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Speaker 1: Call It what It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camil Lunnington,

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Speaker 1: an iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 2: Well, Hello, Hello, Hello.

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Speaker 1: Hello, Call It crew, and welcome to another episode of

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Speaker 1: Short and Sweet.

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Speaker 2: Gray's twentieth anniversary.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so we have a couple of today, not.

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Speaker 2: Just twenty seasons, twenty years, Like there's been twenty years

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Speaker 2: since the first episode aired.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so when the first episode aired, I was so,

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Speaker 1: let me think I was, you were twenty one.

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Speaker 2: I guess twenty one.

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Speaker 1: I could legally drink for the first time.

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Speaker 2: When Grays aired, I was, well, the math would be

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Speaker 2: math at twenty eight and I was a series regular

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Speaker 2: honor show called The Practice, and it was concluding, and

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Speaker 2: I read the pilot for Surgeons and I couldn't go

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Speaker 2: out for it because I think that I was still

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Speaker 2: under contract and I like our show was on the bubble.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, people don't know what the bubble means.

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Speaker 2: We should explain it. It was it was maybe gonna

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Speaker 2: get picked up and maybe not. So I wasn't really

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Speaker 2: a free agent, and so I couldn't really go out

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Speaker 2: for pilot season, which is why I didn't. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: wonder I would have had. I think probably would have

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Speaker 2: auditioned for Izzy back then.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, you would have auditioned for Izzy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. But I remember watching it and I remember being

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Speaker 2: in love with it. I mean love, love, love. I

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Speaker 2: remember the original intro, the music. Who doesn't love that music?

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Speaker 2: And it gave me all the feels. And I also felt,

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Speaker 2: like I've said this many times, it's just it was

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Speaker 2: the perfect Like the hook at the end hooked me

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Speaker 2: real good.

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Speaker 1: You're talking about the Addison Montgomery showing up.

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Speaker 2: And her going to work with her one night stand

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Speaker 2: after she's unceremoniously was like, get the flock out of here, yes,

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Speaker 2: and she's like, oh you're my boss. Yes.

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Speaker 1: And you know what's really funny is I was scrolling

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Speaker 1: on TikTok or something the other day, like literally two

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Speaker 1: days ago, and that scene came up between Ellen and

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Speaker 1: and Patrick, and it's so they're both so good and

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Speaker 1: their chemistry is so excellent, like it's really juicy and

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Speaker 1: they're smiling drill lie Like I was thinking, like, how

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Speaker 1: would I play it? I'm not sure I would have

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Speaker 1: played it the way Ellen played it, and Ellen played

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Speaker 1: it's so perfect. She's like smiling drill lines that like

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Speaker 1: you would smile through when it's just I think they're

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Speaker 1: just feeding off of each other. Yeah, that's all you needed.

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Speaker 1: That scene was all you needed to probably ever pitch

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Speaker 1: any show was because I'm like, I'm in in.

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Speaker 2: Staff and you're right. But both of them so winning

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Speaker 2: in the romantic aspect of it. But Christina was so

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Speaker 2: like the anti hero, right, she just was just like.

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Speaker 1: She's dark and twisty.

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Speaker 2: Yes, since she was cut throat. She was everything that

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Speaker 2: you would be in medical school. Yeah, and it surpassed

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Speaker 2: Er as the longest running medical show.

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Speaker 1: It's insane. But also I have to say, because we're

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Speaker 1: on the heels of news that came out two hours

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Speaker 1: forty minutes ago, I got a phone call from our

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Speaker 1: show and our meg before we got the news, but

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Speaker 1: that it came up publicly that we were picked up.

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Speaker 1: We've actually been picked up for our twenty second season,

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Speaker 1: which is insane because in this day and age, this

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Speaker 1: is it's not an easy task for any series to

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Speaker 1: first off, to have a pilot. ABC has no pilots

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Speaker 1: this year, which is insane.

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Speaker 2: That's crazy.

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Speaker 1: This is huge congratulations, but for a series to go

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Speaker 1: straight to series is like an anomaly. Just doesn't happen

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Speaker 1: like it's so hard. So but yeah, so I'm excited

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Speaker 2: Who Johnny that fall line up.

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a good one.

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Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be a good one. I think

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Speaker 2: we're gonna have some fun things to watch. Okay, so

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Speaker 2: what else is there?

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Speaker 2: when I first came. Yes, he was a ghost isn't.

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Speaker 1: Notorious like ghost sex season, which is the ghost sex.

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Speaker 1: It's goes sex, which referred to in the phantom as

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Speaker 2: For sure. Yes, but I remember, and I was watching

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Speaker 2: stay and watch myself. I uh was talking to Heigel

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Speaker 2: and it was so hard to shoot because you weren't

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Speaker 2: And I kept looking at him and they're like, you

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Speaker 2: can't see him, and I was like, I'm new. I'm

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Speaker 2: just trying to get.

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Speaker 1: Done, like you know, the whole listener responding thing you

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Speaker 2: But like I'm trying. And so yeah, anyways, there's that

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Speaker 2: I did. I did love that. And then I also

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Speaker 2: And truly, no one has left a show with the

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Speaker 2: A lot of times people would leave the show, but

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Speaker 2: you actually wouldn't even know they were leaving. You'd finish

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Speaker 2: like writing handwritten notes, and she had these gifts made

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Speaker 2: for everyone, and she was just she's such an incredible human.

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Speaker 2: But she she might have said in an interview that

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Speaker 1: She has not in the past she has. It's sort

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Speaker 2: Very much, she's amazing.

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Speaker 1: It was another intern that was always on her service,

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Speaker 2: She raises the game. Let's go back a little bit

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Speaker 2: because I actually have something about Sandro that's kind of talking,

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Speaker 2: which is that Sandra and I first met because she

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Speaker 2: But it was she and I and Emmanuel we were

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Speaker 2: of course that she and Emanuel like tried to stay

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Speaker 2: cut out. I say, if we stay close to Capshaw

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Speaker 2: and I fully got cut out. They so they too.

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Speaker 2: That's really funny. You have no idea how many Spielberg

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Speaker 2: movies I've been cut out of?

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Speaker 1: No way, wait, let's just sidebar for a second. Name

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Speaker 1: one other Spielberg movie that you've been cut out of.

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Speaker 2: I was cut out of Shoulder's list list. Yeah, well no.

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Speaker 1: You were, but because I know this story from just

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Speaker 1: So you went over to Europe?

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Speaker 2: Yes, when I was in high school. Yeah. When I

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Speaker 2: I also worked on the movie, you know, wherever I

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Speaker 1: Not there major follow up questions. Okay, if my dad

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Speaker 1: is why? Why be put it back in? Obviously, if

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Speaker 2: Difference between you and I, I was like.

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Speaker 1: Okay, oh my god, you were like, dude, where am I?

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Speaker 1: Seriously wait, I have a question because it's it's a

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Speaker 1: very unique relationship that you guys get to have, right

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Speaker 2: That would truly be like just you saying those words

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Speaker 1: Yes, I'm laughing because like your dad is Steven Spielberg,

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Speaker 1: and you're like, I don't want notes from you know,

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Speaker 2: I know, you know what. Every once in a while,

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Speaker 2: I will send if I if I'm proud of a

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Speaker 2: It's just he's so great to be like, oh is amazing,

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Speaker 2: and like does it's so full force? Just do you

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Speaker 2: know he's just a he's on the sidelines clapping.

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Speaker 1: If you could have been because now I'm going to

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Speaker 1: I wanted to be a Jurassic Park. There's the girl the.

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Speaker 2: Sister brother wanting to was just scary scene when they're

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Speaker 1: But this is what happens.

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Speaker 2: This is what I know.

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Speaker 1: Listen, we're celebrating Gray's part of our history going into

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Speaker 1: season twenty two.

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Speaker 2: Am I going to come back for season twenty two?

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Speaker 2: I think I should.

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Speaker 1: I think you should listen. I can't say what I

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Speaker 1: really we need you.

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Speaker 2: It's called a teaser.

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Speaker 1: I do think that we should get Meg on here.

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Speaker 1: Meg has to come.

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Speaker 2: On and she has to, yeah, spill the beans as.

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Speaker 1: To sort of we got to pick her brain on

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Speaker 2: Yeah we do, Yeah, we do. Okay, all right, I'll

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Speaker 1: Put it on the calendar.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what do you see as the future for the show? You?

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Speaker 2: What do you think about Joe in season twenty two?

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Speaker 2: You're gonna have a little fun you gonna cry, You're

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Speaker 2: gonna are you gonna laugh, you gonna what do you do?

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Speaker 1: Hopefully in season twenty two, she will be a mother

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Speaker 1: to It will be a new part of motherhood to her.

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Speaker 1: She's pregnant with twins. So I think we're gonna really

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Speaker 2: I like it. I like a little spuss.

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Speaker 1: I know, if you could come back and doing would

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Speaker 1: you want to get drunk at Joe's Bar?

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, definitely get drunk at Joe's Bar.

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's always such a fun thing to

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Speaker 2: I know. And when I came back last time, I

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Speaker 1: You need, like the social.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I feel like it would be

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Speaker 2: and then in my streets and my total casual. Just

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Speaker 2: Arizona is stopping by for something. There was something crazy

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Speaker 2: like they really needed me. Yeah, like keep your finger

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Speaker 2: on the bomb type line, you know, like you.

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Speaker 1: No, I love it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I love it.

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Speaker 1: You still if you do the finger on the bomb?

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Speaker 1: Are you still in streets? Like, because I'm imagining some

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Speaker 2: It's New York, It's but it's New York, Arizona. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: or like I think it'd be kind of fun if

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Speaker 2: maybe had like a little flirtation with someone that was there,

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Speaker 2: I was like, hey, a.

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Speaker 1: Little listen, that's what we do on this show. You

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Speaker 1: just got to hit that supply closet and it'll happen.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Oh that's supply closet.

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Speaker 1: It's the elevator.

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Speaker 2: All right, you guys, we are celebrating Happy twentieth Grays.

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Speaker 1: You rock the Tsunatomy, Shonda Rhimes, you.

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Speaker 2: Are all the fields.

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Speaker 1: Oh and you know, credit to Shanda for being.

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Speaker 2: Just wrote it in her pajamas.

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Speaker 1: Yes, is that true?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I got the pilot in our pajamas.

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Speaker 1: Now, I want to know what kind of p js

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Speaker 1: as were I need those pj's. Those are manifesting pj's.

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Speaker 1: I hope the pjss and flying off the shelves. All right,

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Speaker 1: call it through.

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Speaker 2: Let's call it the end of the episode.