1 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 2: It's been a full year of the Carol Markowitz Show. 3 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: I'm so happy and honored for every single listener. I'm 4 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: also so grateful for iHeartRadio and for the Klay, Travis 5 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton podcast network for giving me this opportunity. 6 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: I didn't know if this show would work. It's not 7 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:35,639 Speaker 1: news of the day, it's not about politics. I described 8 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: this podcast as asking political people non political questions, but 9 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: it's also a show about living better, learning from other people, 10 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: taking good advice. And look, some episodes do veer straight 11 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: into politics, and there's just no stopping them. A lot 12 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: of people are just used to offering their opinion on 13 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: what's going on and are confused when someone asks quiteestions 14 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: about them personally. I get that, so we do our 15 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: best to keep things not quite politics focused more personal 16 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 1: here and just to hope for the best. 17 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 2: This show has. 18 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: Been doing a million downloads a quarter, and that is 19 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: just wild to me. I've had people who have been 20 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: listening to me since the first episode and always offer feedback. 21 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 2: I really love that. 22 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: I love hearing from listeners in general. I got a 23 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: bunch of mail recently about the dating episodes. I love 24 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: getting the questions, and I also love getting the advice 25 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: that people want to share. If you've got thoughts, drop 26 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: me an email Carol Markowitz Show at gmail dot com, 27 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: k A R O L M A R K O 28 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: w I c As and Charlie Zas and Zebra Show 29 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. For season two of the show, 30 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: I've switched up some of the questions based on your suggestions. 31 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: I actually swim one question, dropped one question. 32 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 2: And kept one question. 33 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: I'm no longer asking about our largest cultural problem, but 34 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: more widely, what the guest worries about could be personal 35 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: or it could be cultural. I've dropped the question about 36 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:17,399 Speaker 1: whether the guest. 37 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: Feels like they've made it. 38 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: I've added a listener suggested question about advice the guest 39 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: would give their sixteen year old self, and I've kept 40 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: the last question asking the guests to offer a tip 41 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: to improve the lives of our listeners. Lots of people 42 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: said they found that one useful, and I love being useful. 43 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to season two of The Carol 44 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: mark Wood Show with all of you. Thank you so 45 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: much for listening. Coming up next and interview with Buck Sexton, 46 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: my very first repeat guest. He was also my very 47 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: first ever guest on season one of this show. 48 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 2: We'll hear from Buck Sexton after the break. 49 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio. 50 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: My guest today is. 51 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton of the Clay and Book Show, and I'm 52 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: so happy to have you on. 53 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 3: Buck. Thank you, Carol. This is exciting. 54 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 4: I'm very honored that I was the first guest, and 55 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 4: now the end of year one, I am back here. 56 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 3: So at least I got I was able to stay 57 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 3: in the roster. 58 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 2: That's right, I mean a big deal here. 59 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're kicking off season two of The Carol Markowitz 60 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: Show on the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton podcast Network. 61 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 2: So I've loved last year. I've gotten to talk. 62 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: To so many interesting and cool people. I have to 63 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: tell you that your interview was the one that gets 64 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: mentioned to me the most, and we'll get to that later. 65 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: The last question that I ask about better living that 66 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: so many people are like, you know that. 67 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 2: Interview with Buck Sexton. 68 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: Really I started doing what he's ingested And again I'll 69 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: talk about it in a bit, but yeah, people really 70 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: enjoyed that so love having you on. 71 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 2: Also, when you were on a year ago, you were 72 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 2: in newlywed. 73 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: You've now you know, been married for a long, long, 74 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: long time. Any marriage insights for. 75 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 3: Us, I'm starting off, Wow, we're going right into. 76 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 2: It, right into it. Yeah, you know, people love to 77 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 2: hear about this kind of stuff. 78 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 4: You know, Honestly, the nothing about it has been a 79 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 4: surprise to me. And I think part of it is 80 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 4: everybody has the model for what they think marriage will 81 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 4: be like that is just ingrained in their subconscious from 82 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 4: their own parents, right, and you know, maybe there's things 83 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 4: to learn, not just things to emulate. But and I 84 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 4: have parents who have been married now, oh my god, 85 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 4: forty Oh I'm trying to do the mathem I had 86 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 4: forty six years I think, and. 87 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 2: They are the cutest couple ever. 88 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 3: Thank you. Yeah. But my parents are married a long time, 89 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 3: so you know, I had a sense of it from that. 90 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 4: I would say that advice that I would relay that 91 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 4: was pure marriage advice that I got early on, uh, 92 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 4: in the whole process was how you greet people really 93 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 4: does matter and and it is memorable and sets the 94 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 4: sets sort of the tone for the rest of the 95 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 4: conversation or the rest of the interaction. But so you know, 96 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 4: when your spouse comes home or you come home to 97 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 4: your spouse, it's. 98 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 3: A kiss, a hug, a hug, and a kid. 99 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 4: I love you. I'm excited to see you. You know, 100 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 4: what are we doing now? 101 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 3: It's not. 102 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 2: In the couch, it's. 103 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 3: Not coming in on the phone like you know, doing this, 104 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 3: you know whatever. 105 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:50,799 Speaker 4: Like you come in the greeting matters and I find 106 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 4: that that and we and we both have a you know, 107 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 4: we we agreed on that kind of early on, like 108 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 4: when we talked about this, and when we're getting there, 109 00:05:58,200 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 4: we're like, oh, that's really. 110 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 3: Good advice we would give pre kano, which is what 111 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 3: Catholics do. 112 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 2: I don't know if you no, I didn't know. 113 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's sort of a Catholic marriage. 114 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 2: Oh I know about the yeah right, yeah, yeah. 115 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 4: But it's a Catholic marriage preparation opponent, you know that 116 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 4: you're supposed to do before get married to church as 117 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 4: we did. 118 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 3: Uh. 119 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 4: And it was the I was some of the best 120 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 4: advice that we got on it. So that's that's that 121 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 4: was really good. I mean that really has put us 122 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 4: in good stead. And I just I don't know, I 123 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 4: can't just overstate the benefits of it. And by the way, 124 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 4: it's true for friends too. You know, it's true for 125 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 4: other people in your life when you see people. I mean, 126 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 4: you don't have to like hug and kiss everybody. That 127 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 4: wouldn't be appropriate. 128 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 2: But yeah, well great, but I feel like you are. 129 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, now that I'm thinking about it, you're always like heyy, 130 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 1: and you know, very very warm and yeah, I always 131 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: feel very welcomed by Buck Sexton. 132 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 4: Well, my family are huge, like my mom and dad 133 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 4: argue over who's the bigger Carol Markowitz and work, and 134 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 4: so you know, we are very. 135 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 3: Excited in our group of friends. Carol, it's like this, 136 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 3: it's like the celebrity has a soh it's very excited. 137 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 2: It's such a lie, you know. I think that that's 138 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 2: really sweet. 139 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 4: Though. 140 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan of all the Sextons, and actually 141 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to you about you and your 142 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: brother and Clay have started a coffee company and I'm 143 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: actually your coffee company's biggest fan. 144 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 2: I really am. Go ahead and. 145 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 4: Thinking right now, my my manager Craig knew that I 146 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 4: was going to be out in La where I am 147 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 4: right now, which why I kind of, and he knew 148 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 4: that I forgot to bring my own I didn't bring 149 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 4: my coffee bag, but he lives here. 150 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 3: So he has it at his house. So he brought 151 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 3: nice dot com and for me. 152 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 2: You drink it, Yeah, I love it well. 153 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: So I think I've told you this, But I was 154 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: a instant coffee drinker. It was just it was like 155 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: no coffee was good enough to like not just mix 156 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: it in a cup and go on about my day. 157 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: And I have become And you know this is not 158 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: sponsored in any way. I just I love Crockett coffee. 159 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: I think it's so good and just it's worth it 160 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: to me to brew up a part of it and 161 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: get my days started with it. And I've just never 162 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: felt like that about a coffee before. I've been like, 163 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: it's fine, it's fine, but how much better. 164 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 2: Is it than instant? Really? 165 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 4: Mason searched for many months to find the right uh 166 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 4: people to work with on the roasting and the and 167 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 4: the packaging side and sourcing the right beans and using 168 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 4: the right blend. So he'll be very happy to hear 169 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 4: this because I think people just think, like, oh, you just. 170 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 3: Find someone great? Is it? Ording coffee beans? 171 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 4: Because obviously we don't need to have a coffee domestic 172 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 4: coffee production in the US. 173 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 3: And that No, it's actually really hard to find something 174 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 3: good who wants to work with you. 175 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 4: It's that was the first part of the process. So 176 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 4: I'm so glad we got a crack a coffee drinker 177 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 4: that makes it. 178 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 179 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 4: Actually, it's been fascinating after a decade of being in 180 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 4: the radio business as a talent who has to speak 181 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 4: about products, now to be a product owner, i mean 182 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 4: co owned, playing with Mason and trying. 183 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 3: To go at it from the other side of the table. 184 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 4: It's like you see a lot of you know, you 185 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 4: see you obviously see things differently. 186 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 3: You see the challenges of how. 187 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 4: You you want to work with people, but you have 188 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 4: to make sure that it's a business and not you're 189 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 4: not sure hobby. 190 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: But part of it is having an alternative product to 191 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: kind of the mainstream products that we assume we're spending 192 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: all of our cash on leftist causes. 193 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 2: Right, that's definitely what you own in of this. 194 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 3: It's funny. 195 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 4: I'm actually giving I'm doing Bill Maher's show tonight and 196 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 4: I'm giving, I mean in my honorarium. It's you know, 197 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 4: it's not I don't know if I'm like God to 198 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 4: share how much is It's not not a lot of money. 199 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 3: It's a nice lit check. 200 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 4: I'm giving the Tunnel to Towers Foundation. I mean, I 201 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 4: just I think that they do such amazing work. And 202 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:44,599 Speaker 4: it's interesting to me because it's like a lot of 203 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 4: people on the right like that charity, but to me, 204 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 4: it is a totally American charity. It is not it 205 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 4: is not partisan in any way. But it helps heroes, 206 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 4: first responders, military, their families. And ten percent of profit 207 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 4: from Crockett goes to that. So if you want Rocket 208 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 4: to be one hundred million dollar company and be able 209 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 4: to send a. 210 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 3: Ten million dollar check, you know, it's amazing. 211 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 4: From this, we want to be able to send a 212 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 4: ten million dollar check to Tunnel the Towers every year. 213 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 3: I mean, that's like our vision, that's our goal. 214 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: So one of the new questions that I have for 215 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: season two of The Carol Markowitz Show is and you know, 216 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: I had listeners suggest the questions and then I picked 217 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: my favorites. One question we'll stay from last season, but 218 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: two new ones. 219 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 2: The new question is what advice. 220 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: Would you give a sixteen year old Buck Sexton to 221 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: yourself at sixteen. 222 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 4: I think that the best advice that I could give 223 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 4: to a sixteen year old version. 224 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 3: Well, so there's the advice that I would give myself yourself, yourself, 225 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 3: and then there's the advice that. 226 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 4: I would give sort of sixteen year olds or broadly 227 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 4: because I was a little bit unusual for a sixteen 228 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 4: year old and some respects that may not be a 229 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 4: shock to people who are familiar with me or my 230 00:10:56,280 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 4: work or whatever, and maybe it's actually more and more 231 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 4: one and the same. I think it'd be good for 232 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 4: me to hear it, which is, you just want to 233 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 4: take a long view when you're sixteen, along view right 234 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 4: when when you're fifty a long view is like, I 235 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 4: don't know, like years, twenty years, you know, when you're 236 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 4: my age, when you're forties, it's like and I'm middle age. 237 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 4: When you're sixteen, you want to take what you think 238 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 4: of as a long view on just everything, just everything 239 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 4: that you possibly like, just the I think the biggest 240 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 4: track it's so tough. 241 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 2: To do, it's so hard. 242 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: It's seen. 243 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, but no one told me this. The biggest traps 244 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 3: are you? Are you popular at sixteen? Nobody cares? Are 245 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 3: you considered smart at sixteen. Nobody cares. 246 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 4: Are you considered you know, good looking or attractive at sixteen, Like, 247 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 4: no one really cares until you get into your twenties 248 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 4: and thirties. Nothing is going to be meaningful to your life. Really, 249 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 4: I'm talking about personal growth stops right. No one at sixteen. 250 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 3: Is doing the thing that they will look back. 251 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 4: On their life and be like, oh yeah, like that 252 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 4: was really amazing, that was really important. 253 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 3: So I think you can. 254 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 4: I think that I would tell myself, and I would 255 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 4: tell any sixteen year old. Let you know, lay the 256 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 4: pressure off yourself, take the long. 257 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 3: Taking the long view. 258 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 4: I know it seems like it and it does require 259 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 4: discipline and it takes some sort of foresight, but it 260 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 4: also means you're not even going to remember this stuff 261 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 4: when it matters, like you're not really who you are yet, 262 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 4: and so just enjoy each day, try to find what 263 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 4: you like, try to get better. 264 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 3: You know, calculus is bs. It doesn't you know what 265 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 3: I like? 266 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 2: This is, But this is teenagers listening. Do not listen 267 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 2: to him. It's very important. 268 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 3: This is the point. 269 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 4: If you're good at calculus and you want to be 270 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 4: pushing in these directions. 271 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 3: Great then that's an area for you, but you will 272 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 3: not use some of these things in your life. Don't 273 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 3: stress out. I'm not saying don't do your homework. Yeah, 274 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 3: it doesn't matter in any meaning. Kids put so much stress. 275 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 3: I'll give you another one. Go to college where you 276 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 3: want to go to college. 277 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 4: I went to Amherst, which in some of the like 278 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 4: college there's university rankings, which is always like harbar, I 279 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 4: don't know those college rankings. Amherst is routinely for the colleges, 280 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 4: a top five school, so you know it's Williams amhers Swathmore. 281 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 4: Those tend to be the ones that are kind of 282 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 4: always trading off whatever I wish I had gone somewhere else. 283 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 2: Honestly, where do you wish you would? 284 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 3: Oh? Man, I probably would have. 285 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 4: I mean I almost went to like Georgetown was the 286 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 4: one that I was so close to you. 287 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 3: But here's the thing. 288 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:38,439 Speaker 5: I went where I thought it was more academically rigorous 289 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:40,959 Speaker 5: without even really knowing what that meant. Instead of what 290 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 5: do I think I'm going to enjoy my time more 291 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 5: and have and it fits in with my conception of 292 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 5: how I want to spend my day to day as 293 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:50,199 Speaker 5: an eighteen nineteen twenty year old. 294 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 4: Right, So look, I had a good time at Emerson. 295 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 4: I'm not like, I'm not anti christ, sure, but I 296 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 4: just mean, you know, try to take the longer view. 297 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 4: Understand that a lot of things that stress you out 298 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 4: at sixteen are truly meaningless. 299 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 2: Were you hard on yourself when you were sixteen? 300 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 5: Oh? 301 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: Absolutely that this is coming across here, Okay, I just 302 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: I'm not sure kids are hard on themselves anymore. I 303 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: don't know that that's still maybe I don't have a 304 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: six My oldest is fourteen, and noe. 305 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 2: We'll see what happens. 306 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: But they seem like they you know, self esteem is 307 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: really stressed in schools, so they seem like they're doing okay. 308 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 3: I mean, so again I was in school. What I mean, 309 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 3: I was. 310 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 4: We're till going back over thirty years now when I 311 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 4: was sixteen, which makes me feel. 312 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 3: Really old, even though a lot of people watching this 313 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 3: on video at least will be like, he looks like 314 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 3: he's twenty five. You really do, which is fair, which 315 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 3: I don't know what to say. 316 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 4: I mean, it's you know, I'm forty going to be 317 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 4: forty three, but but no, I yes, I look, that's 318 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 4: the thing That's what I mean though, Like there's what 319 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 4: I would give advice to myself versus what I would 320 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 4: sort of how I advise other people who are sixteen 321 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 4: but on the college front, for example, And I tell, 322 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 4: you know, we have some great neighbors Carrie and I 323 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 4: do where we live in U in Miami, and become 324 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 4: very friendly with them, and they've got kids who are, 325 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 4: you know, fourteen sixteen around that age group. And the 326 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 4: parents ask me, because I don't know, some people think 327 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 4: I'm kind of wise. 328 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 3: I know, yeah you are, thank you, and the last 329 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 3: me things. 330 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 4: And I'll just say the When I was in school, 331 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 4: the ranking of your college was like it's either you're 332 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 4: going to go work at Goldman and make millions and 333 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 4: have an awesome life and be you know, just hugging 334 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 4: your beautiful wife on the beach in Southampton and or 335 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 4: not right based on where you're school. 336 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 3: But I've learned as I've. 337 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 4: Become a adult who actually has seen in life is 338 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 4: I mean, I know schmucks who went to Harvard, I 339 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 4: know stars who went the community college. Like it's just 340 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 4: not this or some rough sorting of academic ability that 341 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 4: goes on, but it doesn't really you're seeing this, by 342 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 4: the way, with the huge surge in interest. 343 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 3: In SEC schools. 344 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, don't tell Clay this, But like twenty years ago, 345 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 4: if you were a good student in New York City 346 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 4: or I'm sure La and some of the you know, Boston, 347 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 4: you were not going. 348 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 3: To an SEC S. If you went to an SEC 349 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 3: school from New York again, something went wrong. 350 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 4: Yeah you you you were you were like a you 351 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 4: were like a screw up and wanted to party and 352 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 4: go for the That was totally shifting. And now people 353 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 4: are you know, University of Florida is like an elite school. 354 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's hard to get it. 355 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 2: Sure that we hope our kids go to a University 356 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 2: of Florida, right, No. 357 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 4: But you look at these schools in the Southeast, and 358 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 4: I think that's just a function of people realizing where 359 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 4: do I want to be and get a good education? 360 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 3: Not just like where do I fall on this list? 361 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 3: I mean. 362 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 4: One of the funniest things I could tell anybody who's like, 363 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 4: what am I going to do with my life? 364 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 3: And and uh, you know, how am I know? 365 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 4: Where am I going to go with this is of 366 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 4: the people that I knew who were doing backflips because 367 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 4: they got recruited to go work on Wall. 368 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 3: Street when they were at twenty misery. They hated it, 369 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 3: and almost none of them lasted. 370 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 4: Almost none of them lasted, Like I mean, right, I 371 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 4: mean same things for lawyers. 372 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 1: You know, I know very few people who got into 373 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: like the best law firms that they were so excited 374 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 1: to go to and liked it and stayed it. 375 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 2: Just it almost never happens. 376 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you know, it's funny because I think 377 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 4: back to this and it's so much about where people 378 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 4: can make money at a young Like everyone wants to 379 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 4: have money at a young age. You have to also 380 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 4: remember like money as a young single person is very 381 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 4: you know, you have very different needs in very different stresses. 382 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:36,479 Speaker 4: You know, I enjoyed myself in my twenties and I 383 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 4: was making at the time what would be what was 384 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 4: basically like I think the average American household income, which 385 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 4: was like forty thousand dollars a year, and you know, 386 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 4: in New York City, that wasn't you know, I was 387 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 4: working for the government, It wasn't a lot of money 388 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 4: at all. I had peers who were like, I just 389 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 4: got a fifty thousand dollars pona. So I'm like, I 390 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,719 Speaker 4: just my my all in So, I had friends in 391 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 4: my early twenties who are making and a lot of them, 392 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 4: by the way, not just like two who are making 393 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 4: three four times as much money as me. Right off 394 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 4: the bat, and again to my point about long term 395 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 4: versus short term, nobody cares, right, nobody cares. 396 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 2: You're not like, how much were you making out of college? 397 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 3: Right? 398 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 4: Exactly how much you're making at college doesn't matter. You're 399 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 4: not rich because you made one hundred and sixty grand 400 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 4: one year, and this is your life. The other thing 401 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 4: I've realized is. 402 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 1: Maybe excellent, this is really I love all of this, 403 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: Like oh really, oh I keep going yeah, yeah. 404 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 4: Well as you can say. The other thing I realized 405 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 4: is your goal and achievement. 406 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 3: Obsession is a trap. 407 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 4: A goal or an achievement that you want, whether it's 408 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 4: to be rich or to be you know, to have 409 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 4: a great physique, or to be super successful in your field. 410 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 4: That is a guide for how you set up your day. 411 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 3: To day life. 412 00:18:55,680 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 4: Your day to day life is everything right, meaning you 413 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 4: want to be You want to be in a position 414 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 4: where you are growing, where you are enjoying yourself, where 415 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 4: you are challenged, but you are comfortable enough that you 416 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 4: can have moments of happiness and you want to set 417 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 4: up that matrix of your day to day. 418 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 3: And so this is kind of the. 419 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 4: Anti I want to go work at I was gonna 420 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 4: say Leman Brothers, but that was my day, right. People 421 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 4: are like, I want to go work with Lehman Brothers, 422 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 4: but not so much. Yeah, not so much anymore. But 423 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 4: you know, okay, do you want to spend a few 424 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,239 Speaker 4: years of your twenties? For some people, the answer is yes, 425 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 4: do you want to send a few years of your 426 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 4: twenties legitimately working eighty hours a week gaining By the way, 427 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 4: for the women who did it that I knew they 428 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 4: all of course, because you're at a desk and you're 429 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 4: eating like crap Chinese takeout food, right, like, you know, 430 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 4: gaining weight, not getting sunlight whatever, so you can you know, 431 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 4: make six figures when you're this stuff does not matter. 432 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more from buck Sexton. 433 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 2: And it could all fall apart so fast. I mean, 434 00:19:59,560 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 2: you're leaving. 435 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: An example is a very good one. And we just 436 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: watched inchment, not increment. We watched Telladega Nights with the kids, 437 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: recently and the guy in the movie is like, oh, 438 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: I want to. 439 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 2: Get in on this Halliburton stock. You know, it just 440 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 2: it could all end tomorrow. It doesn't. It doesn't last 441 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 2: forever anyway. And yeah, if you're if. 442 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: You're living that way at twenty two, you're probably doing 443 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 1: it wrong. 444 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 4: It's funny, you know, Carol, there was this, I really 445 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 4: would say a year ago there was this peak of 446 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 4: these podcasts and they're all it's extra points if you 447 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 4: have a British accent, right, that means you're smarter on 448 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 4: a podcast. Sure, right, Like I have a question to 449 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 4: ask you, but they would have you know, they've talked 450 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 4: to all these different uh you know, alpha CEO guys 451 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 4: when they would ask them and this. 452 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 3: Is true, I've heard that. 453 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 4: I mean I could think of like ten different podcasts 454 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 4: where there's been a version of this same moment. You know, 455 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 4: they asked some guy who's made you know, five hundred 456 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 4: million dollars two billion whatever it is, right, like astronomical 457 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 4: riches and run some huge company or built some huge company. 458 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 4: They say like, what what you think about and what 459 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:02,199 Speaker 4: are you most proud of? And you know, you know 460 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,439 Speaker 4: what they all say, family, My family and if they 461 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 4: have a regret, you know what, the regret is. 462 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 2: Not enough time with my family to admit. And so 463 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 2: it's so obvious. 464 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:12,959 Speaker 3: It's so obvious. 465 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 4: And this is great for people to hear though, because 466 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 4: this is what I mean about your day to day. 467 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 4: It's like, you know, I mean, I turned around the 468 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 4: other day and I and I told Carrie, uh, who's 469 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 4: my wife or anyone in the audience who doesn't know. 470 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 3: It was just wonderful, thank you. She is really great. 471 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 3: She's really great. And and I I turned on. We're 472 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 3: talking to something. 473 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 4: I don't even know how it came up, but we 474 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 4: found it like some friend of mine or some guy 475 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 4: I know, like just that you know, just actually is 476 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 4: like a friend of a friend. And we were like, well, 477 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 4: like that guy's you know, guys, I didn't know he 478 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 4: sold this company for like three hundred million dollars and 479 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 4: and you know he's got all these fancy cars and 480 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 4: all these houses and everything. 481 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 3: And I turned around. 482 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 4: It's like, honestly, if I swear to you, if we 483 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 4: had a billion dollars tomorrow, I wouldn't get a different car. 484 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 3: Happy with the car we live in. Yeah, I wouldn't. 485 00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 3: I would like there's like, what there is a level where. 486 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, diminished and returns. 487 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 3: So you have what you need. 488 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 4: And I mean to me, it's just kind of funny 489 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 4: when I hear people that have and because because again 490 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 4: this is about like the goal and the short term 491 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 4: long term. Yeah, you have this idea that oh, if 492 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 4: I get to and this is what I mean by 493 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 4: the goal, can become the enemy of what matters, which 494 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 4: is your day to day life. I'm going to mortgage 495 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 4: my twenties, thirties, and maybe even my forties so that 496 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,959 Speaker 4: I can be a tech a tech billionaire. 497 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 3: Right Like, let's say that's your mindset. 498 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 4: And I don't know, I've come across a lot of 499 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 4: younger people who that's clearly and even more than that, 500 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 4: by the way, it's I want to be a YouTube star. 501 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's the definitely the hot thing right now. 502 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 3: Ye I want to make thirty three. 503 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 4: Well, okay, you know you're going to spend a lot 504 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 4: of time making content. Do you like making content? You're 505 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 4: going to have people that don't like what you're doing. 506 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 4: It's going to be frustrating, it's going to take years. 507 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 4: You know, You're you're also taking a risk of not 508 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 4: of not doing other things, learning other things that you 509 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 4: have to take a I think a broad spectrum view 510 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 4: of what you're doing. But if that makes you miserable, 511 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,360 Speaker 4: even if you wake up at forty or forty five 512 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 4: and now you do have whatever it is, like you 513 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 4: do have the million dollars of stock in. 514 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 2: The Lamborghini, you know, or you have the. 515 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 4: Ten million followers on YouTube or something. Were you happy 516 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 4: to get there? 517 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 2: Right? 518 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 3: Was it? Happiness? Is? 519 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 2: This is all so deep too? 520 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 1: Like yeah, this is you know, I think that you 521 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 1: might not be and I think people think that they automatically. 522 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 3: Will be yes. 523 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 4: This, But this is what I mean by people create 524 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 4: I'll be happy when you know people call it. I 525 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 4: think people call like if then thinking or when if 526 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 4: thinking or whatever. It's you know, if I get this, 527 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 4: everything will be worth it. Yeah, if I achieve the 528 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 4: following thing, all the sacrifices. Look to get places, you 529 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 4: have to make sacrifices. Like one of the things I 530 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 4: tell people media now is if I knew how hard 531 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 4: it would be to get to a place where I 532 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 4: am happy and comfortable with my media career when I 533 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 4: started it, I probably would have gone and taken a 534 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 4: job like McKenzie or something, you know what I mean. 535 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 4: Like I actually got on this like escalator. It was 536 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 4: kind of like once you're on it. 537 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 3: You're in it. 538 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 4: You just kept going, but I knew what it was 539 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 4: actually going to require, you know. I mean, I've managed 540 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 4: to make a career in conservative media. I've never been 541 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 4: paid a dollar by Fox News in my life. 542 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 3: Now that's fine, pretty unusual, that's fine. But you know, 543 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,479 Speaker 3: but I just bring up, like if you told me 544 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 3: that when. 545 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 4: I started, I forget it right, I'm never going to 546 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 4: make a dollar from Fox every Like, they're never going 547 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 4: to literally pay me. It's not a contributor or anything. 548 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 4: I can't make a living doing this. Well it turns 549 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 4: out I can. But you know, this is what I 550 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 4: mean by I liked even when stuff was crappy and 551 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 4: I was doing a lot for free, this game that 552 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 4: you and I are in, this which I actually think 553 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 4: is a kind of a thing. 554 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 3: This thing that we do. I like it is. 555 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 4: When I was getting abused at CNN on air, not 556 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 4: because you know, they're so good at arguing, but because 557 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 4: you know, it's just like ah, like chickens, you know. 558 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 3: Squawking at you all at once. It's a mess. I 559 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 3: was like, yeah, but I like, this is the fight 560 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 3: I want to be in, you know what I mean? 561 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 4: And that yeah, and that's really And it wasn't if 562 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 4: I take this abuse one day, I'll have my own 563 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 4: show at CNN or something. It was just like I 564 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 4: like this right now, and I think I'm good at it, 565 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 4: and so I'm gonna. 566 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 3: Keep doing it. 567 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 2: Totally. 568 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 3: I think that for younger people thinking about what they 569 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 3: want to. 570 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 4: Do, do that it's not just people say pursue your passion. 571 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no no, no, Like there are lots 572 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 3: of things. 573 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 4: There was a time when I was passionate about video games, 574 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 4: but like how to make a living playing video games? 575 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: Maybe, although now you never know, really nobody would watch 576 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 1: you play video games. 577 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 2: That's like a money making thing now. 578 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 4: So well yeah, so that's my My thing is is 579 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 4: if if you really want to want to be where 580 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 4: you want to be in life, and I see this 581 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 4: across all my friends, all my colleagues. 582 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 3: What is your day to day? You know, do you 583 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 3: enjoy it? Do you find it productive? Do you find 584 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 3: it meaningful? 585 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 2: So the second question of my at one point, no, no, 586 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 2: that was one question. Yeah, like we got to get 587 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 2: to like that's right. 588 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: My second, my second new question is what do you 589 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,120 Speaker 1: worry about? Which I think goes well with this because 590 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: you know, I think that you have to worry about something, 591 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: and so what is it you. 592 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 3: Mean as an individual or as an individual? 593 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 1: What does what does books Sexton worry about? 594 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 2: And it could be anything. 595 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: My question last season was what do you think is 596 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 1: our largest cultural problem? 597 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 2: So it could be cultural or it could be you know, 598 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 2: I don't know. 599 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: I I definitely worry about my kids or different different 600 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 1: things on different days. 601 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 4: But I I worry about, uh, what I call mass delusion. 602 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 4: So I worry about groups of people becoming deeply convinced 603 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 4: of things and mobile eyes behind things that are not 604 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 4: only untrue, but often anti true or sort of divorced 605 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 4: from reality. I think that is the biggest threat that 606 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 4: human beings face. I think that is the biggest challenge 607 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 4: that we have, and I mean I could go through. 608 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 4: I mean I think all totalitarianisms, for example, are founded 609 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 4: on delusional principles of universal control and absolute power, which 610 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 4: is just it's not this is contrary to human nature, 611 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 4: it's contrary to existence. Right, So all of the worst 612 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 4: things involve large groups becoming certain that something is true 613 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,479 Speaker 4: when it is untrue. COVID obviously is a huge example 614 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:42,719 Speaker 4: of that. 615 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I think we just had a 616 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 1: real good example of that not too long ago. 617 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 4: And I think that this is what really concerns me 618 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 4: because also the ability to shape perception now at scale, 619 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 4: meaning you know, hundreds of me millions. 620 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 3: Of people you couldn't even you know. Yeah, there's like 621 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 3: the printing press. 622 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 4: And then there's radio, and then there's these ways that 623 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 4: mass media have developed over the last hundred years. But 624 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 4: what we're in now is we alternate an alternate reality 625 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 4: of what is public consensus can be constructed very rapidly, 626 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 4: and by the time people even realize what's going on. 627 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 4: I think enormous damage can be done. I mean, I 628 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 4: do think COVID was, yeah, a perfect example of that, 629 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:31,919 Speaker 4: but I think there are other examples of it too. 630 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 4: I mean, I think that the narrative that Donald Trump 631 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 4: is is hitler while we're to it because it's so stupid. 632 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 4: This is really this is really bad. This is it's 633 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 4: bad because there are people who believe this stuff, and 634 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 4: they that then they're kind of numb to all the 635 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 4: other arguments, facts, data and discussion that I think can 636 00:28:58,240 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 4: lead to. 637 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: We end up arguing, you know, let's get rid of 638 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: the First Amendment because of what if you say something 639 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: positive about Donald Trump on social media? You know, they 640 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: end up having to go down this rabbit hole where 641 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: it has to support their delusion, and. 642 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 2: That affects all of us. 643 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 4: So yeah, and I think we were also all kind 644 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 4: of becoming. I mean I used to love I mean, 645 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 4: you know I did growing up. I read a lot, 646 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 4: but I watched a lot of particularly like HBO and 647 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 4: like I love watching all. I watched all these action 648 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 4: movies that were like made with small budgets and were 649 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 4: not good, you know, like I was a Dolph Lungdren fan. 650 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 3: And I don't mean Rocky four. 651 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 4: I mean it's tougher, Like nobody saw is that the 652 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 4: Russian showed out? 653 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 3: Sweet? 654 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 2: No he plays the Russian? 655 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, that's all I mean. 656 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 2: I don't know. 657 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, that is a thing that we used to watch 658 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 4: in these bad movies where it's like a human but 659 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 4: has like a chip in the brain and maybe some 660 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 4: cataolic thing. And Terminator is obviously the biggest example of this. 661 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 4: But like cybworks is a big thing in the eighties 662 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 4: and nineties. We're all becoming these kind of human machine 663 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 4: hybrids where are like, we have access to endless information, 664 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 4: but we're also constantly being influenced by what's really almost 665 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 4: a second brain. Like you've never you know before, if 666 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 4: you wanted to find out a fact, if you aren't 667 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 4: go to encyclopedia what are your Encyclopedia Britannica and like, oh, 668 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 4: like is that really? 669 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 3: Like is the toadsloth really? 670 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 4: But you know it's amazing on the one hand, but 671 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 4: on the other hand that you have all this information 672 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 4: access but you also are so reliant on these machines 673 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 4: now that they are pross, they are creating our version 674 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:36,959 Speaker 4: of reality. 675 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: In ways when somebody's like googled something and then they're 676 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: like read a book, you know, you just know they 677 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: just learned this. 678 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 2: Information five seconds ago. 679 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: Like when you see Twitter, like everybody become you know, 680 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: experts on whatever the latest thing is, like, oh, it's it, 681 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: I've always known about this, this was like this and 682 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: the fact that you believe that is evidence that you're stupid. 683 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: We see that all the time, and that is like 684 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: there they're part they think that that's part of them, 685 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: their Google process is. 686 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 2: The information that they have. 687 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 3: It's also amazing. I went to a bookstore here in 688 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 3: La looking for. 689 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 4: A hard to find book on. 690 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 3: Ivan Ory von Pavlov for yeah right now. 691 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 4: But anyway, they said they had it, they actually didn't 692 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 4: because they it was so rare, like they hadn't even 693 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 4: updated that the one copy they had a long time 694 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 4: ago was gone. So I'm like, of course, right, like 695 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 4: you know, I'm like, oh, I found that, but I 696 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 4: went in there was it was interesting. I'm a big 697 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 4: fan of tactile books, like physical hard time. I think 698 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 4: everyone should have them in their home. I think children 699 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 4: should grow up reading still books, not kindles. Not I read, 700 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 4: that's fine, but you should have books should be a 701 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 4: part of it. There is something about a physical It 702 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 4: is an unbeatable technology for what it is in some ways, 703 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 4: having having books occupy physical space, having you know, the 704 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 4: cover design and how in your hands, and that experience 705 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 4: of I am reading and it's not just screens is 706 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 4: all fast screens is something else. 707 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 3: I think it's really important. 708 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 4: But it was funny being in this bookstore because I mean, 709 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 4: I am in La, to be fair, I look around. 710 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 3: I'm like I'm looking at all these books. I'm like, has 711 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 3: a white guy ever written a book? Is there a 712 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 3: white male who has written a book? 713 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 4: Because walking around this store, I don't think so that's 714 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 4: interesting to me. 715 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the Pavlov book obviously was written by my guy, 716 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: but they don't have it anymore. 717 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 3: Nope, Yeah, there was that. 718 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 1: So the last time you were on, I end all 719 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: my shows with the question of leave my listeners with 720 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: the tip for them to improve their lives, and your 721 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: tip it wasn't that a groundbreaking tip. Sorry to say that, 722 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: but it. 723 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 2: Was read before bed. I think that. I mean I 724 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 2: always read before bed. 725 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: I kind of fell off of that a little bit 726 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: when I got married, but I'm trying. 727 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 2: I'm trying to get back to not scrolling before bed. 728 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: People wrote to me and said that it really did 729 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: change things for them, just the decision to read before 730 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: bed instead. 731 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 2: Of getting on your phone made a difference. So do 732 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 2: you have a new tip for us? 733 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: You want to end us with a new tip or 734 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: do you want to reinforce the last one? 735 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 4: Well, I mean I have to double down on the 736 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 4: read before bed is a fabulous and that actually I do. 737 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 4: That's where actually the Kindle for me because if you 738 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 4: want to have the low light setting and everything, that's 739 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 4: you know. 740 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 3: So there's a place. I love my Kindle. I'm not 741 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 3: like anti it, but I just also believe in. 742 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 4: Physical books, and I believe that people should have a 743 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 4: bookshelf in the home and that there should be books 744 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 4: that they have both want to read and have read 745 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 4: that are on that shelf, and the children should be 746 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 4: familiar with it. I did grow up surrounded by books 747 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 4: and bookshelves in New York, so I think that was interesting. 748 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 4: It worked well for me, So I'll tell you this one. Actually, man, 749 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 4: I'm trying to pick I have a few. 750 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 3: I can't believe that. 751 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 4: No. 752 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 1: I know, we were like it's like fifteen minutes over it, 753 00:33:58,560 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: but that's. 754 00:33:58,880 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 2: Okay, that's okay. 755 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 4: No one really ever asked me my opinion on anything, 756 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 4: so this is such a new theck. 757 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 3: It's always just like, tell us what's going on in 758 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 3: the news. 759 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 1: I to say that I get a lot of that 760 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: here because I get people on and they're like ready 761 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: to talk about Donald Trump or something, and then I'm like, so, 762 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,359 Speaker 1: you know, what kind of advice do you have for people? 763 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 2: And they're like, wait, me, what you know. 764 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,800 Speaker 4: Well, it's funny because I I would actually love to 765 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 4: like both share and exchange insights with people out there 766 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:24,720 Speaker 4: more broadly. 767 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 3: But what I find is I actually get. 768 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 4: People who are who are almost like taken aback by, 769 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 4: like excuse me, like we how is Trump going to 770 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 4: beat calm on this election? 771 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 3: Like stay focused? But but won't I'm not allowed with some. 772 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 1: People come back anytime and you share all the thoughts 773 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: that you have, all. 774 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 4: Right, So can I kind of kind of cheat and 775 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 4: give you a variant of the one I gave you 776 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,359 Speaker 4: last year and then a totally new one, So I'm 777 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 4: kind of it's. 778 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 2: Your podcast network. You do whatever you want. 779 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 3: That's very kind of you, all right. 780 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,359 Speaker 4: So the one thing I would tack on because this 781 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,320 Speaker 4: gets me heat and I'm not even going to explain, 782 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:06,720 Speaker 4: get the TV out of your bedroom. Get the TV 783 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 4: out of your bedroom. I'm not anti TV. I love 784 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,800 Speaker 4: great shows, that's fine. Get it out of your bedroom. 785 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 3: People, good old like you're a newly wed, that's what 786 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 3: I'm like, Well, you know what I mean, Yeah, you 787 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 3: know what I mean, But what you mean get the 788 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 3: TV out of your bedroom? Full stop. Don't argue with me, 789 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 3: just do it. Move it to another room, don't have 790 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:27,240 Speaker 3: a TV in your bedroom. 791 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,839 Speaker 4: But the advice piece that I will give because I'm 792 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,240 Speaker 4: tacking that onto part one. 793 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 3: Of the reason for you to bed. Uh. And you're 794 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 3: gonna disagree with me on this. 795 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,919 Speaker 4: When Carol that you're gonna you're I might, I might 796 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,320 Speaker 4: trigger Carol Markowitz on her own. 797 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:49,240 Speaker 3: Comfortable footwear. It is, I mean, life changing. 798 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 4: I I do not understand men and women wearing shoes 799 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 4: that hurt their feet. 800 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,320 Speaker 3: It SAPs your energy, It puts you in a bad mood. 801 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 4: It over the long term, it causes all kinds of 802 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 4: foot distortions. 803 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 2: Have you discussed this with Jesse Kelly. He's super into me. 804 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 3: I love. Yeah, this is where he is so wrong. 805 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 3: He is he is like, yeah, a whole other stratosphere 806 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:16,919 Speaker 3: of wrong. 807 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: He got into my car and I had flats like 808 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 1: in the passengers, you know, on the floor of the 809 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,879 Speaker 1: passenger seat, and he was like flats and I was like, no, no. 810 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 2: Jesse, only for driving because I love heels. I love 811 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 2: hot shoes. I hear you, I really do. 812 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 1: I wear sneakers sometimes running around, you know, during the 813 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 1: day with my kids and stuff. 814 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:37,400 Speaker 2: But for nights out. 815 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 1: I love hot shoes and you. 816 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 2: Cannot stop me. 817 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 4: So see, all right, I can't convince Carol. But to 818 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 4: the rest of listing, there there are happy mediums. You 819 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 4: want to have comfortable feet the uh. I mean, one 820 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,439 Speaker 4: one of my experiences in New York that I lived 821 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 4: through so many times before I got married was I'd 822 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 4: be on a date and it was. 823 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 3: Going, well, you know, you're a dinner. 824 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 4: Usually you throw the standard in New York as your dinner, 825 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 4: and then you get drinks affords because you could walk 826 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 4: across the street or you know, it's New York right there. 827 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 3: I mean, I know you know this, but for people listening, uh, 828 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 3: and they'd be like, like. 829 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 4: We take an axe, and I'd be like, we're gonna 830 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 4: go three blocks, Like we're gonna be three. 831 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: Blocks, okay, fair, you know. But I also I have 832 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 1: like shoes that I go out in that I. 833 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 2: Know are going to be sitting shoes. I'm not walking 834 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 2: into three blocks. I'm not walking anywhere. 835 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,840 Speaker 1: I'm walking from the car to dinner where I'll be sitting, 836 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 1: and then I'll get back in the car when I 837 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 1: know I have to walk a little bit. I have 838 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: comfortable heels that I could walk in and I have, 839 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 1: and you know, I, yes, I reject your whole premise here. 840 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 3: But you would. I knew she would. 841 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 4: She has an amazing shoe collection, and I get it, 842 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:48,799 Speaker 4: and I'm you know, and I know, especially with some 843 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 4: of the women, but I mean, I see women walking 844 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 4: around on these like stilts that they have and I 845 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 4: see it and I'm like, I mean, look, I know 846 00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 4: it looks nice is and Eller gets to it. But okay, fine, 847 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,279 Speaker 4: if you're at like a you know, if you're like 848 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 4: a block tie gala or a wedding or something, I 849 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,799 Speaker 4: get it. But for me, fancy shoes is the way 850 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 4: I feel about neck ties only if I absolutely have. 851 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 1: To only silly, but no shoes or you know, we're 852 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,720 Speaker 1: gonna bring We're gonna bring Jesse Kelly on to debate 853 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:18,760 Speaker 1: this with you, and. 854 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 4: Tell you tell that let lanky son of a gun 855 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 4: anytime he wants to have the shoe throwdown on here. 856 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 1: He's Buck Sexton, Clay Travis and Buck Section show. Check 857 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 1: them out every day. 858 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 2: They're so amazing. You're awesome. 859 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 1: Buck, Thank you so much for having for coming on, 860 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 1: for having this show on your network. 861 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 2: I really appreciate you. 862 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,399 Speaker 3: Rats on the podcast. By the way, it is doing 863 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:42,479 Speaker 3: great and I know. 864 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 2: You see my internal numbers. 865 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 3: Congratulations, A lot of people listen. Very good stuff. 866 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 1: Thank you, Buck, thank you, thanks so much for joining 867 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,319 Speaker 1: us on the Carol Marcowitch Show. Subscribe wherever you get 868 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 1: your podcasts.