1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: Oh time, Steve Tasper text text text time, you'll be 2 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: ready by now? Right now? Okay, we'll give you no 3 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: Friday Saturday. Get ready, Good afternoon, getting ready for Baltimore. 4 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: Now the cuts are over, the roster is basically set. 5 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: We know what the starting quarterback is, and we can 6 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: begin to turn our attention to the opener of the 7 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens and the Buffalo Bills. Open it up Sunday, 8 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 1: one o'clock at MT Bank Stadium in Baltimore. Good afternoon, 9 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 1: John Murphy, Steve Tasker, Welcome to One Bill's Live. Welcome 10 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:43,639 Speaker 1: to you, Steve t ask Her to One Bill's Live. 11 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: Thank you. It's good to be back because ended body 12 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: collid to health. It's good to be back. Yeah, late 13 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: night last night. Yeah, you're up in Hamilton. How did 14 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: the TIS six thirty kick? And I was struggling to 15 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: get there because of you know, the show and some 16 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: other stuff we had to do here to wind up. 17 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: So I skid it into a stop at like six 18 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: or four. I missed the first series, but it was 19 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: it was good though. Got in uh my favorite player. 20 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 1: It's fifty six yard touchdown in the h opening drives. 21 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: I think it's a second drive that of course would 22 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: be Luke task or how many touchdowns for him this year? Now, dude, 23 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't remember. Yeah, no, no, no, 24 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: but he's got he had He had eight for one 25 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: forty three last night and a touchdown. They won forty 26 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: two twenty eight over the Toronto organized did the tiber 27 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: Tiger Cats. Now they got a home and home. It's 28 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: like a hockey thing up there. They played at home. 29 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 1: The Hamilton Tiger Cats were at home against the Argos 30 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: last night. Now they go on the road Saturday against 31 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: the Argos over in BMO Field. Yeah. Yeah, it's like 32 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: a home like hockey. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, So they 33 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: play him again and little listen, the tie Cats played 34 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: good last night. The Toronto was really struggling offensively. If 35 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: the tie Cats didn't have one series where they had 36 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: literally had five penalties in a road gave him first 37 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: downs and then they had a fumble recovery for one 38 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: hundred and five yard touchdown return against him, and they 39 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: turned it over on an interception inside their fifteen yard line. 40 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: Those three plays or that series and those two plays 41 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: two turnovers, I mean they would they would have beaten 42 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,679 Speaker 1: him by four touchdowns. Maybe, so they were tight. Cats 43 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: are playing good when they can get out of their 44 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: own way and when the Argos took advantage of some 45 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: things actually to take a twenty eight twenty one lead 46 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: late in the third quarter. So what's it like to 47 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: watch his Uh? I mean, you know an awful lot 48 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: about the game you played out Bausly. What's it like 49 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 1: to watch as a father to watch your son Luke 50 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: out there? You know, it's interesting. I saw him make 51 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: a few bunch of catches last night. I had like 52 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: eight of them, and I can tell the ones when 53 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: he gets up and he feel felt the time he 54 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: felt it, you know, and he got tackled, said yeah 55 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: he felt that on the way he walks or the 56 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 1: way he gets up. Yeah, like this body language, I 57 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: could tell he's doing good though. Came out of it. 58 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: Okay last night straight. Now, he's about to turn twenty eight. Okay, 59 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: about to turn twenty eight. Okay, how many more years 60 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,679 Speaker 1: are you gonna play? This is sixth year, so you know, 61 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: I mean, it's yeah, I don't I think he still 62 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: likes it. Uh, And it's uh. He's in the first 63 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: year of a two year deal. So he'll he'll finish 64 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: this one out, I'm sure, and tell us this the 65 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 1: scene there, you were there, you shot up there after 66 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: the show yesterday, got there and you said, missed one series. 67 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: But you're surrounded by family, right. How many people did 68 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:26,239 Speaker 1: Luke Kevin the stands? Twelve? Probably me, my wife and son, 69 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: one of our sons, his brother. And then my brother 70 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 1: was up for the Labor Day Classic, and it's his 71 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: best buddy from Kansas. Yeah. And then they have a 72 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: buddy who's actually a professor at one of the local 73 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: universities here in town, well not town, but around this area. 74 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: And then my son's in laws, his wife and son, 75 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: his brother in law. So yeah, we had and a 76 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: friend of theirs, a friend of their family must be. Yeah. 77 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: And it was a beautiful night, too hot and Muggie warm, 78 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: but it was a six thirty kick so it wasn't bad. 79 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: And you know all the traditions up there, and and 80 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: even Andrew Peters the other day walking out of here, 81 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: did they Yeah, Yeah, I got nuts and it's not 82 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: the time Zowski osky Wawa, Holy mac and on tigers 83 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: eat them raw and they do it big time up there. 84 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 1: This how to kick off every every game is a 85 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: song or just a chance. You know, it's this chant 86 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: and it's loud and rock. Anybody know what that's all about? 87 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: What I don't. I don't know the history behind it, 88 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 1: but it's tradition. I can tell your unlike any other sound. 89 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: I get home till one am. It's the best trip 90 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 1: across the bridge we've had in a while though. There 91 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: was like two cars ahead of me. None I was 92 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: like zipped right through. Yeah, last night we did Peace Bridge, 93 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: but that's a good night. It was a great night. 94 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: Was a big family event. And then we go to 95 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: one of their establishments up there that has a deal 96 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 1: with the tie Cats and we had a table for 97 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: twelve or fourteen and we were sitting on It was 98 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: nice sexually. We didn't get out of there till late, 99 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: but it was a good drive, very easy, easy and 100 00:04:56,040 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: easy out. Parking. Is a little different area in at 101 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: tim Horton Field, and it is new era. Wait, well, 102 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: it's in a new era's in and it is a 103 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: little bit similar because it's in a neighborhood. There's houses 104 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: right across the street on all four sides virtually to 105 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: the stadium. It's in a neighborhood in Hamilton's so you 106 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: gotta you're parking on lawns, right. So I'm driving up 107 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: there before I drive my brother or my older brother 108 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: who's up there, and he's he thinks he's gonna wire 109 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 1: me because he's like, oh, he's you know, he goes 110 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: to one game a year, right, and so he thinks 111 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: he knows. So he goes, hey, I got your parking space. 112 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: I paid the guy. You're right in the you're right 113 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: on this. He named the street. And I didn't know 114 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: the streets up there. I just know what the stating 115 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,119 Speaker 1: looks like. I said, send me a picture or whatever 116 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: and and I'll get in there. So i'd pull in 117 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: there and they're sure enough there's a spot for me, 118 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: and they're kind of garden it and uh, I back 119 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 1: in and I go to my my guy paid for 120 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: this already goes on, who's your guy? What are you 121 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: talking about? Knowing? So it was so I paid the 122 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 1: guy the money and it wasn't the same. It was 123 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: like the same he described it to me. And I 124 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: parked in the wrong spot, so we both had to 125 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: bate twenty bucks for one spot. So you know, but 126 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: the tickets were free. No, the tickets are not free. 127 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: What about the tailgating? Is there a tailgate party seeing 128 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 1: up there? I've never been there early enough to know, 129 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: but there is a lot of pregame activities outside of 130 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: this big pavilion, outside of the Tim Hortons fields. It 131 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: is pretty nice. It's a nice little atmosphere. They got 132 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: a nice game day feel to it, it really does. 133 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 1: And the Tikat's record pretty good, winning five and five 134 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: right now and there. This was the first game of 135 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: the second half of the season. They played eighteen games. 136 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: It was the tenth game, so they're in the second half. Now, 137 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: what a great start to your week. And you got 138 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: a game coming up at the end of the week 139 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 1: too that we'll get your attention, right, Bills and Ravens do. Yeah, 140 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: it'll be fun. And that's this game. I just started 141 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: getting all my emails and all your notifications from CBS 142 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: about the Ravens and the Bills and the scouting reports 143 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: and you know, the Pro Football Focus package they put out. 144 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: And I dove into some Ravens background last night as well, 145 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: and came away and pressed, you know, I really did 146 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: steve nine wins last year. As we know, they just 147 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: barely the playoffs and that Andy Dalton pass um. You 148 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 1: know Flacco. It's it's interesting. Flacco had a rough first 149 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 1: half of the season. He came around in the second half, right, 150 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: He was seven and two down the stretch final nine 151 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: games of the season. He played much better second half 152 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: of the season. So as much as were I was 153 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: at least going into this week thinking, well, Joe Flacco 154 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: is not the Joe Flacco super Bowl super Bowl Joe Flacco. 155 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: You know what, by the second half of a half 156 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: season he was. He was back kind of. They went 157 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: out and got a ton of wide receivers, three of them. Anyway, 158 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna play strong defense. Thirty four takeaways a year ago, 159 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: more than anybody in the NFL led the league, and 160 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: takeaway differential, turnover differential last year. Um, look, I'm not 161 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: saying they're not super Bowl quality, but they're good. You 162 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: never won in their home an opening day. Yeah, you 163 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: never want to turn it over, but you can't turn 164 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: it over against the Ravens. They win game. They're much 165 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: like the Buffalo Bills in the first half of last season. 166 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: When they get turnovers, they're gonna win the game. You 167 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: look at you know, the guys. They drafted the Ravens. 168 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: They and here's their draft. A ton of draft picks. 169 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: That a quarter that, a quarterback, two offensive tackles, two 170 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: tight ends, two wide receivers, and then there were two corners, 171 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: a defensive end in a safety. I mean they picked 172 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: a lot of offensive players, two tackles, two wide receivers, 173 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: and two tight ends. And the two tight ends we're 174 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: in the top four picks of the draft. One tight 175 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: end is hurt right, not gonna play, but first rounder. 176 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: But here's the thing too, they shut out three opponents 177 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: last year. Three. Yeah, more than anybody else in the 178 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: NFL last year. Look, I'm not saying again, I'm not 179 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: saying they're super Bowl caliber team, but they're a pretty 180 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:36,959 Speaker 1: good team and it's a pretty tough test. And I 181 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: guess I knew that going into the year, but it 182 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: was kind of reinforced last night when I started diving 183 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: into some homework about the Baltimore I've always been intrigued 184 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: by Baltimore because they got Joe Flacco and he won 185 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl for him and he's he can really 186 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: throw the football. I've always been impressed with his ability 187 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 1: to throw the ball accurately, and get rid of it. 188 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: And he's always been criticized in Baltimore for not being 189 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: I don't know, good enough, for not throwing it well. Uh, 190 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: and I've seen him makes throws that are just unbelievable throws. 191 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: I think he's really good and he's he's really been criticizing. 192 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: Of course, last year he was really crushed. But this 193 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: is a team it's been twenty one years since they 194 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: sent any quarterback to the Pro Bowl from Baltimore. Vinny 195 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: Testaverity was their last quarterback to go to the Pro Bowl. 196 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: And then in the streak is the Dolphins. It's been 197 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: twenty two years since they sent a quarterback and that 198 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: was Marino and the Bears. Jim McMahon was their last 199 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: quarterback in the Pro Bowl. And now the you got 200 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: a quarterback that won a Super Bowl. He didn't go 201 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,719 Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl that year. That's crazy. He was 202 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: MVP in the Super Bowl. Yeah, they're they're good, They're Yeah, 203 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: they've got some and uh, Terrell Suggs still playing at 204 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: a high level for them. Uh, at least he was 205 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: at the end of last year and looks to have him, 206 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: you know, be coming back this year for his fourteenth 207 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 1: year and playing really well. So yeah, they're they're a team. 208 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: And I've got a lot of respect for John Harbaugh 209 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: too as a head coach. I've dealt with a lot 210 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: of guys and I told you this the other day, 211 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 1: got a casual but but really buttoned up attitude over there. 212 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 1: The expectations in the bar are really set high in 213 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: their culture, and it's served him well. I think they're looking, 214 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: you know, they're looking to get back to the playoffs 215 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: at least this year, looking to you know, probably challenge 216 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: the Steelers in that division. And I'm sure they're looking 217 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: at this game and saying, Okay, we can get Baltimore 218 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: week one and they might be able. We can get 219 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: Buffalo in week one, and we'll see if it happens 220 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: that way. On our show today, we'll talk about this game, 221 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: get you set up for this game, and talk about 222 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: what's going on around the NFL. We have Nathan Peterman 223 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: coming in the studio at two o'clock today, just named 224 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: as the starting quarterback for the Bills. He'll join us 225 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: here today. Now that the hubbub has died down a 226 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: little bit. Nathan Peterman gonna be in studio with us 227 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: at two on his day off. We appreciate that. Although 228 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: I see a lot of players in on their days 229 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: off today, on their day off today, we're getting workouts in. 230 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: But Nathan Peterman a lot to talk about, and we 231 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,599 Speaker 1: got we gotta talk to him a little bit about that. 232 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to talking to Nathan. I love talking 233 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: to this kid, and I love his approach. I remember 234 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: thinking last year he is mature beyond his years. You know, 235 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: he's twenty four years old, but you're talking. We'll talk 236 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: to him today and you'll think, Wow, that's like a 237 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: thirty year old man. I appreciate that about him, and 238 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to getting his sense of this game, 239 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 1: what it means to be the opening day starter for 240 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: the Bills. Right. We went through the names yesterday of 241 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: who started off kickoff Sunday for the Bills since Jim 242 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: Kelly left. There's a lot of them. Would I say 243 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: ten of them? He's number ten. But really looking forward 244 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: to talking to Nathan. At two o'clock today, coming up 245 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: at the bottom of the sour twelve thirty Peter King 246 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: from NBC Sports. He's got this new Football Morning in 247 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: America website up there now, and we'll talk with Peter 248 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 1: King about his observation on the Bills and the rest 249 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 1: of the NFL, and coming up at one o'clock, we 250 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 1: kind of have to backtrack. We never got to it 251 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 1: yesterday because of the Peterman news, but it was huge 252 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: over the weekend, the trade of Khalil Mack from the 253 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: Raiders to the Bears. And we'll talk with Vic Tafer, 254 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: who covers the Oakland Raiders for the athletic website out 255 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: in Oakland. We'll talk with him about that trade. We 256 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: never even mentioned it yesterday, did We were all we're 257 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: all Peterman down here? Were we were? Yeah? Huge trade 258 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: with implications, I think, And this why we went to 259 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: Vic of Tayfer, because it's look, the Bears are like 260 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: thirty other teams in the NFL. You want Khalil Mack, Yes, 261 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,719 Speaker 1: what will the cost right? Yes? And some teams that 262 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: weren't ready to pay that cost. But the intriguing part 263 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: of the deal, I believe is the Raiders standpoint right, 264 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: why would you give up Khalil Mack a premium player? 265 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: I mean, he is a blue ribbon, blue chip want 266 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: top three or four or five players in the game. 267 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: Why would you trade him away? And at the peak 268 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 1: of his career. I mean, he might not even have 269 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: hit the peak of his career yet. We'll talk with 270 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: Vic about that. I understand there's money involved and the 271 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: Raiders saying we were never prepared to pay him that 272 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: amount of money. Why not. He's that good. You're not 273 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: going to find a better defensive player. You may not 274 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: ever get a better defensive player than Khalil Mack if 275 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: you're the Oakland Raiders. So Peter to talk about that 276 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 1: with Vic Tafer. Yeah, and Peter King will have on 277 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: the show as well. He's he had some things to 278 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: say about it. Obviously, everybody in the league had to 279 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: chime in on the Khalil Mack trade. It's it's pretty massive, 280 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,319 Speaker 1: and you know that you're talking about percentage is the 281 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,959 Speaker 1: salary cap and and it's gonna be less than He's 282 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: gonna be making less than eleven percent of the salary 283 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: cap at the end of this deal. Is if if 284 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: the projections are correct, and that's for a guy of 285 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: his caliber, I don't know how you don't make it. 286 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: I know people who have been with the Raiders in 287 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: the past, and the lady, a great lady who works 288 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: with me at CBS Amy Trask. She said, there's no 289 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: way al Davis would have let that happen. He would 290 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,839 Speaker 1: have paid him the money to keep him. And you know, 291 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 1: al Davis famously said, hey, listen, the opposing quarterbacks gotta 292 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: go down, and he's got to go down hard. And 293 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: Khalil Mac does that. The guy goes down, he gets 294 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: the guy on the ground. He is an amazing pass rusher. 295 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: And they're gonna miss him, sure they will. I mean, 296 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: and I'll tell you what, the Kansas City Chiefs got 297 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: better with that trade because they won't have to face 298 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: him Chargers. The Chargers got better and Philip Rivers got better. 299 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: You know, that's huge trade. It is an enormous trade. 300 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: And and that's we didn't touch on it yesterday because 301 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: there was so much going on around here. We talked 302 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: about yesterday how busy it was around here and how 303 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: cool it was that, you know, you could tell something 304 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: was going on. We didn't even have time to touch 305 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: on it. And yet the Bears all of a sudden 306 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,719 Speaker 1: become they're a little bit more than an afterthought in 307 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,599 Speaker 1: that division now, even with the Minnesota Vikings and the 308 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers in it. So it's an interesting trade. 309 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: We'll get into it when we when we talk to 310 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: these guys on the phone and later in the show. 311 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: But I think that I think it's the most massive 312 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: trade particularly it's certainly of this year, maybe for the 313 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: last handful of year. Huge straight all right, it's all 314 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: of that coming up on the show today and more 315 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: lots of Bills talk where we want to involve. You 316 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: got a Twitter poll up today and it deals with 317 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: the Bills quarterback move out. We see Nathan Peterman named 318 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: yesterday as a starter. Simple question with an option of 319 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: answers for you on Twitter and on the telephone. Nine 320 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: simple here it is, how many games will Nathan Peterman 321 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: start for the Bills in twenty eighteen? You think it's 322 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: just he's a placeholder until Josh Allen is ready? Do 323 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: you think it depends on it? Formans? You think they're 324 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: ready to keep Josh Allen on the sidelines for a 325 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: little while. Look, we don't know that any of us 326 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: have the answer to this, but we can certainly speculate, 327 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: and that's what we're looking for you to do. You 328 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: can give us a call at eight oh three oh 329 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: five fifty or from outside Buffalo Toll three at one eight, eight, eight, 330 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: five fifty two, five fifty or tweeting in that one 331 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: Bills Live how many games will Nathan Peterman start this 332 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: year for the Buffalo Bills. We've been up on Twitter 333 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: for about forty minutes or so, more than five hundred 334 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: votes in the early going here, and more than half 335 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: of you, fifty one percent say you think that Nathan 336 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: Peterman will start five to eight games, less than half 337 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: a season. Twenty eight percent of you think it'll be 338 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: four or fewer games, and twenty one percent of you 339 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: think it'll be nine or more games. That's a decent split. 340 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: We'd like to hear from you. You can vote on Twitter, 341 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: but let's hear from you as well, either on Twitter 342 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: or on the telephone lines, how you think it'll play out? 343 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: How many games will Nathan Peterman start in twenty eighteen? D' 344 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: want my critique of how good our Twitter player is. 345 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: It's not too bad. I mean twenty eight twenty one 346 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: percent on two and then fifty percent for the other's. 347 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: That's a pretty good Twitter pole. It's not all it's 348 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: not one of the top five in our history, but 349 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: that's a pretty good pole. And I just doing this 350 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: because this was my Twitter pole idea. I'm just saying 351 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: it was like, it's a good Twitter poll, not a 352 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: phenomenal great Twitter pole, but it is good right off 353 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: the top of your head. And Jay, I know it 354 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: was good the moment, the moment you suggested the Twitter pole, 355 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: our producer was trying to take credit for it. I 356 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: knew it was a good one. From the tweet sheet 357 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: from tick Nagger, probably nine or more games? Will Nathan 358 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: Peterman start once? Or if the Bills are mathematically out 359 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: of the playoffs, Allen has two and we'll get to 360 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: play And just like Peterman took a jump from year 361 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: one to year two, Allen will do the same in 362 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen once or if the Bills are mathematically out 363 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: of the playoffs, or what if they never get What 364 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: if that's fourteen weeks in? Do you still you stay 365 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: with that? I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. What 366 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: if And here's the thing, I'm not saying this well happen, 367 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: but what if things are going along and you realize 368 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: that maybe you got a better chance to avoid elimination 369 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: from the playoffs with Josh Allen? Could happen from sipping 370 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: the kool a this tweet how many games will Nathan 371 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: Peterman start this year? Seven? The kool Ai says, I 372 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 1: voted nine plus Peterman doubters. Maybe in for a big surprise. 373 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 1: Keeping four tight ends tells me we'll see a lot 374 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 1: of twelve personnel. With Kelvin Benjamin and big athletic tight 375 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: ends and twelve personnel, it'll be tough to defend, and 376 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: we'll cover some of the offensive line flaws and open 377 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: up the running game. Peterman will thrive. That's an interesting take. 378 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 1: Peterman will thrive. I listen, I haven't you know. We've 379 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: talked going into the show. We were talking off air 380 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: about all. You know, there's a lot of national negativity 381 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: about the Bills right now, really negative. Yeah, and it 382 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 1: wears on you a little bit. But I have not 383 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: shut the door on the fact that Nathan Peterman could thrive. 384 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: He could thrive in this offense. He could. We saw 385 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: some evidence of that right in preseason eighty percent completion 386 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: percentage and you know, one twenty four point seven quarterback rating. 387 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: We saw evidence that Nathan Peterman has improved from a 388 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: year ago. He's obviously going to be more confident than 389 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: a year ago, and I think he's getting better coaching 390 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: than he or any of the quarterbacks got year. He 391 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: could thrive. As Sipping the kool Aid points out in 392 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: his tweet, that could happen. I'm not ruling that out. 393 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 1: Yeah could, and I agree with you. There's a lot 394 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 1: of questions about how good he can play, no question 395 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 1: about it, and they haven't seen him very much. Defense 396 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 1: is it's a brand new offense. They've got a new realm, 397 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: of new roster of offensive personnel around him. It'll be 398 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: interesting to see Brian Dable and what he does to 399 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 1: make this offense more effective. There's a lot of things 400 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: that the answer to those questions might be, Yeah, that's 401 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 1: you know what they did the right thing. I don't 402 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: think there's any question this is an offense. It's going 403 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 1: to be very versatile. I think Peterman is in a 404 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: spot where any and I think his strength is his 405 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: ability to process and his ability to get the ball 406 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 1: out on time, and I think this is I think 407 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 1: that'll help the offensive line. I think there's a lot 408 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 1: of things this coaching staff is going to do that 409 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: was that we're not on the table a year ago. 410 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: I'm excited to see Brian Dable unfur a game plan 411 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: against even a good defense like Baltimore. I think there's 412 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: a lot of fun stuff to look forward to in 413 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: this game. Nathan Peterman and his play is only one 414 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 1: of them. I'm like sipping the kool aid. I'm kind 415 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: of excited to see how they use those tight ends 416 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 1: because with Charles Clay, Logan, Thomas Croom, Carr league, they've 417 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: got some athletes at tight end and that's a problem 418 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: for a lot of teams. And we'll see if if 419 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: it turns out that way for the Bills in this 420 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: opening game. I wanted to get to one more from 421 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 1: the tweet sheet team any twenty two. I think Alan 422 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 1: goes in Week five. Bills will struggle with a very 423 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: first tough quarter schedule. I think it's very plausible even 424 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 1: for an O and four one and three start, they'll 425 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: be home week five and a good time to start allan. See, 426 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 1: that's the kind of negative, that's kind of projections. A 427 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 1: lot of people around the country got for this team. 428 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: And here's the thing. It's easy to forget when you 429 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: get further away from it, and I'm not don't forget 430 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: how much the culture meant to this team last year 431 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,719 Speaker 1: and how many games it kind of carried them too 432 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 1: through last year. How many victories. Don't forget what happened 433 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: to him a week less than a week ago in Chicago. 434 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 1: It was the character in the chemistry and the culture 435 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 1: of the team that won that game in Chicago, even 436 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: though it was a preseason game and a lot of 437 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: the guys that were playing into aren't on the team anymore. 438 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: It was palpable. What a difference the culture made. I 439 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: think it's going to be even more so. We haven't 440 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: seen Lashawn McCoy this season. We haven't seen Trent Edwards 441 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 1: this season. We haven't seen what the defensive front seven 442 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 1: is going to be able to do against an offensive 443 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 1: line Trent Murphy Starlow to lelay. Their run defense is 444 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: going to be upgraded. I'm excited about all the things 445 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 1: we've been talking about through the offseason and has been 446 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: kept from us during the preseason. So you know, there's 447 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 1: a lot of reasons for me to be optimistic about 448 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: how good this team could be. And I hear the 449 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: negativity around the I hear because of all the moving 450 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 1: parts they had this offseason, because of all the dead 451 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: money on the cap they've got, with all the things 452 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 1: that are looming over it and the other. When you 453 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 1: see these things on other teams, they spell disaster. I'm 454 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: not so sure about it with this one. I really 455 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: am not. Let's take a few phone calls on this question. 456 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: How many games do you see for Nathan Peterman? How 457 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 1: many will you start this year? We'll start with Charlie 458 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: in Buffalo. Hello, Charlie, welcome, you're on the air with this. Hey, 459 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: how are you today? Good? Good? I think Nathan Peterman, 460 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: if they can keep them upright, will start twelve games. 461 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: Why twelve? I believe he'll start twelve games, and I 462 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: don't believe the builds are going to be any better 463 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: than five and eleven. This offensive line looks terrible, Charlie. 464 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: The question would be, why would he start that many 465 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: games if if they're not going to play well at 466 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,479 Speaker 1: what point? At some point don't you think let's take 467 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: a look at the rookie. I'm gonna throw Josh Allen 468 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 1: to the rolls with this offensive line. That's that's the 469 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: bottom line. They're not going to get this kid kills 470 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 1: You almost got a concussion in the preseason game. Well, 471 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 1: what makes you think Nathan Peterman will last longer than 472 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: Josh Allen? Would if he gets in there, because he 473 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: gets rid of the ball real quick, and he's two games, 474 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: he's out of a year behind us behind him, and 475 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: he can play a little longer. I think, Okay, all right, 476 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 1: all right, thanks Charlie. That's a valid that's a valid opinion. 477 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: Let's go to Adam in Virginia. Hello, Adam, you're on 478 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: the air. Hey, Murph, Hi, I think he starts. I 479 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: think the kids starts the week four. I think we're 480 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: easily going to start owing three because all we have 481 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:37,479 Speaker 1: an off kinds of shit basically, and then what then 482 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: you start him in week four against the Packers Bay. Yeah, 483 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: because Nathan doesn't have another ziper on his ball. Okay, 484 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: sows ducks out there. I don't know if he throws ducks, 485 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: but yeah, I get. I mean, Josh Allen throws a 486 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: lot hotter ball, no question about it. That's why he 487 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: was drafted number seven overall because the guy's got a 488 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: huge arm. But you don't think Brian day Ball or 489 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 1: the coaching staff understands what Nathan Peterman can do and 490 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: won't ask him to throw those passes and give him 491 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: stuff he can do. I think our offense is going 492 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 1: to be just like last year, run a couple of 493 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: signs and get enough. Uh are in trouble. Yeah see, 494 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: I don't think the office is going to be anything 495 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: at all like last year's time. It's I really don't 496 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: and I think there's evidence of that from preseason game 497 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: number one against Carolina, first couple of series, when the 498 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: Bills had multiple personnel packages, a lot of different formations, 499 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: and not the no huddle pace, with an up tempo pace. 500 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: They were at the line of scrimmage ready to go 501 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: much quicker than they were the rest of the preseason. 502 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: I don't think it looked there was there was motion, 503 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: there was pre snap motion. There were routes run over 504 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 1: the middle, which we didn't see for the last several years. 505 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: I don't think this offense. I'm not saying it'll be 506 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: better necessarily, but I don't think it's gonna look anything 507 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: like the offense the builds are put on the field 508 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: the last year or two. Yeah, I don't think. I 509 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: agree with h Murph. I don't think it's gonna look 510 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: anything like it. I think it's gonna be much more efficient. 511 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 1: I think, um, yeah, I there's too many new things, 512 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: and I think one of the things we saw in 513 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,199 Speaker 1: the first preseason game was and you mentioned it right 514 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: after the game, the Bills every play were running in 515 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: a different personnel combination. They were running in a ton 516 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 1: of guys every single play, and they were still going 517 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: with great pace in and out of the huddle with 518 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: some time on the play clock. I think that's kind 519 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: of what we're looking at. And I think it's a 520 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 1: great way to go. I think it's it makes you 521 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: look crisp sharp, It gives your quarterback a chance to 522 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 1: get into rhythm, It keeps the defense very, very uncomfortable, 523 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: and I think it gives you a chance to be successful. 524 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: And I think one of the things, like Adam just 525 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 1: called in from Virginia's you know, he says, I he 526 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: Peterman doesn't have the arm, But listen, this is a 527 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: this is a club. This is an offensive staff that 528 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: should be able to win with the skill set that 529 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman gives them. And they understand better than all 530 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 1: of us what his limitations are. They're not going to 531 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 1: ask him to do things that he's not capable of doing. 532 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: So whatever the asking him to do, he's gonna do 533 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: and he's gonna be able to do it. Physically, so 534 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: the things we've seen him not be able to do, 535 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 1: you can bet they won't ask him to do that. 536 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 1: The question is is there enough left over in this 537 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: offense for him to use his skill set? And will 538 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: it be enough to beat the Ravens on Sunday? And 539 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: I think I'm pretty sure when they go into that game, 540 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: the coaching stat's gonna think it it's enough. We're gonna 541 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: find out, aren't we on Sunday. And it's gonna be fun. 542 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun the rest of the weeks gonna 543 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 1: be fun. The rest of him today. Coming up after 544 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: the break, Peter King will join us, the long time 545 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: NFL observer now with the Football Morning in America is 546 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: a Monday morning website that comes a Monday morning post 547 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 1: that comes out on the NBC Sports website. Peter King 548 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: joining us next talk about Khalil Mack and the Raiders, 549 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: the team he left behind, with Vic Tafur at one 550 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 1: o'clock and Nathan Peterman going to join us in studio 551 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: with two. Got a big show here, you don't want 552 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,360 Speaker 1: to miss it. Stick around. I think it's big, It's 553 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: gonna get bigger, it's gonna get better. One Bill's Live 554 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: presented by Kalata Health from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo 555 00:25:55,400 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. Welcome back one of those lives, John Murphy, 556 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: Steve task You're coming in from One Bill's Drive and 557 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 1: our one Buffalo studio getting ready for the Bills in 558 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: Baltimore coming up on Sunday. Joining us right now on 559 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: the Subway Fresh Take Hotline. He'll be with us every 560 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: week during the course of the season. NBC sports columnists 561 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: covered the NFL for three decades. Happy to have Peter 562 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: King on the air with us. Peter, John Murphy and 563 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: Steve Tasker here in Buffalo, thanks for joining us. We 564 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: appreciate it. Good to be on with you guys. Look 565 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: forward to the season. Thank you. Since we talked, I 566 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: looked it up today. You were with us at training camp. 567 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: It was July thirty first. Since then, I believe you 568 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: have launched Football Morning in America. Right, you're back here 569 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: Monday Morning posts every Monday, kind of resetting the scene 570 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Talk about that, Peter and why that's 571 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: so important to do that every week. Right. I went 572 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 1: to NBC started on July first, The column started on 573 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: July sixteenth, and you know it's just it's something that 574 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: now going on twenty two years, I've I've just really 575 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: enjoyed it. I try to take the temperature of the 576 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: league every week and do it almost in a novella form. 577 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: And it's not for everybody, but hopefully we can reach 578 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: quite a few people with it. And I'll be doing 579 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: a lot more video also with the column this year 580 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: to try to bring it, try to bring it into 581 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. So for those who don't like words, I 582 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 1: am going to give you some pictures. It's up on 583 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: the website pro Football Talk dot NBC Sports dot com 584 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: Football Morning in America. What times I go up on 585 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 1: Monday mornings? Pretty early on Mondays? Right, Peter, Well, it's 586 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 1: so far to this offseason, it's been going up at 587 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 1: about three o'clock in the morning Eastern Time on Monday. 588 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 1: But mostly during the season it'll be up. It won't 589 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 1: be up any later than five am every Monday during 590 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: the season. Wow. Wow, Tuesday must be a rough day 591 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: for you. That's all I can say. Day because I'm 592 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: doing I'm trying to recover during the during the morning 593 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: and afternoon on Monday, so I don't have a lot 594 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: of Jews left when when when Monday Night football comes on, 595 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: Peter know you cover the whole league and we'll get 596 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 1: to us here locally in Buffalo and a mint. I 597 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: want to talk to you about the Khalil Mack trade. 598 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 1: It's it's kind of a massive deal when you think 599 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: about it. About a guy who is truly a star 600 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: in the league and an effective player and a productive player, 601 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: right on the cusp of really turning into what could 602 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: be a superstar career, and he gets traded from a 603 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: club that ostensibly was trying to get better. But I 604 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: don't know how you think you're going to be better 605 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: if you're the Oakland Raiders without Khalil Mack. Yeah, I mean, 606 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: here's the deal with Khalil Mack. In my opinion, all right, 607 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: you know, look everybody has seen, Oh I got twenty 608 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: two million dollars a year for for a guy who's 609 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: had two really good years in the NFL. He got 610 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: paid way too much money. I think people need to 611 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: stop this my opinion, I think people need to stop 612 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: thinking of it in terms of the dollar figures and 613 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: think of it in terms of percentage of the salary cap. 614 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: And if you were to tell me that over the 615 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: next seven years on average, Khalil max contract for one 616 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: of the three best defensive players in football in his 617 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: prime at age twenty seven. Right now, if you were 618 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: to tell me that he would take up ten to 619 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: eleven percent of your cap every year, to me, that's 620 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: not excessive. And you know, the Oakland Raiders get two 621 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: first round picks, and I ran a list of their 622 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: last ten first round picks, excluding the last two years, 623 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 1: because he can't judge them yet, Gary and Conley and 624 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: Colton Miller. I ran a list of these players and 625 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: they're all I'm not saying they're bums, but they're all 626 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: just run of the mill guys, with the exception of 627 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: Amari Cooper. And so you know, what is the goal here? 628 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: Is the goal here to collect a lot of draft 629 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:05,479 Speaker 1: choices or to develop stars, your own stars and then 630 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: let them walk. I don't I don't understand the Oakland 631 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: Raiders should be saying to their fans, we're doing everything 632 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: we can to win, and instead they're saying to their 633 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: play to their fans, we're doing everything we can to 634 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: be solvent and to build for the future. I mean, 635 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: that's that's a bad way of doing business. Yeah, and 636 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: I'll tell you. Let me get run down the quick 637 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: list of the guys you're talking about that the Raiders 638 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: have drafted. It was Robert Gallery, Fabian Washington, Michael Huff, 639 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: JaMarcus Russell, Darren McFadden, Darius Hayward Bay, Rolando McClain, DJ Hayden. 640 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: Then of course there's Amari Cooper and Karl Joseph. Now 641 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: seven of those guys that I just mentioned along with 642 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: we're top ten picks and I and you're right you 643 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: mentioned your article you wouldn't trade any one of them, 644 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: or any two of them for any for Khalil Mack. 645 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: I wouldn't trade three of them for Khalil Mack at 646 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: this point in his career and with the career that 647 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: those guys have had, even with Amari Cooper thrown in there. 648 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: I mean, you're talking about a league that is built 649 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: around two things defensively, getting turnovers and getting to the quarterback. 650 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: It used to be run and stop the run. It's 651 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: not about that anymore. It's about getting after the quarterback 652 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: and getting turnovers. And Khalil Mack is one of the 653 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 1: top two, for sure, the top three guys in the 654 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: league at doing that. And I don't know that. I 655 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: don't know how they think they're going to draft two 656 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: guys in the next over the next two years that 657 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: gives them a better outcome than Khalil Mack would if 658 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: they sign him. I think the one other point about 659 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: this Steve is everybody's saying, well, jeez, is he really 660 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: that good? Well? Pro Football Focus charts obviously sacks, quarterback hurries, 661 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: quarterback hits. And you know, under the umbrella term that 662 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: I've given this is quarterback disruptions. Okay, and in the 663 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: last two years, Khalil Mack has one hundred and seventy 664 00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: five quarterback disruptions. Number two on that list is Von 665 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: Miller with one hundred and sixty two. And so this guy, 666 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: even though people don't maybe view him right now in 667 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: the Von Miller class, I certainly do. And in the 668 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: last two years he's outperformed any edge rusher in the league. 669 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: Now think of him doing that without a lot of 670 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: help on that defensive front in Oakland. And now he 671 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: goes to Chicago, where you know a team Hicks very 672 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 1: quietly has become a top fifteen disruptor in the NFL. 673 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: You know. And Leonard Floyd was drafted to be a 674 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: really good edge rusher. He's done that in Spurts so far. 675 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: I think Chicago's defensive front, their front seven is going 676 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: to be scary good with the addition of Khalil Mack Peters. 677 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 1: There any way to look at that trade is anything 678 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: but John Gruden's move. And what does that say about 679 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,959 Speaker 1: Gruden and forecast? What kind of forecast does that give 680 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: you for his tenure in Oakland? I mean to me, 681 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,239 Speaker 1: I think what it says about Gruden is that if 682 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: you're a quarterback, I'm going to pay you. If not, 683 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: if you play any other position, we're going to scotch 684 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: tape it together. In the last twenty four hours since 685 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: I've been very vociferous about this, John, one of the 686 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: things that's really interesting to me is everybody has said, well, 687 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: what about the Patriots. The Patriots don't ever pay somebody 688 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: like that. I said, okay, the Patriots are one of 689 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: the NFL's all time outliers. And you tell me anywhere 690 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: else that a team has basically said, we're not on 691 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: this team, We're not even paying the quarterback market value. 692 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: And it works. It's just the Patriots are the all 693 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: time outlier when it comes to team construction in part 694 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: because Tom Brady has always said, I'm not going to 695 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: take every last dollar, and so with Brady being eminently 696 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: fair to the team, more than fair to the team, 697 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 1: in my opinion, all this says is the Raiders for 698 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: some reason, are intent on doing things a certain way 699 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: that I think right now is going to be destructive 700 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 1: to their team. On the line with Peter King, NBC 701 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: Sports column is talking about his Football Morning in America column, 702 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to go over in line 703 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 1: by line, but I did find it interesting your poll 704 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 1: about Roger Goodell. What is it? Seventy nine percent of 705 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,800 Speaker 1: respondence to your poll give him a disapproval rating do 706 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: not approve of his performance in office. I thought that 707 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: was high. Peter, I confess I know people have issues 708 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: with Goodell, but I thought that was really high. Well, 709 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 1: I think I wasn't that surprised by it, but I 710 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,320 Speaker 1: thought it would come out maybe three quarters or seventy percent. 711 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: The amazing thing is as divided as our country is, 712 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 1: they're still whatever thirty five percent. I don't even know 713 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 1: what the number is who support Donald Trump, and it's 714 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 1: almost like double the amount who support Roger Goodell. It's 715 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: just it's amazing really when you think about it. Mike 716 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: Florio had a real interesting seri on Pro Football Talk 717 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 1: that the NFL shouldn't want to do anything about that 718 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 1: number because Roger Goodell is making the big money for 719 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: one reason, He's taking these bullets for the owners, So 720 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: the owners don't want to get rid of them. They 721 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: want somebody who will take the bullets. I understand what 722 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,839 Speaker 1: Mike is saying, but I also disagree from this standpoint. 723 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: Do you think any owner, any owner, would like to 724 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 1: listen to Roger Goodell get the absolute living crap boot 725 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,720 Speaker 1: out of him year after year in any public venue, 726 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: especially at the draft. It's embarrassing for the league. So 727 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 1: I don't I understand why people might think, hey, he's 728 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: just he's doing the owner's bidding and all that stuff. 729 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: But this is more than that. It's more than that. 730 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 1: It's you know, it's I've written about this many times 731 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 1: in recent the last couple of years. Particularly Paul Tagliabu 732 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 1: used to have a saying when he was in office 733 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 1: about controversies, all's well that ends, you know, just forget 734 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 1: it ended. And Roger Goodell is like the bulldog who 735 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 1: clamps his teeth onto Tom Brady's ankle and is not 736 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:13,720 Speaker 1: going to let go until he gets what he considers justice, 737 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: and even if it takes two years, which that did 738 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 1: and was a huge, huge distraction over two years for 739 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,839 Speaker 1: something that we could argue about it all day, I'm sure, 740 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: for something that had very very little to do with 741 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,879 Speaker 1: whether the Patriots ever lost or won a football game. 742 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 1: But be that as it may, I don't see any 743 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 1: way that Goodell turns this around. Now, Peter, let's talk 744 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 1: to you a little bit about the Bills. There. Big 745 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,879 Speaker 1: quarterback decision came out yesterday. You were at camp back 746 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 1: at the end of July. You could not have been 747 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 1: surprised that the Bills chose Nathan Peterman to start the opener. Huh. Well, 748 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 1: I thought after the Cincinnati preseason game, I thought that 749 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: was a startling first half to watch. And what I 750 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 1: saw in that, well I had halftime. I said, the 751 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 1: Bills can't start Josh Allen. You know, they got to 752 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 1: start either mccaren or Peterman because you can't put your 753 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 1: rookie quarterback behind an offensive line that either had a 754 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 1: bad day or stinx. I mean, you just can't do it. 755 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 1: So I looked at it in that on that day 756 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 1: and said, you know, josh Allen needs not only to 757 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 1: learn a little bit more to learn to especially to 758 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,840 Speaker 1: get the ball out quicker, but I also think you 759 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 1: don't want to put him in harm's way like that. 760 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,840 Speaker 1: I think the Bills make the right call. Yeah, And 761 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 1: it was kind of obviously even in behind that same 762 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:43,360 Speaker 1: offensive line, Peterman seemed to play consistently. I mean, we 763 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 1: saw aj roller coaster his way through a statistical preseason, 764 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 1: and of course Josh Allen's a rookie quarterback. You know 765 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 1: he was going to be a roller coaster Peterman. I 766 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 1: give this to Peterman, Okay, he really had a good 767 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 1: preseason with all the pressure in the world on him. 768 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 1: I think we all felt on July first that if 769 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 1: you looked at the Bills, well, Peterman's number three. I 770 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,879 Speaker 1: mean everybody had to have felt that way. McCarron won 771 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 1: Alan two and Peterman three or something like that, whether 772 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:16,359 Speaker 1: you had Alan or McCarron first. And you know, every 773 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 1: day it's just like Sean McDermott said, you know, every day, 774 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman show that he belonged. And so I looked 775 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 1: at it as I thought it was the right call 776 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 1: by the Bills. Peter, just your overall aiment of what 777 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:32,880 Speaker 1: the Bills might look like this year. What kind of 778 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 1: a season should Bills fans anticipate. Well, in my opinion, 779 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 1: I think it has to be a season where they 780 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 1: control the ball and they try to play some keepaway 781 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 1: and try to have long drives. I think it'll be 782 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,719 Speaker 1: a good year, a really good year, assuming he can 783 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 1: play sixteen games for Lashawn McCoy. On the other side 784 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,319 Speaker 1: of the ball, I still want to know who's going 785 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:01,440 Speaker 1: to be the quarterback disruptor, who's going to be the 786 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:05,959 Speaker 1: guy who keeps offensive coordinators up at night. That would 787 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,399 Speaker 1: be probably the thing that would worry me the most, 788 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 1: the fact that I don't think the Bills are in 789 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 1: position to play many scoring contests. And I love the 790 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 1: addition of Starlow to Leiley, but I still think that 791 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 1: they've got to answer this question. Who's going to be 792 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 1: their multi sack guy, Who's going to be the guy 793 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:29,360 Speaker 1: who scares quarterbacks? That's still very much a TBA A 794 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 1: lot of good questions. We're surrounded by questions about this team. Peter. 795 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,360 Speaker 1: Thank you. We look forward to talk to you every Tuesday. 796 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 1: You're on the show. Thanks very much. Sounds good, guys, 797 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 1: See thank you. King, NBC Sports columnists, the author of 798 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:43,319 Speaker 1: Football Morning in America on Monday Mornings Pro Football Pro 799 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 1: Football Talk Dot NBC Sports. That's where you find it. 800 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 1: Pretty good incisive analysis of the NFL. Yeah, and you 801 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 1: talk about a guy who I like it because you 802 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 1: can get inside about every team in the league and 803 00:39:55,560 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 1: issues and topics. As you can imagine having written that article, 804 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 1: and it started out as Monday Morning Quarterback Announce, moved 805 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 1: over to NBC and now it's a Football Morning in America. 806 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 1: It is a very long article, so you got to 807 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 1: take some time to read the entire thing. But having 808 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:16,239 Speaker 1: written that type of article for so long, there's not 809 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 1: too many executives in the NFL that are afraid to 810 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 1: talk to him. To pears, he's been a Hall of 811 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 1: Fame voter for years and years. He's been trusted by 812 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:30,800 Speaker 1: players for years and years, and he has his like 813 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 1: he says he likes to take the pulse of the 814 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 1: league every single week during the season, and and it's 815 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 1: nice to let us to read about what he thinks 816 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,400 Speaker 1: of it. It's a he's an interesting guys. He's been 817 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 1: a good acquaintance of mine, almost a friend of mine 818 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 1: for a long long time. And I'm glad we got 819 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,279 Speaker 1: him on on Tuesdays. I mean, I feel bad though 820 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,440 Speaker 1: he's gonna be catching up on sleep. So always the 821 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 1: day after the day after, when you stay up all night, 822 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 1: you can usually gut it out that next day. But 823 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 1: Tuesday is a rough one. Yeah, up all morning in 824 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 1: America Monday mornings. Peter King will be with us on Tuesdays. 825 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,439 Speaker 1: We thank him for joining us on the Subway Fresh 826 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,880 Speaker 1: Take Hotline, Subway Eat Fresh. Steve and I back with 827 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,280 Speaker 1: more One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo 828 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:28,759 Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. It's our Tuesday show. We got a good 829 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 1: week coming up here. See. We got the Nathan Peterman 830 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,400 Speaker 1: coming up later today. He'll join us in around two 831 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 1: o'clock today. We got Greg Coseell later in the week. 832 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 1: Eric Wood's going to join us up. I believe on 833 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 1: Friday this week. You believe that Eric would? We haven't 834 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 1: talking to him since his I believe it. I do too, 835 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,879 Speaker 1: believe it. I do. It's gonna happen it, Murph is real. 836 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 1: If you say it, I believe it. Good all right? Um, 837 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 1: what else are a couple other guests. Oh, Lorenzo will 838 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,760 Speaker 1: be with us on Friday. Um, we got practice tomorrow. 839 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 1: Brownie will be out of practice. We are in a 840 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 1: regular season mode now with the Bills. Things have changed, 841 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:04,279 Speaker 1: right from April May June? April May and June or right, Yeah, 842 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,400 Speaker 1: that's before training camp. It's like this place is a ghost. Yes, 843 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,320 Speaker 1: we're not there now. We got plenty of stuff to 844 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 1: talk about, including uh, Nathan Peterman Sunday started a quarterback. 845 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,799 Speaker 1: How many starts for Nathan Peterman this year? That's our 846 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,759 Speaker 1: topic of the day. That's our Twitter poll. We're talking 847 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 1: to you about it. Eight three fifteen, the number two 848 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,279 Speaker 1: three one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty 849 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 1: got a call on the line from Charlie and Buffalo. Charlie, 850 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 1: go ahead, you're on the air. This isn't Charlie. Oh 851 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Who's this Tom from the West Side? Oh sorry, 852 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 1: Tom ahead, board, says Charlie. Sorry about that. Hey, I 853 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 1: miss I, miss Eric and Richie already get that out there. Okay, Yeah, 854 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,840 Speaker 1: but anyway, I saw the Power rankings this morning and 855 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 1: they had us west of thirty first, and I think 856 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:54,719 Speaker 1: that's awful. Well, who's thirty two Indianapolis. Okay, now, I 857 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,880 Speaker 1: think that's kind of low. I think they're basing it 858 00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 1: on the offensive line, but they got the Jets ahead 859 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 1: of them, and I mean they're starting a rookie quarterback. Now, 860 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,800 Speaker 1: I think our one percentage is gonna go down because 861 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,400 Speaker 1: Nate Peterman is starting. I don't see us beating Baltimore, 862 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,359 Speaker 1: and we might be lucky with our defense pull out 863 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,040 Speaker 1: one or two wins out of the first handful of games. 864 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 1: But I honestly believe if you're asking this question, Peterman 865 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,359 Speaker 1: is not gonna last more than four games. Well, we're 866 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,279 Speaker 1: asking how many will he start? So how many think 867 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 1: he'll start? Four? Three, four? Probably four? Okay, all right, 868 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,560 Speaker 1: we'll see why. Now why not? Is that just because 869 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,319 Speaker 1: of the offensive line or do you think it's because 870 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 1: of the way he's gonna play. He's done what you've 871 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 1: done with me? Forget it. I'm always all business. Get lost. Okay. 872 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,400 Speaker 1: I don't know where power rankings. I mean, that's the thing. 873 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,239 Speaker 1: I don't know where power rankings come from or how 874 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:52,839 Speaker 1: they come up with that. I don't. I think they 875 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,239 Speaker 1: are absolutely meaningless. We have standings, we have a way 876 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,839 Speaker 1: to determine who's ahead of whom and I'm pretty good 877 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 1: with that. Well, listen, I think most football fans know. 878 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 1: You couldn't predict what the Bills we're gonna do last year. 879 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 1: It was it's so unpredictable, particularly at this point in 880 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:12,880 Speaker 1: the year. You don't know who these teams are going 881 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 1: to be. That's why you go through and they say hey, 882 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,719 Speaker 1: and we even do it here yesterday we said, you know, 883 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,040 Speaker 1: the first three opponents of the Buffalo Bills or that 884 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,319 Speaker 1: had the best past defense in the National Football League 885 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:27,319 Speaker 1: a year ago, and it means nothing because as soon 886 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 1: as they tee it up this year, they're gonna have 887 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 1: different rankings. Those three teams won't be the top ranked 888 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 1: pass defenses in the NFL. They may be in the 889 00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 1: top ten or top five even, but they're not gonna 890 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:39,839 Speaker 1: be the top three. It's just the way things are. 891 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,440 Speaker 1: Things change year to year. It's fun to think about 892 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,239 Speaker 1: because we here in Buffalo, and I've said this before 893 00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,680 Speaker 1: in the show we hear in Buffalo tend to project 894 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,680 Speaker 1: last year onto this year for all the other teams 895 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:55,480 Speaker 1: except ours, and that's just the way football fandom is. 896 00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 1: It's our job to do that. Yeah, you take what 897 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,799 Speaker 1: you know, and you projected onto what's going on now 898 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 1: and how the thing And you take problems you had 899 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,480 Speaker 1: a year ago, and you project all those things you've 900 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,720 Speaker 1: done to try and solve those problems onto this season, 901 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,319 Speaker 1: and you hope that most of them are writing if 902 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,799 Speaker 1: they are, the only thing you haven't done is anticipate 903 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:18,600 Speaker 1: the problems you now have. You haven't anticipated the oncoming problem, 904 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:22,279 Speaker 1: right or the right and so. And things get better, yea, 905 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:26,080 Speaker 1: And things get better, and things are always different than 906 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,800 Speaker 1: what we think they're gonna be before the season begins. 907 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,279 Speaker 1: If I probably said this more on this show over 908 00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,440 Speaker 1: the last few years in any other statement, it's a 909 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,480 Speaker 1: week to week league. It's not just year to year 910 00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,880 Speaker 1: it is. It's going to look different next week at 911 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,680 Speaker 1: this time, going into the home opening against the Chargers 912 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 1: than it does this week. It's just the way it is. 913 00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,400 Speaker 1: It's a week to week league. So your power rankings, 914 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,800 Speaker 1: I don't know what they mean. You're exactly right, Murphy. 915 00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,440 Speaker 1: It is a week to week league. And by the 916 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:54,279 Speaker 1: end of the NFL this season in twenty eighteen is 917 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,640 Speaker 1: going to look two hundred percent different in a month 918 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,680 Speaker 1: than it does now. Hey, this was interesting. Last night 919 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 1: to US Open tennis. Roger Federer, the second seed, just 920 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 1: had a terrible night. It was hot in New York. 921 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 1: It was sweltering in New York, and he played a 922 00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:13,120 Speaker 1: match against a fifty fifth seed, John Milman in the 923 00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:17,240 Speaker 1: US Open. Any loss. Roger Federer played poorly, double faulted 924 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:21,120 Speaker 1: ten times, lost in four sets in the fourth round 925 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,920 Speaker 1: of John Milman. The match began Monday, concluded at one 926 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,320 Speaker 1: am today at the US Open in New York. So 927 00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,400 Speaker 1: the funny part was, so Milman knocks off Roger Federer, 928 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,360 Speaker 1: You think, right, this is a big highlight of his 929 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 1: earlier big moment, never done anything like this before. His 930 00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,120 Speaker 1: quote after was hilarious. One o'clock in the morning, John 931 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,200 Speaker 1: mil Milman just knocked off Roger Federer, he says his quote. 932 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,160 Speaker 1: It's one o'clock now, I probably probably should try and 933 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,560 Speaker 1: get a recovery. I've got a seven o'clock in the 934 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,279 Speaker 1: morning fantasy draft, so I'm gonna get up for that 935 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,719 Speaker 1: and hopefully I have a good draft. I'm second pick. 936 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,920 Speaker 1: I don't know whether I'm gonna go Todd Gurley or 937 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,480 Speaker 1: living on Bell. That's time his mind. After he beats 938 00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:00,479 Speaker 1: Roger Federer, that's great. The NFL is an eight hundred 939 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:04,360 Speaker 1: pound guerrilla, is it not? Itelievable, that's what he's thinking of. 940 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 1: It really is not. It's really unbelievable. Um, fantasy drafts. 941 00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 1: I mean, you listen to the guys that come on 942 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,239 Speaker 1: after us Choping the bullog and that's man, they talk 943 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,239 Speaker 1: about fantasy drafts. They're in dozen, they're in a couple 944 00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,399 Speaker 1: of dozen leagues. It sounds like they're I mean there, 945 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,800 Speaker 1: that's all they do. And for me, I'm kind of 946 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:24,239 Speaker 1: more old school. I tried fantasy once back in the 947 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,000 Speaker 1: day with the CBS had us doing it. You know 948 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,279 Speaker 1: all that. Man, I don't have I do not have 949 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,920 Speaker 1: the time to do it because it can it can 950 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:36,200 Speaker 1: consume you. I mean you spend time reading injury reports 951 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 1: and then you know, and I was doing it anyway 952 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:42,680 Speaker 1: for my job, and then to go out and research 953 00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:44,319 Speaker 1: all this other stuff about who you got to pick 954 00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 1: and try and trade guys, and you're on the phone 955 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,600 Speaker 1: about everything except the game that I'm doing for. I mean, 956 00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,200 Speaker 1: I couldn't do it. I lasted like one year and 957 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:55,480 Speaker 1: I made it. Let me two lineup changes and I 958 00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,520 Speaker 1: don't even and I can't even remember what they were. 959 00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,279 Speaker 1: I just do not have the time to do it. 960 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,360 Speaker 1: I know it's very popular, and I get what it's 961 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,120 Speaker 1: really popular. I don't. I could never get around the 962 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,600 Speaker 1: fact that I'd be rooting for weird things to happen 963 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,560 Speaker 1: with the outcome kind of secondary, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, 964 00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:13,960 Speaker 1: it's rooting for weird things. I don't really care who 965 00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:15,360 Speaker 1: wins the game, but I need him to run for 966 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:18,480 Speaker 1: one hundred yards. The proponents of fantasy will tell you 967 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 1: that it makes fans out of more people on a 968 00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,960 Speaker 1: league wide scale. They have they'll they'll be interested in 969 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,520 Speaker 1: this game and that game because they have players in 970 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,640 Speaker 1: it that are on their team. They won't It won't 971 00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:31,440 Speaker 1: be just be for Bills fans. It won't be just 972 00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,640 Speaker 1: about the Bills. It'll be about the Bills, but it 973 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,760 Speaker 1: will be also about the four or five other teams 974 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,600 Speaker 1: that you have players on, so you'll be your interest 975 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,720 Speaker 1: will widen across the league, and you know, the league 976 00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,960 Speaker 1: likes that. Plus the fact that it is wildly popular, 977 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:48,400 Speaker 1: particularly and now it's gonna listen with the new gambling 978 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:52,440 Speaker 1: laws or the lack thereof. Uh, it's gonna I think 979 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:56,000 Speaker 1: it's gonna mushroom. Don't you think gambling is Yeah, And 980 00:48:56,080 --> 00:49:01,160 Speaker 1: I think when draft came and fan duel came out, 981 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:06,040 Speaker 1: they explode, And I mean they exploded fast, fast, And 982 00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,320 Speaker 1: that's why that's why they had to make rulings on 983 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,880 Speaker 1: the gambling laws, because of the fact people want to 984 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:13,880 Speaker 1: do that. They played so much. Sure, all right, we 985 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:15,960 Speaker 1: gotta break care. We're gonna talk more about Khalil Mack 986 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:17,719 Speaker 1: in the next hour, and at two o'clock we got 987 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,239 Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman coming into the studio, so it's make sure 988 00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,200 Speaker 1: you stick around for that. Stephen, I aren until three. 989 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,040 Speaker 1: One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health from One Bill's 990 00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:42,080 Speaker 1: Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio, Hello Hills Radio Network Sports Date. 991 00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,120 Speaker 1: You got the update from One Bill's Drive on this 992 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,200 Speaker 1: Tuesday player's day off here at One Bill's Drive. Several 993 00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,880 Speaker 1: of them in for treatments and conditioning work, however, and 994 00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,400 Speaker 1: the Bills reportedly have a couple of players veterans in 995 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:56,640 Speaker 1: for workouts veteran free agents. Reportedly, quarterback Paxton Lynch, just 996 00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:58,759 Speaker 1: released by Denver over the weekend, is in for a 997 00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,200 Speaker 1: workout today for the Bills. Far our first rounder from 998 00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,840 Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos. Also Burchard Perriman, former first rounder released 999 00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:06,960 Speaker 1: by Baltimore over the weekend. He is said to be 1000 00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,319 Speaker 1: in visiting the Bills. No confirmation on that. Defensive end 1001 00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,640 Speaker 1: Nate Orchard, who was the second round pick from the 1002 00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,719 Speaker 1: Browns released by Cleveland over the weekend. He also was 1003 00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:17,600 Speaker 1: said to be in for a workout with the Bills. Again, 1004 00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,280 Speaker 1: no confirmation on any of that. Bill's back at practice 1005 00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,600 Speaker 1: tomorrow as the week continues as they get set for 1006 00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,640 Speaker 1: the opener in Baltimore Sunday at one pm. The Steelers 1007 00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,040 Speaker 1: officially want Lebon Bell to get back to work. That's 1008 00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,200 Speaker 1: what his teammates said. That was a no show with 1009 00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,719 Speaker 1: the team's facility yesterday. He is a fourteen and a 1010 00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,480 Speaker 1: half million dollar franchise tender waiting for him. He is 1011 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:39,080 Speaker 1: yet to sign it. Steelers center Marquise Pouncey told ESPN 1012 00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,560 Speaker 1: he'll be here on Wednesday. Count On It said teammates 1013 00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:43,920 Speaker 1: are not concerned about Bell's absence because they know he 1014 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,880 Speaker 1: will show up ready to play. One day after naming 1015 00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,719 Speaker 1: Sam Darnold as their starting quarterback, to New York Jets 1016 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,319 Speaker 1: added one of his former Pac twelve rivals to their 1017 00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,080 Speaker 1: practice squad. Davis Webb, third round pick of the Giants 1018 00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,840 Speaker 1: last year, released Sunday by the Giants, went unclaimed on 1019 00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,360 Speaker 1: waivers and became a free agent. He was signed by 1020 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,680 Speaker 1: the New York Jets. The Jets carrying only Donald and 1021 00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,960 Speaker 1: Josh McCown on their fifty three man roster. Eagles have 1022 00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:09,200 Speaker 1: resigned wide receiver Marcus Wheaton and put ten on Richard 1023 00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:12,360 Speaker 1: Rodgers on injured reserve. Wheaton originally signed by the Eagles 1024 00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,920 Speaker 1: back in May. Hockey comes back to Buffalo this week. 1025 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,680 Speaker 1: The Prospects Challenge kicks off Friday, with the prospects from 1026 00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,239 Speaker 1: the Sabers, Bruins, Penguins, and Devils going head to head 1027 00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,640 Speaker 1: at Harbor Center. Buffalo plays New Jersey seven o'clock on 1028 00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,600 Speaker 1: Friday night. Roger Federer was upset last night at the 1029 00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:31,040 Speaker 1: US Open. Fifty fifth seed John Millman took advantage of 1030 00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,640 Speaker 1: Federer's fatigue as a match went to one o'clock, knocked 1031 00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,040 Speaker 1: him off in four sets. And Rick Pettino says it 1032 00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,839 Speaker 1: is unlikely her return to coaching at the college level. 1033 00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:43,120 Speaker 1: He released the book yesterday entitled Patino My Story, and 1034 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,200 Speaker 1: he says his story includes the fact that he would 1035 00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:48,640 Speaker 1: probably not coach again. All right, John Murphy, Steve Tasker 1036 00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,400 Speaker 1: here at one Bill's driver as we get ready to 1037 00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,080 Speaker 1: start hour two. We are starting hour two. We didn't 1038 00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:54,680 Speaker 1: get it. We talked about this last hour. We didn't 1039 00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:56,640 Speaker 1: spend a whole lot of time, if at all, talking 1040 00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,080 Speaker 1: about Khalil Mack yesterday. We decided to do so today 1041 00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,960 Speaker 1: to catch up the monumental trade over the weekend. Khalil 1042 00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,320 Speaker 1: Mack goes to the Chicago Bears, joining us on the 1043 00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,840 Speaker 1: subway Fresh Tank hotline. The guy who covers the Oakland 1044 00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:10,960 Speaker 1: Raiders and the NFL for the athletic Bay Area. It's 1045 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,600 Speaker 1: been twelve years with the San Francisco Chronicle before that. 1046 00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:15,719 Speaker 1: Happy to have Vic Tafer round the line with this, Vic, 1047 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:17,680 Speaker 1: John Murphy and Seam Tasker here in Buffalo, Thank you 1048 00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,600 Speaker 1: very much. Yeah, no problem. How are you guys doing good? 1049 00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:25,520 Speaker 1: I got a little soreness on my head from scratching 1050 00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,120 Speaker 1: my head trying to figure out what it was that 1051 00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,480 Speaker 1: led the Raiders to think that they should trade away 1052 00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,560 Speaker 1: Khalil Mac despite their contract issue. What do you think 1053 00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,480 Speaker 1: they were thinking there? Vic? Yeah, I mean I talked 1054 00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,120 Speaker 1: to Regie McKenzie and John Gordon the last few days. Nice. 1055 00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:39,920 Speaker 1: Still I'm scratching my head too. I don't know I 1056 00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:43,160 Speaker 1: understand it. I think my take is it panicked. I 1057 00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,080 Speaker 1: think they didn't really have a plan, you know, to 1058 00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,000 Speaker 1: match it or to get him the money he wanted 1059 00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:52,040 Speaker 1: to get. I think they didn't weren't proactive enough over 1060 00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,080 Speaker 1: the last couple of years, and they kind of started 1061 00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,160 Speaker 1: taking trade offers and they reached the point, I think 1062 00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,320 Speaker 1: on Friday night, but they kind of said, you know what, 1063 00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,200 Speaker 1: if we get offered two first round pick, we're gonna 1064 00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,840 Speaker 1: do it, and the Bears. The Bears jumped into you know, 1065 00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,399 Speaker 1: which is a smart move, and you gotta I think, 1066 00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,000 Speaker 1: a future Hall of Fame player in his prime, which 1067 00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,760 Speaker 1: is uh, I can't. I can't recall many teams trading 1068 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:15,000 Speaker 1: guys like that. So yeah, I'm also still confused as 1069 00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,600 Speaker 1: to why it was done. How far do you think 1070 00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,520 Speaker 1: this pushes back their timeline for success. I don't know 1071 00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,440 Speaker 1: that their roster was ready to win a Super Bowl, 1072 00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,560 Speaker 1: but certainly last year they went to the league into 1073 00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,920 Speaker 1: the year thinking they've had every reason to think they 1074 00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,040 Speaker 1: were going to get deep into the playoffs. Do you 1075 00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:35,799 Speaker 1: think this pushes their timeline back significantly, maybe a year 1076 00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,200 Speaker 1: or two. I do think I do like Paul Gunther 1077 00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,160 Speaker 1: a lot in the defensive coordinator. He's part of the 1078 00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,640 Speaker 1: probably is the best coordinat they've had here in probably 1079 00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:45,279 Speaker 1: nine or ten years. So I think he's a really 1080 00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,640 Speaker 1: good job. I think that's probably what I'm sure it wasn't. 1081 00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,279 Speaker 1: The back of John Gooden's mind was like, you know what, 1082 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,200 Speaker 1: guns is so good, you can make mores less. We can. 1083 00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,600 Speaker 1: We can get by and add some picks and some 1084 00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,560 Speaker 1: stilar cap space for next year. So I think they 1085 00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,480 Speaker 1: won't totally fall off the cliff. But obviously saying lose 1086 00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,200 Speaker 1: a guy like Kurle Mack and get nothing back this year, 1087 00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:04,840 Speaker 1: they got me all that gout his future pick, so 1088 00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:07,719 Speaker 1: it's it's a huge hit to take a week before 1089 00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:11,239 Speaker 1: the season starts. It gets money, But we've learned over 1090 00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,200 Speaker 1: the NFL in recent years that teams can afford whatever 1091 00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:16,680 Speaker 1: they want to afford, right, I mean, even with whatever 1092 00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,480 Speaker 1: amount of money they would have maybe made a deal 1093 00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,440 Speaker 1: with to keep Khalil Mack. You construct your cap so 1094 00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,880 Speaker 1: that you make it work, right, It's not impossible. No, definitely, 1095 00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:27,640 Speaker 1: I think like good teams do that, And I think 1096 00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:29,719 Speaker 1: everyone was freaking out over the super price, you know 1097 00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,799 Speaker 1: when I got ninety million guaranteed. But if you look 1098 00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,160 Speaker 1: at if you project, you know, what he's making Derek Cars, 1099 00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:36,480 Speaker 1: and I know that that's what I'm saying. You can't 1100 00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:38,520 Speaker 1: afford to keep both Car and Mac. But if you 1101 00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:40,520 Speaker 1: project their stalary cap what they're going to make over 1102 00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:42,960 Speaker 1: the next five years, and the factor in the ten 1103 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,040 Speaker 1: million dollars increases in the cap every year, you're looking 1104 00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,920 Speaker 1: at about twenty percent of your cap on two guys, 1105 00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:50,960 Speaker 1: which I think if you look at history, I think 1106 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,839 Speaker 1: that's pretty much not too far out of out of whack. 1107 00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:55,680 Speaker 1: I think that's you know, if you have two star 1108 00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,239 Speaker 1: foundation type pieces, and that's that's what it takes. What 1109 00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,839 Speaker 1: give us a little thumbnail where the Raiders are as 1110 00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:03,839 Speaker 1: they begin the season and off the top I had. 1111 00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:05,640 Speaker 1: I can't remember who they're gonna open up with, but 1112 00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:07,920 Speaker 1: you know what's the vibe coming out of there? Now 1113 00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,719 Speaker 1: that Gruden has done this, is he running the risk of, 1114 00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:13,840 Speaker 1: you know, having his players look sideways at him a 1115 00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,440 Speaker 1: little bit? Does this change the attitude or the reception 1116 00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:19,120 Speaker 1: John Gruden's gonna get? Maybe in the locker room is 1117 00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:22,400 Speaker 1: one thing, and the fan base is another. Yeah. I 1118 00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:24,600 Speaker 1: think short term, the players definitely were a little upset. 1119 00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,520 Speaker 1: Man definite more shocked and upset. But I act schedule 1120 00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:29,600 Speaker 1: is good in that sense. They opened up on Monday 1121 00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,080 Speaker 1: and night football against the Rams at home with a 1122 00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,800 Speaker 1: crazy crowd. So I think Gruden will get them. Anybody 1123 00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:36,759 Speaker 1: can get them fired up for that, and Gooden definitely will. 1124 00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:38,960 Speaker 1: So I think after huge game, as far as if 1125 00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,080 Speaker 1: they get off in the right foot, and if they don't, 1126 00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:43,560 Speaker 1: I think the players probably will think back to their 1127 00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:45,600 Speaker 1: initial reaction. You know, I'm Saturday like, what what the 1128 00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:47,800 Speaker 1: hell just happened here? So I think you need that, 1129 00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:49,399 Speaker 1: you need to win that to kind of get things 1130 00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:51,000 Speaker 1: to turn around a little bit, and I feel like 1131 00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,799 Speaker 1: you hadn't done the wrong path. Hey. An easy analysis 1132 00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:58,000 Speaker 1: of Gruden's motivation might be that well, as an offensive guy, 1133 00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:00,200 Speaker 1: he puts no value in defensive stand up. It's like 1134 00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:02,800 Speaker 1: Kalil Mack? Is that is that accurate? Is that in 1135 00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,840 Speaker 1: play at all? Here? Do you think? I don't think so. 1136 00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,040 Speaker 1: I mean, all along he said that Komack was our 1137 00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:11,480 Speaker 1: best player, not one of our best players, he was 1138 00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,040 Speaker 1: our best player, and talking to him, gone through back 1139 00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,200 Speaker 1: here four or five months ago. I know they were 1140 00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:19,920 Speaker 1: excited that Khalil had not reached his potential. They thought 1141 00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,000 Speaker 1: he wasn't getting a lot better because if you look 1142 00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,279 Speaker 1: at the coaching scheamship had been bias free years here. 1143 00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,080 Speaker 1: It wasn't a lot of moving around and didn't really 1144 00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:29,880 Speaker 1: take advantage his versatilities because teammates weren't that great as 1145 00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,160 Speaker 1: far as not getting a lot of push up the middle. 1146 00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:33,960 Speaker 1: So I think they were excited that he wasn't even 1147 00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,800 Speaker 1: better than it had been. So I think I just 1148 00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:39,480 Speaker 1: think they didn't have a good plan. I think they 1149 00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,280 Speaker 1: kind of panics. Talk a little bit about the relationship 1150 00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:45,040 Speaker 1: between John Gruden and Reggie McKenzie. Does it seem to 1151 00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:48,200 Speaker 1: be Are they of one mind in their philosophy about 1152 00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:51,239 Speaker 1: putting the team together. Yeah, it's tough. I think they 1153 00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,279 Speaker 1: get along. I think personality wise, they're both pretty easy 1154 00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,320 Speaker 1: going guys at times. But if you listen to what 1155 00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:58,960 Speaker 1: we're going on, and Gruden's been cutting all of Reggie's 1156 00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,040 Speaker 1: draft picks the last few year years and even in 1157 00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,840 Speaker 1: the press conference Sunday night, he tried to convey but 1158 00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,560 Speaker 1: there was a George decision to trade Mac and then 1159 00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:08,719 Speaker 1: when we asked him why would you why, why would 1160 00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,000 Speaker 1: you ever throw in the second round pick? He's like, 1161 00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:14,880 Speaker 1: as REGI you know, Reggie's call. So that was that 1162 00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,880 Speaker 1: wasn't great. I just think that it's probably a one 1163 00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,720 Speaker 1: year a one year in marriage and the regial move on, 1164 00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,919 Speaker 1: to my take, but it could be worse. And there's 1165 00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:25,480 Speaker 1: no like, I think they're not younging each other in 1166 00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,720 Speaker 1: the hallways. I think they both yeah, but they understand 1167 00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:31,000 Speaker 1: what's going on. There was Reggie's it was Reggie's call, 1168 00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,360 Speaker 1: and then that a scrudent's call. That's always tough to 1169 00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,800 Speaker 1: h to manage your way through that. There in transition 1170 00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,400 Speaker 1: a VIC glooming over it. It would seem everything with 1171 00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:42,360 Speaker 1: the Raiders is the Impendi moved to Las Vegas in 1172 00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,040 Speaker 1: a couple of years. I guess many of us thought, well, 1173 00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:46,640 Speaker 1: the Raiders are gonna do what they have to do 1174 00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:48,360 Speaker 1: to get a good team together so that they can 1175 00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:50,720 Speaker 1: go and succeed run away in Las Vegas. But this 1176 00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,480 Speaker 1: would seem to short circuit that approach, doesn't it? This move, 1177 00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:56,680 Speaker 1: this trade, it sure does. I mean Mark Davis said 1178 00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:58,560 Speaker 1: his goals went through the bowl for the fans in 1179 00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:01,320 Speaker 1: Oakland and Rudin for the same thing. Ridden had a 1180 00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:04,120 Speaker 1: party for fans at Rickie Sports Bar here and at 1181 00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,360 Speaker 1: one point it says we're gonna Ben clear back back 1182 00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,560 Speaker 1: and fans had a huge roar. So, yeah, this does 1183 00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:11,760 Speaker 1: not seem to drive with that message. I think you're 1184 00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:13,439 Speaker 1: looking at it, and they probably are, and you're looking 1185 00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:16,160 Speaker 1: towards Vegas and getting you know, those draft picks in 1186 00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:18,800 Speaker 1: the next couple of years and more center kept space, 1187 00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:21,520 Speaker 1: brings more free agents, so I'm not sure you can 1188 00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:23,920 Speaker 1: say they're trying to win, you know, this year. You know. 1189 00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,959 Speaker 1: One of the things also talk a little bit about 1190 00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,400 Speaker 1: their draft class and what they've done through training camp 1191 00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:32,040 Speaker 1: that a lot of people were a little scratching their 1192 00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,520 Speaker 1: heads over their draft class and some of the picks 1193 00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,240 Speaker 1: they made and trying to find an overall plan. What's 1194 00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:40,040 Speaker 1: the vibe been about the draft pack, draft picks and 1195 00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:44,120 Speaker 1: how they performed. It's really positive. Over the three guys 1196 00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:47,439 Speaker 1: in defense, they got PJ. Hall in second round, Arden 1197 00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:50,160 Speaker 1: Key pass rusher in the third round, the more Hurst 1198 00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,000 Speaker 1: saw all the way down to the fifth round. Because 1199 00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,520 Speaker 1: it is heart condition, these in fine health wise, and 1200 00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:56,560 Speaker 1: all three of those guys have shown the guy on 1201 00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:59,760 Speaker 1: something extra the little juice there, and Peter Hall got 1202 00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:02,120 Speaker 1: some inside none Key looks like he has the moves, 1203 00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:04,400 Speaker 1: are ready to least get to the quarterback. You know, 1204 00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,600 Speaker 1: three downs if you have a chance. So I had 1205 00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:08,800 Speaker 1: those three guys. Everyone's pretty high in those three guys 1206 00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,480 Speaker 1: as far as the rest of it. And Colton Miller 1207 00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,200 Speaker 1: they're gonna play him with left tackle. I'm as how 1208 00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:15,760 Speaker 1: its gonna go. As they're saying all the right things, 1209 00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:18,320 Speaker 1: they're trying to build them up, but I'm not sure 1210 00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:20,680 Speaker 1: if Colton Mill hasn't be good ensta the shoe really 1211 00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:23,240 Speaker 1: to keep their card of trouble. So that's that's a 1212 00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:25,600 Speaker 1: big one. It's not a big question mark for the season. 1213 00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,080 Speaker 1: I think where does AJ mccern right now on the 1214 00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:30,120 Speaker 1: Raiders depth chart? And what did you make of that 1215 00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:34,920 Speaker 1: kind of swap out EJ. Manual for AJ mccern. Yeah, 1216 00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:38,160 Speaker 1: he's the only guy. He's only got they had. They 1217 00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,840 Speaker 1: cut both kind of Cook and EJ. Manual, which wasn't 1218 00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:42,800 Speaker 1: too big a shock as you could in trying and 1219 00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,040 Speaker 1: look at good and buy language, and they both were 1220 00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:48,200 Speaker 1: very good pre season. A. G. Manual had a nice 1221 00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,400 Speaker 1: game in the finale, but it doesn't mean much a 1222 00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:52,720 Speaker 1: plan against guys who got coming to the league. So 1223 00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:54,840 Speaker 1: I think I'm good and didn't buy into that performance 1224 00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,640 Speaker 1: obviously him. I just think mccaren is a guy who's 1225 00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:01,520 Speaker 1: succuessing samiliarity with comp in Cincinnati Cooper from Alabama, and 1226 01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:04,360 Speaker 1: I guess if he was better than the two guys 1227 01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,000 Speaker 1: I had, which this Matt saying a lot, So I 1228 01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:09,000 Speaker 1: don't really have this problem with with that one. Okay, Hey, Vic, 1229 01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:10,720 Speaker 1: thanks for this, Thanks for joining us spending a few 1230 01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:13,160 Speaker 1: minutes with us. Good luck to have a great season yourself. 1231 01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:16,880 Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Vic Tayfer covers the Raiders in 1232 01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,960 Speaker 1: the NFL for the Athletic Bay Area website. He joined 1233 01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:22,840 Speaker 1: us on the subway Fresh sank Highline Subway Eat Fresh. 1234 01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:26,680 Speaker 1: That's a tough one, Steve, and I was reading Vic's 1235 01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:29,760 Speaker 1: article in the Athletic about the Gruden's Sunday night news 1236 01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:33,200 Speaker 1: conference after you know, the transactions had all been made, 1237 01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:35,920 Speaker 1: including the trade he brought. He reminded me about the 1238 01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:40,680 Speaker 1: second rounder going along the reporter that John Gruden apparently 1239 01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:42,800 Speaker 1: didn't know they had done that. Yeah, I don't know 1240 01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,000 Speaker 1: if that's the case. He didn't make vic didn't make 1241 01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:48,120 Speaker 1: it sound like that, but certainly well he said, Gruden said, 1242 01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:50,400 Speaker 1: what do you say? Gruden said, go ask Reggie about that. Yeah. 1243 01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:53,840 Speaker 1: That doesn't sound healthy out there, does it. And here's 1244 01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:55,480 Speaker 1: the thing, and you alluded to this a couple of 1245 01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:57,880 Speaker 1: years ago. I thought the Raiders were right on the 1246 01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,160 Speaker 1: cusp of Super Bowl contention, right. They go to the 1247 01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,000 Speaker 1: playoffs to get into the playoffs, and the Jack del 1248 01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:04,160 Speaker 1: Rio was their head coach, car gets hurt and that 1249 01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:07,320 Speaker 1: the kind of short circuited their ability to keep winning 1250 01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:09,080 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. But I thought the next year, meaning 1251 01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:10,880 Speaker 1: last year, they were going to be really good. That 1252 01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:13,880 Speaker 1: didn't happen. And now one of the you would think 1253 01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,400 Speaker 1: one of the building blocks of the enfranchise traded away 1254 01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:18,720 Speaker 1: for draft picks. It just doesn't. It doesn't add up. 1255 01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:21,720 Speaker 1: I don't get it. I think a lot of stuff 1256 01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,720 Speaker 1: that goes on in Oakland on the football field has 1257 01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:26,040 Speaker 1: a lot to do with the stuff that goes on 1258 01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:29,680 Speaker 1: off the football field. Like what I think the relationship 1259 01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:32,320 Speaker 1: between Reggie Mackenzie and John Gruden isn't everything it should be. 1260 01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:34,560 Speaker 1: I think John Ruden Gruden coming in on a ten 1261 01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:36,680 Speaker 1: year contract for one hundred million dollars out of the 1262 01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:39,600 Speaker 1: booth for ten years. I think that's a difficult transition 1263 01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:45,760 Speaker 1: for him to make. His success was measured in Tampa Bay. Yes, 1264 01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:47,600 Speaker 1: he did win a world championship. That was in his 1265 01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:51,400 Speaker 1: first year there with somebody else's players, And the longer 1266 01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:54,960 Speaker 1: he stayed there, the worse it got. He did not 1267 01:01:55,200 --> 01:02:00,200 Speaker 1: know how to put together a team for now because 1268 01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,080 Speaker 1: he you know, and he's been criticized for it. He 1269 01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:04,760 Speaker 1: brought you know, Jordy Nelson is out there. Jordy Nelson 1270 01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:08,160 Speaker 1: was used up in Green Bay and left an elite 1271 01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:11,280 Speaker 1: quarterback and that club didn't you know, they're trying to 1272 01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:15,280 Speaker 1: support Aaron Rodgers is the best they can in Green Bay, 1273 01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,200 Speaker 1: better than a quarterback in the league. I mean, Aaron 1274 01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:20,200 Speaker 1: Rodgers is going to get supported by that organization. And 1275 01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:22,640 Speaker 1: Jordy Nelson wasn't good enough to support that guy. So 1276 01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:25,680 Speaker 1: I don't know how they think he's gonna be able 1277 01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:28,160 Speaker 1: to support a guy like Derek Carr out in Oakland. 1278 01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,480 Speaker 1: It's this type of veteran player that John Gruden brings 1279 01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:34,240 Speaker 1: in that Justin doesn't seem to always have enough in 1280 01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:36,880 Speaker 1: the tank to contribute in the way the Gruden needs 1281 01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:38,400 Speaker 1: him to. And I think if you look at his 1282 01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:40,760 Speaker 1: history in Tampa Bay after he won that World championship, 1283 01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:44,760 Speaker 1: it disintegrated on him. And I think it was the 1284 01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:47,400 Speaker 1: way he handled his roster that was a large measure 1285 01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:49,760 Speaker 1: to it. To see a large reason for it. Look, 1286 01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:51,280 Speaker 1: I'm not a Raiders fan, but yeah, heat to see 1287 01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:53,920 Speaker 1: a team get close and then back up, and that's 1288 01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:57,040 Speaker 1: a big back up move to trade away Khalil Mack. Listen, 1289 01:02:58,120 --> 01:02:59,800 Speaker 1: Bill's fans know how hard it is to sit and 1290 01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:02,320 Speaker 1: watch all that stuff happen year after year after year. 1291 01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:04,760 Speaker 1: And the Raiders looked like they were, like you said, 1292 01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,560 Speaker 1: they're on the cusp of being good for a while 1293 01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:11,840 Speaker 1: with Khalil Mack and Derek Carr, and all of a 1294 01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:15,720 Speaker 1: sudden and once see it evaporated and that and they 1295 01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:17,560 Speaker 1: can't get it back. It just doesn't seem to be 1296 01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:19,720 Speaker 1: able to get it back. Hey, Hey, we're gonna get 1297 01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:21,440 Speaker 1: back to the Bills here. As we move along to 1298 01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:23,600 Speaker 1: the show. Coming up at two o'clock, Nathan Peterman will 1299 01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:26,560 Speaker 1: join us our Twitter poll deals with Nathan Peterman, and 1300 01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:29,000 Speaker 1: you're welcome to join in. How many games will Nathan 1301 01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:31,960 Speaker 1: Peterman start for the pills in twenty eighteen. Give us 1302 01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:33,560 Speaker 1: a call, let us know what you think. Eight oh 1303 01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:36,400 Speaker 1: three oh five fifty toll free from outside Buffalo one 1304 01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:39,520 Speaker 1: eight eight by fifty two five fifty vote in the 1305 01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:41,680 Speaker 1: poll right now on the poll with just under a 1306 01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:44,240 Speaker 1: thousand votes in on the poll right now, fifty one 1307 01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:46,520 Speaker 1: percent of you think you'll start somewhere between five and 1308 01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:49,520 Speaker 1: eight games, twenty seven percent of you say you think 1309 01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:53,040 Speaker 1: you'll start four or fewer games, and twenty two percent 1310 01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:55,640 Speaker 1: say nine or more. Give us your thoughts. Eight O 1311 01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:59,400 Speaker 1: three fifty twenty three one eight eight by fifty two 1312 01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:02,360 Speaker 1: five fifty From the tweet sheet. Thomas Derlac says my 1313 01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:05,560 Speaker 1: vote is five to eight, not because of performance, but 1314 01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:08,800 Speaker 1: due to injury concerns. O line play in the preseason 1315 01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:10,920 Speaker 1: is a great concern and would make it difficult for 1316 01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:13,560 Speaker 1: any quarterback to be effective. Let's hope day ball has 1317 01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:16,040 Speaker 1: a way to minimize the exposure of our quarterbacks. Yeah, 1318 01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:18,160 Speaker 1: we need to hope for that. I need to say 1319 01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:21,520 Speaker 1: this too, Steve. I think and look, I'm watched all 1320 01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:24,480 Speaker 1: four preseason games, so all the issues on the offensive 1321 01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:28,440 Speaker 1: line not overly impressive, particularly in the Cincinnati game. But 1322 01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:30,960 Speaker 1: I do think, you know, there's like a there's a 1323 01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:33,680 Speaker 1: little bit of an overreaction going on to how the 1324 01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:36,320 Speaker 1: Bills offensive line played in preseason. I see it. I 1325 01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:39,560 Speaker 1: see why, but I think, look, I also part of 1326 01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:43,080 Speaker 1: preseason where was the first half against Carolina. Offensive line 1327 01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:46,000 Speaker 1: looked really solid in that game with a variety of 1328 01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:51,320 Speaker 1: personnel packages, with up a quicker tempo to the offense. 1329 01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:53,520 Speaker 1: I do think they have answers to make that to 1330 01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:55,960 Speaker 1: not let that offensive line to stand out there and 1331 01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:58,280 Speaker 1: look as poorly as they played. I expect we'll see 1332 01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:00,960 Speaker 1: some of those some of those answers this Sunday against Baltimore. 1333 01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:03,280 Speaker 1: So I do think there's overreaction. I think it's like 1334 01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:05,440 Speaker 1: the house is burning down when people and it's always 1335 01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:07,520 Speaker 1: that way for fans when you watch the film and 1336 01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:09,960 Speaker 1: you get into it. You know, particularly as a team, 1337 01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:11,480 Speaker 1: when you know the ins and outs of what you're 1338 01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:13,760 Speaker 1: being asked to do. It's never as bad as it looks, 1339 01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:16,840 Speaker 1: you know on game day, and it's never as good 1340 01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:19,000 Speaker 1: as it looks. So as good as it looked against 1341 01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:21,280 Speaker 1: Carolina probably wasn't perfect, and as bad as it looked 1342 01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:24,040 Speaker 1: again even against Cleveland and the early going and against Cincinnati. 1343 01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:27,160 Speaker 1: It's not as bad as it looked there either. Certainly 1344 01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:29,680 Speaker 1: they were shuffling guys around on the interior the offensive 1345 01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:32,680 Speaker 1: line trying to find the right combination, and and Cincinnati 1346 01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:36,280 Speaker 1: game they played three different guys exactly. So it's never 1347 01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:38,720 Speaker 1: gonna be as bad as it seems. But let's face 1348 01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:41,080 Speaker 1: it too, it's it's for real, and they're gonna be 1349 01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:43,360 Speaker 1: playing against the very best that the Baltimore Ravens have 1350 01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:45,560 Speaker 1: to offer, So they're gonna have to play better than 1351 01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:48,560 Speaker 1: they did to be successful. And I think, and I 1352 01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:51,280 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a little bit of a roller coaster. 1353 01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:53,680 Speaker 1: They will play well for stretches during the game, and 1354 01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:56,200 Speaker 1: they'll probably get beat for stretches during the game. I 1355 01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:59,240 Speaker 1: just think based on preseason. Look, if they played the 1356 01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:01,400 Speaker 1: way they played in preseason the first few games, then 1357 01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:04,480 Speaker 1: you're concerns about offensive line are spot on. But I 1358 01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:06,560 Speaker 1: think it's a little early, a little bit early right 1359 01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:09,160 Speaker 1: now to be that concerned. Let's see how it plays 1360 01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:11,760 Speaker 1: out when the plays are real, when the players are real, 1361 01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:14,000 Speaker 1: when the schemes are in place, when their game planet 1362 01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:17,320 Speaker 1: against each other, when the personnel is set. Let's see 1363 01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:19,520 Speaker 1: how the offensive line looks in I'm not so concerned 1364 01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:22,600 Speaker 1: about how it looked against the Bengals or the Browns 1365 01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:24,960 Speaker 1: for that matter. A phone call here, Dennis on the 1366 01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:28,640 Speaker 1: line from Rochester, Dennis, Hello, you're on the air. I 1367 01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:31,720 Speaker 1: feel the same way there, because it does take time, 1368 01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:35,439 Speaker 1: and they've they've got a lot of replacements and they've 1369 01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:37,360 Speaker 1: got a lot of guys that they've got to try there, 1370 01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:41,040 Speaker 1: and so it's going to take a little time. And 1371 01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:44,640 Speaker 1: I think that I think that the quarterback of the 1372 01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:48,640 Speaker 1: future though, is the big thrower there. I think I 1373 01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:52,920 Speaker 1: think he's the guy that's going to be their quarterback eventually. Yeaah, 1374 01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:55,320 Speaker 1: I do too well. I think that's yeah. I think 1375 01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:59,959 Speaker 1: everybody agrees with you there. Yeah. I like Peter Mandy 1376 01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:03,280 Speaker 1: so the smart guy. He's a nice guy. I think 1377 01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:07,560 Speaker 1: he can do well and on most occasions, but they're 1378 01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:09,400 Speaker 1: definitely going to need a guy that can throw the 1379 01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:11,800 Speaker 1: wall down field because they've got to got to open 1380 01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:15,240 Speaker 1: up that secondary a little bit. And with a guy 1381 01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:19,000 Speaker 1: that can fire the wall that far and accurate, very accurate, 1382 01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:21,800 Speaker 1: with that's going to make a big difference in that offense. 1383 01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:24,280 Speaker 1: And before we get to Josh Allen and the difference 1384 01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:26,680 Speaker 1: he can provide. Thanks you for your call, Dennis. Before 1385 01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:29,600 Speaker 1: we get to that, what about how Nathan Peterman will 1386 01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:31,439 Speaker 1: help this offensive line look better? This is a question 1387 01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:33,240 Speaker 1: for him next hour. But when he joins us right, 1388 01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:37,800 Speaker 1: his quick release, his quick decision making more than his release, 1389 01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:40,400 Speaker 1: I think we'll go a long way towards helping the 1390 01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:42,760 Speaker 1: offensive line look more competent. I really do. I think 1391 01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:44,280 Speaker 1: he'll make a difference with it. I don't know what 1392 01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:46,480 Speaker 1: will happen. I don't know how much we'll get into it. 1393 01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:48,720 Speaker 1: But obviously, during a regular week, this is the day 1394 01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:51,200 Speaker 1: when the coaching staff installs a game plan and formulates 1395 01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:53,840 Speaker 1: what they're going to do against their opponent. And Peterman 1396 01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:56,480 Speaker 1: is in today presumably to be a part of that, 1397 01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:59,360 Speaker 1: and so Josh Allen will be in as well today. 1398 01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:03,200 Speaker 1: So don't know exactly what that's going to entail, but 1399 01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:05,919 Speaker 1: certainly they've got some ideas about what Nathan Peterman likes 1400 01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:07,400 Speaker 1: to do and what he's gonna want to do in 1401 01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:14,200 Speaker 1: this game plan. And I think Brian day Ball, Sean McDermott, Tully, 1402 01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:17,160 Speaker 1: you know, Castile, all these guys are gonna have a 1403 01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:19,840 Speaker 1: hand in what should be done against this Baltimore Raven 1404 01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:23,839 Speaker 1: defense that was really formidable last year, and the Buffalo 1405 01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:27,120 Speaker 1: Bills are They've more so than you or me or 1406 01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:28,840 Speaker 1: any of our fans know, they've got a handle on 1407 01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:30,680 Speaker 1: what their offensive line is gonna be able to do, 1408 01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:33,439 Speaker 1: and they're gonna have a confidence level as to what 1409 01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:36,760 Speaker 1: they can accomplish. And there's no doubt that they're gonna 1410 01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:39,080 Speaker 1: feel like their offensive line is skilled enough to give 1411 01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:41,200 Speaker 1: them enough time and enough pressure enough in the run 1412 01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:42,600 Speaker 1: game that they're gonna be able to put together a 1413 01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:45,679 Speaker 1: game plan that can win. It's not gonna be like, listen, 1414 01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:47,439 Speaker 1: we have no shot here. No, you know, it's not 1415 01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:49,479 Speaker 1: gonna be that Peterman. This is not who he is. 1416 01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:52,240 Speaker 1: He's not gonna, you know, seven step drops sit in 1417 01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:54,240 Speaker 1: the pocket wait for somebody to come open. That ball's 1418 01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:57,000 Speaker 1: coming out right with Nathan Peterman, more so than even 1419 01:08:57,040 --> 01:08:59,439 Speaker 1: would with Josh who's got a tremendous arm. The ball 1420 01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:02,640 Speaker 1: is coming out out on time with Nathan Peterman. That 1421 01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:05,160 Speaker 1: might be if you're you know, Sean was asked several 1422 01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:08,560 Speaker 1: times yesterday McDermott about the factors that went into the 1423 01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:12,200 Speaker 1: decision to start Nathan Peterman. You know, as you think 1424 01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:13,840 Speaker 1: about As I think about it today, I'm thinking maybe 1425 01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:16,040 Speaker 1: that's the reason number one, because we know the ball 1426 01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:18,120 Speaker 1: is coming out on time. He's not going to sit 1427 01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:20,879 Speaker 1: back there and and let our offensive line get exposed 1428 01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:23,400 Speaker 1: or let our offensive line look bad. The ball's coming 1429 01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:26,120 Speaker 1: out with Nathan. Yeah, And I like, I remember how 1430 01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:29,120 Speaker 1: optimistic we were after that first preseason game. The ball 1431 01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:32,519 Speaker 1: came out crisp. There was there was good cadence in 1432 01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:34,200 Speaker 1: and out of the huddle the ball. The ball was 1433 01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:37,320 Speaker 1: being snapped early in the play clock. They were running 1434 01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:41,000 Speaker 1: offensive substitutions on and off the field, and they got 1435 01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:45,360 Speaker 1: it done without making any mistakes. That's and I was 1436 01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:48,679 Speaker 1: surprised at how far along they were at that point 1437 01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:50,800 Speaker 1: of the preseason. It was really optimistic. And of course 1438 01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:53,040 Speaker 1: then they ran into some problems on the first couple 1439 01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:56,920 Speaker 1: of three or four series with Cincinnati. When when Cincinnati 1440 01:09:57,120 --> 01:10:00,519 Speaker 1: not Cincinnati, Cleveland, when Cleveland was rushing, you know they 1441 01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:03,640 Speaker 1: had Yeah, there was a bunch of exotic rushes in 1442 01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:07,640 Speaker 1: that Cleveland game right off, Yeah, Like right off the 1443 01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:10,479 Speaker 1: get go, they were rushing five guys. They were dropping 1444 01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:13,799 Speaker 1: defensive linemen out into coverage and bringing linebackers on x stunts, 1445 01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:16,160 Speaker 1: and they were bringing guys off the the two inside 1446 01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:18,760 Speaker 1: linebackers off the one side of the you know, they 1447 01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:21,080 Speaker 1: were looping all the way around outside the left tackle 1448 01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:24,080 Speaker 1: and dropping guys up. It was exotic, and you know 1449 01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:26,639 Speaker 1: they team just wasn't ready for and didn't certainly didn't 1450 01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:28,639 Speaker 1: have a game plan for it. Yeah, so you're gonna 1451 01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:32,160 Speaker 1: look bad. Plus the fact that Myles garrett Is is 1452 01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:34,720 Speaker 1: a really good pass rusher. He is really gifted. They 1453 01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:37,640 Speaker 1: do have some players that are talented at Cleveland, and 1454 01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:40,760 Speaker 1: you know, you put that coupled with the fact that 1455 01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:46,559 Speaker 1: Greg Williams wanted to reright you run. It looked good. Uh, 1456 01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:48,720 Speaker 1: you know, and you have a bad game. It's a 1457 01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:51,000 Speaker 1: recipe for disaster. All Right, we're gonna break. We got 1458 01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:52,560 Speaker 1: more to come. We lana here more from you to 1459 01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:55,040 Speaker 1: Nathan Peter and how many games does he start this 1460 01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:57,200 Speaker 1: year for the Bills? Take your best guests, give us 1461 01:10:57,240 --> 01:11:00,840 Speaker 1: a call. Eight fifty to three one eight eight five 1462 01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:03,599 Speaker 1: fifty two, five fifty. Peterman is going to be in studio, 1463 01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:05,679 Speaker 1: whether it's at two, We've got time to talk about 1464 01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:09,160 Speaker 1: him his twenty eighteen season. Your expectations for that. Also, 1465 01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:11,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk a little bit more about some of 1466 01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:13,639 Speaker 1: the players who are in for free agent workouts today 1467 01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:15,479 Speaker 1: with the Bills. All of that when we return One 1468 01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:17,759 Speaker 1: Bills Live from One Bill's Drive, and this is Buffalo 1469 01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:32,759 Speaker 1: Bills Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's five time verfee 1470 01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:36,120 Speaker 1: Steve Casker, coming to you live from our One Buffalo studio. 1471 01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:38,360 Speaker 1: It's a nice day in Argent Park, Steve, Right, beautiful, 1472 01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:40,800 Speaker 1: beautiful day. Every day is nice. And Ope, I haven't begun. 1473 01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:42,519 Speaker 1: I was going to check Baltimore weather today, but to 1474 01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:47,240 Speaker 1: figure I'd wait until Wednesday because it's too early. I'm 1475 01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:51,400 Speaker 1: slowly transitioning out of a preseason into a regular season mode. 1476 01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:55,599 Speaker 1: I am. But I told you today I was reading, 1477 01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:58,160 Speaker 1: you know, the ESPN had the Bills last ranked team. 1478 01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:01,519 Speaker 1: Had the caller earlier about power rankings are thirty first, 1479 01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:03,400 Speaker 1: and that kind of wears you down. And then I 1480 01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:05,840 Speaker 1: said to you, by Friday, I'll be like, we're going 1481 01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:09,559 Speaker 1: to because that's the way. That's the way I approach 1482 01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:13,240 Speaker 1: these things. Yeah, I'm the same way. I mean, I'm I'm, 1483 01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:15,519 Speaker 1: you know, polly positive when it comes to that kind 1484 01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:17,639 Speaker 1: of stuff. And I got more positive as the week 1485 01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:21,479 Speaker 1: rows along. Yeah, I'm I'm a little bit like the 1486 01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:24,479 Speaker 1: player I used to be, and that after the game 1487 01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:27,360 Speaker 1: is over, I tend not to fret over the bad 1488 01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:30,160 Speaker 1: stuff that happened because I know that, you know, you 1489 01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:32,800 Speaker 1: got another game, and as a player, you're always thinking, Okay, 1490 01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:34,960 Speaker 1: I get that, I know what happened to us there, 1491 01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:38,160 Speaker 1: and I know why it happened. We're gonna get better 1492 01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:40,200 Speaker 1: because of it. So here we go, We're gonna you know, 1493 01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:41,960 Speaker 1: we're not gonna let that happen to us again. We're 1494 01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:43,519 Speaker 1: gonna get better, that kind of thing. So you start 1495 01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:45,559 Speaker 1: thinking about the next one and you think more positive 1496 01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:47,680 Speaker 1: because of all the things you learned about the bad 1497 01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:51,639 Speaker 1: things that happened to you. So I'm I always project 1498 01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:55,200 Speaker 1: that onto the team and know that the players in 1499 01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:57,280 Speaker 1: the locker room believe they're gonna be good and they're 1500 01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:59,680 Speaker 1: gonna play well and they're gonna win. I think the 1501 01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:03,439 Speaker 1: bill roster is for the most part set. But reports 1502 01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:07,479 Speaker 1: about three visitors today free agents, three name visitors. Really, 1503 01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:11,280 Speaker 1: you got to say Paxton Lynch, Bschard, Perriman, and Nate 1504 01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:15,200 Speaker 1: Orchard the quarterback Packiston Lynch, former first rounder right released 1505 01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:17,280 Speaker 1: by Denver over the weekend Chad Kelly beat him out 1506 01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:20,080 Speaker 1: for a roster spot, reportedly in here today for a workout. 1507 01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:22,840 Speaker 1: The Bills don't really confirm workouts like that, and we 1508 01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:25,559 Speaker 1: won't know anything until they or if they sign one 1509 01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:29,240 Speaker 1: of these. I don't know what Paxton Lynch. Look, they 1510 01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:32,000 Speaker 1: only have two quarterbacks on the roster. Paston Lynch is 1511 01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:35,320 Speaker 1: not a you know, a veteran. Really, he's in his 1512 01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:38,200 Speaker 1: what third year in the league. I don't know what 1513 01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:40,120 Speaker 1: he could bring him, but they're taking a look. See you, 1514 01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:43,760 Speaker 1: I guess you give him credit for exhausting every past possibility. Huh. Well, 1515 01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:47,080 Speaker 1: Paxston Lynch is a you know, he's six seven, two 1516 01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:52,120 Speaker 1: hundred and forty pounds. And if there's one guy who 1517 01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:59,479 Speaker 1: maybe makes John Elway look like he's not he doesn't 1518 01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:02,400 Speaker 1: know what he's doing, his Packson Lynch because John always 1519 01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:04,840 Speaker 1: the guy who picked him, traded him away, remember, and 1520 01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:07,160 Speaker 1: then got him back in another trade the next year. 1521 01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:11,160 Speaker 1: Paxson Lynch the guy who cannot find his way. And 1522 01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:15,040 Speaker 1: you know, I just I don't I don't really buy it. 1523 01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:18,120 Speaker 1: I think the Bills are doing their due diligence. I 1524 01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:23,040 Speaker 1: don't really anticipate him being signed. It would take. There's 1525 01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:25,200 Speaker 1: no way he can get acclimated enough to contribute. I 1526 01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:27,439 Speaker 1: think he's just building a file on him now. The 1527 01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:30,280 Speaker 1: other two guys, Nate Orchard, Yeah, maybe I could see that. 1528 01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:32,679 Speaker 1: I like Nate Orchard. Watched him at He's the second 1529 01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:35,320 Speaker 1: round pick of the Browns a few years ago. He 1530 01:14:35,439 --> 01:14:37,439 Speaker 1: caught my attention to the Senior Bowl. The year he 1531 01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:39,720 Speaker 1: came out. I've always I've always thought he was good. 1532 01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:43,559 Speaker 1: Now he's a he's a type. He's a long armed, 1533 01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:46,360 Speaker 1: long leg type of guy, defensive man who could be 1534 01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:48,719 Speaker 1: an edge guy. And I thought he had some pretty 1535 01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:50,439 Speaker 1: good moments against the Bills a couple of weeks ago 1536 01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:52,840 Speaker 1: in preseason. As a matter of fact, he could be 1537 01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:55,120 Speaker 1: a good edge guy. Where does he fit into the 1538 01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:57,479 Speaker 1: bills roster plans? I don't know. I mean, I don't 1539 01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:00,120 Speaker 1: think there's anybody right now that you'd be looking to 1540 01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:04,080 Speaker 1: replace at that position anyway. I know they like Eddie Yarbrough. 1541 01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:07,400 Speaker 1: I think they want to keep Shack Lawson around, but 1542 01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:09,240 Speaker 1: I do think he's worth looking at them the three, 1543 01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:11,040 Speaker 1: he'd be the one that I think they might wind 1544 01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:14,599 Speaker 1: up being most interested. Even more so. See Breshad Perriman 1545 01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:16,240 Speaker 1: is the other guy that they're going to bring in. 1546 01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:18,400 Speaker 1: He's a wide receiver and given the Bills, you know, 1547 01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:22,120 Speaker 1: lack of proven guys at that spot, and you think 1548 01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:24,360 Speaker 1: Breshad Perriman might be a guy that they'd sign and 1549 01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:27,840 Speaker 1: has he proven though thirty three catches two years ago, 1550 01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:32,080 Speaker 1: three touchdowns and then eleven ten catches and eleven games 1551 01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:35,960 Speaker 1: last year, former first rounder. The Ravens needed wide receivers too, 1552 01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:38,120 Speaker 1: and they went out and signed three of them in 1553 01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:40,200 Speaker 1: free agency this year. That's what they thought of Brashad. 1554 01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:42,360 Speaker 1: They sat him down last year. He only had ten 1555 01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:44,880 Speaker 1: receptions and he didn't get a lot of opper opportunity. 1556 01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:48,000 Speaker 1: It'll be it would be interesting to see why that 1557 01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:51,760 Speaker 1: happened and what was happening in Baltimore is the reason 1558 01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:55,400 Speaker 1: why he wasn't more successful. So we'll keep an eye 1559 01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:57,040 Speaker 1: on this. If there are moves, we'll let you know 1560 01:15:57,080 --> 01:16:00,320 Speaker 1: as soon as we know. Um we anticipate that. This 1561 01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:02,719 Speaker 1: week we're gonna get Brandon Bean, the Bills general manager, 1562 01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:05,759 Speaker 1: on the show, and he'll if we have any developments 1563 01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:07,519 Speaker 1: along that front, we'll talk with him about that. But 1564 01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:12,560 Speaker 1: the reports are those three Rashon Perrimanum Paxton, Lynch and 1565 01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:16,040 Speaker 1: Nate Orchard. Those three in four visits and workouts with 1566 01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:19,200 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills today. Perriman at least worked out for 1567 01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:20,960 Speaker 1: the Jets as well, and I think Paxton Lynch worked 1568 01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:23,240 Speaker 1: out for somebody else too. Yeah. I don't know that 1569 01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:25,960 Speaker 1: we're the first people Paxton Lynch worked out for, but yeah. 1570 01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:30,519 Speaker 1: Our Twitter pull today deals with Nathan Peterman. How many 1571 01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:32,400 Speaker 1: games will they start? What do you think? Give us 1572 01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:34,599 Speaker 1: a call eight oh three, five fifty and toll free 1573 01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:37,960 Speaker 1: one eight eight eight by fifty two five fifty. John 1574 01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:41,439 Speaker 1: on the line from Tanawana. Hi, John, go ahead, Yeah, Murth, 1575 01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:45,040 Speaker 1: thanks for having me on. Sure if you're remember back 1576 01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:48,120 Speaker 1: in me when you had Donald Jones with you, I 1577 01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:50,679 Speaker 1: told you that I thought Peterman would be the starter. 1578 01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:52,479 Speaker 1: I've taken a lot of heat in the last six 1579 01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:56,320 Speaker 1: months from my friends and so associates, and uh, what 1580 01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:59,439 Speaker 1: I think is uh for that for saying that name. 1581 01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:02,000 Speaker 1: It had five interception so that Peterman we went on 1582 01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:05,479 Speaker 1: and talked about that. So my prediction with your question 1583 01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:10,000 Speaker 1: today is I believe Nate Peterson Peterman will be the 1584 01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:13,040 Speaker 1: starter for all sixteen games, and I believe he's going 1585 01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:16,040 Speaker 1: to develop into a franchise quarterback. Why do you say that? 1586 01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:18,920 Speaker 1: What do you see? I see that he's worked very hard, 1587 01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:22,160 Speaker 1: he's diligent. The coach last year showed, without a doubt 1588 01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:25,080 Speaker 1: he was for Peterman. He wanted Peterman all out, I think, 1589 01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:27,880 Speaker 1: and I think he showed it this year that he 1590 01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:29,800 Speaker 1: was in Peterman's corner, and I think he's on it 1591 01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:33,160 Speaker 1: even from his work ethic. All right, Yeah, it's a 1592 01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:36,439 Speaker 1: big statement, John, Yeah, it's a big statement. And I 1593 01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:38,240 Speaker 1: get it though, and I was with you. I could 1594 01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:41,759 Speaker 1: see that this coaching staff warmed up to Nathan Peterman 1595 01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:43,800 Speaker 1: last year in the preseason. They gave him that shot 1596 01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:45,639 Speaker 1: and it did not go well. They'd put him back 1597 01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:47,880 Speaker 1: on the bench and they let him incubate. But they 1598 01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:49,800 Speaker 1: knew what they had. They knew the kind of person 1599 01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:52,120 Speaker 1: he was. And when you get a guy like Nathan Peterman, 1600 01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:54,439 Speaker 1: you know one thing. He's always going to try and 1601 01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:56,880 Speaker 1: get better. He's always gonna work harder to get better. 1602 01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:58,840 Speaker 1: He's gonna do what it takes. And I think one 1603 01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:01,439 Speaker 1: of the things that gets lost in some players don't 1604 01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:03,240 Speaker 1: have the ability to look at themselves and say I 1605 01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:06,160 Speaker 1: need to get better at A and B and C 1606 01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:08,640 Speaker 1: and d the great ones can look at themselves and 1607 01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:11,320 Speaker 1: see their own flaws and they work hard to correct him. 1608 01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:12,880 Speaker 1: I think that's the kind of guy Nate Peterman is, 1609 01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:14,840 Speaker 1: and I think that's why the coaching staff has warmed 1610 01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:18,599 Speaker 1: to him. And let's face and I said this yesterday, 1611 01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:23,120 Speaker 1: how hard do you think it was for Nathan Peterman 1612 01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:27,600 Speaker 1: to win back the respect and admiration and the responsibility 1613 01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:30,559 Speaker 1: and the opportunity to get back on the field after 1614 01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:32,600 Speaker 1: what happened to him in his first start. And he 1615 01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:34,760 Speaker 1: did it. He did it. I think it says a 1616 01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:37,240 Speaker 1: lot about him. Thanks for your call. From the tweet 1617 01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:39,880 Speaker 1: sheet from Tiffany Daniels, we asked the question how many 1618 01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:43,000 Speaker 1: games will Nathan Peterman start in twenty eighteen, She responds, 1619 01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:44,880 Speaker 1: it depends on how the team looks after the Monday 1620 01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:47,720 Speaker 1: night game, which is mid season. If they're in the 1621 01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:50,320 Speaker 1: hunt and Nate is playing silent football, he gets the season. 1622 01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:52,639 Speaker 1: Hopefully that's the case. I think we're going to sneak 1623 01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:54,760 Speaker 1: up on the league this year. The organization as a plan, 1624 01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:58,120 Speaker 1: and we should trust the process. Somebody about trademark that 1625 01:18:58,200 --> 01:19:02,759 Speaker 1: trust the process. Process, Trust the process. And from Wandering 1626 01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:04,920 Speaker 1: Jack when in answer to the question how many games 1627 01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:07,400 Speaker 1: will Peterman start this year? He tweets in it really 1628 01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:10,680 Speaker 1: depends on how it goes early. If he keeps them 1629 01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:13,200 Speaker 1: at or near five hundred, he will continue to play 1630 01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:17,240 Speaker 1: until they are eliminated. If the team flounders and starts 1631 01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:19,400 Speaker 1: one and four, the coaches will be forced to make 1632 01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:22,560 Speaker 1: a change. My guess is Peterman is solid but unspectacular, 1633 01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:24,880 Speaker 1: and plays through the Pats game. That's mid season. Again, 1634 01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:28,040 Speaker 1: as Tiffany Daniel, I believe that's week nine. It's after 1635 01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:30,200 Speaker 1: a buy or before the buy one, two, three, four 1636 01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:33,240 Speaker 1: or five six, that is week eight. Week ate, Yep, yep, 1637 01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:36,840 Speaker 1: that's and that's that's all. This is conjecture, But you 1638 01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:38,960 Speaker 1: know you can. It's easy to jump through those mental 1639 01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:40,720 Speaker 1: hoops and put yourself in a spot where you can 1640 01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:43,320 Speaker 1: see all this stuff happening just the way you envision it. 1641 01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:47,799 Speaker 1: And I don't think Nate Peterman is going to embarrass 1642 01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:50,320 Speaker 1: himself at all. I think he'll have quit himself very well. 1643 01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:53,439 Speaker 1: I do think I see, like everybody else, he's limited physically. 1644 01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:55,719 Speaker 1: You know, he doesn't have Josh Allen arm, he doesn't 1645 01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:59,880 Speaker 1: have Aaron Rodgers arm. And let's face it, the often 1646 01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:01,640 Speaker 1: of line is going to force them to get rid 1647 01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:03,479 Speaker 1: of the ball quickly. They're gonna be limited and it's 1648 01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:05,880 Speaker 1: gonna be a question also if they're better, If the 1649 01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:08,080 Speaker 1: offensive line is better in the run game with Lashawn 1650 01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:11,559 Speaker 1: McCoy behind them, that's gonna make it easier on Nate 1651 01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:15,360 Speaker 1: Peterman to be successful throwing it, because defenses will obviously 1652 01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:18,080 Speaker 1: have to play them differently knowing they can run the football. 1653 01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:21,879 Speaker 1: So all this stuff remains to be seen. Kelvin Benjamin 1654 01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:23,720 Speaker 1: is They're still their go to guy. He's the only 1655 01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:26,000 Speaker 1: guy the Bills have who you can kind of make 1656 01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:29,479 Speaker 1: the case for he's open even if he's not open, 1657 01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:32,160 Speaker 1: because he's that type of receiver. He's big, he can 1658 01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:34,559 Speaker 1: body guys off the ball, and Nate Peterman can put 1659 01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:38,160 Speaker 1: it in a spot where only Benjamin can catch, and 1660 01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:40,040 Speaker 1: he can do it easier than he can with a 1661 01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:45,280 Speaker 1: guy that's five ten instead of six five. So Benjamin 1662 01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:47,360 Speaker 1: is the right kind of receiver for a guy like 1663 01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:51,160 Speaker 1: Nate Peterman to throw too. You don't need a four 1664 01:20:51,240 --> 01:20:54,400 Speaker 1: two speed demon with Nate Peterman because he's gonna outrun 1665 01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:59,240 Speaker 1: his arm. So if you've got a good scheme, if 1666 01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:02,240 Speaker 1: they're running game, and can work well. Nathan Peterman is 1667 01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:04,880 Speaker 1: going to be all the quarterback this team needs to 1668 01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:07,080 Speaker 1: win games, but all those things have to be in place, 1669 01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:09,000 Speaker 1: and that says nothing about the other side of the 1670 01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:11,600 Speaker 1: ball in defense. This is an interesting Twitter response to 1671 01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:13,840 Speaker 1: our question how many games will Peterman start this year? 1672 01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:17,800 Speaker 1: From Mets? From Bills and Mets Fan. Peterman has a 1673 01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:19,800 Speaker 1: great attitude, but he just does not have the talent 1674 01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:22,040 Speaker 1: to match. He writes, before too long, It's going to 1675 01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:25,280 Speaker 1: be Josh's team to run anything after Game four is 1676 01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:28,400 Speaker 1: a bonus with Nathan Peterman. I gotta think about that. 1677 01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:30,160 Speaker 1: I don't know about that, but it leads me to 1678 01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:32,439 Speaker 1: this question, Steve, for you and for us to bounce around. 1679 01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:35,599 Speaker 1: So Sean McDermott has a plan, had a plan all 1680 01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:38,120 Speaker 1: preseason for quarterbacks and who to play and how to 1681 01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:40,640 Speaker 1: play him, and wound up with Peterman as his I 1682 01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:42,759 Speaker 1: guess logical choice to be the start of the Sunday 1683 01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:47,200 Speaker 1: Does Sean mcdermot's plan for quarterbacks extend into the regular season? 1684 01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:49,519 Speaker 1: In other words, and Bill's Mets Fan got me thinking 1685 01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:52,559 Speaker 1: about this. Did the Bills does McDermott does being does 1686 01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:55,160 Speaker 1: a dable? Do they have a number of games in 1687 01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:57,920 Speaker 1: mind when they say, Okay, now we're ready to make 1688 01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:00,080 Speaker 1: the transition. I don't know about that. I don't know 1689 01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:03,240 Speaker 1: that they do. I think the plan is flexible enough 1690 01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:06,760 Speaker 1: to adapt that. If Peterman's going well, the team's going well, 1691 01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:09,240 Speaker 1: we're staying there, or if it's not going well, we'll 1692 01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:12,320 Speaker 1: make the switch to three games. I just my question 1693 01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:14,320 Speaker 1: for you is just as a discussion point. I don't 1694 01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:16,439 Speaker 1: need a definitive answer here, But do you think the 1695 01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:18,599 Speaker 1: quarterback plan that's been in place here for the last 1696 01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:21,240 Speaker 1: several months extends into the regular season. Do they have 1697 01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:24,000 Speaker 1: a number of games in mind that they want Peterman 1698 01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:28,880 Speaker 1: to start before they even consider Josh Owen. No, no, no, 1699 01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:31,720 Speaker 1: they don't have a plan like that. What's the plan. 1700 01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:33,760 Speaker 1: The plan is to play the guy that gives them 1701 01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:36,240 Speaker 1: the best chance to win until it makes sense not to. Okay, 1702 01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:39,280 Speaker 1: I believe Peter Peterman is going to play even if 1703 01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:42,360 Speaker 1: they're oh and four. If Peterman's throwing for respectable yards, 1704 01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:44,160 Speaker 1: he's not turning it over, He's doing everything they need 1705 01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:47,240 Speaker 1: him to do. They're not gonna take him out unless 1706 01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:49,400 Speaker 1: he deserves to be benched. I mean this is they 1707 01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:51,800 Speaker 1: didn't take Tyrod Taylor out of the game last year 1708 01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:53,599 Speaker 1: until he threw for fifty six yards in a game. 1709 01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:56,400 Speaker 1: I mean, that's they're gonna play the guy that gives 1710 01:22:56,439 --> 01:22:58,120 Speaker 1: them the best chance to win until it makes sense 1711 01:22:58,240 --> 01:23:01,400 Speaker 1: not to. And if that comes Josh Allen and Nate 1712 01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:06,880 Speaker 1: Peterman is has played, well, why would they take that 1713 01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:09,320 Speaker 1: guy out? I mean, unless Nate Peterman is the guy 1714 01:23:09,439 --> 01:23:12,479 Speaker 1: that consistently is the reason they're getting beat, He's not 1715 01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:14,960 Speaker 1: coming out. He's not coming out. And I was I 1716 01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:18,559 Speaker 1: was reminded too when we were talking about, uh, Packison 1717 01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:21,360 Speaker 1: Lynch the quarterback I was saying that got traded to 1718 01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:25,040 Speaker 1: and from and Alway brought was brock Osweiler, and somebody correct, 1719 01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:27,640 Speaker 1: may I appreciate it, it was brock Oswyler. I did 1720 01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:31,360 Speaker 1: read an article though that somebody said Packison Lynch was 1721 01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:37,760 Speaker 1: the was the Bellweather as to whether John Elway knew 1722 01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:39,720 Speaker 1: what he was doing with quarterbacks after all, because he, 1723 01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:41,560 Speaker 1: you know, because of Chad Kelly and all of that. 1724 01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:44,439 Speaker 1: So it depends on who you read. But uh, yeah, 1725 01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:47,360 Speaker 1: I got that wrong between brock Osweiler and Packison Lynch. 1726 01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:52,880 Speaker 1: But that's you talk about these quarterbacks. You and Sean 1727 01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:54,680 Speaker 1: McDermott said it in the lead up when they were 1728 01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:56,479 Speaker 1: still trying to decide who their starter was going to be, 1729 01:23:56,560 --> 01:23:58,680 Speaker 1: when AJ McCarron was here, and when Josh Allen was 1730 01:23:58,680 --> 01:23:59,880 Speaker 1: in the mix, he said, listen, we all know what 1731 01:23:59,920 --> 01:24:02,080 Speaker 1: it looks like, we all know what it feels like. 1732 01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:04,639 Speaker 1: If the quarterback is not the reason you're getting beat, 1733 01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:08,320 Speaker 1: you don't change that guy out until the circumstances changed 1734 01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:10,960 Speaker 1: to such a degree that it makes it impossible to 1735 01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:14,160 Speaker 1: keep him in. And let's face it, Josh Allens and 1736 01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:17,240 Speaker 1: his draft position and his physical abilities are a big 1737 01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:20,000 Speaker 1: factor in that decision. All right, Hey, before we go 1738 01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:23,559 Speaker 1: to break, time to recognize the AD Pro Sports High 1739 01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:25,759 Speaker 1: School Coaches of the Week for this week. High school 1740 01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:28,000 Speaker 1: football started last week. Did you flip your coinity store 1741 01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:30,360 Speaker 1: Friday night? I did? How did that go? Easter? And 1742 01:24:30,479 --> 01:24:34,960 Speaker 1: the corn flip went? Fine? Who was a Frontier one? Okay? 1743 01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:37,920 Speaker 1: They squeaked it out? Okay. High school football started last 1744 01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:39,600 Speaker 1: week here in Western New York, and we got the 1745 01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:41,720 Speaker 1: AD Pro Sports High School Coach of the Week to 1746 01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:44,960 Speaker 1: recognize every Tuesday, the Section six Coach of the Week 1747 01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:47,680 Speaker 1: from the Buffalo area. It is Eric Valley of the 1748 01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:50,160 Speaker 1: Madonna Mustangs. He led the Mustangs to a hard fought 1749 01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:53,320 Speaker 1: fourteen to twelve win over Depew an opening week. Madonna 1750 01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:56,120 Speaker 1: went into the game which is seventeen eligible players because 1751 01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:59,880 Speaker 1: of injuries in preseason. They came from behind to beat Depew. 1752 01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:03,479 Speaker 1: Big win for Medinah and congratulations to coach Eric Valley. 1753 01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:07,200 Speaker 1: Sections five The Rochester Area. The AD Pro Sports High 1754 01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:10,799 Speaker 1: School Coach of the Week. Dave Marine of Wayne Central 1755 01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:13,040 Speaker 1: led the Wayne Eagles to a thirty five thirty four 1756 01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:15,680 Speaker 1: overtime win over East Rochester. They were up at the 1757 01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:18,840 Speaker 1: half and up was seven by seven points three minutes 1758 01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:21,360 Speaker 1: left on the third quarter. East Rochester took a lead 1759 01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:23,280 Speaker 1: and then Wayne Wayne Central I had to come back 1760 01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:26,040 Speaker 1: and win it in overtime. Dave Marine of Wayne Central 1761 01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:28,200 Speaker 1: the AD Pro Sports High School Coach of the Week. 1762 01:25:28,240 --> 01:25:30,519 Speaker 1: In Section five, Steve and I back with Moore. One 1763 01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:33,040 Speaker 1: Bill's Live presented by Kalata Hell from One Bill's Drive. 1764 01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:49,120 Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Arks you very question for you, 1765 01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:51,479 Speaker 1: Let's hear it. I wrote a piece. I think it's 1766 01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:53,640 Speaker 1: up on the website now top storylines. It's sort of 1767 01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:56,680 Speaker 1: a preview of the week. What's coming up this week 1768 01:25:56,720 --> 01:25:58,200 Speaker 1: what to look at, and I went to Nathan peterm 1769 01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:00,360 Speaker 1: is going to join this a minute or two. Obviously 1770 01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:03,800 Speaker 1: that's number one storyline Joe Flacco. But I want to 1771 01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:06,840 Speaker 1: ask you about Shady. We never think about Lashawn McCoy, right. 1772 01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:10,680 Speaker 1: He played thirteen snaps in preseason, which is why we 1773 01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:13,320 Speaker 1: don't think about it much. Played as it sounds like 1774 01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:16,240 Speaker 1: a lot to me too much. Here's the question, sound 1775 01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:17,800 Speaker 1: like I didn't think I think he was in there 1776 01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:20,600 Speaker 1: for thirteen snaps, age thirty. We know that he is 1777 01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:23,519 Speaker 1: one thousand, nine hundred eight yards away from twelve thousand 1778 01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:27,880 Speaker 1: career rushing yards. Thirteen of sixteen running backs in Pro 1779 01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:30,599 Speaker 1: football history of the sixth let me put it this way. 1780 01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:32,599 Speaker 1: If the sixteen running backs in pro football history, you'll 1781 01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:35,280 Speaker 1: get to twelve thousand or more yards. Thirteen of them 1782 01:26:35,320 --> 01:26:36,960 Speaker 1: are in the Pro Football of Fame. We know that's 1783 01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:38,840 Speaker 1: big for McCoy. He's talked about that a little bit. 1784 01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:41,080 Speaker 1: By the way, some of the other thirteen they're still active. 1785 01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:44,040 Speaker 1: But here's the question. Is he gonna make it nineteen 1786 01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:46,720 Speaker 1: hundred eight yards away from twelve thousand yards. He's thirty 1787 01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:49,639 Speaker 1: years old. He got like eleven hundred yards Shady didn't 1788 01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:51,920 Speaker 1: last year, and about a thousand yards a year before that. 1789 01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:54,519 Speaker 1: So he's averaging over the last three years, averaging just 1790 01:26:54,680 --> 01:26:58,439 Speaker 1: under a thousand yards per season. Nineteen hundred eight yards 1791 01:26:58,479 --> 01:27:01,320 Speaker 1: away thirty years old, he would need to play two 1792 01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:03,679 Speaker 1: or three Do you think he'll make twelve thousand yards? 1793 01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:05,960 Speaker 1: What do you think? I do you do? I do 1794 01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:08,200 Speaker 1: think he'll make it. It's gonna be clouds though, right, Yeah, 1795 01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:10,120 Speaker 1: it'll be close. I mean it's gonna be one of 1796 01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:12,400 Speaker 1: those he's gonna make. He's gonna get twelve thousand and 1797 01:27:12,520 --> 01:27:17,120 Speaker 1: one yard. I do think he will. I think he's 1798 01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:19,320 Speaker 1: in the right spot to do it. Yeah, he's at 1799 01:27:19,360 --> 01:27:22,160 Speaker 1: a place where he's still their best offensive player, most 1800 01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:24,920 Speaker 1: reliable guy. He's still gonna get to touch the ball 1801 01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:30,000 Speaker 1: twenty to twenty five times a game. And I think 1802 01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:31,960 Speaker 1: he is gonna get enough touches and he you know, 1803 01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:33,960 Speaker 1: the thing about him is and the thing that makes him, 1804 01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:38,200 Speaker 1: the thing that overwriting factor that makes me say yes 1805 01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:40,320 Speaker 1: to the fact that he's gonna get enough touches to 1806 01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:43,760 Speaker 1: get twelve thousand, is that his ability to dodge the 1807 01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:46,080 Speaker 1: big hit. Yeah. I don't want to be you know 1808 01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:48,880 Speaker 1: knock on Wood. I mean, the guy just doesn't seem 1809 01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:53,160 Speaker 1: to ever get hit hard. He's got such vision, such balance, 1810 01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:56,920 Speaker 1: and he does avoid hits. And he's not those guys, 1811 01:27:57,000 --> 01:27:59,120 Speaker 1: one of those macho guys is gonna take on guy 1812 01:27:59,160 --> 01:28:02,479 Speaker 1: he goes down on when he's himmed in. He We've 1813 01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:05,479 Speaker 1: all seen it. He ducks down, kind of lunges forward, 1814 01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:07,360 Speaker 1: gets that last little bit and then tucks up and 1815 01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:11,040 Speaker 1: you know, gets touched for the tackle. He has the 1816 01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:15,600 Speaker 1: ability to stay available as a running back, and that, 1817 01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:18,639 Speaker 1: to me, has been his best attribute as a Buffalo Bill, 1818 01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:22,360 Speaker 1: let alone the fact that he's he's the real deal 1819 01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:23,920 Speaker 1: when he's got the ball in his head. Going into 1820 01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:27,400 Speaker 1: his fourth season with the Bills. The first three were good. 1821 01:28:28,200 --> 01:28:31,719 Speaker 1: Eight hundred ninety five yards in twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, 1822 01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:35,200 Speaker 1: I misspoke, twelve hundred yards rushing. Last year, eleven hundred 1823 01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:38,840 Speaker 1: yards rushing. So he's averaging, oh, he's averaging about eleven 1824 01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:41,599 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty yards per season over the last two 1825 01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:44,479 Speaker 1: years with the Bills. He needs nineteen hundred yards to 1826 01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:47,880 Speaker 1: get to twelve thousand yards. Gotta stay healthy, but you 1827 01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:50,400 Speaker 1: know what he has. He missed one game two years ago. 1828 01:28:50,520 --> 01:28:54,799 Speaker 1: He missed six games in two fifteen. I mean, something's 1829 01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:57,040 Speaker 1: gonna have to Look. What we're looking for is more 1830 01:28:57,040 --> 01:28:58,680 Speaker 1: of the same for McCoy, both the bills from the 1831 01:28:58,680 --> 01:29:01,400 Speaker 1: standpoint of production to start winning games and for his 1832 01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:04,760 Speaker 1: own personal goals, right, twelve thousand yards, more of the same. 1833 01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:07,080 Speaker 1: Just do another year like he did last year, Maybe 1834 01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:08,560 Speaker 1: get a year and a half, two years like he 1835 01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:10,720 Speaker 1: has had the last couple of years. Absolutely that can 1836 01:29:10,760 --> 01:29:13,000 Speaker 1: be done. Thing as possible. I think he, Like I said, 1837 01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:16,840 Speaker 1: the fact is it's his availability that's going to be 1838 01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:19,840 Speaker 1: the difference. If he's available, they're going to give him 1839 01:29:19,840 --> 01:29:22,559 Speaker 1: the football enough to get there, and that's that's going 1840 01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:25,360 Speaker 1: to be the big question mark. And as of now, 1841 01:29:25,439 --> 01:29:27,120 Speaker 1: there's no reason to think he's not going to get there. 1842 01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:29,559 Speaker 1: And I know it seems like a thirty years old. 1843 01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:34,360 Speaker 1: Two years seems like a long way out, but you know, 1844 01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:36,479 Speaker 1: he's been lucky here and I think he's with the 1845 01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:39,000 Speaker 1: right coaching staff now because every year they give him 1846 01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:41,599 Speaker 1: a new fresh body behind him. To this year, it's 1847 01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:44,680 Speaker 1: Chris Ivory and Marcus Murphy last and two years ago 1848 01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:48,000 Speaker 1: it was gillis Lee. Before that was Carlos Williams. And 1849 01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:53,719 Speaker 1: you know last year, who was the cadet traverse cadet 1850 01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:55,920 Speaker 1: last year. I mean, he's always had guys to share 1851 01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:57,920 Speaker 1: the load, but he's been the guy that carries it 1852 01:29:58,000 --> 01:30:00,040 Speaker 1: the most. And that's what you want to do. And 1853 01:30:01,080 --> 01:30:03,920 Speaker 1: I think he's in the exact right spot he needs 1854 01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:08,519 Speaker 1: to be at this point in time to spending another 1855 01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:10,800 Speaker 1: couple of years on this roster carrying the football and 1856 01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:13,960 Speaker 1: getting getting another two thousand plus yards. Talk about that. 1857 01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:15,639 Speaker 1: We talk about it. I talked about it. I wrote 1858 01:30:15,680 --> 01:30:18,200 Speaker 1: about it on our website, Buffalo bills dot com. Top 1859 01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:20,880 Speaker 1: storylines for the Bills opener at Baltimore. It is up 1860 01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:23,000 Speaker 1: right now. Let's squeeze in a quick call here, guys, 1861 01:30:23,120 --> 01:30:25,120 Speaker 1: been waiting for a half hour. Sean on the line 1862 01:30:25,160 --> 01:30:27,599 Speaker 1: from Dallas, Texas. Hi, Sean, Welcome to the show. How 1863 01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:31,960 Speaker 1: are you hey, guys, Thanks for taking my call. Steve. 1864 01:30:32,439 --> 01:30:35,360 Speaker 1: I met you in nineteen ninety seven at training camp. 1865 01:30:36,439 --> 01:30:39,160 Speaker 1: It was after you practice. You were one of the 1866 01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:41,719 Speaker 1: nicest guys. You took a picture with me and my friend. 1867 01:30:43,439 --> 01:30:45,200 Speaker 1: I never did get to share that with the best 1868 01:30:45,280 --> 01:30:48,160 Speaker 1: training camp memory was meeting you in person. You took 1869 01:30:48,240 --> 01:30:53,120 Speaker 1: time to take photo happening to you. I wanted to 1870 01:30:53,160 --> 01:30:56,720 Speaker 1: ask you about when the how much fly did you 1871 01:30:56,880 --> 01:31:02,600 Speaker 1: have in being a special team ace, what point of 1872 01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:06,200 Speaker 1: your career you know that that was your fame. And 1873 01:31:07,160 --> 01:31:09,559 Speaker 1: question was about the putter. No one's mentioned the putter 1874 01:31:09,680 --> 01:31:12,040 Speaker 1: that we signed. What do we know about this guy? 1875 01:31:13,520 --> 01:31:16,920 Speaker 1: Corey but Horkez Yeah, signed to the rosters Sunday. He 1876 01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:20,000 Speaker 1: spent the training camp with the Patriots, an undrafted rookie 1877 01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:23,000 Speaker 1: with the Patriots. Didn't kick in preseason. It's pretty obvious 1878 01:31:23,040 --> 01:31:25,559 Speaker 1: the Patriots did not want him to be noticed by 1879 01:31:25,600 --> 01:31:27,920 Speaker 1: anybody else. I haven't seen him yet. I hope to 1880 01:31:27,960 --> 01:31:29,760 Speaker 1: see him a little bit of practice as the week 1881 01:31:29,800 --> 01:31:32,439 Speaker 1: moves along. They must feel pretty good about Stephen. We 1882 01:31:32,520 --> 01:31:35,800 Speaker 1: talked yesterday about how he replaced Colton Schmidt on the roster. 1883 01:31:36,200 --> 01:31:38,160 Speaker 1: Best the best I want to get your take on this. 1884 01:31:38,280 --> 01:31:39,920 Speaker 1: The best I can guess is that they were looking 1885 01:31:39,960 --> 01:31:42,720 Speaker 1: for consistency from the punting spot that maybe they didn't 1886 01:31:42,720 --> 01:31:45,000 Speaker 1: feel like they were getting from Colton Schmidt. Yeah, and 1887 01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:49,080 Speaker 1: by Orkez is a guy whose reputation has him as 1888 01:31:49,120 --> 01:31:52,960 Speaker 1: a very big leg. He kicks it a long way. 1889 01:31:53,160 --> 01:31:55,360 Speaker 1: The thought is that the Patriots were trying to hide 1890 01:31:55,439 --> 01:31:57,840 Speaker 1: him on their practice squad because they've got a punter 1891 01:31:57,960 --> 01:32:00,000 Speaker 1: who's coming into a contract year now and they don't 1892 01:32:00,479 --> 01:32:01,960 Speaker 1: they want to overpay him, and they want to have 1893 01:32:02,040 --> 01:32:04,200 Speaker 1: a guy on the on the burner, on the back 1894 01:32:04,240 --> 01:32:07,240 Speaker 1: burner who they can bring in next year after the 1895 01:32:07,320 --> 01:32:10,880 Speaker 1: punters finished for them and uh not pay him a lot. 1896 01:32:11,680 --> 01:32:15,240 Speaker 1: And he's been acclimated for a year and uh they liked, 1897 01:32:15,439 --> 01:32:17,480 Speaker 1: you know, the strength of his leg and his consistency. 1898 01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:20,760 Speaker 1: So that alone told the Buffalo Bills that that may 1899 01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:22,400 Speaker 1: be a guy we want to look at, and certainly 1900 01:32:22,479 --> 01:32:24,880 Speaker 1: they did. They consistency, I think is the thing that 1901 01:32:24,960 --> 01:32:27,240 Speaker 1: they were looking to change here in Buffalo. And because 1902 01:32:27,320 --> 01:32:30,120 Speaker 1: Colton Schmidt had a big leg, but he had begun 1903 01:32:30,640 --> 01:32:32,080 Speaker 1: to be a little bit of a roller coaster and 1904 01:32:32,160 --> 01:32:34,040 Speaker 1: they didn't want to live with that. But bai Orca 1905 01:32:34,120 --> 01:32:36,479 Speaker 1: is supposed to be that guy. And your question Sean 1906 01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:39,400 Speaker 1: about you know, did I take pride and when did 1907 01:32:39,439 --> 01:32:41,360 Speaker 1: I finally realize that special team is going to be 1908 01:32:41,439 --> 01:32:44,320 Speaker 1: my thing? It was very early in my career here 1909 01:32:44,360 --> 01:32:47,320 Speaker 1: in Buffalo. They picked me up two cover kicks. Marv 1910 01:32:47,479 --> 01:32:49,559 Speaker 1: Levy took me out of my first or second week here, 1911 01:32:49,640 --> 01:32:52,160 Speaker 1: taught me out to block a punt. The very next game, 1912 01:32:52,200 --> 01:32:54,080 Speaker 1: I blocked my first punt as a Buffalo Bill, and 1913 01:32:54,120 --> 01:32:56,960 Speaker 1: I knew running off the field when when Marv gave 1914 01:32:57,040 --> 01:32:59,880 Speaker 1: me the eyes said, I knew I was this guy 1915 01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:02,120 Speaker 1: special teams. I was not going anywhere. I took great 1916 01:33:02,160 --> 01:33:05,320 Speaker 1: pride in being a Buffalo Bill. I took great pride 1917 01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:06,760 Speaker 1: and being a part of that team. It didn't matter 1918 01:33:06,840 --> 01:33:08,600 Speaker 1: what role I was in. I think I speak for 1919 01:33:08,640 --> 01:33:10,760 Speaker 1: a lot of the guys on those teams. It was 1920 01:33:10,880 --> 01:33:12,680 Speaker 1: great just to be on that team. Forget about what 1921 01:33:12,840 --> 01:33:15,240 Speaker 1: role you had. It wasn't about being a taking pride 1922 01:33:15,280 --> 01:33:17,439 Speaker 1: and being a great receiver, or taking pride and being 1923 01:33:17,479 --> 01:33:21,519 Speaker 1: a great special teams player or you know, linebacker, what 1924 01:33:21,600 --> 01:33:23,560 Speaker 1: have you. Was about being a great teammate and a 1925 01:33:23,640 --> 01:33:25,800 Speaker 1: great member of a great team. That that was what 1926 01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:27,800 Speaker 1: you took pride in. All right, Thanks for Sean, I 1927 01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:29,920 Speaker 1: appreciate it. I'm glad that you had a nice memory 1928 01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:33,639 Speaker 1: of me back in twenty one years ago. I remember 1929 01:33:33,680 --> 01:33:36,479 Speaker 1: twenty one years ago. Yeah, thanks for calling. We got 1930 01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:38,600 Speaker 1: more calls to come. We got Nathan Peterman going to 1931 01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:40,519 Speaker 1: join us. We believe in the next hour, so come 1932 01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:42,840 Speaker 1: on back for that. John Murphy, Steve Tasker, One Bills 1933 01:33:42,880 --> 01:33:45,800 Speaker 1: Live from One Bill's Drive and this is Buffalo Bill's Radio. 1934 01:33:57,360 --> 01:34:02,519 Speaker 1: Bills Radio Network Stories update. The update from One Bill's Drive. 1935 01:34:02,600 --> 01:34:04,439 Speaker 1: The Bills players with the day off back at work 1936 01:34:04,479 --> 01:34:06,519 Speaker 1: tomorrow as they get set to open the season in 1937 01:34:06,640 --> 01:34:10,000 Speaker 1: Baltimore against the Ravens one o'clock on Sunday. Player's day 1938 01:34:10,040 --> 01:34:12,920 Speaker 1: off today, returned to practice tomorrow. They are reportedly the 1939 01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:15,479 Speaker 1: Bills aren't working out three veterans today who were released 1940 01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:18,040 Speaker 1: over the weekend. One of them quarterback Paxton Lynch, former 1941 01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:20,519 Speaker 1: first rounder released by Denver. One of them wide receiver 1942 01:34:20,640 --> 01:34:23,920 Speaker 1: Brashod Perriman former first rounder released by Baltimore over the weekend, 1943 01:34:23,960 --> 01:34:27,679 Speaker 1: and the third defensivemen Nate Orchard, former second rounder released 1944 01:34:27,720 --> 01:34:30,880 Speaker 1: by Cleveland. No further updates on that. Pittsburgh Steelers want 1945 01:34:31,040 --> 01:34:33,000 Speaker 1: leamy On Bell to get back to work, and many 1946 01:34:33,080 --> 01:34:36,160 Speaker 1: of his teammates expect that he will. Bell has been 1947 01:34:36,200 --> 01:34:38,360 Speaker 1: a no show. Was a no show yesterday at the 1948 01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:41,280 Speaker 1: Steelers facility, even with a fourteen and a half million 1949 01:34:41,320 --> 01:34:46,519 Speaker 1: dollar franchise tender waiting for him. General manager Kevin Colbert 1950 01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:49,080 Speaker 1: said yesterday we're disappointed Bell has not signed this franchise 1951 01:34:49,160 --> 01:34:52,360 Speaker 1: tender Steelers center Marquise Pounce. He says he'll be here Wednesday. 1952 01:34:52,640 --> 01:34:54,960 Speaker 1: Count on it. Pounce, he said teammates are not concerned 1953 01:34:55,000 --> 01:34:57,519 Speaker 1: by Bell's absence. They know he'll show up ready to play. 1954 01:34:57,920 --> 01:35:01,160 Speaker 1: The Jets, one day after naming Sam darn their starting quarterback, 1955 01:35:01,200 --> 01:35:04,679 Speaker 1: added another quarterback to the practice squad, Davis Webb, former 1956 01:35:04,760 --> 01:35:07,040 Speaker 1: third round pick on the New York Giants in twenty seventeen, 1957 01:35:07,120 --> 01:35:09,720 Speaker 1: released Sunday by the Giants, went unclaimed and signed on 1958 01:35:09,880 --> 01:35:13,479 Speaker 1: with the New York Jets. Savers Prospects Challenge kicks off 1959 01:35:13,560 --> 01:35:17,240 Speaker 1: on Friday. Savers Bruins, Penguins, and Devil's Prospects are going 1960 01:35:17,320 --> 01:35:19,320 Speaker 1: to go head to head. It starts on Friday seven 1961 01:35:19,360 --> 01:35:21,760 Speaker 1: o'clock at Harbor Center, where the Savers up against New 1962 01:35:21,880 --> 01:35:26,040 Speaker 1: Jersey Sabers. Training camp opens next Thursday. Rick Patino says 1963 01:35:26,080 --> 01:35:28,360 Speaker 1: it is unlikely that he will ever return to coaching 1964 01:35:28,360 --> 01:35:31,880 Speaker 1: college basketball. He released a book entitled Patino My Story. 1965 01:35:32,080 --> 01:35:35,439 Speaker 1: When asked to expand about his future, Patino admitted he 1966 01:35:35,479 --> 01:35:38,160 Speaker 1: does not believe he will get a coaching job again. 1967 01:35:39,320 --> 01:35:42,160 Speaker 1: Is an FBI investigation in the college basketball led to 1968 01:35:42,240 --> 01:35:45,040 Speaker 1: his termination at Louisville, and Patino says it's unlikely that 1969 01:35:45,080 --> 01:35:47,479 Speaker 1: he gets to coach again. He is sixty five years old. 1970 01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:50,240 Speaker 1: He is denied knowledge of most of the transgressions that 1971 01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:52,960 Speaker 1: the FBI found at the University of Louisville. And then 1972 01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:55,599 Speaker 1: it's the update from One Bill's Drive, John Murphy Steve 1973 01:35:55,680 --> 01:35:58,519 Speaker 1: Casker in our One Buffalo studio off day for the players. 1974 01:35:58,560 --> 01:36:00,800 Speaker 1: Many players here, including our neck guest as he gets 1975 01:36:00,840 --> 01:36:03,639 Speaker 1: set to start the season as the Buffalo bill starting quarterback. 1976 01:36:03,760 --> 01:36:06,000 Speaker 1: Happy to have Nathan Peterman and studio with us. Hello, Nathan, 1977 01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:07,840 Speaker 1: thanks for coming by problem, Thanks for having I like 1978 01:36:07,840 --> 01:36:11,080 Speaker 1: your pull over. That's nice. It's pretty fair at that 1979 01:36:11,160 --> 01:36:14,479 Speaker 1: first store. Probably didn't get the company discount either, Yeah, 1980 01:36:14,680 --> 01:36:17,120 Speaker 1: something like that retail for that good store. We got 1981 01:36:17,200 --> 01:36:21,120 Speaker 1: over here. So today's usually Tuesday's usually a day off. 1982 01:36:21,160 --> 01:36:23,080 Speaker 1: Do quarterbacks ever take days off? Do you guys? You 1983 01:36:23,120 --> 01:36:24,880 Speaker 1: guys are in here all the time. Yeah, No, no 1984 01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:27,519 Speaker 1: day off in the NFL, that's for sure. Do you 1985 01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:29,680 Speaker 1: come in We were wondering in this and we're not 1986 01:36:29,680 --> 01:36:31,560 Speaker 1: going to ask for details, but do they have a 1987 01:36:31,640 --> 01:36:33,960 Speaker 1: game plan ready for you on Tuesday or by Tuesday 1988 01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:37,080 Speaker 1: night we do. And obviously this is a little bit 1989 01:36:37,120 --> 01:36:39,080 Speaker 1: different week just in the fact that you know, we've 1990 01:36:39,120 --> 01:36:40,720 Speaker 1: had a little bit more time to preparis since that 1991 01:36:40,840 --> 01:36:43,559 Speaker 1: last preseason game. But it's been good, you know, great 1992 01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:45,960 Speaker 1: to get a jump start on these guys, um talented 1993 01:36:46,040 --> 01:36:48,360 Speaker 1: defense and um good to get a jump start on 1994 01:36:48,560 --> 01:36:51,719 Speaker 1: what we're doing too, because that's really, you know, pretty important. 1995 01:36:51,880 --> 01:36:53,960 Speaker 1: And you roll into marow, you start with practice and 1996 01:36:55,320 --> 01:36:57,000 Speaker 1: you get this when you get the game print plan 1997 01:36:57,120 --> 01:37:00,200 Speaker 1: presented to you. Is it it's day day? Ball comes 1998 01:37:00,240 --> 01:37:01,920 Speaker 1: in and he says, you're down with you and Josh 1999 01:37:01,960 --> 01:37:05,200 Speaker 1: and anybody else in the room. Uh, nope, you know, 2000 01:37:05,280 --> 01:37:07,680 Speaker 1: we kind of keep it just QBS right now. And um, 2001 01:37:07,880 --> 01:37:09,640 Speaker 1: you know it's good. I mean, he's brainstorming back and 2002 01:37:09,720 --> 01:37:12,439 Speaker 1: forth with Hey, do you like this? Do you like that? Um? 2003 01:37:12,800 --> 01:37:15,120 Speaker 1: And it's good communication between both of us because that's 2004 01:37:15,280 --> 01:37:16,960 Speaker 1: you know, I think what's really important is, you know, 2005 01:37:17,000 --> 01:37:19,200 Speaker 1: we have to be an extension of him on that field. 2006 01:37:19,240 --> 01:37:21,880 Speaker 1: It's coming on tablet on your tablet, uh now. So 2007 01:37:22,040 --> 01:37:24,320 Speaker 1: we just usually come in, you know, and this has 2008 01:37:24,400 --> 01:37:26,479 Speaker 1: been different. Like I said, we've had some more days 2009 01:37:26,560 --> 01:37:28,640 Speaker 1: that you know, we could kind of talk about, you 2010 01:37:28,720 --> 01:37:30,240 Speaker 1: know what we like before we actually had to go 2011 01:37:30,280 --> 01:37:33,360 Speaker 1: out and practice, so back to Saturday or you know, 2012 01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:35,320 Speaker 1: all the way back. But it's it is it? In 2013 01:37:36,080 --> 01:37:38,640 Speaker 1: other words, I think it'd be really dramatic if the 2014 01:37:38,720 --> 01:37:40,880 Speaker 1: coach could walk in with the game plan and just 2015 01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:43,680 Speaker 1: go like, there it is. That's how we beat the room, right? 2016 01:37:43,840 --> 01:37:45,680 Speaker 1: Can they do that? Or is it tablet form? We 2017 01:37:45,720 --> 01:37:48,479 Speaker 1: don't quite get the book job like that unfortunately, but 2018 01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:51,519 Speaker 1: um yeah, they push it on tablet dream. We get 2019 01:37:51,560 --> 01:37:53,320 Speaker 1: the you know, the play sheet and then we just 2020 01:37:53,400 --> 01:37:55,280 Speaker 1: talk about it. Like I said, a communication is key. 2021 01:37:56,240 --> 01:37:58,040 Speaker 1: So you go through this last preseason, it's you and 2022 01:37:58,080 --> 01:38:01,240 Speaker 1: aj and Josh and hard to imagine. And you did 2023 01:38:01,280 --> 01:38:03,320 Speaker 1: this last year too. I mean, people forget you had 2024 01:38:03,320 --> 01:38:05,640 Speaker 1: a really nice preseason last year, which is why you 2025 01:38:05,840 --> 01:38:08,960 Speaker 1: end up being Tyrod's backup a year ago, had another 2026 01:38:09,080 --> 01:38:12,520 Speaker 1: nice preseason and that first game coming out against Carolina 2027 01:38:13,320 --> 01:38:15,719 Speaker 1: Murphin I've been talking about you guys had like twelve 2028 01:38:15,800 --> 01:38:18,680 Speaker 1: different personnel combinations. You changed it up every play. You 2029 01:38:18,760 --> 01:38:20,240 Speaker 1: came out very you seemed to go with a lot 2030 01:38:20,280 --> 01:38:23,960 Speaker 1: of pace, and you know, you ended up at the 2031 01:38:24,040 --> 01:38:26,320 Speaker 1: end of the preseason completing eighty percent of your passes 2032 01:38:26,360 --> 01:38:29,519 Speaker 1: throughout the three four games, and you really had to 2033 01:38:29,560 --> 01:38:31,439 Speaker 1: feel good about the performance you put out there, and 2034 01:38:31,439 --> 01:38:35,200 Speaker 1: obviously as a starter on opening day, the coaches agreed. Yeah, 2035 01:38:35,240 --> 01:38:37,800 Speaker 1: I mean it feels great. It's a great opportunity something 2036 01:38:37,840 --> 01:38:41,720 Speaker 1: I'm extremely thankful for a lot of good things I did, 2037 01:38:41,800 --> 01:38:43,400 Speaker 1: I feel, but a lot of things I could have 2038 01:38:43,479 --> 01:38:46,560 Speaker 1: grown from and I will grow from. Especially you know, 2039 01:38:46,600 --> 01:38:48,320 Speaker 1: I'm not much of a stats guy, so you know, 2040 01:38:48,400 --> 01:38:50,880 Speaker 1: I look into every play and you know how it 2041 01:38:50,920 --> 01:38:53,600 Speaker 1: could be better no matter what the stat says. So 2042 01:38:53,920 --> 01:38:55,960 Speaker 1: there's always things to get better at. And that's what 2043 01:38:56,040 --> 01:38:58,040 Speaker 1: I'm focusing on now. Nathan. Let me get you back 2044 01:38:58,040 --> 01:39:00,040 Speaker 1: to the Carolina game and how well that started, not 2045 01:39:00,160 --> 01:39:03,920 Speaker 1: just for you, but for the offense in general. And 2046 01:39:04,040 --> 01:39:06,439 Speaker 1: why did was there a way that you guys played 2047 01:39:06,479 --> 01:39:08,080 Speaker 1: there that you kind of went away from as far 2048 01:39:08,160 --> 01:39:10,320 Speaker 1: as the rest of the preseason In other words, the 2049 01:39:10,479 --> 01:39:14,439 Speaker 1: pace that Steve mentioned, the different the varying personnel packages. 2050 01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:16,200 Speaker 1: It seemed like we saw that that game and then 2051 01:39:16,240 --> 01:39:18,120 Speaker 1: we didn't really see much of it after that. Yeah, 2052 01:39:18,520 --> 01:39:21,680 Speaker 1: I'm not sure, to be honest, I guess it's a 2053 01:39:21,840 --> 01:39:24,680 Speaker 1: ways back to think about. You know, you know we've 2054 01:39:24,720 --> 01:39:27,200 Speaker 1: had we had success. We were kind of rolling in 2055 01:39:27,280 --> 01:39:29,320 Speaker 1: a pace and that's important. I think we've talked about 2056 01:39:29,360 --> 01:39:32,160 Speaker 1: that of how important it is just to have good 2057 01:39:32,200 --> 01:39:34,080 Speaker 1: pace out of the huddle, you know, have that operation 2058 01:39:35,439 --> 01:39:38,400 Speaker 1: crisp and clean, and that's something we're focused on practice 2059 01:39:38,439 --> 01:39:40,519 Speaker 1: this week, especially going in that opening day. We want 2060 01:39:40,560 --> 01:39:42,439 Speaker 1: to be clean and be able to just go out 2061 01:39:42,439 --> 01:39:44,320 Speaker 1: there and execute. It wasn't simple. I mean you were 2062 01:39:44,360 --> 01:39:47,720 Speaker 1: switching to formations almost every play in that game, Yeah, 2063 01:39:47,880 --> 01:39:49,639 Speaker 1: the first half of it. And I mean I think 2064 01:39:49,680 --> 01:39:51,800 Speaker 1: that's what Davil does a great job too of is 2065 01:39:52,120 --> 01:39:55,280 Speaker 1: you know, maybe to the outside the naked eye, maybe 2066 01:39:55,320 --> 01:39:57,840 Speaker 1: it doesn't it looks super complicated, but you know, he 2067 01:39:57,920 --> 01:39:59,439 Speaker 1: does a good job of just keeping it simple for 2068 01:39:59,560 --> 01:40:02,160 Speaker 1: us where we've you know, repped this so hard, um 2069 01:40:02,240 --> 01:40:04,559 Speaker 1: all the way going back to March Um. So now 2070 01:40:04,640 --> 01:40:07,439 Speaker 1: it's just easy for us. You know, formations might change, 2071 01:40:07,520 --> 01:40:09,479 Speaker 1: but um, for the most part, we've got a good 2072 01:40:09,600 --> 01:40:11,800 Speaker 1: understanding of what he wants to do. What about the 2073 01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:13,280 Speaker 1: rest of your day today, I mean you come in 2074 01:40:13,360 --> 01:40:15,680 Speaker 1: getting ready for the game plan. What's what time were 2075 01:40:15,760 --> 01:40:17,400 Speaker 1: you in today, What's what's the next thing on your 2076 01:40:17,479 --> 01:40:21,320 Speaker 1: Ginda f you this all important radio Internet. Yeah, so, uh, 2077 01:40:21,439 --> 01:40:23,320 Speaker 1: you know, Tuesdays, I usually like to get in here 2078 01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:26,200 Speaker 1: relatively early, just to kind of get it. It is 2079 01:40:26,240 --> 01:40:28,960 Speaker 1: our day off technically, so I'd like to get in early, 2080 01:40:29,120 --> 01:40:32,040 Speaker 1: and um, try to get things done with um, you know, 2081 01:40:32,080 --> 01:40:35,559 Speaker 1: attack the film of what I want to see and um, 2082 01:40:35,800 --> 01:40:37,880 Speaker 1: you know, maybe talk to receivers. And we've had a 2083 01:40:37,920 --> 01:40:41,200 Speaker 1: good you know QB receivers meeting earlier. Um you know 2084 01:40:41,240 --> 01:40:43,479 Speaker 1: about what we're looking for from each other against these 2085 01:40:43,560 --> 01:40:46,479 Speaker 1: guys especially, so UM, try to get with them. Um. 2086 01:40:46,560 --> 01:40:48,720 Speaker 1: Obviously we're a little ahead right now with the extra 2087 01:40:48,840 --> 01:40:51,479 Speaker 1: days we've had, but um, you know then, uh, you know, 2088 01:40:51,560 --> 01:40:53,360 Speaker 1: I got to have some balance in life, So spend 2089 01:40:53,520 --> 01:40:55,600 Speaker 1: some time with my wife and my dog, and UM 2090 01:40:55,720 --> 01:40:57,600 Speaker 1: get ready for tomorrow because we're going to attack it 2091 01:40:57,680 --> 01:40:59,479 Speaker 1: once we come back. As far as film, Ravens have 2092 01:40:59,560 --> 01:41:02,080 Speaker 1: a new deep defensive coordinator, but he was their linebackers coach. 2093 01:41:02,120 --> 01:41:04,760 Speaker 1: So can you look at last year's Ravens defense and 2094 01:41:04,840 --> 01:41:06,639 Speaker 1: figure that's kind of what you're gonna get a look 2095 01:41:06,640 --> 01:41:08,720 Speaker 1: at this Sunday. Yeah, you know, I think it's from 2096 01:41:08,760 --> 01:41:11,519 Speaker 1: the same tree, but um, Like I've said with Dabo, 2097 01:41:11,520 --> 01:41:13,800 Speaker 1: people asking me about him at being a coordinator, any 2098 01:41:13,920 --> 01:41:17,880 Speaker 1: every new coordinator has their unique thumb print, you know, fingerprint, 2099 01:41:17,920 --> 01:41:20,240 Speaker 1: and so I think that's what we're gonna see. UM 2100 01:41:20,680 --> 01:41:23,040 Speaker 1: with Don Martin Dale, the same thing is that he's 2101 01:41:23,080 --> 01:41:25,599 Speaker 1: going to have his own fingerprint of how he calls things, 2102 01:41:25,800 --> 01:41:28,000 Speaker 1: you know, the rhythm of the game, and UM, we'll 2103 01:41:28,080 --> 01:41:29,960 Speaker 1: just have to you know, be ready to adjust to that. 2104 01:41:30,120 --> 01:41:32,200 Speaker 1: How did they produce all those takeaways last year? Thirty 2105 01:41:32,240 --> 01:41:34,120 Speaker 1: four takeaways? Was it the way they played or just 2106 01:41:34,200 --> 01:41:36,760 Speaker 1: the ball following you know, their way. Yeah, so I've 2107 01:41:36,800 --> 01:41:38,800 Speaker 1: seen you know, they play hard, and I think when 2108 01:41:39,280 --> 01:41:41,280 Speaker 1: defense runs to the ball, you know, that's how we 2109 01:41:41,400 --> 01:41:43,519 Speaker 1: coach our defense, and I'm sure how they coach there 2110 01:41:43,600 --> 01:41:45,760 Speaker 1: is is um, when you're running the ball hard that 2111 01:41:46,400 --> 01:41:48,720 Speaker 1: there's tips, there's things like that. You've seen that. But 2112 01:41:48,960 --> 01:41:50,800 Speaker 1: they've got a lot of talented players that that will 2113 01:41:50,800 --> 01:41:52,760 Speaker 1: go out there and um want to make a play 2114 01:41:52,840 --> 01:41:55,160 Speaker 1: on the ball. So we've got to be great, UM, 2115 01:41:55,280 --> 01:41:59,000 Speaker 1: great details and our routes and our ball placement by us, 2116 01:41:59,080 --> 01:42:01,200 Speaker 1: and then up front we've got to do a great 2117 01:42:01,280 --> 01:42:04,599 Speaker 1: job as well. So you're coming into this season. Now 2118 01:42:04,680 --> 01:42:06,640 Speaker 1: you're the starter on opening day. Last year you were 2119 01:42:06,640 --> 01:42:09,160 Speaker 1: a rookie coming in and playing behind Tyrod. A lot 2120 01:42:09,240 --> 01:42:11,600 Speaker 1: of new faces not only in the backfield with you 2121 01:42:12,200 --> 01:42:14,599 Speaker 1: starting in the backfield, but also you know, Calvin Benjamin 2122 01:42:14,680 --> 01:42:19,360 Speaker 1: wasn't here at this point last year, Jeremy Curly wasn't 2123 01:42:19,400 --> 01:42:22,760 Speaker 1: here at this point last year, and vlad Duke cost 2124 01:42:22,840 --> 01:42:25,120 Speaker 1: was an unknown. You got the offensive line ahead of you. 2125 01:42:25,600 --> 01:42:28,759 Speaker 1: That's a little what's it? Everything really has to feel 2126 01:42:29,920 --> 01:42:32,639 Speaker 1: light years away from where it was twelve months ago. Yeah, 2127 01:42:32,760 --> 01:42:35,360 Speaker 1: there's definitely been a lot of change, but that's what 2128 01:42:35,439 --> 01:42:38,360 Speaker 1: the NFL is. It's it's a league that changes quickly, 2129 01:42:38,520 --> 01:42:40,479 Speaker 1: and um, you know, you've got to be able to adapt. 2130 01:42:40,600 --> 01:42:43,360 Speaker 1: And I think we've done a great job of all 2131 01:42:43,400 --> 01:42:45,559 Speaker 1: those guys. You know they talked about the new receivers. 2132 01:42:45,600 --> 01:42:48,439 Speaker 1: I mean, you know there we got some great veterans 2133 01:42:48,479 --> 01:42:50,639 Speaker 1: in that room. Um, you know Curly, I know, It's 2134 01:42:50,680 --> 01:42:53,800 Speaker 1: just I'm really excited about him. He's He's an awesome guy, 2135 01:42:54,479 --> 01:42:57,720 Speaker 1: a savvy vet too, that has a great communication with me, 2136 01:42:57,920 --> 01:42:59,880 Speaker 1: and um, I can see that you know he knows 2137 01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:01,960 Speaker 1: he's doing It's he's a great presence. I think to 2138 01:43:02,080 --> 01:43:04,280 Speaker 1: having that room, um, and then you know, just getting 2139 01:43:04,360 --> 01:43:05,880 Speaker 1: used to all the new faces. We've been doing this 2140 01:43:06,080 --> 01:43:08,720 Speaker 1: for you know, a few weeks, a few months now, 2141 01:43:09,160 --> 01:43:11,880 Speaker 1: really since March, you know, like I said, so we 2142 01:43:12,000 --> 01:43:15,519 Speaker 1: just got to keep keep coming together. Anything. Did you, um, 2143 01:43:15,760 --> 01:43:17,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if sweat out is the right word, 2144 01:43:17,320 --> 01:43:20,759 Speaker 1: but did you Were you preoccupied with the quarterback decision 2145 01:43:20,880 --> 01:43:23,680 Speaker 1: going into this last weekend? I assume coach told you 2146 01:43:23,720 --> 01:43:26,519 Speaker 1: guys yesterday morning, right, first thing yesterday? Yeah, the guy, 2147 01:43:26,960 --> 01:43:28,760 Speaker 1: how was your weekend? Did you worry about that? I 2148 01:43:28,800 --> 01:43:30,559 Speaker 1: think about that or it was good? You know, it's 2149 01:43:30,600 --> 01:43:32,639 Speaker 1: it's definitely on your mind, but at the same time, 2150 01:43:32,760 --> 01:43:35,360 Speaker 1: you just kind of by that time, there's nothing else 2151 01:43:35,360 --> 01:43:38,200 Speaker 1: you could do. You know, I'd done everything I could, 2152 01:43:38,400 --> 01:43:41,120 Speaker 1: you know. Um, Obviously, like I said, there's things that 2153 01:43:41,240 --> 01:43:43,240 Speaker 1: you wish you could have had back, but that's always 2154 01:43:43,280 --> 01:43:44,640 Speaker 1: going to be the case in football. You know, you 2155 01:43:44,760 --> 01:43:47,599 Speaker 1: never play a perfect game. UM. So you know, now 2156 01:43:47,680 --> 01:43:50,799 Speaker 1: it's just about preparing for the Ravens no matter what position. 2157 01:43:51,040 --> 01:43:53,200 Speaker 1: You know, I was going to be named as um 2158 01:43:53,560 --> 01:43:55,360 Speaker 1: and I think I did that, and you know it 2159 01:43:55,439 --> 01:43:58,040 Speaker 1: was good to have yesterday happened. Can I go ahead. 2160 01:43:58,040 --> 01:44:00,160 Speaker 1: I just want to take you back to last day 2161 01:44:00,200 --> 01:44:02,560 Speaker 1: night in Chicago, and it's only preseason, but I was 2162 01:44:02,600 --> 01:44:06,240 Speaker 1: just so impressed about the way the entire team offensive particular, 2163 01:44:06,720 --> 01:44:09,160 Speaker 1: responded to being in that hole, digging out of that hole. 2164 01:44:09,479 --> 01:44:11,479 Speaker 1: You know you said goodbye to A. J. Mccaren. I'm sure, 2165 01:44:11,520 --> 01:44:13,679 Speaker 1: but I was impressed by him in his demeanor after 2166 01:44:13,760 --> 01:44:16,000 Speaker 1: the game. It's a guy who's played in national champion one, 2167 01:44:16,120 --> 01:44:19,720 Speaker 1: national championships, and he's talking about legendary comebacks and most 2168 01:44:19,760 --> 01:44:21,800 Speaker 1: funny he's ever had playing football. I just thought we 2169 01:44:21,960 --> 01:44:23,760 Speaker 1: talked about a lot on our show Friday, how that 2170 01:44:23,960 --> 01:44:26,800 Speaker 1: game as meaningless as a preseason game. Is that game 2171 01:44:26,880 --> 01:44:28,680 Speaker 1: kind of said something about the group of guys that 2172 01:44:28,760 --> 01:44:30,960 Speaker 1: you have here. Is that true? What do you think? Absolutely? 2173 01:44:31,080 --> 01:44:35,040 Speaker 1: You know I was obviously we weren't playing, but we're 2174 01:44:35,400 --> 01:44:38,240 Speaker 1: right right in there with it with him, and I 2175 01:44:38,320 --> 01:44:40,720 Speaker 1: think that says a lot about you know, just our 2176 01:44:40,760 --> 01:44:42,760 Speaker 1: whole team. Like you said, in the culture, really that 2177 01:44:43,600 --> 01:44:46,320 Speaker 1: whenever you're out there on that field is an unbelievable 2178 01:44:46,320 --> 01:44:48,680 Speaker 1: opportunity to go out there and play and put your 2179 01:44:48,720 --> 01:44:50,920 Speaker 1: best foot forward. And you know, you saw all the 2180 01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:54,320 Speaker 1: passion on the resiliency that we showed in that game, 2181 01:44:54,320 --> 01:44:55,560 Speaker 1: and I think that's something that we can have some 2182 01:44:55,680 --> 01:44:58,720 Speaker 1: momentum and move forward with. What are you looking most 2183 01:44:58,840 --> 01:45:02,880 Speaker 1: forward to on Sunday? Being a starter man? Hopefully winning 2184 01:45:02,880 --> 01:45:05,800 Speaker 1: the game? I mean that's you know, that's the ultimate goal, UM, 2185 01:45:06,080 --> 01:45:09,519 Speaker 1: no matter completions whatever, UM is just going out there 2186 01:45:09,560 --> 01:45:11,880 Speaker 1: and trying to win a game. So UM. Really that 2187 01:45:12,000 --> 01:45:14,479 Speaker 1: locker room after UM, you know, when you come in 2188 01:45:14,600 --> 01:45:17,320 Speaker 1: and get to celebrate with your teammates. That's Uh, that's 2189 01:45:17,400 --> 01:45:20,000 Speaker 1: the goal that we're working hard towards right now. You 2190 01:45:20,080 --> 01:45:23,000 Speaker 1: spent some time during the offseason out west right with 2191 01:45:23,360 --> 01:45:26,960 Speaker 1: Tom House, former major league pitcher. Was that an entirely 2192 01:45:27,040 --> 01:45:28,880 Speaker 1: new kind of training than you've ever had before in 2193 01:45:28,960 --> 01:45:32,160 Speaker 1: your in your quarterback career? It was, you know, I've 2194 01:45:32,240 --> 01:45:35,439 Speaker 1: I've had some guys UM been around that type. UM, 2195 01:45:35,560 --> 01:45:37,000 Speaker 1: but that was the first time I actually got to 2196 01:45:37,040 --> 01:45:38,400 Speaker 1: go out there and work with him, and I thought 2197 01:45:38,439 --> 01:45:40,679 Speaker 1: it was great. UM. You know, I'm still in contact 2198 01:45:40,720 --> 01:45:42,760 Speaker 1: with him right now and just uh, you know, on 2199 01:45:42,880 --> 01:45:44,960 Speaker 1: what I need to work on and UM again, just 2200 01:45:45,040 --> 01:45:47,040 Speaker 1: trying to keep getting better. I can't remember, I'm sorry. 2201 01:45:47,080 --> 01:45:49,840 Speaker 1: See years ago I was covering spring training and Tom 2202 01:45:49,960 --> 01:45:51,720 Speaker 1: House was there as a pitching coach, I think, and 2203 01:45:51,840 --> 01:45:53,880 Speaker 1: he did that right in Major League Baseball. He had 2204 01:45:53,960 --> 01:45:56,400 Speaker 1: his pictures throwing football sometimes during warm ups, right, that's 2205 01:45:56,439 --> 01:45:57,640 Speaker 1: kind of a I don't know if it's what he 2206 01:45:57,680 --> 01:46:00,640 Speaker 1: called cross training or just he has pitchers footballs and 2207 01:46:00,800 --> 01:46:03,360 Speaker 1: and I'm guessing that you guys may even throwing baseballs 2208 01:46:03,439 --> 01:46:05,320 Speaker 1: when you're out there. We do, yes, weight to balls 2209 01:46:05,400 --> 01:46:08,160 Speaker 1: and things, and you know it's good because it's really 2210 01:46:08,240 --> 01:46:09,720 Speaker 1: just the difference in the weight of the balls and 2211 01:46:09,800 --> 01:46:11,960 Speaker 1: your arm speed. And there's a lot of good things 2212 01:46:12,040 --> 01:46:14,440 Speaker 1: though that he does that maybe are a little unconventional, 2213 01:46:14,600 --> 01:46:17,000 Speaker 1: but you realize there's a purpose for it. What is 2214 01:46:17,040 --> 01:46:19,920 Speaker 1: your when you came out and obviously you've been working 2215 01:46:19,960 --> 01:46:21,840 Speaker 1: on this now for over a year and maybe even 2216 01:46:22,000 --> 01:46:25,360 Speaker 1: during college, And what are some of the basic things 2217 01:46:25,439 --> 01:46:28,320 Speaker 1: that you think about now? Is it gotten easier? Some 2218 01:46:28,439 --> 01:46:30,160 Speaker 1: of it's got had to have gotten easier because you 2219 01:46:30,240 --> 01:46:33,040 Speaker 1: have been working on some of this stuff for hard 2220 01:46:33,360 --> 01:46:36,200 Speaker 1: for months and months on end. Absolutely. Yeah. I think 2221 01:46:36,280 --> 01:46:38,840 Speaker 1: one of the main things too, and going against our 2222 01:46:38,920 --> 01:46:41,439 Speaker 1: defense especially is just you know, seeing how defense is 2223 01:46:41,479 --> 01:46:43,840 Speaker 1: move in the NFL, because it is a little bit different. 2224 01:46:43,880 --> 01:46:46,360 Speaker 1: You know, those safeties they're they're pretty crafty, especially the 2225 01:46:46,400 --> 01:46:48,800 Speaker 1: two that we have to go against them. You know, 2226 01:46:48,880 --> 01:46:51,920 Speaker 1: all of OTAs in camp U and see you know, 2227 01:46:52,080 --> 01:46:54,680 Speaker 1: how how they're moving, how they're trying to disguise. Um. 2228 01:46:55,040 --> 01:46:57,479 Speaker 1: It is a lot different than college. But to feel 2229 01:46:57,520 --> 01:46:59,880 Speaker 1: that again and kind of just get used to it 2230 01:47:00,080 --> 01:47:02,960 Speaker 1: of seeing, you know, how the whole picture moves helps 2231 01:47:02,960 --> 01:47:05,000 Speaker 1: as a quarterback kind of speed that process up of 2232 01:47:05,360 --> 01:47:07,320 Speaker 1: diagnosing the coverage and then being able to you know, 2233 01:47:07,400 --> 01:47:09,719 Speaker 1: decide where to go with the ball. Your last NFL 2234 01:47:09,800 --> 01:47:13,600 Speaker 1: action was the playoff game against Jacksonville, and that's got 2235 01:47:13,720 --> 01:47:16,320 Speaker 1: to be almost impossible. Would be thrown into the mix 2236 01:47:16,680 --> 01:47:18,680 Speaker 1: in the middle or in that case, late stages of 2237 01:47:18,720 --> 01:47:20,839 Speaker 1: a game. They have a whole week's worth of practice, 2238 01:47:20,880 --> 01:47:22,280 Speaker 1: they have all this prep time. It's got to be 2239 01:47:22,400 --> 01:47:25,640 Speaker 1: like a totally different endeavor for you than it was, 2240 01:47:25,760 --> 01:47:27,280 Speaker 1: you know, being thrown into a game. You came into 2241 01:47:27,280 --> 01:47:29,240 Speaker 1: a couple of games in relief of time rode last year, 2242 01:47:29,479 --> 01:47:31,840 Speaker 1: for sure, you know, And that was my job, you know, 2243 01:47:31,960 --> 01:47:34,439 Speaker 1: last year, and this is my job you know this 2244 01:47:34,600 --> 01:47:37,200 Speaker 1: year right now, And that's what I'm gonna you know, 2245 01:47:37,280 --> 01:47:39,760 Speaker 1: I approached that, you know, the same way of trying 2246 01:47:39,800 --> 01:47:42,360 Speaker 1: to give my best effort with everything, and this week 2247 01:47:42,439 --> 01:47:45,400 Speaker 1: that's certainly the case. Is whatever, you know, my responsibility 2248 01:47:45,479 --> 01:47:47,200 Speaker 1: is I want to go do that, So helping the 2249 01:47:47,240 --> 01:47:49,360 Speaker 1: team win as my goal. So a lot of the 2250 01:47:49,439 --> 01:47:51,720 Speaker 1: questions surrounding the team is because there are so many 2251 01:47:51,800 --> 01:47:54,080 Speaker 1: new faces on the club and there has been some shoveling, 2252 01:47:54,080 --> 01:47:56,320 Speaker 1: particularly right in front of you. What's your relationship and 2253 01:47:56,400 --> 01:47:59,360 Speaker 1: what's your thoughts and the feedback the offensive line is 2254 01:47:59,439 --> 01:48:02,040 Speaker 1: giving you about you know, how they're coming together and 2255 01:48:02,080 --> 01:48:05,160 Speaker 1: what they're gonna do to you know, to actually played 2256 01:48:05,160 --> 01:48:07,439 Speaker 1: better than they did maybe in Cincinnati or in Cleveland, 2257 01:48:07,520 --> 01:48:09,320 Speaker 1: that kind of thing, like they look good. We were 2258 01:48:09,320 --> 01:48:11,920 Speaker 1: talking with they look good against Carolina and then you know, 2259 01:48:11,960 --> 01:48:14,360 Speaker 1: then they started shuffling guys around and moving some pieces 2260 01:48:14,360 --> 01:48:17,080 Speaker 1: and they did weren't as performers. Well, what's your interaction 2261 01:48:17,160 --> 01:48:19,960 Speaker 1: with the offensive line? It's great, you know, Um, you know, 2262 01:48:20,120 --> 01:48:22,720 Speaker 1: Ryan Groy and I were just together talking about you know, 2263 01:48:22,760 --> 01:48:24,960 Speaker 1: the blitz is that they're going to bring us and um, 2264 01:48:25,160 --> 01:48:26,920 Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure we'll continue to have those those 2265 01:48:27,000 --> 01:48:30,200 Speaker 1: talks throughout the week. And I think that's important because 2266 01:48:30,479 --> 01:48:33,000 Speaker 1: especially on the offensive line with us. Um, it's all 2267 01:48:33,000 --> 01:48:36,040 Speaker 1: about chemistry, you know, and those guys you know, getting together. 2268 01:48:36,080 --> 01:48:37,880 Speaker 1: I thought it was good. We had kind of just 2269 01:48:38,000 --> 01:48:41,559 Speaker 1: an offensive meeting together, Um, just players yesterday and UM 2270 01:48:41,680 --> 01:48:43,360 Speaker 1: kind of watch some things and you know, to hear 2271 01:48:43,400 --> 01:48:45,640 Speaker 1: the old line talk together of hey, you know, this 2272 01:48:45,760 --> 01:48:47,560 Speaker 1: is how we need to be working together. Um. I 2273 01:48:47,600 --> 01:48:50,479 Speaker 1: thought was great to hear that kind of talk with them. Um. 2274 01:48:50,560 --> 01:48:53,320 Speaker 1: That's just something that we'll have to keep growing with too. Yeah, 2275 01:48:53,320 --> 01:48:55,360 Speaker 1: if you got two big brothers, what have they said 2276 01:48:55,400 --> 01:48:58,760 Speaker 1: this week? You about getting the call to start this week? Well, 2277 01:48:58,800 --> 01:49:00,679 Speaker 1: it's been a little bit of I guess at world 2278 01:49:00,680 --> 01:49:03,560 Speaker 1: win since yesterday. Um, you know, I haven't gotten to 2279 01:49:04,600 --> 01:49:06,559 Speaker 1: just sit down and talk with a lot of my family, 2280 01:49:06,680 --> 01:49:09,280 Speaker 1: but I know they're so excited. Um. You know they've 2281 01:49:09,320 --> 01:49:11,800 Speaker 1: been rooting for me. Um, always had my back for 2282 01:49:12,000 --> 01:49:14,120 Speaker 1: you know obviously since I was a kid. So I'm 2283 01:49:14,160 --> 01:49:18,160 Speaker 1: just thankful for them, um, and definitely ready for this Sunday. 2284 01:49:18,240 --> 01:49:20,880 Speaker 1: Not a family coming Sunday, Um, no, I don't think. 2285 01:49:20,920 --> 01:49:23,519 Speaker 1: So it's kind of sprung upon us. My dad, you know, 2286 01:49:23,680 --> 01:49:26,960 Speaker 1: is working too on Sunday as a creature. So um, 2287 01:49:27,160 --> 01:49:28,880 Speaker 1: they'll they'll make it up to a few though this year. 2288 01:49:29,600 --> 01:49:33,240 Speaker 1: The good guy. Good luck with that. That's they everybody. 2289 01:49:33,520 --> 01:49:35,360 Speaker 1: Murphy even too, deludes to it once in a while. 2290 01:49:35,439 --> 01:49:38,720 Speaker 1: How tickets are free. The tickets aren't free. They're not. 2291 01:49:39,080 --> 01:49:42,080 Speaker 1: They're not, unfortunately. But yeah, my other brother's expecting a 2292 01:49:42,200 --> 01:49:45,360 Speaker 1: baby here soon, so he's on baby watch. But I'll 2293 01:49:45,360 --> 01:49:47,280 Speaker 1: be looking forward to when they have that too. If 2294 01:49:47,360 --> 01:49:50,640 Speaker 1: you last question I have see might hit more. This 2295 01:49:50,920 --> 01:49:53,160 Speaker 1: is a step for you, a pretty significant step to 2296 01:49:53,240 --> 01:49:56,280 Speaker 1: be starting opening day in the NFL, and as you said, 2297 01:49:56,560 --> 01:49:59,439 Speaker 1: it's a whirlwind since the announcement yesterday. Do you allow 2298 01:49:59,479 --> 01:50:01,080 Speaker 1: yourself and any time at all to kind of just 2299 01:50:01,240 --> 01:50:04,120 Speaker 1: reflect a little bit like where you came from, transferring 2300 01:50:04,200 --> 01:50:07,240 Speaker 1: in college? Fifth round draft pick? Um? You know, playing 2301 01:50:07,240 --> 01:50:09,400 Speaker 1: a little bit last year. Have you allowed any time 2302 01:50:09,439 --> 01:50:11,479 Speaker 1: for reflection, like, Wow, look where I am, Look what 2303 01:50:11,560 --> 01:50:13,760 Speaker 1: I'm doing this Sunday. Yeah, you know, I think that 2304 01:50:13,920 --> 01:50:16,960 Speaker 1: that just comes naturally. Um. You know, especially after camp, 2305 01:50:17,040 --> 01:50:18,680 Speaker 1: you got a you know, a couple of days just 2306 01:50:18,800 --> 01:50:21,760 Speaker 1: to kind of catch your breath and really reflect. And 2307 01:50:22,880 --> 01:50:24,360 Speaker 1: you know, my wife and I went off to dinner 2308 01:50:24,439 --> 01:50:26,960 Speaker 1: the other night after everything and just getting to sit 2309 01:50:27,040 --> 01:50:29,840 Speaker 1: there and reflect with her about it. Through it all, 2310 01:50:29,920 --> 01:50:31,880 Speaker 1: it has been a crazy ride, and I know, you know, 2311 01:50:31,960 --> 01:50:33,760 Speaker 1: there's going to be you know, a lot of ups 2312 01:50:33,760 --> 01:50:37,000 Speaker 1: and downs to come still, i mean young in my career, 2313 01:50:37,160 --> 01:50:39,519 Speaker 1: but um, it's pretty amazing to see what God has done, 2314 01:50:39,720 --> 01:50:42,120 Speaker 1: you know, just through my whole life and career, and 2315 01:50:42,560 --> 01:50:44,640 Speaker 1: I'm excited for for what's to come. So if I 2316 01:50:44,680 --> 01:50:47,080 Speaker 1: got to ask you too, you gotta feel like for 2317 01:50:47,200 --> 01:50:49,920 Speaker 1: all that's happened, the transfers in college and the draft 2318 01:50:50,000 --> 01:50:52,280 Speaker 1: and the stuff that happened last year and going through 2319 01:50:52,360 --> 01:50:54,640 Speaker 1: this competition, you got to feel like you might be 2320 01:50:54,840 --> 01:50:58,320 Speaker 1: just in the right spot where you're supposed to be absolutely, um, 2321 01:50:58,520 --> 01:51:00,560 Speaker 1: you know, and that's something and I felt for a 2322 01:51:00,640 --> 01:51:03,040 Speaker 1: long time, you know, with this coaching staff and the 2323 01:51:03,120 --> 01:51:07,439 Speaker 1: people here, Um, I've felt just extremely blessed to be here. Um, 2324 01:51:07,800 --> 01:51:09,680 Speaker 1: you know, from the day I was drafted and got 2325 01:51:09,720 --> 01:51:12,040 Speaker 1: to know coach McDermott and you know all the people, 2326 01:51:12,320 --> 01:51:14,760 Speaker 1: you know, the supporting staff around here. I mean, there's 2327 01:51:14,800 --> 01:51:17,080 Speaker 1: just good people here and I'm so thankful to be 2328 01:51:17,120 --> 01:51:19,200 Speaker 1: a part of it. Good Luck, Nay, good luck on Sunday, 2329 01:51:19,200 --> 01:51:20,880 Speaker 1: and good luck on wherever this takes you. Thank you, 2330 01:51:22,240 --> 01:51:24,800 Speaker 1: Thanks for good luck. Nathan Peterman Bill's quarterback starting on 2331 01:51:24,880 --> 01:51:26,840 Speaker 1: Sunday against the raven Steve and I back with more 2332 01:51:26,920 --> 01:51:29,760 Speaker 1: One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bills Radio. 2333 01:51:43,720 --> 01:51:46,120 Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bill's Life, John Murphy's Steve Tasker 2334 01:51:46,200 --> 01:51:49,280 Speaker 1: in our one Buffalo studio on a beautiful Tuesday afternoon. 2335 01:51:49,360 --> 01:51:51,920 Speaker 1: We're really going to be knee deep in Bills Ravens tomorrow. 2336 01:51:51,920 --> 01:51:57,479 Speaker 1: What's the matter? See it's two thirty. Just about I'm 2337 01:51:58,160 --> 01:52:00,920 Speaker 1: the game. The shows go fast in the season, don't that. Yes, 2338 01:52:01,479 --> 01:52:05,400 Speaker 1: we're busy, busy, business, busy that. How about how about 2339 01:52:05,400 --> 01:52:09,200 Speaker 1: our guy Nate Peterman, who's what's not to like? Writing? 2340 01:52:09,520 --> 01:52:13,400 Speaker 1: Just a great attitude, great demeanor. Um, you know what 2341 01:52:13,520 --> 01:52:15,639 Speaker 1: I admitted. I said, Hey, did you spend any time 2342 01:52:15,680 --> 01:52:17,599 Speaker 1: this weekend thinking wondering if you're going to be the guy? 2343 01:52:17,920 --> 01:52:19,519 Speaker 1: He said, Yeah, I did. I thought about it a 2344 01:52:19,600 --> 01:52:22,880 Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, you have to there with my wife 2345 01:52:22,920 --> 01:52:25,280 Speaker 1: and yeah if he and look at how far has come? 2346 01:52:25,360 --> 01:52:29,120 Speaker 1: Really look and he is so far from an you know, 2347 01:52:29,520 --> 01:52:33,160 Speaker 1: a colorful character, right, that's all right though, he's like 2348 01:52:34,000 --> 01:52:36,560 Speaker 1: just down to earth. He's like a mud puddle. He 2349 01:52:36,920 --> 01:52:38,640 Speaker 1: sounded I got a question for you because it came 2350 01:52:38,720 --> 01:52:40,639 Speaker 1: up a lot, a lot of questions for Nathan yesterday. 2351 01:52:40,680 --> 01:52:44,600 Speaker 1: Didn't even Sean McDermott about And it's an easy storyline 2352 01:52:44,840 --> 01:52:48,840 Speaker 1: for any player, but um, the hurdles he's overcome, the 2353 01:52:49,000 --> 01:52:51,160 Speaker 1: challenges he's overcome. I don't know if I buy that. 2354 01:52:51,320 --> 01:52:54,400 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that Nathan Peterman hasn't worked hard, but yeah, 2355 01:52:54,520 --> 01:52:56,479 Speaker 1: he had to transfer to Tennessee, got passed over on 2356 01:52:56,520 --> 01:52:58,759 Speaker 1: the depth chart, So that's a hurdle, that's a setback. 2357 01:52:59,120 --> 01:53:03,320 Speaker 1: Did Great pit right beat Clemson right? Fifth round pick? 2358 01:53:03,640 --> 01:53:06,040 Speaker 1: Is that? Yeah? He probably got drafted where most people 2359 01:53:06,080 --> 01:53:09,479 Speaker 1: thought he should be rough outing in his first start 2360 01:53:09,840 --> 01:53:11,960 Speaker 1: at the Chargers. Yes, I acknowledge all that, but I 2361 01:53:12,520 --> 01:53:16,680 Speaker 1: don't he's more than just the classic story of overcoming 2362 01:53:16,760 --> 01:53:19,280 Speaker 1: the odds or I think when you get to know 2363 01:53:19,400 --> 01:53:20,559 Speaker 1: him a little bit and talked to him a little 2364 01:53:20,560 --> 01:53:23,559 Speaker 1: bit about his background. He mentioned his father's a preacher 2365 01:53:23,640 --> 01:53:27,639 Speaker 1: down in Jacksonville, Florida area, two older brothers. He's had 2366 01:53:27,720 --> 01:53:30,920 Speaker 1: good things in his background. He's had good support throughout 2367 01:53:31,000 --> 01:53:32,559 Speaker 1: his career. You know, he's married now for a couple 2368 01:53:32,560 --> 01:53:35,439 Speaker 1: of years. He's got two older brothers, his family's strong supporter. 2369 01:53:35,520 --> 01:53:37,200 Speaker 1: You got a coach that obviously likes him a lot. 2370 01:53:37,479 --> 01:53:39,439 Speaker 1: I don't think he's like a hard luck kid, which 2371 01:53:39,479 --> 01:53:42,240 Speaker 1: I think some may be ready to portray him as much. 2372 01:53:42,320 --> 01:53:44,680 Speaker 1: In fact, I think when he's been given a chance, yeah, 2373 01:53:44,840 --> 01:53:49,160 Speaker 1: he's exceeded expectations. In fact, he got to the point 2374 01:53:49,240 --> 01:53:51,800 Speaker 1: where he exceeded him so point he got in, he 2375 01:53:51,880 --> 01:53:53,760 Speaker 1: got put in someplace where he was in over his 2376 01:53:53,840 --> 01:53:55,800 Speaker 1: head in that Charger game. He played so well in 2377 01:53:55,920 --> 01:53:59,639 Speaker 1: last year's preseason. I mean, who thought he was gonna 2378 01:53:59,680 --> 01:54:01,760 Speaker 1: come in and play as well as he did and 2379 01:54:01,880 --> 01:54:04,599 Speaker 1: earned the backup spot. Because when he earned it, nobody 2380 01:54:04,640 --> 01:54:06,400 Speaker 1: batted an eye, right, I mean it was like, yeah, 2381 01:54:06,439 --> 01:54:07,960 Speaker 1: you're right, you know what, he did play well, they 2382 01:54:07,960 --> 01:54:10,080 Speaker 1: got to keep him, and then they did. Now they 2383 01:54:10,120 --> 01:54:11,840 Speaker 1: didn't get to expect him to get to the point 2384 01:54:11,840 --> 01:54:13,479 Speaker 1: where they were gonna have to bench their starter and 2385 01:54:13,600 --> 01:54:15,360 Speaker 1: stick him in there. I don't think he was ready 2386 01:54:15,360 --> 01:54:17,360 Speaker 1: for that at that point. I think he needed some time. 2387 01:54:17,680 --> 01:54:19,519 Speaker 1: And if that gives you any indication about what they 2388 01:54:19,960 --> 01:54:23,800 Speaker 1: know their timetable about sticking a rookie in, that was 2389 01:54:24,040 --> 01:54:27,320 Speaker 1: week eight of last season. Correct, There was five and four. 2390 01:54:27,400 --> 01:54:30,760 Speaker 1: So okay, week ten, week ten of last season, and uh, 2391 01:54:31,439 --> 01:54:33,560 Speaker 1: you know, he wasn't quite the same guy. He wasn't 2392 01:54:33,600 --> 01:54:35,920 Speaker 1: ready for that. So I think that may give you 2393 01:54:35,960 --> 01:54:38,840 Speaker 1: an idea into the inside of the timetable for Josh Allen. 2394 01:54:38,880 --> 01:54:40,640 Speaker 1: They may think, you know, maybe it's not time for 2395 01:54:40,720 --> 01:54:43,520 Speaker 1: him until week twelve, fourteen sixteen. I guess I just 2396 01:54:43,680 --> 01:54:46,800 Speaker 1: reject the storyline maybe developing, maybe it won't that he 2397 01:54:46,920 --> 01:54:50,120 Speaker 1: is some sort of hard luck guy who's really been 2398 01:54:50,200 --> 01:54:52,200 Speaker 1: up against it, and not that he's had it easy, 2399 01:54:52,280 --> 01:54:55,200 Speaker 1: but he's sort of to me, he's a plugger, steady guy. 2400 01:54:55,320 --> 01:54:57,840 Speaker 1: You know. Oh, I can't play anymore in Tennessee. Okay, 2401 01:54:57,880 --> 01:55:00,600 Speaker 1: I'll transfer to pit Oh we gotta play. I'm saying, okay, 2402 01:55:00,680 --> 01:55:03,160 Speaker 1: let's let's let's play well and be Clemson. Oh fifth 2403 01:55:03,280 --> 01:55:05,280 Speaker 1: round pick, now a first or second. Okay, I'm gonna 2404 01:55:05,280 --> 01:55:07,240 Speaker 1: go make a team. I mean all along. I don't 2405 01:55:07,280 --> 01:55:10,680 Speaker 1: think it's as if he's been challenged by incredible hardships. 2406 01:55:10,720 --> 01:55:12,560 Speaker 1: I just think he is a plugger. He is a worker. 2407 01:55:13,120 --> 01:55:15,880 Speaker 1: And I go back to McDermott said it yesterday. What's 2408 01:55:15,920 --> 01:55:18,640 Speaker 1: the quote that he said about Nathan Peterman. I love it. 2409 01:55:18,680 --> 01:55:20,840 Speaker 1: I've been impressed with his mental toughness in his command 2410 01:55:20,920 --> 01:55:23,840 Speaker 1: of the offense. That's why Nathan Peterman is starting the 2411 01:55:23,880 --> 01:55:26,400 Speaker 1: Sunday mental toughness. Yes, I'll give him that. He's tough 2412 01:55:26,520 --> 01:55:28,320 Speaker 1: enough to stay with it in the face of some 2413 01:55:28,440 --> 01:55:32,200 Speaker 1: adversity and his command of the offense. He's smart, you know, 2414 01:55:32,320 --> 01:55:34,080 Speaker 1: he knows what they're trying to do here. He's in here. 2415 01:55:34,120 --> 01:55:36,640 Speaker 1: By the way, on Tuesday, the day off, a meeting 2416 01:55:36,720 --> 01:55:38,720 Speaker 1: with receivers. They met today, you know they don't have 2417 01:55:38,800 --> 01:55:41,440 Speaker 1: to meet today. Meeting with offensive lineman talking to Ryan 2418 01:55:41,520 --> 01:55:44,040 Speaker 1: Groy about past protection today and the day off. That 2419 01:55:44,160 --> 01:55:46,760 Speaker 1: doesn't always happen. It hasn't always happened in this building 2420 01:55:47,160 --> 01:55:49,520 Speaker 1: over the years. I get it, and I hear you. 2421 01:55:49,840 --> 01:55:54,400 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like you know, he's you know, 2422 01:55:54,520 --> 01:55:57,920 Speaker 1: been back from the dead. But right, But let me 2423 01:55:58,080 --> 01:55:59,920 Speaker 1: tell you something, He's always going to be the great 2424 01:56:00,080 --> 01:56:03,960 Speaker 1: redemption story because of his first start. When he comes 2425 01:56:04,040 --> 01:56:06,160 Speaker 1: back and has any kind of success and comes back 2426 01:56:06,280 --> 01:56:08,000 Speaker 1: wins games. If he comes back and gets a team, 2427 01:56:08,280 --> 01:56:11,200 Speaker 1: for instance, this is hype. For instance, Nate Peterman comes 2428 01:56:11,200 --> 01:56:12,960 Speaker 1: and gets the Bills back to the playoffs in a year, 2429 01:56:12,960 --> 01:56:15,120 Speaker 1: where they were supposed to be the thirty first worst team. 2430 01:56:15,160 --> 01:56:17,000 Speaker 1: When teams are picking up like they did last year, 2431 01:56:17,000 --> 01:56:19,480 Speaker 1: they were supposed to be tanking last year, and Nate 2432 01:56:19,560 --> 01:56:22,040 Speaker 1: Peterman is the guy that leads him to the playoffs. 2433 01:56:22,360 --> 01:56:24,520 Speaker 1: You don't think that's going to be the enormous redemption 2434 01:56:24,560 --> 01:56:26,440 Speaker 1: story of a guy who came in started one year. 2435 01:56:27,240 --> 01:56:32,080 Speaker 1: It's the absolute lead story, and he's always particularly now 2436 01:56:32,240 --> 01:56:34,400 Speaker 1: in the foreseeable future, it's all going to be about 2437 01:56:34,520 --> 01:56:37,040 Speaker 1: his redemption from coming back from where he started as 2438 01:56:37,080 --> 01:56:38,960 Speaker 1: a rookie. I don't think people will go back as 2439 01:56:39,040 --> 01:56:42,000 Speaker 1: far as Tennessee and all that. And there's no doubt 2440 01:56:42,080 --> 01:56:46,120 Speaker 1: that he gets a lot of a lot of strength 2441 01:56:46,480 --> 01:56:49,200 Speaker 1: from his faith and the support that his family gives him, 2442 01:56:49,200 --> 01:56:51,000 Speaker 1: and the kind of well grounded kid that he is, 2443 01:56:51,120 --> 01:56:55,200 Speaker 1: and the and the preparedness his family gave him for 2444 01:56:55,320 --> 01:56:58,040 Speaker 1: being an a pro athlete and all the obstacles he 2445 01:56:58,400 --> 01:57:01,400 Speaker 1: come across every single day. But he's always going to 2446 01:57:01,480 --> 01:57:05,000 Speaker 1: be that redemption story because of the way his career 2447 01:57:05,080 --> 01:57:06,720 Speaker 1: started when he got on the field. I mean, that's 2448 01:57:07,040 --> 01:57:09,760 Speaker 1: and I think it's an awesome story and I can't 2449 01:57:09,800 --> 01:57:12,920 Speaker 1: wait for it to happen. You know you can talk you. 2450 01:57:13,240 --> 01:57:14,480 Speaker 1: We sat here and talked to him. He hear what 2451 01:57:14,520 --> 01:57:16,760 Speaker 1: everybody says about him. He is what he seems to be. Yeah, 2452 01:57:16,760 --> 01:57:19,800 Speaker 1: it's a great dude, you know. Yep, we root for him. Hey, 2453 01:57:20,080 --> 01:57:22,520 Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman's gonna start on Sunday. How many starts does 2454 01:57:22,560 --> 01:57:24,680 Speaker 1: he get this year? That's our Twitter poll. We should 2455 01:57:24,720 --> 01:57:27,800 Speaker 1: check that because it's always since the day began, it 2456 01:57:27,960 --> 01:57:29,920 Speaker 1: was about at fifty percent, a little bit more than 2457 01:57:30,000 --> 01:57:33,400 Speaker 1: fifty percent of respondence to Twitter. I think he's going 2458 01:57:33,480 --> 01:57:36,280 Speaker 1: to start somewhere between what five and eight games? On 2459 01:57:36,400 --> 01:57:39,680 Speaker 1: the Twitter poll fifty one percent the last time I checked, 2460 01:57:40,040 --> 01:57:41,880 Speaker 1: and right now it's at fifty one percent five to 2461 01:57:42,000 --> 01:57:44,960 Speaker 1: eight games. Twenty six percent say four or fewer, twenty 2462 01:57:45,000 --> 01:57:46,760 Speaker 1: three percent say nine or more. What do you think? 2463 01:57:46,760 --> 01:57:48,680 Speaker 1: Give us a call? Eight oh three oh five fifty 2464 01:57:48,920 --> 01:57:51,760 Speaker 1: toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two five 2465 01:57:51,880 --> 01:57:54,720 Speaker 1: fifty Sam and Niagara Falls has his answer to this, Sam, 2466 01:57:54,800 --> 01:57:58,880 Speaker 1: what do you think? Firstly, I think that Nathan Peterman 2467 01:57:58,960 --> 01:58:00,880 Speaker 1: and how many games he will start will only be 2468 01:58:01,040 --> 01:58:04,320 Speaker 1: determined off of how well the offensive life protects them. 2469 01:58:05,800 --> 01:58:10,600 Speaker 1: Why is that? Basically because I've been a Bills Fansy's birth. 2470 01:58:10,680 --> 01:58:13,440 Speaker 1: And I've noticed that it's just an ongoing thing year 2471 01:58:13,480 --> 01:58:15,440 Speaker 1: after year that the offensive light, no matter who we 2472 01:58:15,520 --> 01:58:18,200 Speaker 1: have on the line, it just follows apart. And I 2473 01:58:18,240 --> 01:58:22,720 Speaker 1: don't I don't get why. I really don't. Well, did 2474 01:58:22,760 --> 01:58:24,920 Speaker 1: you think did you think the offensive line fell apart 2475 01:58:25,000 --> 01:58:26,960 Speaker 1: two or three years ago when they led the league 2476 01:58:27,000 --> 01:58:31,320 Speaker 1: in rushing. No, I think they did a good job then, 2477 01:58:31,440 --> 01:58:33,800 Speaker 1: but they still didn't get the quarterback really any any 2478 01:58:33,880 --> 01:58:37,520 Speaker 1: time to make a choice to throw the ball. Well, yeah, 2479 01:58:37,880 --> 01:58:40,640 Speaker 1: well yeah, I probably I'll probably take issue with you 2480 01:58:40,720 --> 01:58:42,680 Speaker 1: on that, Sam. I think I think that was as 2481 01:58:42,760 --> 01:58:45,240 Speaker 1: much and I think that's why that quarterback's not here anymore, 2482 01:58:45,520 --> 01:58:48,320 Speaker 1: and that offensive line would have been had they stayed 2483 01:58:48,360 --> 01:58:52,040 Speaker 1: healthy and intact. But um, yeah, I don't know. I say, 2484 01:58:52,080 --> 01:58:53,920 Speaker 1: I get what you're saying, Sam, And there's no question 2485 01:58:54,000 --> 01:58:56,280 Speaker 1: the offensive The offense is only going to be as 2486 01:58:56,320 --> 01:59:00,200 Speaker 1: successful as the offensive line can play well, and there's 2487 01:59:00,240 --> 01:59:02,120 Speaker 1: no doubt about it, and the quarterback success is going 2488 01:59:02,200 --> 01:59:04,640 Speaker 1: to be directly a result of that. But I do 2489 01:59:04,840 --> 01:59:07,520 Speaker 1: think that you don't have to have the absolute best 2490 01:59:07,600 --> 01:59:10,840 Speaker 1: offensive line in the National Football League to be successful offensively. 2491 01:59:11,520 --> 01:59:13,920 Speaker 1: Nobody talked about how great the offensive line of the 2492 01:59:14,000 --> 01:59:15,520 Speaker 1: Rams was last year and they had the number one 2493 01:59:15,520 --> 01:59:19,640 Speaker 1: offense in the league. It does help. They can't they 2494 01:59:19,720 --> 01:59:21,800 Speaker 1: can't be falling all over themselves. We all know that. 2495 01:59:22,400 --> 01:59:25,960 Speaker 1: But I don't think that. And I get the questions 2496 01:59:26,000 --> 01:59:28,480 Speaker 1: that are coming from because of the preseason, but I 2497 01:59:28,600 --> 01:59:32,600 Speaker 1: don't think this offensive line is going to fall into 2498 01:59:32,720 --> 01:59:35,760 Speaker 1: that into that category. No question. They struggled in the 2499 01:59:35,840 --> 01:59:40,400 Speaker 1: preseason at times, and there are good reasons for that 2500 01:59:41,240 --> 01:59:43,640 Speaker 1: because of the shuffling and the things they were trying 2501 01:59:43,680 --> 01:59:45,680 Speaker 1: to find out about the players they had. And I 2502 01:59:45,760 --> 01:59:48,360 Speaker 1: don't mean trying to find out how bad they were. 2503 01:59:49,160 --> 01:59:51,080 Speaker 1: They had some guys, they had some roles they needed 2504 01:59:51,120 --> 01:59:52,520 Speaker 1: to fill, and they want to see who could do that. 2505 01:59:52,600 --> 01:59:56,640 Speaker 1: Thanks for your call, Sam. Let's go to Dave and Buffalo. Hello, Dave, welcome. Hey, 2506 01:59:56,760 --> 02:00:01,920 Speaker 1: how are you doing today? Okay? Good? First time great? Uh. 2507 02:00:02,240 --> 02:00:04,960 Speaker 1: What I'd like to know is O'Leary what he is? 2508 02:00:05,000 --> 02:00:09,640 Speaker 1: Such a tremendously good camp. I think it's gonna come 2509 02:00:09,680 --> 02:00:11,720 Speaker 1: around and maybe bite him. I'd like to know if 2510 02:00:11,760 --> 02:00:14,360 Speaker 1: you don't have any input on what happened to him. Well, 2511 02:00:14,400 --> 02:00:16,800 Speaker 1: we talked about a little bit yesterday Dave and one 2512 02:00:16,840 --> 02:00:19,160 Speaker 1: of the reasons we came up with the guys that 2513 02:00:19,240 --> 02:00:22,400 Speaker 1: they kept over him in Kroome, in Logan Thomas, and 2514 02:00:22,520 --> 02:00:27,920 Speaker 1: in Kyrie Lee. Uh, they're all much more fat, they're faster, 2515 02:00:28,320 --> 02:00:31,320 Speaker 1: they're better athletes. Uh, no question that you get. You 2516 02:00:31,440 --> 02:00:35,040 Speaker 1: know what you're gonna get with with Nico Leary. And 2517 02:00:35,320 --> 02:00:37,360 Speaker 1: one of the interesting things about it, and you can 2518 02:00:37,400 --> 02:00:41,160 Speaker 1: equate it a little bit to Nathan Peterman and Josh Allen. Uh, 2519 02:00:41,320 --> 02:00:43,600 Speaker 1: they kept the tight ends that all fit the Josh 2520 02:00:43,680 --> 02:00:46,520 Speaker 1: Allen description of being big, physically gifted that can bit 2521 02:00:46,600 --> 02:00:48,520 Speaker 1: with the big arm, you know, and the tight ends 2522 02:00:48,520 --> 02:00:51,240 Speaker 1: that they kept are big, fast athletes who can get 2523 02:00:51,320 --> 02:00:54,920 Speaker 1: open and outrun people. Nico O'Leary is the guy like 2524 02:00:55,080 --> 02:00:57,120 Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman. He's gonna get the ball out on time, 2525 02:00:57,160 --> 02:00:58,880 Speaker 1: He's gonna be where he's supposed to be. He's gonna 2526 02:00:58,880 --> 02:01:00,400 Speaker 1: try and do all the right things, but you're gonna 2527 02:01:00,400 --> 02:01:02,760 Speaker 1: have to support him with a cast around him to 2528 02:01:02,840 --> 02:01:07,640 Speaker 1: make him really good. Nicole Leary is dependable. He's a smart, 2529 02:01:08,160 --> 02:01:11,040 Speaker 1: mistake free player, but he's not going to win games 2530 02:01:11,080 --> 02:01:12,440 Speaker 1: for you, and he's not gonna win a one on 2531 02:01:12,560 --> 02:01:15,000 Speaker 1: one battle. So I think that's the reason the other 2532 02:01:15,160 --> 02:01:18,200 Speaker 1: tight ends made it. They were just much better athletes 2533 02:01:18,280 --> 02:01:20,520 Speaker 1: than Nicole Leary was squeezing one more call here, Mark 2534 02:01:20,600 --> 02:01:24,240 Speaker 1: and Rochester. Go ahead, Mark, Welcome to the show. Yeah, hey, guys, 2535 02:01:24,280 --> 02:01:29,720 Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of both of yours than I thought. 2536 02:01:29,720 --> 02:01:34,240 Speaker 1: It really refreshing, Steve when you mentioned earlier about John Gruden, 2537 02:01:35,120 --> 02:01:37,800 Speaker 1: about how he took somebody else's team and won a 2538 02:01:37,840 --> 02:01:40,200 Speaker 1: Super Bowl and how he's been kind of going downhill 2539 02:01:40,200 --> 02:01:43,440 Speaker 1: as a coach ever since. I've been waiting for somebody 2540 02:01:43,520 --> 02:01:46,760 Speaker 1: to say that, because I believe that Bruden and Mike 2541 02:01:46,840 --> 02:01:50,320 Speaker 1: Shanahan are two of the most overrated coaches ever in 2542 02:01:50,400 --> 02:01:54,120 Speaker 1: the NFL. Shanahan took Dad and Reads team in Denver 2543 02:01:54,280 --> 02:01:57,360 Speaker 1: and won a couple of Super Bowls, and Gruden did 2544 02:01:57,440 --> 02:02:00,600 Speaker 1: the same thing in Tampa. I mean, Dungee's right, I 2545 02:02:00,720 --> 02:02:03,960 Speaker 1: want to Super Bowl for crying out loud. Gruden had 2546 02:02:04,000 --> 02:02:07,600 Speaker 1: Dungee's lineup right, right right? Oh yeah? Is that? Yeah? 2547 02:02:08,040 --> 02:02:11,200 Speaker 1: Right right? And Tony Dodge he ended up going to 2548 02:02:11,320 --> 02:02:13,600 Speaker 1: indian and winning a Super Bowl on his own, which 2549 02:02:13,640 --> 02:02:17,840 Speaker 1: I was really happy for him. Yeah, right, yeah, I 2550 02:02:18,160 --> 02:02:21,480 Speaker 1: think I think you're right about that. Look Gruden is 2551 02:02:21,520 --> 02:02:24,880 Speaker 1: a good personality and a smart guy and as has 2552 02:02:24,920 --> 02:02:27,600 Speaker 1: been great on TV. But he's being tested now and 2553 02:02:28,160 --> 02:02:30,160 Speaker 1: based on the Khalil mac Trede and his role in that, 2554 02:02:30,280 --> 02:02:31,800 Speaker 1: you'd have to say that the test is not going 2555 02:02:31,880 --> 02:02:33,640 Speaker 1: so well for him. And they hired him to coach 2556 02:02:33,760 --> 02:02:35,600 Speaker 1: that team. But one of the things that where his 2557 02:02:35,720 --> 02:02:37,520 Speaker 1: weakness is the last time he was a head coach 2558 02:02:37,600 --> 02:02:39,480 Speaker 1: was the ability to build a team. And he's in 2559 02:02:39,520 --> 02:02:41,320 Speaker 1: a place in Oakland right now where he's got to 2560 02:02:41,360 --> 02:02:44,160 Speaker 1: build that roster. Reggie McKenzie had a plan, was going 2561 02:02:44,200 --> 02:02:45,920 Speaker 1: along with and he got that team to the point 2562 02:02:45,960 --> 02:02:47,600 Speaker 1: with Jack del Rio as head coach that they were 2563 02:02:47,640 --> 02:02:49,880 Speaker 1: on the cusp of doing something with the talent they had. 2564 02:02:50,360 --> 02:02:52,920 Speaker 1: And now through a series of events and now John 2565 02:02:52,960 --> 02:02:57,280 Speaker 1: Gruden coming in as a head coach, they're gonna looks 2566 02:02:57,320 --> 02:03:01,600 Speaker 1: like they're starting over. And John Grew is a great 2567 02:03:01,840 --> 02:03:04,200 Speaker 1: x is and oh guy, he's a great offensive mind. 2568 02:03:04,840 --> 02:03:08,760 Speaker 1: I don't think he is a roster builder, and that's 2569 02:03:08,800 --> 02:03:10,400 Speaker 1: I think what needs to be done in Oakland. So 2570 02:03:10,480 --> 02:03:12,280 Speaker 1: I think if he gets it done, it will be 2571 02:03:12,600 --> 02:03:15,080 Speaker 1: I think to me it'll be a surprising accomplishment for 2572 02:03:15,200 --> 02:03:17,560 Speaker 1: him because I haven't seen him do it before. How 2573 02:03:17,600 --> 02:03:20,040 Speaker 1: many games is Nathan Peterman start this year? We'll take 2574 02:03:20,040 --> 02:03:23,080 Speaker 1: your calls, will entertain your thoughts on that eighth three 2575 02:03:23,280 --> 02:03:26,320 Speaker 1: fifty toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two 2576 02:03:26,400 --> 02:03:30,320 Speaker 1: five fifty changing topics. A little bit just released by 2577 02:03:30,360 --> 02:03:33,280 Speaker 1: the Bills. On the Bills, a Twitter site introducing the 2578 02:03:33,360 --> 02:03:36,840 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen Buffalo Bills captains. They have six of them, 2579 02:03:37,000 --> 02:03:41,240 Speaker 1: two from offense, two from defense too. From special teams. 2580 02:03:42,000 --> 02:03:44,720 Speaker 1: They've got Taiwan Jones, as I would think a special 2581 02:03:44,760 --> 02:03:47,360 Speaker 1: team's captain will be your return man. Kyle Williams is 2582 02:03:47,400 --> 02:03:50,240 Speaker 1: back for another year as a captain. Stephen Haushka was 2583 02:03:50,280 --> 02:03:52,760 Speaker 1: a captain last year, another captain, another time as a 2584 02:03:52,800 --> 02:03:55,880 Speaker 1: captain this year on special teams. Lorenzo Alexander, who'll be 2585 02:03:55,920 --> 02:03:58,200 Speaker 1: with us on Friday. He is a Buffalo Bills captain 2586 02:03:58,280 --> 02:04:00,760 Speaker 1: this year. Lashawan McCoy is a I believe it's the 2587 02:04:00,760 --> 02:04:03,760 Speaker 1: first time for him at least in Buffalo. And Patrick DeMarco, 2588 02:04:03,920 --> 02:04:06,960 Speaker 1: fullback is a Buffalo Bills captain. The twenty eighteen Bill's 2589 02:04:07,000 --> 02:04:10,400 Speaker 1: captain's U named today and he thought, Steve, how did 2590 02:04:10,400 --> 02:04:12,720 Speaker 1: you guys do captains? Did you game by game or 2591 02:04:12,760 --> 02:04:14,320 Speaker 1: did you do him for the entire season? Do you 2592 02:04:14,400 --> 02:04:15,880 Speaker 1: remember you look like you got a plank with I 2593 02:04:15,920 --> 02:04:19,400 Speaker 1: can't remember. I was a captain for a while. Um, 2594 02:04:20,320 --> 02:04:23,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, all right, now you've immediately led 2595 02:04:23,640 --> 02:04:26,160 Speaker 1: to this question. It's not that important too the captains. Well, 2596 02:04:26,200 --> 02:04:29,320 Speaker 1: it's not hockey where the captains to play the parties 2597 02:04:29,360 --> 02:04:31,960 Speaker 1: and yeah you know, oh the captain, But it is, 2598 02:04:32,520 --> 02:04:34,560 Speaker 1: it is important now. I think it says something about 2599 02:04:34,560 --> 02:04:37,240 Speaker 1: the guys the team looks to and respects because of 2600 02:04:37,280 --> 02:04:38,800 Speaker 1: their work ethic and the kind of guy they are, 2601 02:04:38,880 --> 02:04:40,440 Speaker 1: the kind of teammate they are. I think it says 2602 02:04:40,480 --> 02:04:45,240 Speaker 1: something about who has a strong voice and who's respected 2603 02:04:45,280 --> 02:04:47,360 Speaker 1: in the locker room. It does say something about those 2604 02:04:47,400 --> 02:04:49,240 Speaker 1: players who get elected cat and I do you think 2605 02:04:49,600 --> 02:04:52,400 Speaker 1: maybe more similar to McDermott, I would think, because um, 2606 02:04:52,800 --> 02:04:56,520 Speaker 1: he's always talking about internal leadership and internal veteran leadership 2607 02:04:56,680 --> 02:04:58,840 Speaker 1: with those six kind of represent that Oh yeah, that's 2608 02:04:58,960 --> 02:05:02,760 Speaker 1: and those are the guys he's absolutely absolutely you you 2609 02:05:02,880 --> 02:05:06,840 Speaker 1: could have there may be two or three guys on 2610 02:05:06,960 --> 02:05:10,120 Speaker 1: that roster that you could probably throw into that group 2611 02:05:10,200 --> 02:05:12,560 Speaker 1: and be okay, But it's coming out those guys are 2612 02:05:12,600 --> 02:05:14,840 Speaker 1: in any group of leaders you pull out of that 2613 02:05:14,920 --> 02:05:17,640 Speaker 1: locker room. Yeah you could. You could Bill's fans here. 2614 02:05:18,480 --> 02:05:21,480 Speaker 1: You could have picked those six guys pretty easily and said, Wow, 2615 02:05:21,520 --> 02:05:24,200 Speaker 1: those are good. And I think I wouldn't. Leshaun McCoy. 2616 02:05:24,240 --> 02:05:25,720 Speaker 1: I think it's maybe a little bit of a surprise 2617 02:05:25,760 --> 02:05:28,840 Speaker 1: on Jones. Not really. Taiwan Jones is a guy who 2618 02:05:29,000 --> 02:05:33,560 Speaker 1: plays as hardcore special Teams, and you know, given the 2619 02:05:33,920 --> 02:05:38,000 Speaker 1: changeover that's happened this year, Um, you know Rod Streeter's 2620 02:05:38,040 --> 02:05:41,640 Speaker 1: not around. Um now, I think that doesn't surprise me 2621 02:05:41,680 --> 02:05:45,440 Speaker 1: at all, all right now. NFL True or false brought 2622 02:05:45,480 --> 02:05:48,440 Speaker 1: to you by Yancey's Fancy New York's artists in Cheese 2623 02:05:48,520 --> 02:05:51,320 Speaker 1: True false questions around the league Typically Steve and I 2624 02:05:51,480 --> 02:05:54,000 Speaker 1: kind of talk about him a little bit. Number one 2625 02:05:54,360 --> 02:05:57,280 Speaker 1: true or false. The failure to keep Khalil Mack for 2626 02:05:57,320 --> 02:06:00,760 Speaker 1: the Raiders falls on John Gruden. True false. I'm gonna 2627 02:06:00,760 --> 02:06:03,440 Speaker 1: say true based on what our guest Vic Tayfer had 2628 02:06:03,480 --> 02:06:05,800 Speaker 1: to say earlier today, based on everything I've read, based 2629 02:06:05,800 --> 02:06:08,000 Speaker 1: on the way you kind of sense that that Raider's 2630 02:06:08,800 --> 02:06:11,160 Speaker 1: decision making group is made up. Yeah, this is a 2631 02:06:11,240 --> 02:06:14,080 Speaker 1: Gruden thing. I don't get it. I don't understand. I 2632 02:06:14,160 --> 02:06:16,000 Speaker 1: don't think it was his decision along, but I don't 2633 02:06:16,040 --> 02:06:18,880 Speaker 1: get what he missed to think that it'd be okay 2634 02:06:19,200 --> 02:06:22,000 Speaker 1: to keep Khalil Mack. I think they'll pay him. They'll 2635 02:06:22,000 --> 02:06:24,400 Speaker 1: pay dearly for that one. Steve, Absolutely, I think it's 2636 02:06:24,880 --> 02:06:26,960 Speaker 1: all John Gruden's call. If he wanted to pay him, 2637 02:06:26,960 --> 02:06:28,600 Speaker 1: they would have found a way to do it, and 2638 02:06:29,080 --> 02:06:33,080 Speaker 1: he opted not to. There's no way Khalil Mack was 2639 02:06:33,160 --> 02:06:35,720 Speaker 1: in any jeopardy of doing anything other than being a 2640 02:06:35,840 --> 02:06:37,880 Speaker 1: Raider until John Gruden got there, So I think he 2641 02:06:38,000 --> 02:06:39,640 Speaker 1: got to lay this right at the feet of John Gruden. 2642 02:06:39,760 --> 02:06:42,440 Speaker 1: Is a philosophical decision. Doesn't mean John Gruden doesn't know 2643 02:06:42,880 --> 02:06:45,680 Speaker 1: doesn't know that Khalil Mack is a fantastic football player, 2644 02:06:45,960 --> 02:06:48,680 Speaker 1: or even dislikes him. But John Gruden has a way 2645 02:06:48,760 --> 02:06:52,240 Speaker 1: that he wants to do this, and and circumstances have 2646 02:06:52,320 --> 02:06:54,240 Speaker 1: come about where they're gonna they're gonna break away from 2647 02:06:54,280 --> 02:06:56,200 Speaker 1: it and go down a different paths. So I think 2648 02:06:56,240 --> 02:06:58,360 Speaker 1: it's all on the head coach, all right. Number two 2649 02:06:58,600 --> 02:07:02,480 Speaker 1: NFL true or false Steelers should be worried about Laby 2650 02:07:02,520 --> 02:07:05,440 Speaker 1: On Bell's absence. We had the story. In the update, 2651 02:07:06,880 --> 02:07:09,440 Speaker 1: the GM sounded a little worried. The teammates said, he'll 2652 02:07:09,480 --> 02:07:11,400 Speaker 1: be here Wednesday, don't worry about it, he'll be here tomorrow. 2653 02:07:14,280 --> 02:07:15,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say yes. I think they should be a 2654 02:07:16,000 --> 02:07:17,640 Speaker 1: little bit worried. I don't think it's a make or 2655 02:07:17,680 --> 02:07:20,720 Speaker 1: break thing for Pittsburgh season, but look, he is one 2656 02:07:20,800 --> 02:07:22,560 Speaker 1: of their key guys, right, one of their top three 2657 02:07:22,600 --> 02:07:26,040 Speaker 1: guys missing. I know he's done it before. I understand that, 2658 02:07:26,200 --> 02:07:28,040 Speaker 1: but can you keep getting away with that? Laby On 2659 02:07:28,120 --> 02:07:30,280 Speaker 1: Bell doesn't show up yesterday, really, first day of this 2660 02:07:30,720 --> 02:07:33,600 Speaker 1: longer practice week, Steelers should be worried, I would think, yes, 2661 02:07:33,680 --> 02:07:36,280 Speaker 1: a little bit true. I'm gonna go through it. I'm 2662 02:07:36,280 --> 02:07:41,080 Speaker 1: gonna stay false just because not yet tomorrow. If he 2663 02:07:41,080 --> 02:07:43,600 Speaker 1: doesn't show up tomorrow, then yeah, then I'm worried. But 2664 02:07:43,680 --> 02:07:46,320 Speaker 1: today I'm not, and I have no reason. And there's 2665 02:07:46,440 --> 02:07:48,920 Speaker 1: rumblings coming out already that this is what they expect 2666 02:07:48,960 --> 02:07:51,480 Speaker 1: to happen. His teammates expect him to come in on 2667 02:07:51,640 --> 02:07:53,600 Speaker 1: ready for to put in a full game week before 2668 02:07:53,680 --> 02:07:57,000 Speaker 1: Week one. So no, today, I don't worry Tomorrow I 2669 02:07:57,120 --> 02:07:59,840 Speaker 1: do finally, NFL true or false, this is a very 2670 02:08:00,000 --> 02:08:02,720 Speaker 1: interesting one. Ched Kelly, the Western New York native, obviously 2671 02:08:02,840 --> 02:08:05,960 Speaker 1: now in positions at Denver as the second quarterback, went 2672 02:08:06,000 --> 02:08:08,480 Speaker 1: from practice squad right a year ago to number two, 2673 02:08:09,040 --> 02:08:12,840 Speaker 1: and the supposition here to her false, only Chad Kelly 2674 02:08:12,920 --> 02:08:17,240 Speaker 1: now can save John Elway's reputation as a quarterback evaluator. 2675 02:08:17,440 --> 02:08:21,480 Speaker 1: True false. What do you think? I think that's false? 2676 02:08:22,320 --> 02:08:24,200 Speaker 1: I was talking, we talked about earlier. This is the 2677 02:08:24,280 --> 02:08:27,840 Speaker 1: Paxson Lynch brock Osweiler debate as well. John Elway put 2678 02:08:27,920 --> 02:08:29,840 Speaker 1: both those guys on this roster. Neither one of them 2679 02:08:29,920 --> 02:08:33,600 Speaker 1: worked out. Just because Chad Kelly works out or doesn't 2680 02:08:33,640 --> 02:08:36,040 Speaker 1: work out, John Elway picked up. Remember Chad Kelly was 2681 02:08:36,080 --> 02:08:38,080 Speaker 1: mister irrelevant. He's there the last pick of the draft. Yes, 2682 02:08:39,720 --> 02:08:42,280 Speaker 1: but he's now their backup quarterback. And the fact that 2683 02:08:43,080 --> 02:08:46,240 Speaker 1: John Elway got him with the seventh pick, the last 2684 02:08:46,280 --> 02:08:50,080 Speaker 1: pick of that draft, and he outperformed Paxson Lynch and 2685 02:08:51,760 --> 02:08:55,680 Speaker 1: ostensibly brock Oswyler as well. No, I mean I think 2686 02:08:55,720 --> 02:08:58,160 Speaker 1: the guy that is the key is the guy taking 2687 02:08:58,240 --> 02:09:01,000 Speaker 1: snaps Case Keenum. Yes, that's the guy. He's the guy 2688 02:09:01,080 --> 02:09:03,560 Speaker 1: that is not Chad Kelly. It's it's Case Keenham. Now, 2689 02:09:03,600 --> 02:09:06,840 Speaker 1: if Chad Kelly takes over for Case Keenham, which in 2690 02:09:06,960 --> 02:09:11,680 Speaker 1: this moment today I'm predicting he will really yeah, uh soon. 2691 02:09:13,040 --> 02:09:16,360 Speaker 1: I don't think Case Keenam finishes the season as their starter. Wow, 2692 02:09:16,600 --> 02:09:19,080 Speaker 1: I think I think Chad Kelly is in the game, 2693 02:09:19,120 --> 02:09:20,680 Speaker 1: and I think he's gonna I think he's gonna play 2694 02:09:20,720 --> 02:09:23,840 Speaker 1: well for them. Um so does Alway get a pass? Well, 2695 02:09:24,000 --> 02:09:27,000 Speaker 1: you know, no, he doesn't get Lynch. But look at 2696 02:09:27,000 --> 02:09:29,240 Speaker 1: that seventh round pick. Yeah, who's starting now? Is that 2697 02:09:29,440 --> 02:09:32,480 Speaker 1: enough to get Elway off the hook? Off the listen? 2698 02:09:32,560 --> 02:09:35,960 Speaker 1: If they if they're winning, listen, John always the guy 2699 02:09:36,000 --> 02:09:38,280 Speaker 1: that lurd Peyton Manning there and got those guys to 2700 02:09:38,400 --> 02:09:41,640 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl with Peyton Manning who couldn't throw a 2701 02:09:41,800 --> 02:09:46,480 Speaker 1: ping pong ball across the room. Yeah, he gets a pass. Okay, 2702 02:09:46,600 --> 02:09:49,360 Speaker 1: he is John Elway after all. If there's a reason 2703 02:09:49,440 --> 02:09:51,920 Speaker 1: he's John Elway, he's John Elway because he was a 2704 02:09:51,960 --> 02:09:54,600 Speaker 1: great player. He is he a good general manager. They 2705 02:09:54,680 --> 02:09:57,920 Speaker 1: won a couple of Super Bowls. Can only Chad Kelly 2706 02:09:57,960 --> 02:10:01,160 Speaker 1: can save Alway's reputation. I think Keenan has a lot 2707 02:10:01,200 --> 02:10:02,640 Speaker 1: more to do with that. False As far as the 2708 02:10:02,680 --> 02:10:05,360 Speaker 1: reputation NFL true or False. Brought to you by Yancey's 2709 02:10:05,400 --> 02:10:07,400 Speaker 1: Fancy New York's artist and Gee Steve and I back 2710 02:10:07,440 --> 02:10:09,480 Speaker 1: with more in a moment One Bills Live from One 2711 02:10:09,520 --> 02:10:28,040 Speaker 1: Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio. What can we learn 2712 02:10:28,120 --> 02:10:30,200 Speaker 1: in today's show. It's brought to you by Advanced Alarm, 2713 02:10:30,280 --> 02:10:33,000 Speaker 1: providing Western New York's homes and businesses with the finest 2714 02:10:33,040 --> 02:10:35,600 Speaker 1: and security and home theater. He preferred Alarm and home 2715 02:10:35,640 --> 02:10:37,680 Speaker 1: theater provider of the Buffalo Bills. Peter King joined the 2716 02:10:37,760 --> 02:10:39,280 Speaker 1: City will be with us every Tuesday now for the 2717 02:10:39,320 --> 02:10:41,800 Speaker 1: regular season. He talked about the Bill's decision to go 2718 02:10:41,880 --> 02:10:46,400 Speaker 1: with Nathan Peterman as their starter this Sunday. I thought, 2719 02:10:46,480 --> 02:10:49,480 Speaker 1: after the Cincinnati preseason game, I thought that was a 2720 02:10:49,880 --> 02:10:55,640 Speaker 1: startling first half to watch, and what I saw in 2721 02:10:55,800 --> 02:10:58,520 Speaker 1: that I had had halftime. I said, the Bills can't 2722 02:10:58,640 --> 02:11:01,640 Speaker 1: start Josh Allen. You know, they got to start either 2723 02:11:01,720 --> 02:11:06,240 Speaker 1: mccaren or Peterman because you can't put your rookie quarterback 2724 02:11:06,920 --> 02:11:10,760 Speaker 1: behind an offensive line that either had a bad day 2725 02:11:11,080 --> 02:11:14,320 Speaker 1: or stinx. I mean, you just can't do it. So 2726 02:11:14,720 --> 02:11:18,680 Speaker 1: I looked at it in that on that day and said, 2727 02:11:19,320 --> 02:11:21,880 Speaker 1: you know Josh Allen needs not only to learn a 2728 02:11:21,920 --> 02:11:24,720 Speaker 1: little bit more to learn to especially to get the 2729 02:11:24,800 --> 02:11:27,960 Speaker 1: ball out quicker. But I also think you don't want 2730 02:11:27,960 --> 02:11:29,640 Speaker 1: to put him in harm's way like that. I think 2731 02:11:29,680 --> 02:11:32,080 Speaker 1: the Bills make the right call. Peter King talking about 2732 02:11:32,080 --> 02:11:34,360 Speaker 1: the decision to start to Nathan Peterman. Also on the show, 2733 02:11:34,360 --> 02:11:37,520 Speaker 1: we talked about Khalil Mack traded away from Oakland to Chicago. 2734 02:11:37,600 --> 02:11:39,440 Speaker 1: Over the weekend, we talked with Vic Tafer of the 2735 02:11:39,520 --> 02:11:42,760 Speaker 1: Athletic website covering the Raiders, and you talk about the 2736 02:11:42,880 --> 02:11:47,240 Speaker 1: Raiders decision to trade away Kalil Mack. I talked to 2737 02:11:47,360 --> 02:11:50,000 Speaker 1: Relegid McKenzie and John Gordon the last few days. NICETI, 2738 02:11:50,160 --> 02:11:52,320 Speaker 1: I'm scritch Mahad too. I don't know I understand it. 2739 02:11:52,440 --> 02:11:55,280 Speaker 1: I think my take is a panicked I think they 2740 02:11:56,200 --> 02:11:59,040 Speaker 1: didn't really have a plan, you know, to match it 2741 02:11:59,240 --> 02:12:01,520 Speaker 1: or to have the money hum wanted to get. I 2742 02:12:01,640 --> 02:12:04,320 Speaker 1: think they didn't weren't proactive enough over the last couple 2743 02:12:04,360 --> 02:12:06,680 Speaker 1: of years, and they're kind of started taking trade offers 2744 02:12:06,720 --> 02:12:08,640 Speaker 1: and they reached the point I think on Friday night, 2745 02:12:09,040 --> 02:12:10,320 Speaker 1: but they kind of saying, you know what if we 2746 02:12:10,400 --> 02:12:13,080 Speaker 1: could offer two first round picks. We're gonna do it, 2747 02:12:13,240 --> 02:12:15,880 Speaker 1: and the Bears. The Bears jumped into you know, which 2748 02:12:15,960 --> 02:12:18,360 Speaker 1: is a smart move. And you gotta I think a 2749 02:12:18,440 --> 02:12:21,120 Speaker 1: future Hall of Fame player in his prime, which is uh. 2750 02:12:21,400 --> 02:12:24,000 Speaker 1: I can I can recall made teams trading guys like that. 2751 02:12:24,800 --> 02:12:27,960 Speaker 1: You don't get that much, Steve, and we know we're 2752 02:12:28,040 --> 02:12:29,760 Speaker 1: looking at a scratcher, and hey, why would the Raiders 2753 02:12:29,800 --> 02:12:32,200 Speaker 1: do that? Nobody written, very few of you have said 2754 02:12:32,240 --> 02:12:34,480 Speaker 1: the same for Chicago. Gave up. You gave up two 2755 02:12:34,480 --> 02:12:36,120 Speaker 1: first round picks. You're paying him a tons of money. 2756 02:12:36,520 --> 02:12:39,320 Speaker 1: That's what you do for great players, for like lifetime 2757 02:12:39,360 --> 02:12:42,040 Speaker 1: players like Khalil mac That's what you do. I think 2758 02:12:42,080 --> 02:12:46,120 Speaker 1: the most disturbing or concerning thing for Raiders fans is 2759 02:12:46,160 --> 02:12:47,720 Speaker 1: the fact that you got a guy that covers them. 2760 02:12:47,800 --> 02:12:51,200 Speaker 1: And just talk to John Gruden and Reggie McKenzie over 2761 02:12:51,240 --> 02:12:53,600 Speaker 1: the last weekend over this thing, and he said, they 2762 02:12:53,640 --> 02:12:57,120 Speaker 1: had no plan. Yeah, they had no plan. They got 2763 02:12:57,200 --> 02:12:58,720 Speaker 1: they panic, they didn't know what they were gonna do, 2764 02:12:58,840 --> 02:13:01,440 Speaker 1: and they got backed in to a corner by circumstance 2765 02:13:01,760 --> 02:13:04,640 Speaker 1: and time and had to take the best deal they 2766 02:13:04,680 --> 02:13:08,120 Speaker 1: could get. And it was, you know, it was It's crazy, 2767 02:13:08,360 --> 02:13:10,920 Speaker 1: it's nuts, it doesn't make sense. So I think that's 2768 02:13:11,280 --> 02:13:12,880 Speaker 1: you talk. You can talk about all you want about 2769 02:13:12,920 --> 02:13:16,320 Speaker 1: the coaching staff here in Buffalo having this quote unquote process, 2770 02:13:16,400 --> 02:13:18,880 Speaker 1: and everybody kind of uses it a catch phrase. Listen, 2771 02:13:19,320 --> 02:13:21,560 Speaker 1: a plan is a plan, and it helps when things 2772 02:13:21,680 --> 02:13:24,200 Speaker 1: come down that you don't expect. On Twitter today, we 2773 02:13:24,280 --> 02:13:27,240 Speaker 1: asked you how many starts will Nathan Peterman get. Most 2774 02:13:27,280 --> 02:13:29,280 Speaker 1: of you think he's going to get somewhere between five 2775 02:13:29,400 --> 02:13:33,120 Speaker 1: and eight starts this season for the Buffalo Bills. Eight 2776 02:13:33,200 --> 02:13:35,400 Speaker 1: fifty percent of you say that, twenty seven percent say 2777 02:13:35,400 --> 02:13:38,240 Speaker 1: four or fewer, twenty three percent nine or more. Thanks 2778 02:13:38,280 --> 02:13:41,240 Speaker 1: for our production assistants, George Blast, Steff Colton, Nick Thomas, Homilder, 2779 02:13:41,320 --> 02:13:44,680 Speaker 1: Kelly Rude, JJ Turrito, Kevin Card, James Roebel, our producer 2780 02:13:44,840 --> 02:13:47,160 Speaker 1: Jay Harris. We're back tomorrow at twelve noon. It's a 2781 02:13:47,200 --> 02:13:48,960 Speaker 1: practice day. We'll see you tomorrow at noon. And One 2782 02:13:49,000 --> 02:13:52,200 Speaker 1: Bills Live from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio