WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Sounding Off

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 1>screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World Headquarters at the

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<v Speaker 1>Star in Frisco. And now your hosts Isaiah stand back,

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<v Speaker 1>heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips and Kyle Yeoman's It is

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<v Speaker 1>a beautiful Tuesday edition of Talking Cowboys here from the

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<v Speaker 1>s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star in Frisco. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a byeweek edition. Oh wait, it's not a byeweek kind

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<v Speaker 1>of sort of. It kind of is a byeweek, though

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<v Speaker 1>at least it feels like it's a byeweek. We'll take it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'll take it? Or will you take it?

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely take it. Heck, well will you take it?

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<v Speaker 1>I will? Oh he's showing off the Christmas tree, Rob

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<v Speaker 1>Rob bye week are you taking it? Leaving it? What

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<v Speaker 1>do you? I'll take a bye, I'll take a mini bye.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a Christmas tree for you coming up later

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<v Speaker 1>this weekend on your Christmas tree. Wait, so on the weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not doing it? You're not starting now on the

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas tree. No, just give me till the end. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna have a tree off. Yeah, we're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>a tree off. Am I gonna have to am, I

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to bring mine to the studio and put

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<v Speaker 1>it in here. Chris is probably not gonna like that

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<v Speaker 1>very much, but I would no, But you're the prop

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<v Speaker 1>guy on the show, so do it. Okay? Fine? Cool,

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<v Speaker 1>Rob said I could. I'll just tell him. I'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>everybody that, like whenever I walk in with a full

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas tree, you you have a Christmas tree, You're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna put up. I don't. I don't have one up.

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<v Speaker 1>My question because I know Heckman has had his tree

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<v Speaker 1>up since uh since Halloween? But did you do you

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<v Speaker 1>have an elf on a shelf? Heckman? Do you guys

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<v Speaker 1>do elf on a shelf? Yes? We do? Did you

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<v Speaker 1>kick get all? You did your what's what's your else name?

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<v Speaker 1>What's your else name? I can't say. That's embarrassing. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna say tup tupacow. Yeah, okay, that's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>fa that's pretty awesome. But I'm learning more about you

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<v Speaker 1>guys as weeks every day. But hey, that's how it

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<v Speaker 1>is here on this show. Cowboys. What's up? Rob? That's awesome?

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<v Speaker 1>When are we going to break down the Ravens like

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<v Speaker 1>Monday of next week? Like, what do you want to

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<v Speaker 1>do the rest of them? See Friday. Here's the thing

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's kind of where I was leading with this,

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<v Speaker 1>is that the Dallas Cowboys who played the Washington football

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<v Speaker 1>team on Thursday, we broke down that game at nauseum

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday and we were going to continue into today, and

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<v Speaker 1>we still are going to continue in today because there's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing else related to go go after. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that felt like forever Thursday to Monday to finally break

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<v Speaker 1>down that game on this show. Well, now we've got

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<v Speaker 1>to wait forever because we've got till next Tuesday, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's just scheduled because tomorrow is when the Ravens and

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<v Speaker 1>the Steelers are going to play due to COVID nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>protocols and trying to get the Ravens outbreak contained. And

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<v Speaker 1>then the Ravens and Cowboys are scheduled to play next Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 1>push back again twelve days in between the Washington game

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<v Speaker 1>and the raven game. A Ravens game coming up for

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys, and like I, like Rob said earlier it's

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<v Speaker 1>a mini bye week. But at the same time, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of stuff we can talk about. But I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know when we'll start that that breakdown. Friday, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we start we start breaking down that game. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we could just go six days, just go on one

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<v Speaker 1>player at a time, just go all the way down

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<v Speaker 1>the roster for both teams. They just do that, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I mean that would work. He liked that idea.

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<v Speaker 1>I do. I like that. That's dangerous though, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I like it. I mean, the NFL man blessed hard.

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<v Speaker 1>They've had a lot to try and digest and get

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<v Speaker 1>through this whole of a nineteen twenty situation, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>doing the best that they can. I mean, the Steelers

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<v Speaker 1>in the Ravens game has been moved what four times

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<v Speaker 1>now yep. So I mean I think we're just thinking

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<v Speaker 1>our lucky stars that they're actually going to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to play a game. But even for our game, I

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<v Speaker 1>think if there are any more any more of an

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<v Speaker 1>outbreak than there already has been with Baltimore, our game

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<v Speaker 1>may be in question. It's tough and rob whenever you

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<v Speaker 1>look at the scheduling and everything that's involved here with

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<v Speaker 1>these two games. Talking about the Steelers game for the

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<v Speaker 1>Ravens and then of course Cowboys Ravens. Is this something

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<v Speaker 1>that the Cowboys needed in terms of a little extra

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<v Speaker 1>time after what was ended up being a blowout loss

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<v Speaker 1>in Washington, a very emotional week last week. Is this

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<v Speaker 1>something that the doctor ordered for the Cowboys or is

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<v Speaker 1>this something that you didn't necessarily want for this team?

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<v Speaker 1>I think they definitely need it. That's just me speaking

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<v Speaker 1>the outside. I know McCarthy. Mike mc arthy said on

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<v Speaker 1>Friday that you know, will will adjust if we still

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<v Speaker 1>play that you know by that at that point they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know if they were playing this week or next

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<v Speaker 1>and but he said, you know, we'll take it because

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<v Speaker 1>I think not only from a from a physical standpoint, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>the injuries have been a factor because, like you said, Kyle, emotionally, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>this has just been really hard man. I mean, and

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<v Speaker 1>and I think Mickey said it, um. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>say during on Thanksgiving at the game, you know a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of young guys on the team that probably have

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<v Speaker 1>not experienced something like losing someone close to him, like

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<v Speaker 1>like Marcus paul Um and really and the way it happened,

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<v Speaker 1>it happened in the building where where he suffered that

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<v Speaker 1>that emergency, and so I think they definitely could use it.

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<v Speaker 1>And now the thing about it is, what's what's interesting

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<v Speaker 1>is you play next Tuesday, but it's a road trip.

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<v Speaker 1>You're probably gonna get back early hours Wednesday morning, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you've got to turn around and travel. I would

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<v Speaker 1>assume Saturday the twelfth to go play at Cincinnati on

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<v Speaker 1>the road. That's that's doing them no favors with the schedule.

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<v Speaker 1>But but Heckma said it too. Uh, they're the league

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<v Speaker 1>is in unchartered territory here and they're just trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get through the season the best way they know how

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<v Speaker 1>and also give the Ravens some chances to get to

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<v Speaker 1>get healthy because you know, this isn't well. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know exactly what caused it, but with an outbreak, they're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to help them as much as they can. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the league, like you guys already said, the

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<v Speaker 1>league trying to figure it out. I think they're they're

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<v Speaker 1>in a bad spot. Um, but you know, I'm hearing

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<v Speaker 1>some things out of Baltimore that you know, if they're

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<v Speaker 1>forced to play it, that they they might do a

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<v Speaker 1>little striky strike and all the kinds of other stuff man.

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<v Speaker 1>So um, but there's there's there's implications of that as well,

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<v Speaker 1>because the NFLPA and in the league and lawsuits and

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<v Speaker 1>all kinds of stuff. So this week is crazy. I

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<v Speaker 1>think all of us just have our antennas up just

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<v Speaker 1>trying figure out what the heck is going on. So

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<v Speaker 1>you're saying, if they're forced to play, the players, there's

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<v Speaker 1>there's word that the players are going to try to

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<v Speaker 1>do a strike because they're saying that they're being exposed

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<v Speaker 1>to you know, it's it's dangerous, dangerous conditions. I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>at least for the other perspective from a league standpoint,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be not okay to take away game checks.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's kind of where I was confused, or that's

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<v Speaker 1>where I'm confused by that. Just the fact that if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't play, you're not gonna get paid. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think you could say that about both the Cowboys and

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<v Speaker 1>the Ravens if that game's canceled. The Cowboys were sitting

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<v Speaker 1>here saying, well, what did we do wrong? What happened

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<v Speaker 1>with us? Why is our game check getting taken away? So,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's so many different layers and factors to

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<v Speaker 1>this thing. It's crazy to talk about because, I mean, one,

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<v Speaker 1>it's unpresident and we never never had to experience anything

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<v Speaker 1>like this. I mean the season in general. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>we had a backup, backup, backup wide receiver playing quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>for the Denver Broccos last I mean, and that was

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<v Speaker 1>that was league induced. I mean, that's what that's what

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<v Speaker 1>we're dealing with right now with this COVID nineteen protocol.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you were a player, what side would you

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<v Speaker 1>be on? Would you want to be on the safe

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<v Speaker 1>side or would you want to be on the side

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<v Speaker 1>of let's play, let's let's do our job kind of thing? Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean back then, I didn't have any kids, so true,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean I trust, I know, I know

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<v Speaker 1>specifically here, every time we come in the building, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they're they're testing out the wazoo. So um,

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<v Speaker 1>I know that they're doing everything that they possibly can

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<v Speaker 1>to try to keep people safe. Um. At the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the day, it's it's a it's an airborne disease

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<v Speaker 1>that you really can't contain, right. So um, at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the day, there you know, people aren't getting

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<v Speaker 1>diagnosed as soon as they have on set, right they're

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<v Speaker 1>being diagnosed days after um, you know they actually contracted.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's it's scary. It's a scary place for players,

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<v Speaker 1>especially those guys who are who are not single and bachelors,

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<v Speaker 1>the guys that have to go back home to their

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<v Speaker 1>families and and kids and all that. So it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>two different mindsets. I think, you know, the bachelor, the

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<v Speaker 1>bachelor guy that just came in the league versus a

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<v Speaker 1>family man. Um. I ran into a guy the other

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<v Speaker 1>day at the dealership and he was he's a basketball player,

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<v Speaker 1>NBA guy. He just he took the year off just

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<v Speaker 1>because he's like, it's just stop. Yeah. He's like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just I'm not playing. I'm not doing that to my family. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that's crazy. I mean at the dealership. At the dealership,

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<v Speaker 1>wow with an NBA guy. Wow, that wasn't at the

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<v Speaker 1>mississ b see A Ford was go yow, we know

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<v Speaker 1>hey money he had was calling out Isaiah again for

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<v Speaker 1>the second straight day in that regard. Now giving it

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<v Speaker 1>back if you're looking at it from a cowboys perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know, the rest is something that's gonna that's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna play a factor. And of course you're you're excited

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<v Speaker 1>about a couple extra days to kind of sit here

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<v Speaker 1>and rest. But this is also a chance that the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys have to to it's a chance to mess things

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<v Speaker 1>up to I mean, I remember, even from an employee perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys hr and overhanging or saying that, hey, you

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<v Speaker 1>got to stay home on the bye week and bye

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<v Speaker 1>weekend Thanksgiving and saying, hey, be careful. That's that's really

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<v Speaker 1>kind of what the overhanging arching of it is. This

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of unregulated, or at least it feels that way, Rob.

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<v Speaker 1>Whenever it comes to the twelve days that you're waiting

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<v Speaker 1>to play this football game, this team has to show

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<v Speaker 1>discipline in this week as at the same time, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you're still gonna have practices, You're still gonna have things

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<v Speaker 1>that you're gonna have to work on, but you also

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<v Speaker 1>got to stay safe outside of that. And that's something

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<v Speaker 1>that I think is another challenge placed on Mike McCarthy

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<v Speaker 1>staff that I don't think we've actually hit up, Rob. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but I mean they're they're going to be back in

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<v Speaker 1>the building here at some point this week. I know

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<v Speaker 1>the league asked all teams just as a safety precaution

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<v Speaker 1>coming off of the Thanksgiving holiday, stay home work virtually

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<v Speaker 1>Monday Tuesday of this week, and then I think the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys were set to get back into practice on Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 1>now pushing the game back another day. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if they're going to change that up, because you could

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<v Speaker 1>do you could do your Wednesday Thursday schedule really on

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<v Speaker 1>Friday Saturday this week. But to your point, it's all

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<v Speaker 1>about the protocols and sticking to it, and that's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what happened with Denver. There was a breakdown in

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<v Speaker 1>protocol with their quarterbacks, and that's why, you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>not only didn't have quarterbacks, that's why I guess the

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<v Speaker 1>league one had and said let's play the game. So

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<v Speaker 1>but I think the Cowboys are leading, maybe setting the

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<v Speaker 1>right example in terms of bubbling up with the staff

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<v Speaker 1>at a hotel. Now they have better, the amenities here

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<v Speaker 1>are better, and then I would imagine any team in

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<v Speaker 1>the league. It's unbelievable, it's first class. But that might

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<v Speaker 1>be a way that the way that teams have to

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<v Speaker 1>go down the stretch here to ensure as much safety

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<v Speaker 1>as possible to get through this season. The Cowboys are

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<v Speaker 1>kind of setting that example. I want to know what

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<v Speaker 1>Seattle is doing. I found out last night watching the

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<v Speaker 1>Seattle game. Seattle is the only team in the league

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<v Speaker 1>that hasn't had a case on their team yet. Yeah, somebody,

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Leeper right, brought that brought up that point on

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<v Speaker 1>the broadcast. I thought the same stat kind of poked

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<v Speaker 1>in my head. It was like, my goodness, that's pretty impressive.

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<v Speaker 1>And also not to mention, I wonder what their amenities are, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you were up there, it is it anything.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no hotel right next door? Yeah, hotel. There's no

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<v Speaker 1>Omni next door. I can tell you that is right

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<v Speaker 1>there on the waterfront. I mean, most guys live relatively close.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean Seattle is a lot different in Texas,

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<v Speaker 1>in Dallas a little bit, and they've they've locked things down.

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<v Speaker 1>Things are pretty much locked down back that's a good

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<v Speaker 1>back home Seattle. So it's a lot different environment. Guys

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<v Speaker 1>were able to leave here go out and eat at restaurants.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm not hanging out with I'm just going

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<v Speaker 1>out to eat. I'm eating outside, you know, whatever it

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<v Speaker 1>may be. But you're still out socializing Versus a Seattle

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have that option. That's that probably plays a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good factor into it. Now. Whenever it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>this week in the Cowboys perspective, where do they want

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<v Speaker 1>to start? Kind of leaning in terms of of work

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<v Speaker 1>do you think? And Rob, I'm kind of going back

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<v Speaker 1>to what you said a second ago. You said they

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<v Speaker 1>could start as soon as tomorrow in terms of their

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<v Speaker 1>practice schedule. But do you think they'll push it back

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<v Speaker 1>or you think they'll take these next couple of days

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<v Speaker 1>to rest up and then finally get into practice. I

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<v Speaker 1>honestly don't know. We haven't gotten an adjusted schedule, if

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<v Speaker 1>there is one. I just know that that Monday two

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<v Speaker 1>they were going to get back in the in meeting

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<v Speaker 1>space virtually today players basically back back to work off

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<v Speaker 1>the holiday today and then I think they were going

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<v Speaker 1>to do something Friday or Wednesday on the field. Now

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<v Speaker 1>it is an opportunity even if Mike McCarthy wants to

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<v Speaker 1>just to give them another day or just have meetings

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<v Speaker 1>on Wednesday and just get off your feet some more.

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<v Speaker 1>Um So we'll see how they do it. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>usually they've got kind of three day set Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they would travel. So you can you can

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<v Speaker 1>do you can knock that out all on the weekend

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<v Speaker 1>and then have your travel day on Monday. I'm losing

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<v Speaker 1>track of my days. I don't know it's Tuesday fifty

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<v Speaker 1>Tuesday exactly. No, Kyle, let me just add to that.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me add to that that you know, for the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>this is our football teams are. For the Dallas Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a logistical nightmare, especially dealing with the schedule changing.

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<v Speaker 1>You know how how much uh NFL coaches just create

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<v Speaker 1>that structure, and that's what you get. In the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything gets pretty much structured out. You're off on these days,

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<v Speaker 1>you practice on these days, you install your game playing

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<v Speaker 1>on certain day. But this year has been completely knocked

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<v Speaker 1>off kilter and you have no idea how this is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go or the scheduling is going to go. But

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<v Speaker 1>for this team, coming off of that loss to the

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<v Speaker 1>football team, they may want to try and incorporate a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more rest, especially knowing that the game now

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be moved out to Tuesday. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be interesting how they played and how the week

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<v Speaker 1>is going to form. Well, it's gonna be interesting to

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<v Speaker 1>see how the week is going to form. From a

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<v Speaker 1>talking Cowboys perspective, because we've got to find topics to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about all week long. So tomorrow homeborway assignment, tone

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<v Speaker 1>work assignment for you all. I expect a four thousand

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<v Speaker 1>word essay on whether or not the Cowboys or the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL should go into a bubble for the NFL playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>So debate back and forth. We'll read them live on

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<v Speaker 1>the air, and that's how tomorrow's show. So with that

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<v Speaker 1>being said, I'm totally joking for everybody listening, please tune

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<v Speaker 1>in tomorrow. We will not be doing that anyway. San

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<v Speaker 1>Francisco is doing something like it that you're not wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not wrong. Well they're kind of forced to, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of have to. Yeah. But with that being said, it

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<v Speaker 1>is a fan on the fifty Tuesday, and we've got

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<v Speaker 1>I need to just stop talking. Oh man. Well, anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>with that being said, now pack him on. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to hear what you have to say here in

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<v Speaker 1>the next final next couple seconds, because I know you're

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<v Speaker 1>about to say something along the lines that I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to hear. Anyways, let's go to our first fans

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<v Speaker 1>on the fifty question, starting with Gary, Well, wait, actually

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot the stinger. Okay, wait, fans on the fifty,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it didn't fire off. This is this is this

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<v Speaker 1>is not just this is unfortunate, this is this is sad.

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<v Speaker 1>It's okay, though, It's okay. Chris Beams always doing fantastic

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<v Speaker 1>stuff in the back. So let's go to Gary's question,

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<v Speaker 1>the question for the fans on the fifty. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>appear that Ezekiel Elliott fits in Kellen Moore's pass happy offense.

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<v Speaker 1>With that being said, he gave us multiple choices here,

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<v Speaker 1>So so listen up. So A with the front office

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<v Speaker 1>this season, are you going to try and move on

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<v Speaker 1>from Zeke? B? Are you gonna cut ties with Kellen Moore?

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<v Speaker 1>Or see do they run it back next season? Let's

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<v Speaker 1>go with Hekma first. I'm I'm going to see run

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<v Speaker 1>it back. I mean, this is uh gonna be this

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna go down for Zeke is probably one of

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<v Speaker 1>one of his worst statistical years, and so I would

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<v Speaker 1>like to see what he looks like with a healthy

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line. I mean we've we've pretty much just that's

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<v Speaker 1>the point that we have to make with Zeke is

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<v Speaker 1>that he's running behind this makeshift offensive line. Is hard

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<v Speaker 1>for him to try to be the running back that

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<v Speaker 1>we've known him to be in the past. But I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't say that I would rush to get rid of

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<v Speaker 1>one of the probably one of the best running backs

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<v Speaker 1>in the league to this point. Rob see run it

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<v Speaker 1>back and basically to what Hekma said that if they

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<v Speaker 1>could take care of the ball next year with Dak

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<v Speaker 1>with you think a healthy offen line, I would imagine

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<v Speaker 1>they put themselves in position to have more leads in

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<v Speaker 1>games and you can actually use ze because they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>give themselves chances and some of it was equ with

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<v Speaker 1>the fumbles, but they haven't given themselves chances to run

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the times because of turnovers and because

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<v Speaker 1>of deficits and at times situationally you've seen Kelly Moore

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<v Speaker 1>go to the pass and lean pass, so there's been

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<v Speaker 1>that too, But I think they need to be I

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<v Speaker 1>think from a play calling standpoint and from a personnel standpoint,

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<v Speaker 1>they need to be more balanced going forward next year

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<v Speaker 1>when they get healthy. I'm going with options to see

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<v Speaker 1>with a conversation. Okay, right, run it back, but Kellen

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<v Speaker 1>Moore needs to sit down. Mike McCarthy needs to called

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<v Speaker 1>Keller more into the office and sit him down in

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<v Speaker 1>a little man's chair. So Mike mccarthney needs to have

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<v Speaker 1>a big chair and Keller Mortys have a little chair.

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<v Speaker 1>He needs to say, Hey, we have this dude back

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<v Speaker 1>here who's a dog on goon and we need to

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<v Speaker 1>find a way to get him the ball. I know

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<v Speaker 1>that you'd like to throw the rock, right, I know

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<v Speaker 1>that's your thing. However, if you can't find a way

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<v Speaker 1>to get him his touches twenty times a game, then

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<v Speaker 1>guess what I'm going to take? Go? Rest offers a coordinator.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that conversation happens well before the off season?

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<v Speaker 1>Though I would. I would have liked to have seen

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<v Speaker 1>it already, but obviously we haven't. I think I think

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<v Speaker 1>it may have happened the week before last, and then

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<v Speaker 1>he was like, all right, I appease, coach. Now I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going back to what I know, back to so I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there has to be some form of consistency there. You

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<v Speaker 1>have to be able to break your you know, break

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<v Speaker 1>your your habits, and right now obviously he hasn't. So

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<v Speaker 1>if we're a cuss, well, no, that's that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. The last three games before this Thanksgiving one,

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<v Speaker 1>they were balanced. It was good, it was good. You

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<v Speaker 1>saw kind of what you're you're looking for. I just

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<v Speaker 1>wonder for you guys, like, do you think do you

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<v Speaker 1>think can run it these last five games with with

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<v Speaker 1>consistency without Zach? I mean, that's that's the question I

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<v Speaker 1>have because because I just wonder if part of Kellen's

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<v Speaker 1>thinking in the game was we just maybe against that

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<v Speaker 1>particular front, we're just we're running our head into a

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<v Speaker 1>brick wall trying to do it. Yeah, yeah, that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>You answered that. I mean the football team we just

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<v Speaker 1>can't run against the period because of their front. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we'll have more, maybe we'll have more luck versus the

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<v Speaker 1>Cincinnatis of the league. Maybe that would be it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>even when you look at Baltimore and their front, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean they're pretty stout as well, and so that's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be another challenge for us. I know we're gonna wait

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about those guys, but that defense is hilacious also,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, it doesn't get any easier, and especially

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<v Speaker 1>with the personnel that you have. You know, look, man,

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<v Speaker 1>there's not a lot of sunshine coming through those dark

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<v Speaker 1>clouds for Zeke. So he's just kinda keep his head

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<v Speaker 1>down and hope for the best through these next five games. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>all four of us and I'll throw se as my

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<v Speaker 1>answer to to run it back. But with all four

0:22:43.800 --> 0:22:45.840
<v Speaker 1>of us saying run it back, I think that applies

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<v Speaker 1>to not only Zeke, but I think it talks about

0:22:47.920 --> 0:22:50.880
<v Speaker 1>really the entire offense. I mean, you're coming back, You're

0:22:50.920 --> 0:22:54.280
<v Speaker 1>hoping your offensive line's healthy, You're hoping those weapons are

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<v Speaker 1>still there and playing well and things like that going

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<v Speaker 1>into twenty twenty one. But my question, kind of based

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<v Speaker 1>off A Gary's question, is what should the expectations be

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<v Speaker 1>like with what has happened and what has conspired this year,

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<v Speaker 1>Because seemingly your defense has seen vast improvements, even with

0:23:10.960 --> 0:23:14.120
<v Speaker 1>it being a little banged up as well. Your offense

0:23:14.480 --> 0:23:19.320
<v Speaker 1>has battled through adversity, has battled through these obstacles all

0:23:20.000 --> 0:23:23.960
<v Speaker 1>year long. Once everybody's back and healthy, shouldn't there be

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<v Speaker 1>higher expectations or what is that getting ahead of ourselves

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<v Speaker 1>before it's like, okay, let's figure things out and win

0:23:29.920 --> 0:23:31.679
<v Speaker 1>a couple of games first. Yeah, they need to win

0:23:31.760 --> 0:23:33.679
<v Speaker 1>some games. Yeah, they need to win some games. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that there is an expectation right now.

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<v Speaker 1>The expectations to go out there and play a consistent

0:23:37.680 --> 0:23:40.280
<v Speaker 1>four quarter game. That's that right now as the standard.

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<v Speaker 1>Once they can do that on a consistent basis, we

0:23:42.359 --> 0:23:48.080
<v Speaker 1>can talk about expectations beyond it. Rob play consistent four

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<v Speaker 1>quarter game, Yeah, play consistent four quarter game and don't

0:23:51.520 --> 0:23:54.359
<v Speaker 1>turn it over. Because I don't know who's gonna win

0:23:54.440 --> 0:23:56.320
<v Speaker 1>this division. I think it's it's looking tough for the

0:23:56.400 --> 0:24:00.040
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys based off the tiebreakers and technically being last. But

0:24:00.119 --> 0:24:02.240
<v Speaker 1>what's interesting, I just I looked at the at the

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<v Speaker 1>turnover differential for all four teams, and it runs in

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<v Speaker 1>line with the standings right now. Like Washington, I think

0:24:10.359 --> 0:24:12.560
<v Speaker 1>or the Giants are the only team with a plus

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<v Speaker 1>turnover margin, and there I guess in front, maybe by

0:24:16.280 --> 0:24:19.320
<v Speaker 1>the tiebreaker. If that's correct, Washington's right behind him. Cowboys

0:24:19.359 --> 0:24:21.399
<v Speaker 1>are last. Cowboys are last in the league, I think

0:24:21.440 --> 0:24:24.480
<v Speaker 1>in turnover differential, like no, none of these teams have

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<v Speaker 1>a margin for error. So if you dig yourself more

0:24:27.600 --> 0:24:30.440
<v Speaker 1>of a problem with turnovers, you're gonna you know, to me,

0:24:30.560 --> 0:24:35.200
<v Speaker 1>that's the team that's gonna wind wind up in last place. Yeah.

0:24:35.200 --> 0:24:38.080
<v Speaker 1>If we're talking, if we're talking expectations for this team,

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<v Speaker 1>well next year, what they're gonna do to get back

0:24:42.440 --> 0:24:45.080
<v Speaker 1>to or get half winning ways. I think it's gonna

0:24:45.280 --> 0:24:48.720
<v Speaker 1>obviously come down to coach Mike McCarthy. My opinion about

0:24:48.800 --> 0:24:51.760
<v Speaker 1>Mike McCarthy prior to him coming here was one that

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<v Speaker 1>he stern guy one that the offensive either the offensive guru,

0:24:59.080 --> 0:25:02.520
<v Speaker 1>just a no nonsense kind of a coach. And you've

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<v Speaker 1>seen him lay into Aaron Rodgers at times where he's

0:25:05.680 --> 0:25:08.600
<v Speaker 1>made he's made bad plays, and other guys as well

0:25:08.680 --> 0:25:12.280
<v Speaker 1>for just playing undisciplined football. This is a this is

0:25:12.320 --> 0:25:15.440
<v Speaker 1>a new look Mike McCarthy here in Dallas, and I'm

0:25:15.520 --> 0:25:18.800
<v Speaker 1>just wanting to see him go back to that. I

0:25:18.880 --> 0:25:21.080
<v Speaker 1>think Isaiah brought up something yesterday that I thought was

0:25:21.200 --> 0:25:23.880
<v Speaker 1>very interesting in saying that he can hear what's about

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<v Speaker 1>to be played, so what called what's being called? So

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<v Speaker 1>he has vieto power over that, and so just I

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<v Speaker 1>want to see him vieto some of these bad decisions

0:25:34.320 --> 0:25:37.040
<v Speaker 1>so that he could come out looking a lot better.

0:25:37.119 --> 0:25:38.879
<v Speaker 1>Because right now, I mean, if you just want to

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<v Speaker 1>give like a grade on the way that this season

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<v Speaker 1>has gone, COVID everything that you can load into that included,

0:25:46.880 --> 0:25:50.000
<v Speaker 1>I still think, man, that you're kind of grading on

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<v Speaker 1>the lower scale because of some of the indecisions or

0:25:53.440 --> 0:25:56.119
<v Speaker 1>lack of good decisions. So you said you want to

0:25:56.280 --> 0:26:00.320
<v Speaker 1>see McCarthy vito one of these bad decisions. How what's

0:26:00.359 --> 0:26:03.280
<v Speaker 1>to say that he hasn't vetoed these bad decisions already.

0:26:03.400 --> 0:26:05.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know there's a couple of bad decisions

0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:08.080
<v Speaker 1>that make it into actual play calls, and I know

0:26:08.200 --> 0:26:10.640
<v Speaker 1>he didn't veto those, but there's a couple of them

0:26:10.680 --> 0:26:12.720
<v Speaker 1>that you could say, hey, maybe he did veto this

0:26:12.920 --> 0:26:15.040
<v Speaker 1>there and the other, because there's no way for us

0:26:15.119 --> 0:26:20.080
<v Speaker 1>to actually tell from the outside looking in, right, I'm

0:26:20.119 --> 0:26:23.840
<v Speaker 1>sure of that, right, And even I say even with players,

0:26:23.880 --> 0:26:27.560
<v Speaker 1>I talk about the disciplinary, disciplinarian part of Mike McCarthy

0:26:27.640 --> 0:26:29.719
<v Speaker 1>when he was in Green Bay. We haven't seen him

0:26:29.800 --> 0:26:31.879
<v Speaker 1>bench anyone yet. We got rid of some guys that

0:26:31.960 --> 0:26:34.920
<v Speaker 1>weren't producing, and then there were those murmurs earlier in

0:26:35.000 --> 0:26:38.720
<v Speaker 1>the season about some guy on the inside saying that,

0:26:39.000 --> 0:26:41.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, we don't trust the coaches or what have you.

0:26:41.400 --> 0:26:43.760
<v Speaker 1>I just think that that part of it, when your

0:26:43.840 --> 0:26:46.280
<v Speaker 1>team that there's decisions that's being made and you see

0:26:46.359 --> 0:26:48.399
<v Speaker 1>your team just I don't want to say quit, but

0:26:48.480 --> 0:26:51.960
<v Speaker 1>the bottom fallout on your team. I think that's I mean, look,

0:26:52.000 --> 0:26:53.920
<v Speaker 1>you gotta come back and you gotta recognize that, and

0:26:54.040 --> 0:26:55.840
<v Speaker 1>that's what he's gonna have to make up for with

0:26:55.960 --> 0:26:58.359
<v Speaker 1>this team next year. That's just my that's my opinion

0:26:58.440 --> 0:27:04.800
<v Speaker 1>on it. UM. Yeah, Mike McCarthy has. I am unimpressed

0:27:04.920 --> 0:27:08.160
<v Speaker 1>by him this year, unfortunately, and I was really high

0:27:08.200 --> 0:27:10.600
<v Speaker 1>on him coming in. UM. It's simply because of some

0:27:10.640 --> 0:27:12.520
<v Speaker 1>of those things that you mentioned, right, his his ability

0:27:12.640 --> 0:27:16.439
<v Speaker 1>to UH control a team, his ability to get across

0:27:16.520 --> 0:27:20.400
<v Speaker 1>his culture, his ability to get across his his philosophies.

0:27:20.640 --> 0:27:22.360
<v Speaker 1>And I don't think that we have We haven't seen

0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:24.160
<v Speaker 1>that come through, at least not the way in which

0:27:24.160 --> 0:27:26.280
<v Speaker 1>we intended it to UM. And I think, I know

0:27:26.359 --> 0:27:29.240
<v Speaker 1>we all have had high expectations, but UH three and

0:27:29.320 --> 0:27:33.000
<v Speaker 1>eight is definitely well below, well below any of our

0:27:33.080 --> 0:27:35.840
<v Speaker 1>expectations for him coming in UM. And obviously he's had

0:27:35.840 --> 0:27:38.320
<v Speaker 1>a lot of curveballs to overcome, I mean, this first year,

0:27:38.440 --> 0:27:42.159
<v Speaker 1>as has any other coach. Yeah, there's a knuckleball, definitely

0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:45.600
<v Speaker 1>a check no allbuck for sure, But but I mean

0:27:46.560 --> 0:27:48.480
<v Speaker 1>he has to find a way, you know, when you

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<v Speaker 1>when you're and I guess just just as players have

0:27:51.720 --> 0:27:54.520
<v Speaker 1>to separate themselves from the competition, coaches have to separate

0:27:54.560 --> 0:27:57.280
<v Speaker 1>themselves from the competition as well, and they get graded,

0:27:57.320 --> 0:28:00.240
<v Speaker 1>they get critiqued as well by management. And I don't

0:28:00.280 --> 0:28:02.280
<v Speaker 1>think that he has responded the way in which he

0:28:02.400 --> 0:28:04.280
<v Speaker 1>has needed to. I don't think that he's used his

0:28:04.359 --> 0:28:08.600
<v Speaker 1>authority UH to enforce certain measures to ensure that these

0:28:08.640 --> 0:28:10.680
<v Speaker 1>guys are on the right track. I don't think he's

0:28:10.720 --> 0:28:13.159
<v Speaker 1>reprimanded guys, at least from what we can tell. I

0:28:13.160 --> 0:28:15.359
<v Speaker 1>don't think he's reprimanded guys in a way that is

0:28:15.760 --> 0:28:21.159
<v Speaker 1>conducive to a change in behavior throughout throughout his his roster. Um.

0:28:21.200 --> 0:28:22.520
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of things that I think he could

0:28:22.560 --> 0:28:24.840
<v Speaker 1>have done. He's obviously Heckman is already touched based on

0:28:24.920 --> 0:28:27.720
<v Speaker 1>his play calling and his his his lack thereof canceling

0:28:27.760 --> 0:28:30.520
<v Speaker 1>out from what we can see canceling plays coming through

0:28:31.400 --> 0:28:33.200
<v Speaker 1>like I've seen in the past through other coaches. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's is a lot of things that I think that

0:28:34.760 --> 0:28:37.840
<v Speaker 1>he needs his self evaluate within himself, which I'm sure

0:28:37.920 --> 0:28:39.720
<v Speaker 1>he is because he seems like he's that type of guy.

0:28:39.840 --> 0:28:43.280
<v Speaker 1>But um, there needs to be changed, and he has

0:28:43.320 --> 0:28:47.440
<v Speaker 1>the power to control those things. Everything that he decides

0:28:47.520 --> 0:28:51.400
<v Speaker 1>not to not to change, he's deciding to allow. I

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<v Speaker 1>like this conversation, and I want to continue this when

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<v Speaker 1>we come back on the other side of the break.

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<v Speaker 1>conversation that we had that Isaiah kind of brought up

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<v Speaker 1>a minute ago. And I know Rob, you were asked

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<v Speaker 1>this on the fan this morning, but I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>a valid question, giving that Jerry Jones this morning when

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<v Speaker 1>asked if Mike McCarthy has had the most thrown at

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<v Speaker 1>him and his first year as a head coach for

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<v Speaker 1>the Dallas Cowboys, Jimmy said, no, he's not. They had

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<v Speaker 1>the worst first year. He said, Jimmy had the first

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<v Speaker 1>worst first year as a head coach of the Dallas Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you agree with that, Rob, or do you think

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<v Speaker 1>it is McCarthy because of the situation a hand with COVID,

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<v Speaker 1>the racial injustice, all sorts of things, and then everything

0:32:21.120 --> 0:32:25.640
<v Speaker 1>that's happened within the last couple weeks as well. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I wasn't here for the start of Jimmy.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I was like seven years old, but so

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<v Speaker 1>I would I would defer to Jerry on that, I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>but but I would say McCarthy just because what I

0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:39.479
<v Speaker 1>told the guys on the fan was, you know, when

0:32:39.560 --> 0:32:41.600
<v Speaker 1>Jimmy came in, it was just a talent issue. They

0:32:41.640 --> 0:32:45.120
<v Speaker 1>were completely devoid of talent for the most part and

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<v Speaker 1>had a rookie quarterback in Troy trying to figure it

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<v Speaker 1>out and getting beat up to Holy hell. And in

0:32:53.840 --> 0:32:57.840
<v Speaker 1>this situation, it's partly talent because of the injuries, but

0:32:58.040 --> 0:33:00.880
<v Speaker 1>it's all this unprecedented stuff that we've never seen before

0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:03.400
<v Speaker 1>that is throwing a wrench. And just try how he

0:33:03.520 --> 0:33:06.720
<v Speaker 1>tries to schedule his team day today. And I know

0:33:06.840 --> 0:33:09.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm sounding like I'm making excuses, but but this is

0:33:09.600 --> 0:33:11.800
<v Speaker 1>this week and next week is just another example. Like

0:33:11.960 --> 0:33:14.200
<v Speaker 1>I feel like he walks into his office every day

0:33:14.640 --> 0:33:16.600
<v Speaker 1>not knowing what he's going to get thrown at him

0:33:16.640 --> 0:33:18.400
<v Speaker 1>and how he's got to prepare his team for the

0:33:18.520 --> 0:33:21.880
<v Speaker 1>every week because of everything that's going on and mass

0:33:22.000 --> 0:33:26.320
<v Speaker 1>wearing and all those things social distancing that are probably

0:33:26.440 --> 0:33:29.440
<v Speaker 1>preventing him from from establishing kind of that close culture

0:33:29.480 --> 0:33:32.360
<v Speaker 1>that I'm sure he wants with his team just because

0:33:32.400 --> 0:33:35.280
<v Speaker 1>of the nature of our world right now. So I

0:33:35.360 --> 0:33:38.160
<v Speaker 1>would say, I would say, Mike, just because we've never

0:33:38.280 --> 0:33:45.760
<v Speaker 1>seen a season like this ever. Yeah, I'm gonna say

0:33:46.120 --> 0:33:49.440
<v Speaker 1>all you have to say to that is twenty twenty. Yeah,

0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:56.520
<v Speaker 1>it's it's tough. And I understand where Jerry is where

0:33:56.560 --> 0:33:59.240
<v Speaker 1>he's coming from on that because when Jimmy Johnson took over,

0:33:59.280 --> 0:34:02.200
<v Speaker 1>you gotta think and they had just fired Tom coach

0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:06.320
<v Speaker 1>Tom Landry and so that is an institution here in Dallas.

0:34:06.400 --> 0:34:09.560
<v Speaker 1>So it was tough for Jimmy to take over and

0:34:09.719 --> 0:34:13.440
<v Speaker 1>then coach uh in that climate here in Dallas and

0:34:13.560 --> 0:34:16.719
<v Speaker 1>then not, you know, win one game. So it was tough. Right.

0:34:16.840 --> 0:34:19.279
<v Speaker 1>There's just media all over and things like that, but

0:34:19.680 --> 0:34:21.680
<v Speaker 1>no one has had to deal with all of this

0:34:21.960 --> 0:34:24.759
<v Speaker 1>COVID stuff. I mean, for the first time we had

0:34:24.800 --> 0:34:28.880
<v Speaker 1>a scrimmage with no numbers on the jerseys, you guys

0:34:28.960 --> 0:34:32.200
<v Speaker 1>had to do a three hour broadcast where we didn't

0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:35.480
<v Speaker 1>see any plays. We just listen to you guys for

0:34:35.600 --> 0:34:40.360
<v Speaker 1>three hours. I mean, I forgot about that. Let's not

0:34:43.000 --> 0:34:46.520
<v Speaker 1>forget about that night, all right, And so I mean

0:34:46.719 --> 0:34:49.640
<v Speaker 1>it's been so it's been so much happening this year

0:34:49.960 --> 0:34:54.719
<v Speaker 1>that has been unprecedented, and with the injuries and everything else. Yes,

0:34:54.800 --> 0:34:56.680
<v Speaker 1>if you can look back to that time, it is

0:34:56.719 --> 0:34:59.560
<v Speaker 1>comparable as far as what Jimmy had to go through

0:34:59.680 --> 0:35:02.200
<v Speaker 1>as a coach. But if Jimmy had to deal with

0:35:02.440 --> 0:35:05.600
<v Speaker 1>COVID and that at the same time, Man, we probably

0:35:05.680 --> 0:35:07.879
<v Speaker 1>would have lost double the games that we're not even

0:35:07.960 --> 0:35:14.160
<v Speaker 1>on the schedule, double double. Yeah, it had been hard.

0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:19.360
<v Speaker 1>We lost fifteen. We lost fifteen games there. Anyway, just

0:35:19.560 --> 0:35:22.560
<v Speaker 1>let it happen. That's that's the part. That's the part

0:35:22.680 --> 0:35:25.520
<v Speaker 1>where you just let it happen and move on. Okay,

0:35:26.440 --> 0:35:32.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna let you totally redeem yourself, totally redeem yourself. Um.

0:35:32.920 --> 0:35:35.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah again, I'm like Rob, I wasn't. I wasn't really

0:35:35.480 --> 0:35:38.799
<v Speaker 1>um running around here when when Jimmy was here. Um.

0:35:38.920 --> 0:35:41.400
<v Speaker 1>But McCarthy has had it rough man. But you know,

0:35:41.960 --> 0:35:45.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm team no excuse, I'm team find a way. So

0:35:45.719 --> 0:35:48.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm probably one of the least empathetic people that you

0:35:48.120 --> 0:35:50.560
<v Speaker 1>probably run into, maybe because some of the stuff I've

0:35:50.600 --> 0:35:53.040
<v Speaker 1>went through in my life. But you know, he has

0:35:53.080 --> 0:35:56.520
<v Speaker 1>a ton of resources. Man. He probably has the most

0:35:56.560 --> 0:36:00.120
<v Speaker 1>amount of resources at his at his disposal in the

0:36:00.320 --> 0:36:03.040
<v Speaker 1>entire NFL. And trust me, I've been around um So

0:36:03.200 --> 0:36:05.719
<v Speaker 1>he has the great the greatest support system, he has

0:36:05.800 --> 0:36:09.800
<v Speaker 1>the greatest resources. He has a great coach and staff.

0:36:10.080 --> 0:36:13.680
<v Speaker 1>He has one of the most talented rosters. We gotta

0:36:13.719 --> 0:36:15.600
<v Speaker 1>figure it out, man, I mean I can't. I can't.

0:36:15.760 --> 0:36:19.400
<v Speaker 1>I can't hit you. What's up? I gotta do this, man,

0:36:19.440 --> 0:36:21.000
<v Speaker 1>I gotta hit you. I gotta hit you with a

0:36:21.120 --> 0:36:25.279
<v Speaker 1>standback is m Listen here, Isaiah? You know there are

0:36:25.560 --> 0:36:28.040
<v Speaker 1>there are there are rookies that we had that we

0:36:28.160 --> 0:36:30.680
<v Speaker 1>didn't even get a look at these guys until August.

0:36:31.239 --> 0:36:33.719
<v Speaker 1>You know, so you gotta you gotta give him some

0:36:33.840 --> 0:36:37.000
<v Speaker 1>slack there. I know, team no excuse, that's that's real, right.

0:36:37.120 --> 0:36:39.640
<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, what we're what the Cowboys

0:36:39.680 --> 0:36:42.080
<v Speaker 1>they've had to go through, and all of the teams

0:36:42.120 --> 0:36:43.840
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL have had to go through. Man, this

0:36:44.000 --> 0:36:48.919
<v Speaker 1>is for a first year coach, that's a pretty impossible task. See,

0:36:49.320 --> 0:36:52.719
<v Speaker 1>And normally I would agree with you, and I did

0:36:52.800 --> 0:36:54.719
<v Speaker 1>at the beginning of the season. I was on the

0:36:54.800 --> 0:36:56.960
<v Speaker 1>train of saying, this is a first year head coach.

0:36:57.480 --> 0:36:59.359
<v Speaker 1>But there's other first year head coaches that are seeing

0:36:59.440 --> 0:37:02.120
<v Speaker 1>some success. One of them, Mike Stefanski up in Cleveland,

0:37:02.239 --> 0:37:05.120
<v Speaker 1>is doing plenty well with a first year job in

0:37:05.200 --> 0:37:07.880
<v Speaker 1>Cleveland after turning around the team that was detrimental a

0:37:08.000 --> 0:37:10.920
<v Speaker 1>year ago. And Mike McCarthy has want to suit and

0:37:10.960 --> 0:37:14.120
<v Speaker 1>I know they've had injuries too much like the Cowboys,

0:37:14.160 --> 0:37:18.000
<v Speaker 1>but I'm just saying this here. You have a defensive

0:37:18.040 --> 0:37:20.320
<v Speaker 1>coordinator that's trying to play a three four a scheme

0:37:20.640 --> 0:37:22.719
<v Speaker 1>that he doesn't have the personnel to play it with.

0:37:22.960 --> 0:37:25.800
<v Speaker 1>Doesn't So if you want to talk about Stefanski and

0:37:25.880 --> 0:37:28.319
<v Speaker 1>what he's doing, he's already had a power running team

0:37:28.440 --> 0:37:31.440
<v Speaker 1>and okay Chubb as a running back to run behind

0:37:31.520 --> 0:37:35.680
<v Speaker 1>that you come in and implement Hollo time out, time out.

0:37:35.880 --> 0:37:38.439
<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about let's talk about you haven't you didn't

0:37:38.520 --> 0:37:44.799
<v Speaker 1>lose one, two, three four offensive linemen? Yeah, come on. Now,

0:37:44.880 --> 0:37:48.160
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot to unpack and dak So, I mean,

0:37:48.239 --> 0:37:50.080
<v Speaker 1>I get a team no excuse and we want to,

0:37:50.239 --> 0:37:52.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, roll them up, but we can. You gotta

0:37:52.400 --> 0:37:55.279
<v Speaker 1>just state the facts on what's there. So if you

0:37:55.320 --> 0:37:58.360
<v Speaker 1>want to pull out Stefanski, please see the fact that

0:37:58.920 --> 0:38:02.719
<v Speaker 1>Stefanski asked the personnel to play the scheme that he

0:38:02.840 --> 0:38:05.040
<v Speaker 1>wants to. In the same on defense, look at what

0:38:05.160 --> 0:38:08.320
<v Speaker 1>he inherited with those first rounders. On his defense, I

0:38:08.520 --> 0:38:12.520
<v Speaker 1>leaned towards what heck said, Isaiah, just because I think

0:38:12.640 --> 0:38:14.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the top guys that you need to

0:38:14.560 --> 0:38:16.360
<v Speaker 1>win games are in the training room this year. But no,

0:38:17.000 --> 0:38:20.040
<v Speaker 1>but you got to you guys point. You know, there's

0:38:20.080 --> 0:38:22.919
<v Speaker 1>coaches like like Joe Judge in New York. He's getting

0:38:22.960 --> 0:38:26.240
<v Speaker 1>praised for kind of putting his print on the program,

0:38:26.360 --> 0:38:29.040
<v Speaker 1>his culture on the program, and so he's been able

0:38:29.080 --> 0:38:32.440
<v Speaker 1>to do that. I think Mike's culture, Isaiah is like,

0:38:32.760 --> 0:38:34.600
<v Speaker 1>I go back to the turnovers, like that was his

0:38:34.680 --> 0:38:36.680
<v Speaker 1>biggest thing in Green Bay. They took care of the ball,

0:38:36.719 --> 0:38:38.840
<v Speaker 1>They were disciplined in that way, and a lot of

0:38:38.880 --> 0:38:41.160
<v Speaker 1>that's dude, Aaron Rodgers just being a Hall of Famer.

0:38:41.239 --> 0:38:44.279
<v Speaker 1>But they haven't gotten that part of it down with

0:38:44.480 --> 0:38:47.839
<v Speaker 1>Mike here yet. I hear what you guys are saying,

0:38:48.239 --> 0:38:51.920
<v Speaker 1>and I respect what you guys are saying. However, however,

0:38:52.560 --> 0:38:54.480
<v Speaker 1>you look at a team like the forty nine ers,

0:38:54.800 --> 0:38:58.279
<v Speaker 1>have they not had a ton of injuries? Yeay, have

0:38:58.560 --> 0:39:00.840
<v Speaker 1>have they not lost. Yeah, have they not lost the

0:39:00.880 --> 0:39:02.520
<v Speaker 1>guys that they depend on to go out there and

0:39:02.520 --> 0:39:05.120
<v Speaker 1>help them win games? Ye like, But yet they have

0:39:05.239 --> 0:39:07.359
<v Speaker 1>two more wins than we have. You know, you look

0:39:07.400 --> 0:39:09.160
<v Speaker 1>at our you look at you talk about the defense

0:39:09.200 --> 0:39:12.880
<v Speaker 1>as scheme. Don't run that scheme. You don't have the players.

0:39:13.160 --> 0:39:15.520
<v Speaker 1>Don't run the scheme. Right, even though that might be

0:39:15.640 --> 0:39:18.520
<v Speaker 1>your guy, right that you brought in. You made a decision.

0:39:18.560 --> 0:39:21.520
<v Speaker 1>That's a decision. You can't use that decision as an excuse. Right.

0:39:21.600 --> 0:39:23.440
<v Speaker 1>You tell me that he has the inability to run

0:39:23.480 --> 0:39:26.040
<v Speaker 1>a four three defense. No, he could run a four

0:39:26.120 --> 0:39:28.319
<v Speaker 1>three defense until he gets the personnel that he needs

0:39:28.400 --> 0:39:31.040
<v Speaker 1>to be efficient with a three four defense. We have

0:39:31.239 --> 0:39:33.960
<v Speaker 1>given up the most amount of points this year in

0:39:34.120 --> 0:39:38.200
<v Speaker 1>the league, in the league, and we have and we

0:39:38.280 --> 0:39:39.719
<v Speaker 1>haven't had a ton of injuries on that side of

0:39:39.760 --> 0:39:41.640
<v Speaker 1>the ball. So let's not make this we've lost the

0:39:41.680 --> 0:39:43.440
<v Speaker 1>offensive side of the ball. But what's the excuse for

0:39:43.560 --> 0:39:45.279
<v Speaker 1>what's the excuse forgetting up the most amount of points

0:39:45.280 --> 0:39:48.160
<v Speaker 1>in the league? Right, So do some things or decisions,

0:39:48.239 --> 0:39:49.759
<v Speaker 1>some things you're handed and you have to deal with.

0:39:49.880 --> 0:39:52.760
<v Speaker 1>And I'm all about overcoming adversity. Trust me, if anybody

0:39:52.840 --> 0:39:55.680
<v Speaker 1>understands that. I understand it. Right. You find a way, though,

0:39:55.760 --> 0:39:57.680
<v Speaker 1>but you find a way. You don't find an excuse,

0:39:57.760 --> 0:40:02.680
<v Speaker 1>you find a way. Now, you could definitely argue, you

0:40:02.760 --> 0:40:05.000
<v Speaker 1>could definitely argue that they tried to do too much

0:40:05.400 --> 0:40:08.520
<v Speaker 1>defensively right off the bat, you know, given the circumstances,

0:40:09.280 --> 0:40:10.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of put them in a hole too. With that,

0:40:11.040 --> 0:40:13.560
<v Speaker 1>And I want to go with this defensive question from

0:40:13.640 --> 0:40:16.160
<v Speaker 1>Johnny on Twitter. He said, why do you think the

0:40:16.239 --> 0:40:19.440
<v Speaker 1>defense can't hold up for four quarters? Is it fatigue?

0:40:19.640 --> 0:40:22.640
<v Speaker 1>Is it players? Is a scheme or a combination of

0:40:22.840 --> 0:40:24.480
<v Speaker 1>all three? And I think this kind of has to

0:40:24.560 --> 0:40:26.680
<v Speaker 1>do with the fact of what we were just talking about,

0:40:26.719 --> 0:40:29.879
<v Speaker 1>of maybe Mike Nolan getting a little a little out

0:40:29.920 --> 0:40:32.160
<v Speaker 1>in front of things, and because of that, and because

0:40:32.200 --> 0:40:34.040
<v Speaker 1>of the personnel that you had and the injuries that

0:40:34.080 --> 0:40:36.200
<v Speaker 1>you had earlier in the season, you weren't able to

0:40:36.239 --> 0:40:38.960
<v Speaker 1>compete the right way and weren't able to get everything

0:40:39.080 --> 0:40:41.400
<v Speaker 1>that you thought originally was going to work out for you.

0:40:41.520 --> 0:40:43.720
<v Speaker 1>But I'm interested to see what you guys think. Isaiah

0:40:43.719 --> 0:40:47.320
<v Speaker 1>will start here one more time. Yes, so is what

0:40:47.920 --> 0:40:50.440
<v Speaker 1>is holding the defense back and why they can't hold

0:40:50.560 --> 0:40:52.920
<v Speaker 1>up for four quarters. Is it fatigue, players, scheme or

0:40:53.200 --> 0:40:56.480
<v Speaker 1>all four? I think I don't think it's fatigue. I

0:40:56.560 --> 0:40:58.360
<v Speaker 1>mean I think these guys had you know, obviously with

0:40:58.480 --> 0:41:00.920
<v Speaker 1>coach Paul just just passing these guys, I've had both

0:41:00.920 --> 0:41:03.839
<v Speaker 1>of those strength coaches, him and coaching Nash. Those guys

0:41:03.880 --> 0:41:06.560
<v Speaker 1>are amazing, So I not know they're in condition regardless

0:41:06.600 --> 0:41:08.279
<v Speaker 1>if they had to do it virtually or not. So

0:41:08.400 --> 0:41:10.600
<v Speaker 1>that's not an excuse because everybody had their partner in that.

0:41:11.440 --> 0:41:14.000
<v Speaker 1>I think it's scheme. I think it was. I think

0:41:14.200 --> 0:41:16.440
<v Speaker 1>some of it was personnel early on. I mean I

0:41:16.520 --> 0:41:18.440
<v Speaker 1>think another portion of it it was just the guy's

0:41:18.480 --> 0:41:21.360
<v Speaker 1>not buying in. I don't think guys believe in the scheme.

0:41:21.880 --> 0:41:24.360
<v Speaker 1>So I think I think the se're talking about before

0:41:24.480 --> 0:41:27.440
<v Speaker 1>the release of Poe and Worly and maybe even Griffin

0:41:27.560 --> 0:41:29.960
<v Speaker 1>because of his I'm talking about it then, and I'm

0:41:30.000 --> 0:41:32.080
<v Speaker 1>even talking about now. I mean we're talking about now.

0:41:32.160 --> 0:41:33.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean I'm thinking I think I still think that

0:41:33.640 --> 0:41:36.399
<v Speaker 1>some of the decisions that they're making, I e. Playing

0:41:36.440 --> 0:41:37.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't have nothing against Jalen, but like

0:41:38.040 --> 0:41:40.359
<v Speaker 1>Jalen has not been effective for us, he just has

0:41:40.400 --> 0:41:42.359
<v Speaker 1>it right. Maybe he's having a bad year like Zeke.

0:41:42.400 --> 0:41:44.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, right, but I know that there was

0:41:44.200 --> 0:41:45.839
<v Speaker 1>a guy in there by the name of Joan Thomas

0:41:45.880 --> 0:41:48.239
<v Speaker 1>who who's doing a dog on good job. Prior to

0:41:48.320 --> 0:41:50.160
<v Speaker 1>having to get pulled out. He was one of our

0:41:50.200 --> 0:41:52.160
<v Speaker 1>most So you talk about somebody who's coming in, who

0:41:52.200 --> 0:41:54.040
<v Speaker 1>was making an impact, who was flying around and all

0:41:54.040 --> 0:41:56.280
<v Speaker 1>those kind of things, he just needed reps and continue developing.

0:41:56.440 --> 0:41:58.120
<v Speaker 1>All of a sudden these guys show up who get

0:41:58.120 --> 0:41:59.560
<v Speaker 1>a bigger paycheck to him, and all of a sudden

0:41:59.560 --> 0:42:01.600
<v Speaker 1>he has to take a seat, right, So you got

0:42:01.680 --> 0:42:03.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, So there's there's things like that that I

0:42:03.560 --> 0:42:05.759
<v Speaker 1>think guys overall on a defense side of the ball,

0:42:05.800 --> 0:42:08.680
<v Speaker 1>I just think they came down to lack of communication

0:42:08.960 --> 0:42:16.080
<v Speaker 1>and guys just totally just not buying in. Rob Yeah, no,

0:42:16.320 --> 0:42:19.560
<v Speaker 1>I think, yeah, it's been partially scheme and guys trying

0:42:19.600 --> 0:42:22.360
<v Speaker 1>to understand what they're supposed to do and buy in

0:42:22.840 --> 0:42:25.839
<v Speaker 1>and uh. And I think personnel wise too, I think

0:42:25.880 --> 0:42:28.600
<v Speaker 1>we're going to see changes on defense. They're definitely playing

0:42:28.680 --> 0:42:31.480
<v Speaker 1>better overall than they have the last few years, but

0:42:31.600 --> 0:42:34.560
<v Speaker 1>I think they've they need to add Like I think

0:42:34.640 --> 0:42:36.759
<v Speaker 1>what Heckma said, they need to add some more playmakers

0:42:37.120 --> 0:42:39.680
<v Speaker 1>that fit what they're trying to do schematically, and they've

0:42:39.719 --> 0:42:42.920
<v Speaker 1>got a few, but um, I just think they've from

0:42:42.960 --> 0:42:46.479
<v Speaker 1>a personnel standpoint, they've gotten beaten by just better, better

0:42:46.600 --> 0:42:48.959
<v Speaker 1>offenses this year, you know, by teams with more talent.

0:42:50.760 --> 0:42:53.600
<v Speaker 1>You know. My my take on this, guys, is the

0:42:53.719 --> 0:42:55.799
<v Speaker 1>fact that our defense don't know what the hell they're doing.

0:42:56.040 --> 0:42:59.200
<v Speaker 1>And you see that with some of the you know,

0:42:59.360 --> 0:43:01.840
<v Speaker 1>last minute of the alignments and Troy Egmans called them

0:43:01.920 --> 0:43:04.160
<v Speaker 1>keystone cops. I mean, that's the only way to kind

0:43:04.200 --> 0:43:06.200
<v Speaker 1>of put it together, the way that they're running around

0:43:06.239 --> 0:43:09.960
<v Speaker 1>pre snap. Even on the interception by Jalen, he was

0:43:10.040 --> 0:43:12.800
<v Speaker 1>out of position in the ball just seemingly fell in

0:43:12.840 --> 0:43:15.760
<v Speaker 1>his lap, you know. And we haven't talked about that interception.

0:43:16.040 --> 0:43:19.840
<v Speaker 1>Maybe stay away from it for Isaiah, but you know,

0:43:20.239 --> 0:43:23.040
<v Speaker 1>I just feel like this defense, the scheme that they're playing,

0:43:23.120 --> 0:43:25.880
<v Speaker 1>doesn't fit the personnel that they have. You're asking for

0:43:26.120 --> 0:43:28.360
<v Speaker 1>three guys and now be three four two gap of

0:43:28.440 --> 0:43:32.120
<v Speaker 1>signment alignment kind of guys and read there read the

0:43:32.200 --> 0:43:34.759
<v Speaker 1>offensive lineman that may not have been their skill set.

0:43:34.840 --> 0:43:38.239
<v Speaker 1>And again without OTAs and all of those things, it

0:43:38.520 --> 0:43:40.480
<v Speaker 1>increased that and if you think you can teach that

0:43:40.600 --> 0:43:42.920
<v Speaker 1>through the season for guys that have been playing a

0:43:43.000 --> 0:43:46.279
<v Speaker 1>certain scheme their entire career, you're wrong. And this is

0:43:46.320 --> 0:43:49.719
<v Speaker 1>the byproduct of it, right. And look, we're lighting the

0:43:49.800 --> 0:43:52.480
<v Speaker 1>loafers up front. You see guys that play the three four,

0:43:52.560 --> 0:43:55.240
<v Speaker 1>they're bigger guys. They are a bigger guys like Klaias

0:43:55.239 --> 0:43:57.880
<v Speaker 1>Campbell that can play that two gap of signment easier.

0:43:57.960 --> 0:44:01.279
<v Speaker 1>Their defensive ends are bigger because of the responsibilities of

0:44:01.360 --> 0:44:04.560
<v Speaker 1>holding up tackles and not getting pushed it inside. We

0:44:04.680 --> 0:44:07.799
<v Speaker 1>see Tank Lawrence's that's been that's been happening to him

0:44:07.920 --> 0:44:10.040
<v Speaker 1>a lot. I mean, he's been coming on strong with

0:44:10.120 --> 0:44:13.239
<v Speaker 1>the sacks and things like that. But we are susceptible

0:44:13.400 --> 0:44:16.520
<v Speaker 1>in the run and god man, let's tell our secondary

0:44:17.000 --> 0:44:21.720
<v Speaker 1>just our safeties. What do I have to say about

0:44:21.760 --> 0:44:24.319
<v Speaker 1>the performance of these guys. I mean, and even if

0:44:24.360 --> 0:44:28.120
<v Speaker 1>you're looking for some type of leadership, your play has

0:44:28.200 --> 0:44:30.319
<v Speaker 1>to make dictate that you're a leader. So who are

0:44:30.320 --> 0:44:33.400
<v Speaker 1>we going to look to? I like it. That's a

0:44:33.440 --> 0:44:35.440
<v Speaker 1>good way to end this show. Let's go drop the

0:44:35.520 --> 0:44:39.839
<v Speaker 1>mic e my heros face dropped it fantastic. Well, that's

0:44:39.840 --> 0:44:42.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna do it. Here for us, here on talking cowboys.

0:44:42.719 --> 0:44:45.400
<v Speaker 1>That's the way to end the show. I love it. Anyways.

0:44:45.719 --> 0:44:48.359
<v Speaker 1>With that being said, we will be back tomorrow nine

0:44:48.600 --> 0:44:50.600
<v Speaker 1>thirty right on the Dot. Will be ready to go.

0:44:51.280 --> 0:44:54.040
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know what we're gonna talk about tomorrow.

0:44:54.040 --> 0:44:56.000
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna have to figure something out and have some fun.

0:44:56.160 --> 0:44:59.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna try and if you are, if you want,

0:45:00.360 --> 0:45:03.439
<v Speaker 1>start sending all of your your your your baked goods

0:45:03.480 --> 0:45:05.360
<v Speaker 1>and your treats to Chris Beam in the back because

0:45:05.360 --> 0:45:07.640
<v Speaker 1>I think I'm gonna ask him about maybe doing fan

0:45:07.760 --> 0:45:09.759
<v Speaker 1>calls and maybe trying to get on the phone. I

0:45:09.800 --> 0:45:12.880
<v Speaker 1>don't know if that's gonna happen. Right start buttering them up.

0:45:12.920 --> 0:45:15.960
<v Speaker 1>We got we gotta start. Bring your bring your smoked

0:45:16.000 --> 0:45:19.120
<v Speaker 1>mac and cheese. HECMA, get Nikki to make some of

0:45:19.160 --> 0:45:21.440
<v Speaker 1>the stuff that she made for Thanksgiving and all of

0:45:21.560 --> 0:45:23.200
<v Speaker 1>that stuff. We'll just bring it all to Chris and

0:45:23.280 --> 0:45:25.160
<v Speaker 1>we'll bring it all in pans and hopefully we'll get

0:45:25.200 --> 0:45:27.680
<v Speaker 1>some fan calls tomorrow. But with that being said, we'll

0:45:27.719 --> 0:45:30.439
<v Speaker 1>be back tomorrow. Fan calls are not for Isaiah, stand

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<v Speaker 1>back for Heckma Harrison, Rob Phillips and the Great Chris

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<v Speaker 1>beam in the back, the best producer the world has

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<v Speaker 1>ever seen. I'm Kyle Yeoman, saying so long from the

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<v Speaker 1>star in Frisco, We'll see you tomorrow, and talking Cowboys.

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