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Speaker 2: still standing this morning. Combat It's back in your absolute

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Speaker 2: facehole Monday, March third, twenty twenty five. And what a

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Speaker 2: how's that Apathy, Let's go. Yeah. And that guy next

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Speaker 2: to me, Oh my god, he's the best damn combat

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Speaker 2: Well, okay, I'm just being a dick. Hey, it's Luke

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Speaker 2: Thomas from Washington, d C. There he is, guys, Yes.

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Speaker 1: Three cheers for BC on a big ass Saturday. Three

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Speaker 1: Celebrate after doing a Tank Davis pay per view in

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Did you get your toast spacers? What

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Speaker 1: You know? I couldn't believe the like the wreckage of

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Speaker 1: Guys? How are you good?

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Speaker 2: Did you enjoy that star studied apex event over the weekend?

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Speaker 2: out there in Hawaii, my man, mahalo to you, Broski,

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Speaker 2: Let's do it, all right, a reminder that today's episode

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Speaker 1: There's simply no question Lamont Roach was robbed. I have

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Speaker 1: I don't hate him, but it's like, every time I

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Speaker 2: Yes, if anyone didn't see it, very slow tactical fight

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Speaker 1: this is a normally functioning sport. This is a fucking

433
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:47,320
Speaker 1: disaster sport. This is a disaster sport. You are ruining

434
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,960
Speaker 1: and fucking up the lives of the people who are

435
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:55,920
Speaker 1: putting their lives on the line for entertainment. It's unethical,

436
00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,680
Speaker 1: it's unfucking believable, and yet it is the reality we

437
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 1: have of something. God damn, something needs to be done

438
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:08,119
Speaker 1: to protect people lackroach and more broadly, just consumer interest

439
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:09,640
Speaker 1: if they want to keep this thing afloat.

440
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 2: Now we're gonna get more into Jervonte's sort of shortcomings

441
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,560
Speaker 2: on this night in topic number two. But if you

442
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 2: hadn't heard his excuse when I asked him in the

443
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,800
Speaker 2: ring afterwards in terms of like what happened, why did

444
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 2: you take that knee, was that he had his braids

445
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 2: done a couple of days ago, and that there was

446
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,120
Speaker 2: grease put in there, and the grease was dripping down

447
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 2: and blinding him in the eye. Now, like we have

448
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 2: seen the famous Cassius Clay versus Sunny List in part

449
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,639
Speaker 2: one where Muhammad al lif you know, accused Clay of

450
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,680
Speaker 2: putting illegal substances on his gloves and he was blinded,

451
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 2: but he fought through it because there's no timeouts in boxing.

452
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 2: So it really is a rough situation that doesn't make

453
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:50,119
Speaker 2: Tank look good. And oh, by the way, Tank's proposed hairstylist,

454
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:51,880
Speaker 2: if this is the person who did it, came out

455
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 2: on social media and killed him and was like, I

456
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,919
Speaker 2: did his hair on Wednesday, there's no chance that that

457
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 2: could have still been an issue on Saturday. Although, Luke,

458
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 2: you may remember that Amanda Serrano did have a Puerto

459
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 2: Rico homecoming fight with Jake Paul's MVP Promotions. I think

460
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 2: it was last year, and unfortunately had to pull out

461
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 2: the day of of that fight because something similar happened

462
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 2: where she got her hair done and it messed with

463
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 2: her vision. So I guess it is possible that that

464
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 2: could be a thing. But the whole point, the whole

465
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 2: handling of it was an absolute debacle by the New

466
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 2: York State Athletic Commission. And you're right the fact that

467
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,119
Speaker 2: officials are not readily made available in most cases for

468
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 2: comment or interviewing does not help the situation. It also,

469
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 2: even though PBC's getting a lot of counterfire blame here,

470
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 2: it's not their fault, but it looks like it is

471
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 2: because Tank escapes a fight where he was, let's be honest,

472
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,640
Speaker 2: a little bit flat, not himself, largely uninterested. I said,

473
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 2: we'll get into more of the Tank side, So, Luke,

474
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:51,160
Speaker 2: let's close out the LaMotte road side. Everything he said

475
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 2: he did in this fight. Look, I got laughed at

476
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:58,400
Speaker 2: in the production meetings talking up the amateur experience between them,

477
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 2: the familiarity, the fact that Roach was not afraid of Tank.

478
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,640
Speaker 2: He showed that in just about every way. He survived

479
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,679
Speaker 2: those middle rounds where Tank was going hard to the

480
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 2: body and walking him down. So I got to ask you, Luke,

481
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 2: what do you think Roach ultimately accomplished against Tank that

482
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 2: pretty much every other opponent has been unable to to

483
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 2: make it this close. Obviously, the Barrios fight was close,

484
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 2: it was a size difference, but Tank overwhelmed him. The

485
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 2: uh Pitbull Cruise fight was close, but Tank hurt his

486
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 2: hand in here. I'm not seeing the same excuses here.

487
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 2: A guy who knew him well kind of outdid him here.

488
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 2: How did he do it in your eyes.

489
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 1: I don't think he kind of outed him, and I

490
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 1: think he did outdo him. I mean again, it's you know,

491
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,639
Speaker 1: some of the scoring can be close, but just watching

492
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 1: it again. I watched it two more times this morning,

493
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,399
Speaker 1: from front to back, and I couldn't believe what I

494
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 1: was looking at. I mean, dude, to understand what the

495
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:58,879
Speaker 1: fucking media slander was about Lamont Roach coming into this

496
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 1: fight number one that he cherry picked, which I don't

497
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 1: think is necessarily unfair. I think that I think that

498
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 1: Davis was probably looking for a tough but manageable fight

499
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 1: and thought he could get that in Roach, and he

500
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 1: got much more than he bargained for. But aside from that,

501
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 1: the point that they made was not an unfair point.

502
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,640
Speaker 1: Beyond that, namely, well, Roach is a one thirty guy

503
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 1: coming up to one thirty five. He lost to Jamel Herring.

504
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 1: Yeah he's got a win over Hector Garcia. That's nice,

505
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 1: but you know this is this is somebody that Tank

506
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 1: should just blow away. And then you talk to lam

507
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 1: Al Roach. You talked to him. I talked to him

508
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 1: ahead of this fight, and he said all the right things,

509
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 1: which was I know this guy. I know myself. I

510
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 1: grew up from those bad experiences with Jamel Herring. I've

511
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: rounded the corner. This is totally different. We know who

512
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 1: he is, we know how to fight him. Dude. He

513
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 1: stood in the He stood in front of Tank Davis,

514
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 1: took the best punches that Tank could give him for

515
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 1: thirty second seven minutes, thirty six minutes and fired back

516
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 1: almost the entire time. First six rounds a little slow,

517
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 1: but from round seven on BC he was in there

518
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 1: trading with the guy. Never got dropped.

519
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:03,360
Speaker 2: Wobble.

520
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: Tank Davis as the guy coming up in wait, catch

521
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,919
Speaker 1: and shoot was so crafty, slipped on the two and

522
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 1: landed his own. That lead left hook of his is

523
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,439
Speaker 1: a dynamic weapon. You saw him chopping to the body,

524
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 1: chopping upstairs with that. Dude. He stood in there and

525
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 1: gave Jervonte Davis basically in that space, not in terms

526
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 1: of like an overwhelming show of force, but in terms

527
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 1: of what he said he was going to do BC

528
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 1: overall boxing skill and an overall boxing skill. He stood

529
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:38,199
Speaker 1: in there under that consideration and gave Tank everything he

530
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:42,120
Speaker 1: could handle. And then some how many people have numerically

531
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 1: outscored Tank Davis in that way, not for power shots,

532
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 1: but overall volume in the way that Lamon has nobody

533
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,439
Speaker 1: and then to go in there and stand right in

534
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 1: the line of fire. And BCI even tweeted it before

535
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 1: the show. There's several of those punches where he's kind

536
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: of catching and rolling with but they're landing at the

537
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: same time. This is fucking tank Davis, man, this guy,

538
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 1: it just stretches people when he lands. And remember, I'm

539
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 1: gonna say it again, coming up from a lower weight class,

540
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 1: just taking catching and shooting the whole time. Dude, I understand,

541
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: and a lot of people didn't know who Lamont was. BCE,

542
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 1: I'm not even I told you, did I not text

543
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: you this? Tell the audience the truth. After I got

544
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: my stupid aspectic here, I'm sitting there waiting for my

545
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 1: daughter to get finished up and the guy next to

546
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 1: me who's sitting there is playing your post fight interview

547
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 1: on the phone. Then I didn't tell you this part.

548
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 1: I go across the street to where it was like

549
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: this food hall and the guys behind the grill are

550
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 1: talking about Lamont roach. Dude, nobody knew who he was,

551
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: and now they do. And that's a great thing. But

552
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: you asked what he did, dude, he arrived, That's what

553
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: he did. He arrived, he said he was going to do,

554
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 1: and he did everything that he promised. He can't control

555
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 1: the judging, so that parts out of his hands, but

556
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: he proved he is a craftsman, he is a veteran,

557
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 1: and he deserves to be taken as seriously as anybody

558
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 1: else in that division.

559
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, a huge coming out party and a reminder that

560
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 2: they were the last time they fought as amateurs when

561
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 2: they were aged fifteen and sixteen to twenty eleven, they

562
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 2: were number one and two in the nation in their

563
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 2: weight class. So Roach turned pro with a legitimate reputation.

564
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 2: But to be fair, it took him time. It wasn't

565
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 2: just the loss to Jamel Herring in twenty nineteen where

566
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 2: he just wasn't quite ready for prime time. He bounced

567
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 2: from promoters from Golden Boy eventually to PBC and then look,

568
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 2: he had a weight out, his title shot against Hector

569
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 2: Garcia for Hector to fight Tank, and Hector delayed it

570
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 2: and got injured. Like there was a long time for

571
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 2: him to get this opportunity to finally prove himself. And

572
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 2: I've got to say he was not even though we

573
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 2: knew he was slightly taller and slightly longer than Tank

574
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 2: coming in, he was not the smaller man despite moving

575
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 2: up and weight. I know it's one division five pounds.

576
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 2: He looked like a legit ass one hundred and thirty

577
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 2: five pounder, a tough one with a chin, with defense,

578
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 2: with counter shots. I know. It was largely a low

579
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 2: output fight save for those pockets of rounds where they

580
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 2: did trade. But he passed the test literally every way

581
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 2: he could. And there was a tweet out there that

582
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 2: I didn't love from Tank where he said they took

583
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 2: the fight from me and made it the draw because

584
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 2: I did that bullshit knee. But I landed the most

585
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 2: punches in the fight, which he didn't. And he didn't

586
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 2: even hit me with a punch when I took the knee.

587
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 2: Also not true. It did come after a couple of shots.

588
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, that tweet from Jamonte did

589
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 2: get community noted and they showed the comfy Box stats

590
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 2: on there. But let's play an interesting piece of sound

591
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 2: from the presser where Roach is talking about what Tank

592
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 2: said to him in round twelve.

593
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 5: Y'all know something funny when we was talking in like

594
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 5: the twelfth round.

595
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 6: I think the twelve for eleven. We was talking shit, right,

596
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 6: but he like, you ain't gonna win.

597
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 5: I said, shit, why not you're talking about? He like,

598
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 5: I ain't gonna give it to you. I said, oh,

599
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 5: is that right? So you know that's how boxing work.

600
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 5: It's sad to say you know that's how boxing work.

601
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 5: I'm not like totally upset. I figured with a superstar

602
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 5: you won't get too much on paper, but uh shit,

603
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 5: I damn sure. I damned Joe thought I had it.

604
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 5: Especially when they announced the score for him. I was like, oh,

605
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 5: they're gonna give me a split decision win. I was like, oh,

606
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 5: oh shit, there go. But as soon as I heard

607
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 5: that one fourteen, I was just like, damn, it is over.

608
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 2: We so looke Tank telling him they're gonna rob you.

609
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 2: They're not gonna give it to you. They're gonna give

610
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 2: me a what decision was interesting?

611
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,239
Speaker 1: Oh? I got an updated tweet twenty minutes ago from

612
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: Lamont roach twenty minutes ago. So Gervante tweets yes forty

613
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: two minutes ago, say no more, I'm pushing for the rematch.

614
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 1: Lamont just quote tweeted and goes, F you mean pushing

615
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: n word. My contract already signed and set for the

616
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: immediate rematch, because you put that in there just in

617
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: case you lost. Only reason we don't fight is because

618
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: you're scared.

619
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 2: Okay, so that is good because Keith Idek of Uncrowned

620
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 2: reported that thank did have a rematch clause. It is

621
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 2: contractually there. But there was this weird sound afterwards from

622
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 2: Tank that didn't make a lot of sense. Can we

623
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:08,479
Speaker 2: hear it quickly?

624
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: Here?

625
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 2: Long Olt beat them up.

626
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 6: A little bit? Then President issue, Okay, one more year

627
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 6: and I think we're good, Tank.

628
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: I just wanted to ask earlier you said, you know,

629
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: hopefully you can get the rematch with Lamart next, but

630
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: everybody looks at you as a face of boxing, and

631
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 1: there's somebody who calls the shots. Do you want that

632
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 1: rematch next? And if so, high likely.

633
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 2: It is that we're you know where to see that

634
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 2: fight happen again this year.

635
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 5: Ah.

636
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 6: I'm not sure, bro Uh, definitely not sure.

637
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 7: Hopefully we can get it before.

638
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 6: Nah, it probably won't be this year.

639
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 2: Is that the one you want next?

640
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 7: That's the Yeah, it's definitely the one I want next,

641
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 7: But it's not going to be next.

642
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 6: What I see? Yeah, I see it, all.

643
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 2: Right, ladies and gentlemen, giving up one more time for

644
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 2: the night. Now. Look. He would elaborate on that in

645
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 2: another interview where he claimed that there was an opponent

646
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 2: ready in the arena that came into his locker room

647
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 2: that he was going to announce had he won. The

648
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 2: only people I saw that fit that description, either ringside

649
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 2: or on social media that were there were Schakor, Stephenson, Esach, Pitbull, Cruise,

650
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 2: and Jake Paul. So it seems like it was probably

651
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 2: going to be one of those three, if you could

652
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 2: even sanction some kind of weird Gervonte, Jake Paul, Rema

653
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 2: you know match, I don't even know. But I'm happy

654
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 2: though that it does seem more angling toward a rematch

655
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 2: because Roach deserves that, and I did see. I think

656
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 2: it's is that the WBA came out and said they're

657
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 2: more than likely going to order a rematch. So would

658
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,479
Speaker 2: you agree with me that this has to be next?

659
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 2: And I want to know, do you think this is

660
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 2: because of the contra in the performance from Roach? You

661
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 2: think this will be a big deal this rematch.

662
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: I think the rematch will be bigger than the first one.

663
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: I do think that. I mean, there's simply no question

664
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: that people were caught a little dude. Even us, we

665
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: have a high opinion of Lamont Roachi and even us

666
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: were like, wow, he really he really? I thought for

667
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: sure if he was going to duel like that with Tank,

668
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: he was going to get some licks and give some

669
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: but that eventually he might get clipped at a bare minimum,

670
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: and even that didn't happen, Like crazy to think about.

671
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: So I think the rematch will be bigger, and for

672
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: that reason, there's a good chance of it being made.

673
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: But like you know, if Shakoor comes calling, I don't

674
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: know if that will take precedence or not. And as

675
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: you mentioned it, I mean I don't even know. I

676
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: don't even know what to say about like Jake Paul

677
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: being there, Is it even relevant? Is this the thing?

678
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: I mean, how do you you know? What I mean?

679
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: I don't even know what to say about that. But

680
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: the point I'm trying to make is there could be

681
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: any number of other fights that get made that are,

682
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: at least in theory, bigger, and for that reason, you

683
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: just always have to follow the money in boxing. But

684
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: I think what Lamont has on his side is him

685
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: and I sent a bunch of tweets in the in

686
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: the uh. In the chat he has read if you

687
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: want Yeah, he's going back and forth. He's going back

688
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: and forth with Tank. Show that here's the Dan Kenobia

689
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: one Santamarre I'm pushing for the rematch BC saying he

690
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: wants the rematch at the end of May. I'd be

691
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: okay with that if that's what they want to do,

692
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: like turn around on it real quickly. And then I

693
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 1: don't understand this one. If you've got it word around

694
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: the block, y'all favorite fighter he's talking about. Uh, Tank

695
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: here is fit to be thirty and one, not thirty

696
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: zero to one two times two division champ. Is he

697
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: suggesting he's got word from the commission that they might

698
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: change the result of that fight.

699
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,359
Speaker 2: It seems like that. It seems like that in the

700
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 2: history of people appealing and getting things changed in boxing

701
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 2: isn't great, But this is such an egregious situation. Again,

702
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 2: I mentioned what Dan Rayfield reported about the the dropping

703
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 2: of the ball in terms of the timing of the

704
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 2: of the window of when replay is accepted there, I

705
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,439
Speaker 2: feel like if they had seen it in real time, uh,

706
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 2: and I think it was referee Ricky Gonzalez, Dan said,

707
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 2: who was the replay official, Very respected guy. There's no

708
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 2: reason that they would not have changed that to a knockdown.

709
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 2: So I don't I mean, I don't know rules wise, Luke,

710
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 2: if they can retroactively do that. Either way, this man

711
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 2: deserves the rematch meeting Lamont Roach. He deserves the big

712
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 2: time money for this performance. And I'd almost tell him

713
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 2: leave that one hundred and thirty pound title you owned behind.

714
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 2: I love him here at lightweight, this physical size, this confidence.

715
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 2: You already had Shaker Stevenson saying he'd love to fight

716
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 2: him too. So interesting stuff, Luke, But let's transition to

717
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 2: topic number two. A lot of tank trepidation out there

718
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 2: about what was really going on in the build up

719
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,439
Speaker 2: to this fight, the performance of this fight, the aftermath.

720
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 2: So Luke, yes, the true story of this fight surrounds

721
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 2: two things, the controversy and the overachieving the coming out

722
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 2: party of Lamont Roach. But it is hard not to

723
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 2: overlook some of the bizarre behavior from Davis. Okay, him

724
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 2: talking about retirement like crazy in therapy, that's not bizarre,

725
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 2: but I think that played into this. Then you have

726
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 2: that sort of weird mock outrage that Tank had in

727
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 2: the ring after the decision was won. He had like

728
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 2: a smile on his face, but he kind of kneeled

729
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 2: in the corner and acted like he was really upset.

730
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 2: Then he gives me the very odd excuse about the

731
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,919
Speaker 2: grease in his hair that's already been auto tuned into

732
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 2: like a song by the way on the internet. He

733
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 2: had an overall lack of urgency. So when you consider

734
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 2: all this luke, including him arguing with his corner aggressively

735
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 2: and yelling at Calvin Ford, and who is a very

736
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 2: who took over as main trainer for this fight, here's

737
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 2: a very important question. Because boxing you only fight two

738
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 2: times a year in most cases, so you are only

739
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 2: as good as your last performance. Was this one off

740
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 2: night for Tank Davis or is this a sign that

741
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 2: the hunger is temporarily gone or that he might be

742
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,240
Speaker 2: spiraling here in terms of the direction of his career

743
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:57,720
Speaker 2: in the wrong direction.

744
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 1: After this performance, there is simply no question his competitive

745
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: fire has diminished. There's no question in my mind. I

746
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: don't know how you can't look at his attitude from

747
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 1: the beginning of this announcement for this fight, the press

748
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: tour all week everything. It just seemed to me he's

749
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: got his mind in other places. Now we have to

750
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: understand something. That doesn't mean he did not train hard,

751
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: and in fact, if you'll know, he did not have

752
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: a hard time going twelve rounds. And also I think

753
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: the way in which Lamont Roach fought him created, as

754
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: you unicated, BC, somebody like Tank wants to be the counterfighter,

755
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 1: and Lamont wasn't really obliging that very often, or at

756
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: least not certainly, not as much down the stretch and

757
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: was making him go and then was getting countered, and

758
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: you know, so it was a big problem. But I

759
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 1: just want to point out something here. We said from

760
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: the moment that this fight was announced and they did

761
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 1: that press event, BC, you and I watched it. We

762
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 1: were like, man, Tank just seems like he's in another world.

763
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: I cannot declare to you at the present moment that

764
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: he has done and anybody who can knows much more

765
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: than me, or simply as willing to just say things

766
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: that they just don't know to be true, it is

767
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: very possible BC that Another thing you have to consider

768
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: is he does have Tank Davis a chummy relationship with

769
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: a bunch of DC boxers again, the guy who was

770
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:26,399
Speaker 1: his fucking cornerman this time is perhaps the chief and

771
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 1: Barry Hunter the chief coach in this area for that

772
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: kind of thing, and so it wasn't a heated rival

773
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 1: like he had in Ryan Garcia. In fact, BC I

774
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: went back and I watched some of the press events

775
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: from the Ryan Garcia fight. I remember when Ryan was like,

776
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: you know, it's not about money, that's what you don't get,

777
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 1: and then Tank's pulling out money. He's like, yes, this

778
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 1: is all that it's about, idiot, and He's like chucking money.

779
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 1: I don't remember, like there was a certain kind of

780
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: competitive fire that was pulled out of him, and I

781
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: do think that that ultimately elevated his performance on that night.

782
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: I know there's weight stuff and everything else, but I'm

783
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: saying I do think that played a role. But Lamont

784
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,760
Speaker 1: never gave him any of that, and Tank never tried

785
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: to get any of that out of him. And there's

786
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 1: a little bit of this and that, but there was

787
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: none of it. But just between that, the way in

788
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: which Roach fought and then the bigger issues that a

789
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 1: guy like Tank has identified remember prior to this fight,

790
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: and THENT some other ones too. But you know more recently,

791
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: I should say, in Tank's life, the guy went to jail,

792
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: and he went to jail for like a big thing

793
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: that he fucked up on really bad. It was a

794
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 1: hit and run and left people there at the scene

795
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 1: of an accident like this is pretty bad shit, and

796
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: he went to jail for it, and he came out.

797
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: It seems to me something of a different person, and

798
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: it seems bc maybe even a better overall person. But

799
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 1: I've seen better overall people become worse boxers because they're

800
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 1: healing things that had tripped them up and angered them

801
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 1: and frustrated them earlier in life. Simply no longer does.

802
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: By the way, he also has more money than he

803
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: could probably ever need if he, you know, spends his

804
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 1: money wisely. So we see. All of this is to

805
00:39:55,920 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: say there's simply no doubt this is not Heke Tank

806
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: in terms of his competitive fire, ambition and focus. That

807
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: isn't to say he couldn't pull it out of him

808
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 1: in a rematch. That isn't to say he couldn't win

809
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: a rematch. And it's not here to say that a

810
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: different person who would be squawking in his face couldn't

811
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: pull out the monster once more, but he wasn't there

812
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,399
Speaker 1: on Saturday at the Barclays, and he should have paid

813
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: for it with a loss.

814
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 2: I agree with you. I agree with you completely. And

815
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 2: it's not that this doesn't happen. Great fighters have had

816
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 2: off nights, bad camps, stretches in their life where they

817
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 2: weren't as focused, whether there's outside distractions or partying or whatever.

818
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 2: I don't know the case, right. We don't see a

819
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 2: lot of tank outside of his fights, you know what

820
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 2: I'm saying, So it's tough to say, but there were

821
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 2: some issues in there. It seemed beyond just roach. Knew

822
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 2: him well, applied the right element of pressure, showed a

823
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 2: great chin. I mean when he was giving me that answer,

824
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 2: it was like bizarro world. It's like even when he

825
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 2: was hearing the boost from the crowd and sort of

826
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 2: getting angry and challenging them and being like, why are

827
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 2: you guys booing? This is a legitimate thing. It's like,

828
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's not a legitimate thing. That hair

829
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 2: grease could have gotten too his eye, But he was

830
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 2: so nonchalant, almost laughing about it. There didn't seem a

831
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 2: legit amount of a urgency in the fight, and be

832
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 2: lament that this even happened, right like lament that there

833
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 2: was a draw on his record. Now it could just

834
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 2: be he was kind of half embarrassed in the moment.

835
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 2: Who knows it was interesting. Let's let's play sound from

836
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 2: Tank at the postfight pressure where he does show some

837
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 2: humility about why this result didn't go his way and

838
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 2: further talks about hairgate.

839
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: What's going through your mind when you when you heard

840
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: the decision?

841
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 6: Uh?

842
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 7: Nobody like a drawer, you know from a guy that

843
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 7: get knockouts and things like that.

844
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 6: But it's cool.

845
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 7: I feel like if we fight again, I could do

846
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 7: more and I should have did more. I was lost

847
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 7: in a h I lost track in the.

848
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 6: Rounds. That's why we need what is it called?

849
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, man, I didn't know what brown it was facts?

850
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:15,760
Speaker 5: Uh?

851
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: Tank? Eric Blum from Daily dot Com, First off, your

852
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: coach is second confirmed.

853
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 6: Did you get your hair done two days before the fight? Yeah?

854
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 6: I ran water over it today, but I mustn't do

855
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 6: it enough.

856
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: Can you describe what the feeling was like in the ring?

857
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 5: And it was it was it to get the towel out,

858
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 5: to get the burn out of your eyes or what

859
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 5: was going on?

860
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 6: And I didn't want to get caught.

861
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 7: I didn't want to get caught while my eyes was burning,

862
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 7: and you know, like you can't get knocked out like that,

863
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 7: So I'd rather take the knee than you know, but

864
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,800
Speaker 7: I already know that you can get the Spotify for

865
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 7: all that or like when you start counting, I'm like,

866
00:42:55,520 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 7: what the hell? But I don't know. It's cool?

867
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: Do you want that rematch next?

868
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 2: And if so, high likely it is that we're you

869
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 2: know where to see that fight happen again this year.

870
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 6: Uh, I'm not sure, bro.

871
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 7: Uh, I'm definitely not sure, but hopefully we could get

872
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 7: it before.

873
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 6: Nah, it probably won't be this year. Is that the

874
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 6: one you want next?

875
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 7: That's the Yeah, it's definitely the one I want next,

876
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 7: But it's not gonna be next.

877
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 6: What is you might see it in a minute. Definitely

878
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 6: might see it in a minute.

879
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 2: Okay. The ending of that was a repeat of what

880
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 2: we had heard earlier, but Tank would go on to

881
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 2: later say when asked if this changes his retirement plans,

882
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 2: he said it does. He now wants to fight four

883
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,439
Speaker 2: times this year, so who knows if that is Uh,

884
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 2: if he'll get there, if that's real, But Luke, you

885
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 2: did hear him say he lost track of the rounds

886
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 2: he didn't know the rules about the knee, which is

887
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 2: kind of weird and interesting. I guess what he didn't want.

888
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: MMA fighters and boxers appear to not know the rules

889
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: of their own sport. I'm not even doing a bit

890
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: like how many weeks do we go over this? And

891
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: they're like, no one seems to know the rules.

892
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 2: If you could try to get in the head of

893
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 2: referee Steve Willis, do you think this is tied into

894
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 2: some of the complaints we have in MMA refereing. Refereeing

895
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 2: where they don't want to be the story, so they

896
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 2: try so hard not to take away a point or

897
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 2: do something where they become where they have a hand

898
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 2: in the outcome. But in this case, by not taking

899
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 2: control and not having a hand in the outcome, you

900
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 2: alter the outcome. Is that how you sort of look

901
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 2: at what Steve Willis did.

902
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 1: I just think Steve Willis is old, and I think

903
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: he got caught in a super unenviable situation, a weird one,

904
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: and just refuse to take control, just refuse to take

905
00:44:56,000 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: control and let the other guys take control. And and

906
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: I think as a consequence this is where we are like,

907
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 1: these guys don't to your point, they simply don't want

908
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: to have any kind of fingerprint. And now it's gotten

909
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: to the point where we can't even tell if they're there, right,

910
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:17,399
Speaker 1: there's their borderline invisible at this point. And by the way,

911
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: obviously not calling the knock or the knee down or

912
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 1: you know, even warning about anything in any kind of

913
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: formal wag and the whole all of that in round

914
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: nine is bad. It wasn't like he had a good

915
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 1: refereeing performance outside of that. BC he was slow to

916
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: break up some clinches and had a hard time doing it.

917
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 1: And then there was other times BC he would like

918
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: pull them apart and then talk to one of them,

919
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 1: wouldn't stop the clock and they would talk. I counted

920
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 1: almost one of them went for fifteen seconds, so several

921
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: of them went for ten. And the time is just

922
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: ticking by, and I'm like, dude, dude, he sucked. He

923
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 1: was really really bad on Saturday night. It's hard for

924
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: me to believe there is nobody in their late twenties

925
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: early thirties in New York State who can do that

926
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: job effectively, because it seems to me like they are

927
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: in desperate need of some turnover.

928
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:07,720
Speaker 2: Well, if Roach would have won, would be a new champion.

929
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 2: You've already got star studed group at this division with

930
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 2: Tank with a belt, Lomachenko, Shakor, Stevenson, Keishawn Davis. Do

931
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 2: you reorder those at all? Luke? In terms like like,

932
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 2: does Tank deserve to drop out of the pound for

933
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 2: pound top ten for this? I mean it was a

934
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 2: draw in the end. Controversially enough, Does this change anything

935
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 2: when you look at the hierarchy at lightweight? And what

936
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 2: I mean by that is I was always of the

937
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 2: belief that if Shaquurr and Tank met, I would favor

938
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:39,240
Speaker 2: Shakor even with the power difference between them, and people

939
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 2: would always laugh at me when I say that. I

940
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 2: almost feel like we saw some limitations in Tank's adjustment

941
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 2: ability here that we just haven't seen before. This was

942
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 2: the first flat fight he'd had since the maymac Comane

943
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 2: event in twenty seventeen, when he missed weight against Francisco

944
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 2: Fonseka and kind of got booed the whole fight until

945
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 2: he finally knocked him out late. Does what has change

946
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 2: much in how you look at Tank Stock?

947
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 1: Yes, yes it does. I remember when Spence beat CSS up,

948
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: Crawford beat Spence and not I think the month after that, BC,

949
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:17,879
Speaker 1: I got the opportunity to call by the way, Gary

950
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: Antoine Russell. I got to call one of his fights

951
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: at the MGM here on in Oxen Hill, Maryland, just

952
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: outside the city and Breadman Breadman by the way, who

953
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 1: was also there cornering Julian Williams Jay Rock, and he

954
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: said to me something off air. We were talking about, like,

955
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 1: you know, what does this do to Spence's pound for

956
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: pound ranking? And his point was, dude, you can't get

957
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,240
Speaker 1: throttled like that and then claim to be a pound

958
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: for pound guy. Now, the argument, of course was that

959
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 1: but is also a pound for pound guy. So it

960
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: was like you were losing to a scrub. But he

961
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: was This point was you simply cannot get dominated like

962
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 1: that and then hold your pound for pound positioning. Now, BC,

963
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: that's not the situation here. It's not like Lamont dominated Tank,

964
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,240
Speaker 1: far from it. That's not my point. Nobody would suggest

965
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 1: something like that. However, like again I'm gonna say it,

966
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: Roach prior to Saturday not on anyone's pound for pound list.

967
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: And on top of that, a one thirty guy coming up.

968
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 1: If you're a pound for pound guy, should you be

969
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: going to draws against guys that you hand picked from

970
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 1: lower weight classes. There's a strong argument that that should.

971
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: There should be a very stiff penalty in the rankings

972
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 1: for a performance like that.

973
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 2: But if Tank comes out and knocks him out in

974
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 2: the rematch and does what the odds makers thought he would,

975
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 2: that could change that. You are I mean its fickle.

976
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean, I don't know if he likes I'm

977
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,479
Speaker 1: not saying he never belongs on it now or ever. Again,

978
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: you know, we're taking a snapshot in time. He goes

979
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: out there in the rematch in May, BC stretches him. Okay,

980
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: different conversation that we're having. But at the present moment

981
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: in time, he turned in a real dud, and he's

982
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 1: supposed to be a top pound for pound guy. There

983
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 1: should be a penalty for that.

984
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:55,839
Speaker 2: Yes, all right, Well, look that's a good time, good

985
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 2: time to look at the future of the sport. Also

986
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 2: a good time right now to remember one thing where

987
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 2: Tequila's story truly began. Yes, in seventeen ninety five, Quervo

988
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:10,400
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989
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 2: its roots, the same family, the same land, the same passion.

990
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,280
Speaker 2: Two hundred and thirty years later. Well, we are still

991
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 2: here in every pore, in every margarita, in every celebration.

992
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,760
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993
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:32,440
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994
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,399
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995
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 2: there at Quervo Luke. Let's quickly hit the big notes

996
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,399
Speaker 2: on the PBC on Prime Undercard, then we'll get into

997
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 2: the Ufcapex over the weekend. Gary Antoine Russell, who had

998
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:51,280
Speaker 2: knocked out all seventeen opponents heading into his title shot

999
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 2: last year for the inn REMBLD against Alberto Poyo. He

1000
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 2: would lose a split decision and say afterwards, I'm never

1001
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 2: gonna leave it. I'm never going to leave it in

1002
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 2: the ring again. He said he had a chip on

1003
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 2: his shoulder and he went in there against world title

1004
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 2: holder Jose Avellanzuela, who called him nothing special. This week,

1005
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,919
Speaker 2: Russell said, I took that shit personally. What did he do?

1006
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 2: He delivered a near shutout over twelve rounds to capture

1007
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 2: a world title at one hundred forty pounds honor his

1008
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 2: late father, Gary Russell Senior. Of course, he had his brother,

1009
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 2: Gary Russell Junior, former featherweight champion in his corner. So

1010
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 2: Luke Russell attempted to just shy of one thousand punches

1011
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 2: over twelve rounds. He kept up a brutal pace and

1012
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 2: he beat Valezuela, who is a very good fighter in

1013
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 2: just about every category. What did this performance say in

1014
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 2: your eyes about where Gary Antoine Russell belongs in the

1015
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 2: one hundred forty pound hierarchy.

1016
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,399
Speaker 1: Dude, this is the most impressive performance I've seen from him.

1017
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,320
Speaker 1: I mean, you can say the Victor post allified. You

1018
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 1: can even say the Kent Cruise fight, which is the

1019
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 1: one that went around. But like, I freaking love this

1020
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 1: performance from Russell. I couldn't believe how good it was.

1021
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:58,959
Speaker 1: I thought Ryo was going to give him a tough time.

1022
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: I mean understands something. Ryo was coming into this fight.

1023
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: Jose Vealezuela with the stoppage win in the what was

1024
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,439
Speaker 1: it round six over Chris Colbert, and then the Estock

1025
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 1: Cruz performance, and remember Esak Cruz was kind of bumping

1026
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: himself up in everyone's eyes in terms of what he

1027
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: was doing, and then Ryo out boxed him, and everyone's like,

1028
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: oh wow, I guess Ryo's simply a lot better than

1029
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: we ever realized. And then Antoine Russell, Gary Antwine Russell

1030
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 1: goes in there BC and kind of abused him, to

1031
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,320
Speaker 1: be perfectly honest, especially down the stretch that he was

1032
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 1: landing multi punch combinations, Ryo simply couldn't do anything to

1033
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: a get out of the way of the onslaught. He

1034
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 1: got pushed back into the ropes over and over again.

1035
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 1: He got drilled to the body combinations. Upstairs, he just

1036
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: really was struggling to find a place I'm not gonna

1037
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 1: say to hide, but to be comfortable in there. And

1038
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 1: then secondly, on top of it, BC, he he was

1039
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 1: just so he looked he was out of ideas. I

1040
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: think by round nine or ten, he just looked like

1041
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: I am just trying to get through this. That's what

1042
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 1: it looked like to me. Russell fought with verve, he

1043
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: fought with personality, He fought with a ton of offensive mindedness,

1044
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 1: like he had a good high work rate and everything else.

1045
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 1: And you guys talked about it on the broadcast that

1046
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: he fought with a bit of a chip on his

1047
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,919
Speaker 1: shoulder coming off that Cueos with decision loss BA se.

1048
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 1: It clearly lit a fire under him. And by the way,

1049
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,320
Speaker 1: also I should say something too. I don't want to

1050
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 1: keep going back to it, but I do think it

1051
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: is relevant. They lost their patriarch some years ago at

1052
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: this point, and Gary Russell Junior has kind of filled in,

1053
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 1: and I think he's done a marvelous job. Please don't

1054
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 1: mist understand me, but it looked like it might have

1055
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 1: taken some time for Gary Antoine Russell to kind of

1056
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: settle into all of the new power dynamics at the

1057
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 1: gym and what it means for his training, what it

1058
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: means for the fights, what it means for his development

1059
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: and everything else. Dude, he looked like if you just

1060
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 1: take away the Poeo fight and you pick up off

1061
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 1: the Camp Cruise fight, it looked to me like, you know,

1062
00:52:56,440 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: the the line growth is like this on the on

1063
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: the graph, you just I mean, it's just an unbelievable

1064
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 1: leveling up from him. This was Ryo at arguably BC

1065
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 1: his hottest. This was Valenzuelo at Valanzueta, excuse me, at

1066
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 1: arguably the best that he has been and Russell mowed

1067
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 1: him down. I was so impressed by him. I was

1068
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: not I was expecting. We talked about it a little

1069
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: bit on Friday. Hey, this is kind of one going

1070
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 1: on under the radar because I thought it was going

1071
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 1: to be back and.

1072
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 2: Forth on the cards. It was an actual pim.

1073
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 1: Sorry last thing on this PC. I apologize. You're right.

1074
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 1: It was a pickham. Ryo couldn't get Russell off of him.

1075
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: Russell was just constantly battering him, and you could see

1076
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 1: there were times Ryo would bite and then throw and

1077
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: then kind of like I'm gonna stand my ground, and

1078
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: then he would just get overwhelmed. Right afterwards. Man, this

1079
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 1: was the best performance I've seen from Russell, A deserving

1080
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: one for claiming a world title. I take my hat

1081
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 1: off to him. Fantastic by him.

1082
00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:59,720
Speaker 2: He told us in the fighter meanings I'm gonna destroy

1083
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 2: him in every possible way. And you hear that and

1084
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 2: you're like, okay, great, let's see what happens, dude. He

1085
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 2: even took Ryle's best shots and never sold them, just

1086
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 2: kept coming forward and pushing and pushing. It was almost

1087
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:14,240
Speaker 2: Virtuosa level, and I loved the coaching in the corner

1088
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:15,800
Speaker 2: from his older brother Gary and if you don't know

1089
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 2: their father, their lay father, Gary Russell Senior, named all

1090
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 2: six boys Kerry Russell with different middle names, sort of

1091
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,839
Speaker 2: a George Foreman thing, but breakout performance. No longer Gary

1092
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 2: Russell Junior's little brother in any way, And you consider

1093
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,280
Speaker 2: he's got that streak of seventeen consecutive knockouts against guys

1094
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:33,919
Speaker 2: he'd beat. Didn't get a knockout here, but dominated him.

1095
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 2: I think this was a good enough performance that he

1096
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,800
Speaker 2: now looks like the class of this division. Like literally

1097
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 2: looks like he could beat every other champion, including Tao Fimo.

1098
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 2: He looked that good as a south paw mixing the

1099
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:47,479
Speaker 2: boxing with the power. We also saw another title fight

1100
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 2: in this division on the undercard, also between south paus,

1101
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 2: when Alberto Poeo and Sandor Martin, who a lot of

1102
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 2: us kind of secretly thought could put out a stinker.

1103
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 2: They surprisingly had an aggressive, somewhat of an act a fight,

1104
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 2: but luc a split decision lost or Sandor Martin where

1105
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 2: I thought he had done enough, the same outcome he

1106
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 2: had against Tyo Femo in that close fight. I felt

1107
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 2: for him. Did you have were you leaning either way?

1108
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:15,399
Speaker 2: In this one after the fight, well, what.

1109
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 1: Umm, no, yes, yes, I mean it was close. It

1110
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 1: was close. I thought Martine one. I thought Martine one.

1111
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 1: But the fight was not great and it was close.

1112
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 1: And whenever it's close to you know the rule, whenever

1113
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 1: it's close in combat sports, who it's just a coin

1114
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 1: flip at that point. So yes, I did not again.

1115
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 1: Poyo got to split the split decision against uh Russell previously,

1116
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 1: and then you know he kind of edges one here too.

1117
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:46,360
Speaker 1: But I didn't think it was some kind of I

1118
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 1: saw some people being like, this is a travesty. I

1119
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 1: didn't think it was a travesty.

1120
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can have a unification fight rematch now

1121
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 2: with Russell and Poeo. Also unbeaten one hundred and fifty

1122
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 2: four pounder, the twenty four year old Johannis Taus of

1123
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 2: Cuba look great against Jay Rock. He's ten and oh luke,

1124
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 2: he would get the decision here. I feel like he's

1125
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 2: ready for a title shot, like right now, like this

1126
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 2: kid is legit looking to me? Are you gonna talk

1127
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 2: me off the legend? All? Or were you impressed?

1128
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:12,919
Speaker 1: What did you think of Jay Rock?

1129
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 2: Didn't throw enough punches, gave a veteran performance. Tried to

1130
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 2: expose the kid, couldn't. It's getting time. He's thirty four

1131
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 2: years old. You know, he sees a gatekeeper now. But

1132
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 2: but I love the guy. I love think.

1133
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 1: I thought Jay Rock boxed for like as a crafty veteran.

1134
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, he kept himself safe as possible,

1135
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 1: tried to go where he could, tried to find his

1136
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 1: spots where he could, and it just wasn't enough, and

1137
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: ultimately he succumbed. So it's a nice performance by theeas

1138
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 1: but at the same time, I need to see a

1139
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:48,359
Speaker 1: little bit more.

1140
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 2: All right, all right, a fun division there at one

1141
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 2: fifty four, and if you missed it in Puerto Rico

1142
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 2: over the weekend on his own symbrio, Matteas did get

1143
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:58,280
Speaker 2: his second consecutive victory after losing the title, stopping Gabriel

1144
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 2: Valenzuela the eighth round. But one thing I forgot about

1145
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 2: Luke Supral Mattias has knocked out every single opponent he's beaten.

1146
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 2: He's twenty two and two now overall, so he's still

1147
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 2: a name here at one forty. It should be some

1148
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 2: fun fights.

1149
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 1: Last thing on Gary Ansloine Russell twenty eight years old,

1150
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 1: like like La Nasardini MOVOVBC. He's in the prime. He's

1151
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: in the in all seriousness, he's twenty eight years old.

1152
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 1: Like man, he's hitting his prime and looking every part

1153
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 1: of it, really excited about his future.

1154
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 2: It was also that that robbery in England with that

1155
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 2: DQ with Patty Donovan that the internet was going crazy over.

1156
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 1: Did you watch that?

1157
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1158
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 1: I saw the highlights or whatever that was floating on socialdo.

1159
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Luke. Shots fired across the boxing landscape

1160
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 2: for sure. And speaking of shots fired, how about a

1161
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 2: new segment here on Morning Combat, brought to you by

1162
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 2: who by Quervo, and oh, by the way, right now

1163
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 2: is a good time to enjoy that tequila that invented

1164
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 2: tequila that we're talking about at Quervo. Our new segment,

1165
00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 2: we'll look at some of the more aggressive takes of

1166
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 2: the week or moments right here, and we have a

1167
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 2: tweet for this week's shots fired and it comes from

1168
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 2: Saudi Arabian boxing advisor Turkey Ali Sheik, who was in

1169
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 2: New York over the weekend. I didn't see him at

1170
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 2: the Barclay Center. I'm not sure he was there, but

1171
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 2: he was watching the broadcast. He did fire some shots.

1172
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 2: Here's the tweet from Turkey. If you charge people at

1173
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 2: eighty bucks for the pay per view, you must give

1174
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 2: them a good card with good production. I mean, I

1175
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 2: worked on that show. Look, I thought it was pretty

1176
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 2: damn good. But the expectations of your friend Turk one

1177
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 2: eighty two over.

1178
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 1: There, okay, shots, firetime. Listen. I appreciate what Turkey is saying,

1179
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying he has no point here. For example,

1180
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 1: just with a small bit when these guys walk out

1181
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 1: with the rappers who are just pantomiming, I realized that

1182
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 1: in the case of Davante, he had two thirds of

1183
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 1: Dipset there, he had Jim Jones, and he had a

1184
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 1: jewel Santana. But the point was it's just lame. It

1185
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 1: doesn't really work. There's a lot of things that could

1186
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: have been better on that broadcast in terms of the

1187
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 1: production elle. But I will say this, the crowd was real.

1188
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 1: They had did one of the highest gates ever at

1189
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 1: that facility's second highest of all time. There's a real

1190
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 1: market here, and in the case of Javonte and Lamont,

1191
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 1: you obviously have two Legiti fighters. Although in to Turkey's credit,

1192
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 1: he's putting real fighters on in his neck of the

1193
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 1: woods as well. It's listen, you've got two different models

1194
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 1: that are happening, that are colliding, and both have their benefits,

1195
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 1: both have their downsides. I understand what Turkey is saying,

1196
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 1: but also can we just say it real quickly, ABC,

1197
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:30,919
Speaker 1: you're charging twenty five bucks for pay per views because

1198
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 1: you're just willing to take an l other promoters simply

1199
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 1: cannot afford to do that. It's not realistic. Enjoy it

1200
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 1: while you can, but that ain't fair to to the

1201
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 1: state side who are putting on fights for an audience

1202
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 1: that has to show up.

1203
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 2: And that was a great crowd. Chuck Minnenhall was there

1204
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 2: with his son, more Ronalo's brother flew in for it

1205
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 2: to see Tank. It was kind of cool to see

1206
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 2: those guys there. But enjoyed that. Thank you over to Cuervo.

1207
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 2: Shots fired, baby, that's what we're talking about. Let's go

1208
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 2: on now the topic number four. What went down on

1209
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 2: UFC Fight Night in the Apex and a new flyweight

1210
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 2: main event after the injury to Brandon roy Val did

1211
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 2: not change the stakes for Manell cop who went in

1212
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 2: there against Red Hot Asu Almabayev and would finish him

1213
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 2: in within three rounds. So Luke Cop certainly moves closer,

1214
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 2: if not right, on the doorstep of a rematch with

1215
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 2: Alexandre Ponteljia and that long awaited flyweight title shot. So

1216
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 2: I want to know from you what did we ultimately

1217
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 2: learn about CoP's third round stoppage and is it possible

1218
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 2: to separate the performance from another week of gratuitous ipokes

1219
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 2: which led directly to cops finish of Alma Baiev, who

1220
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 2: was trying to call time out, trying to alert the referee,

1221
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 2: and ultimately Cop got away with it. I do have

1222
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 2: a quote I can read from Cop that Fighting dot

1223
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 2: Com transcribed where he said after the fight, that's not

1224
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 2: my job. I didn't see nothing. I think the referee

1225
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 2: should be more attentive. I've suffered so much stuff in

1226
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 2: the octagon, so I don't know it was clear. For

1227
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 2: what I've seen, it was good he could see me.

1228
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 2: Good if he was not able to fight, and if

1229
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 2: I think he was really stopping he was complaining about something,

1230
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 2: I give him three seconds and I run back. I

1231
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 2: just didn't do anything, so I fight. End quote a

1232
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 2: little bit confusing the grammar there, but is it possible

1233
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 2: to separate this performance and his climb up the ladder

1234
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 2: from ipokes that weren't even caught by referee Mike Beltran

1235
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 2: and seemed to clearly affect the finish.

1236
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 1: So I think two things in this particular case can

1237
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 1: be true. At once. You asked me if did we

1238
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 1: learn anything from Cop? Not necessarily in the newer sense

1239
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 1: for me, given what he's been up to more recently,

1240
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 1: but it was confirmation that, like, clearly this guy deserves

1241
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 1: to fight for a title. And in fact, in the

1242
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 1: post fight show they had Cop talking to a remoted

1243
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 1: in Pantojia, right, So they were kind of just going

1244
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 1: back and forth on that one. It seems like the

1245
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 1: UFC was setting that up. I mean, it looked to

1246
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 1: me he looked ready to be See he looks to

1247
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 1: me like he's really fully kind of put things together

1248
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 1: here a little bit. He has fast feet, good reaction

1249
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 1: time in great sprawl. You saw that a lot. Alma

1250
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 1: Baiah went oh for six on takedowns, right, had I

1251
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 1: think that I got thirty seconds of control time, which

1252
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 1: you know, hardly anything over the course of the time

1253
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 1: of that bout like this was a you know, and

1254
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 1: then obviously like the pinpoint accuracy on his striking, and

1255
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 1: you know he was hunting down a literally fleeing Alma

1256
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 1: Bai I have and I want to point out something

1257
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 1: like at least in the ipokes or the scrapes anyway

1258
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 1: that took place in the third round. A lot of

1259
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 1: this came from Almabia, who was fleeing contact. Now I

1260
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 1: don't know if that falls under the exact guidelines of

1261
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 1: a fighter, you know, avoiding the fight, but you're actually

1262
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 1: not allowed to do that. Of course, you can use defense,

1263
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:47,919
Speaker 1: of course you can evade, but if you're just straight

1264
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 1: up running half the time, they I do believe that

1265
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 1: certain jurisdictions and certain referees are allowed to at a

1266
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:56,440
Speaker 1: bare minimum warn you about it and potentially even take points.

1267
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 1: You're not allowed to simply flee a fight. You can avoid,

1268
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 1: you can adjust, you can around in certain ways, but

1269
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 1: fleeing is different. And a lot of this happened when

1270
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 1: he was reaching again in the third round, in particular,

1271
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 1: when he was reaching as he was fleeing. I think

1272
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 1: that goes to the story. But you know, listen, cop

1273
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:13,920
Speaker 1: looks ready. This guy looks like he's ready for a

1274
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 1: flyweight title shot. He absolutely looks at whether he'll win

1275
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 1: or not remains to be seen. Again, this will be

1276
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 1: the first fight. This will be a rematch of the

1277
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 1: first fight that he had when he came to the UFC.

1278
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 1: Pentoja already won that one. But you get what I'm

1279
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 1: trying to point out. He just looked like, Okay, we

1280
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 1: don't need to be wasting his time with anybody else.

1281
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 1: If it had been Reyval, it's a different consideration. But

1282
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 1: we are where we are at this point. Give the

1283
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 1: guy a title shot. He's ready at the same time, BC,

1284
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 1: even if I can look at how they matched up,

1285
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 1: and I can say, well, one guy definitely looks a

1286
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 1: lot better at this weight class than the other one,

1287
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 1: and I definitely can say that all my byev is

1288
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 1: a good grappler, not a great one, and he's not

1289
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 1: much of a striker at all, And that really kind

1290
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 1: of fell apart for him here. None of that has

1291
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 1: anything to do with the reality that this guy's eyes

1292
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 1: got raked like fucking leaves in the middle of October.

1293
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 1: I mean, there's really no way around it, dude. There's

1294
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 1: no fucking way, dude. There has to be rules, and

1295
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 1: those rules have to be accompanied by a process, and

1296
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 1: the process here completely broke down. And I'm gonna say

1297
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 1: it one more time. We went back to the old gloves.

1298
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 1: Two weekends in a fucking row. You have a main event.

1299
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:26,479
Speaker 1: Where is it true that ipokes played a meaningful role

1300
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 1: in the outcome or at least how the outcome in

1301
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 1: this particular case was decided matter of factly happened. And

1302
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it again, BC, I don't know if

1303
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 1: the new gloves would have meaningfully made a difference in

1304
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 1: terms of eye injury. I actually went back to their

1305
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 1: announcements in April. The UFC did make some claims that

1306
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 1: they would do that, but those weren't untested. I don't know.

1307
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 1: What I do know is they went back to the

1308
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:55,440
Speaker 1: old gloves, which we know verifiably do nothing to solve

1309
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:57,320
Speaker 1: this problem. And I'm gonna say it one more time.

1310
01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 1: Look at the fucking shambolic state of combat sports where

1311
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 1: in New York City you've got a fucking boxer in

1312
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 1: the middle of a round, taking a knee and then

1313
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 1: getting a space wiped off and nothing happens. Let's go

1314
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 1: to the other side of the country with their sister

1315
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 1: sport in MMA, and let's have a guy get raked

1316
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 1: in the fucking eyeballs, and nobody in the regulatory apparatus

1317
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 1: in either case appears ready to do anything the fighters.

1318
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I don't think that there is any legal

1319
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 1: standing for what I'm about to SABC, but there should be.

1320
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 1: There should be legal standing for the fighters to be

1321
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 1: able to sue these athletic commissions. And I mean that

1322
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 1: from every fucking fiber of my being, because they are

1323
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:48,479
Speaker 1: getting railroaded week after week, month after month, year after year,

1324
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 1: and may I say decade after decade. Buy these fucking

1325
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 1: incompetent do nothings who are simply unwilling to meet the

1326
01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:00,920
Speaker 1: urgency of the moment with what has to happen on

1327
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 1: the regulatory side.

1328
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 2: So there was an eye poking round two that Beltrand

1329
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 2: did see, at least the result of when Albalbayev was

1330
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 2: squinting and sort of covering up and they did stop

1331
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 2: the action. There wasn't really a harsh warning. He treated accidental,

1332
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 2: which it was. But our biggest point is that fighters

1333
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 2: are still allowed to fight with their fingers extended still,

1334
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 2: and I know that's part of the game. You're trying

1335
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 2: to catch kicks or what have you, But Luke, the

1336
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 2: sequence of three consecutive ipokes as Almabiev was, like you said,

1337
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 2: running away he was was so egregious. But I got

1338
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 2: to ask you this, These were flyways. It's a faster

1339
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 2: product cop was if I thought he was virtuoso against

1340
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 2: Bruno Silva last fight in his flowing state, ability to hit,

1341
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 2: not get hit, you know, not even wind up on shots,

1342
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 2: to stick his arm out there and nail you. Is

1343
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 2: there any chance that Beltrand we could say he had

1344
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 2: a bad angle that he couldn't see it because you

1345
01:06:57,720 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 2: kind of had to see the replay, and then when

1346
01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:02,440
Speaker 2: you did you can see the extended fingers and that

1347
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 2: cop is scratching and wiping the face of Almah Bay

1348
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 2: have like three consecutive times, which led to the sequence

1349
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:12,640
Speaker 2: where he tried to call time out and then eventually

1350
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 2: got stopped. Uh do we let Beltran off the hook

1351
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 2: for that? Or or like what do you do there? That? Is?

1352
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 5: That?

1353
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 2: Are really? Those are really fast punches? Was that a

1354
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 2: sequence where you felt like he should have seen it?

1355
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 1: Again? I don't think it's the biggest deal in the

1356
01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:32,920
Speaker 1: world that he didn't see it, but that afterwards there

1357
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 1: is no acknowledgment that the Again, sometimes you'll see in

1358
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 1: the NFL is and this they'll take some time to

1359
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:40,600
Speaker 1: look into it. Let's say that they missed some kind

1360
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:43,920
Speaker 1: of egregious call. Somebody was you know, neutral zone and

1361
01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 1: fraction that should have been called and it wasn't, and

1362
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:48,880
Speaker 1: there was still a consequential play that happened afterwards, we

1363
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 1: see you know this, they'll take a look at that,

1364
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 1: and then they'll issue a report and then give it

1365
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:54,440
Speaker 1: to the public to be like, hey, we fucked up

1366
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 1: on this. They won't change any of the results, like

1367
01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 1: whoever won the game wins the game, but they'll they'll

1368
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:01,439
Speaker 1: they'll make a note of dude, we're not even gonna

1369
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 1: get that. We're not even gonna get that, we're not

1370
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 1: even gonna get any kind of acknowledgment about anything, that

1371
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:10,800
Speaker 1: anything was mishandled, that anything or even not even mishandled,

1372
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:13,600
Speaker 1: could have been handled better. And by the way, if

1373
01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 1: you're at a point where you're getting multiple ipokes in

1374
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 1: a fight, however accidental they may be, maybe that proves

1375
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 1: that there should have been a point taken earlier. And

1376
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:24,719
Speaker 1: let's see what happens when you actually do that. Whether

1377
01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 1: I would love to see the data on what happens

1378
01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:30,880
Speaker 1: where if a fight has a point taken for ipokes,

1379
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:34,559
Speaker 1: how many ipokes happen subsequent to that. I bet the

1380
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:37,760
Speaker 1: number drops off pretty fucking rapidly. This is my point, BC.

1381
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:42,120
Speaker 1: I'm happy to entertain we have to treat these officials

1382
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:44,640
Speaker 1: with some degree of forgiveness. It sounds like I'm not

1383
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:46,640
Speaker 1: doing that, but I actually do believe that it is

1384
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:49,400
Speaker 1: a hard job. But if you're going to be forgiving

1385
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 1: of them, that means on the other end, there has

1386
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:55,240
Speaker 1: to be some kind of communication with the public, some

1387
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 1: kind of transparency, and some kind of process that acknowledges

1388
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:01,680
Speaker 1: an error was and we're gonna do our best to

1389
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 1: not do it again. Jason Herzog last week did that

1390
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 1: of his own volition. He volunteered for that, and that's

1391
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:11,639
Speaker 1: why we feel better about it. But if they don't

1392
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:14,880
Speaker 1: do that, we're just left here. Steve Willis owes the

1393
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 1: public something and I do think Michael Beltron is a

1394
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:19,680
Speaker 1: pretty good referee, whether he should have gotten this one

1395
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:22,080
Speaker 1: right in that particular instance or not. But we're just

1396
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 1: inheriting a situation. Referees of the fucking mma world. They're

1397
01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:31,519
Speaker 1: using the old gloves. There's no technological solution now or

1398
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 1: eminent to assist you with this. It is on you

1399
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 1: to do something about it. So I am begging you

1400
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 1: do something about it.

1401
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 2: Well, look, what do you have to say about the

1402
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:44,320
Speaker 2: way the replays were handled with the ipokes here?

1403
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:46,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, So when he got poked in round two and

1404
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 3: Beltron did stop the fight, they quickly then go to

1405
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:52,760
Speaker 3: the side referee to look at the replay. That referee

1406
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:55,000
Speaker 3: says it wasn't an epoke, so they don't even give

1407
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:57,840
Speaker 3: Almabai of the time to recover. They continue to fight.

1408
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 3: Then the broadcast shows the replay. Dom Cruise is like,

1409
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 3: what the fuck is that? That's a clear eyepoke. So

1410
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:08,720
Speaker 3: I'm a little more annoyed at that than i am

1411
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:11,479
Speaker 3: at the ones we eventually saw happen right before the

1412
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 3: finishing sequence where he's running away. Also the stoppage in general,

1413
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:16,719
Speaker 3: I know he's running away and you got to defend

1414
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 3: yourself and he.

1415
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 1: Was turning into the takedown.

1416
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 2: Dude, he had a double leg as they stopped the fight, Like,

1417
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 2: what the fuck is that?

1418
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:24,840
Speaker 1: Yeah? But also but dude, but dude, you can't lose.

1419
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 1: He was gonna lose well that and you can't flee

1420
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 1: your opponent, like.

1421
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 3: I know, I know, but Chelsea Chandler did it against

1422
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 3: Norman Dumont. No one batts and I at that, you

1423
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 3: know the hell?

1424
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:35,960
Speaker 1: I mean? He's like, hey, do you know there's inconsistent

1425
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 1: reffing standards, And I'm like, yes, yes, I am totally aware.

1426
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:40,639
Speaker 1: But it's a fair point.

1427
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:42,880
Speaker 2: But back to that tank scenario of where he actually

1428
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:45,040
Speaker 2: could have been decyed when they wiped his eyes. People

1429
01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:47,719
Speaker 2: forget sometimes. I know this is the case in boxing.

1430
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 2: I don't know if there's the same rule in MMA,

1431
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 2: but if you turn your back to the action at

1432
01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:55,120
Speaker 2: any point in a boxing match for any reason, they

1433
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:57,599
Speaker 2: can call the fight at TKO lost right there because

1434
01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:01,160
Speaker 2: you have stopped defending yourself. Now, they're not always that

1435
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:04,599
Speaker 2: like firm because it would be controversial, but like any

1436
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 2: form of like I'm not looking at my opponent, I'm

1437
01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:09,840
Speaker 2: not protecting myself, they can jump in and stop it.

1438
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 2: So it is dangerous in either sport to run away.

1439
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 2: It's not gonna help you. It's just like if you're

1440
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 2: getting lit up on the ropes, you're behind your high guard,

1441
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 2: but you're not throwing back at all, you also could

1442
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:22,960
Speaker 2: get the fight stop, so it's bang bang. I don't

1443
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:25,800
Speaker 2: want to I don't want to cook Beltran here. Yeah,

1444
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 2: but I hate it. But with that said, I hated

1445
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 2: the stoppage, and I feel really bad for Almabiah, who

1446
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:34,280
Speaker 2: I do believe was on his way to losing and

1447
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 2: sort of figuring out where he's at because Cop looks

1448
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 2: like a title holder right now or a title challenger.

1449
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:42,920
Speaker 2: I mean, he looks like he's ready. But damn, dude,

1450
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:45,799
Speaker 2: like to lose like that. You're also in the apex.

1451
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 2: You're also probably not getting paid well, I don't know.

1452
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 1: What I mean. He's coming in a short note. I'm

1453
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 1: gonna say this too, and it's not fair. It is

1454
01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 1: absolutely not fair. What I'm about to say is not fair.

1455
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:56,759
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's the reality. If you don't speak

1456
01:11:56,840 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 1: the same language as your referee, you got, you're you're

1457
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 1: taking some risks. Yes, you're taking some risks because you

1458
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 1: need the ability to both hear what they're saying to

1459
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 1: you as well as to be an advocate for yourself

1460
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 1: if you're a fighter in those really difficult scenarios. And

1461
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:18,040
Speaker 1: again maybe uh, you know, the same language won't save you.

1462
01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:20,200
Speaker 1: In fact, many cases it probably won't, but there could

1463
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 1: be a very critical one where it does.

1464
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:23,639
Speaker 6: Uh.

1465
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 1: And you know, to the Long Island Luke's point, like

1466
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:27,880
Speaker 1: where they're reviewing it and being like, yeah, nothing happened here,

1467
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:28,920
Speaker 1: and then you look at it and you're like, holy

1468
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:31,639
Speaker 1: fucking shit, this is quite obviously a problem. I'm gonna

1469
01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:33,760
Speaker 1: say it one more time, dude. The fighters have to

1470
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 1: I don't know what the fuck it could be, but

1471
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:40,479
Speaker 1: they are so at the mercy of whether it's the promoter,

1472
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:44,520
Speaker 1: whether it's the manager, whether it's the commission Dude, everybody

1473
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 1: just takes from these guys and hardly anybody gives it back.

1474
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 1: And the dispiriting part about it all, BC is that

1475
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 1: I'm not even sure the fighters care about getting what's owed.

1476
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:57,400
Speaker 1: But I can just look at this situation and be like,

1477
01:12:57,800 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 1: my lord, what an unequal uh, what an unequal segment

1478
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:05,439
Speaker 1: of sports? That that the power relationship between the fighters

1479
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:06,959
Speaker 1: and the sport itself. It's insane.

1480
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:09,559
Speaker 2: Like we always talk about a fighter union under the

1481
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:13,439
Speaker 2: guise of being paid the fair amount compared to what

1482
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 2: the promotion is making. But this would seem a good

1483
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 2: use of a fighter union to to you know, go

1484
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:22,679
Speaker 2: meet with the commissions and really push for rule changes

1485
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:25,840
Speaker 2: or clarity or some level of understanding higher than that.

1486
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:28,200
Speaker 2: But the other half of the story is what Cop

1487
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:31,720
Speaker 2: accomplished securing a title shot. I believe he did. You

1488
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:35,000
Speaker 2: did mention they had Pantosia on that UFC postfight show

1489
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:37,360
Speaker 2: and Luke. By the way, a lot of sleuths on

1490
01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 2: the internet saw that the lower third the cry on

1491
01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:43,120
Speaker 2: there when Pantosia skyped or zoomed in. I'm sure not

1492
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 2: skype Luke because they're going to get rid of.

1493
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 1: That still around now.

1494
01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it said UFC three seventeen was the little logo

1495
01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 2: next to his name, So I don't know if that

1496
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:54,719
Speaker 2: was an error or if that was an extra sixteen

1497
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 2: sixteen sixteen. Yeah, so is that that's the Newark card

1498
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 2: June seventh. I want wonder if we're gonna see Cop

1499
01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 2: versus Pantosia too on that. But let's hear Cop after

1500
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 2: the fight at the press conference talking about this potential

1501
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 2: rematch and if you get that matchup, how different is

1502
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 2: that fight gonna look this time?

1503
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:15,280
Speaker 4: They're gonna be very very different. I'm in another dimension

1504
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 4: of the fight and his things being being good I

1505
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 4: mean my timing, I'm being shown. I'm in a flow

1506
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 4: states and definitely with the Pantosia, my salary with him

1507
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:31,400
Speaker 4: is gonna match very well, and I believe that I'm

1508
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:33,559
Speaker 4: gonna I'm definitely gonna stop him.

1509
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:36,120
Speaker 2: And you definitely have shown growth, But can you can

1510
01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:38,160
Speaker 2: you admit that he's shown growth as well in this

1511
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 2: time since then?

1512
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 4: Yes, but he's been very sloppy. If you see Pantosia,

1513
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:45,599
Speaker 4: he didn't finish hersick. You know, he didn't finish her sick.

1514
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:49,559
Speaker 4: And it's good, but it's not that good. It's not

1515
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:53,800
Speaker 4: that level. He's not the just beat him, you know,

1516
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:57,559
Speaker 4: so you should, you should, you should finish him, and

1517
01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 4: they become very sloppy of the third roum. You know,

1518
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:06,439
Speaker 4: he's been gets a lot of a lot of like

1519
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 4: street fight, bully fights. You know, he stayed a beautiful fight.

1520
01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:13,760
Speaker 4: What I've been show is a beautiful fights, a masterclass.

1521
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:18,919
Speaker 4: I've been dominate him. I've been show levels against my opponents,

1522
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 4: and my opens was not easy openings. They they are

1523
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:26,200
Speaker 4: tremendous guys that come with the four wind streak and

1524
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 4: knockouts like Bruno Siova. This guy was coming with seventeen

1525
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:36,080
Speaker 4: wind streak. Nobody wants to fight him. He's a heavy wrestler,

1526
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:38,880
Speaker 4: you know, so that's the reason.

1527
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:44,719
Speaker 2: So look, these two fought in a non title about

1528
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one three rounds. Cop did tell me this

1529
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:49,800
Speaker 2: week last week that he would have won if it

1530
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:52,840
Speaker 2: was five rounds, but the scores after three were thirty

1531
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 2: to twenty seven and twenty nine to twenty eight on

1532
01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:58,360
Speaker 2: the other two scorecards in favor of Pantosia. That was

1533
01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:01,600
Speaker 2: four years ago, though how much has how much have

1534
01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:04,519
Speaker 2: the stakes or not the stakes? But the difference is

1535
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 2: between them changed since then? And how excited would you

1536
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:09,240
Speaker 2: be if this was the next title shot?

1537
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:13,800
Speaker 1: I think, you know, I I'll say this. I think

1538
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:17,479
Speaker 1: Cop is a deserving title challenger, and he as such

1539
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:20,040
Speaker 1: deserves a fight. I think it could go very differently

1540
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:21,960
Speaker 1: than the first one. I mean, Pantojia is also at

1541
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:23,600
Speaker 1: the peak of his powers, or it seems like he is.

1542
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:25,200
Speaker 1: I mean, every time I think he's going to fall

1543
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:27,760
Speaker 1: off because of all the wars, he looks even better

1544
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 1: the following time. You know, like I've had a bit

1545
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:32,559
Speaker 1: of a rough streak in terms of predicting his demise

1546
01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 1: and so I'm really not in the business of doing

1547
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:36,360
Speaker 1: that much anymore. At the same time, he is a

1548
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:38,640
Speaker 1: little bit older. He has a very different kind of

1549
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 1: skill set than Cop and cops you know, sniper precision

1550
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 1: and whatnot. Could be a big problem. But of course

1551
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:44,800
Speaker 1: against Makaia, have you saw that again? That was a

1552
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:47,799
Speaker 1: weird fight. I don't know, you know what lessons totally

1553
01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:49,680
Speaker 1: to infer from that. But the point I'm trying to

1554
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:51,519
Speaker 1: make is it's a good style contrast. It's got it

1555
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:53,880
Speaker 1: because some rivalry. Cop will talk it up. It's the

1556
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:56,160
Speaker 1: right fight to make me see I'm like, I'm not

1557
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:58,240
Speaker 1: saying there aren't other good fighters or guys who you know,

1558
01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 1: are kind of in that conversation. But CoP's done enough.

1559
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:04,800
Speaker 1: It's a good fight, good rivalry, nice rematch. Flyweight needs

1560
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:06,920
Speaker 1: some of that. Let's do it. It's the right fight

1561
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 1: to make.

1562
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:09,719
Speaker 2: Let's bring in our betting and bong expert Long Island

1563
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:11,600
Speaker 2: Luke at the main card minute, Luke, what do you

1564
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:14,240
Speaker 2: think the line should be if we see this rematch

1565
01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:14,839
Speaker 2: in June.

1566
01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:20,200
Speaker 3: I'm still gonna favor Pantosia. I'd probably go like minus

1567
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:24,560
Speaker 3: shit minus one eighty Pantosa plus two hundred cops something like, Okay.

1568
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:26,799
Speaker 2: That's fair, that's fair, that's that's okay.

1569
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 1: Does that I f I go to a decision or not? Yes,

1570
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:33,519
Speaker 1: it does. Okay.

1571
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:37,439
Speaker 2: Interesting stuff you got there, Luke. When you look at

1572
01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:41,160
Speaker 2: the rest of the fight night Card, I know you

1573
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:43,080
Speaker 2: weren't into the fight, but shout out to front of

1574
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:46,240
Speaker 2: the program, Cody Brundage, who likes our shit on Instagram.

1575
01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:47,760
Speaker 1: Listen, listen, let me tell you about let me tell

1576
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 1: you about what Cody did. Cody. Cody put his balls

1577
01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:53,200
Speaker 1: out on the table and said, Mice paid low tas

1578
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:57,120
Speaker 1: astana key. You know what I'm saying. He went out there. Listen,

1579
01:17:57,200 --> 01:18:00,519
Speaker 1: those two guys, we said it. We'll we like Cody

1580
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 1: on the show. We absolutely like Cody on the show.

1581
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 1: But we didn't know if that was necessarily the best

1582
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 1: UFC main event on paper, you know. And them two

1583
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 1: motherfuckers went out there and just hammered the shit out

1584
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:12,840
Speaker 1: of each other's brains. And first Cody was up, and

1585
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 1: then Julian came back, and then Cody stormed back. That

1586
01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:19,479
Speaker 1: fight was probably the best version of whatever you were

1587
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:21,840
Speaker 1: going to get from them in that particular role. So

1588
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:24,559
Speaker 1: salute they gave you what they had. You can't ask

1589
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:26,479
Speaker 1: for more. I'm I'm thrilled.

1590
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:29,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Shout out to South Carolina's Cody Brundage right

1591
01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 2: there getting that win back. What else did you like

1592
01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:35,759
Speaker 2: on this undercard? Luke? I sawnas? How do you pronounce

1593
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:40,679
Speaker 2: that correctly? Nasrod hacked peass I afterwards it looked pretty gnarly,

1594
01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:44,840
Speaker 2: but he gets a close decision win overall action, Esteban Ribovich,

1595
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:47,200
Speaker 2: did this move you at all? It?

1596
01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:49,400
Speaker 1: Did? It moved you know what? Let's bring them back

1597
01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:52,160
Speaker 1: one more time. Bong on, Luke, this is your thirty

1598
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:54,760
Speaker 1: seconds to bitch about this fight. What do you have

1599
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:55,200
Speaker 1: to say?

1600
01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:58,479
Speaker 3: I'm only bitching because Esteban outstruck him by like twenty

1601
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:03,120
Speaker 3: significant strikes, a clear two to one to me. PC

1602
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:05,360
Speaker 3: just mentioned Nasarat's face at the end of the fight,

1603
01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 3: like if you're looking at you want to do the

1604
01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:10,879
Speaker 3: old face test. I mean, it's Esteban's fight. I'm honestly

1605
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 3: just salty about it because I lost out on a

1606
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 3: parlay on it.

1607
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:14,559
Speaker 1: But I want to give a shout.

1608
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:17,719
Speaker 3: Out to Sam Patterson who knocked out Danny Barlow ended

1609
01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:20,400
Speaker 3: that hype train didn't even get a performance bonus, kind

1610
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:22,439
Speaker 3: of wild, probably one of the best finishes of the.

1611
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:25,080
Speaker 1: Night, and did it relatively quickly as well. If I

1612
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 1: can be seen though, I'll go in a bit of

1613
01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:29,400
Speaker 1: a different direction. First of all, Andrea Lee, six losses

1614
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:31,200
Speaker 1: in a row, I would imagine this is probably the

1615
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 1: end of her UFC run. I don't know. I guess

1616
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:33,719
Speaker 1: we'll see you were.

1617
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:35,040
Speaker 2: Running for governor of Hawaii as soon.

1618
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:37,240
Speaker 1: If she keeps this up, you know it's up there.

1619
01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:40,120
Speaker 1: As you mentioned, Sam Patterson having the great knockout that

1620
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:43,160
Speaker 1: was phenomenal. We talked about the Comaine. I gotta say

1621
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:47,120
Speaker 1: the opening bout on the card, Ramazan Temarov defeating Charles Johnson. Now,

1622
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:49,720
Speaker 1: Charles Johnson's storm back big in that third round. You

1623
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 1: could even argue that maybe he got it two to one.

1624
01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:55,439
Speaker 1: It was very, very competitive. But I hadn't really seen

1625
01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:59,439
Speaker 1: much at all of Ramazan Temarov, and he looked fantastic, great, great,

1626
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:03,639
Speaker 1: great opening fight on this card. That was phenomenal. And uh,

1627
01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:08,680
Speaker 1: by the way, Mario Pinto absolutely sending Austin Lane to

1628
01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:13,640
Speaker 1: the motherfucking land all that wind and ghosts with a

1629
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:15,719
Speaker 1: two hitter, well really a one, but you know, Bop

1630
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 1: Bop caught him phenomenal knockout by him, phenomena.

1631
01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:24,400
Speaker 2: You were loving it, Louk. Hey, don't forget people. If

1632
01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:26,479
Speaker 2: you want more UFC coverage, and I know you do.

1633
01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:29,280
Speaker 2: I hear the I hear the words. I mean, this

1634
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:32,160
Speaker 2: is a big boxing weekend. But this Saturday, of course,

1635
01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:37,040
Speaker 2: is UFC three thirteen in Las Vegas. It is Poetan

1636
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:42,040
Speaker 2: versus and eliav. It is physive versus gay Chee two,

1637
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:46,479
Speaker 2: and it is pregame preview this Friday live eleven am

1638
01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:54,519
Speaker 2: Eastern from Metal Arc Studio in Manhattan, bc LT. And

1639
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:57,240
Speaker 2: the man in the damn hat Chuck mindenhall, Yan Yen,

1640
01:20:57,320 --> 01:20:59,519
Speaker 2: you're excited. Yeah, you want to be there. Look, let's

1641
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 2: let's take down a couple shots of cuervo and have

1642
01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:02,679
Speaker 2: some fun.

1643
01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:05,200
Speaker 1: What do you think I'll do it. I'll do it nothing. Hey, listen, Luke,

1644
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 1: we need you to drink on the job, motherfucker. I'll

1645
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:07,719
Speaker 1: be there.

1646
01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:09,720
Speaker 2: Oh are you gonna bring Tuki?

1647
01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:13,040
Speaker 1: We'll see, We'll see, because.

1648
01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:17,040
Speaker 2: I mean, look, in different cultures, Luke, they drink alcohol

1649
01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:19,759
Speaker 2: before the age of eighteen. They have wine with their parents.

1650
01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:22,640
Speaker 2: Is Tuke gonna take a shot? I can't believe I

1651
01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 2: said that. Love, Sorry, Luke, let's move.

1652
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:25,760
Speaker 1: Yeah she's five.

1653
01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:28,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, thank you very much. All right. Our final

1654
01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 2: topic surrounds a tradition in boxing, right from Oscrew de

1655
01:21:32,479 --> 01:21:35,880
Speaker 2: la Joya to Floyd Mayweather to Canelo Alvarez. There's those

1656
01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:40,800
Speaker 2: two holidays in Las Vegas representing the Mexican people, Cinco

1657
01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 2: de Mayo in May and Independence Weekend there in September.

1658
01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:46,840
Speaker 2: But we're talking about this Sinco de Mayo in May,

1659
01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:50,960
Speaker 2: where we won't see just one big boxing event. We're

1660
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:55,000
Speaker 2: gonna see three of them in consecutive days. With Turkey

1661
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:57,720
Speaker 2: Alosk having a hand, it seems to some degree in

1662
01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:02,000
Speaker 2: all three. So here's what we do know. Friday, May second,

1663
01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:07,080
Speaker 2: actually in Times Square, according to Ring mag and Turkey

1664
01:22:07,160 --> 01:22:10,000
Speaker 2: on social media, Ali Sheik has announced that his own

1665
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:13,599
Speaker 2: pay per view tripleheader. We already knew Ryan Garcia versus

1666
01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:17,000
Speaker 2: Rolando Romero at welterwait in the main event. We already

1667
01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:20,200
Speaker 2: knew Devin Handy will take on Jose Ramerez at welterweit

1668
01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:23,200
Speaker 2: in the co main event. As Haiti has given up

1669
01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:27,400
Speaker 2: that title, which set up that Puayo versus Sandor Martin

1670
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:31,080
Speaker 2: fight at one on Saturday night, but Luke Martin Bacoli

1671
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:35,040
Speaker 2: versus fa Ajagba will not happen to open that card.

1672
01:22:35,720 --> 01:22:39,960
Speaker 2: Turkey has added Teyo Fimo Lopez defending his one hundred

1673
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:44,599
Speaker 2: and forty pound title against mandatory unbeaten breakthrough artist Arnold

1674
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:49,840
Speaker 2: Barbosa Junior. And we have an AI created by Ring

1675
01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:53,880
Speaker 2: mag look of what Times Square can look like where

1676
01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:56,960
Speaker 2: reportedly you can't sell tickets to an outdoor event in

1677
01:22:57,040 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 2: Times Square. So I don't know how we're gonna do this.

1678
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:02,960
Speaker 2: Uh do we have the picture that's what it could

1679
01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:04,800
Speaker 2: look like there? Remember we did see that.

1680
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:08,160
Speaker 1: I want to be clear, it's not gonna look anything

1681
01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:09,600
Speaker 1: like this, but okay.

1682
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:12,160
Speaker 2: Okay, well that's what we got there. So that's Friday.

1683
01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:16,400
Speaker 2: All right, There you go Saturday, May third from RIOD

1684
01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia and supposedly airing in primetime in the US.

1685
01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:22,599
Speaker 2: You're gonna get Canelo Alvarez on I believed his own

1686
01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:26,040
Speaker 2: pay per view uh, looking to unify all four one

1687
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty eight pound titles again when he welcomes

1688
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:31,800
Speaker 2: unhralded IBF title holder William Skull. I believe you're gonna

1689
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:35,599
Speaker 2: get a Haimimongia Bruno Serachi rematch in the Comaine, among others,

1690
01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:39,800
Speaker 2: and recently teased is the idea that Top Rank will

1691
01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:43,080
Speaker 2: run a show Sunday, May fourth from Las Vegas where

1692
01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:46,000
Speaker 2: Niwa Nue will defend his undisputed one hundred and twenty

1693
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:49,120
Speaker 2: two pound title, not against David Allen Picasso, as those

1694
01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:54,080
Speaker 2: negotiations have fallen apart, but Ramon cardenis a slugger from

1695
01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:57,000
Speaker 2: San Antonio. I've called his fights on Showbox in the past.

1696
01:23:57,400 --> 01:23:59,720
Speaker 2: It looks like he could be the opponent there. And

1697
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:03,839
Speaker 2: of course course the connection with Turkey is that Niowa

1698
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:06,280
Speaker 2: in a way assigned to Riad season and wants to

1699
01:24:06,280 --> 01:24:09,720
Speaker 2: fight four times this year, including making his debut in

1700
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:12,479
Speaker 2: Saudi later in this year. Look, if this happens, these

1701
01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:17,200
Speaker 2: are three pretty damn big fight cards in succession, three

1702
01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:19,679
Speaker 2: days in a row. I'm not sure we've seen something

1703
01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:22,879
Speaker 2: like this since UFC two hundred weekend back in twenty sixteen.

1704
01:24:23,439 --> 01:24:27,760
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on this kind of boxing craziness here?

1705
01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 1: Well, I mean there's good and there's bad, right, So,

1706
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:32,720
Speaker 1: first of all, the Canelo versus Skull fight to me

1707
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:35,479
Speaker 1: is just a gigantic waste of everyone's time, Like I'm

1708
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:37,479
Speaker 1: just gonna say it out loud like that. Yeah, it's

1709
01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:40,880
Speaker 1: part of the Sinko de Maaya weekend. That's fine if

1710
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:42,880
Speaker 1: you're a Canelo fan, you get to see him back

1711
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:45,479
Speaker 1: in action again. But for anybody who cares about halfway

1712
01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:48,400
Speaker 1: decent fights, like that's a complete waste of time. The

1713
01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:50,840
Speaker 1: other ones are kind of interesting along the way BC

1714
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:52,559
Speaker 1: and I want to make a point too, like you've

1715
01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:56,800
Speaker 1: got Ryan Garcia and Tao Femo Lopez on the same card. Boy,

1716
01:24:56,960 --> 01:24:59,840
Speaker 1: that is just a racist delight. I mean, you're gonna

1717
01:24:59,840 --> 01:25:04,160
Speaker 1: get at every possible awful thing said probably during the

1718
01:25:04,160 --> 01:25:06,320
Speaker 1: course of that fight. Week we're coming off of one

1719
01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:08,960
Speaker 1: between Tank and Roach. I just want to point this out, Like,

1720
01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:11,840
Speaker 1: you know Roach, obviously, in Tank they say nasty things

1721
01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:14,080
Speaker 1: to each other, but I think in general it's within

1722
01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:16,400
Speaker 1: the sort of normal boundaries of what you get with

1723
01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:19,559
Speaker 1: competitive prize fighters. Him and his team carried themselves with class,

1724
01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:21,639
Speaker 1: and I thought Tank didn't really mess anything up either.

1725
01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:23,800
Speaker 1: You know you're gonna get the opposite of that. I

1726
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:25,439
Speaker 1: just want to point out that there are differences in

1727
01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 1: how this game is played and who plays them and

1728
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:30,320
Speaker 1: what that means that being said, putting it on in

1729
01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:32,920
Speaker 1: Times Square BC is an interesting idea. We've talked about

1730
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:35,360
Speaker 1: this before and now you'll recall I've actually been to

1731
01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:39,919
Speaker 1: a combat sports event in Times Square, namely Beat the Streets.

1732
01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:43,480
Speaker 1: This is the USA Wrestling kind of like an exhibition

1733
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:46,120
Speaker 1: that they put on where they'll get like top wrestlers

1734
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 1: from another country against America's top wrestlers and then other

1735
01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:50,840
Speaker 1: stuff in between, and it's just a showcase to promote

1736
01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:54,000
Speaker 1: USA Wrestling. Turkey is doing it, probably to promote the

1737
01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:56,799
Speaker 1: Ring magazine or his boxing business or you know whatever,

1738
01:25:57,160 --> 01:25:58,760
Speaker 1: but that could be really really fun. And you're and

1739
01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:00,439
Speaker 1: let's be clear, you know, whatever else you want to

1740
01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:03,280
Speaker 1: say about Ryan and Rolie and everybody else, these are

1741
01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:07,240
Speaker 1: action fighters. These are action fights. These are you know,

1742
01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:09,519
Speaker 1: in general, I'm looking at this card BC and I'm

1743
01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:11,679
Speaker 1: wondering which one of these is gonna be the worst ones,

1744
01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:14,120
Speaker 1: not because I'm expecting the worst, but because I'm actually

1745
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:16,960
Speaker 1: expecting them to be pretty action packed. And it's kind

1746
01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:18,639
Speaker 1: of hard to know who's gonna pull up the rear

1747
01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:21,439
Speaker 1: or so to speak, in terms of you know, delivering

1748
01:26:21,479 --> 01:26:23,320
Speaker 1: for the fans. So like if you're trying to put

1749
01:26:23,600 --> 01:26:27,880
Speaker 1: put a card together in Times Square. These are some

1750
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:29,479
Speaker 1: of the fights at least in terms of like on

1751
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:32,800
Speaker 1: paper or the ingredients, you know, racism aside, you would

1752
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:35,439
Speaker 1: put together to make it work. The one thing I'll

1753
01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:38,479
Speaker 1: say is it bums me out. It bums me out

1754
01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:41,280
Speaker 1: to no end that a pound for pound guy in Canelo.

1755
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:44,160
Speaker 1: Granted it's a you know whatever, he's trying to get

1756
01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:45,880
Speaker 1: all the belts. I get it, but it's a waste

1757
01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:49,720
Speaker 1: of time. BC. I freaking love Noia in a way.

1758
01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:51,920
Speaker 1: We all love Noya in a way, but this fight

1759
01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:55,760
Speaker 1: is on no one's fucking radar at all. So it's like,

1760
01:26:56,240 --> 01:26:59,560
Speaker 1: how do we package BC the reality that across the

1761
01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:03,559
Speaker 1: globe the Earth, you're gonna be getting multiple pound for

1762
01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:07,320
Speaker 1: pound guys competing on the same week while basically a

1763
01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:10,120
Speaker 1: free event takes place in Times Square. You gotta be

1764
01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:12,599
Speaker 1: happy about all of that. But the pound for pound

1765
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:17,519
Speaker 1: guys B see not really pulling their weight, are they? No?

1766
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:20,439
Speaker 2: I mean, here's the deal. Is something It's supposed to

1767
01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:22,800
Speaker 2: be a free event to Times Square one because of

1768
01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:24,680
Speaker 2: the rules on selling tickets, So there's gonna be a

1769
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:27,600
Speaker 2: certain amount of space that spectators can Calm and Bleachers.

1770
01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:30,760
Speaker 2: But that's a pay per view and I like these

1771
01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:32,960
Speaker 2: three matchups. I like all three of them to certain

1772
01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:35,880
Speaker 2: levels of degrees. But I get where everyone's saying, it's

1773
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:38,360
Speaker 2: not like this is Ryan Garcia versus Hainy two. This

1774
01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:41,040
Speaker 2: is to build to that, and it's still a pay

1775
01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:43,120
Speaker 2: per view. You know, it is what it is. On

1776
01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:48,040
Speaker 2: that regard, there's a lot of thought that cardon Us,

1777
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:50,920
Speaker 2: who is a good fighter, does have power, maybe is

1778
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:53,240
Speaker 2: only in this spot because of his Mexican heritage. So

1779
01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:56,360
Speaker 2: you can have a fight in Vegas on single Demio weekend.

1780
01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:58,439
Speaker 2: So I'm glad that one promoter at least is trying

1781
01:27:58,479 --> 01:28:02,960
Speaker 2: to take advantage of that. Yeah, it is gonna be interesting.

1782
01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:05,000
Speaker 2: This is the second the Friday Night one in Time Squares,

1783
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:08,240
Speaker 2: the second Ring Magazine branded card that Turkey's gonna roll

1784
01:28:08,240 --> 01:28:11,280
Speaker 2: out after that. Connor Ben Chris Ubank won in April.

1785
01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:17,439
Speaker 2: So I hate the Saturday fight, but I really like,

1786
01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:19,600
Speaker 2: I really like the matchups on this Friday fight and

1787
01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:22,559
Speaker 2: where they're gonna go next. What do you think about

1788
01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:25,280
Speaker 2: the news that we have heard overnight? Added to this

1789
01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:29,519
Speaker 2: the fact that Jim Lampley, the famous voice of HBO

1790
01:28:29,640 --> 01:28:31,640
Speaker 2: boxing that so many of us grew up with and

1791
01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:34,360
Speaker 2: have beloved. He has not called the fight since the

1792
01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:37,120
Speaker 2: end of HBO in twenty eighteen. He almost called that

1793
01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:40,360
Speaker 2: Tayo Femou Cambosis fight that was supposed to be on Triller,

1794
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:42,880
Speaker 2: but then that fight fell apart. Triller defaulted on it

1795
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:45,880
Speaker 2: and and that ended up on his own. Turkey met

1796
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:48,639
Speaker 2: with Jim Lampley. They put out a picture and Jim

1797
01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:51,880
Speaker 2: Lampley's gonna do play by play on this card with

1798
01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:55,519
Speaker 2: Haini Garcia and Tayo Fimo. No word yet if they're

1799
01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:58,360
Speaker 2: gonna go the full x HBO route and add Roy

1800
01:28:58,439 --> 01:29:01,160
Speaker 2: Jones and Max Kellerman. I saw it. Al Bernstein kind

1801
01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:02,760
Speaker 2: of pitch it out there on Twitter that he would

1802
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:06,559
Speaker 2: like to be involved. We've seen Jim of late. It's

1803
01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:08,080
Speaker 2: great to catch up with him. I like that he's

1804
01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:10,760
Speaker 2: making the rounds on media. He's got great insights on

1805
01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:13,080
Speaker 2: the sport and the history. You think this will be

1806
01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:14,880
Speaker 2: a big deal, Look, you think this will pull out

1807
01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:17,519
Speaker 2: the nostalgia and the boxing fans to have Lampley's voice

1808
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:20,280
Speaker 2: back in Times Square with these big names on this card.

1809
01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:22,800
Speaker 1: No, not really, It's probably just a good will thing

1810
01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:25,800
Speaker 1: to get on the right side of American boxing fans,

1811
01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:27,800
Speaker 1: which is fine. I like Jim a lot, but I'm

1812
01:29:27,800 --> 01:29:29,920
Speaker 1: just gonna say this, there's a lot of old motherfuckers

1813
01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:35,280
Speaker 1: in boxing, you know, and to me, you know, BC,

1814
01:29:35,439 --> 01:29:36,920
Speaker 1: you don't have to chime in here. I'm just gonna

1815
01:29:36,920 --> 01:29:42,160
Speaker 1: make my point. There's not many chairs available for broadcasting

1816
01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:44,680
Speaker 1: jobs in boxing. They're very, very difficult to get. They

1817
01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:46,960
Speaker 1: take time, you have to be very good. You kind

1818
01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:49,000
Speaker 1: of got to know the right people depending on who

1819
01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:51,439
Speaker 1: it is. It's tough. It's real tough. What makes it

1820
01:29:51,439 --> 01:29:53,400
Speaker 1: even harder is when, you know, you see a lot

1821
01:29:53,439 --> 01:29:56,719
Speaker 1: of the boxing guys who just hold these jobs for decades,

1822
01:29:56,760 --> 01:29:58,760
Speaker 1: and in part because they're really good, but in part

1823
01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:01,559
Speaker 1: because this is just all that they know and it

1824
01:30:01,600 --> 01:30:04,040
Speaker 1: doesn't really allow for a new generation and new crop

1825
01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:06,559
Speaker 1: to come up. And I'm not gonna say easily supplant them,

1826
01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:09,760
Speaker 1: but you know, for a natural handoff. So I'm happy

1827
01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:11,200
Speaker 1: to see Jim back in the sense, you know, I

1828
01:30:11,200 --> 01:30:12,680
Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna you know, I don't think it's

1829
01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:16,240
Speaker 1: some scourge where he's taking jobs from everybody. But I

1830
01:30:16,400 --> 01:30:18,320
Speaker 1: just look at you know, and then again he would

1831
01:30:18,360 --> 01:30:20,760
Speaker 1: be doing play by play. You don't even do that necessarily,

1832
01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:22,479
Speaker 1: bec But like I'm just gonna point this out, Like,

1833
01:30:23,240 --> 01:30:26,240
Speaker 1: you know, this was the biggest assignment of your career

1834
01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:28,720
Speaker 1: last weekend. It shouldn't have taken this long for you

1835
01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:30,720
Speaker 1: to get that far. I think you've been ready for

1836
01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:34,000
Speaker 1: it a very long time. And to me, what boxing

1837
01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:38,400
Speaker 1: needs is a lot more fresh blood, not not the opposite.

1838
01:30:38,439 --> 01:30:40,840
Speaker 1: Even if we can grant that Jim Lampley is probably

1839
01:30:40,840 --> 01:30:42,360
Speaker 1: one of the very best, if not the best from

1840
01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:44,840
Speaker 1: play by play perspective, to ever do it, and I

1841
01:30:44,880 --> 01:30:46,600
Speaker 1: have I have total respect for him. But you know,

1842
01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:48,599
Speaker 1: it's time for some fresh faces. And I'm not trying

1843
01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:50,520
Speaker 1: to be a hater saying that. I'm trying to acknowledge

1844
01:30:50,920 --> 01:30:55,280
Speaker 1: all of the new great broadcasting folks that are out there,

1845
01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:56,960
Speaker 1: and BC, I think you're obviously at the front of

1846
01:30:56,960 --> 01:30:59,160
Speaker 1: that pack. So that's just my view on the whole thing.

1847
01:30:59,320 --> 01:31:01,800
Speaker 2: I appreciate those kind words and sentiments, and I do

1848
01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:03,599
Speaker 2: have a lot of love for all those guys as well.

1849
01:31:03,680 --> 01:31:06,280
Speaker 1: So we've learned a lot from them. We learned a

1850
01:31:06,320 --> 01:31:09,000
Speaker 1: lot from them. Oh yeah, you also know it's time

1851
01:31:09,040 --> 01:31:10,000
Speaker 1: to move it along a little bit.

1852
01:31:10,880 --> 01:31:15,559
Speaker 2: Early odds have Roley plus four to eighty against the

1853
01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:20,240
Speaker 2: minus seven hundred Ryan Garcia Devin Haney minus one thousand.

1854
01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:23,800
Speaker 2: This is the one that popped me minus one thousand

1855
01:31:24,240 --> 01:31:27,719
Speaker 2: against the plus six thirty Jose Ramirez. Now looke Hani

1856
01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:30,559
Speaker 2: should win this, but he's coming off a year layoff,

1857
01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:32,760
Speaker 2: a fight in which he was dropped a whole bunch

1858
01:31:32,760 --> 01:31:35,679
Speaker 2: of times, the worst year of pr he could have had,

1859
01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:38,559
Speaker 2: and he tried to sue Ryan Garcia, and he's a

1860
01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:42,120
Speaker 2: minus one thousand betting favorite against the former unified champion

1861
01:31:42,120 --> 01:31:44,720
Speaker 2: at one forty who still got something left. Yeah, he

1862
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:47,120
Speaker 2: did lose to Arnold Barbosa, but I don't know. I

1863
01:31:47,479 --> 01:31:48,599
Speaker 2: thought that was a little bit interesting.

1864
01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:50,599
Speaker 1: I think it's a little strong, but not that much.

1865
01:31:50,640 --> 01:31:52,439
Speaker 1: I don't think it's crazy. I think Ramirez is a

1866
01:31:52,439 --> 01:31:54,320
Speaker 1: little bit past it.

1867
01:31:54,880 --> 01:31:58,000
Speaker 2: Minus three thousand for Canelo to the plus eleven d

1868
01:31:58,360 --> 01:32:01,479
Speaker 2: goal and then Tao will be minus three hundred Teyo

1869
01:32:01,560 --> 01:32:05,240
Speaker 2: Femo against the plus two twenty Arnold Barboza. That might

1870
01:32:05,280 --> 01:32:07,840
Speaker 2: be the best fight of that weekend in terms of

1871
01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:10,960
Speaker 2: like competitiveness, and we don't really know what's gonna happen.

1872
01:32:11,240 --> 01:32:13,760
Speaker 1: Yes, Ryan and Rollie is the one that's got the

1873
01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:17,040
Speaker 1: most explosive potential, you think, but I agree with you.

1874
01:32:17,120 --> 01:32:19,479
Speaker 1: Tayo versus Barbosa is the one that's actually got some

1875
01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:22,639
Speaker 1: real legitimate, you know, talent between them.

1876
01:32:22,800 --> 01:32:24,920
Speaker 2: All Right, that'll wrap up our five topics. Now we

1877
01:32:24,960 --> 01:32:27,120
Speaker 2: get the opportunity for you to ask us questions, and

1878
01:32:27,160 --> 01:32:31,760
Speaker 2: every Sunday night at morning combat on Instagram and X

1879
01:32:32,280 --> 01:32:35,559
Speaker 2: we put out the poll. The poll. We let you

1880
01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:39,240
Speaker 2: pull us. No, we pull you to ask us quest No,

1881
01:32:39,280 --> 01:32:42,240
Speaker 2: it's your poll, and here's your questions, and we'll give

1882
01:32:42,240 --> 01:32:47,400
Speaker 2: you some crappy answers. This one's called DMS from docs.

1883
01:32:51,160 --> 01:32:54,200
Speaker 2: That's just disgusting anyway. Our first question comes from D

1884
01:32:54,520 --> 01:32:58,840
Speaker 2: Sarge nineteen ninety seven and D Sarge Les Lucoffin says,

1885
01:32:58,880 --> 01:33:01,120
Speaker 2: it's not your fault. Were born in the late nineties

1886
01:33:01,160 --> 01:33:03,679
Speaker 2: and don't get any of our references, he says, except

1887
01:33:03,720 --> 01:33:07,000
Speaker 2: for Francis. I think he's talking about Inganu unless he's

1888
01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:10,080
Speaker 2: talking about former Hartford Whaler center Ron. Francis shout out,

1889
01:33:10,479 --> 01:33:14,240
Speaker 2: are there any heavyweights that the UFC could sign that

1890
01:33:14,320 --> 01:33:17,320
Speaker 2: would inject some life into the division?

1891
01:33:17,439 --> 01:33:17,639
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1892
01:33:17,680 --> 01:33:20,160
Speaker 2: And I'll add to this that Tom Asmnall just put

1893
01:33:20,200 --> 01:33:23,360
Speaker 2: out a video on a train yesterday updating and saying

1894
01:33:23,680 --> 01:33:26,000
Speaker 2: he wants to fight Jones. He doesn't know what the

1895
01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:28,160
Speaker 2: issue is. The issue is Jones, he doesn't know if

1896
01:33:28,200 --> 01:33:30,519
Speaker 2: it's about money, blah blah blah. He's still willing to

1897
01:33:30,560 --> 01:33:33,439
Speaker 2: retire Jones by never fighting him. But Luke, who can

1898
01:33:33,479 --> 01:33:35,759
Speaker 2: they sign? It's the same question you can ask PFL

1899
01:33:36,080 --> 01:33:39,080
Speaker 2: regarding who can you get to fight Francis? Who could

1900
01:33:39,080 --> 01:33:40,400
Speaker 2: the UFC sign.

1901
01:33:40,439 --> 01:33:43,400
Speaker 1: BC Just noodle something for a second, right, I mean

1902
01:33:43,439 --> 01:33:45,280
Speaker 1: are the names you could sign and a totally Mallekin

1903
01:33:45,320 --> 01:33:48,080
Speaker 1: you could sign, but deem Nemcovy and though he's team

1904
01:33:48,120 --> 01:33:49,800
Speaker 1: fad or you could sign him up or at least

1905
01:33:49,840 --> 01:33:53,240
Speaker 1: you know, in theory soon you could sign him root Rugrug.

1906
01:33:53,280 --> 01:33:54,960
Speaker 1: You know these are guys that eventually will come up

1907
01:33:54,960 --> 01:33:56,920
Speaker 1: that you could sign, right, I mean it's not immediately available,

1908
01:33:56,960 --> 01:33:59,120
Speaker 1: but you would imagine over time these are things you

1909
01:33:59,120 --> 01:34:02,760
Speaker 1: could go after to point out something. That division is

1910
01:34:02,800 --> 01:34:08,000
Speaker 1: in insane disrepair and they would rather let Francis sit

1911
01:34:08,080 --> 01:34:12,840
Speaker 1: in exile forever then bring him back and reinject some

1912
01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:16,479
Speaker 1: fucking life into that division. That tells you not only

1913
01:34:16,479 --> 01:34:18,439
Speaker 1: the strength of their market position, that they don't even

1914
01:34:18,560 --> 01:34:21,920
Speaker 1: give a fuck that that that the division is just

1915
01:34:22,320 --> 01:34:25,320
Speaker 1: ass I mean butt cheeks right now, and they're not

1916
01:34:25,320 --> 01:34:27,960
Speaker 1: gonna do anything to even bother fixing it, even though

1917
01:34:28,120 --> 01:34:30,519
Speaker 1: Francis by himself, let's be fair, of course, could not

1918
01:34:30,680 --> 01:34:33,120
Speaker 1: fix it, but it would go a long way towards

1919
01:34:33,200 --> 01:34:36,479
Speaker 1: creating some potentially compelling matchups all the way around, and

1920
01:34:36,520 --> 01:34:39,080
Speaker 1: it doesn't look like that's even something they'll even consider.

1921
01:34:40,280 --> 01:34:42,280
Speaker 1: That says a lot I think about the state of

1922
01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:43,920
Speaker 1: both the Headway Division as well as the UFC is

1923
01:34:43,960 --> 01:34:45,160
Speaker 1: sort of control of it all.

1924
01:34:45,640 --> 01:34:47,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think the only answer to hear

1925
01:34:47,560 --> 01:34:50,000
Speaker 2: is which light heavyweights can bulk up and move up?

1926
01:34:50,040 --> 01:34:50,240
Speaker 1: Here?

1927
01:34:50,800 --> 01:34:54,400
Speaker 2: You know that's where we're at. I really wish there's

1928
01:34:54,439 --> 01:34:56,880
Speaker 2: a lot happening with TKO Global. We know this, right,

1929
01:34:56,920 --> 01:34:59,800
Speaker 2: They've taken over pro wrestling, mixed martial arts, and now

1930
01:34:59,800 --> 01:35:02,320
Speaker 2: we here the not the rumors we hear them talking

1931
01:35:02,320 --> 01:35:05,120
Speaker 2: on the sales, call this idea that they're gonna partner

1932
01:35:05,120 --> 01:35:07,839
Speaker 2: with Turkey, put out a boxing Prospect league and handle

1933
01:35:07,880 --> 01:35:10,840
Speaker 2: big pay per views a couple of year. I really

1934
01:35:10,880 --> 01:35:13,920
Speaker 2: wish the powers that be would look at this in

1935
01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:18,200
Speaker 2: a non Dana holding grudge type of way, and just say,

1936
01:35:18,640 --> 01:35:21,360
Speaker 2: look at the money we can make by by potentially

1937
01:35:21,360 --> 01:35:23,639
Speaker 2: bringing Francis back. Now, look, I know he's under contract

1938
01:35:23,680 --> 01:35:27,800
Speaker 2: right now, but like, whether it's co promotion, whether it's

1939
01:35:27,840 --> 01:35:31,040
Speaker 2: signing him, I agree with you. What an egregious turn

1940
01:35:31,120 --> 01:35:32,800
Speaker 2: to just be like, oh, that guy doesn't want it.

1941
01:35:32,960 --> 01:35:34,720
Speaker 2: F him, We'll never talk about him or show him

1942
01:35:34,720 --> 01:35:37,800
Speaker 2: again on camera, Like yeah, all right, great, Uh let's

1943
01:35:37,800 --> 01:35:42,479
Speaker 2: go to question number two from j D. Roseman. His

1944
01:35:42,640 --> 01:35:45,920
Speaker 2: maiden name, by the way, is Von Yeah, von Amsterdam,

1945
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:48,519
Speaker 2: by the way, he says, that's it's Jake, our guy,

1946
01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:52,639
Speaker 2: our documentarian. He says, BC, did you get a good

1947
01:35:52,720 --> 01:35:56,240
Speaker 2: smell of any fighter during the post fight interview? Who

1948
01:35:56,320 --> 01:36:01,720
Speaker 2: smelled the best? If so? Always curious, I did not,

1949
01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:06,160
Speaker 2: necessarily to answer your question, Jake, get any bad smells,

1950
01:36:06,280 --> 01:36:09,479
Speaker 2: But while I am in my suit, it is interesting

1951
01:36:09,520 --> 01:36:11,560
Speaker 2: as soon as the fight ends, right, I'm in the

1952
01:36:11,640 --> 01:36:14,679
Speaker 2: ring ready to jump in an interview, oftentimes not knowing

1953
01:36:14,720 --> 01:36:18,080
Speaker 2: the result. Although I did peep over Jimmy Lennon's shoulder

1954
01:36:18,080 --> 01:36:20,080
Speaker 2: as he was walking into the ring and I saw

1955
01:36:20,120 --> 01:36:21,240
Speaker 2: that it was going to be a draw, and I

1956
01:36:21,320 --> 01:36:24,439
Speaker 2: was just like oh my God, like holy crap. And

1957
01:36:24,479 --> 01:36:27,719
Speaker 2: then what happens is usually like the the sanctioning bodies

1958
01:36:27,720 --> 01:36:29,680
Speaker 2: and the team they're trying to take pictures and in

1959
01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:32,080
Speaker 2: my ear, they're like, get in there, it's interview time.

1960
01:36:32,120 --> 01:36:33,920
Speaker 2: So I got to push people around, and I end

1961
01:36:34,040 --> 01:36:36,200
Speaker 2: up putting my arms around the fighters and pushing them

1962
01:36:36,200 --> 01:36:39,320
Speaker 2: into me, and that stains my suit full of blood

1963
01:36:39,360 --> 01:36:41,680
Speaker 2: and sweat. Luke, It's part of the job. But who

1964
01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:46,240
Speaker 2: smelled best this weekend? Not worst? Is Joe Goosen? Dude,

1965
01:36:46,320 --> 01:36:50,120
Speaker 2: Joe Goosen, who we already know, great guy, Hall of Fame, trainer,

1966
01:36:51,080 --> 01:36:55,160
Speaker 2: pretty damn great broadcaster throughout his career, the best dresser

1967
01:36:55,200 --> 01:36:58,320
Speaker 2: in all of boxing. Dude, when he walks in a building,

1968
01:36:58,400 --> 01:37:01,720
Speaker 2: you can smell that cologne know he's coming. There. Ain't

1969
01:37:01,760 --> 01:37:03,400
Speaker 2: nobody like Joe Goosen. I had a great time with

1970
01:37:03,479 --> 01:37:05,720
Speaker 2: him this weekend by the way, hanging out. But uh no,

1971
01:37:05,760 --> 01:37:09,719
Speaker 2: I didn't, necessarily, Jake, smell anybody awful and have to report.

1972
01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:12,120
Speaker 2: But uh, Luke, I'm sure while you were watching the

1973
01:37:12,120 --> 01:37:15,479
Speaker 2: fights in live streaming, your office smelled like a you know,

1974
01:37:15,760 --> 01:37:20,280
Speaker 2: like a sewage. Uh buttole, yeah, absolutely, there you go.

1975
01:37:20,360 --> 01:37:22,400
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. All right. Our next question comes

1976
01:37:22,439 --> 01:37:25,240
Speaker 2: from a regular in these parts. They call him Flannels

1977
01:37:25,240 --> 01:37:27,639
Speaker 2: and JITs, and he says, how excited are you guys

1978
01:37:28,160 --> 01:37:31,120
Speaker 2: for CJI two? That, of course is the Craig Jones

1979
01:37:31,120 --> 01:37:34,479
Speaker 2: Grappling Invitational, And Luke, will you do a watch along

1980
01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:34,840
Speaker 2: for it?

1981
01:37:34,840 --> 01:37:36,320
Speaker 1: I'd say, what, I would love to go to it.

1982
01:37:36,479 --> 01:37:38,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if that's possible with my schedule,

1983
01:37:38,320 --> 01:37:40,360
Speaker 1: my fam, I don't have no I have no idea,

1984
01:37:40,439 --> 01:37:41,040
Speaker 1: but I would.

1985
01:37:40,920 --> 01:37:43,160
Speaker 2: Love you to work at it as a broadcaster.

1986
01:37:43,400 --> 01:37:44,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't think that's in the cars, but I

1987
01:37:44,680 --> 01:37:47,200
Speaker 1: appreciate that. But nevertheless, either way, either way, I would

1988
01:37:47,240 --> 01:37:49,639
Speaker 1: freaking love to go to it. I think it's gonna

1989
01:37:49,640 --> 01:37:51,960
Speaker 1: be the same thing Thomas and Max center again out

1990
01:37:52,000 --> 01:37:54,280
Speaker 1: in Las Vegas, and of course no ADCC this year,

1991
01:37:54,360 --> 01:37:58,320
Speaker 1: so they've got free reign and I've been following Craig's journey.

1992
01:37:58,320 --> 01:38:03,120
Speaker 1: He's back in Austin this week actually, and so I mean,

1993
01:38:03,200 --> 01:38:05,880
Speaker 1: at a bare minimum, I'll have some live coverage of it,

1994
01:38:06,360 --> 01:38:08,439
Speaker 1: But what I really want is to go. I want

1995
01:38:08,439 --> 01:38:09,439
Speaker 1: to go. Yeah.

1996
01:38:10,400 --> 01:38:15,439
Speaker 2: Great question here from Stick's Playtime. Louke, what are your

1997
01:38:15,560 --> 01:38:18,080
Speaker 2: favorite movies to watch while deep in row eight.

1998
01:38:19,680 --> 01:38:25,840
Speaker 1: That's such a great question. That's a great question. You

1999
01:38:25,920 --> 01:38:28,479
Speaker 1: know what I'm gonna say this. I think the best

2000
01:38:28,520 --> 01:38:31,960
Speaker 1: movies to watch if you're high are movies that you

2001
01:38:32,160 --> 01:38:35,080
Speaker 1: love but have seen a million times, you know what

2002
01:38:35,120 --> 01:38:38,479
Speaker 1: I mean. Like, I can't do new stuff when I'm high,

2003
01:38:38,479 --> 01:38:40,360
Speaker 1: because all of a sudden I forget it. I can't

2004
01:38:40,360 --> 01:38:43,439
Speaker 1: remember what's going on. But the old stuff it hits

2005
01:38:43,520 --> 01:38:46,280
Speaker 1: and then you just feel it, like that old memory come,

2006
01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:48,840
Speaker 1: whatever it is, that old feeling comes flooding back. I

2007
01:38:48,880 --> 01:38:50,760
Speaker 1: think that's the move. I don't know. Maybe you have

2008
01:38:50,760 --> 01:38:51,360
Speaker 1: a different view.

2009
01:38:51,439 --> 01:38:52,880
Speaker 2: No, I agree with you. I mean, I'm gonna I'm

2010
01:38:52,880 --> 01:38:57,599
Speaker 2: gonna play the hits, Half Baked, Tommy Boy, the First,

2011
01:38:57,640 --> 01:39:02,240
Speaker 2: Harold and Kumar, here's a here a Days of Confused,

2012
01:39:02,800 --> 01:39:04,280
Speaker 2: and here's a left field what. I don't know if

2013
01:39:04,280 --> 01:39:06,240
Speaker 2: you remember it with Alec Baldwin and he didn't shoot

2014
01:39:06,280 --> 01:39:09,439
Speaker 2: anybody in this movie Outside Providence? Do you remember that

2015
01:39:09,439 --> 01:39:11,040
Speaker 2: that stoner flick from the late nineties.

2016
01:39:11,200 --> 01:39:14,599
Speaker 1: I don't know, all right, you see, have you ever

2017
01:39:14,600 --> 01:39:16,439
Speaker 1: seen the movie Glen Garry Glenn Ross?

2018
01:39:16,560 --> 01:39:17,040
Speaker 2: I have not.

2019
01:39:18,640 --> 01:39:21,640
Speaker 1: Holy shit, holy shit, we gotta watch that one too.

2020
01:39:21,840 --> 01:39:24,320
Speaker 1: It's on Broadway right now with like Bill Burr and

2021
01:39:24,600 --> 01:39:26,439
Speaker 1: uh yeah, have you seen the movie though?

2022
01:39:26,840 --> 01:39:29,680
Speaker 3: No, But I actually just did a job last week

2023
01:39:29,720 --> 01:39:31,519
Speaker 3: and they were referencing it a shipload and I had

2024
01:39:31,520 --> 01:39:32,719
Speaker 3: no idea what they were talking about.

2025
01:39:34,040 --> 01:39:35,840
Speaker 1: Look at me. Put the camera on me for a second.

2026
01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:41,840
Speaker 1: Oh wow, wow, camera ready. Coffee is for closers. There

2027
01:39:41,880 --> 01:39:44,760
Speaker 1: you go, that's mine. That's why Glenn Garry Glenn Ross impression.

2028
01:39:44,439 --> 01:39:47,080
Speaker 2: Right apparently, Luke, are you gonna.

2029
01:39:47,240 --> 01:39:49,280
Speaker 1: Know I have ever since I've had my lung issue,

2030
01:39:49,439 --> 01:39:50,839
Speaker 1: I haven't vaped in months.

2031
01:39:50,880 --> 01:39:53,679
Speaker 2: Nothing about energy drinks because those will kill you too, Luke.

2032
01:39:54,439 --> 01:39:56,920
Speaker 1: Okay, you don't know what you're talking about with energy drinks.

2033
01:39:57,000 --> 01:39:59,479
Speaker 1: I think it's only a problem if you get the

2034
01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:02,080
Speaker 1: energy drin with the three hundred milligrams of caffeine. And

2035
01:40:02,120 --> 01:40:04,000
Speaker 1: I have dialed all of those back. All of the

2036
01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:06,360
Speaker 1: ones I have are two hundred or less, which is

2037
01:40:06,360 --> 01:40:08,479
Speaker 1: basically two cups of coffee and a little bit of change.

2038
01:40:08,520 --> 01:40:10,040
Speaker 1: Not that much, all.

2039
01:40:10,040 --> 01:40:14,080
Speaker 2: Right, Our our you know, our protector, the backbone of

2040
01:40:14,120 --> 01:40:16,680
Speaker 2: this operation. Our producer, Matt Snyder says, great movie on

2041
01:40:16,720 --> 01:40:18,320
Speaker 2: the Glengarry Glenn Ross.

2042
01:40:18,120 --> 01:40:21,320
Speaker 1: Ro It's fucking incredible. It's very good, all right.

2043
01:40:21,360 --> 01:40:23,120
Speaker 2: I'm not that cultured, Luke, so I fit in a

2044
01:40:23,160 --> 01:40:23,720
Speaker 2: certain need.

2045
01:40:23,800 --> 01:40:25,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, you know what though, You would like

2046
01:40:25,479 --> 01:40:27,559
Speaker 1: it though, because there's a scene where Alec Baldwin goes

2047
01:40:27,560 --> 01:40:30,720
Speaker 1: in there and starts fucking bossing these douchebags around, and

2048
01:40:30,760 --> 01:40:33,360
Speaker 1: it's incredible to watch.

2049
01:40:33,520 --> 01:40:35,519
Speaker 2: Do you remember when we flew back from the London

2050
01:40:35,600 --> 01:40:39,200
Speaker 2: Live show in Saul from Chasing Status gave us those gimmicks, Luke,

2051
01:40:39,240 --> 01:40:41,559
Speaker 2: those fantastic gimmicks. Remember that?

2052
01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:44,439
Speaker 1: What do you? Oh? Yes, yes, yes I do. He

2053
01:40:44,520 --> 01:40:45,880
Speaker 1: reached out to me recently, by the way, he.

2054
01:40:47,560 --> 01:40:50,519
Speaker 2: Gifted us the greatest a throw gift you could and

2055
01:40:50,560 --> 01:40:53,040
Speaker 2: I had a fly from London to Dallas direct to

2056
01:40:53,080 --> 01:40:55,240
Speaker 2: work on that showtime card. I watched the first Harold

2057
01:40:55,280 --> 01:40:56,880
Speaker 2: and Kumar for like the first time in like ten

2058
01:40:57,000 --> 01:40:59,320
Speaker 2: years and was like dripping crying.

2059
01:40:59,360 --> 01:41:01,919
Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, can I can I make a confession? Yeah,

2060
01:41:02,000 --> 01:41:04,599
Speaker 1: I've never seen Harold and Komore. Oh my god, dude,

2061
01:41:04,600 --> 01:41:06,519
Speaker 1: it's my fucking up, a fucking up.

2062
01:41:06,560 --> 01:41:08,920
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's a it's a goofball Stoner movie,

2063
01:41:08,920 --> 01:41:11,439
Speaker 2: but it's it's legendary in my opinion. But ok, all right,

2064
01:41:12,760 --> 01:41:15,160
Speaker 2: Snyder says, that's peak Pacino. By the way, is he

2065
01:41:15,200 --> 01:41:16,559
Speaker 2: in Glengary Glenn Ross?

2066
01:41:16,640 --> 01:41:19,680
Speaker 1: Yeah? Not only is he in it, he is insanely

2067
01:41:19,800 --> 01:41:21,639
Speaker 1: good in it. Likener says it.

2068
01:41:21,600 --> 01:41:23,840
Speaker 2: Up there with his performance Incent of a woman, which

2069
01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:24,040
Speaker 2: he is.

2070
01:41:24,439 --> 01:41:26,240
Speaker 1: He's telling the truth. He's telling the truth.

2071
01:41:26,360 --> 01:41:29,360
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, all right, here we go, let's keep it going. Here,

2072
01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:32,960
Speaker 2: we have one more. This is from Elvis Underscore NNG.

2073
01:41:33,880 --> 01:41:39,360
Speaker 2: Can we get BC's current MMA strawweight rankings? Do you

2074
01:41:39,400 --> 01:41:42,160
Speaker 2: need the uh we're talking fighting ability or we talking

2075
01:41:42,240 --> 01:41:44,639
Speaker 2: Patreon show? What are we doing here? Luke? Hey?

2076
01:41:46,120 --> 01:41:48,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, hold, I want to send this in the chat.

2077
01:41:48,400 --> 01:41:49,719
Speaker 1: I don't know if we have time for it later,

2078
01:41:49,720 --> 01:41:52,759
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna send this to everyone later for later.

2079
01:41:53,040 --> 01:41:58,240
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, yeah, So, I mean, what do they want

2080
01:41:58,280 --> 01:42:04,680
Speaker 2: me to say, Luke? What do they want me to say?

2081
01:42:04,920 --> 01:42:07,880
Speaker 2: Thank you? Thank you. I'll update my rankings for this

2082
01:42:07,920 --> 01:42:11,160
Speaker 2: week's Brian Campbell ramble chat. So check that out. Thank

2083
01:42:11,200 --> 01:42:13,600
Speaker 2: you very much. So that is DMS from Donks and

2084
01:42:13,600 --> 01:42:17,280
Speaker 2: a reminder to reach the show Morning Combat at gmail

2085
01:42:17,560 --> 01:42:21,479
Speaker 2: dot com for dead wrongs for fan subs and we

2086
01:42:21,520 --> 01:42:24,080
Speaker 2: are trying to make fan subs great again. So it's

2087
01:42:24,160 --> 01:42:24,800
Speaker 2: up to you guys.

2088
01:42:24,960 --> 01:42:25,080
Speaker 4: Uh.

2089
01:42:25,640 --> 01:42:28,280
Speaker 2: I believe before we get into the ship Long Island,

2090
01:42:28,320 --> 01:42:30,320
Speaker 2: Luke has done a solid and he's grabbed the photo

2091
01:42:30,360 --> 01:42:33,040
Speaker 2: of Christian de Guero that we're talking about here Long Alan.

2092
01:42:33,080 --> 01:42:34,519
Speaker 2: Can you can you pump that out there?

2093
01:42:34,720 --> 01:42:34,960
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2094
01:42:35,400 --> 01:42:37,439
Speaker 2: Those were the trunks first of all, shout out to

2095
01:42:37,520 --> 01:42:42,080
Speaker 2: Parking Pros, his ass sponsor. But Luke, we got the dick. Okay,

2096
01:42:42,320 --> 01:42:43,759
Speaker 2: all right, so that's.

2097
01:42:43,600 --> 01:42:46,200
Speaker 1: That's the that's the motto of Morning Combat. We got

2098
01:42:46,200 --> 01:42:46,599
Speaker 1: the dick.

2099
01:42:46,960 --> 01:42:50,639
Speaker 2: We definitely do. Thank you Christian de Gero for always

2100
01:42:50,680 --> 01:42:53,760
Speaker 2: wrapping us, whether you're training with Tony Ferguson while wearing

2101
01:42:53,760 --> 01:42:56,759
Speaker 2: an MK shirt or just live in your life. Okay, brother,

2102
01:42:56,760 --> 01:42:58,760
Speaker 2: I hope you enjoyed. Uh. I think he went out

2103
01:42:58,760 --> 01:43:02,280
Speaker 2: for fast food afterwards, you know, a long camp, Luke. Right, Look,

2104
01:43:02,280 --> 01:43:04,120
Speaker 2: do you have a favorite fast food? Is there one

2105
01:43:04,160 --> 01:43:06,280
Speaker 2: fast food that that is the king in your eyes?

2106
01:43:06,600 --> 01:43:11,559
Speaker 1: Taco bell? Taco bell when it's time, when it's time

2107
01:43:11,640 --> 01:43:13,920
Speaker 1: to go for the bell, your buddy makes that move.

2108
01:43:13,960 --> 01:43:15,599
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you know, if we just five guys

2109
01:43:15,640 --> 01:43:17,840
Speaker 1: in and out all that stuff, but Taco bell.

2110
01:43:17,920 --> 01:43:19,640
Speaker 2: Look, should you perish before me?

2111
01:43:20,800 --> 01:43:22,880
Speaker 1: And should there be, which is an inevitability.

2112
01:43:23,160 --> 01:43:25,280
Speaker 2: And should there be a you know, a ceremony where

2113
01:43:25,280 --> 01:43:28,360
Speaker 2: people get up and give speeches about how great you were,

2114
01:43:28,439 --> 01:43:33,040
Speaker 2: I will instantly recall my favorite times with you where

2115
01:43:33,040 --> 01:43:34,519
Speaker 2: you're like, yo, b sit, you want some taco bell,

2116
01:43:34,560 --> 01:43:35,720
Speaker 2: and I'm like, well, I kind of just state up

2117
01:43:35,720 --> 01:43:37,040
Speaker 2: my store. You're like, no, no, you're gonna need some

2118
01:43:37,080 --> 01:43:39,000
Speaker 2: taco bell. I'm gonna get some. Hold on, hold on,

2119
01:43:39,240 --> 01:43:42,639
Speaker 2: And then seventy nine dollars later, we have every item

2120
01:43:42,720 --> 01:43:46,000
Speaker 2: on the menu. As we're filming an old school RSD.

2121
01:43:46,160 --> 01:43:48,000
Speaker 1: I mean to end the time I've told the story.

2122
01:43:48,040 --> 01:43:50,719
Speaker 1: After I did Rogan Show in October of twenty twenty,

2123
01:43:50,760 --> 01:43:52,479
Speaker 1: I crawl because it was in the It was in

2124
01:43:52,600 --> 01:43:55,200
Speaker 1: like it was I forget. We recorded it like noon

2125
01:43:55,320 --> 01:43:57,960
Speaker 1: or something. So it was done at like three three

2126
01:43:58,040 --> 01:44:00,799
Speaker 1: thirty four, and I walked outside. It was still daylight,

2127
01:44:00,840 --> 01:44:03,200
Speaker 1: and my hotel was just across like not far, it

2128
01:44:03,240 --> 01:44:04,920
Speaker 1: was it was walkable. So I walked back to the

2129
01:44:04,920 --> 01:44:07,600
Speaker 1: hotel and I was kind of coming down from the

2130
01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:11,240
Speaker 1: experience and I ordered I think, like seventy dollars of

2131
01:44:11,280 --> 01:44:15,880
Speaker 1: taco bell, like any like the fattest amount of fat

2132
01:44:15,960 --> 01:44:18,840
Speaker 1: guy has ever ordered from there. I didn't need all

2133
01:44:18,840 --> 01:44:20,560
Speaker 1: of it because there's no way I could, but I

2134
01:44:20,640 --> 01:44:21,519
Speaker 1: definitely indulged.

2135
01:44:21,920 --> 01:44:24,280
Speaker 2: All right, all right, great stuff. It's time for our

2136
01:44:24,280 --> 01:44:26,320
Speaker 2: final segment, folks, unless Luke, you want to run that

2137
01:44:26,360 --> 01:44:27,320
Speaker 2: thing that you put in there?

2138
01:44:27,479 --> 01:44:27,679
Speaker 1: Now?

2139
01:44:27,800 --> 01:44:30,559
Speaker 2: Do you want to? Oh?

2140
01:44:30,880 --> 01:44:31,000
Speaker 5: Uh?

2141
01:44:31,280 --> 01:44:33,920
Speaker 1: No, I want Uh? I don't know if we well,

2142
01:44:34,000 --> 01:44:34,880
Speaker 1: let's wait, let's wait.

2143
01:44:35,040 --> 01:44:37,120
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't have ready.

2144
01:44:37,360 --> 01:44:37,679
Speaker 1: Sorry.

2145
01:44:37,800 --> 01:44:40,639
Speaker 2: I scoured the globe every Sunday to find viral videos

2146
01:44:40,640 --> 01:44:43,720
Speaker 2: that will make Luke Thomas emo. This one's called have

2147
01:44:43,840 --> 01:44:55,800
Speaker 2: you seen this shit? Now? Look the great Hua by

2148
01:44:55,800 --> 01:44:58,679
Speaker 2: the way, the great Otel Burbridge even texted me last

2149
01:44:58,720 --> 01:45:01,720
Speaker 2: week that, uh that scene I showed at the end

2150
01:45:01,760 --> 01:45:05,400
Speaker 2: with the guy shooting himself to explosive Joseph A Bank

2151
01:45:05,520 --> 01:45:07,160
Speaker 2: levels that was too far, he says.

2152
01:45:07,680 --> 01:45:10,759
Speaker 1: Let me. Let me also say this. They're they're beating

2153
01:45:10,840 --> 01:45:14,280
Speaker 1: our ass with this segment, where like half the shows

2154
01:45:14,280 --> 01:45:17,719
Speaker 1: we do were getting shut down because of the nature

2155
01:45:17,760 --> 01:45:20,840
Speaker 1: of how YouTube just polices copyright at this point, So

2156
01:45:21,040 --> 01:45:23,880
Speaker 1: have we done our due diligence to avoid that today?

2157
01:45:24,120 --> 01:45:26,760
Speaker 2: Yes, yes we have. We'll only get fired due to

2158
01:45:26,840 --> 01:45:27,759
Speaker 2: indecency today.

2159
01:45:27,880 --> 01:45:29,880
Speaker 1: Okay, very good, very good.

2160
01:45:29,880 --> 01:45:32,080
Speaker 2: All right, Look, this first clip gives new meaning to

2161
01:45:32,120 --> 01:45:47,960
Speaker 2: the term run to daylight. What sounded like stone cold

2162
01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:49,360
Speaker 2: just entered the building right there?

2163
01:45:49,439 --> 01:45:49,719
Speaker 4: Wow?

2164
01:45:49,840 --> 01:45:52,439
Speaker 2: That was that was something here, Luke, you know what

2165
01:45:52,439 --> 01:45:55,439
Speaker 2: we do on this I mean we've accidentally shown what

2166
01:45:55,520 --> 01:45:57,519
Speaker 2: was it, up to three deaths on this segment in

2167
01:45:57,560 --> 01:46:00,559
Speaker 2: the history including yeah, right, give or take that circus

2168
01:46:00,560 --> 01:46:03,559
Speaker 2: performer new segment alert called faces of Death. Let's bring

2169
01:46:03,600 --> 01:46:07,320
Speaker 2: it back. First, we got dancers. I just need you

2170
01:46:07,360 --> 01:46:11,080
Speaker 2: to tell me if they died or not, Luke. So

2171
01:46:11,120 --> 01:46:12,679
Speaker 2: they're performing, it's going great.

2172
01:46:13,880 --> 01:46:15,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, they look like they're all having a good time.

2173
01:46:15,880 --> 01:46:18,559
Speaker 2: Nice dance troop. I think they call it right here.

2174
01:46:19,840 --> 01:46:22,679
Speaker 1: Okay, well we just watched the death of fifteen people.

2175
01:46:22,800 --> 01:46:23,880
Speaker 1: All right, that's a nice show.

2176
01:46:23,920 --> 01:46:26,400
Speaker 2: Let's add them to our ar What do they call

2177
01:46:26,439 --> 01:46:29,000
Speaker 2: that body count? Look? Is that what they call that? Okay?

2178
01:46:29,040 --> 01:46:30,879
Speaker 1: All right, okay, all right.

2179
01:46:31,000 --> 01:46:33,360
Speaker 2: Now it's time for your deep dive of the week.

2180
01:46:33,640 --> 01:46:35,200
Speaker 2: Tell me if you think this person perished?

2181
01:46:38,280 --> 01:46:43,200
Speaker 1: Okay, well that's not that's a thing that BC Was

2182
01:46:43,200 --> 01:46:45,439
Speaker 1: that you in high school? What was that? No?

2183
01:46:45,439 --> 01:46:48,559
Speaker 2: No? Is that a Bess fishing store? You ever go

2184
01:46:48,640 --> 01:46:50,599
Speaker 2: to there? Look, there's best pro shops. There's a lot

2185
01:46:50,600 --> 01:46:51,439
Speaker 2: of weird things in there.

2186
01:46:51,479 --> 01:46:53,639
Speaker 1: Like I have never been to a bass pro shops.

2187
01:46:53,640 --> 01:46:56,360
Speaker 1: I've been. I've been to a million gun ranges and stores.

2188
01:46:56,360 --> 01:46:58,000
Speaker 1: I've never been to a bass pro shops.

2189
01:46:58,000 --> 01:46:59,840
Speaker 2: Our final face is a death clip goes out to

2190
01:46:59,880 --> 01:47:05,760
Speaker 2: the golf course. Watch this, luke, four yep four?

2191
01:47:06,760 --> 01:47:09,120
Speaker 1: All right, let's see what happens here more.

2192
01:47:08,960 --> 01:47:09,400
Speaker 2: Like for.

2193
01:47:11,720 --> 01:47:15,760
Speaker 1: You old ass bit wow k one. Yeah, don't you

2194
01:47:15,800 --> 01:47:16,720
Speaker 1: go dying on me.

2195
01:47:17,600 --> 01:47:20,479
Speaker 2: Look you remember when fan man interrupted bow holy Field too?

2196
01:47:20,600 --> 01:47:20,760
Speaker 8: Right?

2197
01:47:21,040 --> 01:47:22,879
Speaker 1: Oh buddy boxing at its finest.

2198
01:47:23,120 --> 01:47:39,040
Speaker 2: Watch this who brought the dick? Right? Look? Yeah, who

2199
01:47:39,040 --> 01:47:42,360
Speaker 2: brought the dick? Luke? What is the soccer team called

2200
01:47:42,479 --> 01:47:45,240
Speaker 2: mill Wall? Is that like low level English League?

2201
01:47:45,479 --> 01:47:46,120
Speaker 1: I don't watch that.

2202
01:47:48,120 --> 01:47:50,840
Speaker 2: You know how soccer stadiums have in the UK have

2203
01:47:50,880 --> 01:47:52,920
Speaker 2: their own fan section separated. I'm sure they have South

2204
01:47:52,920 --> 01:47:56,120
Speaker 2: America too. This one drunk fan from at the mill

2205
01:47:56,160 --> 01:47:57,800
Speaker 2: Wall game entered the.

2206
01:47:57,760 --> 01:48:04,280
Speaker 1: Opposing He's gonna get fucking dummolished and uh they're gonna

2207
01:48:04,320 --> 01:48:05,679
Speaker 1: beat him to death.

2208
01:48:06,479 --> 01:48:11,160
Speaker 2: Let's see death of this, of this, of this You lasted.

2209
01:48:10,760 --> 01:48:13,559
Speaker 1: Two strikes before they jumped your bitch ass.

2210
01:48:13,880 --> 01:48:15,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was like me after the junior problem.

2211
01:48:15,960 --> 01:48:20,720
Speaker 1: Look right, this is BC to his nutsack after the

2212
01:48:20,760 --> 01:48:21,639
Speaker 1: event on.

2213
01:48:21,560 --> 01:48:23,120
Speaker 6: Saturday is wild?

2214
01:48:23,720 --> 01:48:24,040
Speaker 1: All right?

2215
01:48:24,120 --> 01:48:27,240
Speaker 2: Time for your shirts of the week. Uh look, this

2216
01:48:27,320 --> 01:48:29,519
Speaker 2: one probably be caught on you at one point. Right.

2217
01:48:29,640 --> 01:48:32,960
Speaker 1: Everything I love is illegal, expensive or Latino. Yes, that is,

2218
01:48:33,000 --> 01:48:35,800
Speaker 1: in fact the way in which I have lived my life.

2219
01:48:35,880 --> 01:48:38,640
Speaker 2: Yes, Luke, you never see a happy couple. They end

2220
01:48:38,720 --> 01:48:40,880
Speaker 2: up buying like matching shirts. You know what I mean,

2221
01:48:41,000 --> 01:48:41,760
Speaker 2: Like Disney World.

2222
01:48:41,800 --> 01:48:42,599
Speaker 1: I see a lot of those.

2223
01:48:42,760 --> 01:48:44,719
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, you ever seen this family at a Phillies

2224
01:48:44,760 --> 01:48:45,360
Speaker 2: game before?

2225
01:48:46,640 --> 01:48:55,519
Speaker 1: Come in peace, dude, she was in on the bit.

2226
01:48:55,840 --> 01:48:56,840
Speaker 1: I give credit to her.

2227
01:48:58,280 --> 01:49:02,080
Speaker 2: He was in look deep in. There's no question about

2228
01:49:03,240 --> 01:49:05,720
Speaker 2: shout out to your Super Bowl champion Eagles. But you

2229
01:49:05,760 --> 01:49:08,720
Speaker 2: can find some jerseys on the discount rack of ex players, Luke.

2230
01:49:09,920 --> 01:49:14,560
Speaker 1: What they got like Melvin Aguilar here? Uh no, my

2231
01:49:15,560 --> 01:49:17,400
Speaker 1: favorite Italian player? You know what I'm saying.

2232
01:49:17,520 --> 01:49:21,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, definitely all right, great gift ideas for Luke

2233
01:49:21,120 --> 01:49:22,960
Speaker 2: for the holidays. If anybody's watching.

2234
01:49:23,840 --> 01:49:26,000
Speaker 1: We fucking on the Cannibal course. Bet to know so,

2235
01:49:26,160 --> 01:49:29,360
Speaker 1: I've got that on a shirt and socks. All I

2236
01:49:29,400 --> 01:49:32,560
Speaker 1: need now is the is the is the uh? Is

2237
01:49:32,640 --> 01:49:33,639
Speaker 1: this ship? Yeah?

2238
01:49:33,680 --> 01:49:36,920
Speaker 2: That's gross, Luke. Can you rate this gentleman's form when

2239
01:49:36,920 --> 01:49:37,880
Speaker 2: it comes to weightlifting?

2240
01:49:42,400 --> 01:49:49,160
Speaker 1: Those are some big ass dicks, very erect for me. Yes, yes, yeah,

2241
01:49:49,560 --> 01:49:51,840
Speaker 1: he's on an earthquake bar. Well, I'll look at the

2242
01:49:51,880 --> 01:49:56,240
Speaker 1: hogs just hanging buddy. I mean, wow, that is dude.

2243
01:49:56,439 --> 01:49:59,000
Speaker 1: How would you even buy dis like that? I don't

2244
01:49:59,040 --> 01:50:02,519
Speaker 1: even know. It's like we've got the monster trucks of

2245
01:50:02,600 --> 01:50:05,080
Speaker 1: dicks like, I don't even where where do you get that?

2246
01:50:05,200 --> 01:50:06,280
Speaker 1: Where does that thing?

2247
01:50:06,479 --> 01:50:09,400
Speaker 2: I got to ask Big keV to find out where?

2248
01:50:09,680 --> 01:50:12,920
Speaker 2: You know your boy over there? Let's go. Hey, Dustin

2249
01:50:13,000 --> 01:50:15,839
Speaker 2: Poier showed up in a comedy show and they roasted

2250
01:50:15,840 --> 01:50:19,000
Speaker 2: the ship out of him.

2251
01:50:19,960 --> 01:50:21,160
Speaker 1: Go, I want to bite you.

2252
01:50:21,320 --> 01:50:25,280
Speaker 6: Actually, I stay to you, bro. I know how to

2253
01:50:25,280 --> 01:50:25,840
Speaker 6: take you down.

2254
01:50:25,880 --> 01:50:26,040
Speaker 2: Bro.

2255
01:50:26,760 --> 01:50:28,400
Speaker 6: All I gotta do is get behind the title.

2256
01:50:28,439 --> 01:50:29,200
Speaker 1: You'll never reach me.

2257
01:50:39,080 --> 01:50:47,840
Speaker 2: Wow ten seven right there on? That is uh.

2258
01:50:48,720 --> 01:50:50,559
Speaker 1: I give them credit. They went for it. That's how

2259
01:50:50,560 --> 01:50:51,000
Speaker 1: you do it.

2260
01:50:51,280 --> 01:50:53,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I forgot what this video is. All

2261
01:50:53,720 --> 01:50:56,160
Speaker 2: I wrote down is I can't stop. Let's see what happens.

2262
01:50:58,120 --> 01:51:01,360
Speaker 1: Tired, I cannot stop.

2263
01:51:01,400 --> 01:51:03,200
Speaker 2: I cannot stop.

2264
01:51:04,400 --> 01:51:06,479
Speaker 1: Sorry, but not stop? My god?

2265
01:51:06,560 --> 01:51:06,960
Speaker 4: You're right?

2266
01:51:10,400 --> 01:51:11,840
Speaker 2: I mean the guy couldn't stop you guys.

2267
01:51:11,840 --> 01:51:14,040
Speaker 1: That's how BC treats me when we're on the road

2268
01:51:14,080 --> 01:51:15,439
Speaker 1: and I'm like, hey, BC, do you want to go

2269
01:51:15,520 --> 01:51:18,920
Speaker 1: get dinner? His reaction was the same as that guy's

2270
01:51:18,960 --> 01:51:20,920
Speaker 1: reaction who got kissed. That's his reaction.

2271
01:51:21,439 --> 01:51:23,320
Speaker 2: Uh, Luke, let's see our haircut of the week. I

2272
01:51:23,360 --> 01:51:24,760
Speaker 2: don't know if you're into this. I don't know if

2273
01:51:24,760 --> 01:51:25,920
Speaker 2: your barber offers this the.

2274
01:51:25,880 --> 01:51:29,240
Speaker 1: Head did they come with executions? Send this person to

2275
01:51:29,280 --> 01:51:31,320
Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia and tell him he hates the government.

2276
01:51:32,120 --> 01:51:34,679
Speaker 2: Speaking of hoopers, Lucas, time to hit the hard word.

2277
01:51:34,960 --> 01:51:37,320
Speaker 2: Check out this pocket rocket guy. He's our hooper of

2278
01:51:37,360 --> 01:51:47,120
Speaker 2: the week. Watch this move, nice head fake. Wow, it's

2279
01:51:47,160 --> 01:51:49,639
Speaker 2: like he was tossing a football right right into the hoop.

2280
01:51:49,680 --> 01:51:50,880
Speaker 2: That was great.

2281
01:51:50,560 --> 01:51:53,280
Speaker 1: Which MMA journalists can I compare him to to make

2282
01:51:53,320 --> 01:51:57,360
Speaker 1: them feel sad?

2283
01:51:58,400 --> 01:52:00,920
Speaker 2: Mark ray Mundy, But he's an NFL journalists. Now.

2284
01:52:05,160 --> 01:52:08,280
Speaker 1: I like how Mark Ramundy had to fucking throw that

2285
01:52:08,320 --> 01:52:11,840
Speaker 1: thing like like a like a medieval you know, yeah,

2286
01:52:12,479 --> 01:52:13,759
Speaker 1: like a high a lie or something.

2287
01:52:14,160 --> 01:52:16,640
Speaker 2: Luke watched the ending of this youth basketball game. It

2288
01:52:16,640 --> 01:52:17,960
Speaker 2: doesn't get more heartbreaking than this.

2289
01:52:19,720 --> 01:52:23,800
Speaker 1: Oh, they stole it off the fucking inbound by Oh

2290
01:52:23,920 --> 01:52:25,720
Speaker 1: oh no, oh no, he's gonna throw it?

2291
01:52:25,760 --> 01:52:28,720
Speaker 2: Is it gonna go in on that?

2292
01:52:30,720 --> 01:52:32,639
Speaker 1: Dude? High schools full of stuff like that. That's great.

2293
01:52:32,840 --> 01:52:34,599
Speaker 2: H do you know what the regional I'm a macne

2294
01:52:34,680 --> 01:52:35,160
Speaker 2: is full of.

2295
01:52:37,240 --> 01:52:37,719
Speaker 1: Losers?

2296
01:52:38,200 --> 01:52:40,080
Speaker 2: Ridiculousness. Watch this sequence.

2297
01:52:42,320 --> 01:52:46,640
Speaker 1: Okay's getting walked down in Oh he ice the referee

2298
01:52:46,680 --> 01:52:48,000
Speaker 1: with the rolling thunder.

2299
01:52:48,320 --> 01:52:52,280
Speaker 2: Indeed, indeed can't be doing that, abag for not calling that.

2300
01:52:52,320 --> 01:52:55,000
Speaker 1: I poke Luke right, what could you be more out

2301
01:52:55,000 --> 01:53:01,160
Speaker 1: of position, referee? Jesus bah damn damn Luke.

2302
01:53:01,160 --> 01:53:03,120
Speaker 2: I don't know if you go to the arcades much anymore,

2303
01:53:03,160 --> 01:53:04,920
Speaker 2: but the games are like, really mature.

2304
01:53:08,960 --> 01:53:11,240
Speaker 1: I'd go if that's what they had in my arcade.

2305
01:53:11,960 --> 01:53:13,479
Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind losing that game.

2306
01:53:13,320 --> 01:53:15,679
Speaker 1: To be fair. Yeah, ah, you guys win again.

2307
01:53:17,800 --> 01:53:20,640
Speaker 2: Look you ever played double dutch as a kid with

2308
01:53:20,760 --> 01:53:21,240
Speaker 2: jump ropes?

2309
01:53:21,280 --> 01:53:22,160
Speaker 1: Were you into that? Yeah?

2310
01:53:22,600 --> 01:53:24,320
Speaker 2: That was big in the mid eighties.

2311
01:53:24,040 --> 01:53:26,240
Speaker 1: When I was a huge duck duck duck duck duck.

2312
01:53:26,280 --> 01:53:28,120
Speaker 2: But what happens if you don't have a jump rope?

2313
01:53:28,280 --> 01:53:32,840
Speaker 2: This village solved that problem.

2314
01:53:32,880 --> 01:53:41,479
Speaker 1: This seems unethical. I don't is is Bernie is Bernie alive.

2315
01:53:44,560 --> 01:53:47,479
Speaker 1: I am uncomfortable watching this. I have to tell you.

2316
01:53:47,600 --> 01:53:51,120
Speaker 1: This is and dude, they threw him like hass bulla

2317
01:53:51,720 --> 01:53:54,640
Speaker 1: fucking like he's yesterday's trash.

2318
01:53:55,160 --> 01:53:57,080
Speaker 2: Look, do you mess with feet much? You know what

2319
01:53:57,080 --> 01:53:58,040
Speaker 2: I meant.

2320
01:53:58,200 --> 01:53:59,559
Speaker 1: I just got a pedicure for the first.

2321
01:53:59,400 --> 01:54:01,200
Speaker 2: Time, That's true. I always felt it weird that they

2322
01:54:01,280 --> 01:54:03,200
Speaker 2: called the balls of your feet like it doesn't really

2323
01:54:03,240 --> 01:54:03,840
Speaker 2: make a lot of sense.

2324
01:54:03,880 --> 01:54:06,360
Speaker 8: Watch this video and then turn the foot to the

2325
01:54:06,400 --> 01:54:09,519
Speaker 8: outside and work the testicle area which is on the

2326
01:54:09,600 --> 01:54:13,360
Speaker 8: lateral side of the foot again, midway between the ankle

2327
01:54:13,400 --> 01:54:14,920
Speaker 8: bone and the tip of the heel.

2328
01:54:20,680 --> 01:54:25,000
Speaker 1: Execute both of them right now, both of them right now.

2329
01:54:25,080 --> 01:54:28,519
Speaker 1: Testicles of the foot is called the fucking heel. But okay,

2330
01:54:28,520 --> 01:54:29,400
Speaker 1: all right, that's fair.

2331
01:54:29,479 --> 01:54:31,640
Speaker 2: It's time to get flatulent. So we're gonna have some

2332
01:54:31,720 --> 01:54:35,200
Speaker 2: fun with this. Okay. Speaking of taco bell, have you

2333
01:54:35,240 --> 01:54:37,920
Speaker 2: ever have you ever had taco bell and then one

2334
01:54:38,040 --> 01:54:39,840
Speaker 2: at the end? Right, you know what I'm talking about.

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01:54:40,080 --> 01:54:44,000
Speaker 2: Watch what this guy did.

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01:54:43,120 --> 01:54:46,680
Speaker 1: When you combine all taco bell sauces into one master sauce.

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01:54:47,120 --> 01:54:49,320
Speaker 2: Dude, that's a devastation right there.

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01:54:49,400 --> 01:54:52,600
Speaker 1: Right That's that's for amateurs. I can have their hottest

2339
01:54:52,640 --> 01:54:54,680
Speaker 1: sauce and it does absolutely nothing to me.

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01:54:55,000 --> 01:54:57,640
Speaker 2: All right, maybe we had the wrong store. Maybe that

2341
01:54:57,720 --> 01:54:59,120
Speaker 2: was the Joseph A. Banks Posts.

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01:54:59,320 --> 01:55:02,400
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean I completely demolished that one.

2343
01:55:02,800 --> 01:55:05,400
Speaker 2: You ever get the samples at Costco? I've never seen

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01:55:05,440 --> 01:55:06,280
Speaker 2: this one offered.

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01:55:06,080 --> 01:55:06,520
Speaker 6: I have you.

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01:55:07,680 --> 01:55:10,520
Speaker 1: How are we supposed to sample this? Why is she

2347
01:55:10,640 --> 01:55:14,720
Speaker 1: wearing gloves? I might take that into the bathroom. Now

2348
01:55:14,760 --> 01:55:15,800
Speaker 1: I'm saying shit.

2349
01:55:16,480 --> 01:55:19,120
Speaker 2: Uh, you know you remember that movie Eat Pray Love.

2350
01:55:19,400 --> 01:55:20,440
Speaker 2: I think they're working on a song.

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01:55:20,520 --> 01:55:21,240
Speaker 1: Isn't it a book?

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01:55:21,600 --> 01:55:24,400
Speaker 2: Yeah? It was a book Connecticut based actually, but let's

2353
01:55:24,440 --> 01:55:24,880
Speaker 2: see it.

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01:55:25,880 --> 01:55:28,520
Speaker 1: Eat Shit and Die. You know what those are? Words?

2355
01:55:28,600 --> 01:55:31,520
Speaker 2: I live by the author of that book. By the way,

2356
01:55:31,960 --> 01:55:34,360
Speaker 2: I used to buy my Christmas trees from her parents

2357
01:55:34,400 --> 01:55:37,120
Speaker 2: at the house she grew up in in Litchfield, Connecticut.

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01:55:37,200 --> 01:55:40,280
Speaker 1: Randomly enough, I'm always thinking of the Joy Luck Club,

2359
01:55:40,320 --> 01:55:42,680
Speaker 1: which was Amy Tan who is the author of Eat

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01:55:42,680 --> 01:55:43,200
Speaker 1: Pray Love?

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01:55:44,000 --> 01:55:47,920
Speaker 2: Elizabeth something I think I don't remember Warren. I don't know,

2362
01:55:48,000 --> 01:55:48,560
Speaker 2: something like that.

2363
01:55:48,720 --> 01:55:49,640
Speaker 1: I could be a senator.

2364
01:55:50,720 --> 01:55:52,840
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Elizabeth Warren, the Senator. I don't know if

2365
01:55:52,880 --> 01:55:56,879
Speaker 2: she wrote that book too. Anyway, let's keep the toilet

2366
01:55:56,960 --> 01:55:59,320
Speaker 2: fun going. Luke, sometimes it can get rough in there.

2367
01:55:59,320 --> 01:56:02,840
Speaker 2: Have you thought about installing this in your house? Oh? Sorry, well, yeah, yeah,

2368
01:56:02,880 --> 01:56:03,440
Speaker 2: you might.

2369
01:56:03,360 --> 01:56:06,560
Speaker 1: Need to, dude. My home is the fart room.

2370
01:56:06,800 --> 01:56:09,880
Speaker 2: Oh got it. Well, you could try this in your

2371
01:56:09,920 --> 01:56:17,400
Speaker 2: actual bathroom. Let's keep the fun going. Those are for

2372
01:56:17,520 --> 01:56:19,400
Speaker 2: motor homes, by the way, Luke, But I could see

2373
01:56:19,440 --> 01:56:20,879
Speaker 2: you using that in your bathroom.

2374
01:56:20,960 --> 01:56:23,320
Speaker 1: Dude. I needed that at Joseph A. Beck. That's what

2375
01:56:23,480 --> 01:56:25,040
Speaker 1: I needed, and I didn't have any help.

2376
01:56:25,560 --> 01:56:25,680
Speaker 5: Uh.

2377
01:56:25,800 --> 01:56:27,280
Speaker 2: And if you really want to get big in the

2378
01:56:27,280 --> 01:56:29,920
Speaker 2: toilet game, you'll you'll add in the bows speakers. Check

2379
01:56:30,000 --> 01:56:30,320
Speaker 2: this out.

2380
01:56:32,080 --> 01:56:35,400
Speaker 1: Bo's noise canceling toilet wife. What do you want for

2381
01:56:35,440 --> 01:56:38,640
Speaker 1: your birthday? Me? Oh, I don't want noise canceling at all.

2382
01:56:38,720 --> 01:56:42,320
Speaker 1: In fact, I would prefer to have noise projecting. That's

2383
01:56:42,360 --> 01:56:44,520
Speaker 1: the way you really dominate your kingdom.

2384
01:56:44,600 --> 01:56:48,520
Speaker 2: Long Island, Luke, reminding us that Elizabeth Gilbert of Connecticut

2385
01:56:48,560 --> 01:56:50,280
Speaker 2: wrote Eat, Prey Love, Thank.

2386
01:56:50,120 --> 01:56:50,960
Speaker 1: You very much.

2387
01:56:51,920 --> 01:56:55,680
Speaker 2: Finally, Luke, our final segment is about never forgetting. What

2388
01:56:55,720 --> 01:56:58,760
Speaker 2: are your thoughts on this? Pakistan Airlines promo.

2389
01:57:02,640 --> 01:57:04,200
Speaker 1: Didn't have to be this way?

2390
01:57:04,880 --> 01:57:08,280
Speaker 2: I agree with you, it kind of it kind of

2391
01:57:08,280 --> 01:57:09,600
Speaker 2: reminds me of something.

2392
01:57:09,320 --> 01:57:10,879
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, a little bit. Maybe.

2393
01:57:11,160 --> 01:57:13,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't think we need to be remembering that

2394
01:57:13,200 --> 01:57:15,360
Speaker 2: on the show. I mean we you know what I'm saying. Anyway,

2395
01:57:15,400 --> 01:57:16,920
Speaker 2: we got one more clip. Let's watch it.

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01:57:17,400 --> 01:57:17,560
Speaker 6: Bro.

2397
01:57:17,720 --> 01:57:19,440
Speaker 2: Look at these sweet ass beery tires.

2398
01:57:19,440 --> 01:57:21,640
Speaker 6: We got this shit's fucking sig.

2399
01:57:21,760 --> 01:57:27,240
Speaker 2: Whoa, what the fuck? I mean? I think you know

2400
01:57:27,320 --> 01:57:30,080
Speaker 2: that's a little insensitive these days, but that's the shit

2401
01:57:30,160 --> 01:57:32,240
Speaker 2: of the week. I hope you saw it, all right,

2402
01:57:32,360 --> 01:57:32,800
Speaker 2: thank you.

2403
01:57:33,600 --> 01:57:36,480
Speaker 1: I saw this reel on Insta where it was some

2404
01:57:36,520 --> 01:57:38,560
Speaker 1: guy being like it was like and it had like

2405
01:57:38,760 --> 01:57:41,520
Speaker 1: the year written below him. He's doing a bit, obviously,

2406
01:57:41,920 --> 01:57:44,560
Speaker 1: and it's like two thousand. It's like two thousand and two,

2407
01:57:44,800 --> 01:57:46,840
Speaker 1: and you know, it's a question about like nine eleven jokes.

2408
01:57:46,840 --> 01:57:48,360
Speaker 1: It's like, man, what's wrong? Why would you do it?

2409
01:57:48,680 --> 01:57:52,080
Speaker 1: And then it's like twenty twelve and it's like, all right, man,

2410
01:57:52,160 --> 01:57:54,080
Speaker 1: like you know that's funny, but you know, let's move

2411
01:57:54,120 --> 01:57:56,080
Speaker 1: this along. And then it was like twenty twenty two

2412
01:57:56,160 --> 01:57:59,680
Speaker 1: and it was just straight up hardcore nine to eleven humor.

2413
01:57:59,680 --> 01:58:00,920
Speaker 1: And I was like, I didn't even know that was

2414
01:58:00,920 --> 01:58:03,760
Speaker 1: a thing until Brian Campbell entered my life and now

2415
01:58:03,800 --> 01:58:05,840
Speaker 1: I can understand the reels. Now I get it.

2416
01:58:06,400 --> 01:58:09,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that ended with that man opening a nine to eleven. Uh,

2417
01:58:10,320 --> 01:58:12,480
Speaker 2: ridiculous souvenir store.

2418
01:58:12,960 --> 01:58:14,760
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, look what we have.

2419
01:58:14,840 --> 01:58:17,720
Speaker 2: Yes, like a spirit Halloween store of nine to eleven. Anyway,

2420
01:58:17,760 --> 01:58:20,640
Speaker 2: that's that. No more morbid crap. That's it. That's it.

2421
01:58:21,200 --> 01:58:25,120
Speaker 2: That's the damn show. A reminder that this great episode

2422
01:58:25,120 --> 01:58:27,240
Speaker 2: of Morning Combat was brought to you by the DraftKings,

2423
01:58:27,280 --> 01:58:32,360
Speaker 2: and of course the DraftKings. The crown is yours, thank

2424
01:58:32,440 --> 01:58:35,080
Speaker 2: you very much. I have to pee my pants, Luke,

2425
01:58:35,120 --> 01:58:36,600
Speaker 2: is there anything else you want to tell the people

2426
01:58:36,960 --> 01:58:40,040
Speaker 2: outside of pregame preview Friday, eleven am Eastern, brought to

2427
01:58:40,080 --> 01:58:41,280
Speaker 2: you by Cuervo b There.

2428
01:58:41,680 --> 01:58:43,400
Speaker 1: That's it. Be there live at eleven am in the

2429
01:58:43,440 --> 01:58:46,640
Speaker 1: East on Friday. You me BC, Chuck Mindenhall. Let's have

2430
01:58:46,680 --> 01:58:48,480
Speaker 1: a good time and not the biggest best card ever,

2431
01:58:48,520 --> 01:58:51,040
Speaker 1: but it is poetson It's poetson fight week. Let's lean

2432
01:58:51,080 --> 01:58:52,080
Speaker 1: into it and have a good time.

2433
01:58:52,480 --> 01:58:54,800
Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna soil myself long island, Luke, do

2434
01:58:54,800 --> 01:58:56,280
Speaker 2: you want to say goodbye to the people at all?

2435
01:58:56,360 --> 01:58:58,080
Speaker 2: Or you like already on the uh.

2436
01:58:58,880 --> 01:59:00,720
Speaker 6: On the end will be in five minutes.

2437
01:59:00,760 --> 01:59:02,880
Speaker 2: Goodbye to the people. All right, thank you, thank you

2438
01:59:02,960 --> 01:59:05,839
Speaker 2: very much for Luke Thomas, I'm BC. Take care of yourselves.

2439
01:59:05,840 --> 01:59:08,280
Speaker 2: We love you. Thank you for tuning in. We'll be

2440
01:59:08,360 --> 01:59:10,200
Speaker 2: back with some MMA this week and we're gonna hit

2441
01:59:10,200 --> 01:59:15,200
Speaker 2: it hard until then. Gains loyalty and wipe sitting because

2442
01:59:15,240 --> 01:59:17,360
Speaker 2: it's like what normal people would do and we're out

2443
01:59:17,360 --> 01:59:18,560
Speaker 2: of here. Yeah, that's great.