WEBVTT - Tennessee’s Redistricting is RACIST | NLP Replay 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:03.720 Native Land Pod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership 0:00:03.800 --> 0:00:10.320 with Reason Choice Media Welcome Home to the Natives. 0:00:10.440 --> 0:00:15.200 On Tuesday, Tennessee was called into special session to get 0:00:15.320 --> 0:00:20.480 rid of the sole black district, majority minority district. Unfortunately 0:00:20.480 --> 0:00:24.000 that's represented by Steve Coin right now, but it is 0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:27.280 a majority minority district, and Justin Pearson was said to 0:00:27.840 --> 0:00:30.800 challenge Steve Coin in this district that Justin Pearson, of course, 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:33.760 is the state representative there. The voices, the very voices 0:00:33.800 --> 0:00:37.559 that Elliotts are describing, are those that were protesting. Let 0:00:37.680 --> 0:00:41.080 us please roll this clip of State Senator London Lamar 0:00:41.320 --> 0:00:45.919 protesting against the Republican redistricting efforts in Tennessee just on Tuesday. 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:52.000 Colonel Lamar, thank you, missus, speaker, but I'm not thankful 0:00:52.000 --> 0:00:56.800 to be here. I never thought in my lifetime did 0:00:56.840 --> 0:00:59.960 I be standing in a body surrounded by my colleagues 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:02.960 who are going to erase the vote of my city 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:07.800 and black people in Memphis. My constituents are angry right now, 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:12.640 and just forty eight hours after this Supreme Court decision, 0:01:13.640 --> 0:01:17.800 you all decided that you're gonna slice black voters in Memphis. 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:21.080 I need you to know this will be one of 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:25.720 the most racist actions taken in the history of modern 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:29.800 history of this legislature that you are participating in this week. 0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:37.840 Intentionally breaking state law to take my community's vote is 0:01:37.959 --> 0:01:43.640 downright disgusting and offensive. My grandmother, who's sinning watching of 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:48.120 meet right now, still alive to this day, live with 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:51.480 a moment where she could not vote, and I remember 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:54.040 the smile on her face when her grand baby got 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:58.240 elected in made history. And I know some of you 0:01:58.400 --> 0:02:02.720 sending in this body Ashley, don't agree with this. I 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:06.200 know you don't, but this is an opportunity for you 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:11.799 to have some courage, show some courage. Y'all know this 0:02:11.880 --> 0:02:13.919 is wrong. You know it. 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:15.920 You know it. 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:21.079 You don't have to do it. I'm calling on the 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:23.000 soul of you to do. 0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:24.680 The right thing. 0:02:26.120 --> 0:02:28.960 Let's not carve out Memphis because you can't fairly win 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:31.920 in a ballot box or to favor one member in 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:36.359 this body's path to Congress. If you do this, this 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:39.720 is racist in its intent and there's no reason for 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:42.680 us to cut through it. Let's call it what it is. 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:49.520 Call it what it is, show some courage. Thank you, 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:57.000 mister speaker, potential yourself with modern history right. 0:02:58.760 --> 0:03:00.800 The crazy part about these men as though, like and 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:05.680 this is like, my experiences is kind of unique when 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:08.880 it comes to this stuff because I was on our 0:03:09.240 --> 0:03:11.000 I was one of the five people who drew actually 0:03:11.080 --> 0:03:13.320 drew the lines in South Carolina in twenty ten, and 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:15.240 so I was able to travel around and do the 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:17.640 town hall meetings and go in the rooms and actually 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:20.480 take the maps out and go precinct by precinct with 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:22.799 the guidelines of the Voting Rights Act and making sure 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:26.680 we weren't going over bodies of water and splitting you know, streets, 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:28.400 and trying to do that to the best of our ability, 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:30.480 and getting that in South Carolina it was like thirty 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:33.040 three thy seven hundred and one. That was like the 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:35.440 number you were looking for. And then I had to 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:38.000 testify in district court and then testify and then it 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:39.520 went all the way up to the Supreme Court, and 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:41.400 they wrote about it and all of these things. So 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:44.600 I was able to see it from a really interesting perspective. 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:47.240 And all of these maps stick out for one thing, 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:52.080 they're patently legally absurd. The map that they're talking about 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:57.800 doing in Tennessee. Take someone from downtown Memphis to be 0:03:57.960 --> 0:04:02.640 represented by the same person who represents a city two 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:07.800 hundred miles away, Like it's patently absurd. When you look 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:11.000 at the potential maps in South Carolina, they go from 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:14.520 the top of the state of South Carolina, the border 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:17.280 of Georgia and North Carolina all the way down to Buford, 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:22.400 Like they cover hours of ground. Because what people don't 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:26.400 understand is that black people ain't going nowhere. It's not 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:30.280 like we're moving with the district, like the black centers 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:33.359 in Memphis are going to be the black centers in Memphis. 0:04:33.440 --> 0:04:35.760 And so to do this, I think you're gonna have 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:39.680 a hard time still passing the muster, even set forth 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:41.039 by this bullshit Supreme Court. 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:44.159 We got, well, we won't know because it's an imaginary one, right. 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:48.240 The muster now is how they use so we're supposed to. 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:50.960 We thought we had a guidepost when they said we 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:54.919 still have Section two after they destroyed Section five. But 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:58.479 then their justification here is so long as you can 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:02.560 come up with a reasonable argument that you are removing 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:07.520 or splitting, slicing and dicing this not because these people 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:10.960 are black, but because you're trying to create a Republican majority, 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:14.800 which they have created as constitutional Jerry mandering for the 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:18.240 purpose of political advantage. And so since in the South, 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:20.680 and I think probably all over the country, but definitely 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:24.200 in the South, the correlation between race and political party, 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:28.200 they're almost one and the same. Black people are Democrats, 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:32.039 white people are Republicans. And so if you're drawing a 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:36.960 district for political advantage, you can slice, dice, split black 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:41.000 folks up into many subgroups, say we never recognize the 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:44.440 power of our whole so that you can accomplish the 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:48.080 goal of creating a Republican seat. And the member in 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:51.760 Tennessee was simply saying, let's call this thing what it is. 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:55.159 While the Constitution may have been plastered over by this 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:58.080 current Republican majority in the United S of Supreme Court, 0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:02.599 giving you the s roud of dignity that you're building 0:06:02.600 --> 0:06:06.400 this for political advantage, we know you're building this to 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:12.640 destroy black representative voice. But Cary, I thought that part 0:06:12.680 --> 0:06:16.400 of our conversation was about the fact that there are 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:21.680 now black people in great areas in southwest Atlanta and 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:24.400 you know, Tallahassee and the North Side and all these 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:30.520 other places where they have argued with themselves to say, well, 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:33.640 we can still elect a black person because we've done 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:35.960 it in this case, and in this case, and in 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:39.440 this case, and Ellie, I think did better than I could. 0:06:39.480 --> 0:06:41.800 I was attempting to make sure I guarded myself while 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:44.559 I made the comment. But it's not that you're getting 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:48.560 a poorer quality of black elected I'm not suggesting that. 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:53.080 I am saying. However, all elected officials are not created equal, 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:56.520 and different ones of us can do different things and 0:06:56.560 --> 0:06:59.080 show up in different ways for our community and be 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:02.520 as effective as you can possibly imagine. But when it 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:09.000 comes to the will, the realm of your authority that 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:12.800 requires the public will, people have to give you your authority. 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:15.280 They can limit it or they can expand it based 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:17.880 on how they feel. And if you don't hear your 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:20.360 voice being spoken the way you speak it, the way 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:22.400 you do it, saying a thing that needs to be 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:26.000 said the way it needs to be done, you risk 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:28.280 losing out on a whole constituency of people who never 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:31.800 rally on that issue because they never heard you talking 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:34.239 about them. You may have been, but you were referring 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:37.040 to boundaries and districts, and this person was talking about 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:42.960 the grocery store and food on my table. So what 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:47.440 we are being raped of, we're being just completely script 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:51.640 of it's our ability to even in Tennessee, where they 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:53.880 chose a white man to be their voice, the choice 0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:57.000 was still theirs as a community that could be made 0:07:57.040 --> 0:08:00.400 as a community because y'all had the we were and 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:06.040 we weren't a single We were us and not one individual. 0:08:07.040 --> 0:08:11.240 And so now they have decided that we're so well 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:14.640 healed we can win white votes and so we no 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:19.960 longer need the concentrated fist to bring down its power 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:23.080 whenever it needed to bring it down because the leader 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:26.720 said so. And we're in compromise place, y'all, And I 0:08:26.760 --> 0:08:30.240 couldn't be more despaired by it, because I don't know 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:33.680 what the road map looks like to overcome it. Yes, 0:08:33.800 --> 0:08:36.080 go vote, yes, organize. 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:38.480 But you know, ag to this point, like I'm so 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:40.400 glad you said, like you don't know where to go 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:42.280 from here. I think that we have to understand what 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:46.400 the bottom is and we still really don't know what 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:49.760 the bottom is. And just for example, you all know 0:08:49.840 --> 0:08:53.040 we record our show Wednesday morning. Right before our show started, 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:57.320 we got word that Louise Lucas, Senator Lucas out of Virginia, 0:08:57.880 --> 0:09:01.880 her office has been rated. This was proposed by Donald 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:06.920 Trump's foe district attorney in Virginia that didn't have the credentials, 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:10.720 that kept going after people like Tiss James, and who 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:13.679 else did she go after in Virginia? I missing somebody 0:09:13.960 --> 0:09:16.200 Tis James and one other person. They had to throw 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:18.240 the oh it's James, comey. They had to throw the 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:22.240 cases out because she wasn't air tight on her way out. 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:24.959 She suggests that it would be good for Donald Trump 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:28.800 in midterms, energizing their base for the midterms by going 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:32.440 after a powerhouse like Senator Lucas, who is the one 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:36.480 of the people who championed Virginia's redistricting process to make 0:09:36.520 --> 0:09:40.520 the maps fair again, to make the electoral process fair again, 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:45.440 by discounting what Donald Trump and his minions are doing 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:49.360 in other Southern states. So they go after Louise Lucas today. 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:51.360 God only knows for what. 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:54.920 But the spectacle of an FBI raided her office of 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:58.280 a cannabis dispensary across the lot of several other entities, 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:01.840 dragging people out a swat tea going in. You know, 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:04.559 I mean, that is what we're dealing with. So anybody that. 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:06.840 Has you missed, you miss the most important. 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:09.000 But let me just say this, anyone who has the 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:12.000 courage to do the right thing in the face of 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:14.800 this terrorist, this is what they're going to do back. 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:19.280 They're trying to send a signal, a damn foghorn that 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:21.360 if you do right, if you try to pursue, if 0:10:21.400 --> 0:10:26.160 you dare to pursue justice, and with this administration, these 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:29.199 are the repercussions you will lose your freedom. 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:32.319 Angelau, you're helping to draw the through line of. 0:10:33.760 --> 0:10:38.200 And it's important because Angela was Angela was correct, but 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:41.760 she forgot one major point in her articulation of the 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:46.119 facts arounding Louise Lucas. Fox News apparently had to wherewithal 0:10:46.200 --> 0:10:48.680 to stake it out, so they got the news first. 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:51.520 So if there was any doubt or question, I wanted 0:10:51.520 --> 0:10:54.120 our viewers to and listeners to have the full context 0:10:54.480 --> 0:10:57.880 of what weaponization really looks like. Because the only news 0:10:57.880 --> 0:11:00.400 station that was there during the FBI raid, which, by 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:02.360 the way, Elie, tell me if I'm wrong, but don't 0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:04.560 they usually happen right before Don or right around Don, 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:07.240 but having it having it around lunchtime is just weird. 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:10.720 But anyway, the only people who were there to record 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:13.760 this was Fox News. I'm sorry, and everything else I 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:16.120 want to say, I want to kudos, everything else, Angela. 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:19.160 Said, I just that the through line is for me. 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:24.000 We started talking about the election outcomes and Republicans solidifying 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:27.880 their support behind Trump and Indiana. I am now trying 0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:32.120 to say there is no distinguishable difference between the people 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:36.240 taking these actions and those who are empowering them to 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:39.559 be able to do this by voting for their Republicans 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:43.199 who are on the ballot, who are simply rubber stamps. 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:47.560 Y'all are all the same. If you if if you 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:52.920 wanted accountability on a runaway government, you have an easy 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:56.200 way to do that. But but, but but this is 0:11:56.240 --> 0:11:58.640 the this is the beauty of understanding them, I think, 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:02.199 is to see that they are in common cause despite 0:12:02.520 --> 0:12:05.880 the areas of disagreement that surface. The war may be 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:09.800 an area of disagreements, and inconvenience, the price of gas 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:12.040 might be an inconvenience right now, maybe a big one 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:15.480 for some people if you are strained at every corner 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:20.280 of your wallet. But where we still come home is 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:22.960 that The New York Times is being sued by Trump's 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:29.120 Equal Opportunity Office because a white man was denied a job, 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:33.120 and a person who was non white got the job 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:37.360 they were applying for. It is because her meat is 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:44.880 going around advertising on online markers on the internet to 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:47.679 white men to come and bring your case to me. 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:52.400 Donald Trump's a hired hand to go after those people 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:55.320 who have been taking from you, white men, what you 0:12:55.440 --> 0:13:00.360 so richly deserve. So the common cause the through for 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:02.680 me is that I don't care how mad they get 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:06.439 with Donald Trump. I don't care how many sound bites 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:10.600 they offer of disagreement about his thing he did today, yesterday, 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:14.040 or the day before, because they are still making common 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:18.320 cause and they are still at peace with him when 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:21.840 he is taking us out the picture, swiping us completely 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:25.000 out the frame. So I don't have high hopes. I 0:13:25.000 --> 0:13:28.480 guess for me, if I had to go action, which 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:29.960 is what we'll get to next. And I know we 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:31.960 got another topic but we're gonna have to talk about 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:35.720 after the show. But my ass would be to really 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:38.480 come to terms people that we are not gonna be 0:13:38.480 --> 0:13:44.160 saved by anybody else. There is no gallivanting a group 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:47.280 of Republican white folks that are going to surface this 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:51.959 November and get us free. I don't believe it. I 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:54.920 don't care what the polls show. I think they would 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:57.000 may be mad today, but they gonna make common cause 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:01.360 with the strand that runs beneath all of them. And 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:03.480 so when you talk, we just have to do our part. 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:06.920 When you talk about the road forward, I mean I 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:08.840 go back to history. I go back to you know, 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:13.080 Bakari was saying eighteen ninety six plus E v. Ferguson 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:16.959 nineteen fifty four, Brown be boarded that what changed? What's 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:19.600 the difference between eighteen ninety six and nineteen fifty four? 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:24.520 And I have two answers for that. We had different 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:27.720 Supreme Court justices and in nineteen fifty four. 0:14:27.800 --> 0:14:30.120 We had one that we had one that was that 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:33.000 that literally transformed the court. Though Earl Warren was just 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:33.920 a whole different beast. 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:36.400 You know what. 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:40.240 Katanji Brown Jackson got that dog in her right. 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:42.200 She got thow dogs in us. 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:44.720 But Earl Warren was a white man though, so it 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:45.760 was a little different. 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:54.280 Something we can, we can. We have the people that 0:14:54.320 --> 0:14:56.800 we need to have, they're just not on the court. 0:14:56.960 --> 0:14:57.920 Yeah, right. 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:01.040 And so when I always come back to Supreme Court expansion, 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:03.080 when I always come back to the Supreme Court reform, 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:06.280 this is why The thing that changed between eighteen ninety 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:08.280 six and nineteen fifty four is that we had a 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:11.120 completely different Supreme Court by nineteen fifty four, and we 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:13.320 have to have a completely different Supreme Court than the 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:15.840 Roberts Court in twenty twenty six. We have to like you. 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:19.880 There is nothing you can do if you don't change 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:23.320 the Supreme Court, because the Supreme Court will always exist 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:27.640 as the stop, as the retardation on progress. That is 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:31.040 their function. They understand their function. They understand that they 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:36.320 are there four whites, including the black one. They understand 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:39.840 that they're there for whites. And until you change the 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:42.760 math on the Supreme Court, you change nothing. Can so 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:45.240 I always can I do my call to action phone? No? No? 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:47.320 Wait wait wait is that a call? That's the call 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:48.480 to action? I have a question? 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:50.320 You got it? Go ahead? 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:53.760 Okay, Sorry, Well I thought Ellie went off on a tangent, 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:56.000 but I like that tangent and call to action. But 0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:58.680 I have a quick question for Ellie. I'm sorry, ag, 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:01.640 but is there can you quickly like in thirty seconds 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:03.200 so I'm not in too much trouble, my co host, 0:16:03.520 --> 0:16:06.680 can you forecast for us what you think is gonna 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:08.480 happen in the birthright citizenship case. 0:16:09.520 --> 0:16:11.680 I think Trump is gonna lose that one based on 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:14.320 oral arguments. I thought that was gonna be the bridge 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:16.560 too far, and I think that they're gonna use that 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:19.640 is to see we're not totally racist. We stared up 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:21.600 to Trump' stuff, Like, I think that's gonna be how 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:24.280 they go. I think they're gonna lose it seven to two. 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:28.280 I could even make a case for eight to one, 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:31.760 depending on what Clarence Thomas thinks I made. I made 0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:35.800 the argument that literally Thomas was not as down to 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:38.240 get rid of birthright citizenship as I expected him to. 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:40.160 I still think he'll I still think it's gonna be 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:42.360 seven to two with Alito and Thomas dissenting. But I 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:43.960 could even make a case for eight to one. But 0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:46.280 like Barrett just wasn't going for it. Neil Gorsich, I 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:49.360 didn't think was going for it. I think he'll lose 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:53.200 that one. Yeah, So you know, I'll come back here 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:55.920 when we don't, when they win and e Crow. 0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:13.639 For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 0:17:13.800 --> 0:17:17.240 or wherever you may listen to your favorite shows.