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Speaker 2: Gee.
Speaker 3: You know what's so cool about you being a stoner?
Speaker 3: I have to say you have such an amazing.
Speaker 2: Work ethic around it.
Speaker 3: First of all, let it be known here and first
Speaker 3: and foremost. I worked with Germo every single day almost
Speaker 3: for seven years straight. You have never come to Workstone,
Speaker 3: You would never. That's your worst night can't like it's
Speaker 3: your worst nightmare. It scares the shit at you.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I would never. But part of me wishes
Speaker 1: I could function at work and be behigh. But there's
Speaker 1: no way, there's no way.
Speaker 3: I'm too as I've never crossed that line. But are
Speaker 3: someone that like when you.
Speaker 1: Come home from the work day, Hell yeah.
Speaker 2: It's like I'm gonna smoke to like take the edge
Speaker 2: off and like whatever.
Speaker 3: But I feel like most people would get pretty muddy there,
Speaker 3: and it's like just.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I know that there's some big actors like
Speaker 1: I know Eddie Murphy, I've heard does it Eject Nicholson
Speaker 1: Like they're constantly stoned on set like you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, butson Ford.
Speaker 1: Paris and Ford too, But their work is Stellar. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean, it doesn't affect their work, and
Speaker 1: that's a that's a special breed. I can't do that shit.
Speaker 2: Well, let it be a set.
Speaker 3: But like I've never been fucked up. It's I've never
Speaker 3: been Scandal. No no, no, no, no no no. I just
Speaker 3: my memory went back to on Scandal. Because I was
Speaker 3: the youngest of the series regulars, they used to give
Speaker 3: me the last shot of the night on a Friday,
Speaker 3: and I would get called into work at ten pm
Speaker 3: to shoot like at midnight and be wrapped by two am.
Speaker 3: And one time I was not drunk by any means,
Speaker 3: but I had a beer on my deck and then
Speaker 3: had to like drive to work.
Speaker 2: But I had a beer, and I was.
Speaker 3: Like completely fucking goodie two shoe like horrified that I
Speaker 3: have done that. I was just like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: how could I have had a fucking beer.
Speaker 2: First of all, it's a fucking beer, Like if you
Speaker 2: shoot in Europe or you shoot in England, so many
Speaker 2: people have beer or wine with lunch in the middle
Speaker 2: of a shoe day.
Speaker 3: Like since then, now that I've grown up and I'm
Speaker 3: not little baby bitch. When we shot Inventing Anna and
Speaker 3: we shot in Morocco, and we were with a foreign
Speaker 3: crew in Morocco. I mean every day the hour lunch,
Speaker 3: everyone's having a glass or two of wine, like, oh yeah,
Speaker 3: it was wonderful. Like I was like, why does this
Speaker 3: seem so fun? So I was never drunk on scandal.
Speaker 3: But I have to say when we did the Broadway
Speaker 3: and Adam and I did Waitress.
Speaker 2: For some reason, when.
Speaker 3: You do a musical, a lot of people take like
Speaker 3: a shot of whiskey or something like before the show
Speaker 3: or an intermission to sort of like warm up their chords,
Speaker 3: because whiskey makes your chords feel like really lubricated and
Speaker 3: super warm, and and everyone's got whiskey in their room
Speaker 3: and you just like take a shot.
Speaker 2: And I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 3: My character I played had so much heavy lifting in
Speaker 3: the first act. I've never done it for the first act.
Speaker 3: But the second act, Dawn is really not around that much.
Speaker 3: And so I remember there were a couple of the
Speaker 3: hundred million shows we did where the second act.
Speaker 1: I was like a little bit.
Speaker 3: It's no way shape form, yeah yeah, like a light
Speaker 3: buzz yeah. And it was a blast, and I thought
Speaker 3: I was the greatest actor ever.
Speaker 1: Of course I did a movie with Mario con Chito
Speaker 1: Alonzo and she while we were downtime, while they were
Speaker 1: setting up, she would go around with tequila shots and
Speaker 1: make us do tequila shots. So I did do that,
Speaker 1: had a couple of times, but I just did like
Speaker 1: one or two. But I was like, Okay, did.
Speaker 2: You feel like you were the best actor ever?
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally.
Speaker 2: That's sort of the weird thing about it.
Speaker 1: You lose your inhibitions. But I also didn't do that
Speaker 1: much where I was like super like buzz, but she
Speaker 1: was no joke. She would literally go around and give
Speaker 1: us all tequila shots. I was like, what's happening? What
Speaker 1: is my air goo and sheet Alonzo, I had to
Speaker 1: do it. I couldn't say.
Speaker 2: No, non, no, like are you joking? Of course you
Speaker 2: have to do that. But Scandal, God, everyone was such
Speaker 2: goodie two shoes, like you would never ever ever, but.
Speaker 3: You never and you're such a stoner. I always loved
Speaker 3: that you were so like, you're just very disciplined. You're
Speaker 3: really good at your own boundaries. Because I would be like,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, this fucking episode right, I just rewatched and
Speaker 3: had to I close my eyes for a lot of
Speaker 3: it because I cannot handle what they're doing to you.
Speaker 2: I cannot. It's horrific. It's not okay, Like I can't
Speaker 2: believe this episode.
Speaker 1: You believe that shit.
Speaker 2: I don't even care about what happens to rest of
Speaker 2: this episode.
Speaker 3: I mean I do, but I just want to hear
Speaker 3: about your experience in shooting this because it is a
Speaker 3: fucking nightmare.
Speaker 2: Like I can't watch it. I don't know if it's
Speaker 2: because I love you so much as a friend or I.
Speaker 3: Love hockbody character, but it's really hard to watch. And
Speaker 3: we're talking about episode two ten one for the Dog,
Speaker 3: which aired on January tenth, twenty thirteen.
Speaker 1: It was written by Heather Mitchell and it was directed
Speaker 1: by Steve Robin.
Speaker 3: It was guest starring Susie poor Far as Becky Flynn,
Speaker 3: Brian Lesher as Tom, Wendy Davis is Kimberly Mitchell, Stony
Speaker 3: Westmoreland is hal Rimbaut, Kavita Patil as President's doctor while
Speaker 3: she was Great, and who else g.
Speaker 1: And Sam McMurray is the US attorney Pat Wexler, Joe
Speaker 1: Holt as the Secretary of Defense Virginia, Louise Smith as
Speaker 1: Secretary of State, Troy Vincent as NSA type, Sonya Rockwell
Speaker 1: as Trixie, j Jackson as a male reporter, and James
Speaker 1: McDonald as interrogator.
Speaker 3: Okay, let's do this synopsis very very quickly, because I
Speaker 3: like this is the most violent I can't Okay. After
Speaker 3: Vernon Thornton expresses her concerns about Hollis Doyle, Olivia and
Speaker 3: the team get to work trying to uncover Hollis's involvement
Speaker 3: the assassination attempt. But when the word miraculously comes that
Speaker 3: Fits is awake and ready to reclaim the presidency, Olivia
Speaker 3: learns that they're in much deeper trouble than they scramble
Speaker 3: to cover up Mellie's fraud.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, David Rosen sees the dark side of the government
Speaker 1: as they torture Huck under the Patriot Act. When Huck talks,
Speaker 1: he warns David that Becky isn't done yet, not until
Speaker 1: the president is dead.
Speaker 2: Things come to a head when Olivia convinces Sally to
Speaker 2: let Huck out if they can promise to turn in
Speaker 2: the real assassin.
Speaker 1: Yo, I'm crazy.
Speaker 2: I cannot watch this fucking episode.
Speaker 3: I cannot Have you ever been tortured before in any
Speaker 3: show you've done.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, but I remember we had to
Speaker 1: rehearse the waterboarding. I didn't know about waterboarding. I didn't
Speaker 1: really know what it was. I didn't understand it. And
Speaker 1: then we did a couple of rehearsals with Tom Verica,
Speaker 1: which is weird. Oh Tom was there because he was
Speaker 1: the producing director, right and our director of course, Steve Robin.
Speaker 1: And they just laid me on a plank and pulled
Speaker 1: me back and just were like, this is what it's
Speaker 1: going to be like. And they poured the water slowly
Speaker 1: over my face, like with a rag, over my mouth
Speaker 1: and nose.
Speaker 3: When you rehearsed it, would they say like, okay, now
Speaker 3: hold your breath or like what or you're screaming?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean I think instinctually, you you know, I
Speaker 1: just held my breath. But you know, they did it very,
Speaker 1: very sort of lightly, and they sort of you know,
Speaker 1: got me used to it and they just kind of
Speaker 1: wanted me to feel what was going to feel like
Speaker 1: when we shot it. But it was intense. Man. You know.
Speaker 1: The the craziest thing about shooting that stuff was that
Speaker 1: I had to be naked. But they can, you know,
Speaker 1: as actors when you're naked in a scene, they usually
Speaker 1: give you a little cover of ban Yeah, the NAD.
Speaker 2: Disease. I can't. I cannot. Here's why why if someone's
Speaker 2: tortured on the Patriot Act, why do they have to
Speaker 2: be naked? Is that even like a thing?
Speaker 1: Right? Don't they fuck? You know, to humiliate them? It's
Speaker 1: also you know, it's it's mental torture too. But an
Speaker 1: interesting fact. The guy that's that's sort of the head
Speaker 1: the he's the interrogator in that scene, he's wearing a
Speaker 1: black tea shirt.
Speaker 2: I wanted to fucking kill him.
Speaker 1: Yes. Now, Katie is a Sex and the City fan.
Speaker 1: He was in a in a Sex in the City episode,
Speaker 1: which one it was when they go to La and
Speaker 1: Samantha goes to like a sex shop like show or whatever,
Speaker 1: and this guy has like a a dildo that he's selling.
Speaker 1: It's a cast of his penis, yes, and Samantha, and
Speaker 1: Samantha sleeps with him and then he's like, I'm a
Speaker 1: poet too, and he wants to keep reciting poetry to her,
Speaker 1: and she's like, I just want you to fuck me.
Speaker 1: But but he he has like a penis in a
Speaker 1: box that he you know, they sell at the sex.
Speaker 2: Shop completely remember that. And that's the guy.
Speaker 1: That's the guy. His name is James McDonald. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: pretty hot. He is hot. He is hot, but.
Speaker 2: He's always pretty hot.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But also another fun fact that I found that
Speaker 1: he is related to the twenty third US president, President
Speaker 1: Benjamin Harrison.
Speaker 2: Got the fuck out of here.
Speaker 1: Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 2: There are two.
Speaker 3: Things that are crazy about this That he's related to
Speaker 3: Benjamin Harrison. And the second thing is that I don't
Speaker 3: think I ever knew that we had a president named
Speaker 3: Benjamin Harrison.
Speaker 1: I didn't either. He served one term from eighteen eighty
Speaker 1: nine to eighteen ninety three. He was a Republican and
Speaker 1: Grover Cleveland preceded him and succeeded him as well.
Speaker 2: He grows, So no one gave a fuck about this, dude.
Speaker 1: Really, Yeah, he did one term and he was out.
Speaker 1: But how interesting that Grover Cleveland preceded him. So he
Speaker 1: was the president before and then and then he was
Speaker 1: the president after. He was the only president in US history.
Speaker 3: Who's ever done that, a two term president, but not
Speaker 3: consecutive exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh my crazy shit.
Speaker 2: Good and related to old guy.
Speaker 1: To Dick Mold guy, James Jurer.
Speaker 3: James McDonald take me to the night before the water
Speaker 3: boarding scene. Are you up all night you can't sleep,
Speaker 3: You're terrified, or you excited because you love horror movies
Speaker 3: and this is your shit, or you just like feeling
Speaker 3: like I can't wait to fucking do this, or you
Speaker 3: just like I don't want.
Speaker 2: To do this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what it seems like this, Katie, I
Speaker 1: feel more not nervous and more not anxious at all,
Speaker 1: because in the scene I have to be so traumatized
Speaker 1: and anxious and scared and you know, all those emotions
Speaker 1: that I don't stress about it. I get more anxious
Speaker 1: and nervous about scenes where I have to you know,
Speaker 1: say a bunch of words and be very you know,
Speaker 1: proper and at opa or whatever. That stuff makes me
Speaker 1: more nervous than a scene like this, because I'm just
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Because I know when I
Speaker 1: get there, if I feel anxious, I'm like, oh, just
Speaker 1: you're to ship in a scene.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you're gonna scream and you're gonna flip out, And.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was more excited about doing it than anything.
Speaker 3: You were so outstanding in this episode, and I really
Speaker 3: I couldn't watch it, like I just was. So it's
Speaker 3: so violent to watch someone be torture. First of all,
Speaker 3: it's absolutely fucking horrifying because the person can't fight back.
Speaker 1: And and the fact, like I was thinking, the fact
Speaker 1: that they actually do this, like our government does this shit.
Speaker 1: I mean other governments as well, of course do we
Speaker 1: that and even shadier ship, but the fact that shit
Speaker 1: like this happens goes down. And because it's you're in
Speaker 1: the Pentagon, it's you know, all there are no rules,
Speaker 1: like they can whatever.
Speaker 3: Is character like this is us soil, and the guys like,
Speaker 3: no fucking a, this is the bowels of the fucking Pentagon.
Speaker 3: There are no citizens here, there are no human rights,
Speaker 3: like we don't give a shit, like we're figuring out
Speaker 3: who shot the president.
Speaker 1: Yo. And around this time, Katie, I don't know if
Speaker 1: you remember, there's a photo of me getting waterboarded, like
Speaker 1: when they sit me up and I'm saying i'll talk,
Speaker 1: I'll talk for me. Oh. Photo was released on the
Speaker 1: Internet by TMZ of me saying that I went crazy
Speaker 1: on set and murdered Joe Morton. Do you remember this? No, yes, talking,
Speaker 1: it was it was all over. It was on Twitter.
Speaker 1: They released a katie for like four minute came out.
Speaker 1: It was during the time. I don't know if it
Speaker 1: was before like right after, but they used that photo
Speaker 1: of me getting interrogated and TMZ, who is a you know,
Speaker 1: a huge reputable like.
Speaker 2: Yes, huge celebrity.
Speaker 1: They're sort of tabloidy, but they're they're legit. If you will,
Speaker 1: of course, how crazy is that?
Speaker 2: Are you fucking out of your mind? You could still
Speaker 2: kind of google it tell somebody.
Speaker 1: Like no, because I saw somebody told me about it
Speaker 1: and it popped up on Twitter and I saw it
Speaker 1: and then next thing I knew it was gone. I
Speaker 1: think TMZ realized, oh shit, we fucked up. At first.
Speaker 1: I think they thought is this real and they just
Speaker 1: released it and they didn't do their due diligence and
Speaker 1: make sure that it was real. It was the weirdest shit.
Speaker 2: Fuck you TMZ at the time.
Speaker 3: Let it be known to you listeners that we are
Speaker 3: are professional researchers, producers and geniuses behind the scan of
Speaker 3: Rewatch podcast. I've done a deep dive and the photo
Speaker 3: and the evidence no longer even exists that has the
Speaker 3: picture of you being waterboard and saying that you killed
Speaker 3: Joe Morton.
Speaker 1: Thanks, that's pretty good, good, pretty good.
Speaker 3: Well, maybe you know what TMZ probably has something to
Speaker 3: like sweep right, yeah, like fuck up, which, by the way,
Speaker 3: I had to sweep the Internet of all my personal stuff.
Speaker 3: Oh really yeah, because somebody was calling my voicemail and
Speaker 3: jerking off into it.
Speaker 2: Gear No.
Speaker 1: Was he talking? Yes? Yes, and Quinn.
Speaker 2: Nope, Katie, it's been It was recent.
Speaker 3: It was like right after and How We Roll episode aired,
Speaker 3: and an unknown number started ringing, and I quickly picked
Speaker 3: up because I was like, it's definitely my mother, although
Speaker 3: my mother never has an unown number. It's just like
Speaker 3: whenever I'm in something, the minute it's done airing East Coast,
Speaker 3: I'm the first and only.
Speaker 2: Person to call is my mother?
Speaker 1: Is your mom?
Speaker 3: So I pick up and it's like your fucking ass
Speaker 3: like this and the other thing talking about my butt,
Speaker 3: talking about my body, talking about me, and like getting
Speaker 3: heavier and heavier and heever, and I got scared and
Speaker 3: I quickly hung up. And then they called again and
Speaker 3: I picked up and it was the guy again, and
Speaker 3: then I hung up and I didn't know what to do.
Speaker 3: And then they called again and I hand the phone
Speaker 3: to Adam, and Adam picks up and he's like.
Speaker 2: Who the fuck is this?
Speaker 3: You know, da da da da da leave my wife alone,
Speaker 3: blah blah blah blah. And then I get a million
Speaker 3: missed calls from that number and then a million voice
Speaker 3: Oh my mail left with the person finishing and all
Speaker 3: of that, and Adam is being like so old school
Speaker 3: traditional it was actually kind of cute. He's like, you're
Speaker 3: not listening to this. This is absolute, this is disgusting listening.
Speaker 1: He's like, I gotta listen to it one more time,
Speaker 1: just to make sure.
Speaker 3: But I hired like professional companies like go over the
Speaker 3: Internet and erase, like my phone number was google able.
Speaker 1: Oh shit.
Speaker 2: Then it started this whole barrage of like very weird
Speaker 2: phone calls.
Speaker 3: Anyway, I have a new number people, if you're trying
Speaker 3: to find me.
Speaker 2: Good law. It was great. We will be back with
Speaker 2: more after the break.
Speaker 3: This episode, besides you being held in the kris agone
Speaker 3: under the Patriot Act, we also have that Fits is
Speaker 3: still unconscious in the hospital and Melly has gone ahead
Speaker 3: and forged his signature, which she claims she's been forging
Speaker 3: and do perfectly since he was governor and everyone thinks
Speaker 3: that he's awake and fully functioning, and Olivia and Cyrus
Speaker 3: and Melly are doing all that they can to sort
Speaker 3: of keep up the facade that he's awake and fine,
Speaker 3: and they're yes, and the President becomes our client. While
Speaker 3: you're getting the shit kicked down. Yes, Olivia comes in
Speaker 3: and says, we have a new client. And the client
Speaker 3: that we're working on is trying to throw the press
Speaker 3: off that like he is alive, He's fine.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I love when Olivia gets word that Fits is alive.
Speaker 1: That scene where she goes to the hospital and she's
Speaker 1: wearing those fucking white gloves that literally go up to
Speaker 1: her biceps, and she's fucking she's.
Speaker 3: Like sort of smiley, and she wait to see him
Speaker 3: and she's in a she's in a really beautiful cashmere
Speaker 3: sweater and these long gloves and then she goes in
Speaker 3: and she's.
Speaker 1: Like and she's like, this motherfucker is not awake. What
Speaker 1: did you do?
Speaker 2: What did you do?
Speaker 1: Dude? But those gloves are Dorothy Gospar gloves. That's the designer.
Speaker 1: I fucking talk about a deep dive. I went looking
Speaker 1: for that ship and I found it.
Speaker 2: You're a dream boat.
Speaker 1: And and it also had this whole write up thing
Speaker 1: where Lynn Paolo was interviewed about those gloves and that scene,
Speaker 1: and she said that Carry and her first were sort
Speaker 1: of hesitant, like, you know, this is such an intense scene.
Speaker 1: She's going to see it's in the hospital. She thinks
Speaker 1: he's awake for the first time. Would she be wearing
Speaker 1: these long, you know, fashionable, luxurious gloves and they were like, yep,
Speaker 1: it's Olivia Pope. She always has like that fashion sense.
Speaker 1: She always looks good no matter what.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that stuck out to me.
Speaker 3: In this episode two when Edison is like, you haven't
Speaker 3: been home in two days, I'm like, she looks this
Speaker 3: great and hers are so put together when she hasn't
Speaker 3: been home or brushed her teeth or taking a shower, Like,
Speaker 3: what would be haggard?
Speaker 1: I'm haggard right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so fucking haggard.
Speaker 3: Sally knows that they're lying. It's so fun to see
Speaker 3: Kate Burton in the Oval office acting as the president,
Speaker 3: you know, like she's moved around photographs, she's put in
Speaker 3: her own personal ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she fits a dusty old ship, as she calls it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. And Mellie's all like that was a
Speaker 2: president from Bush Senior.
Speaker 1: But okay, whatever, it's okay, we'll be back soon enough.
Speaker 1: Ye uh huh.
Speaker 3: I just think this episode it's so fucking chock full.
Speaker 3: We have James who has quit being a reporter because
Speaker 3: he's sitting patiently waiting for a baby, yes, which Cyrus
Speaker 3: is sort of hanging over his head, you know, like
Speaker 3: they have a back and forth like a carrot rabbit
Speaker 3: scenes where you know, James is like, I'm going to
Speaker 3: publish that the president isn't really awake and Jeff is like.
Speaker 2: Well, then you're not getting your fucking baby.
Speaker 1: Yeah, your fucking baby, your fat baby?
Speaker 2: Yes? What other things stuck out to you in this
Speaker 2: app Oh?
Speaker 1: Then the David Rosen when he goes and tells Olivia
Speaker 1: about Huck, She's like, they're torturing the fuck out of him.
Speaker 1: But he did speak and he did say something. He said,
Speaker 1: the person that shot fits is not done if the
Speaker 1: president is still alive.
Speaker 2: Oh wait, did you shoot all that torturing thing in
Speaker 2: one day?
Speaker 1: Yeah? We shot all that stuff in one day. Yeah.
Speaker 3: But the so the waterboarding getting your because it kind
Speaker 3: of accelerates. They go from like they start the episode
Speaker 3: where they're waterboarding you, and then it moves into like
Speaker 3: they're punching the.
Speaker 2: Sheet in at you.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, and then they even like turn you on
Speaker 3: your side and they're like scalpeling you.
Speaker 1: Yeah. She's like kicking him, right, They're like kicking the
Speaker 1: shit out of them.
Speaker 2: Oh my god? How did was there someone there blocking that?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: Was that all fight ship?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean our our our stunt coordinator was there.
Speaker 3: What I learned from Scandal is that I don't like action. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Like I like playing a bad ass. Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 3: These interviews of like I just listen to Emily Blunt
Speaker 3: on SmartLess or something, and she's like, you know how
Speaker 3: much she loved like training and doing some big thing
Speaker 3: with Tom Cruise and all that all my No, I
Speaker 3: want to do sense and sensibility.
Speaker 2: I want to walk and talk. I want a West Wing,
Speaker 2: big ass fucking.
Speaker 3: Monologue where I'm walking and I'm talking very fast, or
Speaker 3: I'm sitting and I'm drinking a tea or I'm falling
Speaker 3: to my knees and I'm crying or something like that.
Speaker 3: Like that's all fine. I don't want to be doing this. Okay, Wait,
Speaker 3: what else is happening in this episode. David Rosen is
Speaker 3: very much on your side, and I feel like this
Speaker 3: whole episode he's like, God, Josh Melyda, what a dick.
Speaker 2: He's really good.
Speaker 1: He is really good.
Speaker 3: He's really good, and he's the only person that's like,
Speaker 3: this is not okay, yeah, what we're doing to this person.
Speaker 3: And so he sort of really makes it his mission
Speaker 3: in this episode to go to Olivia and figure out
Speaker 3: how to get Huck out of there. And my god, Gamo,
Speaker 3: so you shot the torturing all in one day, and
Speaker 3: then when they finally let you out and they just
Speaker 3: threw you out on the side of a street and
Speaker 3: Olivia goes to sort of maybe put her arm around you,
Speaker 3: and you just shy away like a dog that's been
Speaker 3: like kick the shit out of one too many times
Speaker 3: and can't receive any touch from another human.
Speaker 2: Whatsoever?
Speaker 1: Got that PTSD from that shit? Yeah? I love that scene.
Speaker 1: I love that scene. But also I was like, how
Speaker 1: the fuck, Like, I'm so like, I'm a little guy.
Speaker 1: I'm like skinny in this episode, I'm little. I'm like
Speaker 1: I would have talked from the first slap across my face,
Speaker 1: I would have been like I did. I don't know
Speaker 1: who did it? Like what the fuck? Like a Huck
Speaker 1: is a little guy, you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 1: I'm like, this motherfucker, do.
Speaker 2: That shit your body? It's about your mental capacity?
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, what you can take? Yeah.
Speaker 3: And when Sally Langston finally decides to let Huck out
Speaker 3: because all the motherfuckers who are being the shit out
Speaker 3: of you get called in with Olivia Pope thanks to
Speaker 3: Josh Molina's thanks to David Rosen into the Oval office
Speaker 3: and they're like, this guy's not talking. Here's an entire
Speaker 3: pamphlet on why this dude is the way this dude is.
Speaker 2: And she gets to like two pages where.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like, read page four and five.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and she yes, Kate Burton's entire face changes. What
Speaker 3: do you think she read on them about Huck?
Speaker 1: That was such a great moment for her as an
Speaker 1: actor because her face completely changes and it makes you think,
Speaker 1: what the fuck did she just read? Right?
Speaker 3: Well, all I can think of was like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: you murdered the most wanted or the most high profile
Speaker 3: political terrorists whatever.
Speaker 2: I don't know what do you think was on those pages?
Speaker 1: Same? I got super morbid. I was like she did.
Speaker 1: She read like that he skinned somebody, like somebody like
Speaker 1: a really bad sort of you.
Speaker 2: Know, like like the worst yeah, like the work in something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or caused them to have like a heart attack
Speaker 1: just by like talking to them or doing some crazy
Speaker 1: shit to them. I don't know. I just went to
Speaker 1: a real, real, well complete you know, to the dark side.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like Saw five or whatever.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I never watch.
Speaker 3: So she says, to let you out, and then we
Speaker 3: have that moment where Olivia picks you up on the
Speaker 3: side of the street, but you're you're on a mission.
Speaker 2: You're like, we don't have time.
Speaker 3: We don't have time because I'm the only person that
Speaker 3: knows that if the President is not dead yet, that
Speaker 3: Becky's not done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and heh he knows. At this point, Huck knows
Speaker 1: that Becky is one of him. They're the same, you know,
Speaker 1: they've come from the same world. He knows what she's
Speaker 1: capable of, and she's not gonna stop you.
Speaker 3: Right, And so they do this whole ploy of their
Speaker 3: like we're going to move the body to Camp David
Speaker 3: and Olivia's yeah, they're going to move to the body
Speaker 3: to Camp David and Sally and everyone's like they're fucking
Speaker 3: moving the body to Camp David because this is all
Speaker 3: still bullshit.
Speaker 2: He's not awake.
Speaker 3: How long can they keep this rue going or whatever
Speaker 3: the hell? At the meantime, Oh my god, I love
Speaker 3: this scene. We haven't talked about it.
Speaker 2: And then we'll get back to the Camp David in
Speaker 2: the ending.
Speaker 3: But when Edison shows up at the hospital, oh yeah,
Speaker 3: gets in Olivia's face and is like, you're fucking lying
Speaker 3: to me.
Speaker 2: This is treason. You will be held in court.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know, blah blah blah, and she's like fuck no.
Speaker 1: She gets so angry.
Speaker 3: Yet Olivia is like, goodbye Lidson, and you see that
Speaker 3: she's like literally choosing a dead VI who will even
Speaker 3: speak over senator putting.
Speaker 1: She's choosing vegetable fits over a senator putting pop. YEP,
Speaker 1: that's exactly right.
Speaker 2: I feel so bad for norm Lewis's run in this show.
Speaker 2: I just do. I mean, look, anyone who got cast
Speaker 2: to oppose the Olitz relationship.
Speaker 1: Yeah is done for. Ed is done for. Yeah. But
Speaker 1: you could also you could feel Olivia's energy around him,
Speaker 1: and she's just not into him. You can feel it.
Speaker 1: The audience feels it. She's feeling it, like nobody wants
Speaker 1: them to be together. No, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I love that scene earlier in the episode where he's like,
Speaker 1: you have at least say hello to me. When she's like,
Speaker 1: what did you find out about you know, about hook
Speaker 1: or whatever, He's like your day. Yeah, And then towards
Speaker 1: the end of that scene, she's like, okay, fine, let's
Speaker 1: make let's have sex. And they started out was like, oh,
Speaker 1: they're going to fuck row. She's like, all right, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give you a mercy fuck real quick, so you
Speaker 1: could shut up. But she's so not into him. She
Speaker 1: does so does not want them.
Speaker 3: This is sort of their ending. I mean, I feel
Speaker 3: like through like that's their breakup. He's like, if you
Speaker 3: don't come clean to me, and she's like goodbye Edison,
Speaker 3: and he knows she's lying, and she knows that she's
Speaker 3: not going to give up the information, and it's just over.
Speaker 1: I wonder how many more episodes he did after this.
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess, well, we'll find out, we'll find
Speaker 3: out watch podcasts, and we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: As we unpacked this toolbox. That's where I find out.
Speaker 3: So you're on so we set this whole fake thing
Speaker 3: up that the body is going to move to Camp David.
Speaker 3: And also Abby and them have found a burner phone
Speaker 3: in Hollis's desk with only one number that's been called repeatedly,
Speaker 3: and it's Becky's.
Speaker 1: It's Becky's number.
Speaker 3: And so Becky goes to the roof, which has perfect
Speaker 3: access to be able to sniper shoot the body and
Speaker 3: finish the deal is being carted and moved to Camp David.
Speaker 2: But what happens James and.
Speaker 1: Huck scopes it out. He's you know, you see a
Speaker 1: shot of him looking around. He's like, all right, that's
Speaker 1: the spot where she's gonna go and and shoot and finish.
Speaker 1: Fits off. And then there's that scene with Huck and
Speaker 1: Olivia where they're standing side by side and she gives
Speaker 1: him that number, that Becky number, yep, And so you know,
Speaker 1: a couple of moments happened. And then he's up on
Speaker 1: the roof. We see Becky up on the roof getting
Speaker 1: her rifle ready, and he calls her on that Berna
Speaker 1: phone and she picks up yeah, and he's like, hi, Becky,
Speaker 1: and she turns around. Oh, it's such a cool moment
Speaker 1: and he's got and he's got the gun pointed at her,
Speaker 1: and she's like, if I take up my gun, you're
Speaker 1: gonna put four bullets in me, aren't you? And he
Speaker 1: said five. One for the dog, which is the title
Speaker 1: of this episode because in the previous episode Becky right.
Speaker 3: Yeahs, fucking idiot, one for the dog. But you're talking
Speaker 3: about out the whole family and the dog that you shot.
Speaker 1: The previous that you watch.
Speaker 4: Yea Bey kills smart, I know, I know, but one
Speaker 4: for the dog, and everybody can relate to that, you know,
Speaker 4: because you like people have such you know, they're like
Speaker 4: your family, your fucking pets.
Speaker 1: Yes, anyway, So he fucking tells the one for the dog,
Speaker 1: and then the fucking the swat team swarms them and
Speaker 1: takes them both down, And I thought, why are they
Speaker 1: taking Huck down? Didn't they know he was there to
Speaker 1: like save the day and and find the person that
Speaker 1: actually shot fits, Like, what the fuck is happening?
Speaker 3: Well, I guess they threw them down, I know, but
Speaker 3: it's like, you're not out of custody untilled. The deal
Speaker 3: was that Olivia, and you had to deliver that's right,
Speaker 3: the assassin. So I guess until they knew for sure
Speaker 3: that Becky was Becky and all of that, they weren't
Speaker 3: going to take any chances. But so you get flung
Speaker 3: on the ground, handcuffed, arms behind your back, so does Becky,
Speaker 3: and it's a really cool shot where you're like head
Speaker 3: to head but your bodies are on the opposite side.
Speaker 3: And she's like, Kate, that's my real name, and then
Speaker 3: you're and she's like, what's yours?
Speaker 1: And he's like does it matter, which is in the
Speaker 1: previous episode, Huck asked her her name after they have sex,
Speaker 1: and she says does it matter? And he sort of,
Speaker 1: you know, he clocks out as a bit of a
Speaker 1: red flag where he's like, oh, she's not really care
Speaker 1: about something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like she's not really investing in this.
Speaker 1: So he gives it back to her name. Yeah, And so.
Speaker 3: You sort of get yours, and you get even in
Speaker 3: this moment and they have Becky and Sally Langston is
Speaker 3: able to make her big you know thing out on
Speaker 3: you know out she she does a huge speech from
Speaker 3: the Oval office to the American people saying that the
Speaker 3: assassin has been caught, and then at the same time
Speaker 3: they release you to Olivia Pope's custody and you get
Speaker 3: brought back into o Pa where we're all fucking eating
Speaker 3: Chinese food, which, by the way, what the fuck is
Speaker 3: Quinn doing?
Speaker 2: Like I can't did you see me the beginning of
Speaker 2: the scene, I'm just saying, scarfing Chinese?
Speaker 1: You are, We're probably so hungry and excited to.
Speaker 2: Eat it, yet you haven't been dropped off yet. We're
Speaker 2: watching this the address that Sally Langsy is giving to
Speaker 2: the American people, and.
Speaker 3: Everyone's rips the screen and what are you doing eating?
Speaker 2: I'm just fucking face planted into the Chinese takeout container
Speaker 2: and I'm just fucking eating.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, wow, Quinn really like eats her problems.
Speaker 3: And then I'm like, why.
Speaker 2: Did they use a take?
Speaker 3: Because you knew there were other takes in there where
Speaker 3: I was also looking at the.
Speaker 1: I think about that ship all the time. But you
Speaker 1: know what, the camera move was like super slick and
Speaker 1: it was perfect, and that's why they.
Speaker 2: Where it looks like Quinn is just a fucking.
Speaker 1: Idiots face planted in the food. But also, Katie, remember
Speaker 1: we'd have moments where we have scenes like that. We
Speaker 1: were all together where we couldn't stop laughing. So I
Speaker 1: wonder if you had your face down because you just
Speaker 1: make my contact to people exactly, and you were just like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep my ship down, yeah, because I don't
Speaker 1: want to lose it.
Speaker 2: That's so funny.
Speaker 3: We used to have to do so many scenes where
Speaker 3: we would literally have to look down and avoid eye
Speaker 3: contact with each other because the gables were so bad
Speaker 3: and the crew is going to kill us.
Speaker 1: Oh, it was the worst.
Speaker 2: So we're look cheese food.
Speaker 3: I feel like I was eating a fucking lo maine,
Speaker 3: which is just delicious. Who doesn't Who doesn't love a
Speaker 3: fucking low Maine? And you get dropped off and and
Speaker 3: and it's you're so battered, your face is so fucked up,
Speaker 3: and it's the first time that.
Speaker 2: The whole o PA has seen you.
Speaker 3: And you come and you take off your jacket and
Speaker 3: it seems like so painful because so fucked up. And
Speaker 3: you sit down.
Speaker 1: And Quinn is like, welcome home. Oh. I love that
Speaker 1: he gives her a look like it's just such a
Speaker 1: such a dead pan look, not even a thank you
Speaker 1: or whatever. He's just like, yeah, bitch, I'm hu.
Speaker 2: It's just like welcome home. Like what is you supposed
Speaker 2: to say in this like right, completely insane, and it's
Speaker 2: so low and again, I feel like it's just just
Speaker 2: such a good job of like satisfying that thing of
Speaker 2: like the OPA people like, as weird and as fucked
Speaker 2: up as their jobs are or their individual lives, like
Speaker 2: when they come together at that conference table, they're just
Speaker 2: such a family.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know that conference table I've told you. I
Speaker 3: don't know if I've told you on this podcast, but
Speaker 3: that conference tables in Shondaland office.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, thank god, We'll be right back, guys.
Speaker 2: And the episode ends Olivia's sitting on the couch in
Speaker 2: her office and Quinn comes in. I hate my outfit.
Speaker 1: You had that tight ass, fucking my cat pencil skirt.
Speaker 3: Why did she tailor them above my knee? And I
Speaker 3: always wish they were over my knee. I feel like
Speaker 3: that would have looked more flattering. But Whin pallows the
Speaker 3: professional and she and.
Speaker 2: Then I'm wearing this pink button down that's like and
Speaker 2: tucked into the pencil skirt.
Speaker 3: My god, if I had to slam my body into
Speaker 3: something like that these days, I would just say no.
Speaker 3: I would just say oh God. But Quinn walks in
Speaker 3: and she's like, what the fuck, Like we know Hollis
Speaker 3: is the person who blew Upsidetron.
Speaker 2: He killed my ex boyfriend.
Speaker 1: Yeah, ruined life.
Speaker 2: He ruined my life. And now we know that he
Speaker 2: hired Becky to kill the president and you're still doing
Speaker 2: nothing about it. I want what is going on? Give
Speaker 2: me answers? And she's like, you want to talk? Okay, come,
Speaker 2: let's talk. And I sit down. I'm like, holy shit,
Speaker 2: she's gonna talk.
Speaker 1: She's gonna talk.
Speaker 2: And then it's like.
Speaker 3: And she picks up the phone and Fit says I.
Speaker 2: She says hi, and she can't believe it because he's
Speaker 2: fucking away.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's awake.
Speaker 2: Times was she shot in the head?
Speaker 1: God? I don't remember. Was it two or three?
Speaker 2: There's no maybe survives that?
Speaker 3: Although, oh no, is it fucking possible to be shot
Speaker 3: in the head ahead and survive.
Speaker 1: But you gotta be real lucky to be shot in
Speaker 1: the head and still be able to live and have
Speaker 1: all your shit working correctly, Like you got to be
Speaker 1: a lucky.
Speaker 3: And then like have sex with Olivia Pope and a
Speaker 3: million other people in this series for the next seven seasons.
Speaker 1: But how easy was this episode for Tony? Huh? Like
Speaker 1: that's a that was a dream, like he just had
Speaker 1: to lay in the hospital done that. I think I
Speaker 1: had to do it. Remember Huck was in the in
Speaker 1: the hospital bed. I think I did a whole episode
Speaker 1: like that too. I think you did.
Speaker 3: I had to get I had multiple times where I've
Speaker 3: had to act with you in a hospital bed coming
Speaker 3: to my memory right now, or where I've had to
Speaker 3: like get in the hospital bed and like hold you
Speaker 3: or you were holding me like.
Speaker 1: I don't remember if that was a whole episode that
Speaker 1: I was in the hospital or or for it was
Speaker 1: the ending of that episode where I'm Unhuck is like underwater,
Speaker 1: you know, goes underwater with his car and then he
Speaker 1: has to get out and all that shit.
Speaker 2: I've never done that.
Speaker 1: No, I'd be afraid that i'd like fart in my sleep.
Speaker 2: Well, now that we've talked a lot about that, you're
Speaker 2: a sleep.
Speaker 1: Farterer, damn it right.
Speaker 2: You would be. Everybody would be in trouble.
Speaker 3: Did you ever fall asleep in the hospital scenes that
Speaker 3: you shot in Scandal when you were in the hot No, I.
Speaker 1: Don't think so. I don't think I did. I don't
Speaker 1: remember falling asleep. Uh, I'm a professional.
Speaker 3: Fits got paid the big bucks for this episode because
Speaker 3: not only was he asleep, but in the whole episode,
Speaker 3: he only has.
Speaker 2: One line and it just happens to be one fucking
Speaker 2: word yes, and it's yeah.
Speaker 1: I just want to shout out some of our reporter
Speaker 1: guest stars. There's a bunch of them, and there's one
Speaker 1: that has done did I think he did a bunch
Speaker 1: of our Scandal episodes. His name is Jay Jackson. He's
Speaker 1: the male reporter.
Speaker 2: Oh he's so good.
Speaker 1: Remember he was at our final table. Remember he there.
Speaker 1: I guess he had some lines in that episode and
Speaker 1: they brought him on. But I looked him up and
Speaker 1: it said he's played a news anchor or a reporter
Speaker 1: twenty eight times in his career.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, Wow, that guy must
Speaker 2: get a breakdown for a reporter from his agents and
Speaker 2: be like, everyone just go home.
Speaker 1: Talk about type right, I'm a bucket of shit. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: I played twenty eight thugs and drug dealers, and even
Speaker 1: more than that. When I got podcasts in a whole different.
Speaker 2: Way, I played twenty eight Girl next Doors, Girl next
Speaker 2: I mean I think, oh no, no, I've played some
Speaker 2: you know, the only things I've shown. My son has
Speaker 2: not seen like anything I've done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's still a little too young, right, he's too little. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So like you can't engage or want to watch right right?
Speaker 3: And he's like yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm like they pretend
Speaker 3: for a living. It's fucking weird.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but we were laughing.
Speaker 3: Adam and I like a year ago and I and
Speaker 3: he saw a few minutes of my ghost whisper, so yeah,
Speaker 3: and he was scarred.
Speaker 2: He was a bad guy. Why are you Because I
Speaker 2: was saying, I only play girl next door. That's not true.
Speaker 3: I love playing any fucking psychopath. Like I played a
Speaker 3: ghost that was like a murderer.
Speaker 2: That was like I'm coming for you, like yeah, and
Speaker 2: he saw it. He was terrified.
Speaker 1: Aren't you in that episode? Two? Aren't you wet the
Speaker 1: whole episode?
Speaker 3: Because a ghost whisper for all your ghosts whisper fans
Speaker 3: out there. If you die in the episode, that's how
Speaker 3: your ghost exists the whole rest of the episode. So
Speaker 3: my character drowned. So I was soaking wet for nine days.
Speaker 3: They would hose me down before every scene and I
Speaker 3: would open my mouth and they rigged like a hose.
Speaker 3: That water would just come pouring out of my mouth
Speaker 3: before I was able to start speaking.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: What the though, Oh yeah, it's fine. I had to
Speaker 1: get hose down like that too for that one episode
Speaker 1: where I'm f and wet every morning, they'd hoes me down.
Speaker 2: Oh, oh my god. Remember I had the episode We're
Speaker 2: Oh my.
Speaker 1: God, that's the worst, but also so j Jackson. Katie
Speaker 1: was also a news anchor on Inventing Anna.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: This guy, this motherfucker is doing it.
Speaker 2: Not auditioned against this guy if it's a news reporter,
Speaker 2: because you're not getting it.
Speaker 1: All right, y'all, let's get into our favorite.
Speaker 2: Tweet to tweet to tweet tweets tweets at a time
Speaker 2: tweets tweeted.
Speaker 3: Tweets one trill being on January fourteenth of twenty thirteen,
Speaker 3: Columbus Short is so sexy. He was really sexy in
Speaker 3: this episode.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I miss him.
Speaker 3: And in this episode when he's like, they have to
Speaker 3: get the into Hollis Oyle's office to see if there's
Speaker 3: a burner phone that Verna thinks she saw, and you know,
Speaker 3: Harrison has to do this sort of like smooth talking
Speaker 3: to Hollis dumb ass Texan blonde assistant, and he's so
Speaker 3: smooth as per usual. Also, oh my god, from this tweet,
Speaker 3: one of my favorite scenes of this episode is when Columbus,
Speaker 3: you know, we're sitting me, Darby and Harrison are sitting
Speaker 3: in the in the conference room and we're all like,
Speaker 3: He's like, we can't mess with this. This is these
Speaker 3: are the things that go bump to the night, and
Speaker 3: this is crazier than anything we've ever dealt with. Like,
Speaker 3: we don't know where Huck is, we don't know about Hollis,
Speaker 3: we can't call this number, Like this is the real
Speaker 3: underground DC that none of us know. We can't mess
Speaker 3: with dark shit. And the way that he delivers that
Speaker 3: little mini monologue as per usual is just such.
Speaker 1: He really is. He's so good. He's so good and
Speaker 1: flipping that phone and then flipping that phone at the end.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's so cool.
Speaker 1: Another tweet from scorpo At caught you staring. Oh that's
Speaker 1: a good one. That's a good handle. He says, love
Speaker 1: can be your greatest weakness, Huck, let love cloud his judgment. Hell, yeah,
Speaker 1: you could say that again. We all know that was it?
Speaker 2: Love or was it his donk?
Speaker 1: I think it was his donk first, and then he
Speaker 1: probably started to catch the feels, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Did have feelings for Becky and think that it could
Speaker 2: be a thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's how I played it and how I
Speaker 1: felt it as a.
Speaker 3: Despine Okay, then we have this is it? At Noanz
Speaker 3: tweeted it's official. I can't predict Shonda Rhime's next move
Speaker 3: in Scandal. Yeah no, nobody could. I've done it, I've
Speaker 3: shot it, and I've watched it multiple times, and I
Speaker 3: still can't predict when things are happening.
Speaker 1: Beverly Gooden says still funny at Scandal, Edison need to chill.
Speaker 1: Clearly he hasn't had a relevant woman before Insecure. Oh shit,
Speaker 1: they're getting shady on his ass.
Speaker 2: Fans were not with Edison. They not.
Speaker 3: The fans were not with Edison. That girl Philippa at
Speaker 3: Philippa ninety HEV says, ooh, Shandaraim, stop selling me that
Speaker 3: good to be true kind of romance. Love me some scandal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and another one says Columbus Short is sexy. I
Speaker 1: just wanted to say that again.
Speaker 2: He's columb Columbus Short is sexy Columbus short is so
Speaker 2: fucking sexy.
Speaker 3: What is this huge ass photo of you that Aaron
Speaker 3: p WV wrote.
Speaker 2: Bob Maluga Luga Luga, luga luga, hashtag big huck on
Speaker 2: campus at Heather rn Brooks, He's back hashtag scandal with
Speaker 2: a big picture of Hagrid Hock. So we don't know
Speaker 2: what the hell this means. But it's literally a picture
Speaker 2: of Hagrid Hawk and it just says, Bob Maluga Luga luga.
Speaker 1: I do look kind of cute in that picture.
Speaker 2: Though, I think you look as durable. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: I think again.
Speaker 1: Being homeless, HOWK was the worst because I couldn't eat.
Speaker 1: That was the hardest part of being fucking homeless, HOWK,
Speaker 1: because I had to have that beard on glued on
Speaker 1: my face all day and that wig.
Speaker 3: And how did you feel about being neody for the
Speaker 3: torture scenes. Had you been on like some big ass
Speaker 3: cleanse for that.
Speaker 1: No, I think I had already. I had already. Remember,
Speaker 1: I stopped sort of eating bread for a while, so
Speaker 1: I had gotten like super thin. So I was like whatever,
Speaker 1: I was feeling good. I wasn't even thinking about that shit.
Speaker 3: Next week's episode is called a criminal, a whore, an idiot,
Speaker 3: and a liar.
Speaker 2: Do you remember what the hell's that about?
Speaker 1: You know what? That's a line that Olivia says, because
Speaker 1: she says it to Edison. I think that's where she
Speaker 1: officially breaks up with him, where she says, you have
Speaker 1: called me a criminal, a whore, and a liar. It's over.
Speaker 2: I think let's see next week.
Speaker 1: If next week, y'all got to tune in.
Speaker 3: Guys got to tune in to make sure if Germo
Speaker 3: guessed right that that's who got that line in the app.
Speaker 2: Please listen to the scale.
Speaker 1: If you feel depressed, down in the dumps, not feeling.
Speaker 2: Like a psychopath, like a crazy person.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta come to Yeah, get your facts right.
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Speaker 1: Or whatever it is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and we'll we'll figure out who said.
Speaker 2: That and why.
Speaker 1: Yeah and again you guys.
Speaker 2: Come listen. We love you guys.
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