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Speaker 1: Unpacking the Toolbox is a production of Shondaland Audio in

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Speaker 1: partnership with higheartradioshas Katie.

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Speaker 2: Gee.

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Speaker 3: You know what's so cool about you being a stoner?

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Speaker 3: I have to say you have such an amazing.

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Speaker 2: Work ethic around it.

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Speaker 3: First of all, let it be known here and first

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Speaker 3: and foremost. I worked with Germo every single day almost

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Speaker 3: for seven years straight. You have never come to Workstone,

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Speaker 3: You would never. That's your worst night can't like it's

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Speaker 3: your worst nightmare. It scares the shit at you.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I would never. But part of me wishes

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Speaker 1: I could function at work and be behigh. But there's

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Speaker 1: no way, there's no way.

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Speaker 3: I'm too as I've never crossed that line. But are

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Speaker 3: someone that like when you.

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Speaker 1: Come home from the work day, Hell yeah.

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Speaker 2: It's like I'm gonna smoke to like take the edge

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Speaker 2: off and like whatever.

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Speaker 3: But I feel like most people would get pretty muddy there,

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Speaker 3: and it's like just.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I know that there's some big actors like

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Speaker 1: I know Eddie Murphy, I've heard does it Eject Nicholson

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Speaker 1: Like they're constantly stoned on set like you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, butson Ford.

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Speaker 1: Paris and Ford too, But their work is Stellar. You

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Speaker 1: know what I mean, it doesn't affect their work, and

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Speaker 1: that's a that's a special breed. I can't do that shit.

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Speaker 2: Well, let it be a set.

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Speaker 3: But like I've never been fucked up. It's I've never

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Speaker 3: been Scandal. No no, no, no, no no no. I just

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Speaker 3: my memory went back to on Scandal. Because I was

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Speaker 3: the youngest of the series regulars, they used to give

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Speaker 3: me the last shot of the night on a Friday,

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Speaker 3: and I would get called into work at ten pm

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Speaker 3: to shoot like at midnight and be wrapped by two am.

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Speaker 3: And one time I was not drunk by any means,

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Speaker 3: but I had a beer on my deck and then

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Speaker 2: But I had a beer, and I was.

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Speaker 3: Like completely fucking goodie two shoe like horrified that I

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Speaker 3: have done that. I was just like, oh my god,

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Speaker 3: how could I have had a fucking beer.

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Speaker 2: First of all, it's a fucking beer, Like if you

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Speaker 2: shoot in Europe or you shoot in England, so many

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Speaker 2: people have beer or wine with lunch in the middle

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Speaker 3: Like since then, now that I've grown up and I'm

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Speaker 3: not little baby bitch. When we shot Inventing Anna and

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Speaker 3: we shot in Morocco, and we were with a foreign

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Speaker 3: it was wonderful. Like I was like, why does this

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Speaker 3: seem so fun? So I was never drunk on scandal.

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Speaker 3: But I have to say when we did the Broadway

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Speaker 3: and Adam and I did Waitress.

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Speaker 2: For some reason, when.

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Speaker 3: You do a musical, a lot of people take like

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Speaker 3: or an intermission to sort of like warm up their chords,

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Speaker 3: because whiskey makes your chords feel like really lubricated and

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Speaker 2: And I'm not gonna lie.

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Speaker 3: My character I played had so much heavy lifting in

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Speaker 3: the first act. I've never done it for the first act.

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Speaker 3: But the second act, Dawn is really not around that much.

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Speaker 3: And so I remember there were a couple of the

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Speaker 1: I was like a little bit.

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Speaker 3: It's no way shape form, yeah yeah, like a light

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Speaker 3: buzz yeah. And it was a blast, and I thought

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Speaker 1: Of course I did a movie with Mario con Chito

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Speaker 1: Alonzo and she while we were downtime, while they were

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Speaker 2: You feel like you were the best actor ever?

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Speaker 1: You lose your inhibitions. But I also didn't do that

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Speaker 2: No, non, no, like are you joking? Of course you

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Speaker 3: You never and you're such a stoner. I always loved

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Speaker 3: that you were so like, you're just very disciplined. You're

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Speaker 3: oh yeah, this fucking episode right, I just rewatched and

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Speaker 3: had to I close my eyes for a lot of

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Speaker 3: it because I cannot handle what they're doing to you.

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Speaker 2: I cannot. It's horrific. It's not okay, Like I can't

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Speaker 1: You believe that shit.

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Speaker 2: I don't even care about what happens to rest of

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Speaker 3: I mean I do, but I just want to hear

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Speaker 2: Like I can't watch it. I don't know if it's

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Speaker 2: because I love you so much as a friend or I.

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Speaker 3: Love hockbody character, but it's really hard to watch. And

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Speaker 3: we're talking about episode two ten one for the Dog,

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Speaker 3: which aired on January tenth, twenty thirteen.

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Speaker 1: It was written by Heather Mitchell and it was directed

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Speaker 1: by Steve Robin.

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Speaker 3: It was guest starring Susie poor Far as Becky Flynn,

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Speaker 3: Brian Lesher as Tom, Wendy Davis is Kimberly Mitchell, Stony

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Speaker 3: Westmoreland is hal Rimbaut, Kavita Patil as President's doctor while

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Speaker 1: And Sam McMurray is the US attorney Pat Wexler, Joe

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's do this synopsis very very quickly, because I

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Speaker 3: like this is the most violent I can't Okay. After

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Speaker 3: the team get to work trying to uncover Hollis's involvement

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Speaker 3: the assassination attempt. But when the word miraculously comes that

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Speaker 3: Fits is awake and ready to reclaim the presidency, Olivia

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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, David Rosen sees the dark side of the government

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Speaker 1: as they torture Huck under the Patriot Act. When Huck talks,

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Speaker 1: Yo, I'm crazy.

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Speaker 2: I cannot watch this fucking episode.

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Speaker 3: I cannot Have you ever been tortured before in any

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Speaker 1: I don't think so, but I remember we had to

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Speaker 1: rehearse the waterboarding. I didn't know about waterboarding. I didn't

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Speaker 1: The the craziest thing about shooting that stuff was that

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Speaker 1: I had to be naked. But they can, you know,

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Speaker 2: Disease. I can't. I cannot. Here's why why if someone's

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Speaker 1: Right? Don't they fuck? You know, to humiliate them? It's

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Speaker 2: I wanted to fucking kill him.

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Speaker 1: Yes. Now, Katie is a Sex and the City fan.

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Speaker 1: He was in a in a Sex in the City episode,

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Speaker 2: Shop completely remember that. And that's the guy.

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Speaker 1: That's the guy. His name is James McDonald. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: Yeah. But also another fun fact that I found that

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Speaker 2: Got the fuck out of here.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that crazy?

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Speaker 2: He grows, So no one gave a fuck about this, dude.

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Speaker 1: Really, Yeah, he did one term and he was out.

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Speaker 3: Who's ever done that, a two term president, but not

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Speaker 3: consecutive exactly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh my crazy shit.

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Speaker 2: Good and related to old guy.

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Speaker 1: To Dick Mold guy, James Jurer.

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Speaker 3: James McDonald take me to the night before the water

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Speaker 3: boarding scene. Are you up all night you can't sleep,

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Speaker 3: You're terrified, or you excited because you love horror movies

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what it seems like this, Katie, I

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Speaker 3: This episode, besides you being held in the kris agone

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Speaker 3: In this episode two when Edison is like, you haven't

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Speaker 3: Sally knows that they're lying. It's so fun to see

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. And Mellie's all like that was a

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Speaker 3: I just think this episode it's so fucking chock full.

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Speaker 2: Well, then you're not getting your fucking baby.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, your fucking baby, your fat baby?

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Speaker 2: Yes? What other things stuck out to you in this

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Speaker 2: Oh wait, did you shoot all that torturing thing in

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Speaker 1: Yeah? We shot all that stuff in one day. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, and then they even like turn you on

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Speaker 1: Yeah. She's like kicking him, right, They're like kicking the

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Speaker 2: Oh my god? How did was there someone there blocking that?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 2: Was that all fight ship?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean our our our stunt coordinator was there.

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Speaker 3: What I learned from Scandal is that I don't like action. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Like I like playing a bad ass. Don't get me wrong.

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Speaker 3: These interviews of like I just listen to Emily Blunt

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Speaker 2: I want to walk and talk. I want a West Wing,

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Speaker 3: Like that's all fine. I don't want to be doing this. Okay, Wait,

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Speaker 2: He's really good.

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Speaker 1: He is really good.

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Speaker 3: so you shot the torturing all in one day, and

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Speaker 2: Whatsoever?

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Speaker 1: I love that scene. But also I was like, how

443
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,800
Speaker 1: the fuck, Like, I'm so like, I'm a little guy.

444
00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,800
Speaker 1: I'm like skinny in this episode, I'm little. I'm like

445
00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,600
Speaker 1: I would have talked from the first slap across my face,

446
00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,840
Speaker 1: I would have been like I did. I don't know

447
00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,760
Speaker 1: who did it? Like what the fuck? Like a Huck

448
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:20,760
Speaker 1: is a little guy, you know what I mean? Like,

449
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:22,359
Speaker 1: I'm like, this motherfucker, do.

450
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,879
Speaker 2: That shit your body? It's about your mental capacity?

451
00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,359
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, what you can take? Yeah.

452
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,800
Speaker 3: And when Sally Langston finally decides to let Huck out

453
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 3: because all the motherfuckers who are being the shit out

454
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,600
Speaker 3: of you get called in with Olivia Pope thanks to

455
00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,840
Speaker 3: Josh Molina's thanks to David Rosen into the Oval office

456
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,480
Speaker 3: and they're like, this guy's not talking. Here's an entire

457
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,719
Speaker 3: pamphlet on why this dude is the way this dude is.

458
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 2: And she gets to like two pages where.

459
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like, read page four and five.

460
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, and she yes, Kate Burton's entire face changes. What

461
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 3: do you think she read on them about Huck?

462
00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,199
Speaker 1: That was such a great moment for her as an

463
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 1: actor because her face completely changes and it makes you think,

464
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,400
Speaker 1: what the fuck did she just read? Right?

465
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,640
Speaker 3: Well, all I can think of was like, oh my god,

466
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:14,400
Speaker 3: you murdered the most wanted or the most high profile

467
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,920
Speaker 3: political terrorists whatever.

468
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,400
Speaker 2: I don't know what do you think was on those pages?

469
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,600
Speaker 1: Same? I got super morbid. I was like she did.

470
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 1: She read like that he skinned somebody, like somebody like

471
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 1: a really bad sort of you.

472
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:34,400
Speaker 2: Know, like like the worst yeah, like the work in something.

473
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, or caused them to have like a heart attack

474
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 1: just by like talking to them or doing some crazy

475
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,639
Speaker 1: shit to them. I don't know. I just went to

476
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 1: a real, real, well complete you know, to the dark side.

477
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, like Saw five or whatever.

478
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I never watch.

479
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,359
Speaker 3: So she says, to let you out, and then we

480
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 3: have that moment where Olivia picks you up on the

481
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,439
Speaker 3: side of the street, but you're you're on a mission.

482
00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 2: You're like, we don't have time.

483
00:22:58,440 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 3: We don't have time because I'm the only person that

484
00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:02,679
Speaker 3: knows that if the President is not dead yet, that

485
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:04,160
Speaker 3: Becky's not done.

486
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, and heh he knows. At this point, Huck knows

487
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 1: that Becky is one of him. They're the same, you know,

488
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,160
Speaker 1: they've come from the same world. He knows what she's

489
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 1: capable of, and she's not gonna stop you.

490
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 3: Right, And so they do this whole ploy of their

491
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,439
Speaker 3: like we're going to move the body to Camp David

492
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 3: and Olivia's yeah, they're going to move to the body

493
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 3: to Camp David and Sally and everyone's like they're fucking

494
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,400
Speaker 3: moving the body to Camp David because this is all

495
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:27,200
Speaker 3: still bullshit.

496
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:28,119
Speaker 2: He's not awake.

497
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 3: How long can they keep this rue going or whatever

498
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 3: the hell? At the meantime, Oh my god, I love

499
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:37,159
Speaker 3: this scene. We haven't talked about it.

500
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 2: And then we'll get back to the Camp David in

501
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 2: the ending.

502
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:43,120
Speaker 3: But when Edison shows up at the hospital, oh yeah,

503
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 3: gets in Olivia's face and is like, you're fucking lying

504
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 3: to me.

505
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 2: This is treason. You will be held in court.

506
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 1: Yeah you know, blah blah blah, and she's like fuck no.

507
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,160
Speaker 1: She gets so angry.

508
00:23:56,240 --> 00:24:00,199
Speaker 3: Yet Olivia is like, goodbye Lidson, and you see that

509
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 3: she's like literally choosing a dead VI who will even

510
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 3: speak over senator putting.

511
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:14,680
Speaker 1: She's choosing vegetable fits over a senator putting pop. YEP,

512
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 1: that's exactly right.

513
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 2: I feel so bad for norm Lewis's run in this show.

514
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 2: I just do. I mean, look, anyone who got cast

515
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 2: to oppose the Olitz relationship.

516
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 1: Yeah is done for. Ed is done for. Yeah. But

517
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 1: you could also you could feel Olivia's energy around him,

518
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 1: and she's just not into him. You can feel it.

519
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 1: The audience feels it. She's feeling it, like nobody wants

520
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 1: them to be together. No, you know what I mean.

521
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 1: I love that scene earlier in the episode where he's like,

522
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 1: you have at least say hello to me. When she's like,

523
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 1: what did you find out about you know, about hook

524
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 1: or whatever, He's like your day. Yeah, And then towards

525
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,880
Speaker 1: the end of that scene, she's like, okay, fine, let's

526
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,159
Speaker 1: make let's have sex. And they started out was like, oh,

527
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 1: they're going to fuck row. She's like, all right, I'm

528
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 1: gonna give you a mercy fuck real quick, so you

529
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 1: could shut up. But she's so not into him. She

530
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: does so does not want them.

531
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 3: This is sort of their ending. I mean, I feel

532
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,679
Speaker 3: like through like that's their breakup. He's like, if you

533
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,959
Speaker 3: don't come clean to me, and she's like goodbye Edison,

534
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,400
Speaker 3: and he knows she's lying, and she knows that she's

535
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 3: not going to give up the information, and it's just over.

536
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 1: I wonder how many more episodes he did after this.

537
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess, well, we'll find out, we'll find

538
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 3: out watch podcasts, and we'll see what happens.

539
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 1: As we unpacked this toolbox. That's where I find out.

540
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 3: So you're on so we set this whole fake thing

541
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 3: up that the body is going to move to Camp David.

542
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 3: And also Abby and them have found a burner phone

543
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 3: in Hollis's desk with only one number that's been called repeatedly,

544
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 3: and it's Becky's.

545
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: It's Becky's number.

546
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,360
Speaker 3: And so Becky goes to the roof, which has perfect

547
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,919
Speaker 3: access to be able to sniper shoot the body and

548
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 3: finish the deal is being carted and moved to Camp David.

549
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,640
Speaker 2: But what happens James and.

550
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 1: Huck scopes it out. He's you know, you see a

551
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 1: shot of him looking around. He's like, all right, that's

552
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 1: the spot where she's gonna go and and shoot and finish.

553
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 1: Fits off. And then there's that scene with Huck and

554
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: Olivia where they're standing side by side and she gives

555
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: him that number, that Becky number, yep, And so you know,

556
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 1: a couple of moments happened. And then he's up on

557
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 1: the roof. We see Becky up on the roof getting

558
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 1: her rifle ready, and he calls her on that Berna

559
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 1: phone and she picks up yeah, and he's like, hi, Becky,

560
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: and she turns around. Oh, it's such a cool moment

561
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:45,120
Speaker 1: and he's got and he's got the gun pointed at her,

562
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 1: and she's like, if I take up my gun, you're

563
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 1: gonna put four bullets in me, aren't you? And he

564
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 1: said five. One for the dog, which is the title

565
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 1: of this episode because in the previous episode Becky right.

566
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 3: Yeahs, fucking idiot, one for the dog. But you're talking

567
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 3: about out the whole family and the dog that you shot.

568
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: The previous that you watch.

569
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 4: Yea Bey kills smart, I know, I know, but one

570
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 4: for the dog, and everybody can relate to that, you know,

571
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 4: because you like people have such you know, they're like

572
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 4: your family, your fucking pets.

573
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,120
Speaker 1: Yes, anyway, So he fucking tells the one for the dog,

574
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: and then the fucking the swat team swarms them and

575
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,479
Speaker 1: takes them both down, And I thought, why are they

576
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: taking Huck down? Didn't they know he was there to

577
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: like save the day and and find the person that

578
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: actually shot fits, Like, what the fuck is happening?

579
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 3: Well, I guess they threw them down, I know, but

580
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 3: it's like, you're not out of custody untilled. The deal

581
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 3: was that Olivia, and you had to deliver that's right,

582
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 3: the assassin. So I guess until they knew for sure

583
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 3: that Becky was Becky and all of that, they weren't

584
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 3: going to take any chances. But so you get flung

585
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 3: on the ground, handcuffed, arms behind your back, so does Becky,

586
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 3: and it's a really cool shot where you're like head

587
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 3: to head but your bodies are on the opposite side.

588
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 3: And she's like, Kate, that's my real name, and then

589
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 3: you're and she's like, what's yours?

590
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: And he's like does it matter, which is in the

591
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 1: previous episode, Huck asked her her name after they have sex,

592
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: and she says does it matter? And he sort of,

593
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 1: you know, he clocks out as a bit of a

594
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 1: red flag where he's like, oh, she's not really care

595
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: about something.

596
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like she's not really investing in this.

597
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: So he gives it back to her name. Yeah, And so.

598
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 3: You sort of get yours, and you get even in

599
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 3: this moment and they have Becky and Sally Langston is

600
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 3: able to make her big you know thing out on

601
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 3: you know out she she does a huge speech from

602
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 3: the Oval office to the American people saying that the

603
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 3: assassin has been caught, and then at the same time

604
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 3: they release you to Olivia Pope's custody and you get

605
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 3: brought back into o Pa where we're all fucking eating

606
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 3: Chinese food, which, by the way, what the fuck is

607
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 3: Quinn doing?

608
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 2: Like I can't did you see me the beginning of

609
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 2: the scene, I'm just saying, scarfing Chinese?

610
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 1: You are, We're probably so hungry and excited to.

611
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 2: Eat it, yet you haven't been dropped off yet. We're

612
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 2: watching this the address that Sally Langsy is giving to

613
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 2: the American people, and.

614
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 3: Everyone's rips the screen and what are you doing eating?

615
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 2: I'm just fucking face planted into the Chinese takeout container

616
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 2: and I'm just fucking eating.

617
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 3: And I'm like, wow, Quinn really like eats her problems.

618
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 3: And then I'm like, why.

619
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 2: Did they use a take?

620
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 3: Because you knew there were other takes in there where

621
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 3: I was also looking at the.

622
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 1: I think about that ship all the time. But you

623
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: know what, the camera move was like super slick and

624
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: it was perfect, and that's why they.

625
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 2: Where it looks like Quinn is just a fucking.

626
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: Idiots face planted in the food. But also, Katie, remember

627
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: we'd have moments where we have scenes like that. We

628
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: were all together where we couldn't stop laughing. So I

629
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: wonder if you had your face down because you just

630
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: make my contact to people exactly, and you were just like,

631
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep my ship down, yeah, because I don't

632
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: want to lose it.

633
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 2: That's so funny.

634
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 3: We used to have to do so many scenes where

635
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 3: we would literally have to look down and avoid eye

636
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 3: contact with each other because the gables were so bad

637
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 3: and the crew is going to kill us.

638
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: Oh, it was the worst.

639
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 2: So we're look cheese food.

640
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 3: I feel like I was eating a fucking lo maine,

641
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 3: which is just delicious. Who doesn't Who doesn't love a

642
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 3: fucking low Maine? And you get dropped off and and

643
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 3: and it's you're so battered, your face is so fucked up,

644
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 3: and it's the first time that.

645
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 2: The whole o PA has seen you.

646
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 3: And you come and you take off your jacket and

647
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 3: it seems like so painful because so fucked up. And

648
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 3: you sit down.

649
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: And Quinn is like, welcome home. Oh. I love that

650
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: he gives her a look like it's just such a

651
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: such a dead pan look, not even a thank you

652
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: or whatever. He's just like, yeah, bitch, I'm hu.

653
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 2: It's just like welcome home. Like what is you supposed

654
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 2: to say in this like right, completely insane, and it's

655
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 2: so low and again, I feel like it's just just

656
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 2: such a good job of like satisfying that thing of

657
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 2: like the OPA people like, as weird and as fucked

658
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 2: up as their jobs are or their individual lives, like

659
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 2: when they come together at that conference table, they're just

660
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 2: such a family.

661
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know that conference table I've told you. I

662
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 3: don't know if I've told you on this podcast, but

663
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 3: that conference tables in Shondaland office.

664
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, thank god, We'll be right back, guys.

665
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 2: And the episode ends Olivia's sitting on the couch in

666
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 2: her office and Quinn comes in. I hate my outfit.

667
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: You had that tight ass, fucking my cat pencil skirt.

668
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 3: Why did she tailor them above my knee? And I

669
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 3: always wish they were over my knee. I feel like

670
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 3: that would have looked more flattering. But Whin pallows the

671
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 3: professional and she and.

672
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 2: Then I'm wearing this pink button down that's like and

673
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 2: tucked into the pencil skirt.

674
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 3: My god, if I had to slam my body into

675
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 3: something like that these days, I would just say no.

676
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 3: I would just say oh God. But Quinn walks in

677
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 3: and she's like, what the fuck, Like we know Hollis

678
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 3: is the person who blew Upsidetron.

679
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 2: He killed my ex boyfriend.

680
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:21,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, ruined life.

681
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 2: He ruined my life. And now we know that he

682
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 2: hired Becky to kill the president and you're still doing

683
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 2: nothing about it. I want what is going on? Give

684
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 2: me answers? And she's like, you want to talk? Okay, come,

685
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 2: let's talk. And I sit down. I'm like, holy shit,

686
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 2: she's gonna talk.

687
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: She's gonna talk.

688
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 2: And then it's like.

689
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 3: And she picks up the phone and Fit says I.

690
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 2: She says hi, and she can't believe it because he's

691
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 2: fucking away.

692
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's awake.

693
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 2: Times was she shot in the head?

694
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: God? I don't remember. Was it two or three?

695
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 2: There's no maybe survives that?

696
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 3: Although, oh no, is it fucking possible to be shot

697
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 3: in the head ahead and survive.

698
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: But you gotta be real lucky to be shot in

699
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: the head and still be able to live and have

700
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: all your shit working correctly, Like you got to be

701
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: a lucky.

702
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 3: And then like have sex with Olivia Pope and a

703
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 3: million other people in this series for the next seven seasons.

704
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: But how easy was this episode for Tony? Huh? Like

705
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,959
Speaker 1: that's a that was a dream, like he just had

706
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: to lay in the hospital done that. I think I

707
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: had to do it. Remember Huck was in the in

708
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: the hospital bed. I think I did a whole episode

709
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 1: like that too. I think you did.

710
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 3: I had to get I had multiple times where I've

711
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 3: had to act with you in a hospital bed coming

712
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 3: to my memory right now, or where I've had to

713
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 3: like get in the hospital bed and like hold you

714
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 3: or you were holding me like.

715
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: I don't remember if that was a whole episode that

716
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: I was in the hospital or or for it was

717
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: the ending of that episode where I'm Unhuck is like underwater,

718
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: you know, goes underwater with his car and then he

719
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: has to get out and all that shit.

720
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 2: I've never done that.

721
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: No, I'd be afraid that i'd like fart in my sleep.

722
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 2: Well, now that we've talked a lot about that, you're

723
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 2: a sleep.

724
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,280
Speaker 1: Farterer, damn it right.

725
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 2: You would be. Everybody would be in trouble.

726
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 3: Did you ever fall asleep in the hospital scenes that

727
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 3: you shot in Scandal when you were in the hot No, I.

728
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: Don't think so. I don't think I did. I don't

729
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,720
Speaker 1: remember falling asleep. Uh, I'm a professional.

730
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 3: Fits got paid the big bucks for this episode because

731
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 3: not only was he asleep, but in the whole episode,

732
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 3: he only has.

733
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 2: One line and it just happens to be one fucking

734
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 2: word yes, and it's yeah.

735
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: I just want to shout out some of our reporter

736
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: guest stars. There's a bunch of them, and there's one

737
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 1: that has done did I think he did a bunch

738
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: of our Scandal episodes. His name is Jay Jackson. He's

739
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:53,760
Speaker 1: the male reporter.

740
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 2: Oh he's so good.

741
00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 1: Remember he was at our final table. Remember he there.

742
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: I guess he had some lines in that episode and

743
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: they brought him on. But I looked him up and

744
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: it said he's played a news anchor or a reporter

745
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 1: twenty eight times in his career.

746
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, Wow, that guy must

747
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 2: get a breakdown for a reporter from his agents and

748
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 2: be like, everyone just go home.

749
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: Talk about type right, I'm a bucket of shit. Meanwhile,

750
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 1: I played twenty eight thugs and drug dealers, and even

751
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: more than that. When I got podcasts in a whole different.

752
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:34,240
Speaker 2: Way, I played twenty eight Girl next Doors, Girl next

753
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 2: I mean I think, oh no, no, I've played some

754
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 2: you know, the only things I've shown. My son has

755
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 2: not seen like anything I've done.

756
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's still a little too young, right, he's too little. Yeah,

757
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: So like you can't engage or want to watch right right?

758
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 3: And he's like yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm like they pretend

759
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 3: for a living. It's fucking weird.

760
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 2: I don't know, but we were laughing.

761
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 3: Adam and I like a year ago and I and

762
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 3: he saw a few minutes of my ghost whisper, so yeah,

763
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 3: and he was scarred.

764
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 2: He was a bad guy. Why are you Because I

765
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 2: was saying, I only play girl next door. That's not true.

766
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 3: I love playing any fucking psychopath. Like I played a

767
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 3: ghost that was like a murderer.

768
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 2: That was like I'm coming for you, like yeah, and

769
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 2: he saw it. He was terrified.

770
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: Aren't you in that episode? Two? Aren't you wet the

771
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: whole episode?

772
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 3: Because a ghost whisper for all your ghosts whisper fans

773
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,439
Speaker 3: out there. If you die in the episode, that's how

774
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 3: your ghost exists the whole rest of the episode. So

775
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 3: my character drowned. So I was soaking wet for nine days.

776
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 3: They would hose me down before every scene and I

777
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 3: would open my mouth and they rigged like a hose.

778
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 3: That water would just come pouring out of my mouth

779
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 3: before I was able to start speaking.

780
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Yeah, yeah.

781
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: What the though, Oh yeah, it's fine. I had to

782
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: get hose down like that too for that one episode

783
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: where I'm f and wet every morning, they'd hoes me down.

784
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 2: Oh, oh my god. Remember I had the episode We're

785
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 2: Oh my.

786
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 1: God, that's the worst, but also so j Jackson. Katie

787
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: was also a news anchor on Inventing Anna.

788
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

789
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 1: This guy, this motherfucker is doing it.

790
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 2: Not auditioned against this guy if it's a news reporter,

791
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 2: because you're not getting it.

792
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: All right, y'all, let's get into our favorite.

793
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 2: Tweet to tweet to tweet tweets tweets at a time

794
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 2: tweets tweeted.

795
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 3: Tweets one trill being on January fourteenth of twenty thirteen,

796
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 3: Columbus Short is so sexy. He was really sexy in

797
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 3: this episode.

798
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I miss him.

799
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 3: And in this episode when he's like, they have to

800
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 3: get the into Hollis Oyle's office to see if there's

801
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 3: a burner phone that Verna thinks she saw, and you know,

802
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 3: Harrison has to do this sort of like smooth talking

803
00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 3: to Hollis dumb ass Texan blonde assistant, and he's so

804
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 3: smooth as per usual. Also, oh my god, from this tweet,

805
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 3: one of my favorite scenes of this episode is when Columbus,

806
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 3: you know, we're sitting me, Darby and Harrison are sitting

807
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 3: in the in the conference room and we're all like,

808
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,919
Speaker 3: He's like, we can't mess with this. This is these

809
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 3: are the things that go bump to the night, and

810
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 3: this is crazier than anything we've ever dealt with. Like,

811
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,240
Speaker 3: we don't know where Huck is, we don't know about Hollis,

812
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 3: we can't call this number, Like this is the real

813
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 3: underground DC that none of us know. We can't mess

814
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 3: with dark shit. And the way that he delivers that

815
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 3: little mini monologue as per usual is just such.

816
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: He really is. He's so good. He's so good and

817
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: flipping that phone and then flipping that phone at the end.

818
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 2: Oh, it's so cool.

819
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: Another tweet from scorpo At caught you staring. Oh that's

820
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: a good one. That's a good handle. He says, love

821
00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: can be your greatest weakness, Huck, let love cloud his judgment. Hell, yeah,

822
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: you could say that again. We all know that was it?

823
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 2: Love or was it his donk?

824
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: I think it was his donk first, and then he

825
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: probably started to catch the feels, you know what I mean?

826
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 2: Did have feelings for Becky and think that it could

827
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 2: be a thing.

828
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's how I played it and how I

829
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:21,399
Speaker 1: felt it as a.

830
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 3: Despine Okay, then we have this is it? At Noanz

831
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 3: tweeted it's official. I can't predict Shonda Rhime's next move

832
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 3: in Scandal. Yeah no, nobody could. I've done it, I've

833
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 3: shot it, and I've watched it multiple times, and I

834
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 3: still can't predict when things are happening.

835
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: Beverly Gooden says still funny at Scandal, Edison need to chill.

836
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 1: Clearly he hasn't had a relevant woman before Insecure. Oh shit,

837
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: they're getting shady on his ass.

838
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 2: Fans were not with Edison. They not.

839
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 3: The fans were not with Edison. That girl Philippa at

840
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 3: Philippa ninety HEV says, ooh, Shandaraim, stop selling me that

841
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 3: good to be true kind of romance. Love me some scandal.

842
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and another one says Columbus Short is sexy. I

843
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: just wanted to say that again.

844
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 2: He's columb Columbus Short is sexy Columbus short is so

845
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 2: fucking sexy.

846
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 3: What is this huge ass photo of you that Aaron

847
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 3: p WV wrote.

848
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 2: Bob Maluga Luga Luga, luga luga, hashtag big huck on

849
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 2: campus at Heather rn Brooks, He's back hashtag scandal with

850
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 2: a big picture of Hagrid Hock. So we don't know

851
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 2: what the hell this means. But it's literally a picture

852
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 2: of Hagrid Hawk and it just says, Bob Maluga Luga luga.

853
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: I do look kind of cute in that picture.

854
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 2: Though, I think you look as durable. Oh my god,

855
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 2: I think again.

856
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 1: Being homeless, HOWK was the worst because I couldn't eat.

857
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: That was the hardest part of being fucking homeless, HOWK,

858
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: because I had to have that beard on glued on

859
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 1: my face all day and that wig.

860
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 3: And how did you feel about being neody for the

861
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 3: torture scenes. Had you been on like some big ass

862
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 3: cleanse for that.

863
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: No, I think I had already. I had already. Remember,

864
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: I stopped sort of eating bread for a while, so

865
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: I had gotten like super thin. So I was like whatever,

866
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: I was feeling good. I wasn't even thinking about that shit.

867
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,280
Speaker 3: Next week's episode is called a criminal, a whore, an idiot,

868
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:22,760
Speaker 3: and a liar.

869
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:24,720
Speaker 2: Do you remember what the hell's that about?

870
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: You know what? That's a line that Olivia says, because

871
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: she says it to Edison. I think that's where she

872
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: officially breaks up with him, where she says, you have

873
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:37,280
Speaker 1: called me a criminal, a whore, and a liar. It's over.

874
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 2: I think let's see next week.

875
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 1: If next week, y'all got to tune in.

876
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 3: Guys got to tune in to make sure if Germo

877
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 3: guessed right that that's who got that line in the app.

878
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 2: Please listen to the scale.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta come to Yeah, get your facts right.

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