1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Sports Radio Hour two on this Thursday, Dan and The 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: Dans Dan Patrick Show. Come on in stay a while. 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: Chris mad Dog Russo he'll join us coming up works 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: for MLB. Also has his own serious XM channel, Mad 6 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: Dog Radio. We'll talk about baseball yesterday and last night. 7 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: Braves at the Dodgers Game five coming up tonight, and 8 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: the Dodgers on the brink offense didn't show up last night. 9 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: You would have thought there would be momentum after what 10 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: happened the previous night, but it wasn't there. The starters 11 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: had just two hits, so we'll talk to mad Dog 12 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,599 Speaker 1: about that. The Astros rolled the Red Sox. They're up 13 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: three games to two, eight seven seven three. D P 14 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: show email address DPA dan Patrick dot com Twitter handle 15 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: at dp's show Thursday Night Football. At least a reasonable 16 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: fact simile Brown's Broncos case Keenum versus a banged up 17 00:00:55,120 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater. No Baker Mayfield in this game? What is 18 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: the betting line in this game? Because you're trying to 19 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: handicap a game where you got a lot of injuries here, 20 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: let's play guests the line mcloven you know it, I 21 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:11,559 Speaker 1: know it, I know it. Okay, all right, so let's 22 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: guess the betting line tonight, Broncos at the Browns. Todd, 23 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: I'll start with you, Broncos apologist, I would say the 24 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 1: Broncos would be favored by two and a half. The 25 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 1: Broncos are favorite. I would have the Broncos favorite by 26 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: two and a half with Baker out, even though they're 27 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: on the road. Okay, all right, that's interesting. Setan O'Connor. 28 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have the Browns favored by two and a half. Okay, Paulieuh, 29 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: maybe we're selling I would go Browns four and a half, 30 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: both home and consider a better team. I'm gonna go 31 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: Brown's six point favorite. Mclovin. Browns are a two point 32 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: favorite any over unders forty one. That's as low as 33 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: it gets in the NFL this year. Well, I mean 34 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: the Browns are without Odell there, without the two tackles there, 35 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: without the two running backs. You know, they have another 36 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: two or three other line injuries. So that's the that's 37 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: the issue in case. I mean, he's a backup. You 38 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: know he hasn't played yet. Yeah, um, yeah, this feels 39 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 1: like it'll have crooked numbers. It'll be one of those 40 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: squirrely numbered like h nineteen to sixteen or something like that. 41 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,119 Speaker 1: Maybe a thirteen in there is he a thirteen eleven? 42 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: Who knows? Like, didn't the Lions have an eleven against 43 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,959 Speaker 1: the Bengals. Yeah, they were saying, that's the first time 44 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: there's ever been the thirty eight eleven game in NFL 45 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: history or something like that. All right, so, uh, phone 46 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: calls are welcome. We're gonna stay with the pole question here, McLevin. 47 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: What we had from the first down, we actually don't 48 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: have a pole. So here are a couple more options 49 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: real quick. All right, what is annoying you in baseball 50 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: right now? Launch angle, the shift, bullpen games, or showing 51 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: the strike zone on TV or none of the above. 52 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: Are you hey with all this? You know what the 53 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 1: most annoying thing is hitters at the plate when they 54 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: step out, they adjust readjust step back in one more pitch, 55 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: step out, adjust readjust jose l twove Man, I'd be 56 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: you could cut thirty minutes off a baseball game if 57 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 1: you wanted to by just saying to the hitter, hey, 58 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: stay in the box, let's go keep the bat in 59 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:29,239 Speaker 1: your hand. I'll tuve drops the bat and then readjust 60 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: his gloves, like come on, let's go, let's go. I 61 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: can't imagine Joe Dimagio or Ted Williams doing that. And 62 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: I'll be like, here's a pitch. All right, I'm gonna 63 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: stay right in here, here's the pitch. And I know players, 64 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: particularly baseball players, it's all about the routine. But we've 65 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: allowed this routine to happen. And you don't want to 66 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: stand in there while the pitcher is going through his 67 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: routine because the pitcher is going to do what he 68 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: wants to do. He wants to make you unsettled. So 69 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: then the hitter steps out and jost. You just you jost. 70 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: So you're not thinking when you're in the batter's box 71 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: because once you get in there, now you're ready to go. 72 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: You don't want to be waiting for the pitcher. I 73 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: get it. But baseball could clean that up, like come on, 74 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: let's go, get in, let's go pitch. Here we go, 75 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: But they don't want to do that. And there's certain 76 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: things with baseball. I know it's timeless. I know that 77 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 1: there's no real clock there, although there's supposed to be 78 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: a clock on the pitcher. But games used to be shorter, 79 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: and you know baseball, you know they monetize this that 80 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,239 Speaker 1: it is a four hour game and we think nothing 81 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: of it. But it feels like a five hour game 82 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: sometimes where it just drags on and on and on 83 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: and on and on. But I would think that if 84 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: you sped up the process where the hitter in the 85 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 1: batter's box and the pitcher let's go, yeah it's time. 86 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: I always going to kick out of the gratuitous with 87 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: a homeplate on past to come out when there's a 88 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: little conversation on the mound, when the pitching coach or 89 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: the manager comes out acting like they're trying to speed 90 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: things up, they feel compelled they have to come out 91 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: and take You could let them know, okay, let's go. 92 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: Let's you don't have all day to talk. And also 93 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: I never understood this where the manager would come out 94 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: and look like a child and start arguing a call. 95 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 1: I mean it's embarrassing. I mean, I know it's a 96 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 1: kid's game, but you don't have to act like a kid. 97 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: Earl Weaver would come out, and I know fans got 98 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: caught up in it, but you know, first of all, 99 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 1: you see an old man in a baseball uniform who 100 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: shouldn't be in a baseball uniform running out there kicking dirt. 101 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: Billy Martin would do this, Lou Panella would do this, 102 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: and I would always laugh because in the moment, you're like, so, 103 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: what other sport do we allow this? You can't do 104 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: that in football, you can't do that in basketball. I'm 105 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: gonna get right up right and we're gonna go nose 106 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: to nose and then this is part of the game. 107 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 1: And then I'm gonna turn my hat backwards. This is 108 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:54,119 Speaker 1: part of the game. All right, nothing is ever accomplished, 109 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 1: like the umpire doesn't go on second thought, you're right, 110 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 1: my mistake. It's like, all right, I'm gonna go out 111 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: watch this. I'm gonna go out and fire up my team. 112 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get thrown out of the game. And then 113 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: you see the umpire out there going, you know, he's 114 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: mounting stuff. Throw me out of the game? Do you 115 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: throw it? I dare you throw me out of the game? 116 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: And then he says some magical words. They throw him 117 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: out of the game. They're like, yeah, it's time. I 118 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: don't like when you when they do it for theatrics, 119 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: But there's something very entertaining over the years about seeing 120 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: a grown man just lose his mind over a call 121 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: or a play. I don't even have to throw bats 122 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,359 Speaker 1: and balls and basses all around from the dugout or whatever, 123 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: but when you're just flipping out, it's just to me 124 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: it's extreme weird. No, it's embarrassing. These are grown men. 125 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: These are supposed to be your leader, and you're out 126 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: there act like a fool. I were. Lou Panella picked 127 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: up a bass and threw the bass like what are 128 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: you doing? Yes, you remember that idiot, And he was 129 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: like a minor league coach, and he was like crawling 130 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: up the side of the mound, throwing a rosin bag 131 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: like a grenade. He was acting like Bill Murray and 132 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: Caddy Shot like okay, all right, well done, well done, 133 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: you got your fifteen minutes there. Yeah, as an NFL 134 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: head coach ever been ejected from a game, I can't 135 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: remember that in our lifetime. I looked it up and 136 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: they can't find any records of an NFL coach ever 137 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: being ejected. Remember when Lou Holtz went onto the field 138 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: one time and he was yelling at the official when 139 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: he was at Notre Dame. Remember when Bill Kauer stuffed 140 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: something in the officials hand. Yeah, when he ran off 141 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: the field at halftime. That's about it. You don't see. 142 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: There are so many calls in an NFL game that 143 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: you could be upset about, but you're not allowed to 144 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: go out there and go toe to toe. We just 145 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: that's part of baseball and like those silly unwritten rules 146 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: where you're like, yeah, you're allowed to go out there 147 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: and do that. By the way, for neutral baseball fans, 148 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: a Dodger Astro revenge matchup would probably make the best 149 00:07:56,120 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: World Series, right. It's a storyline it runs d When 150 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: Houston beat La in the twenty seventeen World Series, Astros 151 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: appear to be doing their part. They're up three games 152 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: to two over the Red Sox, convincing when yesterday Dodgers 153 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: in trouble losing nine to two, and now they trail 154 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: three games to one and neither series is over. But 155 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: we've seen momentum shift almost instantly. If the Braves do 156 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: manage to close it out tonight, the baseball purist shouldn't complain. 157 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: Atlanta has a balanced lineup, deserves to be here, and 158 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: they've been great since the trade deadline. And does that 159 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: mean it's wrong not to root for the drama the 160 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 1: Dodgers Astros rematch. Of course not. It would be great 161 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: for now we hold on and see all the rest 162 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: of the Championship Series games play out. And I'll reiterate 163 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: this because I keep hearing from Braves fans like, what 164 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: do you have against the Braves? I have nothing against them. 165 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: You got a couple of great players, it's a great 166 00:08:55,840 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 1: story you just it's not enough star power. And we've 167 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 1: been down the road with the Braves many many times 168 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: over many many decades here, but it's it's it. You 169 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: can have a good team and not have star power 170 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: or a storyline that the rest of America is going 171 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: to buy into. And we'll talk to Chris Russo about this. 172 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: You know, we we have the underdog team. Uh you 173 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: know where you go, that team has no chance. Okay. 174 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: You know when the Cubs played the Indians, that was 175 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: the right matchup because you had two great storylines. Somebody 176 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 1: was going to win the World Series and that was 177 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: a great, great matchup proved to be a great World 178 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: Series there. Dodgers Astros, Yeah, am I rooting for it? Yes, 179 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: I'm rooting for it because it's a story that that 180 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: baseball fans care about. Even if you're a marginal baseball fan, 181 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: you care about something like that. The Revenge Series, you 182 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: don't have all the principles there, but you have some 183 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: of Altuve and Correa, Bregman, you know, with the Dodgers 184 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: still have you know, part of the nucleus there as well. 185 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: So it does matter. But if it's the Red Sox 186 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: and the Braves, great, it's the Astros and the Braves, okay, 187 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: I mean all still watch it. But when it comes 188 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: to doing this show, you want to play the hits. 189 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: You want to talk about the big stories there, and 190 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: a big story would be the Astros and the Dodgers. Yeah. 191 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: Mclen I saw something the other day. You know how 192 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: you often say they don't do anything, there's no motion. 193 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 1: They had a pitch out in the Dodgers Braves game. 194 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: I probably haven't seen one in ten years. Is that 195 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: the bigger problem that there's no action? Like style play too. Yeah, 196 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 1: but you know I've harped on this and it doesn't matter. 197 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I I just baseball can be beautiful, it 198 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:47,719 Speaker 1: can be fun, it can be thought provoking. But I 199 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: just you know, the analytics have just taken They've drained me. 200 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: The analytics has drained me because it's like, do you 201 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 1: leave the picture in? I don't know, should you leave 202 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: the picture in? I don't analytics say there's no gut 203 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: feeling anymore in managing a game. Valdez with the Astros 204 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: last night, I kept saying, man, he's he's been out 205 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: there a long time, like I kept waiting for somebody 206 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: to pull him, because well, you're supposed to. And Dusty 207 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: Baker goes out to the mound at one point last 208 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: night and then there was nobody warming up, so it 209 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: wasn't where he goes, hey, I'm gonna take you out. 210 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: He looked around, he went looked in the bullpens, nobody 211 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: warming up. All right, I don't see you later. And 212 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: you know, Valdez was great last night, but if you 213 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: go more than six innings, like it seems like it's herculean, 214 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: and it didn't used to be that way, Like you 215 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: expected your starter to go at least seven or eight. 216 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: Now it's all right, you gave me four good innings. 217 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: You're good, You're done now, And it was it was 218 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: refreshing to see that. Yeah, poem. I found a list 219 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: of the worst World Series matchups of all time and 220 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: the overwhelming winner was just matchup two thousand and eight 221 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 1: World Series Philadelphia Phillies versus the Tampa Bay Rays. It 222 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: was four one. The big stars in that series were 223 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: Scott Kazmir and Cole Hamills and some other ieric Ryan Howard. 224 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: How's that worse? And was it worth? The Royals and 225 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: somebody in a World Series and like five years ago, 226 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: that's up there, that's on the list. They have some 227 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: teams that didn't have star names. They graded out by 228 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 1: like the number of stars per team? Was that the Royals, Giants? Yeah? 229 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: That even last year? Wasn't the Rays in the World 230 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: Series last year? Again? The Ras, the Rays of the 231 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: Marlins have a long history of being in the world 232 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 1: The Rams are gonna host the Lions. That means Jared 233 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: Goff is coming back to town. Jared Goff talked about 234 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 1: going back there and how he feels about it. It'll 235 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: be fun to see all those people, and it'll be 236 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: fun to be there, and of course you're motivated. Of 237 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: course you have the chip on your shoulder. I've spoken 238 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: about that, like you know, there there was there was 239 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: some disrespects felt towards the end. There was some you know, 240 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: sourness there towards the end, and you still feel that 241 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: you still have that chip on your shoulder. But at 242 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: the same time, when I get the game starts, if 243 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: I let any of that come into how, I'm gonna 244 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: play the game and be selfish and I'm gonna play 245 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: the game just I would any other game. Yeah, you 246 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: try to make it just like any other game, but 247 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: it's not. But you can't go, Hey, I gotta throw 248 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: for five touchdowns. I want to throw it fifteen times. 249 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: You just you're trying to win, just win. It doesn't matter. Yes, 250 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: ton he said. It was first line in that bide 251 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: was it would be fun to go back there, and 252 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 1: then everything you said after that, and his tone of 253 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: voice sounded like exactly the opposite. Yeah, ended badly to 254 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 1: some salad grapes there anything, But I can't wait to 255 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: go see the guy as I play the rest. The 256 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 1: Kids Tonight Show streaming now, new episodes every Thursday. It's 257 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: on a new Peacock original series. It's called The Kids 258 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: Tonight Show where the Kids Are in Charge. 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So a lot of things attached 269 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: to that. And then the Texans don't want to ah 270 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: in return, and that's where you have to bring in 271 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: another team. And maybe that other team is the Washington 272 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: football team. Take a break back after this and the 273 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show. Finished golfing yesterday, and I use the 274 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: Level Select CBD roll on there. If you're going to 275 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: go golfing, lifting weights so you can run around the 276 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: neighborhood ten k just a ten minute walk. Your body 277 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: doesn't recover it like it used to. 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Be sure to 295 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern 296 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and you 297 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: can find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or 298 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: stream us live on the Peacock app. By the way, 299 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: Sunday Night on NBC and Peacock, Carson Wentz and the 300 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: Colts go to San Francisco to face off against Nick 301 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: Bosa and the forty nine Ers Sunday sevent Eastern on 302 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: NBC and Peacock. I don't know how Fox is promoting 303 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: that game tonight because you have Case Keenham versus a 304 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: banged up Teddy Bridgewater. It's Broncos and the Browns. I 305 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: just I mean, Fritzie wants me to bring up the 306 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: fumble and the drive. If John Elway was playing tonight, 307 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: then I would I would tune in. But these two quarterbacks. 308 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: But like you said, you almost have to show the 309 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: drive in the funnel because who cares about that? Okay? Okay, 310 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: But if I was the voiceover guy Browns, Broncos, Keenham, 311 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: maybe Bridgewater John Elway might be there next Yeah, I 312 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: don't think so. You like the color orange? We've got 313 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: plenty of it tonight on Fox. Yes, Paul, I'd rather 314 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: watch John Elway watching the game than watch the game. 315 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: He's Chris mad Dog, rus host a mad Dog Unleashed 316 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 1: on Serious XM Radio, and he hosts High Heat on 317 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 1: the MLB Network. Mad Dog, How are you any boy? 318 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: How are you doing okay, I'm doing okay. We were 319 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: talking about the world series, and you know, I'm openly 320 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:20,719 Speaker 1: rooting for Dodgers versus the Astros because the storyline and 321 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: I totally agree, totally agree. But Braves fans are getting 322 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: upset with me. It's like, what do you have against us? 323 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: I have nothing against you. You're a good story. You 324 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: had some great additions at the trade deadline. But you know, 325 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:36,199 Speaker 1: Freddie Freeman, like, you're not. We want star power or 326 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: we want revenge, we want drama, and you know, maybe 327 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: we get Astros in the Braves, But do you get 328 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: killed when you are rooting for a start? I do, 329 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: and I'm with you a thousand percent. You're right on, 330 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: that's the best one. Dodgers juston. I don't think we're 331 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: gonna get it now, but I think Dodgers Juson would 332 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: have been a superb series. Dodgers look like they've run 333 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: out of gas. You know, the pictures a tie Turner's hurt. 334 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: Give the Braves a lot of credit last night, and 335 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: they jumped on them early. Aristus Arius is tired, Buner 336 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: was tired to the so I mean, I don't know. 337 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 1: I think the Giants took a lot out of the Dodgers. 338 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: I think, go a year, one hundred and six wins, 339 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: five games. I think it took a lot out of 340 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: La and the Braves are peaking at the perfect time. 341 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: So I'm with you. You're gonna get probably, and I 342 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: think Houston, we'll figure out a way to win a 343 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 1: game at home. So I think you're gonna get used 344 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,199 Speaker 1: in Atlanta, and you both you and I you know 345 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: much better than me about ratings. That is not gonna 346 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: light up America. I think if it went deep and 347 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: you got a sixth and seventh game, I think those 348 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 1: last two games would be good. But next Tuesday night 349 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: in Houston, there comes Atlanta. I don't know if the 350 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: TV sets are going to be turned down across the country. 351 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: So I gotta be honest, that's just the way it is. 352 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 1: But I do think it'd be a fun series, and 353 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,959 Speaker 1: it'd be a lot of runs, good weather, nice ballparks. 354 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: But the World America Dodgers Astros would have been a 355 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 1: lot of fun. Yes, fans get mad. They think if 356 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: you go the other way that you hate their team. 357 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: Just because you want a Dodger astro thing, Dan doesn't 358 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 1: mean you and I hate the Brakes. No. Well, looking 359 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 1: at this from a different perspective, but the fan things 360 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: if you don't talk about their team and the job 361 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: that did well, hold on. Now, that means you don't 362 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 1: like Atlanta, so you're an anti brand guy, which is 363 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 1: not the case. We always look at momentum. We're trying 364 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: to figure out momentum, and you would have thought maybe 365 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: the Dodgers would wake up after Bellinger's home run. Mookie 366 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: bet says the game winning RBI. But what is the 367 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: saying like momentum is tomorrow's starting pitcher. I don't know 368 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: if Earl Weaver coined that phrase, but how do you 369 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: explain the Dodger lineup that had two hits? The starters 370 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: had two hits, I can and not only that against 371 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: the bullpen. I mean, so it's not like they were 372 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 1: facing h you know, Colegmattox Czarca. It's circa two ninety eight. 373 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean they were facing obviously. I can't 374 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: explain it. I thought the Dodgers were definitely gonna win 375 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: last night. I did not take into account Arisus Origus 376 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 1: might be a little tired, and he was. The Braves 377 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: jumped out to nothing. You can sense, right, away that 378 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 1: the Dodgers were in a little trouble once they got 379 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: those two runs. You know, they had that one opportunity. 380 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 1: And then of course he hit into the double play 381 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 1: turner when he got hurt in the bottom of the 382 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: seventh inning, he'll have the leadoff single. But you know 383 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: you're not gonna come from five two down too many 384 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: times in a row. Dan, I mean the game the 385 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: night before, I mean, out of the out of nowhere, 386 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: he hits a three run home in the bottom of 387 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 1: the eighth. You're not doing that every day. And I'll 388 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: tell you something else. And I did not take take 389 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: this into account, So blame this on me. You know, 390 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 1: this is the third time now the Braves and Dodgers 391 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: have played in the playoffs in the last three years. 392 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: Eighteen they played Dodgers one in four. Last year they 393 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,719 Speaker 1: were down three one and a one. You're gonna beat 394 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: the Braves three times in a row, and then you're 395 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: gonna beat the Braves down three one twice in a row. No, 396 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: you know the way sports go. Sooner or later, the 397 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: tide's gonna go the other way. So the Dodgers look 398 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: to me be an exhausted team. I think Atlanta will 399 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: get by, and I can't explain last night. I'm with you, 400 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: thought that that was such a huge joke on the 401 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: night before that it would be a carryover especial against 402 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: the Braves Bullpam. It didn't work that. It didn't work. 403 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 1: That's why we love sports. It didn't work out that way. 404 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: I'm watching Houston against the Red Sox and Framber Valdez 405 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: is out there, and I keep waiting for the analytical 406 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 1: department with the Astros to say, well, you got to 407 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: take him out because he's gone more than four innings. 408 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: Oh my god, he's gone more than five. And I'm 409 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: going like he's dealing. And John Smoltz even said, you know, 410 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: sometimes it's just your gut feeling. Like you you ask 411 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: your catcher, and you know you have different metrics there, 412 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 1: but you're asking your catcher. You know, how does he feel? 413 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 1: How does he look? Your catcher will be honest with you. 414 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:54,199 Speaker 1: But this somebody goes seven innings and it's herculean. I 415 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: mean it used to be it was almost mandatory in 416 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: big games. I totally agree. I think that's hurt a lot. 417 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 1: Nobody gets wrapped up to see me. Levers pitched these games. 418 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: They entertainment value. See what base four has lost, and 419 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: they've lost the great starter trying to get through a 420 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 1: lineup the third time in a big game. You know 421 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: Verlander a few years ago against the Yankees in a 422 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 1: game six, Gibson against the Yankees. Pick anybody you want, 423 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: you lose that. So what they do is they bring 424 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 1: in an anonymous relief pitcher who nobody's ever heard of, 425 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: where you can't pick out of a lineup. Oh and 426 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: by the way, after he faced his feed, batters of 427 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 1: bring another guy in to do the same exact thing. 428 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: So the entertainment value of this sport where the big 429 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: star pitcher. Imagine Lebron if we took him out in 430 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter because we feel that, you know, the 431 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: fourth quarter he's too tired. So who are bringing I mean, actually, 432 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 1: imagine if Brady doesn't play in the fourth quarter of 433 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: the playoff. I mean, that's what we've done with the 434 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,439 Speaker 1: great pitcher. But I agree with you about Valdez and 435 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 1: give Dusty credit. Bottom of the fifth, it's only one nothing, 436 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: bottom of the fifth, base hit hit batter and he 437 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 1: Dusty goes out to the mounds and you know, nine 438 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,959 Speaker 1: times out of ten the manager Panics, brings in the reliever, 439 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: Dusty basically tells them to settle down. Four or five 440 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 1: pitches later, renfro hits into a double play, They get 441 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: out of the inning, and in the top of the 442 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: sixth the Astros scored three runs or whatever, they scored 443 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: four or five. So it was a breath of fresh 444 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: air watching his kid pitch yesterday. It really was a 445 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: breath of fresh air. They needed that start in the 446 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: worst way. But the great starting pitcher that we all 447 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 1: used to love you and I as kids, severer seventh 448 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 1: inning against Rosen Bench in the seventy three postseason in 449 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 1: Game one is a perfect example. As it turns out, 450 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: those two guys at home runs off them. But you 451 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: get you know what I mean, that great Hall of 452 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: Fame starter baseball no longer can give you that, And 453 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: I think you and I think that's a major problem 454 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 1: with the sport. It's unfortunate. That's the way that data Sceario. 455 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: You know, he got the kid riding a shrin bike 456 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 1: into the end of the offices right out of UCLA. 457 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 1: Just wash his hair at the blue and sweatshirt on 458 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: and he tells, you know, Andy Freeman, Andy, look at 459 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 1: this data. Third time through the lineup against this team, 460 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: that starting pitcher, you know, gives up a two eighty 461 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 1: five batting average. Let's get them the hell out of 462 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 1: the game. That might be good for their you know, 463 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: for maybe the front office. It's bad for the entertainment, 464 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: There's no question about it. But do you think, and 465 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: I keep bringing this up, where somebody is going to 466 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: be have a counter attack, an alternative style hit and run. 467 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: You know, you're gonna be maybe in a bigger ballpark, 468 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: maybe steel bait, putting pressure that you must make something 469 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: happen every time you get to the It's almost like 470 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. He's hitting home runs, but when you force 471 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: him to hit singles, now you change the whole dynamic. 472 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 1: The Titans run the football. Nobody wants to face them 473 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 1: in the postseason. Does somebody does a bait? East ball 474 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: teams say, let's take advantage of our ballpark and play 475 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 1: this style of baseball that will be different than anybody else. 476 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 1: So you have to deal with us as opposed to 477 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: the other way around eighty five Cardinals when they ran 478 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: over over the place with Vince Pullman and everything. That's 479 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: another thing that Dusty did yesterday, Dan, it was good 480 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 1: top of the sixth inning, how twove walks, what's he 481 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: doing after that? He steals second base and then they 482 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: know there was a play that he stole. It wasn't 483 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: that one, but there was a play Yese that he 484 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: stole a bag, which is right after which was a 485 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: tremendous move because he caught the red side. I thought 486 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 1: it was in the top of the six whatever inning 487 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 1: it was. Dusty put on a steel sign and he 488 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: got the bag stolen. Well, that's what it was. He 489 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: was running on the ball that was hit the third 490 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: base and Endeavors threw the scherber who dropped it, and 491 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: Otovey ended up all the way at third base because 492 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 1: he's running with the pitch and Branley hits a little 493 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: ball on the third base. That kind of baseball we've missed. 494 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: It's strikeouts or hit home runs where this has been 495 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: discussed forever and it's it's unfortunate and the other thing 496 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: that that was surprising to me, and I, you know, 497 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: think about it, the ratings. I get into the ratings. 498 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: Tuesday night, that was a great baseball night. Bellinger hits 499 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 1: the home run and then the Red Sox and Astros 500 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: it's two, it's one one, and it's two one Red 501 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: Sox top of the eighth. Those ratings for those games 502 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 1: you would think would be really good, and they were 503 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 1: decent four million, But the NBA didn't do that much worse. 504 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: A matter of fact, Lebron and Curry had ten thirty 505 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: did like three and a half man and the Red 506 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: Sox Astro game did like four point two. Wouldn't you 507 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 1: think a baseball playoff game in our era would bury 508 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: an NHL or an NBA regular seed. I know it's 509 00:26:55,880 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: Lebron and Curry, but geez, well, highest rate individual game 510 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: in World Series history, you know when? Yeah, it's the 511 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,239 Speaker 1: Red Sox reds it in Game six when it had 512 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 1: seventy five million people watching it, nineteen eighty Game six, Yeah, 513 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: you're right. Philly's Royals had a forty rating. Yeah, that's right, 514 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 1: you had Reds against the Red Sox was almost a 515 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: forty rating. The Dodgers when they swept the Yankees um 516 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: in sixty in sixty sixty three, nineteen eighty six. The 517 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: most viewed game Game seven, nineteen eighty six, the Mets 518 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: over the Red Sox that had a thirty eight point nine. 519 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 1: So yeah, those are monster monster numbers where now you're 520 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: getting a you know, a twelve maybe and you're happy 521 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 1: with the twelve. Yeah, you know. I think baseball in 522 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: each town can produce that. The problem that baseball has 523 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 1: is that, you know, if the Pirates are in the 524 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: World Series, the Pirates locally will get that kind of rating. 525 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:10,439 Speaker 1: But the problem is Pittsburgh doesn't care about Dodgers Braves, 526 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 1: so they get no carryover. In other words, and if 527 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: the Steeners are out, they care about Green Bay, Tampa, 528 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: or they care about you know, Kansas City and Buffalo. 529 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: In the AFC Championship game, they're gonna watch the towns 530 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: in which their teams have been eliminated. They don't get 531 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 1: into the next round when their team isn't innis And 532 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: I think that kills the rating because you know, locally, 533 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: if your team is in the postseason in baseball, your 534 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: rating is gonna be great. They're watching the games in Boston, Houston, Atlanta. 535 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: But when their team is out and they're not in 536 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: the postseason, they follow it. They know what's going on, 537 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: but they're not gonna sit there for three and a 538 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: half hours and watch the game. They don't gamble. Who's 539 00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: gambling in the base They don't gamble that much with 540 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: the baseball. Yeah, I was wondering, it's not like the football. 541 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: Football they gambled everything, first quarter, second quarter, points, overs, 542 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: prop bets, catches by receivers, you know, halftime, they do everything. 543 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: Bankball they don't do that as much. And I think 544 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: that I think, you know, I think that's a major factor. 545 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: I don't think it's the local I think the fan 546 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: interest is great. I just don't think the fan interest 547 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: once their team is out of it, there's no carry over, 548 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 1: while in football there is. And I think that hurts 549 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: hurts the sport. And I don't know how you solved that. 550 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,239 Speaker 1: How do you solve that problem? I don't know how 551 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: you solve it. He's Chris mad Dog Russo mad Dog 552 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: Unleashed on Sirius XM, that's Channel eighty two and a 553 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: host of High Heat on Major League Baseball Network head 554 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: Bob constaus On yesterday, and he was talking about gambling. 555 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: His dad, of course, used to be a bookie. Oh 556 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: I know I And I said to him, Okay, you 557 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: got one Hall of Fame vote, Pete Rose, Roger Clemens, 558 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: Barry Bonds, you know who took uh I if he 559 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: had one, he should have taken Rose. Did he take him? Yeah? Yeah, 560 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: Rose Bonds Clements, Yeah I can buy that. Yeah, I 561 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: think the same order. See, if you take bonds, you 562 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: gotta take clements, so you only have one. It's you know, 563 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: they have both group Bonds and Clements with the same 564 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: steroid blush. So it's hard to differentiate. Yeah. The fact 565 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: that Rose isn't in the Hall of Fame, I listened. 566 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 1: I mean we all know that Rose at times. We understand, 567 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: you know, he's not a choir boy and Rose you know, uh, 568 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: you know it's bad what he did. But Rose bet 569 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: as a manager, not as a player, and we're putting 570 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: him in a Hall of Fame as a player. Plus, 571 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: Rose never bet on his team to lose. And if 572 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:55,479 Speaker 1: anybody thinks it's the same thing, they're nuts. The nineteen 573 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: nineteen nineteen White Socks bet on their team will lose. 574 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: Rose never did. Rose is too competitive to every want 575 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 1: to lose, so he bet so. To me, that's a 576 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: huge difference. Now, I don't know how you feel about it. 577 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: Betting is bad anyway if you're involved in the sport. 578 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: I'm not denying that but there is a major difference. 579 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: You know, I'm going to flow the game to lose, 580 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: then you know what, I'm going to bet on myself 581 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: because they can want to win. There's a major difference. Yeah, 582 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: but I can't put Pete in until I put shoolas 583 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: Joe Jackson in. That's fair too. I mean he had 584 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: three seventy five in a series where you know he 585 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: was reportedly took money. I mean imagine if yeah, now, 586 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: I imagine if he didn't take money when he would 587 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: have hit. That's an excellent point, but excellent point. Joe 588 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: Jackson had a great World series. The problem is he 589 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: took five and a bucks. But he had a great 590 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: world series. So how do he? Very hard not as 591 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: very very hard to differentiate. But listen, is anybody think 592 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: that Pee Rose? And here's anything that drives me crazy. 593 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: We got everything in the big Red machine, in that 594 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. We got Pete's cleats, we got his 595 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: back that he used to beat Thye Cobb. We have 596 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: everything that you want. Got the hitting streak when he 597 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: hit from forty four straight. Everything you want about Pete Rose. 598 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: You want his glove, you want us uniform, you want 599 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: to cleats, you got everything you want by Pete Rose. 600 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 1: Oh but by the way, we're not going to put 601 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: Pete in, so we can walk through Cooperstown and see 602 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: everything that has got paraphernalia that relates to the Big 603 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: Red Machine and Pete Rose. But Pete doesn't get a day. 604 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: I really mean, but don't you think he's benefited more 605 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 1: crisp by not being in the Hall of Fame, Because 606 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: if Pete got into the Hall of Fame, no one 607 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: would care. He does keep his name in circulation. He's 608 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: made more money by not being in the Hall of Fame. 609 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 1: You know, you can make the argument because people are 610 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: so curious and they feel that. But let's face it. 611 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: I mean ask you a question. Should Peep in the 612 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame? I view it as he cheated in 613 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,479 Speaker 1: grad school, so I can't take away his undergraduate degree 614 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: until I if I think that he bet on baseball 615 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: as a player, then I would not have him in 616 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. Now I've said this before on 617 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 1: my show. My bookie used to take some of Pete's 618 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 1: bets when I used to bet, so I knew what 619 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 1: Pete was doing and how frequent he was doing it, 620 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: and how bad he was. Do I think that he 621 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: bet As a player? Absolutely, is there any proof? No, 622 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 1: not that I've heard. But as a manager, I can't 623 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: take away what I saw on the field. You know. 624 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: It's like Reggie Bush with a Heisman trophy. You know 625 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: what he did off the field, he still won a Heisman. 626 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: On the field, you can take it away. He's still 627 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: a Heisman Trophy winner. And Pete, I just I got 628 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: to see him. I grew up in Cincinnati. I mean, 629 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: we loved Pete. You know, we wanted to wear number fourteen. 630 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: We slid head first, like everything about it. I just 631 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: Pete never read the room, Chris. If he read the room, 632 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: he would have thrown himself on the sword and said 633 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 1: to Bud, Yeah, he just needed to do this. And 634 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: I've talked to Commissioner Seelek about it. I'm going to 635 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: go through the minor leagues on my own dime and 636 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 1: talk about the dangers of gambling. I'm I'm going to 637 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,919 Speaker 1: do that because you know what, I need to give 638 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 1: back to the game. Pete just never thought that he 639 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 1: himself and I think he would have gotten in or 640 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,720 Speaker 1: I agree now that you're right. I mean, if Pete 641 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety through himself. At the mercy of the court, 642 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: we would not be having this discussion. We would not 643 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 1: and Pete didn't do that. And Pete, you know, but 644 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 1: I could also make the argument it has been thirty years. Yes, 645 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,919 Speaker 1: he's eighty years old. Yeah, really, I think he gets into. 646 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 1: I think it's posthumously, Chris, if he gets in, it's 647 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: going to be posthumously. You know, they didn't put Joe. 648 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 1: You made a great point. They never put Joe Jackson 649 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: in and he's been dead forever. Come on, because South Carolina, 650 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,800 Speaker 1: so they didn't put him in. You know, here's the 651 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 1: thing I had always bothered Pete. I had him in 652 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 1: studio a couple of years ago. That's fascinating. You know 653 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 1: when his kid made his debut in Major League Baseball, 654 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 1: you know, they wouldn't give Pete to pass. Yeah, he 655 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 1: had to buy a ticket. Nor on. Now it's Pete's kid. 656 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 1: Pete also had money on the game, though Chris did. 657 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: Keith stirring it up there, mad Dog great to thank you, buddy. 658 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 1: That's Chris. Mad Dog Russo host a mad Dog Unleashed 659 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 1: sirius XM Radio Channel eighty two, and he hosts High 660 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 1: Heat on MLB MLB Network. Take a break back after this. 661 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. 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When 689 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 1: you see Aaron Rodgers run into the end zone and 690 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 1: he apparently was flipped off, and he tells the crowd, 691 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,720 Speaker 1: I still own you. I still own you. I've owned 692 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,240 Speaker 1: you my whole blanking life. How does that make you feel. 693 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 1: I like to punch him in his face. Yes, yeah, 694 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 1: I'd like to punch him in his face when you 695 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 1: see that. That's your first reaction, right, Um, I don't 696 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 1: care if you're right, I don't you know, I don't 697 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 1: care what his excuses. That's just is your first reaction. 698 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 1: I don't care if he you know, I don't know. 699 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 1: To me, that's that's a lame excuse. At the podium, 700 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,879 Speaker 1: I saw some lady flicked me off and I blacked out. 701 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 1: Look look, look just just say you that's how we 702 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 1: all know. This is the kind of guy you are. 703 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 1: You competitive and that's the way you feel. And you 704 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,360 Speaker 1: have won a lot of games here at Soldier Field. 705 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 1: You know, just because you're right, it doesn't make you 706 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:05,399 Speaker 1: right for doing it. Okay. Aaron Rodgers was on Pat 707 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,800 Speaker 1: McAfee show yesterday and he responded to Olden Crutz comment 708 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,320 Speaker 1: that's a Olan crutzaid he wanted to punch me in 709 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 1: the face. Look, I think I think that is to say, 710 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 1: and I don't know Old and I have respectively played 711 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 1: lead for a long time. But are we getting that 712 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 1: stuff as a society that we can't have worth now? 713 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, somebody can, somebody can pay for 714 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 1: a ticket and say whatever the hell they want, which 715 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 1: I think I should be able to do. It's fine. 716 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: But the one time you say something back to him 717 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 1: that gets caught on it, that gets caught on Mike, 718 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 1: which you know, like I said, there's a lot of 719 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,400 Speaker 1: stuff I get Steffen time and time. Now it's that 720 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:45,400 Speaker 1: you know, I've disrespected, you know, an entire city and 721 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:51,759 Speaker 1: organization and my own organization. Come on, but come on. 722 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,240 Speaker 1: This isn't a big deal. Why is this a big deal? 723 00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 1: You know, how about you don't punch him in the phase? 724 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 1: How about you stop him? You've had eighteen chances. I'd 725 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 1: punch him in the face. Wow, okay, how about you 726 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 1: played football? How about you stopped him. I'd punch him 727 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 1: in the face. I love that. The host two He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, 728 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 1: that's that's what I was thinking too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 729 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,839 Speaker 1: that's right. That's my reaction. Punch him in the face. Yeah, 730 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 1: all my Bears friends, friends back home. Aaron Rodgers sucks. 731 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,760 Speaker 1: He's cocky. This is typical Aaron Rodgers. He doesn't suck. 732 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,280 Speaker 1: He's been owning us for two decades, and then Farvar 733 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 1: has had the two decades before this. They're not our problem. 734 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 1: We're our problem. It's forty years of being dominated by 735 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,959 Speaker 1: two guys. The two thousand and five draft, when Aaron 736 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 1: Rodgers went twenty fourth, the Bears took Cedric Benson at 737 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 1: the fourth pick of the draft, the running back. You 738 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 1: know who their quarterbacks were in two thousand and four 739 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 1: that season where they could have Hannahan Rodgers, Chad Hutchinson 740 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 1: and Craig Krenzel and they said, you know what, let's 741 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 1: go for the running back and really show up the 742 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,760 Speaker 1: running game, not take Aaron Rodgers who slept. Yes, mclub, 743 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,720 Speaker 1: I kind of agree with All and Crews to playing football. 744 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 1: Part is not working out clearly that that's not that strategy. 745 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: Maybe try something new. It's the only way they're going 746 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 1: to stop that dude. So the only way to stop 747 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 1: him is punching him in the face. Yea. I have 748 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 1: a retired player come down and wallop him before they 749 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 1: came punch him in the face, And All and Crews 750 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 1: punched one of his former teammates in the face, So 751 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,240 Speaker 1: I do believe him. Yeah, I just checked. The Bears 752 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 1: have to play the Packers every twice every year. Oh, 753 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:30,719 Speaker 1: they can't get out of it. It's not like like 754 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 1: Oklahoma if they don't want to schedule Alabama. They don't 755 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,799 Speaker 1: punch him in the face. Yeah yeah, MC. Does this mean? 756 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,760 Speaker 1: But I think a Rodgers should stay in Green Babies. 757 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:45,319 Speaker 1: What other team does he have two guaranteed wins on? Well, 758 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 1: he's got the Lions too. Oh yeah, I mean that's 759 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 1: four wins that you're pretty much guaranteed every year, and 760 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 1: then you'll get you'll get one against the Vikings. So 761 00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,760 Speaker 1: you go five hundred against the rest, you got five wins? 762 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 1: Are he build in? Yes? Yes, for the record I 763 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 1: have here Owen Crutz going nine and sixteen against the 764 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 1: Packers for his career. That sounds like thorough ownership. That's 765 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,799 Speaker 1: not bad though. That's not a bad record for the 766 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,719 Speaker 1: Bears against you know Green bang. Yeah. As a Bear fan, 767 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,279 Speaker 1: the only thing worse than losing, like at halftime when 768 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,400 Speaker 1: you're losing to the Packers is being up at halftime 769 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 1: against the Packers because I go, how's Aaron gonna do this? 770 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 1: Because you know you're going to lose. Yeah, but you 771 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 1: have that halftime hope. Yeah. Yeah, I'm the club now 772 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 1: that the Packers are five and one to really what 773 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,560 Speaker 1: happened all day? They need more wide receiver. They don't 774 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 1: drop wide receiver. Where do all that stuff go? I know, 775 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,719 Speaker 1: I know, I know that this is this is how 776 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,799 Speaker 1: it works. This is you know, you want to be 777 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,279 Speaker 1: a talk show host, you just dive in all in 778 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:50,280 Speaker 1: after one game? Yeah, they got embarrassed by the Saints. Yeah. Yeah. 779 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 1: What happened to the Buccaneers last year? First twelve games 780 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,880 Speaker 1: of the season, they were a little better than average, 781 00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:58,880 Speaker 1: and then they didn't lose the game. Now do I 782 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 1: think that green is equal to the Buccaneers. I don't. 783 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,480 Speaker 1: But Green Bay has played well well enough to win 784 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,359 Speaker 1: these games, and that's all you want to do. Look 785 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,480 Speaker 1: at all these teams you're battling injuries. You know, here's Cleveland. 786 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,480 Speaker 1: This would be a game that you would have penciled 787 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,920 Speaker 1: in and said, oh, they're going to beat the Broncos. Well, 788 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,879 Speaker 1: there are two point favorites against the Broncos. Everybody's hurt. 789 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 1: And now there is a report. This is from Ian Rappaporta. 790 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 1: I just got this. Baker Mayfield expected to need surgery 791 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 1: on his torn labram following the seat Oh, I know 792 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,919 Speaker 1: he needs surgery. Sources say result of the hits he's 793 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 1: taken on his non throwing shoulder. The belief is he 794 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,040 Speaker 1: can deal with it through the season, but incurring more 795 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:46,400 Speaker 1: damage would make it challenging. Well, if I'm a defensive player, 796 00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 1: I have no problem grabbing him by that left shoulder. 797 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you're you're putting him out there. You're giving 798 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 1: me the green light to go right after that shoulder, 799 00:42:56,200 --> 00:43:00,399 Speaker 1: and they will absolutely do that. But yeah, he's gonna 800 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,719 Speaker 1: need surgery when you have a torn laboram even though 801 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 1: it's on your non passing shoulder. Yes, you're gonna need 802 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 1: surgery on that. And that is not fun to come 803 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:16,719 Speaker 1: back from where they basically tie your arm down, where 804 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 1: you can't do anything that's fun with that. I've been 805 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 1: through that before. Is Deshaun Watson gonna get traded? Is 806 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 1: it gonna get traded to Miami? It's too a gonna 807 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 1: get traded maybe to Washington. Find out next hour. Mike 808 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 1: Florio joins us