Speaker 1: They around the NFL podcast still believes in Sam Donald.
Speaker 2: Hell you from the Chris Westling podcast studio. It's around
Speaker 2: the NFL. I am Dan Hansas. I have Greg Rosenthal
Speaker 2: and Mark Sessler here, heroes, both of them. I do
Speaker 2: believe in Donald. Everyone knows that I've always believed in him.
Speaker 2: If he somehow has a like a genosience type situation,
Speaker 2: it's imagine how horrible I will be this year.
Speaker 1: Think about this, Think about the worst case scenario.
Speaker 2: If the Jets are good and Donald thrives as the
Speaker 2: start of the forty nine ers, I mean, what a monster.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Greg and Mark will be suffering from wire to wire.
Speaker 4: It would be like.
Speaker 5: The entire podcast from twenty and thirteen through twenty eighteen.
Speaker 4: Like I was and Gino last year.
Speaker 1: You deserve that that victory walk you got left.
Speaker 4: I didn't really done. Actually, I take that back, I
Speaker 4: could have.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: I was always very careful because you were always very
Speaker 5: sensitive as a Jets fan not to not to enjoy
Speaker 5: the Patriots thing too much. You're certainly not to point
Speaker 5: out the Jets foibles.
Speaker 3: I would say on the Geno front, you were thoroughly Yeah,
Speaker 3: Chrino is perfect thoroughly the perfect because that was such
Speaker 3: a do you also surprised?
Speaker 2: Do you want to parade for not rubbing it in
Speaker 2: my face that the jet gess suck during the Patriots
Speaker 2: Unreal Dynasty ending?
Speaker 4: Do yeah?
Speaker 5: Have to hold back your natural in my natural fandom.
Speaker 5: It made my life point three four percent less enjoyable
Speaker 5: during those shows, and that's not cool.
Speaker 2: But that would have been serious punching down back then
Speaker 2: because that Patriots Dynasty.
Speaker 5: Sure there were moments though, because you love to enjoy
Speaker 5: the bad moments of se you love to nail it
Speaker 5: when that when Brady lost to the Titans, I will
Speaker 5: always remember that you you treated that as a celebration
Speaker 5: and it hurt.
Speaker 3: But I I mean you also you announced that Brady's
Speaker 3: career was over in like twenty fourteen, which was lightly
Speaker 3: that's incorrect.
Speaker 1: It was I believe like twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2: It might have been around when was that that was well,
Speaker 2: that was my last task, that's right.
Speaker 5: I think it was actually twenty fifteen. If I had
Speaker 5: to guess that, you I think there were some yeah,
Speaker 5: it was, there were some things going down. You were
Speaker 5: gradual decline. They had won the title before, and you said,
Speaker 5: now now they're hitting the down slope.
Speaker 2: And yet, as all things do, it came to an
Speaker 2: end and now it's over.
Speaker 5: He's forty six years old today. By the way, I
Speaker 5: don't think that's on our news Rundown.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 5: Yeah, congratulations Tom Brady. He also bought a piece of
Speaker 5: some some soccer team, and Talk Sport UK wants to
Speaker 5: talk about it with me.
Speaker 4: I have no insight on the soccer team.
Speaker 2: I would love if we could just get a bit
Speaker 2: of a you know, quiet moratorium on super rich athletes
Speaker 2: buying pieces of soccer teams. Don't overseascer. I don't doesn't
Speaker 2: matter to me. I'm happy for them. I hope they're
Speaker 2: invested in it in a way that goes just beyond
Speaker 2: the monetary I just don't need to hear.
Speaker 3: I don't even know why you need to say that
Speaker 3: you're happy for them. I'm not. No, I feel nothing.
Speaker 1: Yeah're right, I feel nothing.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, good for you. You're able to do something.
Speaker 3: None of us ken financially, and I have no interest
Speaker 3: in your investment.
Speaker 2: But let's talk about people who are relevant in the NFL.
Speaker 2: Greg because Tom Brady no longer relevant on his birthday,
Speaker 2: you know who else's birthday. It is today, Zach Wilson
Speaker 2: turns twenty four years old. You know who's starting for
Speaker 2: the New York Jets tonight in the Hall of Fame
Speaker 2: game in Canton, Ohio. Jets B Browns, Zach Wilson, the
Speaker 2: past and yes one day perhaps future of the New
Speaker 2: York Jets.
Speaker 3: That might be the most That might be the most
Speaker 3: intriguing aspect to that game, because I think we're going
Speaker 3: to see essentially no other starter.
Speaker 1: I'm so scared about that. By the way, I mentioned the.
Speaker 6: Game.
Speaker 2: No, no, not scared. I'm scared of the offensive line
Speaker 2: not coming together. But it's Aaron Rodgers and the backup
Speaker 2: Zach Wilson. Like, for all the excitement, can we just
Speaker 2: stick them at number three?
Speaker 5: I mean, this is the day if you want an
Speaker 5: all time great quarterback, August third. I'm just saying, if
Speaker 5: you're thinking of having a child next year and you
Speaker 5: want to try to time it August third, It's true,
Speaker 5: Zach and Tom.
Speaker 2: By the way, it's been in Global Warming News, the
Speaker 2: hottest summer on record and like a century I believe
Speaker 2: maybe ever I don't have.
Speaker 1: The full data.
Speaker 2: It's been hot as hell coast to Coast, which is
Speaker 2: for training camps.
Speaker 1: Ripe for even more battles. You know, tempers flaring.
Speaker 2: You get the sun and the heat with competition and camp,
Speaker 2: and it leads to a lot of drama every year.
Speaker 1: It's part of it. This is what happened.
Speaker 2: This courtesy of Clarence Hill, who covers the Cowboys his
Speaker 2: Twitter or x is it his excellent whatever.
Speaker 1: Here we go.
Speaker 2: Here's Dak Prescott in the red practice jersey. They're near
Speaker 2: the goal line.
Speaker 1: He's he's forced out of the pocket. Rolling to his right.
Speaker 2: Makes a man miss taking out. Well, that didn't go
Speaker 2: so well, Trayvon Diggs. I don't think you could hear
Speaker 2: anything but Trayvon Diggs. Here's the transcript of what Diggs
Speaker 2: said to Prescott. Shut your bitch ass up. M I
Speaker 2: just want to say I love it. I love that
Speaker 2: these two superstars on the same team. That's how it
Speaker 2: goes in the summer, in these training camps, they are
Speaker 2: enemies for about six weeks or whatever until they have
Speaker 2: to be a brotherhood come week one. Trayvon Diggs to
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott, Deak Prescott, shut your ass up.
Speaker 3: I was at a restaurant yesterday and you know, there's
Speaker 3: always the.
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, where is this going?
Speaker 3: I wouldn't address him, no, But up on the screen
Speaker 3: was they had this story. Uh you know, it was
Speaker 3: like f S one or ESPN or something, and it was, uh,
Speaker 3: you know, is this a big deal in Dallas? Is
Speaker 3: this something to be concerned about because you have to always.
Speaker 4: Go a directionally?
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, but of course they're gonna do that.
Speaker 2: But like Skip day, Listen had exploded television, I think
Speaker 2: it's just it's part and parcel of August.
Speaker 5: It happens ten times a day, like at every camp practice.
Speaker 5: I don't know those exact words, but some sort of
Speaker 5: uh altercation or trash talk.
Speaker 1: I have fun when it's stars doing it, but it
Speaker 1: is not uncommon, at.
Speaker 5: Least in Cincinnati. I remember reading like the first day
Speaker 5: or two of camp like ORLANDA. Brown and Trey Hendrickson
Speaker 5: got into it almost right away because Trey Hendrickson is
Speaker 5: almost famous, and this is going back to do his
Speaker 5: New Orleans day and Cincinnati that like he goes insane
Speaker 5: and practice like trigger Tray.
Speaker 4: I think it's because he's got a trigger.
Speaker 1: You saying that again, Trigger Tray, why are you saying it?
Speaker 1: Like it's a you're.
Speaker 2: Dropping bars here in the studio to a tray.
Speaker 4: I don't know. Maybe that's because he's not like a
Speaker 4: hair trigger temper.
Speaker 5: I didn't even really think about it, but he just
Speaker 5: goes so hard that the first time you see it,
Speaker 5: it's almost like, what the hell man, Like it's almost
Speaker 5: too much.
Speaker 4: But people say, that's.
Speaker 1: Just sort of hair.
Speaker 5: That's just sort of how he is all the time,
Speaker 5: and it's helped him in his career. And and maybe
Speaker 5: trigger tray Von, how about.
Speaker 1: Oh pretty good hair trigger temper Tray.
Speaker 3: Let's roll off the tonguey.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's uh we have a great show
Speaker 2: coming up.
Speaker 1: Peter Sweeney, how great is this?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 2: Greg you brought him up in Passing a couple of
Speaker 2: days ago. What a great job he does over at
Speaker 2: Arrowhead Pride, Uh, covering in the Chiefs And let's check
Speaker 2: in with Peter Sweeney and the defending world champion Chiefs
Speaker 2: a little bit later. Also check in with Tony Fox,
Speaker 2: who's been traveling across this scorching nation visiting camps, and
Speaker 2: she's gonna check in and tell us what she's been
Speaker 2: up to, including, by the way, a wild road trip
Speaker 2: two person road trips.
Speaker 1: She was on you're gonna hear about But first of
Speaker 1: the news.
Speaker 6: This summer's two big movies. I don't know if you
Speaker 6: haven't a speaker or a movie. This summer's two big movies, Barbie,
Speaker 6: that wouldn't.
Speaker 1: Be one of them.
Speaker 6: Wouldn't be one of them. Okay, Oppenheimer's out, I've not
Speaker 6: seen that. That'd be interesting.
Speaker 2: So Scott Pioli, our own Scott Pioli there with NFL
Speaker 2: Plus goes way back the hours. Now, once upon a
Speaker 2: time he was Bill, So he feels confident asking Belichick
Speaker 2: greggive that question on the practice field and not worrying
Speaker 2: about being cast out of the Patriot Way forever Bill.
Speaker 2: They scold him privately after the interview. We don't know,
Speaker 2: But no Barbie for Bill. But he'll see Oppenheimer probably
Speaker 2: in the offseason.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 5: He loves to talk about and like old World War
Speaker 5: two era and history whatnot.
Speaker 4: If these books on the shelf.
Speaker 5: I think that's very much in Belichick's ali, But I
Speaker 5: wish he would open his mind to Barbie because I
Speaker 5: think it might hit more with the players if he
Speaker 5: was going to show one to the player or the other.
Speaker 5: I think it might be a good way to sort
Speaker 5: of trojan her some feminism into Bill Belichier.
Speaker 3: Why does he reject it out of hand?
Speaker 2: Well, I have a theory in certain corners of the
Speaker 2: culture wars, Barbie has developed a lot of heat and
Speaker 2: aggression from the conservatives about how the film presents and
Speaker 2: or something.
Speaker 5: I don't actively squash the movie's success. It really works.
Speaker 1: I don't know where where Belichick comes down.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, we know.
Speaker 4: He's you know, signs over.
Speaker 2: The years, So it's possible he's dismissed Barbie out of
Speaker 2: hand based on maybe a television cable channel he watches.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but i'd also I'd also suggest that
Speaker 3: probably Belichick hasn't spent ample time reading reviews of Barbie.
Speaker 3: I think it's like if you just thought there's a
Speaker 3: movie about Barbie the Doll, Like it's something more than that.
Speaker 3: There's different layers to it. I don't know if Belichick
Speaker 3: has gone down the road to discover what the movie
Speaker 3: might be about. So you just think it's Barbie the Doll.
Speaker 3: I don't want to see that, right.
Speaker 5: He probably hasn't gone back and watched Francis ha like,
Speaker 5: not familiar with.
Speaker 4: Like, oh wow, Greta Gerwig.
Speaker 5: Actually she did a great job modernizing Little Women, even
Speaker 5: though it was set back then, but making it kind
Speaker 5: of relevant for today.
Speaker 4: Let's see what's happening. Maybe is not thinking you've.
Speaker 2: Seen both films? Mark, Yeah, better use of your twenty dollars?
Speaker 3: Which of the two films?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can only see one.
Speaker 2: And I'm not talking about artistically in terms of obviously
Speaker 2: Christopher Nolans you know.
Speaker 1: Gift right, So was Gerwig like, what is if you
Speaker 1: I see one? All right?
Speaker 3: Well, I don't you know, that's an interesting off the fence.
Speaker 3: Bro I think Oppenheimer like, it does everything that you expect,
Speaker 3: and it did everything that I thought it would do. Barbie,
Speaker 3: I think I would give a little bit of a
Speaker 3: nudge to Barbie over Oppenheimer kind of like, uh, I
Speaker 3: didn't know.
Speaker 1: What Maybe it's time for another Belichick letter to Bill
Speaker 1: let him know.
Speaker 3: Wait, Like, what if I, honestly I will write him
Speaker 3: a letter telling him why you should see Barbie? What
Speaker 3: if I actually do write that, we'll do that. I'll
Speaker 3: do that.
Speaker 1: Can you read it on the show and we'll send
Speaker 1: it off.
Speaker 3: But yes, I will absolutely send this.
Speaker 2: Rapaport rap Shoot was on the show last week and
Speaker 2: he said, if we honestly and in good faith reached
Speaker 2: out to Belichick or his people or the Patriots, maybe
Speaker 2: not the Patriots, if we can find a way to
Speaker 2: get a little bit closer, he might come on the show.
Speaker 3: If we know something not football, we cannot ask a
Speaker 3: single football question. It had to be another topic that
Speaker 3: he's drafted to.
Speaker 4: Eric, maybe world War two.
Speaker 1: The ask has to be out about Barbenheimer.
Speaker 2: I know it's a little past its due date in
Speaker 2: terms of pop culture that conversation, but just in general,
Speaker 2: maybe talking films.
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll get him during a training camp week one.
Speaker 3: I think we're I think we're a couple of months
Speaker 3: off target on that. It would have been probably better
Speaker 3: in May or June. But like you're right, well why
Speaker 3: not try? But I will write.
Speaker 1: Good, good good.
Speaker 2: Ron Rivera, he was on our show yesterday kind of
Speaker 2: did our press conferences.
Speaker 1: That was fun.
Speaker 2: He is and in that fake press conference he talked
Speaker 2: about Sam Howell, the second year quarterback, former fifth round pick,
Speaker 2: and of course Jacoby Brissette, the veteran, the well tried.
Speaker 2: He's officially a well traveled veteran. Jacoby Brissett, but he's
Speaker 2: been effective pretty much everywhere he's ever played.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Here is what Ron Rivera had to say about this
Speaker 2: QB battle, which a lot of people think it's Hal's
Speaker 2: job to lose.
Speaker 1: But Rivera, he says, hold your horses, bra.
Speaker 7: As I've said a couple don't sleep on Jacoby. He's
Speaker 7: done a nice job as well. I mean, we got
Speaker 7: some really good quarterback play going on right now. We've
Speaker 7: got a real good quarterback room. We're very happy with
Speaker 7: what we've got right now.
Speaker 4: That was sorry to step on Frags is beautiful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, never can't do that. This is this is not
Speaker 1: like fighting in training camp. Mark. This is nothing new.
Speaker 2: We've been covering bad camp battles for a long time
Speaker 2: at the quarterback position, and coaches talking themselves or trying
Speaker 2: to talk the media into it not being a major concern.
Speaker 1: This one continues.
Speaker 2: I continue to bump up again against it, especially in
Speaker 2: a very difficult division. I think the commanders are in
Speaker 2: for trouble. But maybe maybe he's right and everyone's wrong.
Speaker 3: I Mean, the one thing I'd point to is that
Speaker 3: last year in Cleveland, under the direction of Kevin Stefanski,
Speaker 3: Jacoby Brissett tenth and epa per drop back effective week
Speaker 3: to week, an incredible teammate. But actually I thought his
Speaker 3: best work as a quarterback came last season. So it's like,
Speaker 3: I don't think this is completely untrue. I just think
Speaker 3: in general, year to year Washington under Ron River, it's
Speaker 3: like you're heat seeking the most milk toast quarterback situation
Speaker 3: all the time, Like why you you've drafted no one.
Speaker 3: You can say what you want about Jacoby Brissett, but
Speaker 3: he's still going to be a middle of the pack
Speaker 3: guy on a team that has no quarterback.
Speaker 5: I just thought those quotes who are like push it,
Speaker 5: you know, it was just textbook coach trying to say
Speaker 5: the nice thing while thinking haamnahamanahama. Because the reports and
Speaker 5: why I think it's notable is the reports out of
Speaker 5: Washington is it's been pretty uneven and Jacoby Brissett hasn't
Speaker 5: looked great either. That the offense has been struggling, which
Speaker 5: is not a huge shock with that defensive line there.
Speaker 5: They're in the same defense for the fourth street year,
Speaker 5: and people kind of look past the Eric b Enemy
Speaker 5: is running an offense for the first time. It's a
Speaker 5: very different offense than what Scott Turner. So there's an
Speaker 5: adjustment period, but I think it's notable that it's looked
Speaker 5: pretty rocky. You got like the scrimmages coming up, but
Speaker 5: just like a little bit of a QB battle check in.
Speaker 5: We mentioned we hadn't heard too much about Trask Mayfield,
Speaker 5: like there haven't been screaming headlines. It seems to me
Speaker 5: like Richardson, Anthony Richardson is pushing forward in his quest
Speaker 5: to become the Week one guy.
Speaker 4: But we'll find out more.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I read that Baker has been struggling with turnovers
Speaker 2: in camp. The door should be open for Trask or
Speaker 2: at least to see some type is split there. In
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers, we touched on that recently. That's
Speaker 2: the other like.
Speaker 3: Doors open because the house is on fire.
Speaker 4: Where in Tampa you're saying, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Don't try to sell me on that situation.
Speaker 4: Occasionally they said, uh yeah, as we mentioned.
Speaker 1: Windows getting thrown over, getting some.
Speaker 5: Snaps there with Evans and Godwin, so uh, they said,
Speaker 5: throw it into the competitive cauldron.
Speaker 4: The competition cauldron.
Speaker 1: I love the competition cauldron. We need to build out
Speaker 1: a drop for that.
Speaker 2: People are like picking up end tables and throwing them
Speaker 2: through glass to try to escape people running through the
Speaker 2: sliding door. It's like that full run like you see
Speaker 2: in like a YouTube video right home.
Speaker 1: That's accidents.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the preseason matters for what for Howell
Speaker 5: more than most there's not too many preseasons that matters
Speaker 5: you guys.
Speaker 1: Ever walked through a screen door?
Speaker 3: I walked into ones very absolutely. I will a notable.
Speaker 3: This event happened to me in six.
Speaker 4: I've walked into a door. What were you saying?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 3: But it was in the sixth grade, like in someone's
Speaker 3: house where it was like they're like someone's playing music
Speaker 3: on a boom box and you're like slow dancing with
Speaker 3: people and all that kind of thing. And then like
Speaker 3: I'm going to go out to the porch and I
Speaker 3: walk right into a screen door. Just a disaster.
Speaker 4: At what a disaster Emica and I had sort of.
Speaker 1: Pretty the sixth grade party. It's terrible.
Speaker 3: It's like, call my mom, come pick me up. I'm
Speaker 3: out of here, walk into the ocean, take me out.
Speaker 4: Like it broke, it's done. I mean I didn't.
Speaker 3: That's the other thing, Like if I were powerful enough
Speaker 3: that I broke the screen, that would have met Okay,
Speaker 3: I didn't. I just bounced off it and kind of
Speaker 3: went backwards.
Speaker 4: At our way.
Speaker 5: We had a party in the town I grew up in, Wilbraham.
Speaker 5: My parents no longer lived there. With Western Massachusetts farmtown Dan,
Speaker 5: you would like that turkey farms apples on a peach,
Speaker 5: that's wholesome. We had a little party to like celebrate
Speaker 5: us getting married because we were getting married here in
Speaker 5: California with people that were from there. And my twelve
Speaker 5: year old cousin ran through and broke our screen door
Speaker 5: at our house, and like and my mom legit was
Speaker 5: like kind of mad at him and didn't seem to
Speaker 5: really forgive him easily. She was too hard, And I'm like,
Speaker 5: he's a kid, he's a kid.
Speaker 4: Just calm down.
Speaker 5: But they were like pretty hard that he destroyed the
Speaker 5: screen door.
Speaker 4: It's wherever and and our party.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, as a dad who had a screen door in
Speaker 2: my previous residence and I had young sons that just
Speaker 2: walked through, that's that's eighty dollars repair and taking it
Speaker 2: off the track and then and you have to transport
Speaker 2: it to the hardware store unless you could do yourself,
Speaker 2: which I wasn't gonna do, got to bring it back.
Speaker 1: It's a whole nightmare.
Speaker 3: It's a chore.
Speaker 2: I in the same category before we move on. Junior
Speaker 2: year of high school. I'm at a high school party,
Speaker 2: a summer party in a backyard. It's my friend Sarah.
Speaker 2: She was my junior prom date. So there was some
Speaker 2: heat at the time around just being in this house
Speaker 2: for a party. There's a hammock in the backyard. I
Speaker 2: go to PLoP down in the hammock and I tumble
Speaker 2: knock the whole hammock over. And then her older brother Chris,
Speaker 2: a guy I kind of thought was a cool guy,
Speaker 2: and he was a cool guy. He he came up
Speaker 2: to me and was like Dan, like, no one's ever
Speaker 2: been able to knock that hammock over. So, in addition
Speaker 2: to being very embarrassing, it was like, Dan, you must
Speaker 2: be like seven hundred pounds like you took out the hammock.
Speaker 2: So it was like just a low moment embarrassing. These
Speaker 2: are wounds, like you remember exactly how you felt when
Speaker 2: you went through that screen door. Yeah, and I could
Speaker 2: still picture that hammock going on me in a big spot.
Speaker 3: Never really healed from any of it.
Speaker 4: And it's a tough one.
Speaker 1: In other news, Alvin Kamar is on a tough spot.
Speaker 2: Because, as you may or may not know, that he
Speaker 2: was involved in a skirmish in Las Vegas around the
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl. It was a felony that he pled down
Speaker 2: to a misdemeanor evolving the assault of an individual. So
Speaker 2: the legal sides resolved, but the NFL side of it
Speaker 2: in terms of discipline, remains up in the air. Here
Speaker 2: is the latest on that Kamara met with Commissioner Roger
Speaker 2: Goodell on Wednesday in New York regarding the incident that
Speaker 2: happened last February, and we shall see raps. She'd said
Speaker 2: on Inside Training Camp Live this morning that in terms
Speaker 2: of a projection, there is the understanding this will be
Speaker 2: a suspension.
Speaker 1: Is it gonna be two games, four games, six games?
Speaker 2: They don't know, Ian said, And this was interesting to
Speaker 2: me Mark that you know, it kind of depends on
Speaker 2: how Camara could give Goodell some understanding on how this happened.
Speaker 2: I don't know how you spin something like this, but
Speaker 2: it could make a determination of how long one of
Speaker 2: the Saints' best players is on the field.
Speaker 3: So it's tough for when there's video to try to
Speaker 3: spin it in any way. I mean, I guess you know,
Speaker 3: these suspensions, there's no real roadmap for us to know
Speaker 3: how long they'll be. I don't know what you can
Speaker 3: say to the commissioner to affect him in one way
Speaker 3: or the one way or the other he was asking
Speaker 3: for commission I well, I guess if anything, if you
Speaker 3: come with if you're contrite, if you really are, if
Speaker 3: you if you're back on the situation and say like
Speaker 3: I'm taking accountability for it. I made a mistake, I
Speaker 3: want to correct it, blah blah blah. But like you know,
Speaker 3: we've seen some players were suspended in the last couple
Speaker 3: of years where it's like you get their explanation, they
Speaker 3: seem to have no accountability. All right, Well here, where
Speaker 3: are you coming from?
Speaker 1: On that one?
Speaker 5: He tried to end the legal process as quickly as
Speaker 5: he could with accountability through a lawyer pleading no contests
Speaker 5: and had to pay the victim one hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 5: UH and serve thirty hours of community service. So I
Speaker 5: think he's tried to get this process through. It might
Speaker 5: not be the worst thing in the world for Alvin
Speaker 5: Kamara to skip a couple of games considering his age.
Speaker 5: But my god, there's been some chatter at Saints training camp.
Speaker 5: But I've got to say, I know you don't want
Speaker 5: to fall for those little clips or something, but I
Speaker 5: think you can sometimes see them things.
Speaker 4: In those little clips.
Speaker 5: The year, like last year, we've looked at Saquon, We're like, actually,
Speaker 5: Saquon kind of looks like again.
Speaker 4: And he looked like Saquon again.
Speaker 5: Alvin Kamara looked like Alvin Kamara juice. He looked like
Speaker 5: the juice is back, and they're okay. In the meantime,
Speaker 5: Jamal Williams our friend.
Speaker 1: Is there, Jamal Williams is there?
Speaker 2: Obviously a lot of talk about the rookie they brought
Speaker 2: in as well as Kendry Miller. Yeah, I think you
Speaker 2: know you and I are on other sides of the fence,
Speaker 2: Greg And what is Kamara in twenty twenty three superstar
Speaker 2: or not? If he you don't have to give him
Speaker 2: like Derrek Henry touches and they haven't really for him
Speaker 2: to be highly effective, maybe you just work him into
Speaker 2: the offense in a different way and he's better than ever.
Speaker 5: Could I have waited around before taking Kamara in our
Speaker 5: running back draft? That we did, and I think perhaps
Speaker 5: you could have am I more said, was a disaster
Speaker 5: for you. That's what you guys think.
Speaker 1: Did you take Jonathan Taylor?
Speaker 5: I took Taylor too, and I don't care. We we
Speaker 5: haven't gotten to the football yet. We haven't gotten to
Speaker 5: the football. Am I more confident and more surprised at
Speaker 5: low back of any take I had all off season?
Speaker 5: Then that Alvin Kamara is like a top ten running back?
Speaker 5: Give me a break. Kamara is gonna smoke all of you.
Speaker 5: And I'm gonna be as obnoxious about him this year as.
Speaker 1: I was about what happens if.
Speaker 5: Really terrible, like he's literally never had under thirteen hundred
Speaker 5: yards in a season.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he's really fallen off. He's coming back.
Speaker 3: Well, maybe we don't see him til week seven, so
Speaker 3: at least we can fend off.
Speaker 4: Your I'm putting it over under and a half game.
Speaker 2: Is your other running back you took in that draft?
Speaker 2: Is he going to play this year? So so far
Speaker 2: we don't. We don't have confirmation that either of those.
Speaker 4: It took bijonright number two.
Speaker 3: All right, it's a disastrous episode for Greg.
Speaker 4: I am looking forward to Camara.
Speaker 5: Jonathan Taylor having incredible seasons together and me honking about it.
Speaker 5: It's gonna give some juice to that running back draft.
Speaker 3: You know that it bugged him, it killed him, It
Speaker 3: ate him up.
Speaker 4: They made a.
Speaker 3: Graphic, put it out on Instagram, and he's getting killed
Speaker 3: by the public.
Speaker 1: Just destroyed, roasted daily.
Speaker 2: Finally, in the news, Desmond speaking of underwhelming quarterback battles,
Speaker 2: Desmond Ritter, it's not even a battle because the second
Speaker 2: round quarterback, after taking over for Marcus Mariota late last season,
Speaker 2: is locked and loaded as the QB one. In Atlanta,
Speaker 2: Arthur Blank, the owner of the Falcons, came out and
Speaker 2: told reporters that he saw Ridd as a franchise.
Speaker 1: QB former third round pick.
Speaker 2: Here is what Rider had to say about I felt
Speaker 2: good about the big man upstairs saying that not God,
Speaker 2: Arthur Blank.
Speaker 8: Yeah, obviously for me, you know that that's covering for me,
Speaker 8: you know, obviously knowing that you know, mister Blank and
Speaker 8: everyone in the organization believes in me, and you know
Speaker 8: my skill set, and then you know, at the end
Speaker 8: of the day, for myself, it's about you know, putting
Speaker 8: the higher expectation. You know, even what they have for
Speaker 8: myself and going out and trying to exceed that and
Speaker 8: be better.
Speaker 1: What's U the mean about.
Speaker 5: Someone who never heard I didn't know much about him
Speaker 5: Desmond Ridder's voice before.
Speaker 1: Do you I never saw him like with the helmet
Speaker 1: off talking like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's Mahomesy in the voice a little bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's from that neighborhood a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, certainly, And it's not been a problem for mahomes.
Speaker 5: I mean I always got on Tom Brady's cadence and
Speaker 5: the whole look got a voice gotta caught me off guard,
Speaker 5: graatest of all time?
Speaker 4: What do you mean?
Speaker 5: Okay, I don't know, there is something straight. I don't
Speaker 5: know why that the word comfort?
Speaker 2: I think like, well, Dave Eely just came into the newsroom.
Speaker 2: Why okay, I mean it came in behind the glass.
Speaker 1: What's going on?
Speaker 4: This is a surprise? Why is he doing this?
Speaker 3: This is a bigger Knives item than the Desmond behind
Speaker 3: the glass?
Speaker 4: Well, I was got a call.
Speaker 5: I was bringing in Ealy as a surprise for after
Speaker 5: the news. But we can we can interrupt it with
Speaker 5: with Eeli. Now I think it's developing.
Speaker 4: If we need to get back to Ritter, we could interrupt.
Speaker 1: I don't think we have to get back to Ridder
Speaker 1: good luck to you. So we have.
Speaker 3: For the third show.
Speaker 5: Heally came to Mark and I to give some context
Speaker 5: of something he wanted in today's show, and it felt uncomfortable.
Speaker 5: We were like, Eally, why don't you just come on
Speaker 5: if you want to? Oh, I love this idea.
Speaker 3: I didn't propose to Dave. How are you to be
Speaker 3: in the show?
Speaker 1: Great?
Speaker 9: You know, just it tc going well, it's a good time.
Speaker 4: He runs the newsroom over there, the news.
Speaker 1: Does it beautifully.
Speaker 2: Dave, we worked at Forever famously had a girlfriend that
Speaker 2: left him.
Speaker 1: Now she's married to somebody else, and the Panthers almost
Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl a few years back. I think
Speaker 1: we're caught up.
Speaker 9: Really, I think the listeners forgot my backstory. So I'm
Speaker 9: glad to.
Speaker 1: Pick it up again.
Speaker 9: Dave.
Speaker 1: We love you. What's up?
Speaker 9: It's just you know something I've noticed this week. You
Speaker 9: guys are doing a lot of shows, so that means
Speaker 9: you're here in the office a lot, and Mark and
Speaker 9: Greg on multiple occasions have made it a point to
Speaker 9: come through the newsroom. We've had some conversations and it's
Speaker 9: just kind of dawn on me that you haven't. So
Speaker 9: I just want to know if Arthen's good. Have you
Speaker 9: forgotten we've come from?
Speaker 1: This is what this is about.
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know it's as someone who's pad three instagrams
Speaker 9: about integrity this week. It's just it's not squaring to me.
Speaker 9: So I want to know what's up.
Speaker 4: Common man rankings taking a hit.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's fair, that's absolutely fair. I apologize.
Speaker 2: I should be more attached to the newsroom where I
Speaker 2: got my start at this company. Now as the host
Speaker 2: of the program, a lot of pre show work, and
Speaker 2: I'm always as Eric, you know, we're just going through
Speaker 2: or cranking through content, a lot of research, a lot
Speaker 2: of building out the show. I actually have two tapings today.
Speaker 2: I'm recording two separate podcasts.
Speaker 9: Saying that you're busier than Mark and Greg.
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit a little bit right now today
Speaker 1: I am busy.
Speaker 5: Well, would you deny that you are always the last
Speaker 5: in the building out of the three of us. So
Speaker 5: if you got there earlier, that would give you a
Speaker 5: little time to to schmooth counterpoint.
Speaker 1: Well, that is that's now.
Speaker 2: Now you're talking about what's the preferred place to do
Speaker 2: your pre work?
Speaker 1: Ahead of the show. I choose to do it away
Speaker 1: from the office and away from distractions.
Speaker 9: Oh so we're a distraction.
Speaker 2: Uh, you can be at times. Not you in particular,
Speaker 2: but a lot of people. If I try to get
Speaker 2: here early for saying, go to say and go and
Speaker 2: sit at my desk, I don't I love it, But
Speaker 2: like I'm trying to, like get ready for the show.
Speaker 3: And there's just a lot of people want to a
Speaker 3: lot of people.
Speaker 1: Don't stop ice. And I love talking. I love chopping
Speaker 1: it up with the people that I work with.
Speaker 2: I I would say that I have a more I
Speaker 2: have a more friendly demeanor than either of these two guys.
Speaker 9: I like, yeah, I told, I told Dave the spin
Speaker 9: coming from Dan right now?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I told.
Speaker 1: I love chopping it up with colleagues. I love the
Speaker 1: office setting colleagues, he loves the people.
Speaker 3: I predicted this would not go well, and I feel
Speaker 3: like my prediction is that.
Speaker 1: What do you mean not go well?
Speaker 3: I mean there's no way, there's no way that this
Speaker 3: is going to end with any I don't know what
Speaker 3: you're aiming for, David early and trying to.
Speaker 9: Get dan apology, Mark, do you want to go back
Speaker 9: to desbon rider talk.
Speaker 2: No, I don't so I do appreciate, but if you
Speaker 2: want an apology, yes, I'm going to make more of
Speaker 2: an effort to stop in and say hi.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I was like this, it's a business relationship, you know,
Speaker 9: this business is about relationships.
Speaker 2: But like cessa like eats his lunch in a car,
Speaker 2: basically I did that once.
Speaker 1: It's like, why am I the guy?
Speaker 9: We're okay?
Speaker 4: I've also that got.
Speaker 5: The biggest producer room laugh that we've had in a
Speaker 5: long time.
Speaker 4: That was good. We need.
Speaker 2: I'm not pointing out I'm not trying to go after you, Mark,
Speaker 2: but I'm just saying, why am I being targeted as
Speaker 2: being detached when he's.
Speaker 9: Going Because they've talked to us, We've seen them this week.
Speaker 5: This is what he this is what he was looking for.
Speaker 5: You asked what David Eely was looking for. Mark was like,
Speaker 5: I am not doing that, David early and I thought, yeah,
Speaker 5: why don't definitely ide I'll.
Speaker 3: Tell you why because I'm going to give you the act.
Speaker 3: Let's be fair and balanced. I think that Dan historically
Speaker 3: is probably more of a stopover, talk to people in
Speaker 3: the office guy than I am. So I was not
Speaker 3: its claiming arrow into Dan's like you know, mid section
Speaker 3: in more so.
Speaker 1: In Culver old our old offices, and you know what, again,
Speaker 1: that was a different environment.
Speaker 2: I think I missed those days in Culver, the more
Speaker 2: or intimate setting. It was just a different time. It
Speaker 2: doesn't mean we can't try to do the same thing here,
Speaker 2: but sometimes you can't get back to the way things were.
Speaker 9: I know, you know, it's progress is only forward.
Speaker 2: There was a period where there are no reverse gears
Speaker 2: in this tank when Greg was our boss.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he had to have a somewhat stern interaction with
Speaker 3: Dave Danischek to stop talking to us because like news
Speaker 3: would be breaking, but we would just be talking to
Speaker 3: Dave for fifty to sixty minutes in a row. Those
Speaker 3: days are over.
Speaker 5: I'm much happier now. I'm leading the stop By power rankings.
Speaker 5: Everything's easier.
Speaker 2: I'll be better because I know you like if you
Speaker 2: want to rank like best stop Eyes, I'm beating out Greg.
Speaker 1: I'm a better stop By guy.
Speaker 9: I mean, my memory is not that good, so I
Speaker 9: don't know.
Speaker 4: There we go.
Speaker 1: I'm going to work on it all right.
Speaker 9: I appreciate that. Thank you for having me on, I
Speaker 9: said my piece back to your schedule programming.
Speaker 1: All right, there we go, Dave early, good appearance.
Speaker 2: This guest is, uh, you want coverage of the Kansas
Speaker 2: City Chiefs, the defending Super Bowl champions. It's not gonna
Speaker 2: get much better than Peter Sweeney, the editor in chief
Speaker 2: and lead writer for Arrowhead Pride, and now he joins
Speaker 2: us on around on around the NFL. Welcome Pete, thank you,
Speaker 2: thank you for having me a lot of sexual energy with.
Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 2: It's a Marshack test for guests. Yes, we already like it,
Speaker 2: but we've mentioned right before we started. You're at miss
Speaker 2: Missouri Western State University, which is where and you Reid
Speaker 2: uh sends his team during training camp. It's it's kind
Speaker 2: of out of fashion now for teams, uh to. You know,
Speaker 2: a lot of teams now just train at their team facilities.
Speaker 2: But Reid still sees as an old school guy. I
Speaker 2: guess value in at and you're in a what looks
Speaker 2: like an old cafeteria, and it seems very spartan in
Speaker 2: general for a team of this level, including the team
Speaker 2: that has perhaps the greatest quarterback who ever lived, eating
Speaker 2: in a mess hall.
Speaker 10: I can see you, guys.
Speaker 11: I'll describe it to the west here of Patrick.
Speaker 5: You can move your camera if you want, if you why, Yeah,
Speaker 5: this is really going to help the YouTube subscribers here
Speaker 5: see this.
Speaker 4: Wow, very humble.
Speaker 10: That's where the chiefs you know, eat and then a
Speaker 10: Starbucks is closed right now because there's no college students here.
Speaker 11: So ay, he likes to keep it old school, as
Speaker 11: I was mentioning, and I think he's been doing it
Speaker 11: for twenty plus years. I think it dates back to
Speaker 11: the Eagles, and not a lot of teams are doing
Speaker 11: it anymore. But he seems to really like the camaraderie.
Speaker 11: It's that thought process of you leave maybe as individuals,
Speaker 11: but you come back a team because they have the
Speaker 11: cafeteria and they're eating all their meals together, and they
Speaker 11: have dorms together. And so he likes he likes it,
Speaker 11: and it's working, especially these these past recent years.
Speaker 5: It's it's a little next level though with the dorms.
Speaker 5: There's very few teams that are still doing that. But
Speaker 5: it kind of coincides with something I've seen in terms
Speaker 5: of the coverage of practice. And Yeah, people should check
Speaker 5: out Arro because you really go in depth. You do
Speaker 5: a good job of saying everything that's have practice, but
Speaker 5: also some summaries of trends, who's who's looking good, who's not.
Speaker 5: And one thing I think is different about the Chiefs
Speaker 5: than other teams is they're given a max I think
Speaker 5: of four hours total and of some different portions of practice.
Speaker 5: And Andy Reid is very much practically the only guy
Speaker 5: left who just tries to use all those for hours.
Speaker 5: And you hear about when they actually put the pads
Speaker 5: on and you're and you're listening to like how these
Speaker 5: days are? It all feels very out of the nineties,
Speaker 5: even the two thousands, even teams like the Patriots aren't
Speaker 5: really like that anymore.
Speaker 4: So I guess just describe what's that? Like, what what's
Speaker 4: the thing in the play?
Speaker 5: Don't mind it because a lot of these teams are
Speaker 5: getting in and out of the off the field in
Speaker 5: like ninety minutes, and the Chiefs are just out there
Speaker 5: forever in the heat. But obviously it's worked pretty well.
Speaker 11: Yeah, Andy Reid, I think you always hear about the
Speaker 11: Andy Reid camp, and in talking to some guys who
Speaker 11: have not been career Chiefs, that's the key. They do
Speaker 11: confirm that it just adds another layer and the whole
Speaker 11: thought jure.
Speaker 5: Trenkels was mentioning like that this is absolutely brutal compared
Speaker 5: to like the Chargers, which.
Speaker 1: Was like a breeze.
Speaker 11: Yeah, the whole thought process is like we're playing into
Speaker 11: January and February. Let's make sure that we can breathe
Speaker 11: on the field. Let's make sure we still have some energy.
Speaker 11: Then if you go through this process, and I mean
Speaker 11: sometimes the real feel hits like one hundred, one hundred
Speaker 11: and one oh one by the time the practice was over.
Speaker 11: He keeps the guys out there. I remember guys throwing
Speaker 11: up last year. We already had someone throw up this
Speaker 11: year at the beginning of camp. And it's so that
Speaker 11: this is the hardest part of the year. And that's
Speaker 11: how he designs it as a little old school as
Speaker 11: you were saying, it's a little bit like high school
Speaker 11: college football. But he wants them to have that energy
Speaker 11: for you know, for the Chiefs, they usually end up playing,
Speaker 11: of course, the seventeen games, but they want to play eighteen,
Speaker 11: nineteen twenty, and so I think all that goes in today.
Speaker 11: For example, they had a sixteen play long period with
Speaker 11: Patrick Mahomes and the.
Speaker 10: First team offense. At this stage of his career.
Speaker 11: Patrick Mahomes doesn't need to be on eleven and eleven
Speaker 11: for sixteen straight plays, but they're like, now you're gonna
Speaker 11: earn it too, And it doesn't matter that he's two
Speaker 11: time MVP.
Speaker 3: I mean, I know, you know, reading reports of the
Speaker 3: overall aura of this camp that's been it's been real testy.
Speaker 3: I think there were three days in a row where
Speaker 3: there were fights, but Andy Reid's response to that sort
Speaker 3: of seemed to be total delight, where I know you
Speaker 3: sort of screaming like edge edge edge edge. It's like,
Speaker 3: is this how how is Andy Reid creating like the
Speaker 3: next frontier of like we've already achieved these Super Bowl wins?
Speaker 3: How do you make it fresh? Start over?
Speaker 9: Is it?
Speaker 3: This?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 3: This aggressiveness in camp because like a lot of these
Speaker 3: other camps, to Greg's point, like it's ninety minutes and
Speaker 3: it's hit the road and it's like keep play, Layers say,
Speaker 3: and off the field, I the Chiefs seem to be
Speaker 3: going all in on ultra madness.
Speaker 11: Yeah, So there's two points there. First, in the testiness,
Speaker 11: Travis Kelcey was getting involved in a lot of it,
Speaker 11: and I don't know if it's a Steve Spagnolo emphasis
Speaker 11: this year that says we're going to force turnovers and
Speaker 11: we wanted to be going even past the whistle. But
Speaker 11: for some reason, even the backups of the backups of
Speaker 11: the backups, everyone's grabby this year. They're poking the ball
Speaker 11: out and Travis Kelce's in his eleventh year. We're very
Speaker 11: old now Travis kel season is eleventh year and he
Speaker 11: has he's backups poking the ball out. So eventually you
Speaker 11: know he's gotten upset. And then I also noticed that
Speaker 11: there's a young player's been with the Chiefs a few
Speaker 11: years trying to push to make the roster, DiCaprio Bootle,
Speaker 11: probably like your six or seven quarterback. He is just
Speaker 11: chirping wall Camp and he's had Richie James and in
Speaker 11: his face. He's had other receivers that are not too
Speaker 11: pleased with the smack talk. And so when it's hot,
Speaker 11: you have the pads on. Finally you know you get
Speaker 11: some of that and you're right with the Andy Reid porch.
Speaker 10: You'd mentioned the.
Speaker 11: Edge, So Andy Reid, I don't know if you guys
Speaker 11: know this. Every year has a year's slogan. Again, you
Speaker 11: talk about the old school stuff, and this slogan is
Speaker 11: all over the walls. A couple of years back they
Speaker 11: ended up failing, but for example, that was running back.
Speaker 11: The Edge thing you mentioned that was last year's slogan
Speaker 11: and it actually is etched on the inside of the
Speaker 11: Super Bowl ring.
Speaker 10: If you look at the Super Bowl ring, Helly edges
Speaker 10: Edged there. And I believe this year's is United. I'm
Speaker 10: pretty sure I'll have to like double check.
Speaker 6: But that is now.
Speaker 10: They won the championship with Edge. They don't keep it
Speaker 10: just because they won. They have a new theme for
Speaker 10: the year.
Speaker 1: It gets better.
Speaker 2: I mean the Rams, for instance, have a T shirt
Speaker 2: that has a paragraph on the back of it. And
Speaker 2: how about Edge. That's great, you put it on the
Speaker 2: ring United.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 2: You mentioned the defense. Pete and Justin Reid standout safety tweeted.
Speaker 2: Defense is a real chance to be really special this year.
Speaker 2: Got to keep earning it every day. First, well, first,
Speaker 2: I just wanted to say, if I'm a Chiefs fan,
Speaker 2: I'm loving everything PIEZWEENI saying right now because it sounds
Speaker 2: like this team is not complacent any way, And I
Speaker 2: know you can sometimes that's typical summer training camp talk,
Speaker 2: but I feel good about Ivuma Chiefs and that this
Speaker 2: team is looking to do something special. They want to
Speaker 2: be the next Patriots. Now at this point with the
Speaker 2: two rings, what do you think about the defense? Do
Speaker 2: you see this as a potential special unit or is
Speaker 2: it still going to be a team that's known for
Speaker 2: Mahomes and what he does.
Speaker 11: I think it's special when you talk about what the
Speaker 11: Chiefs have been in the era of Mahomes since he
Speaker 11: took over a starter of twenty eighteen, I think there
Speaker 11: is like you talk about ceilings this time of year,
Speaker 11: I think the offensive line on the defense has the
Speaker 11: highest ceiling it's might have had for Patrick Mahomes in
Speaker 11: this era, and the defense in particular. All these guys
Speaker 11: were really young last year and a lot of them
Speaker 11: have a year under their belt, especially the cornerback room
Speaker 11: where you had Trent McDuffie really emerging. L. Jerry Sneed
Speaker 11: is not really a household name, but he's been really
Speaker 11: good for the Chiefs. Bick Bolton and Willie Gabe combined,
Speaker 11: Now for what will be the their third year, they
Speaker 11: bring in true tranquill So in the division, you go
Speaker 11: and get another teams leading tackler up front. You got
Speaker 11: to get Chris Jones in camp. That situation is a
Speaker 11: little weird. I'm sure you guys gonna want to talk
Speaker 11: about that a little bit. But once he does, you
Speaker 11: know you're surrounding him with George Carloftis, who was really
Speaker 11: good last year. I think an underrated signing was Charles's
Speaker 11: Menyu who can go inside outside. I think the Chiefs
Speaker 11: actually like a more inside.
Speaker 10: Next to Chris Jones.
Speaker 11: But right now they have injuries to Mike Dana and
Speaker 11: another defensive end, and so they are many who was
Speaker 11: injured today, So they've been mixing and matching with Josh Kando,
Speaker 11: who's way lesser known, and Emilee Carring. But I think
Speaker 11: they feel like once they have a men of you
Speaker 11: and Dana and Carloftis and Jones and everybody back, and
Speaker 11: you put Derek Noddy in that mix, they're gonna be
Speaker 11: good upfront. They feel really good about their second level
Speaker 11: and their third level is young and upcoming, and though
Speaker 11: it's not as well known, I just think Justin Reid
Speaker 11: looks at it and says, now, I've been training Brian Cook.
Speaker 11: Remember wan Thornhill went to the Cleveland Browns. I've been
Speaker 11: training Brian Cook to be next to me all of
Speaker 11: last year. They added Mike Edwards, who had seven interceptions
Speaker 11: with the Bucks and his four year tenure, and so
Speaker 11: they just really feel like they have all the pieces.
Speaker 11: And this was interesting by just Neurie, just to close
Speaker 11: this point. I think he is a nice pick for
Speaker 11: I guess this would be a bold prediction for being
Speaker 11: a first team All Pro because he said he didn't
Speaker 11: really have a full grasp of the Kansas City defense
Speaker 11: until the Bengals game last year, which was pretty late
Speaker 11: in the season, and so now he feels like he's
Speaker 11: not having to think about where he has to be
Speaker 11: getting guys into position, and so you feel really good
Speaker 11: about the ceiling. But at this stage of the game,
Speaker 11: we haven't even played a preseason game. We'll have to see,
Speaker 11: but I would agree, I think the potential is there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the only take that's a's almost as
Speaker 5: bad as Dan's Brady is gonna start declining in twenty fifteen.
Speaker 5: Take is my skepticism of spat Steve Spagnolo's reputation entering
Speaker 5: his job with the Chiefs, because like that's their secret sauce.
Speaker 5: People kind of wonder, like, how does it work when
Speaker 5: you're paying Mahomes what he makes and Kelsey and what
Speaker 5: Chris Jones is gonna make, and you have all these
Speaker 5: big salaries like you have, Steve Spagnolo. Just take these
Speaker 5: fourth seventh round picks throughout the secondary where everyone else
Speaker 5: is spending tons of money, and they're awesome, and that
Speaker 5: that's development and that's coaching. I love what you said
Speaker 5: about Reed. I've always really liked them. Their secondary could
Speaker 5: be really good. And I hear you on the linebackers,
Speaker 5: but I don't know about the ceiling. When I look
Speaker 5: at the defensive line, I guess that's where I would
Speaker 5: push back and let me know what you think about
Speaker 5: the Chris Jones situation too, because even if Chris Jones
Speaker 5: is there and he's one of the best defensive players
Speaker 5: in the league, you you tell me Carloftis had a
Speaker 5: good rookie year, like did he?
Speaker 4: I don't know, did he?
Speaker 5: And then I would also say, like the rest of
Speaker 5: the people around, I'll let you answer, sorry, And then
Speaker 5: to me, it looks average, maybe even with Chris Jones.
Speaker 4: I guess that's where I have a little bit of question.
Speaker 11: And I think Mike Dan he's been out for the
Speaker 11: past couple of days here with a calf issue. I
Speaker 11: think he's a lesser known name and I would have
Speaker 11: liked to have seen the Chiefs retain a Frank Clark.
Speaker 11: I do wonder if once Chris Jones finally gets done
Speaker 11: and we know about the Chiefs cap situation, which is
Speaker 11: really low at this point where there is money freed up,
Speaker 11: they go and bring back Carlos Dunlap, which starts to
Speaker 11: make you feel like, Okay, maybe they do have enough
Speaker 11: pieces there.
Speaker 10: There's one glaring weakness for me.
Speaker 11: It's a little bit of the unknown at the edge position,
Speaker 11: which is one of the most important positions along along
Speaker 11: the defense. And so I would completely agree, and I
Speaker 11: don't mind the pushback. I think there's going to be
Speaker 11: a lot of guys that really have to prove himself
Speaker 11: on the defensive line and under rate of part two,
Speaker 11: and this doesn't get talked about enough. I think, just
Speaker 11: from a national standpoint is the Chiefs made a change
Speaker 11: a year ago by making Brendan Daly the linebackers coach
Speaker 11: and bringing in Joe Cullen, the former defensive coordinator for
Speaker 11: Belief the Jacksonville Jaguars, and he changed the game when
Speaker 11: it came to the front, because now all the linemen
Speaker 11: it seems like they're a lot more positionless. You know,
Speaker 11: you talk about Chris Jones and he's a defensive tackle.
Speaker 11: He'll line up outside a third of the time. Charles
Speaker 11: and Manahu is the guy they brought in to really
Speaker 11: match what he does. And what that allows you to
Speaker 11: do is.
Speaker 10: Take the weakest offensive lineman on the other side and
Speaker 10: put a mismatch.
Speaker 11: And so even if you're not dealing with the most
Speaker 11: above a bridge defensive line in the game, I think
Speaker 11: a real underrated part of the Chiefs is what Culin
Speaker 11: does and how he lines these guys up and how
Speaker 11: he makes sure.
Speaker 10: They're inside outside. All these guys can do it. You
Speaker 10: see it all the time.
Speaker 5: I feel bad bringing this up, and I know you
Speaker 5: had a question mark Wade did just want to not
Speaker 5: because Joe Collin doesn't come up often for the old heads.
Speaker 4: I think he's most.
Speaker 5: Famous for uh driving through a Wendy's naked during his job.
Speaker 4: As I mean, we all need to do that a
Speaker 4: coach with a lot of time.
Speaker 10: Sometimes when you have a good night, you need a
Speaker 10: junior bacon cheeseberg.
Speaker 9: It was.
Speaker 4: It was just one of those stories. I think it
Speaker 4: was two thousand and six or seven. I was at
Speaker 4: road the world.
Speaker 5: It's just one of those stories where it would have
Speaker 5: been totally different in the Twitter era.
Speaker 4: He really had no answer for it.
Speaker 1: Oh, don't knock it till you try it.
Speaker 3: What's your answer?
Speaker 5: I mean, well, he was arrested. He was arrested, and
Speaker 5: he admitted he was blacked out at the time. So
Speaker 5: there it was some darkness to the story.
Speaker 4: He lost it.
Speaker 5: I'm glad to see him back. That's a great note. Though,
Speaker 5: you want to bring up anything from I've been saying,
Speaker 5: you don't get a chance the old kid, you know,
Speaker 5: the kids listening might not know.
Speaker 10: I had an open container at Courtland State back in
Speaker 10: the day.
Speaker 1: It was tough. Got your ass, all right? Mark?
Speaker 3: One more well, I just wanted to ask about a couple,
Speaker 3: you know, young guys on the team. Justin Ross Deeric Prince.
Speaker 3: We talked about Prince on our training camp whispers. He's
Speaker 3: making some rumbling, some noise. What have you seen from
Speaker 3: these guys. They have a chance to make an impact
Speaker 3: and stick around.
Speaker 10: I have both on the fifty three.
Speaker 11: I didn't have Justin Ross on my initial fifty three,
Speaker 11: and I think he's worked his way to that. I
Speaker 11: think there's Tony plays a big role his injury situation.
Speaker 11: My projection currently has a Chief keeping seven receivers, which
Speaker 11: is a little out of the ordinary. I think they
Speaker 11: do some roster you know work where maybe the first
Speaker 11: day Kadarius makes it, then you're able to put him
Speaker 11: on the ir to return a veteran like Blake Bell
Speaker 11: you might have cut the day before you bring back,
Speaker 11: and you work it that way, and so you know
Speaker 11: it's seven receivers, but it's really six.
Speaker 10: But I think justin Ross, he pushes to make the team.
Speaker 10: He's been getting a.
Speaker 11: Lot of raps with Patrick Mahomes, a lot more than
Speaker 11: I anticipated coming into camp. And is this player that's
Speaker 11: hiding in playing side And after the Chiefs have their
Speaker 11: first preseason game, I don't know if they'll be able
Speaker 11: to He's one of the best pass catchers I think
Speaker 11: period in camp, and if you can get the pass
Speaker 11: protection down, I think that's what's going to make it interesting,
Speaker 11: which is, you know, maybe the Chiefs can save Jerck McKinnon,
Speaker 11: which they'd like to do. Maybe they say, okay, let's
Speaker 11: have generic play at this role. Chiefs have a really
Speaker 11: good running back situation because early downs it's Isaiah Pacheco.
Speaker 11: They have Clyde Edwards Ulaire still here backing him up
Speaker 11: in that role. And I have two really good past catchers.
Speaker 11: And who better to teach Deeneric Prince who's trying to
Speaker 11: break into the league as an undrafted free agent out
Speaker 11: of Tulsa than one of the best pass protectors in
Speaker 11: the league in Jeric McKinnon, And so good problem to have.
Speaker 11: I definitely see both of these players making the fifty
Speaker 11: three minut rosters.
Speaker 5: It sounds like you don't want to draft the Clyde
Speaker 5: Edwards layer for like the third street year in fantasy,
Speaker 5: I know, with those supposed to be last, but just
Speaker 5: quickly rank, like what what the receiver? Who you think
Speaker 5: leads this team in receptions? I know, it's just like
Speaker 5: a competition at wide receiver, Like who do you think
Speaker 5: ends up leading the like rank their receptions at the
Speaker 5: end of the year.
Speaker 10: Yeah, obvious, but always always important to our minia.
Speaker 11: This is past catcher two, right, because it's going to
Speaker 11: be beyond Travis Kelcey, and I think it's a sky
Speaker 11: moore for me. I know that Markquinz, Valdez Scantling, and
Speaker 11: Canarius Tony your popular picks. Hard for me to think
Speaker 11: Cadarius Tony plays like more than thirteen games. I wish
Speaker 11: I was wrong because we've.
Speaker 10: Seen the talent.
Speaker 11: Markquinz, Valdiskanling, I think wanted to come into Kansas City
Speaker 11: and be more of a receiver all around than he
Speaker 11: was in Green Bay, and he kind of has just
Speaker 11: been what he was in Green Bay. Whereas I think
Speaker 11: sky Moore, especially in that slot where he's really good,
Speaker 11: is ready to break out. I think he's going to
Speaker 11: be that chain mover guy for Patrick Mahomes now that
Speaker 11: Juju has moved on to New England.
Speaker 2: H Yeah, my last question was going to be over
Speaker 2: under eight hundred yards for Canarius. Sounds like you're banging
Speaker 2: the under on that one.
Speaker 11: Yeah, not because I don't like the kid. He just
Speaker 11: you can't assume that he's going to be on the field.
Speaker 11: He got injured five minutes into practice this camp, and
Speaker 11: it's unbelievable that he just can't find a way to
Speaker 11: stand the field.
Speaker 10: So unfortunately, Yeah, I would say under on an.
Speaker 1: All right, great stuff from Pete Sweeney. You can follow
Speaker 1: him on Twitter.
Speaker 2: At PG Sween and of course over at Arrowhead Pride
Speaker 2: where he does awesome work.
Speaker 1: Thank you mister Sweeney. All right, thank you, thanks, all right,
Speaker 1: good conversation.
Speaker 3: I think we've got a new friend of the show
Speaker 3: in Stellar A chiefs a one guy pillow and and say,
Speaker 3: I nailed it.
Speaker 1: I nailed my Aten appearance today.
Speaker 4: I like I like them seeing the mess hall that.
Speaker 5: I guess it's a lesson that like if you've got
Speaker 5: if you're a good enough coach like Andy Reid, you
Speaker 5: can you can still push him. You can still make
Speaker 5: today's athlete except that, but you also you kind of
Speaker 5: have to have maybe not the bona fides, but you
Speaker 5: have to have the expertise that Red does.
Speaker 3: Like they you say they're shipping players are having individual bedship.
Speaker 5: He said that, yeah, some some of the that makes sense.
Speaker 5: It does, but are you really gonna sleep on one
Speaker 5: of those.
Speaker 3: Old against the whole concept of like you know, little bit,
Speaker 3: you know you're gonna be on a cot like any college.
Speaker 1: But then they can then spin.
Speaker 2: It or their agent can spin it as we can't
Speaker 2: have my guy waking up with a sore backed.
Speaker 1: Right, I'm sleeping in a freshman I.
Speaker 3: Technically understand what's happening there, but it's like there's a whatever,
Speaker 3: here's the thing.
Speaker 5: As someone who lived with a roommate who got scabies
Speaker 5: from picking up a bed from the outside like the dorm,
Speaker 5: it's like that seems like a good idea.
Speaker 1: Well that was on him, picked it up from outside
Speaker 1: the door.
Speaker 2: You know, you they're the era of Bear Bryant, you know,
Speaker 2: Vince Lombardi and even Bill Parcells.
Speaker 1: That's gone.
Speaker 2: You can't ride players the way they used to. It's
Speaker 2: a much more Even the guys that aren't known as
Speaker 2: player friendly are way more friendly than the previous errors.
Speaker 2: But you're right, like for Reid to be able to
Speaker 2: institute this policy and put these guys on an island
Speaker 2: for several weeks together, you have to have the bona
Speaker 2: fides and you have to have the faith and respect
Speaker 2: of the players, and they do. And it did just
Speaker 2: remind me before we get we have another illustrious guest
Speaker 2: coming up here before we sign off. What the Chiefs
Speaker 2: pulled off last year, like the fact that the Chiefs
Speaker 2: with a young defense, as Pete pointed out, that was
Speaker 2: just learning on the fly with Tyreek Hill out of
Speaker 2: the building and gone, and then on top of it all,
Speaker 2: Mahomes suffering that ankle injury in the plass and they
Speaker 2: still ended up with a ring that said edge on
Speaker 2: the side because they won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3: I don't think we talked about the Chiefs enough last
Speaker 3: season or this season, and.
Speaker 2: Everyone's gonna pick this year to win the Super Bowl
Speaker 2: or whatever. Maybe it's time to just say, just embrace it.
Speaker 1: The Chiefs. They're the safe pick. They're the ones right
Speaker 1: now that I mean.
Speaker 5: I had them in the Super Bowl last year from
Speaker 5: from the get go, the Chiefs winning. No, but that
Speaker 5: was the I also had them there to begin with
Speaker 5: and said that'd be the one seed and all that that.
Speaker 5: People were sleeping on it because when as Mahomes is there,
Speaker 5: it happened that we were taking his greatness for granted.
Speaker 4: You're right, like, I didn't even get a chance.
Speaker 1: I'd love to.
Speaker 4: I love that would be a great team to watch
Speaker 4: every day at practice.
Speaker 5: If you're tween, you just have up close and personal
Speaker 5: sure of Pat Mahomes in practice.
Speaker 3: Why did we greg to just do what he just did?
Speaker 1: I don't know. Did you just say you didn't get
Speaker 1: the chance you wish you out of you had plenty
Speaker 1: of bites at the Apple.
Speaker 5: Then now he's he's talking about my prediction of no.
Speaker 5: I mean, you're saying we didn't give the Chiefs enough credit.
Speaker 5: I'm just saying I give him some credit.
Speaker 1: All right. I got a thumbs up? Does that mean
Speaker 1: player theme music?
Speaker 2: Because I think we have somebody specials the Queen.
Speaker 9: The Queen of.
Speaker 2: Wow. This song is great, but Colleen and her awkward
Speaker 2: as ever reacting to her song being played is what
Speaker 2: really sells it for me.
Speaker 12: Hi, Connie, Hi, guys, it's so great to see you
Speaker 12: and hear you.
Speaker 3: We miss you.
Speaker 5: I don't think it was awkward at all. I don't
Speaker 5: know what that says about me. I thought it was
Speaker 5: elegant and funny.
Speaker 13: I like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, prove okay great.
Speaker 2: To be clear, I didn't disapprove with Colleen's behavior on
Speaker 2: cam there, but let's just move on.
Speaker 12: It wasn't exactly a stamp of approval, but that's fine.
Speaker 1: We will move on. I find the awkwardness endearing. Colleen.
Speaker 2: You are all over you are all over America right now, Connie,
Speaker 2: you have been Let's see, here is the rundown Colleen.
Speaker 2: She's been at the Panthers she's been at the Steelers
Speaker 2: right now, she's in Canton at the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: Then she's going to the Niners, then she's going to
Speaker 2: the Seahawks. So you are in a bonafide campus store,
Speaker 2: which shows by the way that the company is into
Speaker 2: the tiny box like to be sending her all the
Speaker 2: doubt about that. Yeah, but let's start with a road
Speaker 2: trip to Charlotte with one of the city's shining suns.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 12: Okay, So Panthers Camp was so much fun.
Speaker 13: Like, the vibes there were great, and I don't know
Speaker 13: if that was partially because it was on our big
Speaker 13: back together weekend, so they had like a ton of
Speaker 13: festivities there. But being in Charlotte and then in Spartanburg
Speaker 13: at Panthers Camp with Steve Smith Senior is an experience
Speaker 13: unlike any other's.
Speaker 12: It was he's such a celebrity there.
Speaker 13: And seeing guys like D'Angelo Hall on that staff again
Speaker 13: it felt like a little reunion too, and kind of
Speaker 13: seeing him.
Speaker 12: As a coach.
Speaker 13: That made my heart just so happy because he wanted
Speaker 13: to do that so bad. And the whole staff in
Speaker 13: Charlotte with the Panthers, they're so cool, like the players
Speaker 13: are happy.
Speaker 12: It just felt so positive overall.
Speaker 13: But I drove back from Spartanburg to Charlotte with Steve
Speaker 13: and all I did was for him. Yeah, And like
Speaker 13: we've had many because of like Thursday night football and
Speaker 13: doing our Saturday show and having to go to New York,
Speaker 13: Like there's been many car rides, but this one, I
Speaker 13: just was in camp mode and I just peppered him
Speaker 13: with questions on wide receivers, DB's OC's different systems, how
Speaker 13: he scouts everything, like what his processes, and it was
Speaker 13: so enlightening and the way he is so thorough about
Speaker 13: everything he does.
Speaker 12: He pulled out these.
Speaker 13: Laminated scouting cards that he uses to evaluate every single
Speaker 13: position and I was like, oh my god, this is incredible.
Speaker 12: Can I take a picture of this?
Speaker 13: And he grabbed him out of my hand and he's like,
Speaker 13: absolutely not, and then just starts laughing because.
Speaker 12: That's just Steve, but his whole.
Speaker 13: I know, I wanted it for my binder, like this
Speaker 13: would have really opened things up for me. So I
Speaker 13: don't unfortunately.
Speaker 4: Getting as much POPA as they were a few years ago.
Speaker 1: Queen of the.
Speaker 13: Binders, I wish, I know, you know, I didn't for
Speaker 13: the first year ever. This is kind of historic. I
Speaker 13: did not bring a binder with me a camp. It's
Speaker 13: all on the computer.
Speaker 12: I finally went full digital.
Speaker 1: You are our last connection to the previous century com
Speaker 1: I'm a little right, you know that.
Speaker 5: Ever since last year, ever since Rhymne draft binders full
Speaker 5: of women, you've been kind of carrying the binder flag,
Speaker 5: and now it's gone.
Speaker 12: Staples and business you are.
Speaker 3: You are like a heavy preparer, which I understand that world,
Speaker 3: and I appreciate that, you know, I think it's I
Speaker 3: also I kind of want to know what you and,
Speaker 3: like Steve Smith, like where you went to eat, and
Speaker 3: like what you did at night.
Speaker 1: So what did you listen to on the radio?
Speaker 3: You could share a little bit about that.
Speaker 13: But we went to Wendy's and the entire place new
Speaker 13: Steve wanted pictures with Steve.
Speaker 12: Steve got completely mobbed in Wendy's.
Speaker 3: What about you, though, Are they reckon they're recognizing you
Speaker 3: as an on air broadcaster. I'm assuming no, and that's fine.
Speaker 13: I just took the pictures for everyone, so everyone was
Speaker 13: just handing me their phones.
Speaker 1: Wendy's, by the way, is not a sponsor of this podcast,
Speaker 1: but I believe that's a second time it's come up. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, you mentioned about an unnamed NFL assistant who
Speaker 3: drove through the Wendy's Drive through naked, and was this.
Speaker 3: I'm assuming that's a different scenario than you guys were
Speaker 3: involved in. I would assume.
Speaker 13: Yes, we had our NFL plus polos on from training
Speaker 13: camp still, which I was supposed to just have this
Speaker 13: like country club living assignment in Spartanburg where I was
Speaker 13: going to do a couple hits and then into like
Speaker 13: the larger show and then just kind of chill and
Speaker 13: like say hi to people, watch practice actually like be
Speaker 13: at camp and see everything. And then a Wizard of
Speaker 13: Oz type weather scenario hit Kansas City where Kimmy Checks
Speaker 13: was hosting the whole three hours or four hours whatever
Speaker 13: it was with Steve Mariucci. So they got pulled and
Speaker 13: then they were like, hey, Colleen, you gotta get on
Speaker 13: and drive this thing for two hours.
Speaker 3: Storry right now?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 11: Cool?
Speaker 12: So it was it was great, good times.
Speaker 4: Can you like you know what?
Speaker 1: Go ahead, kyn You're on fire, and I love it.
Speaker 7: Go.
Speaker 13: I have so much to give, guys, I have so
Speaker 13: much to say, so We talked to Bryce Young, who
Speaker 13: I cannot even explain the good energy that he admits
Speaker 13: and kind of just spreads to everyone around him. It's
Speaker 13: like he's so genuine, he's so grounded, he's so chill,
Speaker 13: so cool, and he's at the same time completely confident
Speaker 13: in and secure and like what he can do and
Speaker 13: what he's capable of.
Speaker 12: The staff absolutely loves him.
Speaker 13: You can tell his teammates love him and that everyone's
Speaker 13: kind of blown away by his preparation. We had talked
Speaker 13: to him right after they did the Rookie Talent Show,
Speaker 13: and all of the players were blown away by like
Speaker 13: him getting up there and singing and like actually like
Speaker 13: really leaning in, which takes a whole lot of confidence
Speaker 13: to get in front of a team as a rookie,
Speaker 13: as the quarterback like the number one overall pick, and
Speaker 13: then own a song like that. But just in general,
Speaker 13: I absolutely loved him, and he had the same phillies
Speaker 13: dunks as I did, as I was so just as
Speaker 13: like a sneaker person that also grabbed my heart.
Speaker 1: All right, any bad energy since you brought up good energy,
Speaker 1: picked up any bad energy waves anywhere?
Speaker 4: Ah?
Speaker 9: Not not there.
Speaker 13: No, it's been really good I made friends with this
Speaker 13: lady at a perfume counter in Pittsburgh. She was telling
Speaker 13: me about her late husband, had me crying. By the
Speaker 13: end of our experience, we were hugging, like I was
Speaker 13: just trying to get a samples.
Speaker 1: You know, it's really difficult to do.
Speaker 2: Colleen and I got a lot of stuff going on
Speaker 2: because we have our Hard Knocks Hard Knocks podcast that's
Speaker 2: premiering this week. And I called up Connie to button
Speaker 2: up some things yesterday and she's just getting a manicure
Speaker 2: and she's in the midst of doing that and she's
Speaker 2: speaking with the woman. This is exactly how I want
Speaker 2: my talents. And I'm trying to get a word in,
Speaker 2: but she's focused on the talents. You're just you're a
Speaker 2: whirlwind wolf.
Speaker 12: I am, I am, and I always have been.
Speaker 13: And I just want you guys to know that I
Speaker 13: cut down my talents so you won't be hearing the
Speaker 13: ASMR at least as much.
Speaker 1: Bad news for the crowd.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, it's been a tough month for them and this
Speaker 3: this doesn't help. I like here and what else happened
Speaker 3: with the I know it's it's a rocky road going down,
Speaker 3: you know, if that's what you're into, that's rocky road.
Speaker 1: You're insinuating there's another event that happened. Knows more, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he does, I know more.
Speaker 4: He's in that world.
Speaker 3: I don't have time right now for that.
Speaker 2: I want to know that when you take that turn
Speaker 2: with Sessler, Well, what do you know what's happening behind
Speaker 2: the scenes?
Speaker 3: All right, don't say it, but that's a whole different segment.
Speaker 1: Go ahead.
Speaker 5: I do love hearing interested like about Bryce Young there
Speaker 5: he does give off this sort of like be a
Speaker 5: tific vibe, you know, this crazy energy and it and
Speaker 5: it kind of makes sense, like if you're five ten
Speaker 5: and you're the best football player in the country, that's
Speaker 5: gonna take a lot of confidence to get there. Like
Speaker 5: that's a sneaky I overcame a lot at every at
Speaker 5: every level essentially to be like a lot of people
Speaker 5: thinking like, yeah, you just don't look like the kind
Speaker 5: of guy who's gonna be the best player on the field.
Speaker 5: And there's a lot of talk of like pro ready,
Speaker 5: it's going to take Anthony Richards in a while. It's
Speaker 5: like Bryce Young was the opposite. There was concerns about
Speaker 5: his size and everything, but there's no concerns about his readiness.
Speaker 5: He could be the rare quarterback, very different than the
Speaker 5: last Panthers number one overall pick. But like Cam Newton,
Speaker 5: he could just start as like a legit top ten,
Speaker 5: top fifteen quarterback.
Speaker 4: I don't think that's out of bounds.
Speaker 13: Yeah, and just kind of like talking to everyone there,
Speaker 13: I think that they really legitimately think that too. You
Speaker 13: hear so much smoke this time of year, and I
Speaker 13: mean I know that. When I come back from these camps,
Speaker 13: I'm like.
Speaker 12: That's it.
Speaker 9: This is the team.
Speaker 12: I'm all in on the Panthers.
Speaker 13: So I'm almost afraid to go in on the Panthers
Speaker 13: because I don't want to jinx them. I don't want
Speaker 13: to sessler them at this point like he did with
Speaker 13: the Titans.
Speaker 12: But I think it's happening. I don't think I have
Speaker 12: a choice.
Speaker 1: At this point.
Speaker 5: I think the rest of the team has plenty of
Speaker 5: concerns pretty much almost across the board other than Bryson,
Speaker 5: So he could even play really well and they might
Speaker 5: not be amazing your story, though, being in the car
Speaker 5: with Steve Young does remind me at the con on
Speaker 5: the Content Summit Steve Smith, and.
Speaker 1: Mean, unless you were also in the car.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't know where Steve Young was unaccounted for.
Speaker 1: It's ESPN's fault.
Speaker 5: At the Content Summit, we a pretty big group of
Speaker 5: us went out to get some Mexican food and I
Speaker 5: and I drove. I had driven Colleen to the restaurant,
Speaker 5: but on the way back I had to have a
Speaker 5: car full of people bringing them back to the hotel
Speaker 5: because the cars were splitting up. And suddenly Steve Smith
Speaker 5: was in the back seat of my like extremely dirty
Speaker 5: with child seats and like like a young girl's manga
Speaker 5: is there and it's everything.
Speaker 4: And it's not a new car.
Speaker 5: I've had it for like eight or nine years, and
Speaker 5: that drive back to the hotel with Steve Smith in
Speaker 5: the back seat actually made me think, like I might
Speaker 5: have to buy a new car.
Speaker 4: This will never happen again.
Speaker 1: But even just the car is a reflection of the
Speaker 1: man on some level, and.
Speaker 5: Right, the embarrassment of that five to ten minutes was
Speaker 5: enough that I've thought about it a lot since I
Speaker 5: saw I saw.
Speaker 13: I'm just so happy that Steve didn't get in the
Speaker 13: car on the way to the restaurant, because it was
Speaker 13: just Greg and I in the car. And when I
Speaker 13: got in the car, his radio was on and it
Speaker 13: was actually a book on tape and here biography of
Speaker 13: a woman who grew up in Dominica in the early
Speaker 13: twentieth century.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how a party or what it was that?
Speaker 4: Jean Reese's biography. Great author, great great bio there. But yes,
Speaker 4: wasn't it? Yeah? So good.
Speaker 1: I got in Greg's car once and it was the
Speaker 1: Bible on tape and I was just like wow, yeah.
Speaker 3: Like deep old Testament. But also you were also in
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh and I I've ticketed them for double digit wins confidently,
Speaker 3: Am I a fool?
Speaker 12: Double digit wins?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 1: I mean es in Pittsburgh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but what was your what's your takeaway from that visit?
Speaker 3: Other than the women in the Julie store okay, the
Speaker 3: finger play.
Speaker 12: I loved her. She was great at the perfume counter.
Speaker 12: She was just so wonderful.
Speaker 13: No, I could see this division actually being pretty good
Speaker 13: if the Steelers can live up to the potential that
Speaker 13: they have. Because Kenny Pickett, now that he's not getting
Speaker 13: thrown in in week four, He's worked with Matt Canada before,
Speaker 13: and they've also given him upgrades on the offensive line.
Speaker 12: With their first round pick, they.
Speaker 13: I think that when you look at they've they've made
Speaker 13: improvements at the wide receiver position too.
Speaker 12: And then that defense with TJ.
Speaker 13: Watt healthy, You think about when he got hurt last year,
Speaker 13: Alex Highsmith came in and had a career season, like
Speaker 13: he was given the opportunity that he didn't have before
Speaker 13: to really shine. And now when you put those two
Speaker 13: guys together, what this defense could actually be. And I
Speaker 13: think with an improved offensive line, the offense could be
Speaker 13: more balanced. And when you think about the hallmarks of
Speaker 13: Mike Tomlin's teams, his successful teas over the years, it's
Speaker 13: been a balanced offense and a really good defense, and
Speaker 13: that's what they have.
Speaker 5: I think this defense could be special. Their front seven
Speaker 5: is great. They're backups to what in high Smith like
Speaker 5: her Big is a rookie Wo's been having a big
Speaker 5: camp for them. I think they're happy with what they're
Speaker 5: getting out of their tackle Brodrick Jones so far. He's
Speaker 5: going to start right away. But they remind me of
Speaker 5: that team that got blown out by the Patriots in
Speaker 5: the AFC Championship Game. I think that was twenty sixteen,
Speaker 5: where it's like they're great upfront, but the secondary is
Speaker 5: ultimately a problem. I think that's a pretty big weakness.
Speaker 5: But other if you just took the secondary away, to me,
Speaker 5: that looks like an eleven or twelve win team, But
Speaker 5: that could be a pretty big weakness. I think there's
Speaker 5: like a lot of hoping there in the secondary.
Speaker 12: I think that secondary too. With Patrick Peterson.
Speaker 13: I know that he's been around for so long, but
Speaker 13: Patrick Peterson, we talked to him and he was so,
Speaker 13: so so excited just to be a Steeler, just to
Speaker 13: work with Mike tom Because he was saying that Tomlin
Speaker 13: wants to put him in different positions and maximize what
Speaker 13: skill set he has now at this point in his career.
Speaker 12: So they were lining him up all over the place.
Speaker 13: They played him at free safety a little bit too,
Speaker 13: So I wouldn't be surprised to see Patrick Peterson take
Speaker 13: on a couple different roles in that secondary.
Speaker 1: Well, look what they did with Joe Hayden after his
Speaker 1: Cleveland years.
Speaker 2: They found a way to maximize what was left of
Speaker 2: his ability Peterson, I would not be surprised.
Speaker 1: Connie anything else.
Speaker 2: Before we say goodbye that you want to share with
Speaker 2: the audience or the heroes here in studio.
Speaker 13: Well, I am here in Canton waiting for Joe Thomas's enshrinement,
Speaker 13: and I'm so excited because I've never been I've never
Speaker 13: been to Canton Hall of Fame. Just to be here
Speaker 13: as like someone celebrating.
Speaker 4: I've always said, that's why you're there, not as a friend. Yeah.
Speaker 13: So John is flying out tomorrow and we're going to
Speaker 13: all of the Joe festivities with his family and all
Speaker 13: of his knucklehead friends that I've been lucky enough to
Speaker 13: meet over the years, and I'm just like so excited
Speaker 13: to see him on stage, get get his jacket, and
Speaker 13: then he's batting clean up order of the speeches, and
Speaker 13: it's going to be really really cool just to hang
Speaker 13: out and watch it all.
Speaker 5: How does it feel to be living like Mark's in
Speaker 5: a way childhood fantasy that you're like literally at the
Speaker 5: greatest Browns player of our lifetime at least I would
Speaker 5: say in the last twenty years, at his enshrinement, just
Speaker 5: hanging out with him for the weekend because you guys
Speaker 5: are friends.
Speaker 13: It doesn't feel real, Like I never thought that I
Speaker 13: would be in a position where I would be friends
Speaker 13: with someone who was being inducted into the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 12: It's just it's a little surreal and really really cool.
Speaker 13: And Mark, I'll send you a bunch of like behind
Speaker 13: the scenes deep cuts please do you can see what's happening.
Speaker 3: And to celebrate, I'm actually wearing Gunzo's T shirt that
Speaker 3: I had to pull from his closet when I helped
Speaker 3: watch your Wonderful Dude two Dogs.
Speaker 4: So underneath the classic jean jacket.
Speaker 3: But I'm very happy that you get to celebrate with
Speaker 3: Joe Thomas season. I mean, we get we got to
Speaker 3: know him a little bit, and he is It's good
Speaker 3: to find out that he's an incredibly great guy, not
Speaker 3: just a great football player, and that I can see
Speaker 3: why the two of you are friends.
Speaker 4: What felt like a concession speed No, I just like.
Speaker 3: To go have fun and just go. I think Canton
Speaker 3: is also.
Speaker 5: The important thing here is that they take care of
Speaker 5: this great state of ours and I will help in
Speaker 5: the transfer any any way I can.
Speaker 1: Colleen, you've said it all. I'll catch up with you
Speaker 1: a little later for some hard.
Speaker 4: Thanks for that pell Raiser dropt Oh, yes, appreciate.
Speaker 3: You like he's never he's never listened to our show.
Speaker 4: That is super clear, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1: I take his word for it, but you know, agree
Speaker 1: to to thank you. Colleen. What a ray of sunshine
Speaker 1: that wolf.
Speaker 3: That was genuine What I said to her, I don't
Speaker 3: know what why you're a gig? What about that that?
Speaker 1: I'm glad that she's it was just kind of like
Speaker 1: a politician like stomach.
Speaker 3: I told her. I told her on text before she
Speaker 3: appeared that I needed like an ambulance to pick me
Speaker 3: up and take me out of here, like this is
Speaker 3: this is where we're at at this point.
Speaker 1: Well then I think we should leave. Then I think
Speaker 1: you should on the show.
Speaker 2: We've been doing this for four hours, all right, anything
Speaker 2: else any other housekeeping?
Speaker 1: Monday? Our next show will be at Cowboys Camp up
Speaker 1: an ox nerd ox nerd ox nerd ox nerd ox
Speaker 1: nerd Maybe working on that name, Yeah, if the Rams
Speaker 1: can work on their T shirt ox nerd ox rebrand.
Speaker 1: Jordan Rodrige got back to me, by the way, covers
Speaker 1: the Rams for The Athletic about the shirt.
Speaker 2: I said I had asked her on the show earlier
Speaker 2: this week if she could do some digging, like what's
Speaker 2: the history behind the shirt?
Speaker 1: She said that she's working on an answer.
Speaker 2: On the shirts, and she said, as of now, quote
Speaker 2: model the way is the Sean McVay shir thinks, but
Speaker 2: this is not her official reporting that the long one.
Speaker 1: What does the long one say? Again, does anybody remember
Speaker 1: do we have that?
Speaker 3: It's like compete and and and amper sand and the
Speaker 3: long one.
Speaker 1: Has to do with all the new kids they brought in,
Speaker 1: so they're trying to you know.
Speaker 4: I think that's one of them.
Speaker 1: It's still a culture with these young kids.
Speaker 5: It was mentally and physically tough players who play smart
Speaker 5: and love to compete, but just compete. Yeah, that's one
Speaker 5: of those ideas like someone brought up in a meeting
Speaker 5: and then it actually happens and it's a total bomb,
Speaker 5: and no one wants to claim it.
Speaker 4: After it it's like it's like, oh yeah, who thought
Speaker 4: of that?
Speaker 5: That little show that totally totally didn't work on our network?
Speaker 5: And what no one wants to claim that.
Speaker 1: And you should know that, Jordan, she has a bit
Speaker 1: of an issue with Greg, a minor issue, oh wow,
Speaker 1: because she said she doesn't believe I listened to every show,
Speaker 1: so I've got an even bigger chip find out the
Speaker 1: info in order to prove him wrong.
Speaker 3: I feel after she was on our episode that I
Speaker 3: felt convinced that she was a completist, Like, where's the
Speaker 3: doubt coming.
Speaker 4: I don't even remember that. Maybe I said that on air.
Speaker 4: I means a lot, it's a lot of I must
Speaker 4: have said it to her on the air, that that's
Speaker 4: a lot right goals, But I appreciate it. Geordan's bill.
Speaker 1: Thank you to Peter Sweeney, Thank you to Connie Fox.
Speaker 1: We will see you in Dallas. Make sure you check
Speaker 1: out the Hard Knocks podcast that will drop on Friday.
Speaker 1: Until then, you know what you gotta though, she the
Speaker 1: call