WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Change Is Gonna Come

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, Get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and this is the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals Booth Podcast. The change is gonna come. Oh yes

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<v Speaker 1>it will. Addition, as we look at Zach Taylor's decision

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<v Speaker 1>to benj Andy Dalton after an O and eight start

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<v Speaker 1>and turned to rookie Ryan Finley as his starting quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>When the Bengals return to action a week from Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>against the Baltimore Ravens. Coming up, you'll hear from four people. First,

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<v Speaker 1>my broadcast partner Dave Lapham, as he analyzes the big switch,

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<v Speaker 1>shares his opinion of Ryan Finlay, and looks back at

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<v Speaker 1>what went wrong in the bengals fourteen point loss in

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<v Speaker 1>London to the La Rams. You'll also hear from the

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<v Speaker 1>two quarterbacks in the eye of the Hurricane, the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four year old Finlay and the thirty two year old Dalton.

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<v Speaker 1>And finally, we'll hear from an expert uniquely qualified to

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<v Speaker 1>weigh in on a decision, a former NFL quarterback who

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<v Speaker 1>is Andy Dalton's teammate for two seasons in Cincinnati, and

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<v Speaker 1>a guy who was once in Ryan Finley's shoes when

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<v Speaker 1>he was suddenly thrust into Tampa based starting lineup. As

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<v Speaker 1>a rookie I am speaking of Bruce Gradkowski. All of

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<v Speaker 1>that is straight ahead. But first, here's a quick reminder

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<v Speaker 1>that you can have the latest edition of this podcast

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<v Speaker 1>delivered write to your phone, tablet, or computer by subscribing

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<v Speaker 1>on iTunes, Stitcher, Google Play, Spotify, or Podbean. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>greatest thing since organizing one's Halloween candy. It's Halloween morning.

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<v Speaker 1>My son is thirteen, and for the first time in

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<v Speaker 1>his life, it does not sound like he is going

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<v Speaker 1>to go trick or treating. That's sad for a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of reasons. Number one, he's growing up way too fast,

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<v Speaker 1>and number two, I will miss seeing the organized piles

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<v Speaker 1>of candy. That was my favorite part of Halloween as

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<v Speaker 1>a kid, getting home, dumping the bag of candy onto

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<v Speaker 1>the floor, and then organizing it in small piles, hoping

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<v Speaker 1>for stacks of Reese's peanut buttercups and kit kats, and

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<v Speaker 1>quickly discarding all mounds and almond joys due to the

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<v Speaker 1>dreaded presence of coconut. One of the true joys of childhood,

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<v Speaker 1>parenthood and profitable dentistry the organized piles of Halloween candy.

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<v Speaker 1>Now let's get to football. I was hired by the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals to be their radio announcer on May fourth, twenty eleven,

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<v Speaker 1>less than a week after they selected Andy Dalton with

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<v Speaker 1>a thirty fifth pick in the NFL Draft. I get

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<v Speaker 1>the credit or blame, depending on how you feel about it,

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<v Speaker 1>for coining the nickname the red Rifle. When he's been healthy,

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<v Speaker 1>Andy has been the starting quarterback for every game that

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<v Speaker 1>I've called. I have the utmost respect for him as

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<v Speaker 1>a player and as a person, in my opinion, and

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<v Speaker 1>he never received enough credit for inheriting a team that

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<v Speaker 1>went four and twelve the year before he got there

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<v Speaker 1>and taking it to the playoffs in each of his

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<v Speaker 1>first five seasons. Additionally, he and his wife JJ have

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<v Speaker 1>been incredibly giving to families facing serious medical challenges. He

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<v Speaker 1>is one of the classiest athletes I have ever had

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<v Speaker 1>the pleasure of covering, so I'll admit it. I was

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<v Speaker 1>shocked when I saw the news on Tuesday. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it might happen at some point, but didn't see it

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<v Speaker 1>happening now. When I sat down for this week's conversation

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<v Speaker 1>with my broadcast partner Dave Lapham, I asked if he

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<v Speaker 1>was shocked by the news as well. I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>I was shocked, but I was definitely surprised. But we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about it before. I thought if they were going

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<v Speaker 1>to make that move, the bye week would make sense

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<v Speaker 1>to do it because you have the extra week of

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Filly working with the number one. He's had no

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<v Speaker 1>reps with AJ Green, He's back, he's had no reps

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<v Speaker 1>with Basically, he said, rests with Damian Willis, Stanley Morgan,

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<v Speaker 1>guys like that reps, not with Tyler Boyd and guys

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<v Speaker 1>that are gonna you know, had been playing uh earlier

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<v Speaker 1>in the season with Andy Dalton and him getting all

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<v Speaker 1>those number one reps. So I think that was a big,

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<v Speaker 1>big factor in the in the decision making process. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's it's tough for Andy Dalton, there's no

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<v Speaker 1>question about I've said it a few times. I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to say it again. You know, I think that organizationally,

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<v Speaker 1>as a group, they let Andy Dalton down more than

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<v Speaker 1>he'd let the organization down. Lap Ryan was a fourth

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<v Speaker 1>round draft pick. He had a passer rating of ninety

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<v Speaker 1>nine point three in the preseason. What do you think

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<v Speaker 1>of him based on what he saw during training camp

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<v Speaker 1>and in those preseason games In the beginning of training camp,

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<v Speaker 1>I would scratch my head a little bit. Didn't look

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<v Speaker 1>didn't look like well man. Fourth round pick so high

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<v Speaker 1>on him. He wasn't playing real well, but took coaching

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<v Speaker 1>point to change his footwork, and once he did that,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he took off and started playing really well.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing I liked best about him as a warmer

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<v Speaker 1>offensive lineman is his ability to manipulate the pocket. He'll

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<v Speaker 1>slap sidestep, he'll step up in the pocket, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>climate at just the right time. It's almost like he

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<v Speaker 1>has eyes in the back of his head, and those

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<v Speaker 1>are instincts that really can't coach. He has a tremendous

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<v Speaker 1>feel for that kind of thing, and I think that

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the big problems I think that they

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<v Speaker 1>had with Andy, is that not just mobility, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>getting out of pocket, extending, creating, but within the pocket,

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<v Speaker 1>even the mobility wasn't there, and you know he was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he's just basically a little bit shell shocked,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I think I think his clock had been

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<v Speaker 1>readjusted and wasn't showing any signs of changing that. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's one of the big reasons I think they made

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<v Speaker 1>the move to Ryan Finley to see if he can

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<v Speaker 1>negotiate and manipulate the pocket a little bit better lap.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals played Baltimore a couple of weeks ago and

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<v Speaker 1>did not score an offensive touchdown until there was a

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<v Speaker 1>minute in twenty eight seconds to go. How difficult is

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<v Speaker 1>it going to be for a rookie quarterback to face

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<v Speaker 1>that defense in his first NFL start? Coach Martindale, the

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<v Speaker 1>defensive coordinator is a blitz master. Finley is going to

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<v Speaker 1>see blitzes that he never knew existed. He's going to

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<v Speaker 1>see every blitz known to mankind. And a little over

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<v Speaker 1>a year ago, the home opener on Thursday Night Football,

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<v Speaker 1>Andy Dalton torched it, torched it. He and aj Green

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<v Speaker 1>combined for three touchdown receptions in a quarter and a

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<v Speaker 1>half or less than a quarter and a half, and

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<v Speaker 1>Martindale wink blinked. You know, he didn't blitz anymore for

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<v Speaker 1>a myriad of plays, A good number of plays hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>seen it before out of Baltimore. So I hope Andy

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<v Speaker 1>can impart some of that knowledge, you know, Ryan Finley

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of a pre snap reads a feel for it.

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<v Speaker 1>But that I think that's Andy's biggest strength is really

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<v Speaker 1>predicting blitzes based on what he sees pre snap. He's

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<v Speaker 1>very hard to fool. He's seen everything Ryan Finley has not.

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<v Speaker 1>That experienced level is going to be something that you

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<v Speaker 1>can only get by taking snaps out on the football field.

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<v Speaker 1>Andy Dalton's not going to be able to drill a

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<v Speaker 1>hole and pour Andy Dalton knowledge in the in Finley's head,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's going to be, you know, helping him as

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<v Speaker 1>much as he possibly can on that sideline. We'll see

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<v Speaker 1>how it rolls. I went back and looked at every

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<v Speaker 1>time the la Rams faced third and eight or longer

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<v Speaker 1>in last week's game in London. They converted on four

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<v Speaker 1>of six opportunities when it was third and eight or longer,

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<v Speaker 1>with gains of twenty one, twenty three, twenty and forty.

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<v Speaker 1>That's unbelievable to me. Was it a lack of pass rush?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that a bad scheme? How does that happen? I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's everything. You know, the one that galls me

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<v Speaker 1>the most. Third and ten from your own two yard line,

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<v Speaker 1>you give up a twenty yard run. You've got to

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<v Speaker 1>be kidding me, absolutely got to be kidding me. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think all of it you know, I think everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>looking at themselves during this bye week and looking at

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<v Speaker 1>the mirror and saying, man, what can we do. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean a lot of times in the coverages there was

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<v Speaker 1>terrible discipline in the back end of his own coverages.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys were getting as were getting their eyes were being

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<v Speaker 1>downhill looking at crossers and shallower routes while things behind

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<v Speaker 1>him were developing. And you just can't have those kind

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<v Speaker 1>of things. Because Dan, as we saw, it wasn't just

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<v Speaker 1>they found a little opening in his own. They found

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<v Speaker 1>a cavern, they found the Grand Canyon. I mean sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>when you look, there'd be nobody within ten yards of

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<v Speaker 1>any direction of them, and it's like, how the hell

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<v Speaker 1>can that be? You know, Cooper Cup lit him up,

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<v Speaker 1>but a tea cup of coffee cup would have done

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing. Didn't have to be Cooper Cup. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there there was. It was so unbelievably wide open down

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<v Speaker 1>the football field. Even one time when we were on

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<v Speaker 1>a room well called the double team on Cup, Sean

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<v Speaker 1>Williams goes airborne too early. You know, he makes a

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<v Speaker 1>contested catch. It was like it was it was amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>But the one that the one that really really threw

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<v Speaker 1>me was from your own two yard line. As a

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<v Speaker 1>former lineman offensive lineman, I'm thinking, man, if you bust

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<v Speaker 1>a twenty yard run on third and ten from your

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<v Speaker 1>own two yard line, you gotta feel pretty damn good

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<v Speaker 1>about how the game's gonna unfold. According to our buddy

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<v Speaker 1>Jay Morrison from The Athletic, the Bengals used two tight

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<v Speaker 1>ends in a season high eighteen snaps against the Rams

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<v Speaker 1>that matched their total in the previous three games combined.

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<v Speaker 1>How much did multiple tight ends help the running game?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it did help it. Guys talked to in

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<v Speaker 1>the post game, you know, locker room show, we're saying

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<v Speaker 1>that they were having a hard time matching up. Initially

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<v Speaker 1>they caught him in some nickel looks, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>with the with the big bodies, Michael Jordan was the

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<v Speaker 1>extra lineman quote tight end you know on some of

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<v Speaker 1>those occasions, and they they creased them a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Rams, the Rams didn't expect it, and they

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<v Speaker 1>caught them in some favorable matches matchups to run the

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<v Speaker 1>football and even up the numbers game in the box

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<v Speaker 1>as such. Um. But then as the game war on,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, now you're you're fighting from behind again, and

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<v Speaker 1>if they could play with the lead, you know, have

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<v Speaker 1>have a lead for doesn't have to be a huge lead,

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<v Speaker 1>just a lead, things would be so different, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>from them. They could continue to you know, run the

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<v Speaker 1>football with multiple tight end looks and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>these things. But man, you get down, you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>score plus in the second half of football games in

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<v Speaker 1>the National Football League, that becomes very difficult, particularly when

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<v Speaker 1>your defense was hemorrhaging like they were, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>like we talked about on third and longs and things

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<v Speaker 1>that nature. So you know, as a play caller on

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<v Speaker 1>both sides of the football, when you're having struggles like that,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like the defense of coordinators thinking what do I

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<v Speaker 1>call not only the best call for my defense, but

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure that I helped the offense as much

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<v Speaker 1>as I can, And the offensive coordin is thinking the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing for the defense, you know, trying to play

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<v Speaker 1>a complimentary football. When you get caught in that cross

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<v Speaker 1>are it's brutal. It's hard enough to make calls just

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<v Speaker 1>for your side of the football, but when you have

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<v Speaker 1>to try to factor in you know, both sides of

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<v Speaker 1>the football that having their issues in certain areas. Man

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<v Speaker 1>that's a tough time. It's a tough scenario to find

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<v Speaker 1>the right play call. It really is. The Bengals did

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<v Speaker 1>not make any trades before the Tuesday deadline. I do

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<v Speaker 1>think there's a miskin reception that that means they blew

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<v Speaker 1>their chance to acquire extra draft picks. They can still

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<v Speaker 1>do that in the offseason, and honestly, I think they will.

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<v Speaker 1>Did they lose a chance to get maximum value? I

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<v Speaker 1>honestly don't know the answer to that question. But do

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<v Speaker 1>you think the current players appreciate the fact that there

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't a fire sale. I do think they do appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>that fact. But if I'm a current player, when Zach

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor made the move that he made with Andy Dalton,

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<v Speaker 1>that stignals to me it can happen to any of us.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the most significant move to make, changing out your

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<v Speaker 1>starting quarterback, And past experiences tell me when they change

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<v Speaker 1>out the starting quarterback, there's a couple of other shoes

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<v Speaker 1>going to fall. They may they may have already decided

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<v Speaker 1>to make other changes that haven't been announced yet in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of lineups and personnel, in amount of playing time.

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<v Speaker 1>Because man, if you if you do that at the

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback position. Nothing sacred. There's nothing that you you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's nothing, nothing that says that can't happen to me.

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<v Speaker 1>So the message has been sent buckle it up, Buttercup,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know you could be next. And there's nothing

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<v Speaker 1>wrong with that part of it. So there weren't trade.

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<v Speaker 1>So guys you know, are thinking, well, you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>nobody that's going to be taking my job by trade.

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<v Speaker 1>But when they made the move they made to me,

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<v Speaker 1>you better go out and re earn your job during

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<v Speaker 1>the bye week because every position's wide open if they

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<v Speaker 1>made that move with the quarterback position. We get to

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<v Speaker 1>spend some time every week with Zach Taylor working on

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<v Speaker 1>his TV show and you tape a weekly segment for

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<v Speaker 1>the radio pregame show with him. How do you think

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<v Speaker 1>he's holding up? I think the Cordy Glenn thing is

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<v Speaker 1>wearing him out, you know. I think that's the that's

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<v Speaker 1>the one variable that is I mean, it's football related,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's not you know, x's and O is related,

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<v Speaker 1>and that sort of thing. Am I making the right calls,

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<v Speaker 1>my scheme property, all those kind of things that that's

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<v Speaker 1>just a different dynamic and that that kind of thing

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<v Speaker 1>and in handling the mine field of the media aspect

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<v Speaker 1>of it, and um, the collective bargain agreement with the

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<v Speaker 1>players associate aspect of it. It's is going to wear

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<v Speaker 1>you out. And I think that he handled he's handled

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<v Speaker 1>it well, you know, but there's no way in my

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<v Speaker 1>mind it hasn't had an impact on him. Um, but

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<v Speaker 1>he's handled the injury part of it. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Jonah Williams aj Green the eleventh pick of the draft,

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth pick of the draft. When he came out

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<v Speaker 1>best player on your team, you lose your left tackling

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<v Speaker 1>before training camp starts, your best player of forty five

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<v Speaker 1>minutes into training camp play. If you talked about ad nauseam,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's that's that's brutal stuff. And he real

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<v Speaker 1>handles it like you know, it's a blip on the screen.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, my screen would be shattered. Man, I would

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<v Speaker 1>have been like suicidal, you know. I mean, it's he's

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<v Speaker 1>handled it very well. I think he's handled uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>his media obligations with the fans, you know, admirably. What

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<v Speaker 1>he's got to make sure of is you know, he's

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<v Speaker 1>I think he still has the locker room. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think he's lost the locker room. But at some point

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<v Speaker 1>there has to be validation to what you're doing. And

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<v Speaker 1>when I when I watch the offense now as opposed

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<v Speaker 1>to what I saw in OTAs and training camp in Seattle,

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<v Speaker 1>the Seattle game, like what happened to it? Where is it?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? And I know there's obviously player issues with injury,

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<v Speaker 1>but man, when I when I first watched that offense

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<v Speaker 1>and AJ Green was involved, you know, in the OTAs

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<v Speaker 1>in mini camp, I'm like, God, this is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be unbelievable. I was watching Rams PARTD, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>then against Seattle, same thing. Man, there was mister actually

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<v Speaker 1>motion and quick slant short time like this is this

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna be fun? You know, maybe he starts to

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<v Speaker 1>run the ball. Now he can't run the ball, and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of stuff's gone away. The offense right now

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<v Speaker 1>is a shell of itself. And maybe with the bye

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<v Speaker 1>week and getting some bodies back, you know, like Aj

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<v Speaker 1>and then hopefully you know, not too far behind is

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<v Speaker 1>John Ross and you know, the whole thing, the whole

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<v Speaker 1>dynamic can change, you know, back to what they were

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. But you know, I'm gonna get some

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<v Speaker 1>lineman back healthy as well. You know Andre Smith, John

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<v Speaker 1>Miller Accord. He decides he wants to play. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>if he goes out there, that big old son of

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<v Speaker 1>a gun is a moving condo. He can play. He

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<v Speaker 1>just decide, has to decide he wants to play and

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<v Speaker 1>contribute to me. I don't know. I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>you look at your teammates when they've been struggling as

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<v Speaker 1>badly as they've been struggling at the left tackle position,

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<v Speaker 1>and not once have you had said I'm stepping up,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do something about it. Not once, not even close.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how you look at teammates in the eye.

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<v Speaker 1>Now time to hear from the Bengals new starting quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Finley is six to four and a slender two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and seven pounds, so he is two inches taller

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<v Speaker 1>and about fifteen pounds lighter than Andy Dalton. He was

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five and fourteen as a starter at NC State,

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<v Speaker 1>where he completed nearly sixty five percent of his passes,

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<v Speaker 1>second best in school history to Philip Rivers. Now he

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<v Speaker 1>gets an earlier than expected shot to show what he

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<v Speaker 1>can do in the NFL. Ryan sat down with Lapping

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<v Speaker 1>Me to discuss his opportunity. Ryan, I imagine when you

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<v Speaker 1>got the news it had to be kind of a shock. Yeah. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I wasn't expecting it yesterday morning. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>excited for the opportunity. I guess, um the timing of it,

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<v Speaker 1>with the bye week, you're having two full weeks to

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<v Speaker 1>work with the Number ones, you know, get a rhythm

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<v Speaker 1>and timing and reps with the Number ones. That seemed

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<v Speaker 1>to make a lot of sense in your mind. Does

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<v Speaker 1>that give you a feeling of you know, cheez, At

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<v Speaker 1>least I got a little more time to get ready

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<v Speaker 1>for this. Yeah, that's huge for me, I think, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think you nailed it. That's that's kind of how

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<v Speaker 1>I view it in my mind, is uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just the more days to kind of get my mind

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<v Speaker 1>or I get reps with with those guys that I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't thrown too much. Um, you know, get with get

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<v Speaker 1>with Trey and get snaps and so I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>having a bye week is as big so I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I was thankful that it happened. At this time we're

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<v Speaker 1>visiting with Ryan Finlay. You performed well in your preseason opportunities.

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<v Speaker 1>You had a passer rating of ninety nine point three.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that give you confidence going into your first regular

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<v Speaker 1>season start? Yeah, it does, I think, Um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just something I can look back on and have

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<v Speaker 1>confidence in. And um, you know, I just did my

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<v Speaker 1>best to execute football plays. And that's kind of that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of the mindset I'm taking right now. So, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, kind of simplify it and make it, don't

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<v Speaker 1>make it as much as it is, and just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of execute football plays and uh, cover it on third

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<v Speaker 1>downs and you get into the red zone score points,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that's kind of where it all starts.

0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:48.520
<v Speaker 1>Baltimore is known to have every blitz known demand in

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<v Speaker 1>their arsenal, and Andy Dalton has done a pretty good

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<v Speaker 1>job of sorting it out, you know, seeing things almost

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<v Speaker 1>like before they happen, pre snap, post snap, and making

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<v Speaker 1>real good decisions that way. Obviously, you guys are good friends,

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<v Speaker 1>You're both highly intelligent. You're gonna lean on his experiences

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<v Speaker 1>and his intelligence to help you prepare for this one. Yes, yes, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's obviously, and he's very good with that, um

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<v Speaker 1>you know, being in the league for as long as

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<v Speaker 1>he's been in and Alex is very good with that. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, I'm gonna do my best. Uh if

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<v Speaker 1>I need to, I'll look over to the silne and

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<v Speaker 1>he can signal to me what we need to do

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that. But uh, you know, that's just something. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to learn it until I just get

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<v Speaker 1>thrown out there and I just, um, you know, get

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<v Speaker 1>hit with live bullets and then i'll uh you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Alex will coach off it and I'll be able to

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be able to learn, you know. So I've confidenced

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<v Speaker 1>my ability to pick it up. But it's one of

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<v Speaker 1>those things where it's, uh, it's different watching it on

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<v Speaker 1>film and then get out there and actually having to

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<v Speaker 1>having to do it. So, UM, that's definitely something that

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be thinking about a lot over the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>over the course of the week and preparing for Ryan.

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<v Speaker 1>You strike me as someone who kind of follows the

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<v Speaker 1>rookie playbook where you come in, you keep your mouth shut,

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<v Speaker 1>you work hard, pay attention. Uh, you try to just

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<v Speaker 1>let your actions do the talking as a quarterback? Can

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<v Speaker 1>you do that now when you step into the starting role? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see why I'm not. Uh, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think I've had Um, I've had practice with this type

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<v Speaker 1>of situation in college, and I think I'm thankful for

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<v Speaker 1>some of the experiences that I've had in college, so

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<v Speaker 1>I can can lean back on that. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said earlier, it's about just executing plays. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's that's kind of how I see it. That's

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<v Speaker 1>how I kind of visualize myself being out there, is

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<v Speaker 1>just um doing what the coaches asked. And at the ball,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's a curl flat and that these things

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<v Speaker 1>underneath the curling to the flat. So it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>just simplify it for me, and that's how I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of get into a rhythm of a game. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I hope to do. I guess as a follow

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<v Speaker 1>up to that, how do you classify yourself as a leader.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you a guy that leads by example? You guy

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<v Speaker 1>that's a you know, an emotional rohra guy. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>guy that's like, I'm gonna let my play speak for itself.

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<v Speaker 1>What type of leader or can we expect outa Ryan Finley? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna define my leadership.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, Uh. I think leadership is just when it's needed,

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<v Speaker 1>it's given. Um and I think, Uh, it's it's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of times it's needed in a lot of different

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<v Speaker 1>ways according to the circumstance in the situation. UM. But

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<v Speaker 1>right now, I think, uh, like I said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>my my goal is to just play quarterback at a

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<v Speaker 1>at a high level, and I think it starts with that.

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<v Speaker 1>UM and then um, you know everything else comes after that.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh, with that being said, I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>bringing energy uh and some juice and some competitive spirit

0:20:38.400 --> 0:20:41.280
<v Speaker 1>is never a bad thing ever. So UM, that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of what I plan on doing. Just bring an energy

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<v Speaker 1>UM and juice to practice and making it competitive um

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<v Speaker 1>and then um and then after that just executing. We're

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<v Speaker 1>visiting with Ryan Finley. There are rookie quarterbacks having a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of success right now, from the number one overall

0:20:54.720 --> 0:20:58.119
<v Speaker 1>pick Kyler Murray right down to Gardner Minshew. Why do

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<v Speaker 1>you think rookies are able to stay in and play

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<v Speaker 1>well right away? I don't know. I think I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>They you know, they got their mind right, and um,

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<v Speaker 1>they have confidence in themselves and you know, the stage

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't too big for them, and they just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>came in and had confidence in their innatabilities and kind

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<v Speaker 1>of just um, you know, I don't know. One thing

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<v Speaker 1>is a former linement that impressed me about you right

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<v Speaker 1>away is the eyes in the back of the head

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<v Speaker 1>kind of thing where you'll slidestep, you'll climb the pocket.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you manipulate the pocket exceptionally well. Is that

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<v Speaker 1>something that you've always had? Is that just been an

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<v Speaker 1>instinct thing from Jump Street even in high schools? Was

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<v Speaker 1>something that developed over time? How did that? How that?

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<v Speaker 1>How does that occurred? I don't, I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's just uh, you know, it's just a part

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<v Speaker 1>of my game that I have confidence in, uh and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of just like you said, just kind of manipulating

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<v Speaker 1>the pocket. Um, And that's kind of my game, you know.

0:21:55.520 --> 0:21:58.439
<v Speaker 1>So my game is to kind of just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they have good pocket awareness and no when to take

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<v Speaker 1>off and no when to be smart, and just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of go through my progression and uh, you know, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of whatever the defense gives me, that's what I'm gonna take. So, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just kind of what I'm good at. I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I think I've I've obviously worked on

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<v Speaker 1>it a lot. Um, there's a lot of things you

0:22:13.080 --> 0:22:15.760
<v Speaker 1>can do, but um, just you know, a lot of preparation,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of work over time. What are the next

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<v Speaker 1>ten days going to be like for you? Are you

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<v Speaker 1>going to be in front of that iPad studying non

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<v Speaker 1>stop or will you just kind of follow a normal

0:22:28.200 --> 0:22:30.840
<v Speaker 1>routine and trust what's worked for you before. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I've played in a lot of football games. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's that's kind of the way I see it

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<v Speaker 1>in my mind. And you know, I'll just I'll get

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<v Speaker 1>into I'm sure I'll fall into it, maybe a slightly

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<v Speaker 1>different routine than I've had, um the last you know,

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<v Speaker 1>eight nine weeks, but um, not too different. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the same things will apply, and um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, probably watch the maybe a little bit more film,

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<v Speaker 1>but not not much more. I mean I think, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I think once you kind of get a there's a

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<v Speaker 1>point where you know, you've watched plenty uh and then

0:22:59.760 --> 0:23:01.199
<v Speaker 1>at the point you just gotta go out and you

0:23:01.240 --> 0:23:03.400
<v Speaker 1>got to execute and you just gotta let your kind

0:23:03.400 --> 0:23:05.679
<v Speaker 1>of let your body take over and just have the

0:23:05.760 --> 0:23:08.760
<v Speaker 1>right mindset going in. So I know, you and Andy,

0:23:08.800 --> 0:23:11.800
<v Speaker 1>you're great friends, and you're similar type guys, both extremely

0:23:11.800 --> 0:23:14.480
<v Speaker 1>intelligent guys that the IQ in that quarterback room. This

0:23:14.640 --> 0:23:17.280
<v Speaker 1>is pretty staggering, There's no question about it. Do you

0:23:17.320 --> 0:23:21.160
<v Speaker 1>plan on um over this next ten days when he's

0:23:21.200 --> 0:23:24.240
<v Speaker 1>comfortable with it? Leaning on him? You guys watch tape together.

0:23:24.280 --> 0:23:26.480
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not saying bore a hole in your head

0:23:26.480 --> 0:23:28.680
<v Speaker 1>and have andy poorn knowledge into it or whatever, but

0:23:28.840 --> 0:23:31.159
<v Speaker 1>do you do You anticipate and you'll be there for you.

0:23:31.200 --> 0:23:33.600
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like a tutor as such, to get

0:23:33.640 --> 0:23:37.240
<v Speaker 1>you up to speed as quickly as possible. Um. Yeah,

0:23:37.280 --> 0:23:39.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I trust me any any help, and he's

0:23:39.880 --> 0:23:42.840
<v Speaker 1>gonna give me. I'm gonna take And you know he's

0:23:42.920 --> 0:23:44.719
<v Speaker 1>he's played this game at a high level for a

0:23:44.720 --> 0:23:47.880
<v Speaker 1>long time. Um, And so I don't take that lightly

0:23:47.920 --> 0:23:51.119
<v Speaker 1>at all. So, UM, you know, he's he's He's mentioned

0:23:51.119 --> 0:23:53.840
<v Speaker 1>to me that he doesn't want our relationship to change

0:23:53.880 --> 0:23:56.520
<v Speaker 1>and that meant a lot to me. And you know,

0:23:56.560 --> 0:23:59.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm hopeful that uh, you know he will. I guess

0:23:59.440 --> 0:24:02.800
<v Speaker 1>tutor me u is an interesting word, but I you know,

0:24:02.840 --> 0:24:05.480
<v Speaker 1>I hope he does, and I hope he'll he'll help me,

0:24:05.480 --> 0:24:08.119
<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure you will. You mentioned the number of

0:24:08.359 --> 0:24:10.719
<v Speaker 1>games you've played in college, and you know you're you're

0:24:10.760 --> 0:24:13.760
<v Speaker 1>an experienced rookie as such. I mean, you've got a

0:24:13.760 --> 0:24:16.080
<v Speaker 1>lot of snaps. Some of these record quarterbacks that are

0:24:16.119 --> 0:24:19.440
<v Speaker 1>succeeding don't have the you know, the volume of players

0:24:19.480 --> 0:24:22.680
<v Speaker 1>that you that you've had, and maybe even in different systems,

0:24:22.720 --> 0:24:25.280
<v Speaker 1>being in two different places and adapting you, you know,

0:24:25.320 --> 0:24:29.520
<v Speaker 1>to that the college game is filtering down in the NFL.

0:24:29.600 --> 0:24:31.760
<v Speaker 1>It's it's it's coming from the college to the NFL,

0:24:31.840 --> 0:24:33.840
<v Speaker 1>not the NFL to college. And I think that's what's

0:24:34.160 --> 0:24:37.520
<v Speaker 1>what's helping. If you noticed that, is that something that uh,

0:24:37.680 --> 0:24:40.600
<v Speaker 1>with Zach's offense, there's some similarities to what you've done

0:24:40.600 --> 0:24:45.440
<v Speaker 1>in college, and it's an easier transition. Um. Yeah, yeah,

0:24:45.480 --> 0:24:50.600
<v Speaker 1>I guess just regarding um, my own college situation, UM,

0:24:50.680 --> 0:24:53.800
<v Speaker 1>I think there's a lot of similarities with just um,

0:24:53.880 --> 0:24:56.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, being an under center. That's thankful, really thankful

0:24:56.480 --> 0:24:58.520
<v Speaker 1>to just get under center work in college. That was

0:24:58.560 --> 0:25:01.199
<v Speaker 1>that was huge for me U sending five motions and

0:25:01.240 --> 0:25:03.879
<v Speaker 1>handing off jet sweeps and that kind of stuff. So

0:25:04.080 --> 0:25:07.280
<v Speaker 1>that helped me a lot. For Zach's offense, and I

0:25:07.320 --> 0:25:09.560
<v Speaker 1>think we'll just kind of continue to build on it.

0:25:09.600 --> 0:25:12.320
<v Speaker 1>So there's definitely a lot of similarities with what I did.

0:25:12.359 --> 0:25:15.359
<v Speaker 1>In college and what we're doing now now time to

0:25:15.440 --> 0:25:18.600
<v Speaker 1>hear from Andy Dalton. His tenure with the Bengals, at

0:25:18.680 --> 0:25:22.160
<v Speaker 1>least so far, peaked in twenty fifteen, when he led

0:25:22.200 --> 0:25:24.800
<v Speaker 1>the team to an eight no start and was in

0:25:24.840 --> 0:25:29.480
<v Speaker 1>the MVP conversation before breaking his thumb when Cincinnati was

0:25:29.560 --> 0:25:32.160
<v Speaker 1>ten and two and the number one seed in the

0:25:32.200 --> 0:25:36.520
<v Speaker 1>AFC playoff race. That year, Andy led the conference in

0:25:36.560 --> 0:25:39.920
<v Speaker 1>passer rating at one oh six point three, and after

0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:44.119
<v Speaker 1>the season, his peers chose him as the thirty fifth

0:25:44.160 --> 0:25:47.640
<v Speaker 1>best player in the league in the NFL Network's annual

0:25:47.680 --> 0:25:52.960
<v Speaker 1>Top one hundredth survey. Unfortunately, things have spiraled downhills since

0:25:53.440 --> 0:25:56.600
<v Speaker 1>and for now he's a backup quarterback for the first

0:25:56.600 --> 0:26:00.160
<v Speaker 1>time since high school. Lap and I were a I'm

0:26:00.200 --> 0:26:02.480
<v Speaker 1>a group of reporters who spoke to Dalton in front

0:26:02.480 --> 0:26:05.560
<v Speaker 1>of his locker on Wednesday. What have the last twenty

0:26:05.560 --> 0:26:10.720
<v Speaker 1>four hours been? Like? Andy? Uh? Weird? Different? Uh, not

0:26:10.720 --> 0:26:15.920
<v Speaker 1>what I was expecting. You know, it's um now how

0:26:15.920 --> 0:26:20.000
<v Speaker 1>you thought the birthday was gonna go? Um, But you

0:26:20.080 --> 0:26:24.400
<v Speaker 1>know it's it's an unfortunate situation. You know, I don't

0:26:24.400 --> 0:26:28.560
<v Speaker 1>agree with it, but um, I mean Jack's making the

0:26:28.560 --> 0:26:33.880
<v Speaker 1>decisions and so, UM, I'm gonna do my part. I'm here, Um,

0:26:34.000 --> 0:26:40.760
<v Speaker 1>and so I'm gonna help right now the best I can. Uh.

0:26:40.760 --> 0:26:42.440
<v Speaker 1>He said he has to think about the future and

0:26:42.560 --> 0:26:45.680
<v Speaker 1>the draft and uh, let's see what they have and

0:26:45.800 --> 0:26:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Ryan and so, UM, that's what it came down to. You.

0:26:50.840 --> 0:26:52.679
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's it's been voiced to me. I was

0:26:53.000 --> 0:26:56.720
<v Speaker 1>in no reason. You know, I wasn't the reason for

0:26:57.080 --> 0:26:58.919
<v Speaker 1>the way the season has gone. It felt like I

0:26:58.960 --> 0:27:03.040
<v Speaker 1>played well, and Um, you know I have done some

0:27:03.200 --> 0:27:06.840
<v Speaker 1>things to keep this team together in this stretch. But

0:27:07.920 --> 0:27:10.680
<v Speaker 1>he just feels like he's gotta figure out what they have.

0:27:10.760 --> 0:27:13.160
<v Speaker 1>And Ryan, so many players in this locker room look

0:27:13.200 --> 0:27:15.520
<v Speaker 1>to you as such a big leader here. Um, what

0:27:15.560 --> 0:27:18.160
<v Speaker 1>did you say to your teammates when they found out

0:27:18.160 --> 0:27:23.480
<v Speaker 1>this news? Yeah, I UM talk to everybody in the

0:27:23.800 --> 0:27:26.840
<v Speaker 1>in the team meeting today and just said, uh, you know,

0:27:26.880 --> 0:27:29.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't agree with the decision, but you know, I'm here,

0:27:29.920 --> 0:27:31.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do my part. I'm gonna be the same

0:27:31.440 --> 0:27:34.520
<v Speaker 1>guy that that I've been since I've got here. You know,

0:27:34.560 --> 0:27:36.960
<v Speaker 1>I've had been through a lot in the nine years

0:27:37.040 --> 0:27:38.919
<v Speaker 1>that I've been here. I've done a lot for this city.

0:27:39.160 --> 0:27:41.880
<v Speaker 1>My heart has been in this in for this team,

0:27:41.920 --> 0:27:44.640
<v Speaker 1>in for this city, and uh, I think a lot

0:27:44.640 --> 0:27:47.640
<v Speaker 1>of people see that, and so, um, just letting everybody

0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:50.840
<v Speaker 1>know that I'm I'm gonna be the same guy, regardless

0:27:51.200 --> 0:27:55.280
<v Speaker 1>of the circumstances and regardless of the situation that I'm in.

0:27:55.440 --> 0:27:58.520
<v Speaker 1>But um, and it just kind of through the air.

0:27:59.160 --> 0:28:02.320
<v Speaker 1>Obviously there's the awkwardness of Okay, do I say something

0:28:02.320 --> 0:28:03.760
<v Speaker 1>to him? Do I not say something? Tune, do we

0:28:03.760 --> 0:28:05.320
<v Speaker 1>talk to him, do we leave him alone? And just like,

0:28:05.720 --> 0:28:08.560
<v Speaker 1>let's just get that behind us. You know, if you

0:28:08.600 --> 0:28:09.920
<v Speaker 1>want to say something to me, say something to me.

0:28:10.000 --> 0:28:13.400
<v Speaker 1>If not, don't, It's fine. I'm gonna be okay. Because

0:28:13.440 --> 0:28:16.119
<v Speaker 1>of the team's record, was there even a remote thought

0:28:16.320 --> 0:28:18.520
<v Speaker 1>in your mind that they might do it just to

0:28:18.520 --> 0:28:24.600
<v Speaker 1>shake things up? You know? I it's hard to say. Um,

0:28:25.320 --> 0:28:27.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, I felt like there's a lot of things

0:28:27.560 --> 0:28:30.760
<v Speaker 1>that I did well and gave us a chance to

0:28:30.800 --> 0:28:34.800
<v Speaker 1>win some of these games, and so um, you know,

0:28:34.880 --> 0:28:37.560
<v Speaker 1>and I've had a lot of conversations with Zach. You know,

0:28:37.840 --> 0:28:41.400
<v Speaker 1>he even said we've met after games. We've met on

0:28:41.520 --> 0:28:46.560
<v Speaker 1>numerous occasions. I've been that that office way more than

0:28:46.600 --> 0:28:48.640
<v Speaker 1>I've ever been in there and just trying to figure

0:28:48.640 --> 0:28:52.080
<v Speaker 1>out what we can do, what I can do, and um,

0:28:53.240 --> 0:28:55.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, obviously he wants to head a different direction.

0:28:57.480 --> 0:29:00.880
<v Speaker 1>Try to you know, I don't did you tell him

0:29:00.920 --> 0:29:02.480
<v Speaker 1>you don't agree? If I'm trying to talk him out

0:29:02.480 --> 0:29:04.760
<v Speaker 1>of it. It's one of those things where he's not

0:29:04.800 --> 0:29:08.840
<v Speaker 1>gonna bring it to me. It's already been decided. You know.

0:29:09.240 --> 0:29:12.440
<v Speaker 1>It's nothing I'm gonna say is going to change anything.

0:29:13.080 --> 0:29:16.239
<v Speaker 1>He obviously felt like it was the best thing to

0:29:16.360 --> 0:29:20.959
<v Speaker 1>do for this team, even though I don't agree with it.

0:29:21.040 --> 0:29:26.400
<v Speaker 1>But um, yeah, I mean it's I don't think anything

0:29:26.400 --> 0:29:27.720
<v Speaker 1>I could have said would have talked him out of it,

0:29:32.720 --> 0:29:36.360
<v Speaker 1>for sure. Yeah, I think just because of the unknown

0:29:36.440 --> 0:29:41.040
<v Speaker 1>of everything. Um, I've had a lot of stability here,

0:29:42.160 --> 0:29:47.520
<v Speaker 1>I've done a lot, and so to go through the

0:29:47.560 --> 0:29:50.000
<v Speaker 1>stretch that we've gone through, as you know from a

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:53.960
<v Speaker 1>football standpoint, and then to have this happen, and it's

0:29:53.960 --> 0:29:55.760
<v Speaker 1>one of those things you really have to For me,

0:29:55.840 --> 0:29:57.960
<v Speaker 1>I really rely on my faith knowing that God has

0:29:57.960 --> 0:30:02.400
<v Speaker 1>a plan for me and my family. And UM, it's

0:30:02.440 --> 0:30:05.400
<v Speaker 1>easy to say when things are good, but if you're

0:30:05.400 --> 0:30:06.959
<v Speaker 1>times like this, you really have to lean on that

0:30:07.000 --> 0:30:09.960
<v Speaker 1>and and trust and believe it. Given that the news

0:30:10.000 --> 0:30:12.440
<v Speaker 1>happened that Zach told you before the deadline, was there

0:30:12.480 --> 0:30:14.440
<v Speaker 1>any thought of I'd like to go somewhere else? They

0:30:14.440 --> 0:30:17.320
<v Speaker 1>didn't communicate that with them at all. Yeah, I think

0:30:17.360 --> 0:30:21.640
<v Speaker 1>that's an unfortunate thing. I mean, it happened three hours

0:30:21.640 --> 0:30:24.760
<v Speaker 1>before the trade deadline. You know, it's I wish it

0:30:24.760 --> 0:30:27.760
<v Speaker 1>would have at least, you know, if he was thinking

0:30:27.840 --> 0:30:30.520
<v Speaker 1>about it, at least let me try to see if

0:30:30.560 --> 0:30:33.200
<v Speaker 1>I could end up somewhere else or you know, at

0:30:33.240 --> 0:30:36.840
<v Speaker 1>least see if there is interest and possibly getting traded.

0:30:36.880 --> 0:30:39.160
<v Speaker 1>At that point, the way it was all handled, there

0:30:39.240 --> 0:30:42.320
<v Speaker 1>wasn't enough time to even um even have that happened.

0:30:42.520 --> 0:30:44.400
<v Speaker 1>Did you put you push that in this offseason and

0:30:44.520 --> 0:30:47.080
<v Speaker 1>to look to go somewhere else? You know. Right now,

0:30:47.160 --> 0:30:50.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm just focused on this year. Um. Obviously there's a

0:30:50.120 --> 0:30:54.160
<v Speaker 1>lot to come in the next eight weeks and beyond

0:30:54.560 --> 0:30:58.360
<v Speaker 1>um after this year, UM, I want to have an

0:30:58.360 --> 0:31:00.720
<v Speaker 1>opportunity to play. I want to have an opportunity to

0:31:00.800 --> 0:31:04.920
<v Speaker 1>be somewhere where I'm wanting and UM, you know, if

0:31:04.960 --> 0:31:08.200
<v Speaker 1>that's here, great, If that's not, then um, you know,

0:31:08.280 --> 0:31:11.000
<v Speaker 1>well we'll see. But right now it's not my focus.

0:31:11.000 --> 0:31:14.400
<v Speaker 1>My focus is just you know, playing my role on

0:31:14.440 --> 0:31:17.680
<v Speaker 1>this team. Been great. Ryan said that you told him

0:31:17.800 --> 0:31:19.960
<v Speaker 1>you won't want the relationship to be the same, don't

0:31:19.960 --> 0:31:23.440
<v Speaker 1>want it to change whatsoever. And um, he's looking forward to,

0:31:23.920 --> 0:31:26.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, trying to absorb all the knowledge you have

0:31:26.320 --> 0:31:28.880
<v Speaker 1>with respect your football I que and seeing the game

0:31:28.920 --> 0:31:31.360
<v Speaker 1>and seeing the field. Are you up for that? Yeah?

0:31:31.440 --> 0:31:34.600
<v Speaker 1>I Ryan was one of the first people I reached

0:31:34.600 --> 0:31:36.440
<v Speaker 1>out to just let him know, like, this has nothing

0:31:36.480 --> 0:31:38.840
<v Speaker 1>to do with Ryan. You know, Ryan and I have

0:31:38.920 --> 0:31:42.000
<v Speaker 1>been close ever since he's been here, and we've built

0:31:42.040 --> 0:31:45.960
<v Speaker 1>up a really good friendship. And um, so I don't

0:31:45.960 --> 0:31:47.880
<v Speaker 1>want Ryan to think that I have any ill will

0:31:47.920 --> 0:31:50.720
<v Speaker 1>towards him. He didn't do anything wrong. All he did was,

0:31:51.040 --> 0:31:52.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, be here and show up and do things

0:31:52.760 --> 0:31:54.640
<v Speaker 1>the right way. And they want to give him an

0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:58.239
<v Speaker 1>opportunity and so, um, like I said, I'm gonna help

0:31:58.320 --> 0:32:01.160
<v Speaker 1>him out. I've seen a lot of football, we have

0:32:01.200 --> 0:32:03.600
<v Speaker 1>a lot of division games coming up. I understand how

0:32:03.600 --> 0:32:07.080
<v Speaker 1>all all these defensive play does and just their scheme

0:32:07.120 --> 0:32:10.080
<v Speaker 1>and things. So I mean, I'll help him from that standpoint.

0:32:10.320 --> 0:32:13.200
<v Speaker 1>Did you vote that frustration with with Duke or anybody

0:32:13.200 --> 0:32:16.640
<v Speaker 1>in the front office, and not Zach. Well, I haven't

0:32:16.640 --> 0:32:19.120
<v Speaker 1>had a chance to talk to Duke or anybody, but

0:32:19.480 --> 0:32:21.920
<v Speaker 1>I know my agent was, um, you know, trying to

0:32:21.960 --> 0:32:24.080
<v Speaker 1>figure out what we could do in those last you know,

0:32:24.240 --> 0:32:26.920
<v Speaker 1>remaining a couple hours before the trade deadline. With the

0:32:26.920 --> 0:32:29.160
<v Speaker 1>way everything went down, I've heard richis and say even

0:32:29.240 --> 0:32:31.120
<v Speaker 1>Zach said it to a certain extent, did you deserve

0:32:31.160 --> 0:32:36.040
<v Speaker 1>a better faith here? Yeah. It's one of those things

0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:39.680
<v Speaker 1>where I've had a lot of good, you know football

0:32:39.800 --> 0:32:44.480
<v Speaker 1>years here. We've had a lot of good seasons. Can

0:32:44.560 --> 0:32:48.480
<v Speaker 1>look back at all the playoff you know runs that

0:32:48.480 --> 0:32:51.880
<v Speaker 1>we made the um just what we had to overcome

0:32:51.920 --> 0:32:55.200
<v Speaker 1>to get there, you know, to start a season eight. No,

0:32:55.520 --> 0:32:57.520
<v Speaker 1>I've been on the other side of the too, and

0:32:57.680 --> 0:33:02.160
<v Speaker 1>so I'd never envisioned it to kind of happen like this.

0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:06.280
<v Speaker 1>I never thought that I'd be in this position, um,

0:33:06.880 --> 0:33:11.240
<v Speaker 1>and so I wish it would have been different, absolutely,

0:33:11.880 --> 0:33:15.320
<v Speaker 1>because when Zach got hired here, it's like I had

0:33:15.320 --> 0:33:17.040
<v Speaker 1>a plan that we were gonna get this thing turned around,

0:33:17.040 --> 0:33:19.880
<v Speaker 1>and we were gonna get this thing going, and obviously

0:33:19.880 --> 0:33:21.520
<v Speaker 1>that hasn't happened. There's been a lot of other things

0:33:21.560 --> 0:33:26.680
<v Speaker 1>that have gone on that um probably you know, have

0:33:26.880 --> 0:33:29.200
<v Speaker 1>have caused it to not be the way that that

0:33:29.200 --> 0:33:31.880
<v Speaker 1>that we thought it was going to be and stuff

0:33:31.920 --> 0:33:35.720
<v Speaker 1>that's been out of my control, and so that's unfortunate.

0:33:36.160 --> 0:33:40.800
<v Speaker 1>But no, it's one of those things where I if

0:33:40.800 --> 0:33:42.920
<v Speaker 1>this is the end here I which I don't know,

0:33:43.040 --> 0:33:45.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the future holes like I was saying,

0:33:45.360 --> 0:33:48.440
<v Speaker 1>but um, now, this is not how I had envisioned

0:33:48.600 --> 0:33:53.640
<v Speaker 1>envisioned it. What was your conversation like with Heim, Yeah,

0:33:53.720 --> 0:33:59.040
<v Speaker 1>it's AJ's been one of my closest friends since since

0:33:59.280 --> 0:34:01.200
<v Speaker 1>we got here. Obvious we got here together. We've been

0:34:01.200 --> 0:34:05.800
<v Speaker 1>through this whole thing together, and so you know, he's,

0:34:06.760 --> 0:34:10.080
<v Speaker 1>like you said, he understands everything. He's AJ's got my back.

0:34:10.200 --> 0:34:11.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, we're gonna be friends for the rest of

0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:18.040
<v Speaker 1>our lives. So you know, it's it's tough to not

0:34:18.120 --> 0:34:20.279
<v Speaker 1>have a guy like that out there when when you're

0:34:20.280 --> 0:34:23.440
<v Speaker 1>going through all this, to not have your best player

0:34:23.480 --> 0:34:27.560
<v Speaker 1>on the field. But you know, like I said, has

0:34:27.600 --> 0:34:31.200
<v Speaker 1>been very supportive of me. Andy was upset about the

0:34:31.239 --> 0:34:34.160
<v Speaker 1>timing since it came so close to the trading deadline,

0:34:34.160 --> 0:34:36.759
<v Speaker 1>and some people think he was treated poorly and that

0:34:36.800 --> 0:34:39.440
<v Speaker 1>the Bengals owed it to him to make a deal.

0:34:40.120 --> 0:34:42.799
<v Speaker 1>I have a few thoughts on that topic. Number One,

0:34:43.400 --> 0:34:46.840
<v Speaker 1>Zach Taylor made the move now because it's the bye week,

0:34:47.120 --> 0:34:50.040
<v Speaker 1>giving Ryan Finley extra time to work with the number

0:34:50.040 --> 0:34:54.520
<v Speaker 1>one offense. That happened to be the same week as

0:34:54.520 --> 0:34:59.720
<v Speaker 1>the trade deadline. That was unfortunate timing. But more significantly,

0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:02.680
<v Speaker 1>the only way it made sense for the Bengals to

0:35:02.719 --> 0:35:06.160
<v Speaker 1>trade Dalton now is if there was a team really

0:35:06.239 --> 0:35:10.640
<v Speaker 1>desperate for a quarterback that would pay maximum value. Who

0:35:10.680 --> 0:35:13.799
<v Speaker 1>would that be? The Bears have been mentioned as a

0:35:13.840 --> 0:35:17.920
<v Speaker 1>possible candidate, But are we sure the Bears are ready

0:35:17.960 --> 0:35:21.759
<v Speaker 1>to punt Mitchell Trubisky the number two pick in the

0:35:21.760 --> 0:35:27.080
<v Speaker 1>twenty seventeen draft for a quarterback who currently has a

0:35:27.160 --> 0:35:31.880
<v Speaker 1>lower passer rating. The Bears gave up four draft picks

0:35:32.120 --> 0:35:35.200
<v Speaker 1>when they trade it up to draft Trubisky. Do you

0:35:35.280 --> 0:35:37.399
<v Speaker 1>really think they were going to give up a high

0:35:37.480 --> 0:35:41.839
<v Speaker 1>pick to trade for Dalton. If the Andy Dalton era

0:35:42.000 --> 0:35:45.280
<v Speaker 1>is over in Cincinnati, there will be a bigger market

0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:48.600
<v Speaker 1>to trade him in the off season. You would have

0:35:48.680 --> 0:35:51.799
<v Speaker 1>to think almost any contender would want Andy as a

0:35:51.880 --> 0:35:55.600
<v Speaker 1>backup quarterback, and there will likely be a few teams

0:35:55.640 --> 0:35:58.360
<v Speaker 1>that would want him to compete to be their starter.

0:35:59.320 --> 0:36:02.160
<v Speaker 1>Andy is under contract for one more season, so it's

0:36:02.200 --> 0:36:04.520
<v Speaker 1>not like the Bengals are about to lose him to

0:36:04.600 --> 0:36:09.200
<v Speaker 1>free agency. If the Dalton era is over in Cincinnati,

0:36:09.680 --> 0:36:11.759
<v Speaker 1>there will be plenty of time to trade him for

0:36:11.800 --> 0:36:15.319
<v Speaker 1>a draft pick in the off season. Now time to

0:36:15.360 --> 0:36:19.480
<v Speaker 1>hear from one more quarterback. In Eddie Dalton's NFL debut,

0:36:19.560 --> 0:36:21.520
<v Speaker 1>he had to exit in the second quarter when he

0:36:21.560 --> 0:36:25.399
<v Speaker 1>injured his wrist against the Cleveland Browns. Enter back up

0:36:25.440 --> 0:36:28.680
<v Speaker 1>Bruce Gradkowski, who rallied the Bengals to an opening day

0:36:28.719 --> 0:36:32.920
<v Speaker 1>win by engineering a fourth quarter comeback that included the

0:36:33.080 --> 0:36:38.040
<v Speaker 1>first touchdown catch of AJ Green's career. After a long

0:36:38.160 --> 0:36:43.120
<v Speaker 1>NFL career that included stops with the Buccaneers, Rams, Browns, Raiders, Bengals,

0:36:43.120 --> 0:36:46.920
<v Speaker 1>and Steelers, Gradkowski is doing some broadcasting these days for

0:36:47.160 --> 0:36:52.880
<v Speaker 1>Serious NFL Radio and evaluating quarterback play for Pro Football Focus.

0:36:53.320 --> 0:36:56.759
<v Speaker 1>He is uniquely qualified to discuss what went down in

0:36:56.840 --> 0:37:00.319
<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati this week, and Bruce joined lapping me on the

0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:03.840
<v Speaker 1>Bengals Game Plan Show. I started our conversation by asking

0:37:03.960 --> 0:37:07.640
<v Speaker 1>him his initial reaction to this week's news. You know

0:37:07.960 --> 0:37:10.880
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't surprised just for the fact of where the

0:37:10.920 --> 0:37:13.359
<v Speaker 1>team is at as a whole. You know, you see

0:37:13.400 --> 0:37:16.360
<v Speaker 1>these teams going through changes and trying to rebuild and

0:37:16.400 --> 0:37:20.960
<v Speaker 1>do different things. And now if you're Cincinnati and the

0:37:21.040 --> 0:37:24.040
<v Speaker 1>last few years haven't been the greatest, you have a

0:37:24.120 --> 0:37:26.799
<v Speaker 1>new head coach, you really have to see where you're

0:37:26.800 --> 0:37:28.840
<v Speaker 1>at as a football team. I mean, right now, I

0:37:28.880 --> 0:37:32.279
<v Speaker 1>don't think it's as much on Andy Dalton as it

0:37:32.400 --> 0:37:35.120
<v Speaker 1>is as much as where do they go for the future.

0:37:35.360 --> 0:37:38.279
<v Speaker 1>You know, is Thinley a guy? Is he a viable guy?

0:37:38.719 --> 0:37:41.239
<v Speaker 1>You know? Is Andy still part of the mix or not?

0:37:41.480 --> 0:37:43.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you look at it, guys, and he's been

0:37:43.320 --> 0:37:46.440
<v Speaker 1>sacked twenty nine times this year. He has twenty one

0:37:46.560 --> 0:37:49.000
<v Speaker 1>drop passes. And this is all from the Pro Football

0:37:49.040 --> 0:37:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Focus grades that I do that I do with the guys,

0:37:52.120 --> 0:37:56.200
<v Speaker 1>and you know, so it's not that he's getting much

0:37:56.239 --> 0:37:59.320
<v Speaker 1>help out there. You know, he started with Mohammed Sanu,

0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:05.080
<v Speaker 1>Jay Green, Marvin Jones, and now those weapons he has

0:38:05.120 --> 0:38:07.640
<v Speaker 1>had in the past is diminished a little bit. And

0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:10.960
<v Speaker 1>now when you're get in that position, as you as

0:38:11.040 --> 0:38:13.919
<v Speaker 1>Andy doone is you try to do more. You try

0:38:13.960 --> 0:38:15.880
<v Speaker 1>to take more on your plate, you try to squeeze

0:38:15.920 --> 0:38:17.880
<v Speaker 1>more and throws in there. You try to feel like

0:38:17.920 --> 0:38:20.240
<v Speaker 1>you have to save the world on every single snap,

0:38:20.560 --> 0:38:22.400
<v Speaker 1>and then it starts to catch up to you. And

0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:25.160
<v Speaker 1>then you have, you know, a few mistakes here and

0:38:25.200 --> 0:38:27.239
<v Speaker 1>there that you want to take back if you force

0:38:27.360 --> 0:38:30.640
<v Speaker 1>football in the tight coverage and things of that sort,

0:38:30.680 --> 0:38:33.960
<v Speaker 1>and then you have miscommunication on route. So it's a

0:38:34.000 --> 0:38:36.680
<v Speaker 1>lot of things going on as you guys see weekend

0:38:36.719 --> 0:38:39.000
<v Speaker 1>and week out. And I think you have to start

0:38:39.040 --> 0:38:41.960
<v Speaker 1>the quarterback position because right now you do have to

0:38:42.000 --> 0:38:45.200
<v Speaker 1>see what do we even have behind Andy and where

0:38:45.200 --> 0:38:47.239
<v Speaker 1>are we going for the future, because this is all

0:38:47.280 --> 0:38:49.440
<v Speaker 1>in Zach Taylor's hands and he has to try to

0:38:49.440 --> 0:38:53.040
<v Speaker 1>figure this out. Yeah, you make a bunch of excellent

0:38:53.080 --> 0:38:56.600
<v Speaker 1>points there. To me, it's very simply every member of

0:38:56.600 --> 0:39:00.359
<v Speaker 1>the organization, front office, coaching staff, and teammates have let

0:39:00.360 --> 0:39:03.120
<v Speaker 1>Andy Dalton down more than he's let them down. He

0:39:03.280 --> 0:39:06.120
<v Speaker 1>as you know, I mean, the quarterback gets very little

0:39:06.160 --> 0:39:08.040
<v Speaker 1>credit when it's going well and all the blame when

0:39:08.040 --> 0:39:11.040
<v Speaker 1>it goes poorly. And for all the things you talked about,

0:39:11.120 --> 0:39:14.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, his supporting cast is nowhere near you know

0:39:14.520 --> 0:39:17.440
<v Speaker 1>what it was. So you know, they're they're making a move,

0:39:17.760 --> 0:39:21.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, and they're moving on. My thing is AJ

0:39:21.760 --> 0:39:24.520
<v Speaker 1>Green if he comes back after the bye. Andy Dalton

0:39:24.560 --> 0:39:28.600
<v Speaker 1>has not had AJ Green all. So incomes Ryan Finley.

0:39:28.600 --> 0:39:30.920
<v Speaker 1>He's got AJ Green right off the bat. And now

0:39:31.000 --> 0:39:33.040
<v Speaker 1>you won't have an AJ Green for sixty snaps, but

0:39:33.120 --> 0:39:36.719
<v Speaker 1>AJ Green for any snaps. That changes everything and you're

0:39:36.760 --> 0:39:39.799
<v Speaker 1>not comparing apples to apples anymore. How tough would that be?

0:39:40.360 --> 0:39:43.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, if you're in andy shoes and AJ comes back,

0:39:43.280 --> 0:39:45.719
<v Speaker 1>John Ross, some of these guys start coming back from

0:39:45.719 --> 0:39:47.920
<v Speaker 1>injury and you're not the guy, how tough would that

0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:50.879
<v Speaker 1>be to deal with? Oh? That that's a tough tie

0:39:50.960 --> 0:39:53.680
<v Speaker 1>to swallow because I look at look. I played with Andy.

0:39:53.719 --> 0:39:55.680
<v Speaker 1>I backed him up, and as a young guy coming

0:39:55.719 --> 0:39:57.920
<v Speaker 1>in the league, he was ahead of the curve as

0:39:57.920 --> 0:40:02.960
<v Speaker 1>far as understanding protection. I understand how he's blocking what

0:40:03.000 --> 0:40:05.160
<v Speaker 1>the old lineman should do in the running backs and

0:40:05.520 --> 0:40:08.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, navigating through hand singnals to the receivers to

0:40:08.320 --> 0:40:11.120
<v Speaker 1>put the receivers in the proper routes to run. So

0:40:11.520 --> 0:40:14.120
<v Speaker 1>you're not gonna get better than Dalton right now. I

0:40:14.120 --> 0:40:17.000
<v Speaker 1>mean you're really not. I mean, you know, yes, maybe

0:40:17.040 --> 0:40:19.920
<v Speaker 1>you want to see what Finley has, but I don't

0:40:19.920 --> 0:40:23.080
<v Speaker 1>expect much to change. I mean, you know, it's not

0:40:23.160 --> 0:40:25.399
<v Speaker 1>like the play calling has been off the carter to either,

0:40:25.520 --> 0:40:28.360
<v Speaker 1>so you know, you know, so a lot of things

0:40:28.400 --> 0:40:30.920
<v Speaker 1>play play a part in this, and it's just it

0:40:31.040 --> 0:40:34.759
<v Speaker 1>just thinks that, you know, Andy has to shoulders a

0:40:34.800 --> 0:40:37.360
<v Speaker 1>load right now, and who knows. I mean maybe this

0:40:37.560 --> 0:40:41.000
<v Speaker 1>just support a point that you know, when the dust settles,

0:40:41.000 --> 0:40:43.520
<v Speaker 1>they'll see what they have. But you know, you look

0:40:43.560 --> 0:40:47.240
<v Speaker 1>around the league guys too, and it's hard to find

0:40:47.280 --> 0:40:50.759
<v Speaker 1>a viable starting quarterback that you trust week in and

0:40:50.800 --> 0:40:53.239
<v Speaker 1>week out. I've always felt like Andy was that guy

0:40:53.400 --> 0:40:55.920
<v Speaker 1>you could trust. I mean, he's accurate, he's gonna go

0:40:55.960 --> 0:40:58.040
<v Speaker 1>with the right place at the right time with the football.

0:40:58.360 --> 0:41:02.920
<v Speaker 1>He's gonna put your offense and the good run past situations,

0:41:03.040 --> 0:41:06.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, as as audibles are concerned. So it's hard.

0:41:06.520 --> 0:41:08.719
<v Speaker 1>I just feel like now you're taking a step back

0:41:09.160 --> 0:41:12.520
<v Speaker 1>if you're the Bengals and they really need to figure out,

0:41:12.680 --> 0:41:16.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, where do they go from here. Former Bengals

0:41:16.040 --> 0:41:19.840
<v Speaker 1>quarterback Bruce Gradkowski is our guest. You studied Ryan Finley

0:41:19.920 --> 0:41:23.680
<v Speaker 1>before the draft. What did you think? I like him?

0:41:23.760 --> 0:41:26.120
<v Speaker 1>I actually did like him coming out because I felt

0:41:26.120 --> 0:41:29.520
<v Speaker 1>like his timing and his rhythm, his footwork, he kind

0:41:29.520 --> 0:41:33.840
<v Speaker 1>of had it already. You could tell he understood progressions

0:41:34.080 --> 0:41:37.799
<v Speaker 1>and just how your feet match up with throws. And

0:41:37.880 --> 0:41:39.680
<v Speaker 1>I think that just put them ahead of the curve.

0:41:39.719 --> 0:41:41.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you look at a guy like Drew Locke's,

0:41:41.920 --> 0:41:45.360
<v Speaker 1>he's really not ready to play yet because of those things,

0:41:45.400 --> 0:41:48.080
<v Speaker 1>the timing and the four. And I think for Finley

0:41:48.120 --> 0:41:51.839
<v Speaker 1>it helped tremendously getting to watch Andy for how many

0:41:51.880 --> 0:41:55.000
<v Speaker 1>weeks already and getting to learn from him because you

0:41:55.160 --> 0:41:58.160
<v Speaker 1>learned so much by sitting back and watching. And I

0:41:58.200 --> 0:42:00.400
<v Speaker 1>thought Finley had a pretty good preseas, didn't you know?

0:42:00.400 --> 0:42:03.080
<v Speaker 1>He made some plays that, you know, we're impressive. There's

0:42:03.120 --> 0:42:05.759
<v Speaker 1>sometimes that maybe he held onto the ball too long

0:42:05.880 --> 0:42:08.480
<v Speaker 1>or in the pocket awareness and you have to protect

0:42:08.480 --> 0:42:10.279
<v Speaker 1>the football in the pocket. You see these young guys,

0:42:10.280 --> 0:42:14.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean Gardner Minshew, he hasn't thrown many balls to

0:42:14.320 --> 0:42:16.840
<v Speaker 1>put in harm's way, but when he takes sacks in

0:42:16.880 --> 0:42:19.759
<v Speaker 1>the pocket, he's fumbling. You can count, you know, at

0:42:19.800 --> 0:42:22.880
<v Speaker 1>least one fumball game Minshew's gonna have in the pocket.

0:42:22.960 --> 0:42:25.600
<v Speaker 1>Same thing with Kyle Allen, so these young guys have

0:42:25.680 --> 0:42:29.760
<v Speaker 1>a tendencies and not realize the pressure that the pocket brings.

0:42:29.760 --> 0:42:33.200
<v Speaker 1>It collapsed as fast guys around who swinging, who's sweeping

0:42:33.239 --> 0:42:36.680
<v Speaker 1>at the football. So it's not easy. But as a whole,

0:42:36.800 --> 0:42:39.959
<v Speaker 1>I liked Finley as a quarterback. I liked his feet,

0:42:39.560 --> 0:42:42.719
<v Speaker 1>his footwork, his time and rhythm. I think he has

0:42:42.760 --> 0:42:46.200
<v Speaker 1>the right type of accuracy and he has enough arm strength.

0:42:46.480 --> 0:42:49.480
<v Speaker 1>So it'll be interesting to see what happens given this

0:42:49.600 --> 0:42:54.600
<v Speaker 1>opportunity tunity. So without aj Green, John Ross, two guys

0:42:54.600 --> 0:42:57.000
<v Speaker 1>on the outside stretching the field, the Bengals were playing

0:42:57.040 --> 0:42:58.960
<v Speaker 1>offense in a closet. They're in a box. You know,

0:42:59.320 --> 0:43:01.560
<v Speaker 1>everybody's us. The line of scream is loaded up. Joe

0:43:01.600 --> 0:43:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Mixon has more guys in the box they can block,

0:43:04.080 --> 0:43:06.200
<v Speaker 1>and you know they're saying, yeah, we can cover your guys.

0:43:06.239 --> 0:43:08.040
<v Speaker 1>We don't need extra people. We're gonna load up and

0:43:08.080 --> 0:43:10.160
<v Speaker 1>make you know, you throw it to beat us. And

0:43:10.360 --> 0:43:13.680
<v Speaker 1>the major weapons are out and then and he's starting

0:43:13.680 --> 0:43:15.920
<v Speaker 1>to get hit and and he's you know, there's not

0:43:16.120 --> 0:43:19.480
<v Speaker 1>windows out there, and Andy's clock changes, and you know,

0:43:19.560 --> 0:43:21.759
<v Speaker 1>people are like, oh, the dude shell shocked. What is

0:43:21.760 --> 0:43:23.920
<v Speaker 1>it like as a quarterback. When you find yourself in

0:43:23.960 --> 0:43:27.279
<v Speaker 1>that situation, you know, you're you're you're throwing, You're never

0:43:27.360 --> 0:43:29.840
<v Speaker 1>able to transfer your weight, you know what, your mechanics

0:43:29.840 --> 0:43:32.359
<v Speaker 1>start to suffer because of all that. We just you know,

0:43:32.440 --> 0:43:35.000
<v Speaker 1>just laid out there. What's it like? How how hard

0:43:35.080 --> 0:43:39.000
<v Speaker 1>is it to fight through that? Yeah? No, it's it's

0:43:39.080 --> 0:43:41.600
<v Speaker 1>real tough, because it happened to me in Oakland. You know,

0:43:41.640 --> 0:43:44.719
<v Speaker 1>when I it took over for JaMarcus Russell, I kind

0:43:44.800 --> 0:43:47.680
<v Speaker 1>of tended to you know, sling it from the back,

0:43:47.920 --> 0:43:50.200
<v Speaker 1>back the foot and you can sling it side arm

0:43:50.280 --> 0:43:53.080
<v Speaker 1>because you're always used to that pressure in your face

0:43:53.520 --> 0:43:56.320
<v Speaker 1>and you're trying to just get the ball out without

0:43:56.400 --> 0:44:00.200
<v Speaker 1>taking a sack. So you're you're technique and on the

0:44:00.200 --> 0:44:02.480
<v Speaker 1>metals go out the window because now you're just kind

0:44:02.520 --> 0:44:05.160
<v Speaker 1>of trying to survive and trying to make the play

0:44:05.160 --> 0:44:07.640
<v Speaker 1>the best you can. So it's hard. Then when you

0:44:07.680 --> 0:44:10.719
<v Speaker 1>get a good clean pocket, you're sitting back there and

0:44:10.760 --> 0:44:12.919
<v Speaker 1>you look like you're Auntie and throwing off your back

0:44:12.920 --> 0:44:15.520
<v Speaker 1>foot when you have all this time. But that hasn't

0:44:15.560 --> 0:44:18.000
<v Speaker 1>necessarily been the case. I mean, like like I said,

0:44:18.000 --> 0:44:20.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Andy's taking the most sacks so far this

0:44:20.840 --> 0:44:24.280
<v Speaker 1>year has the most dropped passes, so things have definitely

0:44:24.360 --> 0:44:27.080
<v Speaker 1>not been working in his favor. Now, look, you guys

0:44:27.080 --> 0:44:28.920
<v Speaker 1>know a lot of you know, some of those sacks too,

0:44:28.920 --> 0:44:30.920
<v Speaker 1>aren't just on the offensive line. You know a lot

0:44:30.960 --> 0:44:33.440
<v Speaker 1>of things, playing the part with Andy holding the ball

0:44:33.440 --> 0:44:36.400
<v Speaker 1>a little too long, did Andy drift too far outside?

0:44:36.480 --> 0:44:39.040
<v Speaker 1>You know, the integrity of the pocket, or you know

0:44:39.280 --> 0:44:42.640
<v Speaker 1>that kind of stuff. But the majority is protected, being

0:44:42.680 --> 0:44:45.160
<v Speaker 1>able to be protected, you know, running backs picking up

0:44:45.160 --> 0:44:47.840
<v Speaker 1>their blitzes and knowing who to block. A lot of

0:44:47.880 --> 0:44:50.359
<v Speaker 1>that goes into it. So I just think there's a

0:44:50.360 --> 0:44:53.040
<v Speaker 1>lot right now in Cincinnati. I'm trying to digest it

0:44:53.000 --> 0:44:55.480
<v Speaker 1>at all. I don't know how you guys are doing it.

0:44:55.640 --> 0:44:58.319
<v Speaker 1>Not very well. I'm throwing from my mouth every night.

0:44:59.080 --> 0:45:02.440
<v Speaker 1>No digestion, kind of whole heart. Questions for a former

0:45:02.440 --> 0:45:06.760
<v Speaker 1>Bengals quarterback, Bruce Gradkowski. You have been in Ryan Finley's

0:45:06.760 --> 0:45:09.319
<v Speaker 1>shoes as a rookie in Tampa Bay back in two

0:45:09.320 --> 0:45:11.680
<v Speaker 1>thousand and six. You took over during the season when

0:45:11.760 --> 0:45:15.640
<v Speaker 1>Chris Simms got hurt. What advice would you give Ryan Finley?

0:45:17.280 --> 0:45:19.880
<v Speaker 1>I think you just you just have to execute the offense,

0:45:20.000 --> 0:45:23.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, I was given a few opportunities, you know,

0:45:23.480 --> 0:45:26.400
<v Speaker 1>especially my first one in Tampa as a rookie. I

0:45:26.440 --> 0:45:31.000
<v Speaker 1>started eleven games, and you know, I had a good preseason,

0:45:31.000 --> 0:45:33.320
<v Speaker 1>and then once the season started, I took over. I

0:45:33.600 --> 0:45:36.359
<v Speaker 1>played a good shoot games, and then I started thinking

0:45:36.440 --> 0:45:39.040
<v Speaker 1>too much. Now you're trying to be perfect. Now you're

0:45:39.080 --> 0:45:41.960
<v Speaker 1>trying to please the coach. Oh, you know, what's what's

0:45:42.000 --> 0:45:44.319
<v Speaker 1>Gruden want me to do? I know what I should do,

0:45:44.600 --> 0:45:46.640
<v Speaker 1>But what's he want me to do? Instead of? You know,

0:45:46.960 --> 0:45:50.120
<v Speaker 1>just trust yourself. I told I talked to Mason Rudolph

0:45:50.400 --> 0:45:52.400
<v Speaker 1>before the Monday night football game and I told him,

0:45:52.400 --> 0:45:54.920
<v Speaker 1>I said, look, man, if there's anything you could do,

0:45:55.160 --> 0:45:58.520
<v Speaker 1>just trust yourself. Trust yourself in between those white lines.

0:45:58.600 --> 0:46:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Trust what you see out there. You can grate the

0:46:01.480 --> 0:46:05.440
<v Speaker 1>film tomorrow, you could get coach tomorrow. But trust what

0:46:05.520 --> 0:46:08.960
<v Speaker 1>you're seeing out there and just play decisive because the

0:46:08.960 --> 0:46:11.840
<v Speaker 1>worst thing you can do is the quarterback is played indecisive.

0:46:12.120 --> 0:46:14.279
<v Speaker 1>And I see that in a lot with young quarterbacks.

0:46:14.520 --> 0:46:16.800
<v Speaker 1>If you pick the wrong side and you weren't supposed

0:46:16.800 --> 0:46:19.640
<v Speaker 1>to work that side, work the heck out of that

0:46:19.680 --> 0:46:22.000
<v Speaker 1>side and just stick to it and just get after

0:46:22.080 --> 0:46:24.919
<v Speaker 1>it and try to find a completion because you'll tend

0:46:24.960 --> 0:46:27.239
<v Speaker 1>to try to flip to the other side. Now you're

0:46:27.280 --> 0:46:29.600
<v Speaker 1>throwing a hitch late and it's going for a pick

0:46:29.640 --> 0:46:32.080
<v Speaker 1>six the other way. So I think the most important

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<v Speaker 1>thing is just trying to play decisive and trust your

0:46:34.600 --> 0:46:37.680
<v Speaker 1>preparation throughout the week and trust what you see on Sunday.

0:46:38.200 --> 0:46:42.160
<v Speaker 1>Andy Dalton's future, you know, you just never know what

0:46:42.680 --> 0:46:45.759
<v Speaker 1>right now. I asked Zach, is this a one game

0:46:45.840 --> 0:46:48.200
<v Speaker 1>situation or is it? He goes no. You know, we're

0:46:48.239 --> 0:46:50.040
<v Speaker 1>giving him the rest of the season. You got to

0:46:50.080 --> 0:46:52.480
<v Speaker 1>give a young guy a chance. But there's always injury,

0:46:52.520 --> 0:46:54.759
<v Speaker 1>there's always we know Andy Dalton's going to be ready

0:46:54.760 --> 0:46:56.520
<v Speaker 1>to play. We know Andy Dalton be right in there

0:46:56.600 --> 0:46:58.960
<v Speaker 1>if needed to play as a backup. He's a little

0:46:58.960 --> 0:47:02.319
<v Speaker 1>disgruntled because of the timing of the bye week the

0:47:02.400 --> 0:47:05.480
<v Speaker 1>Bengals had. It was trade deadline time, and you know

0:47:05.520 --> 0:47:06.959
<v Speaker 1>he was hoping that he might have had a little

0:47:07.000 --> 0:47:09.640
<v Speaker 1>more time to see what kind of interesting might have

0:47:09.719 --> 0:47:12.200
<v Speaker 1>been out there in the NFL for him. What do

0:47:12.239 --> 0:47:14.359
<v Speaker 1>you think his future halts? I mean, obviously the guy

0:47:14.400 --> 0:47:16.719
<v Speaker 1>belongs in the National Football League. Do you think he

0:47:16.840 --> 0:47:19.239
<v Speaker 1>ends up going somewhere else and starting I'm not I

0:47:19.239 --> 0:47:21.160
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I guess I'm asking to be a Southsayer.

0:47:21.280 --> 0:47:23.239
<v Speaker 1>But what's your opinion? What do you think might happen

0:47:23.280 --> 0:47:26.680
<v Speaker 1>in the future. Yeah, I mean that Look, Andy Doan

0:47:26.880 --> 0:47:29.479
<v Speaker 1>is a good young quarterback. I mean still he still

0:47:29.520 --> 0:47:32.520
<v Speaker 1>has a lot of mouths on that arm. And you know,

0:47:32.840 --> 0:47:34.680
<v Speaker 1>I was thinking about it and I was like, man,

0:47:34.960 --> 0:47:36.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, what about the Bears. What is the Bears

0:47:36.880 --> 0:47:40.520
<v Speaker 1>traded off for him? I just think Andy's a reliable player.

0:47:40.560 --> 0:47:43.959
<v Speaker 1>It's hard to find a quarterback you can trust that's

0:47:43.960 --> 0:47:47.319
<v Speaker 1>going to be accurate, smart, make the right decisions, put

0:47:47.320 --> 0:47:50.839
<v Speaker 1>your offense in good positions. And he is now he

0:47:50.880 --> 0:47:52.880
<v Speaker 1>needs the pieces around him. I mean, he's kind of

0:47:52.920 --> 0:47:55.520
<v Speaker 1>Deshaun Wapton that's going to run around make plays and

0:47:55.640 --> 0:47:58.880
<v Speaker 1>Patrick Mahomes. He needs the talent around him. That's why

0:47:58.920 --> 0:48:02.799
<v Speaker 1>I thought Chicago might be a good spot. But you know,

0:48:03.200 --> 0:48:05.759
<v Speaker 1>we'll see how it unfolds. But I know there will

0:48:05.800 --> 0:48:09.560
<v Speaker 1>be definitely teams in the mix. He might be, you know,

0:48:10.000 --> 0:48:12.440
<v Speaker 1>might end up being that guy like a Brian Hoyer was.

0:48:12.520 --> 0:48:15.040
<v Speaker 1>Where you go to Cleveland, they bring you in to

0:48:15.120 --> 0:48:18.560
<v Speaker 1>compete with the young guy and but he will have

0:48:18.560 --> 0:48:21.680
<v Speaker 1>an opportunity. Again, I just think Joan's too smart of

0:48:21.680 --> 0:48:25.360
<v Speaker 1>a quarterback, He's too reliable. Who knows out there in

0:48:25.400 --> 0:48:28.160
<v Speaker 1>Oakland if it's a good fit with John Gruden and

0:48:28.280 --> 0:48:31.040
<v Speaker 1>him matching up in that system that Andy was a

0:48:31.040 --> 0:48:34.239
<v Speaker 1>part of with Jay Gruden back in the day. So

0:48:35.280 --> 0:48:37.640
<v Speaker 1>you just never know. But I think Andy has still

0:48:37.680 --> 0:48:39.440
<v Speaker 1>a lot of good football left in him, and I

0:48:39.480 --> 0:48:42.200
<v Speaker 1>hope mentally he's handling this the right way. He's a

0:48:42.200 --> 0:48:45.919
<v Speaker 1>true professional, so I know he is. He's gonna support Finley.

0:48:45.960 --> 0:48:48.359
<v Speaker 1>But guys, you know, I mean, it's tough, man. It's

0:48:48.400 --> 0:48:50.759
<v Speaker 1>tough when you get benched and now you're sitting on

0:48:50.800 --> 0:48:53.799
<v Speaker 1>the sideline watching. It happened to me, you know, my

0:48:53.880 --> 0:48:56.480
<v Speaker 1>rookie year. You asked me about, you know, advice for

0:48:56.560 --> 0:49:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Finley because I took over for Chris Simms start eleven games,

0:49:00.200 --> 0:49:02.720
<v Speaker 1>and then advice for Andy because in that same season

0:49:03.080 --> 0:49:05.919
<v Speaker 1>I got bench for Tim Rote, you know, going into

0:49:06.400 --> 0:49:09.799
<v Speaker 1>the twelfth Star. So you see both sides of it.

0:49:09.880 --> 0:49:11.800
<v Speaker 1>So it's a world win, man. You got to handle

0:49:11.840 --> 0:49:15.120
<v Speaker 1>those ups and down. But lap you know that that's

0:49:15.120 --> 0:49:19.040
<v Speaker 1>what this game's about all Thanks to Bruce Gradkowski, and

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