WEBVTT - Draft Recap: Joining Forces 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:06.960 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.960 --> 0:00:16.759 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. He's Hanging with the 0:00:16.840 --> 0:00:22.360 Talking Cowboys break streaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:22.360 --> 0:00:32.840 and the official Dallas Cowboys out Welcome to a special, 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:38.040 very special edition of Hanging with the Talking Cowboys break. 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:41.559 I am Shannon Gross, host of Hanging with the Boys. 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:48.040 I am joined by Rob Phillips from Talking Cowboys, Isaiah Standback, 0:00:48.159 --> 0:00:55.440 former Dallas Cowboy of Talking Cowboys, and Nick Eatman from 0:00:55.560 --> 0:01:00.880 the break. How are we doing today, fellas? What's up here? 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:08.200 Lovely lovely good man? So we we we got together. 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:11.720 Nick called me today and said, man, that was such 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:14.040 a hell of a first round of the draft. Some 0:01:14.080 --> 0:01:16.680 people's jaws are still on the floor. Some people are 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:19.440 really pumped. Some people are in disbelief that they didn't 0:01:19.480 --> 0:01:22.399 go defense. We need to talk about this. Let's get 0:01:22.400 --> 0:01:25.679 a show together. And I was like, let's do it, man. 0:01:25.800 --> 0:01:29.480 So Rob, we pulled you in. Isaiah and Isaiah you 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:33.520 I'm interested to get your thoughts on going with a 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:40.400 wide receiver in the first round when you absolutely needed 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:44.760 defense and everybody thought you were going defense, but when 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:48.120 you gave a guy and Steven said it last night 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:51.920 after the after the show, after the draft, they had 0:01:51.960 --> 0:01:54.280 this guy number six on their board. When he falls 0:01:54.320 --> 0:02:00.560 to number seventeen, you gotta go with him, right, absolutely, Yeah, 0:02:00.800 --> 0:02:02.560 those guys didn't have a choice. Man. As much as 0:02:02.560 --> 0:02:05.080 they like all the Cowboy Nation recognized that we needed 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:08.360 defense and we needed to take care of everything, all 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:10.040 the opportunities that were presenting in front of us on 0:02:10.080 --> 0:02:12.160 that side of the ball. When somebody like that falls 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:14.480 into your lap and you have an opportunity to solidify 0:02:14.560 --> 0:02:18.480 your offense, you just can't miss on it. Rob, What 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:20.960 were your I know you were you were watching the 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:23.600 broadcast last night, you were watching, you know, the Cowboys 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:26.360 Live Draft show and seeing how everything was playing out. 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:29.240 What what did you think whenever the pick came down 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:33.799 from the Cowboys. Well, like everybody, I was surprised. I mean, 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:36.679 we had a Fox for Southwest taping earlier in the 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:39.280 day and we talked wide receivers and I think out 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:41.040 of my mouth was well, we don't need to worry 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:42.960 about CD Lamb. Yeah, he's great and all, but he's 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:46.000 gonna be in the top twelve picks. And when it 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:49.120 didn't happen, you know, like Isaiah said, you got to 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:51.840 take your best value, especially when it's that high of 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:55.000 a value, and to me it's you know, a lot 0:02:55.000 --> 0:02:58.600 of times in the draft, the safe pick isn't always 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:02.360 the sexy pick. You know, twenty fourteen, Zack Martin wasn't 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:04.560 a splashy draft pick. Now he turned out to be 0:03:04.720 --> 0:03:08.320 by far the right pick over Johnny Football. But the 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:10.720 Cowboys in this instance, they got, they got. They made 0:03:10.760 --> 0:03:14.200 a splashy pick, and they made the safest pick. Although 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:17.440 to Isaiah's point, you know, they need to look at 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:20.360 defense now going forward in the draft, whether it's a corner, 0:03:20.440 --> 0:03:23.359 whether it's a safety, whether it's a defensive lineman. They 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:27.160 need to address that. But I do think it does 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:29.600 feel somewhat ad need for them. I know Nick wrote 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:32.320 a column about best player available. He's exactly right, but 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:35.000 wide receiver to some extent, maybe top three or four 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:39.360 needs that they had, and they addressed it early. Nick, 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:44.280 you were you go ahead, and I was just gonna 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:46.000 say you were right. You were right in the middle 0:03:46.000 --> 0:03:49.200 of talking to DeMarcus Ware and Jamie Thoughts on our 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:51.560 live draft show last night when the pick came down, 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:54.480 and you got to talk to him a little bit after. 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:58.240 What what did you think when all that was going Now, well, 0:03:58.280 --> 0:04:00.960 you know they were you know, d Ware of course, 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:02.720 was like, you gotta get the pass rushure, right, you 0:04:02.760 --> 0:04:04.360 gotta you gotta get you know, Chase on you got 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:08.160 you know, And but you know, I was saying, let's 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:10.320 let's you know, look at these wide receivers. I was 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:14.040 actually on when Jerry Judy was getting picked. So you know, 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:17.039 at that point, you know, Ken Law and Judy and Lamb, 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:19.560 it's like they're gonna get somebody really good here. But 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:22.640 but I thought, I think Rob said it best, especially 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:25.159 when you think about what Jerry Jones loves. If you 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:27.760 can get the sexy pick and the smart pick is 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:30.520 the same one, well that's all. That's a no brainer. 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:32.880 That's all day long for Jerry Jones. So I thought 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:35.719 that that's very well said, because you know, that's what 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:37.200 you're always trying to do. It You're trying to make 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:39.719 a smart pick. But you know, if you could sell Jerseys, 0:04:39.920 --> 0:04:42.560 let's do that too. And so you know, now I 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:44.760 don't know exactly what number he's gonna wear just yet. 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:46.840 I don't know if that's been thrown out there, but 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:50.240 if he puts those two numbers together. Did Jerry say 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:55.400 you wanted to wear eighty eight? That it's it's a 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:59.240 weird thing. I think Jerry had a college teammate at 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:03.200 Arkansas that passed away. His name was Lamb, Jerry Lamb. 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:07.560 Maybe he wore eighty eight in Arkansas and he wanted 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:10.800 him to maybe honor him. Where eighty eight. Oh, by 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:14.680 the way, that happens to be the number of the 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:18.240 three best wide receivers, you know, three of the best 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:20.880 in the history of the of the team, and we 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:24.039 made a documentary about eighty eight. So that's pretty big 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:25.600 if you want to throw him in there. I think 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:27.520 he wants to wear number ten. But we'll see who 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:32.839 wins that one. What was it was Dez pick number 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:39.440 seventeen in the first round as well twenty four? Okay, 0:05:39.640 --> 0:05:43.000 add one seven to that. So so is anybody on 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:46.880 this upset that they didn't go defense or we all 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:49.240 on board with this pick and we think that was 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:52.080 the right thing considering the talent that that failed to 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:56.560 where they were at. I'll say this, Shan and if 0:05:57.320 --> 0:06:01.120 if aj Terrell from Clem's and would have been there 0:06:01.480 --> 0:06:04.680 he was picked right before, that would have been interesting 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:07.560 because I from what I hear, their grades were very similar. 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:10.360 And this is we're talking about a pretty big need 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:14.120 at receiver in an extremely big need at corner. So 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:16.040 at the end of the day, if if it's close, 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:19.360 I think Tarrell might have been the pick. I don't 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:21.880 think it was as close for Chason, obviously, and so 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:25.800 therefore you know, they take the CD Lamb. But um, 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:28.360 I just think you had to take the best guy there, 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:30.080 and I don't have a problem with it, but it 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:32.679 would have been interesting if a cornerback that they really 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:34.880 liked would have been sitting there because that they might 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:38.400 have had a different pick here. So yeah, don't I 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:40.680 don't know him, Nick, Man, I see I see it 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:42.720 the other way man, I've known knowing Jerry. He likes 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:45.080 a big splash, right, so j and Jerry wants to 0:06:45.080 --> 0:06:47.480 score some points. Man, it's all about them cowboys. So 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:49.440 he wants to make sure that those guys are getting 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:53.200 some tds and that they're fulfilling their obligations on that offense. 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:55.039 And if you can score enough points, man, your defense 0:06:55.120 --> 0:07:04.520 just has to be so so fair. So yeah, go ahead, Shannon, No, 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:09.039 go ahead, Rup, Well, I'm with I'm with these guys. 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:12.120 I mean, I think they they filled they need ultimately. 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:14.800 I think if they had drafted a quarterback at seventeen 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:18.320 that was their six rated player, I think everybody would 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:20.360 have scratched their heads because that guy can't come in 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:22.800 and play for you, you know, because Dack's gonna be 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:26.640 Dack's your starter. He's not signed right now. He's either 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:28.600 going to play on the franchise tag, but most likely 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:32.040 he's gonna be a long term deal. Um, they they 0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:34.760 got a starter last night, basically. I mean when you 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:37.360 look at the depth chart last year, you know Raynall 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:39.480 Cobb was listed on their official depth chart as a 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:42.520 starter because you know, you guys know when they're playing 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:45.360 Nickel and eleven personnel a lot of the time and 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:49.080 so you know, sixty five sixty six percent of the time. So, um, 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:52.240 they got a starter. But it's the other way too. 0:07:52.280 --> 0:07:53.840 They need to they need to get a starter up 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:56.440 potentially on defense as well tonight, whether it's at the 0:07:56.480 --> 0:08:00.520 corner or pass rusher or both. Yeah. I think the 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:03.480 thing that, once I've thought about it, I was hoping 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:06.360 they would go defense. But I'm with you, guys, the 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:09.160 talent falls to you there. I think you have to 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:13.360 take that guy, especially if they had a sixth grade 0:08:13.360 --> 0:08:16.240 on this guy, he falls the seventeen. And then just 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:19.120 to see what Mike McCarthy is going to be able 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:21.840 to do with him. Kellen Moore, you know, from everything 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:24.320 I've read about this guy, he can play slot, he 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:28.160 can move outside, just seeing how they're gonna use him, 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:31.120 how they're gonna, you know, hopefully put him in motion 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:34.439 and get him in some mismatches. He can go inside outside, 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:37.680 just seeing, you know, from an offensive standpoint, offensive scheme, 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:40.800 how they use him, how they're gonna you know, how 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:42.880 are they gonna use Tony Pollard, How are they gonna 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:47.400 stretch defenses? Just with these weapons now that you have 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:52.680 on offense, that's the most exciting thing to me is 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:58.120 you've got possibly the best wide receiver corps in the league. 0:08:58.120 --> 0:09:02.240 Now you've got, you know, a top three, maybe top two, 0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:05.559 top one running back. You've got one of the best 0:09:05.600 --> 0:09:08.160 backup running backs in the league. We got Blake Jarwin. 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:11.760 Now that's I think his potential is. We haven't even 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:13.560 seen what he can do because you've seen him on 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:17.440 such a limited basis. I'm just super excited to see 0:09:17.480 --> 0:09:20.240 what they can do from an offensive standpoint now, and 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:22.960 you know, is this gonna be the type of thing 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:26.080 where it's, hey, we're building obviously, like you said, Rob, 0:09:26.120 --> 0:09:28.240 I think they got to go after defense, you know, 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:30.920 these next rounds of the draft. But is this gonna 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:33.800 this season gonna be a situation where it's like, hey, 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:36.800 catch us, We're gonna put up thirty five every game. 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:44.440 See if you can outscore us? Well, I mean, yeah, 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:47.679 that's probably what the plan is is trying to um, 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:51.280 you know, keep stacking up, you know, a great offense 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:54.160 like this and finding mispatches that that's that's the key. 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:58.640 With Jarwin and now with Ceedee Lamb. You know, you 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:01.679 can see a lot of you know, uh personnel sets 0:10:01.679 --> 0:10:03.880 for you know, you have the four wide Jarwin's one 0:10:03.920 --> 0:10:05.920 of them. And then oh, by the way, you have 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:08.880 the best running back at the NFL. And in my opinion, 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:11.560 I guess with Zeke um and so if you could 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:14.960 spread them out and run Zeke Man, that's that's definitely 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:19.320 a dangerous offense there. Yeah, I agree with you. I 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:22.600 think that they're taking an approach of like a Kansas City, right. 0:10:22.679 --> 0:10:24.959 We see, everybody saw what Kansas City did last year 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:27.600 and they're you know, they're they're spreading it out. Everybody's 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:29.840 touching the ball. Everybody who who's on the field can 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:32.280 make a play. So as a defense, you're in no 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:34.800 man's land, right and there's there is no right decision, 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:36.679 And I think that's the position that the Cowboys are 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:39.000 in now. On offense, having fulfilled all these I mean, 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:41.080 you have three whiteouts that can all take it to 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:43.000 the house. You have a tight end who's up and coming, 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:45.080 who has that gold juice as well, and then like 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:46.640 you mentioned, you just happen to have a guy at 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:48.720 the number four and the number twenty one, and you 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:51.440 know in the backfield that can to tote the rock 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:54.199 and throw the rock. So they are a complete problem 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:56.480 on offense and then on defense, like I touched on 0:10:56.480 --> 0:10:59.600 the Talking Cowboys, their front seven is not bad. There. 0:10:59.679 --> 0:11:02.040 First seven is actually pretty dog gone good. They need 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:04.360 one or two more guys on that front seven, and 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:07.160 they don't have to do that much in the secondary. Right, 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:09.480 that front seven is going to control and control the 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:11.880 temple of the game. We're in the NFC East. In 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:13.720 the NFC East, they like to run the ball. So 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:15.960 if they're taking time off the clock on that side 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:17.960 of the ball, and we're scoring fast. At the end 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:23.160 of the day, Cowboys getting victories. Yeah, and what Nick 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:25.720 said a minute ago about, you know, taking a linebacker 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:27.600 off the field because you can spread them out, that's 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:30.480 gonna help Zeke a lot. But I'm with you, Isaiah. 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:33.199 They've done some nice things on defense in the off season. 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:36.200 There's just there are there are some question marks obviously, 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:39.760 not only with with Randy Gregory and Alvin Smith not 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:43.360 reinstated yet, assuming they can get if they can get reinstated, 0:11:43.400 --> 0:11:46.559 I mean, obviously they played football in a long time. 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:51.880 So if you know that secondary, I can't ever have 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:56.640 but George lewis getting this year and be a good thing. 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:01.080 But you know you're also looking last this season two 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:04.440 twenty twenty one. You know most of your entire secondary 0:12:04.520 --> 0:12:11.160 could be up for free agency. So so what do 0:12:11.280 --> 0:12:14.200 we Nick and Isaiah jump in here. I've you know, 0:12:14.640 --> 0:12:17.959 I know that CD's a good receiver. I know that 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:20.840 you know we got a heck of a value where 0:12:20.880 --> 0:12:23.360 we got him at But what exactly what kind of 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:25.640 receiver is he? Is he a physical guy? Is he 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:27.920 more of a finesse guy. I've heard people compare him 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:31.600 to a you know, a young DeAndre Hopkins. What kind 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:33.400 of guy are we getting when we when we see 0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:36.800 this guy on the field this year. I'll let the 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:43.400 former receiver into that. I like the kid because he's 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:46.040 he's range you, right, and he's he's he has multiple 0:12:46.120 --> 0:12:48.240 options that that he can that he can provide for you. Right. 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:50.360 He's he's physical. Right, we all know how he is 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:51.839 once he gets the ball in his hands, right, his 0:12:52.080 --> 0:12:54.800 his jack yardage is his second to none. Right, He's 0:12:54.840 --> 0:12:57.240 physical at the point of attack. He grabs a ball, 0:12:57.240 --> 0:12:58.760 he plecks the ball off the air, and he's gonna 0:12:58.760 --> 0:13:01.240 go make a play. I think his ability that because 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:03.040 of his height. Um, I think they'll put a little 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:04.560 bit more weight on him, but not too much. Right. 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:07.800 But we're six one six two across across the receiving corps, 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:09.720 So the ability to be able to move guys in 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:13.040 and out are absolutely you know, their their end list. 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:14.960 But I like the fact that he's going to create 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:16.560 a matchup problem. You think about the people that are 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:19.400 going to be covering him. It's gonna be your either 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:22.840 your third best corner, right or or your second, your 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:25.280 second safety. Right. So the guys that are gonna be 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:28.079 matching up against him. They're not going to necessarily be 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:30.760 the most fulfilled guys that that you know, in terms 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:32.920 of being able to handle him. Um. And then, by 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:34.800 the way, if you do focus too much attention on him, 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:38.080 you have weapons at every other position. So I think 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:40.520 it's a great pig. I like him, I like his ability, 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:44.080 and I think he's gonna do a great job for us. 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:48.080 This reminds me. Go ahead, Shan No, I was just 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:49.680 I was gonna talk a little bit about the draft, 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:51.319 but go ahead, I want to hear your thoughts on him. Well, 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:53.200 I just want to say this reminds me a little 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:55.280 bit of what Atlanta was trying to do a few 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:59.000 years ago. They had Julio Jones, they had Muhammed Sanu 0:13:59.320 --> 0:14:02.240 with that consider it would be similar to Cooper and 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:05.360 Gallup at the time. And then they picked Ridley because 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:07.480 he was there and he was you know, he could 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:09.920 help them, and they wanted to pair that with DeVante 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:12.240 Freeman at running back and they had a really great offense. 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:14.880 But things can change quickly in this league. I don't 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:17.480 believe that that Freeman or so do or even with 0:14:17.600 --> 0:14:20.680 the team right now, So you know it changes, but 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:23.960 it's still is very similar concept of you know, you 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:26.880 have a good tight end. You've got three dynamic receivers 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:29.960 and a back which I don't see anybody being as 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:33.400 good as Zeke. So uh like we keep saying, keep, 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:36.000 you know, keep trying to stack on offense, try to 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:39.040 outscore everyone, and hang on for dear life on defense. 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:43.760 How how different Rob, this is, I guess for you 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:49.800 and Nick, normally this week, right now, yesterday, tomorrow, we 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:52.840 would all be in the building. We would you know, 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:56.120 be running back and forth all over the building, all 0:14:56.200 --> 0:14:59.640 kind of there together. And the weeks leading up to 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:01.600 the dre raff you're able to be in the building 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:03.960 and talk to guys. We're able to talk to, you know, 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:07.360 some of the scouting department, some of the football ops guys, 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:09.640 and we're able to kind of get a feel for 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:13.120 what's going on, kind of what they're thinking, what direction 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:16.640 they may be going in. And this year, obviously, circumstances 0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:19.360 are totally different. They weren't even in the same rooms 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:23.400 conducting all their their meetings, virtually, all their interviews virtually 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:26.520 and everything. Talk a little bit about how it was 0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:29.600 different this year for you guys covering the draft. I 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:33.000 know we were, you know, on WebEx calls last night 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:35.960 talking about you know, our teams trying to work together 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:37.720 to make sure we had everything going out. But just 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:41.000 leading up to the draft, how how different was it? 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:43.000 Were there things that were better, were there things that 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:45.560 were worse? Just what was your experience this year with 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:50.000 the first round? Well, you said it, I mean logistically, 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:53.680 we've got challenges, just like the Cowboys front office does. 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:57.840 And you know, we had our we had our video chats, 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:02.320 and then we had our our messaging chats. Like there 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:04.200 were a couple of times I didn't know where to 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:06.640 go to communicate because we were trying to open up 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:08.240 a lot of lines of communication with each other. I'll 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:10.960 tell you what, for me, it was a nice break 0:16:11.520 --> 0:16:13.240 just to get out of my own head with what's 0:16:13.240 --> 0:16:15.760 going on in the real world and being isolated. Just 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:19.560 being back trying to communicate and covering something with you 0:16:19.600 --> 0:16:22.320 guys again was really really cool. And I got the 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:24.560 same feeling from Stephen Jones when he talked about it 0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:27.440 in the free the post press conference last night. Like 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:32.680 everybody in the front office, the scouts, the player personnel, guys, 0:16:33.160 --> 0:16:36.000 the Joneses have all just kind of embraced the situation 0:16:36.040 --> 0:16:37.760 they're in and all thirty two teams are in it. 0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:39.880 And he actually said a lot of what they've done 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:43.200 in terms of their scheduling has benefited them, and maybe 0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:45.440 there's ways when we get back to normal that they 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:47.360 can still carry over some of the things they've done 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:51.440 logistically the last few weeks. And you know, I'll say, 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:54.640 on top of that, Shannon, I feel like communication has 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:58.040 been pretty good. You know, we were able to still 0:16:58.080 --> 0:17:00.840 talk to some people this morning, got a decent idea 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:02.680 what they might do today. We can talk about some 0:17:02.760 --> 0:17:05.080 of that later. Um. And then of course, you know 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:07.160 you mentioned me being on the call with Jamie Fox 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:09.840 and DeMarcus Ware and you know, I get a chat 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:11.760 that pops up that says, I think it looks like 0:17:11.760 --> 0:17:14.600 it's gonna be ceedee lamb. And so Jamie Fox is like, 0:17:14.720 --> 0:17:16.399 you think they'll take a receiver, that they won't take 0:17:16.400 --> 0:17:20.280 a receiver, and I'm like, well, Jamie, Um, they might actually, 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:23.080 you know, And so they were able to you know, 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:25.680 you know, it was It's just interesting to do that 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:28.720 and to to kind of still communicate with our team. 0:17:28.800 --> 0:17:31.280 So we're doing I think we're doing the best we can. 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:34.160 I think we're doing a pretty good job. Yeah, it's 0:17:34.200 --> 0:17:37.920 definitely definitely been different. Um And you know, I've read 0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:41.560 a couple of things today that the draft experience overall 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:46.320 from a viewership standpoint, was was better than it is 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:49.360 when you know, everybody's in one place and it's it's 0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:52.440 a big production, because it was more real, it was 0:17:52.520 --> 0:17:55.800 more organic everybody. I think, you know, if you're watching 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:58.080 the Draft, you kind of I think this was one 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:00.880 of those events that we haven't been able to see 0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:03.600 anything with sports for so long that this kind of, 0:18:04.280 --> 0:18:08.040 you know, almost like a galvanizing thing where everybody came 0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:11.680 together from their living rooms, and you know, you didn't 0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:14.879 feel like you weren't part of it because the coaches 0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:17.040 were in their living rooms, the owners were in their 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:19.359 living rooms, the gyms were so you almost felt like 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:22.240 you were, you know, right there beside him going through 0:18:22.240 --> 0:18:24.359 this whole thing. So I think it was it was 0:18:24.560 --> 0:18:26.840 definitely different, but I think it was a cool kind 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:29.400 of different. And I think, just like Steven said, there's 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:32.480 some things that I think we learned as a as 0:18:32.480 --> 0:18:35.240 a team as well that we'll do different going forward. 0:18:35.280 --> 0:18:38.960 So I just kind of wanted to get yas y'all's feelings. Isaiah, 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:42.280 from your standpoint watching it on TV and everything, how 0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:44.719 did you How is it different for you as as 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:48.159 a kind of a fan watching it, man, Yeah, stepping 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:50.119 back away from being a player and now seeing it 0:18:50.160 --> 0:18:52.720 from this perspective. I thought it was really cool. I thought, 0:18:52.760 --> 0:18:56.800 as from a from a parents perspective, seeing how human 0:18:57.440 --> 0:18:59.280 a lot of these general managers, a lot of these 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:01.840 coaches are. I think that is really going to make 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:04.200 a connection between the fans and uh, you know, in 0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:06.399 the front office, and the fans and the players. I 0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:11.080 think that there's always this this huge separation between athletes 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:14.240 and the fans, right, and I think that yesterday close 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:17.520 that gap. I really do. I think you're really humanized everybody, 0:19:17.520 --> 0:19:19.280 and it really brought everybody closer to say, hey, look, 0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:21.920 yes they have kids too, Yes they were very much involved. 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:25.440 Yes they also interrupt, Yes they also have dogs. Everybody 0:19:25.440 --> 0:19:28.920 doesn't have a mansion with a fire pit in the backyard, 0:19:30.040 --> 0:19:32.119 nor does everybody have a you know, a tuitor in 0:19:32.160 --> 0:19:34.800 fifty million dollars yacht. But you know, for the most part, 0:19:35.200 --> 0:19:38.320 everybody was living pretty seemingly normalized and their basements or 0:19:38.359 --> 0:19:40.960 in their offices or whatever. So I think that that 0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:43.760 alone is going to bring, you know, bring the fans 0:19:43.760 --> 0:19:46.280 even closer to the game. Yeah. I would like to 0:19:46.359 --> 0:19:49.879 tuck your first house in Amazon if I could. That 0:19:50.000 --> 0:19:52.680 was That's a nice path he's got out there in Amazone. Yeah, 0:19:52.680 --> 0:19:56.879 I love the magazine cover. Let's take our let's take 0:19:56.920 --> 0:19:59.200 our first break. When we come back, Isaiah, I want 0:19:59.200 --> 0:20:03.120 to get kind of some feedback from you. Now he's 0:20:03.160 --> 0:20:07.359 been drafted. What happens now, the mentality and then just 0:20:07.400 --> 0:20:11.120 the physical stuff about having to move to a big 0:20:11.160 --> 0:20:14.080 city and integrate with the team, and kind of what 0:20:14.440 --> 0:20:17.960 those first few weeks are like coming into a new program, 0:20:18.000 --> 0:20:20.320 coming in you know, you were the big dog in 0:20:20.359 --> 0:20:22.639 a small pond. Now all of a sudden, you're dropped 0:20:22.640 --> 0:20:25.080 in this huge pond and you're just a guy until 0:20:25.119 --> 0:20:27.439 you proved yourself. So let's get into that. Let's get 0:20:27.480 --> 0:20:30.320 into what are they gonna do the next two days? 0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:32.960 What direction do we think is it all defense from 0:20:32.960 --> 0:20:36.280 here on out? There were some rumblings before the draft 0:20:36.320 --> 0:20:39.320 started that they may be interested in a quarterback somewhere 0:20:39.560 --> 0:20:42.480 down the road several you know, several rounds in. Do 0:20:42.560 --> 0:20:44.600