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Speaker 2: The Clark County Marriage Licensed Bureau in Las Vegas is

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Speaker 2: about as far from the glitz and glamour of the

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Speaker 2: Strip as you can get. But for one night in

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Speaker 2: nineteen sixty five, this blanned government office in the County

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Speaker 2: Courthouse was home to one of the wildest shows in town.

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Speaker 2: On Thursday August twenty sixth, nineteen sixty five, hundreds of

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Speaker 2: young couples from all over the United States flocked to

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Speaker 1: Why the rush?

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Speaker 2: Just hours earlier, President's Lyndon Johnson issued a surprise executive order.

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Speaker 2: With the war escalating in Vietnam, the army needed more soldiers.

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Speaker 2: Lbj's executive order said that as of midnight, you would

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Speaker 2: no longer get special treatment for the Vietnam draft by

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Speaker 2: getting married. The surprise announcement set off a panic. Getting

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Speaker 2: drafted in nineteen sixty five was seen as a straight

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Speaker 2: shot to the front lines in Vietnam, but there was

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Speaker 2: still hope. If you could somehow get married before midnight

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Speaker 2: local time, you might be in the clear. The problem

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Speaker 2: was finding a place to get hitched on such short notice.

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Speaker 2: Nearly every state required blood tests or a waiting period

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Speaker 2: between getting a marriage license and actually getting married. Every state,

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Speaker 2: that is, except Nevada. At nine thirty pm on August

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Speaker 2: twenty sixth, Justice of the Piece James Brennan, returned from

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Speaker 2: conducting a late night wedding at the Dunes Hotel to

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Speaker 2: find a mob scene at the Clark County Courthouse. There

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Speaker 2: was a long, snaking line of fifty couples waiting to

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Speaker 2: get married, and the crowd was growing fast. Most of

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Speaker 2: the brides and grooms to be came from California, but

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Speaker 2: some couples had flown all the way from New Jersey,

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Speaker 2: New York, and Pennsylvania, frazzled parents in tow. Judge Brennan

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Speaker 2: had never seen anything like it. On a normal Thursday,

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Speaker 2: his office might issue eight or ten marriage licenses, But

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Speaker 2: over the next couple of hours, in what can only

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Speaker 2: be described as quote an orgy of officiating, Brennan and

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Speaker 2: his harried clerks issued more than one hundred and fifty licenses.

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Speaker 2: The judge personally presided over sixty seven weddings in one

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Speaker 2: hour and fifty minutes, which must be some kind of record.

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Speaker 2: With minutes to go before midnight and ordered his secretary

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Speaker 2: exchanged before or after twelve. As far as the state

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Speaker 2: of Nevada was concerned, everyone got married on August twenty sixth.

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Speaker 2: The Vietnam Era was an incredibly stressful time to be

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Speaker 2: young in America. If you were nineteen or twenty, it

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Speaker 2: didn't matter what your plans were, getting a job, starting

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Speaker 2: a family. A draft board could send you halfway around

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Speaker 2: the world to fight, and you might never come home.

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Speaker 2: It was stressful for young women too. Imagine you're an

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Speaker 2: me tonight, or they're going to send me to Vietnam.

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Speaker 2: What would you do? Would you set aside your own

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Speaker 2: plans and dreams to protect someone you love. Welcome back

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Speaker 2: to Very Special Episodes and iHeart original podcast. I'm your host,

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Speaker 2: Danish Schwartz, and this is Night of one thousand Weddings.

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Speaker 3: We are back. She's Danish Schwartz, He's Aaron Burnett, I'm

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Speaker 3: Jason English. This is the very Special Episodes podcast. How's

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Speaker 3: everybody doing doing well? How about y'all?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing good.

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Speaker 2: Have we spoken since we had a new addition to

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Speaker 2: the very special episodes Family.

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Speaker 1: No, we have not.

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Speaker 3: Please introduce. Introduce.

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Speaker 2: There's a little baby. There's an Arthur Carmel. So if

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Speaker 2: you hear any crying in the background, it's the co

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Speaker 2: participate in this banter.

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Speaker 3: We're going to write some baby vo parts into some

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Speaker 3: of these episodes. Put us in touch with his reps.

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Speaker 2: We do live in La so he does already have

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Speaker 2: an agent, manager, talent agent, modeling wrap.

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Speaker 1: By the way, great name, great name for his future career.

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Speaker 2: Artie Karns.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I love it.

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Speaker 3: Have you gotten all this social media handles and everything

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Speaker 3: that you need to reserve?

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Speaker 2: I think I did. I couldn't get the Gmail, but

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Speaker 2: I got something close. Isn't that crazy that that's how

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Speaker 1: That's true.

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Speaker 3: I got the Gmail. I'm squatting on the Gmail to

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Speaker 3: the thirteenth birthday President.

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Speaker 1: You are a man now.

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Speaker 3: Perfect. Speaking of La, Saren and I just met up

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Speaker 3: for a couple of days in La. We made a

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Speaker 1: Great crowd.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully they'll have us back. Hopefully we picked up some

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I really liked that crowd. I was going down there.

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Speaker 4: I used to live in Venice. It was a nice homecoming,

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Speaker 3: Speaking of big cross country trips, we've got a few

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Speaker 2: Oh God, a frantic road trip to save someone's life.

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Speaker 2: Pretty much, most of us have no idea what it's

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Speaker 2: like to live under the shadow of the draft, that

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Speaker 2: For the first few years of the conflict in Vietnam,

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Speaker 2: In response, Congress passed the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, authorizing

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Speaker 5: The whole purpose of the deferments in general, right, is

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Speaker 5: to create a system of selective service. That's what selective

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Speaker 2: That's Amy Ruttenberg, a historian who researches and writes about

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Speaker 5: There are all kinds of stories that circulated about people

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Speaker 2: According to one study, more than sixty percent of draft

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Speaker 2: That's what happened in nineteen sixty five. Two years earlier,

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Speaker 5: Marriage rates were seven point five percent hire for twenty

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Speaker 2: With the marriage deferment. If a young person really didn't

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Speaker 2: Candy and George had only been dating for three months.

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Speaker 2: So as it happens, Candy wasn't the only young woman

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Speaker 8: After the announcement, people realized the old only place in

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Speaker 2: As if Claudia's decision wasn't hard enough now her job

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Speaker 2: George got to the airport, it was full of other

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Speaker 7: So that was a big deal.

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Speaker 2: For Amy Ruttenberg, the historian, hearing about these young couples

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Speaker 5: Well, it certainly shows how serious these couples were about

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Speaker 2: When we asked Candy if she had any second thoughts

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Speaker 6: There wasn't any hesitation. It was just like, well, this

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Speaker 8: I think she was torn between She really, you know,

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Speaker 2: As Claudia, David, Candy, and George set off for Vegas,

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Speaker 2: they had two burning questions racing through their minds. One,

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Speaker 2: completely crazy. On August twenty sixth, nineteen sixty five, Larry

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Speaker 8: I remember him describing he goes there were women with

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Speaker 2: There was a tall young man who'd flown all the

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Speaker 2: One twenty year old kid told Larry quote, sure, I'm

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Speaker 2: When Larry tried to interview one father, he was shouted away.

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Speaker 8: Did have their opinions of what was right and what

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Speaker 2: One of the Clark County police officers turned to larry

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Speaker 1: To open again.

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Speaker 6: I think it's just that we were all nervous that

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Speaker 2: Candy and George didn't know it, but they were some

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Speaker 2: She doesn't remember a word. Before she knew it, she

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Speaker 6: Well, it was just not my intention to have a wedding,

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Speaker 6: You know, if it happened one day, it would happen,

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Speaker 6: We were just in a daze.

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Speaker 2: forth in her mind, should she do this? Was she crazy?

440
00:25:08,482 --> 00:25:11,682
Speaker 2: She decided to let fate decide. If we don't make

441
00:25:11,722 --> 00:25:14,922
Speaker 2: it by twelve, that design that you wasn't supposed to

442
00:25:14,962 --> 00:25:18,802
Speaker 2: marry David. They pulled up to the courthouse at exactly

443
00:25:18,882 --> 00:25:20,122
Speaker 2: the stroke of midnight.

444
00:25:20,682 --> 00:25:21,922
Speaker 8: They were like, we're not going to make it. We're

445
00:25:21,922 --> 00:25:24,562
Speaker 8: not going to make it, and the car pulls up,

446
00:25:24,602 --> 00:25:26,402
Speaker 8: they get out of the car, they run, and as

447
00:25:26,482 --> 00:25:28,962
Speaker 8: they're going to the entrance to the courthouse, people are

448
00:25:29,042 --> 00:25:32,282
Speaker 8: leaving the courthouse in tears and they're crying and they're upset,

449
00:25:32,482 --> 00:25:34,282
Speaker 8: and they say, what's going on, and they say, we

450
00:25:34,322 --> 00:25:36,562
Speaker 8: didn't make it in time. It's too late. We didn't

451
00:25:36,562 --> 00:25:39,642
Speaker 8: make it in time. And Claudia is like, well, that's it,

452
00:25:39,682 --> 00:25:41,562
Speaker 8: we didn't make it in time, and David says, no,

453
00:25:42,282 --> 00:25:44,322
Speaker 8: if they're going to tell me. No, They're going to

454
00:25:44,362 --> 00:25:45,242
Speaker 8: tell me to my face.

455
00:25:45,922 --> 00:25:49,002
Speaker 2: Ashton admits that this next part sounds like a scene

456
00:25:49,042 --> 00:25:52,282
Speaker 2: from a cheesy movie, but she swears that it's true.

457
00:25:52,762 --> 00:25:55,602
Speaker 8: So they get to the door and the woman is

458
00:25:55,642 --> 00:25:59,562
Speaker 8: literally putting like the padlock, like locking the door, and

459
00:25:59,682 --> 00:26:01,922
Speaker 8: he tells her, I don't want to go to Vietnam.

460
00:26:01,962 --> 00:26:03,642
Speaker 8: I don't want to die like I need to get

461
00:26:03,682 --> 00:26:07,322
Speaker 8: married tonight, and she just took pity on him and

462
00:26:07,602 --> 00:26:09,362
Speaker 8: let the two of them in, and they were the

463
00:26:09,442 --> 00:26:12,322
Speaker 8: last people to be married in Clark County that night.

464
00:26:14,042 --> 00:26:17,922
Speaker 2: Judge Brennan didn't leave the Clark County Courthouse until after

465
00:26:18,082 --> 00:26:21,562
Speaker 2: two am. Too wired to sleep, he went for a

466
00:26:21,602 --> 00:26:25,642
Speaker 2: beer at the back bar of the Horseshoe Casino. George's

467
00:26:25,722 --> 00:26:29,362
Speaker 2: mom booked Candy and him a room at the Sands Hotel,

468
00:26:29,802 --> 00:26:32,522
Speaker 2: but Claudia and David didn't have anywhere to go after

469
00:26:32,562 --> 00:26:36,362
Speaker 2: their midnight wedding. They wandered into an old school casino

470
00:26:36,482 --> 00:26:40,802
Speaker 2: called Diamond Jim's Nevada Club, and Claudia dropped a nickel

471
00:26:40,842 --> 00:26:43,922
Speaker 2: into one of the slot machines. Ding ding went the

472
00:26:44,002 --> 00:26:48,082
Speaker 2: lights and out poured twenty dollars in change enough to

473
00:26:48,162 --> 00:26:52,682
Speaker 2: afford a low budget honeymoon at the Hacienda Hotel and Casino.

474
00:26:53,242 --> 00:26:55,522
Speaker 8: They got married and they stayed in a hotel that night,

475
00:26:55,562 --> 00:26:58,602
Speaker 8: But it was also kind of a very somber feeling

476
00:26:58,722 --> 00:27:01,322
Speaker 8: of what did we just do? I imagine it's like that

477
00:27:01,442 --> 00:27:03,482
Speaker 8: moment in the Graduate where they're sitting in the back

478
00:27:03,522 --> 00:27:06,002
Speaker 8: of the bus and they have to realize, oh shit,

479
00:27:06,962 --> 00:27:07,962
Speaker 8: oh what just happened.

480
00:27:08,642 --> 00:27:11,602
Speaker 2: Less than twelve hours ago, Claudia and David were just

481
00:27:11,802 --> 00:27:15,002
Speaker 2: two kids living in Anaheim, with no real plans for

482
00:27:15,042 --> 00:27:18,482
Speaker 2: the future. Now they were two married people with no

483
00:27:18,602 --> 00:27:21,802
Speaker 2: real plans for the future. All they knew was that

484
00:27:21,922 --> 00:27:27,122
Speaker 2: David was safe for now, at least. We read a

485
00:27:27,162 --> 00:27:31,242
Speaker 2: lot of old newspaper articles while researching the craziness of

486
00:27:31,322 --> 00:27:36,242
Speaker 2: August twenty sixth, nineteen sixty five. There was Larry Fugate's

487
00:27:36,282 --> 00:27:39,882
Speaker 2: story for the Las Vegas Review Journal, of course, but

488
00:27:40,002 --> 00:27:43,522
Speaker 2: every major newspaper in the country also ran an article

489
00:27:43,842 --> 00:27:48,642
Speaker 2: about the midnight marriage madness. Of all the wedding stories

490
00:27:48,682 --> 00:27:52,722
Speaker 2: we read, though one stood out as the most improbable

491
00:27:53,082 --> 00:27:57,282
Speaker 2: and perhaps the most magical of them all. The details

492
00:27:57,322 --> 00:28:02,682
Speaker 2: were first reported in the Saint Joseph Gazette, in Saint Joseph, Missouri.

493
00:28:03,282 --> 00:28:05,802
Speaker 2: But to tell it, we need to take you back

494
00:28:05,842 --> 00:28:10,642
Speaker 2: to that fateful night when everything changed for one young couple.

495
00:28:20,322 --> 00:28:24,242
Speaker 2: Dan and Nancy Wilson started dating in nineteen sixty two.

496
00:28:24,722 --> 00:28:28,642
Speaker 2: Dan was a senior at Benton High School in Saint Joseph, Missouri,

497
00:28:28,842 --> 00:28:30,242
Speaker 2: and Nancy was a freshman.

498
00:28:30,882 --> 00:28:34,362
Speaker 7: Well, actually, we've known each other almost all of our life.

499
00:28:34,802 --> 00:28:36,682
Speaker 7: We grew up only about a block and a half

500
00:28:36,682 --> 00:28:40,642
Speaker 7: away from each other, and so there was a few

501
00:28:40,722 --> 00:28:43,242
Speaker 7: years of difference between us in age, so I was

502
00:28:43,282 --> 00:28:46,162
Speaker 7: always ahead of her, And it wasn't until the teenage

503
00:28:46,242 --> 00:28:49,282
Speaker 7: years that I finally started noticing this pretty little girl

504
00:28:49,322 --> 00:28:52,202
Speaker 7: down the street and she caught my eye, and thanks

505
00:28:52,282 --> 00:28:53,202
Speaker 7: kind of took off from there.

506
00:28:54,202 --> 00:28:58,122
Speaker 9: Well, we'd kind of been noticing each other in school,

507
00:28:58,482 --> 00:29:01,402
Speaker 9: and then during the summer spent a little time over

508
00:29:01,442 --> 00:29:03,922
Speaker 9: the swimming pool and happened to notice him there, And

509
00:29:04,282 --> 00:29:07,722
Speaker 9: one weekend we went to a county fair and he

510
00:29:07,802 --> 00:29:09,522
Speaker 9: asked me if I would like to have a ride

511
00:29:09,562 --> 00:29:13,002
Speaker 9: home with him, and been together pretty much ever since then.

512
00:29:14,322 --> 00:29:18,202
Speaker 2: By the time Nancy graduated, Dan already had the rest

513
00:29:18,202 --> 00:29:21,402
Speaker 2: of their lives planned out. They'd own a funeral home.

514
00:29:21,562 --> 00:29:26,322
Speaker 2: Of course, let me explain. After high school, Dan attended

515
00:29:26,322 --> 00:29:28,922
Speaker 2: community college and got a part time job at a

516
00:29:28,922 --> 00:29:30,922
Speaker 2: local funeral home, and.

517
00:29:30,882 --> 00:29:33,282
Speaker 7: The gentleman that owned the funeral home came to him

518
00:29:33,322 --> 00:29:35,722
Speaker 7: and said, you know, I got this funeral home, but

519
00:29:35,762 --> 00:29:37,602
Speaker 7: I have three daughters and none of them have any

520
00:29:37,602 --> 00:29:40,242
Speaker 7: interest in the business. So for the right young man,

521
00:29:40,282 --> 00:29:42,042
Speaker 7: if you want to get your license, come back and

522
00:29:42,082 --> 00:29:43,602
Speaker 7: work here at the funeral home. There could be a

523
00:29:43,602 --> 00:29:44,282
Speaker 7: bright future.

524
00:29:45,122 --> 00:29:48,162
Speaker 2: Dan was all in, but to take over the business,

525
00:29:48,242 --> 00:29:51,202
Speaker 2: he had to attend mortuary school first and get his

526
00:29:51,362 --> 00:29:57,442
Speaker 2: mortuary license. Dan and Nancy were deeply committed to each other,

527
00:29:57,962 --> 00:30:02,282
Speaker 2: but to realize their bright future as funeral home owners,

528
00:30:02,642 --> 00:30:06,722
Speaker 2: they'd have to spend a whole year apart mortuary school

529
00:30:07,162 --> 00:30:11,802
Speaker 2: in Dallas, Texas, five hundred and fifty miles from Saint Joseph.

530
00:30:12,602 --> 00:30:15,722
Speaker 2: Being a part would be hard for the young lovebirds,

531
00:30:16,042 --> 00:30:19,882
Speaker 2: but during Christmas break in nineteen sixty four, Dan made

532
00:30:19,882 --> 00:30:23,762
Speaker 2: it official. He asked Nancy to marry him, and she

533
00:30:23,922 --> 00:30:28,082
Speaker 2: said yes, of course. They set a date for September fourth,

534
00:30:28,242 --> 00:30:32,602
Speaker 2: nineteen sixty five, exactly a week after Dan would graduate.

535
00:30:33,162 --> 00:30:37,402
Speaker 2: Everything was falling into place. Dan went back to Dallas.

536
00:30:37,682 --> 00:30:41,042
Speaker 2: Nancy stayed in Saint Joseph, and they dreamed of their

537
00:30:41,082 --> 00:30:42,202
Speaker 2: September wedding.

538
00:30:42,602 --> 00:30:44,682
Speaker 7: The plan was to get married at our church whenever

539
00:30:44,762 --> 00:30:48,282
Speaker 7: got back home. Invitations were out, just immediate family, her

540
00:30:48,322 --> 00:30:52,002
Speaker 7: family and mine, just a small we'll get together, and

541
00:30:52,242 --> 00:30:55,282
Speaker 7: everything was all set out and we were looking forward

542
00:30:55,322 --> 00:30:55,642
Speaker 7: to that.

543
00:30:56,442 --> 00:30:59,082
Speaker 2: Dan says he didn't think much about the draft at

544
00:30:59,082 --> 00:31:01,842
Speaker 2: the time. He knew kids from high school who were

545
00:31:01,882 --> 00:31:05,682
Speaker 2: serving in Vietnam, and he didn't have anything against the war.

546
00:31:06,242 --> 00:31:09,082
Speaker 2: In fact, Dan says he would have been proud to

547
00:31:09,202 --> 00:31:12,202
Speaker 2: serve his country, but all he was thinking about in

548
00:31:12,322 --> 00:31:17,122
Speaker 2: nineteen sixty five was finishing school, getting that mortuary license,

549
00:31:17,282 --> 00:31:24,122
Speaker 2: and marrying his sweetheart. Then came August twenty sixth LBJ

550
00:31:24,362 --> 00:31:28,162
Speaker 2: signed the executive order saying that after midnight the marriage

551
00:31:28,162 --> 00:31:31,882
Speaker 2: to Ferment was going away. Dan heard the news about

552
00:31:31,882 --> 00:31:35,602
Speaker 2: the rule change around five PM, but he didn't really

553
00:31:35,642 --> 00:31:39,122
Speaker 2: see how it affected him. It wasn't until later that

554
00:31:39,322 --> 00:31:43,562
Speaker 2: night that some of Dan's classmates from Missouri gave him

555
00:31:43,642 --> 00:31:46,962
Speaker 2: something to worry about. If any of them were drafted

556
00:31:47,122 --> 00:31:51,362
Speaker 2: right out of mortuary school, they were up a creek. Apparently,

557
00:31:51,562 --> 00:31:56,762
Speaker 2: the licensing process in Missouri followed a strict timeline. After

558
00:31:56,802 --> 00:32:01,362
Speaker 2: you got your mortuary degree, there was a one year preceptorship,

559
00:32:01,642 --> 00:32:04,602
Speaker 2: and then you took the state boards. If Dan and

560
00:32:04,682 --> 00:32:08,162
Speaker 2: his friends were sent to Vietnam, the process could be

561
00:32:08,242 --> 00:32:11,522
Speaker 2: delayed for years, or they might even have to repeat

562
00:32:11,522 --> 00:32:13,362
Speaker 2: mortuary school when they got back.

563
00:32:13,642 --> 00:32:15,802
Speaker 7: And we thought that was a tremendous waste of time

564
00:32:15,842 --> 00:32:17,682
Speaker 7: and money. And I had already borrowed the mighty to

565
00:32:17,682 --> 00:32:20,042
Speaker 7: go to school to start with the first time. So

566
00:32:20,442 --> 00:32:23,362
Speaker 7: I was on a pretty tight time frame anyway already,

567
00:32:23,722 --> 00:32:26,242
Speaker 7: and we were looking to get married, so I didn't

568
00:32:26,282 --> 00:32:30,202
Speaker 7: need anything that might potentially interrupt me completing my preceptorship,

569
00:32:30,482 --> 00:32:33,322
Speaker 7: passing my state boards, and then getting license. So we're

570
00:32:33,322 --> 00:32:37,322
Speaker 7: having this discussion with my classmates, and I decided that

571
00:32:37,402 --> 00:32:39,882
Speaker 7: this may be an issue here for us in the

572
00:32:39,882 --> 00:32:42,682
Speaker 7: state of Missouri if we don't follow through on a

573
00:32:42,722 --> 00:32:43,282
Speaker 7: time frame.

574
00:32:43,762 --> 00:32:47,482
Speaker 2: What's crazy was that Dan and Nancy were all set

575
00:32:47,522 --> 00:32:50,602
Speaker 2: to get married in a little over a week. They

576
00:32:50,642 --> 00:32:55,202
Speaker 2: even had their marriage license already. The fact that lbj's

577
00:32:55,242 --> 00:32:59,922
Speaker 2: announcement came when it did during the extremely narrow window

578
00:33:00,082 --> 00:33:04,002
Speaker 2: between the end of school and marriage too perfectly legit

579
00:33:04,242 --> 00:33:09,602
Speaker 2: draft deferments was wild. Now Dan and Nancy's entire plan

580
00:33:09,922 --> 00:33:12,682
Speaker 2: was in jeopardy. But what could they do about it.

581
00:33:13,602 --> 00:33:16,282
Speaker 7: One of the guys suggested, well, you know, you guys

582
00:33:16,322 --> 00:33:19,042
Speaker 7: have already got your license and everything. You could go

583
00:33:19,042 --> 00:33:21,522
Speaker 7: ahead and get married over the phone, and then we

584
00:33:21,682 --> 00:33:25,082
Speaker 7: could you school from there and have your church wedding later. Well,

585
00:33:25,122 --> 00:33:27,082
Speaker 7: we all laughed about that and thought it was funny,

586
00:33:27,082 --> 00:33:29,602
Speaker 7: and then we pondered it a little longer.

587
00:33:30,482 --> 00:33:34,842
Speaker 2: Wait a second, could that actually work? Can two people

588
00:33:35,002 --> 00:33:38,482
Speaker 2: really get married over the phone? He needed to talk

589
00:33:38,522 --> 00:33:42,642
Speaker 2: to Nancy. It was now ten thirty pm, ninety minutes

590
00:33:42,722 --> 00:33:47,442
Speaker 2: until midnight. Nancy, it turned out, was at a bridal shower,

591
00:33:48,082 --> 00:33:51,722
Speaker 2: her bridal shower when Dan called in the middle of

592
00:33:51,762 --> 00:33:55,562
Speaker 2: her party, yapping about a telephone wedding. She thought he

593
00:33:55,722 --> 00:34:00,682
Speaker 2: was kidding, But after Dan explained everything, Nancy had no choice.

594
00:34:01,202 --> 00:34:02,442
Speaker 2: She was on board.

595
00:34:03,002 --> 00:34:05,042
Speaker 7: Well, we had to find out first of all if

596
00:34:05,082 --> 00:34:06,922
Speaker 7: it was legal and what could be done about it.

597
00:34:07,002 --> 00:34:11,322
Speaker 7: And eventually we got to a magistrate judge in Saint Joe, Missouri,

598
00:34:11,802 --> 00:34:15,282
Speaker 7: Margaret Young was her name, and she said, yes, it's.

599
00:34:15,162 --> 00:34:18,162
Speaker 2: Legal, but there was a catch.

600
00:34:18,962 --> 00:34:22,082
Speaker 7: You'll have to have the parties together. She said, I'll

601
00:34:22,122 --> 00:34:24,242
Speaker 7: have to be with Nancy and You'll need to be

602
00:34:24,322 --> 00:34:28,562
Speaker 7: hooked up in Dallas with some officient in Dallas. Well,

603
00:34:28,682 --> 00:34:32,922
Speaker 7: I'm thinking, okay, Margaret Young, the judge is on a phone,

604
00:34:33,242 --> 00:34:36,122
Speaker 7: Nancy's on a phone, the minister in Dallas is on

605
00:34:36,162 --> 00:34:38,002
Speaker 7: a phone, and I'm on a phone. Now we got

606
00:34:38,002 --> 00:34:40,482
Speaker 7: a four way conference call. Let's make it happen. And

607
00:34:40,522 --> 00:34:43,162
Speaker 7: so we started moving to that direction. And now we're

608
00:34:43,202 --> 00:34:46,442
Speaker 7: talking about it's getting ten thirty eleven o'clock at nine,

609
00:34:46,882 --> 00:34:52,842
Speaker 7: so sneaking up on that midnight hour. And Margaret Young says, no, no, no, Dan,

610
00:34:53,042 --> 00:34:55,682
Speaker 7: you have to be in the presence of the minister.

611
00:34:56,162 --> 00:34:58,002
Speaker 7: You can't just be on the phone. And I have

612
00:34:58,122 --> 00:34:59,482
Speaker 7: to be in the presence of Nancy.

613
00:35:00,842 --> 00:35:03,882
Speaker 2: So let's get this straight. If Dan and Nancy were

614
00:35:03,922 --> 00:35:06,642
Speaker 2: going to pull this off, if they were really going

615
00:35:06,642 --> 00:35:10,242
Speaker 2: to get married by telephone from different states, Dan had

616
00:35:10,242 --> 00:35:11,842
Speaker 2: to find a minister in Dallas.

617
00:35:11,962 --> 00:35:12,802
Speaker 1: Like now.

618
00:35:14,882 --> 00:35:18,362
Speaker 2: Dan and his friends grabbed the Yellow Pages, flipped to

619
00:35:18,482 --> 00:35:22,922
Speaker 2: the church's section, and started making phone calls. At eleven

620
00:35:23,042 --> 00:35:29,122
Speaker 2: fifteen pm, someone finally picked up doctor G. N. Goldstin,

621
00:35:29,482 --> 00:35:33,402
Speaker 2: Associate pastor of the East Dallas Christian Church was in

622
00:35:33,442 --> 00:35:36,562
Speaker 2: the shower when he fielded Dan's random call.

623
00:35:37,162 --> 00:35:40,522
Speaker 7: I said, here's our situation, here's what we'd like to do,

624
00:35:40,602 --> 00:35:42,522
Speaker 7: and I went through the whole background. I said, we

625
00:35:42,522 --> 00:35:44,882
Speaker 7: have a judge at the other end who says this

626
00:35:45,002 --> 00:35:48,042
Speaker 7: will be legallet but we need an efficient here. I

627
00:35:48,082 --> 00:35:51,922
Speaker 7: explained the story, and he was compassionate and understanding. He said, okay,

628
00:35:51,962 --> 00:35:52,962
Speaker 7: I help you out.

629
00:35:53,362 --> 00:35:56,562
Speaker 2: Dan and his three friends jumped in a car and

630
00:35:56,762 --> 00:35:59,002
Speaker 2: raced to doctor Goldstein's house.

631
00:35:59,402 --> 00:36:02,082
Speaker 7: We had to scurry across Dallas to get to the minister,

632
00:36:02,202 --> 00:36:04,962
Speaker 7: and by this it's now getting late at night, and

633
00:36:05,202 --> 00:36:08,242
Speaker 7: the minister that we were talking to, he was in

634
00:36:08,322 --> 00:36:10,042
Speaker 7: his pajamas when he answered the door.

635
00:36:12,162 --> 00:36:16,322
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, back in Saint Joseph, Nancy's bridal shower was quickly

636
00:36:16,362 --> 00:36:21,082
Speaker 2: being converted into a wedding. The bridesmaids snapped into action.

637
00:36:21,922 --> 00:36:25,082
Speaker 10: One of the girls her parents owned a floor's shop,

638
00:36:26,122 --> 00:36:29,042
Speaker 10: so that's how we were able to get a bouquet

639
00:36:29,082 --> 00:36:32,762
Speaker 10: at the last minute, and they grabbed my dress and

640
00:36:33,482 --> 00:36:37,722
Speaker 10: it's just kind of chaos. They're all changing my clothes

641
00:36:37,762 --> 00:36:42,082
Speaker 10: and making the bouquet, and somehow it all worked out.

642
00:36:43,762 --> 00:36:47,322
Speaker 2: At eleven thirty eight pm, Nancy stood in her parents'

643
00:36:47,402 --> 00:36:51,602
Speaker 2: kitchen in Saint Joseph, wearing her beautiful white wedding dress,

644
00:36:51,882 --> 00:36:55,362
Speaker 2: bouquet in one hand, phone receiver in the other. One

645
00:36:55,402 --> 00:36:59,242
Speaker 2: of Nancy's bridesmaids held up a framed photo of Dan

646
00:36:59,522 --> 00:37:03,482
Speaker 2: so they'd feel a little closer to each other. Magistrate

647
00:37:03,682 --> 00:37:07,322
Speaker 2: Margaret Young was in an upstairs bedroom with Nancy's pa parents,

648
00:37:07,602 --> 00:37:11,922
Speaker 2: officiating from a separate line two states away in Dallas.

649
00:37:12,242 --> 00:37:16,762
Speaker 2: Dan said, I do witnessed as law required by an

650
00:37:16,922 --> 00:37:22,082
Speaker 2: ordained stranger. In pajamas, Dan and Nancy made the midnight

651
00:37:22,122 --> 00:37:26,242
Speaker 2: deadline with a few minutes to spare. As a wedding present.

652
00:37:26,682 --> 00:37:30,802
Speaker 2: Dan's friend Jerry offered to pay doctor Goldstin for the

653
00:37:30,962 --> 00:37:36,162
Speaker 2: long distance charges. It was thirteen dollars. Only when Dan

654
00:37:36,362 --> 00:37:38,962
Speaker 2: hung up the phone did it hit him. He was

655
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Speaker 2: finally married to his favorite girl, but she was five

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty miles away.

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Speaker 7: It was not at all what I had anticipated my

658
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Speaker 7: wedding night was going to be. I'm going home by myself.

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Speaker 7: You know, That's not when it's supposed to be. But

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Speaker 7: the last thing that we said to each other, and

661
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Speaker 7: whenever we finished the phone call was I'll see you

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Speaker 7: in two days, because two days later it was going

663
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Speaker 7: to be graduation and she was coming.

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Speaker 2: To Dallas later, the long distance newlyweds finally shared a

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Speaker 2: first kiss and set off on their life together. As

666
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Speaker 2: it turned out, the whole mortuary school thing was a bust.

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Speaker 2: The older couple who owned the funeral home decided not

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Speaker 2: to retire after all. Dan switched to a marketing career

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Speaker 2: and never looked back. This August, Dan and Nancy Wilson

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Speaker 2: will celebrate their sixtieth wedding anniversary.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it's a long time in it. I've let him

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Speaker 10: live that long.

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Speaker 7: We are both so blessed and that we have each other.

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Speaker 7: And somehow we knew from the very beginning that we

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Speaker 7: were met for each other. It's just just so we've

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Speaker 7: always been together. We don't know any different. We love

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Speaker 7: each other, we cherish each other time together, So it's

678
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Speaker 7: all good. It's all good.

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Speaker 2: By one estimate, twenty thousand couples got married on August

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Speaker 2: twenty sixth, nineteen sixty five. Not all of them ended

681
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Speaker 2: as happily as Dan and Nancy's. Candy and George stayed

682
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Speaker 2: together for five years. They moved to Eugene Oregon, so

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Speaker 2: George could attend graduate school within a day's drive of

684
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Speaker 2: the Canadian border. He never did get over that draft thing.

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Speaker 2: In nineteen seventy, George fell in love with a woman

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Speaker 2: he met in Mexico, and he and Candy divorced, no

687
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Speaker 2: hard feelings. Candy says they remained good friends until George

688
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Speaker 2: passed away in twenty eighteen. Does she regret marrying George

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Speaker 2: so suddenly in nineteen sixty five, would she have done

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Speaker 2: anything differently?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 3: I think I did the right thing.

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Speaker 6: He had definite desires to avoid being in the service

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Speaker 6: at that time, you know, and I believed in him,

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Speaker 6: and you know we were in love. You know, you

696
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Speaker 6: do stuff then, right?

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Speaker 2: What about Claudia and David, Well, they almost didn't make

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Speaker 2: it either. Claudia's family was so ashamed that she'd married

699
00:40:11,642 --> 00:40:15,242
Speaker 2: a quote draft dodger that they told her not to

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Speaker 2: tell anyone. Two days later, Claudia had to attend her

701
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Speaker 2: cousin's wedding.

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Speaker 8: And as she was walking her down the aisle, no

703
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Speaker 8: one knew that Claudia was married, and she was crying

704
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Speaker 8: and she goes and I'm sure it was interpreted as

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Speaker 8: tears of joy for this wedding, but I was crying

706
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Speaker 8: because I was watching her have the wedding I was

707
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Speaker 8: never going to get to have, which was very, very heartbreaking.

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Speaker 2: Claudia and David tried to make it work though they

709
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Speaker 2: had two kids together, but after six years they split up.

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Speaker 2: That was nineteen seventy one. Fast forward to twenty eleven.

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Speaker 2: Because they had kids together, Claudia and David never completely

712
00:40:56,082 --> 00:41:00,322
Speaker 2: left each other's lives. In twenty eleven, their first great

713
00:41:00,362 --> 00:41:05,042
Speaker 2: grandson was born in San Diego. Claudia and David made

714
00:41:05,042 --> 00:41:08,602
Speaker 2: the drive down from La together and got to talking.

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Speaker 2: David told Claudia that even after forty years, he never

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Speaker 2: stopped loving her. Two months later they were remarried, but

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Speaker 2: not in Vegas this time. When Ashton Avila was making

718
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Speaker 2: her short film based on Claudia and David's story, she

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Speaker 2: worried that Claudia's character would come across as weak. Clearly

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Speaker 2: she wasn't ready to marry David that day in nineteen

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Speaker 2: sixty five, but she did it anyway.

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Speaker 8: I think there are different looks of what strength is

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Speaker 8: for women, and that was a huge discussion we had

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Speaker 8: when we were working on the film. Was at the end,

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Speaker 8: would a strong woman walk away and not get married

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Speaker 8: because she knows that she wants her own life, or

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Speaker 8: would a strong woman sacrifice what she wants to save

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Speaker 8: the life of somebody else? And I think that there's

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Speaker 8: strength in both of those options.

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Speaker 2: Like thousands of other couples, lives took an unexpected turn

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Speaker 2: on August twenty sixth, nineteen sixty five, Claudia decided to

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Speaker 2: stand by David's side sixty years ago, and she's still

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Speaker 2: there today. Happy sixtieth anniversary to all the gray haired

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Speaker 2: couples out there who have LBJ to think or to

735
00:42:27,322 --> 00:42:31,322
Speaker 2: blame for sending them scrambling to the altar all those

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Speaker 2: years ago. You've shown us that there's truly no limit

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Speaker 2: to the things we'll do for love.

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Speaker 3: So we often say about these episodes that you know,

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Speaker 3: this should be a movie, but I really mean it

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Speaker 3: with this one. I think there's some real juicy roles

741
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Speaker 3: for a lot of nice ensemble in this. Saren is

742
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Speaker 3: our resident casting director. Did you happen to cast this one?

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Speaker 4: I got to completely agree with you that this is

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Speaker 4: film ready, Like Hollywood, take note. So here's just some

745
00:43:00,722 --> 00:43:04,162
Speaker 4: casting suggestions. I started with the twenty something cub reporter

746
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Speaker 4: from the Las Vegas Review Journal who was bouncing around

747
00:43:06,482 --> 00:43:08,922
Speaker 4: that night covering everybody. I thought, for him, you wanted

748
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Speaker 4: somebody fun, but yes, also somebody who feels like a journalist.

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Speaker 4: So I picked Noah Sentino, that guy from the Netflix

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Speaker 4: spy show The Recruit.

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Speaker 1: He's kind of a floppy haired kid.

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Speaker 2: I know him from the Netflix series To all the

753
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Speaker 2: boys I loved before.

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Speaker 4: Yes, there you go. Of course I should have mentioned

755
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Speaker 4: that one. Yes, I thought he'd be good. And then

756
00:43:26,922 --> 00:43:29,082
Speaker 4: so for the couples, I went with like, I wanted

757
00:43:29,122 --> 00:43:31,522
Speaker 4: people who felt like the time period. I wanted them

758
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Speaker 4: to have kind of like, you know, not Internet faces.

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Speaker 4: So I went for Candy and George, the couple who

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Speaker 4: flew on Bonanza Airlines. I went with Haley Stanfield for

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Speaker 4: Candy and Finn Cole for George. Finn Cole, if you

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Speaker 4: don't know him, he played Michael Gray, Polly's son from

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Speaker 4: Peaky Blinders.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know who I was kind of picturing as

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Speaker 2: one of the boys, maybe just because he had like

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Speaker 2: a minor part in Oppenheimer was Jack Quaid.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I like that call.

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Speaker 4: I also went with some World War Two era actors

769
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Speaker 4: or at least their most recent parts have been that

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Speaker 4: it picked some guys from Masters of Air. So I

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00:44:02,922 --> 00:44:06,402
Speaker 4: had Austin Butler also aka Elvis. I had him playing David,

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Speaker 4: and then claw Aaudia, the couple who drove to Las Vegas.

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Speaker 4: I thought, for Claudia, go with Florence Pugh. I thought

774
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Speaker 4: that would be a nice couple. Florence Peugh Austin Butler.

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Speaker 4: I can imagine them in that car ride, stuck with

776
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Speaker 4: the other couple, crying and everything.

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Speaker 1: So I was like, Okay, now the other one I

778
00:44:19,802 --> 00:44:20,242
Speaker 1: picked with.

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Speaker 4: The Wilsons, Dan Wilson and Nancy Wilson, not from Heart

780
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Speaker 4: the Band. Now Dan Wilson, I went with Callum Turner,

781
00:44:26,602 --> 00:44:28,842
Speaker 4: who played Bucky Egan from Masters of War. And then

782
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Speaker 4: for Nancy, I went with Sydney Sweeney. I thought they

783
00:44:31,402 --> 00:44:34,242
Speaker 4: can nail that as a relationship, and I really loved them.

784
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Speaker 4: And then all the details like when she's sitting there

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Speaker 4: holding up the photo of Dan so she can feel

786
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Speaker 4: closer to him at the wedding.

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Speaker 1: Oh Mike, my heart melted at that.

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Speaker 4: And then the fact that the end when they get

789
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Speaker 4: back together, Oh my god, I lost it.

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Speaker 1: I loved this whole series.

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Speaker 3: I'm in the fandango app trying to get tickets already.

792
00:44:51,202 --> 00:44:52,802
Speaker 4: Yes, oh my god, Yes, did you guys have any

793
00:44:52,882 --> 00:44:54,842
Speaker 4: very special characters you pulled from the step?

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Speaker 3: So I didn't want to play favorites with any of

795
00:44:56,922 --> 00:44:59,802
Speaker 3: the actual couples, So I'm trying to pick from the

796
00:44:59,802 --> 00:45:02,082
Speaker 3: people who helped them along their way. So whether it's

797
00:45:02,122 --> 00:45:05,042
Speaker 3: the judge in Missouri and the minister in Texas, maybe

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00:45:05,042 --> 00:45:08,482
Speaker 3: they could share the honor the secretary who covered the

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Speaker 3: clock with her typewriting cover. That's that's great, But I'm

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Speaker 3: going to give it to the fast thinking people of

801
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Speaker 3: Bonanza Airlines who in real time were able to decide

802
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Speaker 3: we need more flights. Can you imagine that today? Like

803
00:45:22,322 --> 00:45:25,002
Speaker 3: you're at an airport and someone just decides that, yes,

804
00:45:25,042 --> 00:45:26,602
Speaker 3: we got a lot of people going to Vegas for

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00:45:26,642 --> 00:45:28,922
Speaker 3: some reason, get the other planes out of the hangar

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Speaker 3: a different time.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, what about you, Dana, did you have one?

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Speaker 2: I think it is the secretary for me because I

809
00:45:34,762 --> 00:45:37,202
Speaker 2: can imagine that scene in the movie when she goes

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00:45:37,442 --> 00:45:39,642
Speaker 2: midnight not on my time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I loved that lady from the Clark County Courthouse

812
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Speaker 4: who undoes the lock. So they can go in and

813
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Speaker 4: get married. I just love the image of her undoing

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Speaker 4: the lock. I was like, yeah, she's like out there

815
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Speaker 4: pad locking in the courthouse and she's like, okay, I'll

816
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Speaker 4: let you and last ones to get married in the

817
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Speaker 4: night of a thousand weddings.

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Speaker 3: A lot of civil disobedience on display here.

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Speaker 4: And I love to took place in Vegas. It felt

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Speaker 4: so right that it was Vegas. I mean, this couldn't

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Speaker 4: happen in like Cincinnati. I guess you could, but I

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00:46:07,762 --> 00:46:08,722
Speaker 4: mean this is not the same.

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Speaker 2: It's the prequel to Anora that we all want.

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Speaker 3: Totally very special episodes is made by some very special people.

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Speaker 3: Today's episode was written by Dave Russ. If you like

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Speaker 3: this one and you're enjoying the NCAA tournament, go check

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Speaker 3: out an episode Dave wrote for us last May. It's

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Speaker 3: called The Shot. It's about the only three point shot

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Speaker 3: in basketball history that saved thousands of lives. Day Scott

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Speaker 3: Severn more in the pipeline for this stretch special thanks

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Speaker 3: to filmmaker Ashton Avila, who shared her invaluable research and

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Speaker 3: contacts from making her short film I Got You Babe.

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Speaker 3: Go check that out. This show is hosted by Danish Schwartz,

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Speaker 3: Zaron Burnett, and Jason English. Our super producer is Josh Fisher.

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