1 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: Hello Marlins fans, and welcome to another edition of Big 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: Fish Small Pod. As always, Big Fish Small Pod is 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: presented by MPT College Consulting. You can check us check 4 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: it out at MPT College Consulting dot com. And Marlins fans, 5 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: we have another brand new episode of my series where 6 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 1: I'll be conducting interviews with those people in the media, 7 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: in the media media outlets to discuss about new Marlin's draftees, 8 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: and today from Purdue Baseball, the voice of Purdue Baseball, 9 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: mister Kyle Charters. Kyle, it is great to have you 10 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: on here today. 11 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 2: Hey, appreciate it. Glad to take a couple of minutes 12 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 2: to talk to you about about a former Boilermaker. 13 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get to it. Starting catcher Connor Cascanett, drafted 14 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: by the Marlins, recently just signed his contract for one 15 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars signing bonus. Talk to us a little 16 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: bit about Connor for maybe those Marlon fans who may 17 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: not have watched boiler A Big ten baseball last year. 18 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 2: Well, a Canadian who came to Purdue a couple of 19 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 2: years ago and and you know, really, I think has 20 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:13,119 Speaker 2: been an extremely consistent player, especially at the plate. I mean, 21 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 2: he's had a good bat, good power, hits for good average, 22 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 2: you know, a doubles guy who you know hits home 23 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 2: runs as well. I mean, he's sort of been an 24 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 2: excellent middle of the order player for Purdue. And I 25 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: think the thing that really stands out to me is 26 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 2: is just that consistency. I mean there was never really 27 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 2: a moment in his two years in West Lafayette where 28 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 2: it even seemed like he was in a mild slump, right, 29 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 2: I mean he there was just a certain level that 30 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 2: you expected from him every day. And you know, I 31 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 2: think that's what really really stands out to me, that 32 00:01:54,000 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 2: just a consistent, consistent performer and you know, really helped Purdue. 33 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 2: I think these last couple of years, especially this last year, 34 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: really make a big jump forward. 35 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. And you know, for Connor as a catcher, one 36 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: of those premium positions, one of those positions where it 37 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: seems like you're doing multiple things at once. And for 38 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: him defensively, how would you mention maybe some of his 39 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: book behind the plate, because maybe helping out with the 40 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: pitching staff that report he has, just how was he 41 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: more on the defensive or maybe even the pitching side 42 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: of the catching position. 43 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 2: Good, and I think that's an area where he made 44 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 2: a lot of improvements from the beginning of his first 45 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 2: season last year through this year. Now. He got off 46 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:38,399 Speaker 2: to a little bit of slow star last year because 47 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 2: he had a little bit of an injury, got injured 48 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 2: in the first practice in Texas before the season opening 49 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: series down there in Sugarland, Texas, and so it slowed 50 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 2: up a little bit at the beginning of the season. 51 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 2: I think that hurt him a little bit behind the 52 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 2: plate early last year. But once he started feeling good, 53 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 2: and I think once he got a little bit of 54 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 2: an experience at the D one level, man he really 55 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 2: settled in and was great defensively. I've said before that 56 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 2: I thought he was one of the more improved Purdue 57 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 2: players for a two year player that I've seen in 58 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 2: the last twenty years, because it just seemed like he 59 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 2: skyrocketed defensively and even one I think defensive player of 60 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 2: the Year for Purdue in his first season. So it 61 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 2: just shows you, how, you know, some of maybe those 62 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 2: hiccups early in the season last year, he really once 63 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 2: he got settled in, was really solid behind the plate, 64 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 2: a good arm. I don't know if it's like the 65 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: best arm ever. But a good arm covers the territory 66 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 2: behind the plate well, seems to work well with pictures. 67 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 2: The one thing that was super interesting that he had 68 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 2: to tell us, I've never heard anyone say this before 69 00:03:54,520 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 2: on our podcast, was that he had trouble catching lefty pitchers. 70 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 2: And I've never heard that before. I don't know if 71 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 2: it was just an experienced thing it is JC or 72 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 2: back home that he just didn't have a lot of 73 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 2: it with him, or or what the situation was, but he, uh, 74 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 2: it took him a while to sort of get used 75 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 2: to lefty pitching. And I've never thought about that before. 76 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 2: I've never played the position before either, but I've never 77 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 2: heard a catcher say that that they struggled with just 78 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,359 Speaker 2: you know what arm the guy's throwing with, and you 79 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 2: know a little bit of the arm slot, the pitch angle. 80 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 2: It just was coming from a different spot. Uh. I 81 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 2: never noticed that, like you know, calling games like you know, 82 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 2: But he told us that, and you know, it must 83 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 2: have improved a lot over his two years with that. 84 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 2: But it was just interesting to hear him say that 85 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 2: because it's such an unusual thing. But really, I thought 86 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 2: by the time he left Purdue was just just really 87 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 2: solid another area where he was just super consistent in 88 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 2: everything that he did. 89 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know when he came into Burdue, you 90 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: mentioned I was doing a little research, came in from 91 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: from a JC, came in already veteran of the game. 92 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: How did he help out maybe some of the younger guys, 93 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: you know, coming in to Purdue at twenty one, How 94 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: well did he instantly go in become a leader and 95 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,559 Speaker 1: maybe if so, he help out some of the maybe 96 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: the freshmen, the sophomores on the team. 97 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 2: What's a little bit wild is he he came into 98 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:24,239 Speaker 2: a position where Purdue had two veterans catchers last year, 99 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 2: so you know, while he was a little bit nicked 100 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 2: up at the beginning of the season, those other guys 101 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 2: filled in and you had sort of wondered whether they 102 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 2: weren't just gonna stick there, you know, for that season. 103 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 2: But I think his bat was so good that Greg 104 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 2: Goff had to find a way that once he was 105 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 2: healthy again, and it didn't take him long to get 106 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 2: him back in the lineup. So yeah, I you know, 107 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 2: he especially this year, I think, you know, really grew 108 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 2: into that leadership spot because he was the guy. You know, 109 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 2: the the other two had departed want a graduate and 110 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,119 Speaker 2: won a trance for so you know, by the second 111 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 2: half of last year he was the everyday guy and 112 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 2: then this year really carried the load behind the plate. 113 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 2: Played through injury, had a little bit of I think 114 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 2: I think it was a hamstring, might have been a quad. 115 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 2: He was not for maybe a weekend in a critical series, 116 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 2: he was not one hundred percent and played through it. 117 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 2: You could tell just watching him, you know, run the 118 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 2: bases that he was probably what seventy maybe percent, but 119 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 2: stuck it out in what was a big series. Actually 120 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 2: had a pretty good series, and that can't be easy 121 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 2: to play when your lower half is a little bit 122 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 2: nicked up when you're a catcher. But you know, he 123 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 2: was able to fight through, and I you know, I 124 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 2: think that that just shows what kind of leader he 125 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 2: was for Perdue. 126 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know at Purdue, how do you believe 127 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: maybe he was or maybe how the results came in 128 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 1: when he maybe faced off against maybe those bigger teams, 129 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: those higher quality teams. Because now going into pro ball, 130 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: he's in the face guys who or maybe there were 131 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 1: the Saturday guys at you know, maybe a wake Forest 132 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 1: or something like that. Just how was he in terms 133 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: of maybe offensively against maybe that stiffer competition. 134 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have the stats in front of me, 135 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 2: but I feel is again just that consistency that it 136 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 2: didn't really seem to phase him. You know, the level 137 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 2: of competition that he was that he was facing. It's 138 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 2: not like, you know, some guys you sort of feel like, 139 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 2: you know, they're feasting off the midweek pitching or or 140 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 2: in the preseason there you know they've hit you know, 141 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 2: ten of their twelve home runs came in the first 142 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 2: three weekends when you're playing against seemingly lesser teams. It 143 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 2: didn't feel that way with him. I don't have the 144 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 2: numbers in front of me, but pretty consistent guy. You know. 145 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 2: It seemed like he was good for you know, a 146 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 2: hit a game, a double, a home run a weekend, 147 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 2: you know that that kind of thing, and just a 148 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 2: really really consistent guy, no matter no matter who he's playing, 149 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 2: and just you know, fundamentally good in terms of being 150 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 2: able to hit the ball the other way advance runners. 151 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 2: He didn't strike out a whole lot, so you know, 152 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 2: having productive outs and uh, you know, just giving his 153 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 2: team an opportunity, even if you know he wasn't able 154 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 2: to get a hit himself. 155 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, and a little bit off the field, maybe how 156 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: was Connor? Maybe your time around with him, or maybe 157 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: when you talk to some of his teammates or the 158 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: coaching staff, what are some ways that they would describe Connor, 159 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: maybe a little bit off the field and how he 160 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: was as a teammate or as a person. 161 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. I can't claim to be super close to any 162 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 2: of the guys as I get a little bit older 163 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 2: having done this for a long time, but I know 164 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 2: that he's a good natured guy. I think that he's 165 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 2: a somewhat humorous guy. I think his name came up 166 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 2: we quiz some guys occasionally on on who you know. 167 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 2: Maybe he's got the best sense of humor on the team. Uh. 168 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 2: He and produced third baseman Joe Stevens seemed to really 169 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 2: connect at times and and and be buddies and sort 170 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 2: of humorous and lead the team in a way that 171 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 2: kept everybody relaxed. So that's my impression of him as well. 172 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 2: Just a guy who enjoys the game, takes it very 173 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 2: seriously when he when he needs to, but does a 174 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,839 Speaker 2: good job of keeping his teammates relaxed, keeping the pitching 175 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 2: staff relaxed. You know, I think all those things that 176 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 2: that position or are are pretty important. 177 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: And me the last question I have about Connor is 178 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 1: just overall, how well do you see him fitting in 179 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: the pro ball system and professional baseball. You mentioned how 180 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: great he was offensively, and it's always great when you 181 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: have someone going to proballs the reigning and defensive player 182 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: of the Year at the catching position. 183 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I you know, he I think he'll 184 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 2: a just well. I mean, he's a guy that loves 185 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 2: the sport. I think that you know, when you do 186 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 2: advance up levels, it becomes a job and you have 187 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 2: to put in all the work that's necessary. You know, 188 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 2: we've seen plenty of guys from the Big ten and 189 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:05,559 Speaker 2: things who you sort of know are very talented players, 190 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 2: but maybe you're not putting in the kind of work 191 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 2: you need to make it as a professional. And my 192 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 2: impression of Cascanet is that he's going to do all 193 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 2: those things that are necessary to make it. You know, 194 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 2: it's very hard obviously getting all the way up to 195 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 2: the big leagues, but I don't think if he does 196 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 2: not make it, it's not going to be for lack 197 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 2: of an effort. I don't think which is a you know, 198 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 2: it's a good thing. You can't sort of train that, 199 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 2: right you Guys either want it or don't. And so 200 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 2: he seems like a guy who not only has some 201 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 2: talent but also has some want and that's pretty good combination. 202 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: Well that's a perfect way to end it. Kyle here 203 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: on Big Fist Small Pod, I want to thank you 204 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 1: for coming on, and maybe where can some of these 205 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: people find you? On Twitter or podcast if there's maybe 206 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: any connection between Marlins and the boiler Makers. 207 00:10:55,960 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 2: Kyle Charter seventy nine On Twitter, you can find me 208 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 2: there a lot of Purdue baseball talk, a lot of 209 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 2: Big Ten baseball as well. There are a lot of 210 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 2: produce sports in general. I do some other random stuff, 211 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 2: including today filling in on an afternoon radio show. But 212 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 2: do appreciate the time and thanks for having me and 213 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 2: do fish