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Speaker 1: Hello Sunshine, Hey vesties.

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Speaker 2: Today on the bright Side, trailblazing Olympic gold medalist Brianna

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Speaker 2: Scurry is here. She's telling us what it was like

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Speaker 2: to compete in the nineteen ninety six Games, the very

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Speaker 2: first year that women's soccer was included in the Olympics.

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Speaker 2: It's Tuesday, July twenty third. I'm Simone Boyce.

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Speaker 3: I'm Danielle Robe and this is the bright Side from

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Speaker 3: Hello Sunshine, a daily show where we come together to

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Speaker 3: share women's stories, to laugh, learn and brighten your day. Simone.

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Speaker 3: We are only days away from the Paris Games, and

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Speaker 3: of course the Olympics kick off with the opening ceremony.

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Speaker 3: So why is this important and special? Well, it's because

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Speaker 3: this year the opening ceremony will be making history. For

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Speaker 3: the first time ever, it will not be happening in

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Speaker 3: the stadium. Instead, it's going to be happening in the

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Speaker 3: heart of Paris, along its main artery, the Seine.

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Speaker 2: I can't think of a more magical, enchanted city to

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Speaker 2: be the backdrop for the Olympic Games. I was just

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Speaker 2: in Paris a few weeks ago and I had my

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Speaker 2: own little picnic along the Seine. It is such a

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Speaker 2: picturesque place to just people watch and really feel like

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Speaker 2: you are part of the beating heart of the city

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Speaker 2: of Paris, like you just said, Daniellen. To see the

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Speaker 2: Olympic rings plastered all over these iconic institutions in Paris,

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Speaker 2: the Eiffel Tower, I mean, it was just really exciting.

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Speaker 2: And this year's Games will be a celebration of first

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Speaker 2: and historical moments. And this is something that our guest

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Speaker 2: today knows quite a bit about. See, Briana Scurry was

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Speaker 2: part of the women's soccer team that debuted at the

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Speaker 2: Olympics in nineteen ninety six, and this is such an

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Speaker 2: important year in Olympic history because that year has been

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Speaker 2: described as such a watershed moment for women in sports.

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Speaker 1: I kind of want to drill into why so.

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Speaker 3: The American women who participated in the ninety six Games

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Speaker 3: were a part of the first generation of athletes raised

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Speaker 3: under Title nine. So that's the landmark federal law that

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Speaker 3: banned discrimination on the basis of gender in educational institutions,

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Speaker 3: which includes their athletic department. So it was also the

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Speaker 3: first year that women's soccer and softball were added to

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Speaker 3: the Games. And what I find really remarkable about this

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Speaker 3: is we're just talking about nineteen ninety six.

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Speaker 1: I was born in nineteen ninety one.

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Speaker 3: It is not that long ago that we started having

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Speaker 2: And the success that these athletes saw on the field

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Speaker 2: is just a testament to the untapped potential of female

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Speaker 2: athletes that was always there and always present in our

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Speaker 2: history as a nation before that moment. Because that summer,

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Speaker 2: American women absolutely dominated team sports. They won in basketball,

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Speaker 2: in softball, soccer, gymnastics with a group now as the

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Speaker 2: Magnificent Seven.

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Speaker 3: Yes, they did, and Brianna Scurry was part of that

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Speaker 3: women's soccer team that made history in nineteen ninety six

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Speaker 3: when they won the gold She was the goalkeeper. She

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Speaker 3: not just of the time, not just.

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Speaker 1: In America, in the world.

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Speaker 3: And she was one of the first openly gay players

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Speaker 2: And then in twenty seventeen, she was elected to the

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Speaker 2: National Soccer Hall of Fame, making her the first woman

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Speaker 2: goalkeeper and first black woman awarded the prestigious honor. Now

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Speaker 2: among her many many accolades, Brianna is also an author.

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Speaker 2: She released her memoir My Greatest Save in twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 2: and now she's here with us to talk about her

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Speaker 2: grand legacy in the world of sports. Brianna, Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Welcome Brianna, Thank you.

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Speaker 4: How is everybody?

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Speaker 1: Oh we're good.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: We have a legend in the house today.

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Speaker 1: We're so happy you're here with us.

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Speaker 4: Oh, thank you.

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Speaker 3: I want to dive into some of the storylines from

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Speaker 1: To take us back.

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Speaker 3: Okay, take us back to Atlanta nineteen ninety six. It

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Speaker 5: It was so exciting. I tell you, it was a

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Speaker 5: dream of a lifetime. I had wanted to be an

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Speaker 5: so I was finally having my moment, and so for me,

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Speaker 5: and that Olympics was obviously incredibly exciting, and it's the

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Speaker 5: so it was monumental.

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Speaker 4: It really was.

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Speaker 3: We heard that the fans are back this year, which

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Speaker 3: is something that was obviously taken away during COVID. Yes,

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Speaker 3: as a soccer player, do the fans impact how you play?

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Speaker 1: Does it matter?

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Speaker 5: It didn't really matter as much for my generation, I

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Speaker 5: in nineteen eighty five in Sweden, there was literally like

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Speaker 5: But obviously I feel like the team now that might

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Speaker 2: Brianna, you have such a rich story as an athlete

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Speaker 2: and really just a true pioneer. I mean, you were

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Speaker 2: but a lot of the resources that athletes are able

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Speaker 2: and resilience and persistence. I mean you were the only

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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Speaker 2: I mean we're digging deep. Okay, we're digging deep. Like,

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Speaker 2: how did you find the courage to do that? What

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Speaker 4: I love your asking me about this because I tell you, what, if.

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Speaker 5: I were to go back and rate my best athletic endeavors,

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Speaker 5: that Pop Warner team would be up there in the

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Speaker 5: my dad and I were huge football fans, and so

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Speaker 4: And when my mom and dad said that I could.

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Speaker 5: Actually play full on tackle with the boys, I was thrilled.

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Speaker 5: I couldn't believe they said, yes, I played defense and offense.

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Speaker 5: So I was a linebacker on defense and a wide

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Speaker 4: I used to sleep with the football in my hand

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I loved it.

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Speaker 4: It was so awesome.

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Speaker 5: I was devastated when I unfortunately gained a couple of

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Speaker 4: And my mom said, you know what, that's where we

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Speaker 5: So you're going to have to find something else, and

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Speaker 1: It definitely worked out.

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Speaker 3: You were the first goalkeeper for Team USA, and there's

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Speaker 3: so much pressure around being the first anything. Can you

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Speaker 3: talk a little bit about the stakes and the pressure

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Speaker 4: It's interesting. I never perceived it as pressure. I perceived

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Speaker 4: I've always wanted to play on that big stage. For me.

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Speaker 4: I think it was in part my upbringing.

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Speaker 5: My parents were incredibly supportive, and I never saw it

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Speaker 4: It just seemed like it was meant to be.

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Speaker 5: And sure enough, the two times and Olympics that I've

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Speaker 3: I love that you said meant to be, because as

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Speaker 3: that means you're in flow.

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Speaker 1: Yes, like that is.

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Speaker 3: If you're doing what you're meant to be doing, the

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Speaker 1: You're just doing right.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: I also think she's just built different. I think that

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Speaker 4: A few people would agree with you. I think I'm

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Speaker 3: Well, let's zone into that. What do you mean built different?

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Speaker 3: How do you feel different?

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Speaker 5: I feel like my soccer career, for lack of a

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Speaker 4: Way before I even knew he had plans for me.

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Speaker 5: And I find out all this stuff after the fact,

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Speaker 5: first time I saw you play, I knew you were

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Speaker 5: like years before that, and.

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Speaker 4: I obviously had no idea.

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Speaker 5: I was just doing my thing, and so there was

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Speaker 5: always a path that was there for me. I just

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Speaker 5: that's something that I was told by one of my captains,

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Speaker 5: Carla Overbeck, when I first played my first game on

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Speaker 5: the national team. She's like, you were meant to be here,

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Speaker 5: And so that's what I mean by anointed.

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Speaker 2: When I hear you talk about your destiny and the

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Speaker 2: fact that you knew that so deep in your core

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Speaker 2: that you were destined for greatness and that you felt

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Speaker 2: anointed in your purpose. This all makes so much sense

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Speaker 2: because of the fact that you weren't just the first,

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Speaker 2: you were often the only. You were the only black

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Speaker 2: were the only openly gay player on the women's national team.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: As someone who has experienced what it's like to be

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Speaker 2: the only I know that it can be really isolating. Yes,

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Speaker 2: did you ever experience that? And how did you overcome it?

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Speaker 3: I am looking at this Wheaty's box that you are on.

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Speaker 4: Yes, it is you, like my acting jobs.

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Speaker 1: I didn't even realize you were acting. I thought that

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Speaker 2: Brianna, as I was researching your career and just throughout

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Speaker 5: What happened next, Oh, my life changed, absolutely changed forever.

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Speaker 4: Next I had that hit.

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Speaker 3: That moment obviously changed the course of your life. It did,

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, So Briana tell us about this angel.

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Speaker 4: So I have three angels in my life.

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Speaker 5: One is Naomi Gonzalez, who is my former partner, and

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Speaker 5: My second angel is my longtime friend of twenty six years, Carrie.

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Speaker 5: She's been in my life for half my life and

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Speaker 4: So that's that's my third angel.

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Speaker 1: Are you guys all friends?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 2: We do.

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Speaker 4: You hang out?

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Speaker 1: We hang out so beautiful.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 5: We were all at the opening of the National African

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Speaker 2: Got props.

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Speaker 4: The girls. Yay, you're back.

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Speaker 2: Bessie's she showing us her medals. Now, first order of business.

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Speaker 5: After my wife found out that I had pawned these medals,

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Speaker 4: She said, where are they?

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Speaker 5: Let's go, Let's go get them back.

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Speaker 1: This is amazing.

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Speaker 2: This is one of the best happy endings I've ever heard.

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Speaker 2: I think that the too.

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Speaker 4: I'm right.

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Speaker 2: I think the Rotten Tomatoes score of your movie is

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent fresh. It's just so compelling and dynamic,

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Speaker 2: and you're just such a victor like you are the

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Speaker 2: And as I'm thinking about this movie in my head,

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Speaker 2: Is there one story that you feel exemplifies the sisterhood

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Speaker 4: Absolutely there is one.

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Speaker 5: So first game of the Women's World Cup in nineteen

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Speaker 5: ninety nine at the meadow Land, we were on our

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Speaker 5: way there. We had a police escort, and the rhythm

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Speaker 5: for a game is the teams have to be in

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Speaker 5: the stadium no later than ninety minutes before the game starts,

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Speaker 5: and so our police escort was leading us out there

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Speaker 5: and we had all this traffic.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we needed the escort.

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Speaker 5: If we didn't have the escort, we would have been

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Speaker 5: late to our own party, So that would have been horrible.

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Speaker 5: So the police escort had us driving on the shoulder

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Speaker 5: of the New Jersey Parkway and we were like, oh

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Speaker 5: my gosh, we're going to be late.

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Speaker 4: We're going to be late.

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Speaker 5: So we're driving on the shoulder and we're like, why

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Speaker 5: is there another game going on at the same time

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Speaker 5: our game is going on, and we're like this is crazy.

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Speaker 5: So we're looking out the bus windows and we're like,

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Speaker 5: wait a minute. All these cars that says go Team

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Speaker 5: USA on a young girls with their faces painted they.

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Speaker 4: Were the fans for our game.

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Speaker 5: Wow, causing all the traffic, and we were absolutely giddy,

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Speaker 5: like We honestly did not know that, not even giddy

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Speaker 5: that everybody people tell you the.

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Speaker 4: Same story, the exact same way.

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Speaker 5: We were like thinking that somebody made a mistake and

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Speaker 5: made a game at the same time, and we thought

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Speaker 5: for sure that this traffic was for that other event,

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Speaker 5: not for our event.

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Speaker 4: So the girls are in the vans and the cars are.

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Speaker 5: Like, wave, we got us, and we're like, wait, we

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Speaker 5: got them, and they're taking our pictures and we're taking

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Speaker 5: pictures of them, and it was just the We were

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Speaker 5: like little schoolgirls on that bus and it was so awesome.

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Speaker 2: In that moment you can see the impact that you're

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Speaker 2: having in real time.

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Speaker 5: Yes, seventy six thousand, only the Pope had more people

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Speaker 5: at the Meadowlands than we did. Pope he could have

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Speaker 5: people on the infield, by the way, that's the only

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Speaker 5: reason why he had more people at his event, because

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Speaker 5: we have to play on that pitch and he could

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Speaker 5: put people on it.

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Speaker 4: So that's where it's different.

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Speaker 3: Well, as we head into this year's Games, who or

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Speaker 3: what do you have your eye on?

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Speaker 5: So obviously every single Summer Olympics, I have my eye

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Speaker 5: on women's soccer tournament absolutely, and for me, that's always

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Speaker 5: a great draw in something that's very exciting because it's ironic,

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Speaker 5: and I will say this is kind of weird, but

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Speaker 5: you might actually appreciate it. I get more nervous now

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Speaker 5: because I wasn't nervous when I was playing at all.

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Speaker 4: But now I'm like for these.

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Speaker 5: Kids, literally because they're half my age, and I'm all

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Speaker 5: excited for them. And now I understand what it must

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Speaker 5: have been like for my parents to be goalkeeper parents

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Speaker 5: and have to worry about their child out there playing

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Speaker 5: on the big stage. But I can't wait for that.

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Speaker 5: And then also I want to see Simone. I can't

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Speaker 5: wait to see Simone Biles out there. I tell you

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Speaker 5: to talk about brave, you know, I mean for me.

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Speaker 5: I'm a huge advocate for mental health, as you can imagine,

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Speaker 5: I've been talking about it since twenty thirteen.

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Speaker 4: And her bravery that.

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Speaker 5: She showed in the last games where she had a

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Speaker 5: step back, and that was true bravery.

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Speaker 4: She just knew I have to do this.

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Speaker 5: I'm just not ready, can't do this right now, And

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Speaker 5: that took way more courage than anything else she'd probably

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Speaker 5: ever done before that, and I appreciate and respect that

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Speaker 5: about her.

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Speaker 4: I want to see her do well.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 2: Briana, we could talk to you all day. You are

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Speaker 2: such an inspiration. Thank you, Thank you so much for

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Speaker 2: bringing your story here on the bright side.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 3: Briana Scurry is one of the most decorated goalkeepers in

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Speaker 3: American women's soccer history and the author of My Greatest Save.

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Speaker 2: That's it for today's show. Tomorrow, we're talking to sleep

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Speaker 2: scientist doctor Rebecca Robbins about how to get good sleep,

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Speaker 2: active dreaming, and whether it's possible for any of us

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Speaker 2: to actually catch up on sleep.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Keep looking on the bright side.