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Speaker 1: On today's episode of Drive to the Draft podcast, we

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Speaker 1: talked tight Ends. We had some record of breaking performances

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Speaker 1: by two guys in particular, and the group itself was fast.

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Speaker 1: You know, six guys ran faster than the fastest guy

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Speaker 1: last year. That's unbelievable. Got safeties also, Man, that was

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Speaker 1: such a fun group to watch. I just feel like

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Speaker 1: Sean Taylor's impact on this group can be seen at

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Speaker 1: every level. And then we got corner Pick your flavor, man, chocolate,

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Speaker 1: It's going to be there for you. It all starts

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Speaker 1: right now.

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Speaker 2: Give me that chocolate taco tip. Welcome to the Drive

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Speaker 2: to the Draft Podcast.

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Speaker 3: I am just a guy, Jason Jason Johnson here with

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Speaker 3: Logan Paulson, former NFL tight end, ten year NFL VET,

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Speaker 3: and man the Logan Paulson's went today. That was the

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Speaker 3: tight Ends. Yeah, with author, the safeties and the cornerbacks.

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Speaker 3: It's a lot of guys that we're going to dive

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Speaker 3: into here, a lot of options that the commanders could

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Speaker 3: have done at number seven. Now, but before we get

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Speaker 3: into it, Logan, I want everybody in the know we're

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Speaker 3: good front, good friends, good buddies.

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Speaker 2: Such good friends that I sent you a picture of

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Speaker 2: Tara Massoux the other day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I was like, what the hell, Like a

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Speaker 1: good friend should like, why do you send me that?

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Speaker 3: Well, I just wanted you to know that I was

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Speaker 3: about to have this delicious meal and I was thinking

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Speaker 3: about you. I was thinking about you, and I was saying,

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Speaker 3: I hope Logan Paulson one day gets a nice piece

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Speaker 3: of Tara Massoux like this. It's a silly bit that

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Speaker 3: we do. It's a silly bit.

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Speaker 2: That we do.

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Speaker 3: We have somebody and and that we know that does

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Speaker 3: that to his friends.

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Speaker 2: He just takes pictures of Tara Massoux and sends.

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Speaker 1: Kind of a weird kind of word bit.

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Speaker 3: I just wanted to give it, give it a go,

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Speaker 3: see what it feels like. Just try it on for

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Speaker 3: size and get it. See what the reaction was there.

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Speaker 3: But we're really good friends, so we can just do that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just buddies.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, real quickly, some house cleaning, right, Okay, So we're

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Speaker 3: doing this draft by after every day at the combine.

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Speaker 3: This is going to be our recap of day two,

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Speaker 3: then tomorrow will to be day three, then o line

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Speaker 3: will be day four. You'll get those podcasts that come out.

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Speaker 3: We also got a couple interviews here. We got Connor

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Speaker 3: Rodgers from NBC Sports and you may know him from

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Speaker 3: NFL Stock Exchange.

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Speaker 2: He sat down with you.

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Speaker 1: He was great, man, He's always so good, such a

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Speaker 1: pro and just so well researched on all the.

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Speaker 2: Prospects and like just a super cool dude.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, very cool, right.

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Speaker 2: Like just a nice guy, which I love about him.

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Speaker 2: And then you also sat down.

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Speaker 1: With the Dane Brugler from the Athletic who is the

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Speaker 1: supercomputer of the draft. And I mean that with all

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Speaker 1: the piece of draft literature if you are a draftnick

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Speaker 1: know how he does it. I think he had five

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's those are two really fascinating conversations. We're

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Just look out for it because it's two really cool,

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Speaker 3: great conversations that you have with those guys. A lot

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Speaker 3: And we can see you over at the fan experience.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna coach up some fans. We got a little

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Speaker 3: Something from the Combine with you out there talking with

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Speaker 3: I missing? I feel like I'm missing one Adam Peters interview.

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Speaker 3: You had an interview with Adam Peters. Adam Peters doesn't

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Speaker 3: Please go watch that. You won't probably hear from Adam

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Speaker 3: You hear kind of insights from him and what's going

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Speaker 1: That's right. Now, that's really special.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about Logan Paulson's Okay, overarching what did you think?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm really glad you gave that lead in there,

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Speaker 3: So here's just real quickly, some tight ends drafted in

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Speaker 1: four to six two, yesterday, right and he's a, big

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Speaker 1: explosive athletic. Freak and So i'm looking down the board

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Speaker 3: Potentially, Yeah and just to speak to your point real

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Speaker 3: quickly here last year at pick ten Was Colston. Lovelin

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Speaker 3: but also in that draft in round three Was Harold. Fanning,

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Speaker 3: right good. Season Brock bowers in twenty and twenty four

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Speaker 3: Round Theo johnson fourth, ROUND kJ, Barner, like you're finding players.

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Speaker 3: Here Dalton kinkaid in twenty twenty three was a first round.

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Speaker 3: in the third round It's Darnel washington at third, Round,

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Speaker 3: past five. Years so my point, being If washington takes

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Speaker 3: no you know you're getting a, good solid. Piece but

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Speaker 3: guys that showed up here and have good tape that

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Speaker 3: Was isaiah likely plug it likely in draft one of

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Speaker 3: these guys in your with your six, pick right or

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Speaker 1: Pick, yeah, yeah tight end room looks really good, Now,

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Speaker 1: Yeah AND i think that's the way you want to

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Speaker 1: beast and we everyone talks about this offensive getting offense

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Speaker 1: think he does compete in. Line he's more of a move,

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Speaker 1: good sight. End polson lovel in the back half of

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Speaker 1: the year was excellent for the for The. Bears Sam

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Speaker 1: laporta For detroit was excellent for. Them so it's a

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Speaker 1: huge piece in terms of maximizing offensive efficiency for. Them

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Speaker 1: and SO i think he would be a really nice hit.

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Speaker 1: There my question, is, like does the length thirty one

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Speaker 1: up at some point for him in terms of blocking in,

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Speaker 1: i think there's a lot of really talented pieces down the,

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Speaker 1: Like Dalen bentley From, Utah like no one's really talking about,

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Speaker 1: him round a four to six,' eight but very Productive,

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Speaker 1: at utah physical in line like that's it's kind of

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Speaker 1: a Funny CLASS like i think we were talking about.

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Speaker 1: This yesterday like the fastest forty time in last Year's

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Speaker 1: combine jason was a four to six to Two By,

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Speaker 1: terrence ferguson who was another later round. Tight end he,

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Speaker 1: Productive kind of a big slot player. For them. This

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Speaker 1: year there's like, five guys six guys who ran faster,

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Speaker 1: big bodies in here that could play inline Yb Or

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Speaker 1: john bates if you. Wanted TO but i think if

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Speaker 1: you're looking for, a playmaker a developmental playmaker in, this

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Speaker 1: draft there's a lot of, pieces here and the tail

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Speaker 1: of this thing feels it feels like, the receivers, you

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Speaker 1: know like we talked about. The shievers maybe there's not like.

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Speaker 1: That true, You Know carnel tait's an, Excellent Player jordan

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Speaker 1: tyson's got the, injury history McKay, lemon small but the

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Speaker 1: tail of the receiver class looks. EXTREMELY deep i feel

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Speaker 1: the same way about the tight. End, Group man like

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Speaker 1: if you wanted someone in, the, fifth sixth or seventh

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Speaker 1: rounds that could add to this team usually in, the

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Speaker 1: don't really feel that way. About That like tanner what's,

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Speaker 1: His Name tanner Cozier. From houston he's, six seven he's

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Speaker 1: got thirty four, Inch arms he's a little, bit lighter he's.

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Speaker 1: A hunt he's two hundred and forty, one pounds but,

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Speaker 1: you know can run adjust well to. The football does

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Speaker 1: not the best competitor. In line but if you're looking

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Speaker 1: that's a, nice piece and he'll probably be there because

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Speaker 1: of his deficiencies in terms of body weight and competing

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Speaker 1: in line later in. The draft so it's just a,

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Speaker 1: to me it's a really compelling group because of the athleticism,

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Speaker 1: they showed because of the diverse, skill set like you

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Speaker 1: really can. Go anywhere and remember this year they brought

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Speaker 1: twenty eight tight ends To. The combine that's the most

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Speaker 3: Looking at it the way that the tight end room

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Speaker 3: is set Up for, washington now and let's assume that

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Speaker 3: we're not picking.

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Speaker 2: A tight end in the. First Round So, Kenyan.

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Speaker 3: Steek eli stowers, probably right like he's made a good name.

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Speaker 3: For himself talk About, qu yeah let's talk ABOUT REAL qui,

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Speaker 3: i mean and then we'll move to these later guys

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Speaker 3: that you think could.

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Speaker 2: Be there let's, Right off.

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Speaker 1: So the other like two guys Would Be max Claire

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Speaker 1: From ohio state and who didn't test, yes day but

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Speaker 1: he did the, field work And Then, michael trigg who

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Speaker 1: didn't do. Anything yesterday he. Just measured he's the Guy

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Speaker 1: from baylor who's everyone's kind of talking about but didn't show.

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Speaker 1: Anything Yesterday eli stowers had a forty five inch vertical

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Speaker 1: yesterday that is a, combined, record right he had an

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Speaker 1: eleven four broad jump that is a, combined record and

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Speaker 1: he ran a four five. Flat forty he is so

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Speaker 1: good at finding zones and running routes that people are

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Speaker 1: talking about him playing like full time. Slot receiver like

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Speaker 1: that's the kind of skill set you're, Talking here so where.

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Speaker 2: You're where is he generally think going?

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Speaker 1: To?

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Speaker 2: Fall like where was he so to me before coming?

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Speaker 2: In here where do you think?

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Speaker 1: YOU can i just think it's so funny how because,

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Speaker 1: YOU know i Worked, with eli and so like it's

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Speaker 1: FUNNY when i look at these LISTS and i don't

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Speaker 1: see him, On there, i'm like? Why not like he's,

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Speaker 1: a BEAST and i think yesterday he basically, WAS like

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Speaker 1: i am at a worst worst, case scenario second, round

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Speaker 1: pick assuming medical and. Everything's fine as FAR as, i

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Speaker 1: know that's. All good so, to me he's a second.

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Speaker 1: Round pick so in terms of Like, the commanders he's

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Speaker 1: kind of in that no man's land where they don't have.

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Speaker 3: A pick but if the commanders were hypothetically the trade

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Speaker 3: back you grab a second, round pick maybe you're looking at.

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Speaker 1: This, Guy correct AND so i think that would be

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Speaker 1: again just because. He's there this, is, Explosive man he's,

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Speaker 1: an explosive, dynamic playmaker like and that's what you're. Looking

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Speaker 1: FOR and i think that's the fun thing about again about.

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Speaker 3: This, group okay so now let's not do. A hypothetical

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Speaker 3: let's Assume that washington is picking where. They're picking who

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Speaker 3: are some guys that are in the later rounds that

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Speaker 3: you THINK and i know you already you already threw

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Speaker 3: out the Name in, oh shoot who did you?

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Speaker 1: Just say have?

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Speaker 3: Him?

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Speaker 2: Here tanner Yea?

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Speaker 3: From houston and there any guys that are like a

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Speaker 3: little bit later that would compliment what we, already have

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Speaker 3: Compliment The john bates And.

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Speaker 1: The. Benson yeah so there's a couple and this is why.

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Speaker 1: It's fun there's a couple of, guys. Here Right So,

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Speaker 1: marlon klein the Guy from MICHIGAN that i, just mentioned

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Speaker 1: who is this big old hoss like he was way

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Speaker 1: under you Like that michigan offense man really struggle busted

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Speaker 1: this year and so he had a big. One game

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Speaker 1: and the thing about him is you see this kind

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Speaker 1: of like basketball. Movement skill he's a little bit tight in,

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Speaker 1: the HIPS but i look at a guy who could

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Speaker 1: compete in line. FOR you i mean he was two.

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Speaker 1: SIXTY two i didn't think he was. That big he,

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Speaker 1: was huge and for him to be able to stretch,

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Speaker 1: and have that body size, to, Him like i'm going

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Speaker 1: to like his pro. DAY workout i want to see

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Speaker 1: him run like routes from the perimeter, because that to

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Speaker 1: me seems like an athletic size profile piece that could

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Speaker 1: be something. PRETTY special I mentioned oscar Delt from georgia

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Speaker 1: EVERY time i cut. The, Film mom, i'm like this

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Speaker 1: dude is a he's. A ballplayer he's got, great, hip ankle,

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Speaker 1: knee flexibility and he's competitive in the. Run game but

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Speaker 1: the other thing he. DIDN'T run i think he's. Got

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Speaker 1: injury but he like rips the Scene and, i'm like

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Speaker 1: why did you not get? More touches and so if

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Speaker 1: you're talking about a guy at, SEVENTY one I Think

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Speaker 1: oscar delp would be in. Play there if you're talking

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Speaker 1: about a, Guy later klein is a GUY that i would.

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Speaker 1: Look to and then who's the other GUY that i

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Speaker 1: wanted to. Talk About dalan bentley on this list is

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Speaker 1: way down, the board but His table utah, is, Incredible

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Speaker 1: right he competes, in line he catches. The football his

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Speaker 1: production prior to last year was. Not great AND. R

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Speaker 1: j MARYLAND, from smu like he was not on my radar.

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Speaker 1: AT all i gotta go back and. Watch him but

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Speaker 1: he ran out to like. A receiver so if you're

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Speaker 1: looking for somebody to make plays for you in the

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Speaker 1: scene down, the field be this kind of dynamic element to,

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Speaker 1: Your offense like pick, your, flavor man it's here.

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Speaker 3: For you and just give you our listeners some context

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Speaker 3: what you were talking about a little. Bit Earlier dalen

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Speaker 3: bentley From, the, utah, right yeah ran a four six, to,

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Speaker 3: two right AND. Then rj maryland from S and u

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Speaker 3: ran a four or five. To one so like these

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Speaker 3: are later way down there in the guys and they're

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Speaker 3: still moving like.

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Speaker 1: They're moving it's unbelievable to think that like the fastest

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Speaker 1: guy last year who basically played receiver last YEAR for

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00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:59,120
Speaker 1: la running a four six Two And, terrence ferguson all

432
00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,280
Speaker 1: these guys were talking about ran, that way ran with

433
00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:05,040
Speaker 1: that kind, of ability and you can see how their body.

434
00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,000
Speaker 1: Size there and that was the. Other thing we stayed

435
00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,520
Speaker 1: and watched the field work and usually there's guys and

436
00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,600
Speaker 1: again there's guys like the Kid From ohio state who's

437
00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,600
Speaker 1: this big blocking kind of in like Will chas, merrick

438
00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,560
Speaker 1: right who looks a little, bit different but everybody else

439
00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,680
Speaker 1: looks like a big. SLOT receiver, i mean you watched, The,

440
00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,399
Speaker 1: drills jason like the way they adjust, the football like

441
00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,119
Speaker 1: the tightness that you normally see at, The position like

442
00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,159
Speaker 1: from half. THE group i just, was like what the

443
00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,119
Speaker 1: hell's going? On here like it feels like. It's changing

444
00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,360
Speaker 1: it's got to. Be changing do you think that.

445
00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,639
Speaker 3: Some of these guys would have played a different position

446
00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:39,280
Speaker 3: at a. Different time they would have, been, like hey

447
00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:41,439
Speaker 3: don't put on as, much weight or you're putting on.

448
00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,199
Speaker 3: More weight you're going to be a, Guard now like

449
00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:45,520
Speaker 3: what do you think is going? On here it's.

450
00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:48,480
Speaker 1: Tough like in terms of like traditional body, type Obviously

451
00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:52,880
Speaker 1: like pasmeric kind of fits. That mold sam what's what's?

452
00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:57,120
Speaker 1: His name, Oh Gosh sam rousch is kind of. That mold,

453
00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:00,360
Speaker 1: these bigger kind of. Hulking Guys But sam roush like, ran,

454
00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,520
Speaker 1: Great right it's. JUST funny i think part of, it

455
00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,000
Speaker 1: IS like i think a lot of these guys would

456
00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,600
Speaker 1: have played, defensive end a lot of them because they're.

457
00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:10,440
Speaker 1: So athletic But like eli through four years ago would have,

458
00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:14,000
Speaker 1: Played Receiver kenyon sadik might have played. Running back like, that's,

459
00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:18,480
Speaker 1: like yeah like they the position in college is becoming much, more,

460
00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,800
Speaker 1: Diverse right you're getting like kind of These like. Tanner

461
00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,439
Speaker 1: goals cozier to me would be like a big like

462
00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,919
Speaker 1: he'd Go to stanford and play receiver because they were

463
00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,920
Speaker 1: always kind of about, these, big tall angular receivers that

464
00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,119
Speaker 1: would just catch, fade balls and that's what he Did.

465
00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,240
Speaker 1: At houston but he did some stuff, in line so

466
00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,520
Speaker 1: he's tied end. In name but like that skill set

467
00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,960
Speaker 1: would have looked a couple very very different a couple of.

468
00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,840
Speaker 1: Years ago some of. These guys, It's funny LIKE usually

469
00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:43,400
Speaker 1: i used, to say like some of these guys would play.

470
00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,399
Speaker 1: Offensive line with, This group, i'm like they all would have,

471
00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,440
Speaker 1: played receiver they would have, played linebacker they old have

472
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:49,120
Speaker 1: played defense.

473
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,520
Speaker 2: Defensive, right okay let's move on to.

474
00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:55,240
Speaker 3: The, Safeties, okay yeah Fun, group okay so the big

475
00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,520
Speaker 3: name in the safety group Is Obviously caleb Downs From. Ohio,

476
00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:02,439
Speaker 3: state now two days ago we HAD R vl reese

477
00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,040
Speaker 3: and We Had sunny Styles From. Ohio state they went

478
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,760
Speaker 3: out there and. They ran didn't Happen For caleb. Downs

479
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,320
Speaker 3: here he didn't do any of, the running but he did,

480
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 3: the measuring and he didn't do the, field work and

481
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,679
Speaker 3: he didn't do the. Field work he's gonna save that

482
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,320
Speaker 3: for the. Pro day why do you think? That is

483
00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,359
Speaker 3: does that hurt? At all because here's the Thing With

484
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:22,840
Speaker 3: caleb downs for just, a guy he's LIKE one A

485
00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:24,720
Speaker 3: one b best player in.

486
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,480
Speaker 2: This Draft but jeremiah.

487
00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:30,440
Speaker 3: Loves right so why if your other dudes are coming

488
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,760
Speaker 3: out HERE in Rvl Recent, sunny styles why aren't you?

489
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,200
Speaker 2: DOING it i don't have any answer. To that i'm

490
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:36,120
Speaker 2: not knocking them.

491
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,280
Speaker 3: For it this doesn't change my grade, on him but

492
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,360
Speaker 3: what Do you IT'S just i just want you to.

493
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:42,880
Speaker 2: Talk to me about.

494
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 3: The mentality there's a decision making that goes, into this

495
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 3: not is it right? Or wrong just why why do

496
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 3: players decide to either go here or go at the?

497
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 1: Pro day so, you know obviously there can be. An injury,

498
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:55,399
Speaker 1: you Know like i've worked with tight ends in the

499
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:59,440
Speaker 1: past and they've, you know tweaked a hamstring in their

500
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,359
Speaker 1: training and they want to make sure they're really healthy

501
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,200
Speaker 1: for prote so they can put their best. Foot forward

502
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,359
Speaker 1: they're they're nursing an injury from, the season so they

503
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 1: didn't get as much training time as. THEY want, i think,

504
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,159
Speaker 1: you know like we Talked About ruben bain and A

505
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 1: key messador and how they. DIDN'T run i think. They

506
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,640
Speaker 1: went they just came off a crazy long. Football season

507
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,160
Speaker 1: they're trying to, get healthy they're trying to. Get right

508
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:16,919
Speaker 1: like that all makes sense. To Me, caleb downs long,

509
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,200
Speaker 1: football season the same type. Of deal the, other, thing

510
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 1: too is if you're not going to test, well here

511
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:22,679
Speaker 1: like if you if you don't think it's gonna if

512
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 1: you're not putting your best, foot forward just don't. Do

513
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,199
Speaker 1: it and it could, be like, hey man It's JUST

514
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,120
Speaker 1: i've i again working with the GUYS that i work

515
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 1: with in. The draft like there was a time WHERE

516
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,960
Speaker 1: like i was up with his this, This player i'm

517
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 1: not going to say. His name we're up running forties

518
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,399
Speaker 1: in the in the, convention center getting ready for the,

519
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 1: next day and he. Was timing the coach was timing

520
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 1: his tens and the tens were about a tenth of

521
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:45,879
Speaker 1: a second off what he had done. In training, he

522
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 1: said why don't we just save it FOR The prodac

523
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:49,239
Speaker 1: like it could have been as simple, As that like

524
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 1: we're just not locked in. For today. You know We

525
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:53,880
Speaker 1: Had dane brugler on the guy who does the beast

526
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,360
Speaker 1: he works for The athletic, he said no players interviewed

527
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,159
Speaker 1: Better Than. Caleb downs so even though he doesn't do

528
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 1: anything on the fieldw, He Said caleb Downs And sunny

529
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,120
Speaker 1: styles both interviewed. Incredibly well so like with regards to

530
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 1: like Winning, the combine, for us it's like a little

531
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,880
Speaker 1: disappointing that we don't get to see. Him run but by,

532
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 1: all accounts it seems like he's absolutely killing the stuff

533
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 1: that he, did do which is the interviews and maybe,

534
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 1: more important so maybe he just didn't. Feel good maybe

535
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 1: those are going to. Test well if you're if this

536
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 1: is the other, thing too if you're going to potentially

537
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 1: be a top ten pick and you know you're gonna

538
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 1: run like a four, to six. Don't run just. Don't

539
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,160
Speaker 1: run it's better for them to not know and try

540
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:28,679
Speaker 1: to guess at your time because you have stuff, on

541
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,920
Speaker 1: tape YOU have gps data than actually confirm a. Slow.

542
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 3: Time, Yeah absolutely i'm not saying to. Do that but

543
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,959
Speaker 3: these are just different philosophers that people. Go, through now

544
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 3: let's talk about somebody who doesn't have a slow time.

545
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 3: Real quickly It's A lorenzo, Styles Junior sunny styles brother

546
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 3: dude who ran a four to. Seven, forty now The

547
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,159
Speaker 3: reason i'm bringing this up is because whenever somebody runs

548
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 3: super fast at, the combine it. Turns heads and how

549
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,679
Speaker 3: much does that move somebody up or down a, draft

550
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 3: board if any? At all if, it's, like, hey hey

551
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 3: we've all been talking about. Your brother you have, okay, tape,

552
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 3: right okay but damn so you?

553
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 1: CAN move i got. A question i got a question. For,

554
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 1: it yeah have You Watched? Lorenzo? Styles no are you

555
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 1: gonna watch? Him now, probably yes, me too just to

556
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 1: see if that.

557
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:17,160
Speaker 2: Speed.

558
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 1: Translates right, so yeah, that point that's, the, point right

559
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 1: that's the. Entire POINT like i he so we have

560
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 1: a sheet little, people behind how? We do we have

561
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 1: a sheet with a bunch of names, on It And

562
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 1: lorenzo styles is NOWHERE near i didn't even know. He

563
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 1: was he existed as a football player until. YES day

564
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 1: i was talking to, somebody, like oh, You Know sonny

565
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 1: styles is. A brother i, was like, OH no. I did.

566
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 1: That's crazy he was always gonna run for. The safe that's

567
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 1: THAT'S how i found out that. He EXISTED and i was.

568
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 1: Like whatever then he runs a fourth, two Seven and,

569
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 1: I'M like i gotta. GO watch i gotta go find

570
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 1: tape of him now and figure out if he can play,

571
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,919
Speaker 1: special teams if, he's competitive if. HE'S tough i gotta just,

572
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 1: see it because like this is.

573
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 3: Where you find potentially diamonds in. The Rough lad you're

574
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 3: in the round because it's like we've talked about. This

575
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 3: before you're not drafting for what you expect to be

576
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 3: a starter in the. Seventh, Round yes i'm NOT saying

577
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:08,959
Speaker 3: i don't know where he's going, to go but, just

578
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 3: overarching this is Not About. Lorenzo, styles overarching you're not

579
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,159
Speaker 3: looking for that at. The seven what you're looking for

580
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 3: at seven is probably. Two things you're looking at somebody

581
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 3: that can help you right now in a very very,

582
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 3: specific role whether that's on game Day, or sunday or

583
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 3: on a practice squad potentially or in the.

584
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 2: Lock in the film room like something.

585
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 3: Like that you're looking for somebody that can help your

586
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 3: team in this way that isn't maybe on the Field.

587
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,159
Speaker 3: On sunday and then you're also looking at what is

588
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 3: somebody that has a singular TRAIT that i can TAKE

589
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 3: and i can DEVELOP and i can get something. Out

590
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 3: of and if his singular trait now talking, about styles

591
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 3: is he is super fast and he also is aggressive like,

592
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 3: his brother maybe this is worth a FLYER because i

593
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:02,159
Speaker 3: can get him to a point to be a gunner in,

594
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 3: special teams to be a special, teams demon to be

595
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 3: on that, practice squad to help, us grow and then

596
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 3: maybe OVER time i got myself a nice solid depth piece.

597
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 1: AT safety i think that's. EXACTLY right i think you're,

598
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: you know one of the things with later round Pack And,

599
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 1: ADAM peters i will say in his drafts does a

600
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,679
Speaker 1: great job of this is finding Guy like, jordan, McGee Right, Tyler,

601
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 1: owens right these guys later down the board we haven't

602
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 1: really seen a Lot, from kine but these guys with

603
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 1: these athletic Profiles That, Pervesky, merritt yeah that project to

604
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: Something More, jean, baptiste right like the like these are

605
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 1: all contributors that were later in. The round so he's

606
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 1: got a really good feel for this area of. The

607
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 1: draft and THAT'S why I think lorenzo style is interesting

608
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 1: because like if we got to watch, the FILM but

609
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 1: i think about a GUY that i played WITH, The Ucla,

610
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 1: matthew slater who Played For new england for fifteen years

611
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 1: as a gunner and he was a special teams captain the,

612
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 1: Entire time like there's, something, there right Or, A Reeves

613
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 1: jeremy reeves an, excellent example like he enters your program

614
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: as a special teams as a practice Squad Guy besich. Teams,

615
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: lunatic yeah and then last year you, see like shoot

616
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: he can play some competitive football and starting.

617
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:07,199
Speaker 3: For.

618
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: You yeah AND so, i think like this is where

619
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 1: the four two seven you go back, AND say i

620
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 1: got to go watch and see what this. Guy is and,

621
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 1: It's funny LIKE now I think i don't know anything about,

622
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 1: the TAPE but i would assume he gets drafted at

623
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: some point because of. This number and that's that's what.

624
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: This is what he is the exact reason you do

625
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: this at, The combine he's the. Exact reason so we talked.

626
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 3: About the very top of the safety glass and downs

627
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 3: THE very i don't want to, say bottom but one

628
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 3: of the guys, that like you're not you're not even

629
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 3: looking at and he makes you look. Your way so

630
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 3: now let's talk about. The others the thing here about

631
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,120
Speaker 3: safety is do you feel like, this position what you're

632
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 3: looking for from, this position both the body type and

633
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 3: play style is changing now IN, the nfl and therefore

634
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 3: what are we starting to? Look AT because i think

635
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 3: conn are the days OF like, i mean if you

636
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 3: Have A, sean taylor you're, doing that but You're not

637
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 3: those aren't safe how.

638
00:27:58,480 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 2: Safeties ARE but.

639
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 1: I THINK sean I Think sean taylor is a really

640
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 1: good EXAMPLE because i think he was ahead of. The

641
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 1: curve and SO what i mean by That Is sean

642
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,199
Speaker 1: taylor was a guy that you could play in, the

643
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: box so you could tackle. Really well he also play in.

644
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: The post he also, play nickel you could also play

645
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: a little bit. Of linebacker and when you look at

646
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 1: the safety position IN, the nfl that's what it is

647
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: like he was like the pioneer. Of it when WAS

648
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 1: he drivt like that was you know twenty years ago? Almost?

649
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 1: Now right he.

650
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 2: Was huge two that's the. Other thing he's way bigger

651
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 2: than any.

652
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: Of them so you know what's, Crazy though i'm going

653
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 1: through these lists right these Guys like i'm trying to,

654
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 1: let me let me pull up my little sheet here.

655
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 1: Real quick sure there IS so i was doing safety

656
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: in putting just some of the data from. The, combine

657
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: like these are guys that, ran yesterday and they. Ran FAST.

658
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: So vj payne six three two ten four four forty

659
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: thirty five inch vertigal seven ten broad or ten seven broad,

660
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: excuse me and a nine and a half inchant like

661
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: that is a. Big man, you know he's a. Big

662
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 1: Dude Uh jalen kilgore six to one two ten nine

663
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: and three eighths inch hand like even though he's, not,

664
00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: heavy right, they're fast. They're Physical Robert spears Jenny from

665
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: oklahoma six two to two. Oh Five, lorenzo styles we

666
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 1: just talked. About him he's six six foot and a

667
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: half like not a small man by any stretch of the.

668
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: Imagination Trade and Stukes from arizona who. Surprised everybody he's

669
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: sixty one. Two hundred he ran a four to Three

670
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: forty like that's the type of like, to me like

671
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: utility player football player body type you're, looking for where

672
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: like those guys could play linebacker right in in the

673
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: dime package and a spread situation on third. And, six

674
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: hey have him be, your dime have him be. Your,

675
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: Nickel right, but ALSO like i Think Trade ann stukes

676
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: is really interesting because he plays kind of the star Position,

677
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: at arizona but he also plays. Post safety he also

678
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: plays a linebacker on third and long situations and can

679
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: play man coverage and can play zone if you. Wanted to,

680
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: so that to me is the way the position. Is

681
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 1: going is you're getting these guys that are like, not

682
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: huge they're not two hundred and, thirty pounds but they're

683
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: two oh five to ten, two fifteen, they're tall they,

684
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: can RUN and i think that's the direction the position.

685
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: Is GOING like i Think Even, DYLAN thineman i don't

686
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:04,719
Speaker 1: remember his, exact tidenwait let me look it up. Real

687
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: quick like HE was i think like like a pretty

688
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: a six foot, two ten six foot, two ten ran

689
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: a four to three five plays in, the post played Nickel. At,

690
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: Perdue right but like that's what you're like. That Flexibility,

691
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 1: bud clark, same, thing right he's six,' to one he's

692
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: one ninety ran a four four forty played. In The

693
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: post played. Nickel like, that to me that that when

694
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: you say what, YOU'RE looking for. I Think flexibility toronta

695
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: jones talked about it. In college football this is. A

696
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: flexible piece so it's a guy that can, play man

697
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: coverage plays own can line up in. Multiple different positions

698
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: so you're looking for, a smart player you're looking for,

699
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: a physical player and that's, where to me the film

700
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: is going to separate some of these guys Out because

701
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: like i'm not going to name THE play because i

702
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 1: don't want to, shot him OUT but like i was

703
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 1: watching film with, somebody this morning not, A great tackler

704
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: so can they play that NICKEL at? The nfl level? Probably,

705
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: not right yeah but and you maybe put him. In

706
00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: the post can you hide him? A? Little bit sure

707
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: but that's that's not really what the. Safety, position is

708
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: now it's you got it because everything's from, a, quarter's

709
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: shell right it's from this two. High safety look so

710
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: someone's going to be, in the box fit, in the

711
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: run and someone's gonna. Be the post but you can't

712
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: predetermine it the way you can and like cover, Three

713
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: for example so very different. TYPE of bait i think.

714
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,479
Speaker 1: This group reflects and we were watching the, Field, work

715
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: yesterday jason and the thing that jumped out to me

716
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: and was really, exciting was like much like. The tight ends, it,

717
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: wasn't like oh, that's the starter, that's the starter that's the.

718
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: First round pick obviously? What's his name dylan theenum and

719
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: really had an excellent day And.

720
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 2: Really, stood oregon yeah.

721
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: Really stood out, BUT everybody else, i was like that,

722
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: guy moves great, that's great catch that's great adjustment to,

723
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: the football there which in years past has not been

724
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: the case.

725
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 3: With, this, Group right absolutely and that's interesting that you

726
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 3: brought up that that's. How It's Moving and sean taylor

727
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 3: was maybe ahead of the. Curve with that just to

728
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 3: be very CLEAR because our i know Our Fans. LOVE

729
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 3: sean Taylor I. LOVE sean taylor i want to get.

730
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 3: These things right he was six two and a half

731
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 3: two twenty eight, at the combine ran a four four

732
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 3: five month so just to eat these. Guys are big

733
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 3: he's still he's.

734
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: Still like that that. Eight is crazy it's a crazy

735
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: number because again like like big, for a, safety, you

736
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: know yeah, two fifteen big but he's, ten pounds heavier

737
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: almost fifteen pounds Heavier AND could and i think the

738
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: number there that really jumps out is the four four

739
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,479
Speaker 1: five in Terms, of his yeah he ran that his

740
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: instincts and you're always kind of hunting for him. As

741
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: THE archetype but i think these guys are kind of

742
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: low deaf. Versions, of that.

743
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 3: Yeah that's a great way. To put it love that,

744
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 3: like like light. Like, to, eat yeah right.

745
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: Like there's no. There's no shot he's.

746
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 3: One, of, one no, yes of course but that the

747
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 3: idea of like you would utilize them in, the same

748
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 3: way and that safety is.

749
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: Moving that directly you think about how many teams run three,

750
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: safety looks now and that third safety is essentially like

751
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: a linebacker kind of they're a, little bit deeper but,

752
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: they're playing. Linebacker you KNOW and.

753
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 3: So i wonder if we should give that a name

754
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 3: before maybe just like should we. Just name it It's

755
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 3: like a.

756
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: BRONCO or something. I don't know we'll have to. Think

757
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: about it workshop we'll give that pis just, off the

758
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: cuff YOU know. What i mean you.

759
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 3: CAN'T like that i, Got, it here okay maybe.

760
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 2: The, spear position.

761
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: Oh that's a nice tip of, the spear yeah.

762
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 2: A little bit That's a good Washington. Keeps, it washington.

763
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 3: Yeah that's right if everybody, else calls it we Can

764
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 3: say it's washington that came. Up, With, It okay yeah

765
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 3: so why don't we throw up? Some names here if

766
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 3: anybody's going to go in at number seven, from this

767
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 3: group it's Going To.

768
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 2: Be caleb downs do you want to talk about his?

769
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 3: Film real quick because just at, that number, seven because

770
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 3: again there's a real possibility that you could do.

771
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 2: Anything At seven caleb downs could. BE your picking i

772
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 2: think it's.

773
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: Good to talk about him, because this group much like the,

774
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: tight end group tested, off the charts and the difference

775
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: between this group and the, tight end group the safety

776
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: in the tight end group is that the number one

777
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: tight end ran. And ran well so it's easy to.

778
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: Talk About. Him caleb downs do? You forget right we talked.

779
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: About the interviews that's we don't get. TO see that

780
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: i think the thing with HIM is like i was walking,

781
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: down the street bumped INTO somebody that i used to,

782
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: used to coach, we head coach and he goes we

783
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: Talked Talking, about caleb downs and he couldn't stop, talking

784
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: about him like just the FOOTBALL player and i think

785
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: you've talked about that and you're you're. JUST a guy i,

786
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 1: can See it AND i'm and i. Played tight end

787
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: and When You, watch, ohio state, like there's something there's

788
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: something when you watch, a, football player right and there's

789
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: a physical there's an urgency to the spot and there's

790
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 1: a physical violence when you get there that. Not Everybody

791
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 1: Has and caleb. Downs, Has It.

792
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 2: Yeah washington vans you want to know? Who Had That.

793
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 3: Was london fletcher just Think About how Caleb Downs. Isn't

794
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 3: London fletcher, but, i'm saying like Think About how london

795
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 3: fletcher was, so just immediate. Pinpoint go Violently That's how caleb.

796
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 1: Down plays and the and the and. It's the recognition

797
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: it's like IT'S. The FOOTBALL iq like i use this

798
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: term with. THE utmost respect i don't use. It for

799
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: everybody he is. A football player he understands the the.

800
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: Concepts he's seeing he instinctively sees run and. Pass very

801
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 1: well he and then he. Reacts, to it right there's guys, That,

802
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: are fast right there's guys that all. These guys ran

803
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: this is one of The fastest safety this is the

804
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 1: fast safe group in the history of the combine today

805
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: that we. Saw it. Yesterday fastest, group they instinctively they

806
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,439
Speaker 1: don't react the way they need to. All THE time

807
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,720
Speaker 1: and i think that's the thing that is just. Different

808
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: about him like you cut the tape on And it's

809
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: like i'm, Playing the nickel i'm playing that DIME spot and.

810
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 1: I see run there's not like, there's no hesitation. There's

811
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: no flinch but in, THE same breath i can also

812
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,760
Speaker 1: regard THE screen like i can recognize the difference between

813
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: those things. In a moment and that's what, makes him special.

814
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: Isn't his, recognition he's, physical HE'S tough and i am a,

815
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 1: little bit concerned kind Of, Like Rubyen Bain like ruben brain's.

816
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: A excellent football i'm a little bit concerned about the lack.

817
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 1: Of ideal length i'm concerned how. He's gonna run but

818
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: part of me just the film Is. Like ruben bain

819
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: there's questions. On the film i've, talked about them like

820
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 1: it does they? Have elite power ALL those. Things I

821
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 1: don't there's i've rarely, watched. A prospect right i've been

822
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: like your film is just THAT good where i don't

823
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: really care, what the yeah what the other stuff is

824
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 1: and that's KIND of how i feel about him and

825
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: why a lot of people m as the best player.

826
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 3: Of, the DRAFT yeah and i mean the the measurements,

827
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 3: like the, height the weight like it's not. They're not

828
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 3: bad but if it's, a little bigger we're not having

829
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,280
Speaker 3: these conversations like it's.

830
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 2: Just a little a.

831
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 3: Little bit more but, like you said when you turn

832
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 3: on the tape, and he's covering who's the tight? END

833
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 3: for ME i think i Think. It, was, michigan yeah

834
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 3: yes six, and a half. Right And sixty caleb, downs, is,

835
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 3: like nah yeah like it doesn't that you don't see, the,

836
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 3: Height difference right like. It Doesn't matter caleb, Downs, is like.

837
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 3: Nope you're lockdown there's nothing that can happen even though you're,

838
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,280
Speaker 3: bigger Than me because i'm just. Smarter Than you i'm

839
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 3: i'm just able to attack the ball.

840
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 2: In different.

841
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 3: Way i'm violent there's, just you say this guy knows how,

842
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 3: to play football and it's just it's. Instinctive.

843
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: To it Yeah and he so the Other Thing is

844
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: london Fletcher's A huge. OHIO state fan i Was Talking.

845
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 1: About caleb, downs he's like did you know that He

846
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: Started for nick saban as a, freshman and yeah so you're,

847
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: eighteen years old You're Going to alabama like That was

848
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: When nick sabans, nick sab peak they're the peak. Of

849
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: their powers and he starts in a VERY in an.

850
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: Nfl complicated defense he's been. In multiple systems He, started

851
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: for PATRICIA who's an, Nfl, defensive coordinator like he just

852
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: feels like, an extremely safe high floor prospect.

853
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 3: That's immediately going to make. Your Defense better correct and

854
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 3: it's not just in his play, on the field, it's

855
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 3: his mentality, it's his preparation.

856
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 1: It's his communication and again we talked about like We,

857
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: talked To dane and dane, talks To everybody and, dane

858
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: was like the two people have interviewed the, best so

859
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: far our Sunny styles. And, caleb downs yeah and, so

860
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: to me like your check all we talked about the

861
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: triangle like he's, winning the combine but we might, not

862
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: feel that YOU know, What i mean absolutely we. Won't

863
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 1: see it fans, won't see it but the people that

864
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:49,240
Speaker 1: are making those decisions.

865
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 3: Will, feel, it yeah absolutely, so all right that's if

866
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 3: there's going to be a safety, at number seven that's

867
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 3: going to be, the guy now let's talk about some

868
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 3: of these other guys that are potential options when you

869
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 3: start getting into.

870
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 2: The later rounds who Stood, out the.

871
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 1: So just to be fair, to EVERYBODY here like i

872
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: came away from the field stuff yesterday, just, being like

873
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: damn like this is a good physically a. Very impressive

874
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: group like they. Moved REALLY well like i just damn.

875
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: Was my thought the thing IS is like i have

876
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 1: not watched a lot like. So it's funny we talked, about,

877
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: OUR sheet right i was putting Guys from the combine

878
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 1: on our sheet that weren't on. The sheet before so

879
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 1: we've watched a lot of guys for safety that. Aren't

880
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: on there the one guy For Me is bud clark

881
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 1: because he was the first guy to go on a

882
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 1: lot of the DRILLS, from From Tcu, the movement skills

883
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 1: the BALL. Production at tcu. THE film's good i think

884
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 1: HE'S a good i don't think he's. A great tacker he's.

885
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: A good tackler a, little bit, skinny you know he's

886
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 1: like one hundred and eighty eight hundred, And NINETY pounds

887
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 1: but i just love. WHAT he's about i love how

888
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,919
Speaker 1: we handle this Stuff At The Senior Bowl trade anne

889
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: stukes like someone turned me on him last week, kind,

890
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: of said hey did you check? This guy out he

891
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: runs a four, to three today doesn't do anything else

892
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,439
Speaker 1: because he kind of twakeks his handy on The. Run

893
00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 1: from arizona arizona has four, interceptions last season and he

894
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: Has One, versus arizona state which is it looks like.

895
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: A corner playing he's it's. A box fade he boxes,

896
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: the guy out makes it just a tremendous interception in

897
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: the reds in. The red zone. REALLY uh fantastic Aj.

898
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: FOUR Three yeah aj halsey is Kind of this he's

899
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,479
Speaker 1: he's one of the. Heavier safeties here, he's six foot

900
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 1: he's two fifteen lsu kind of. A box player but

901
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: ran okay ran like a, four or five and just

902
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: the physical mindset that he brings. IS really impressive A

903
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: guy that i want to go back, and watch right like,

904
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 1: right THIS second. If I. Could is Vj Pain from

905
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 1: kansas state six three and, a half right thirty two inch.

906
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 1: ARMS two ten i think you're in a.

907
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,720
Speaker 2: Four to Four thirty, three and dude what three? Fourths

908
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 2: in song?

909
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 3: Like?

910
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 2: That is what?

911
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 3: Like?

912
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 1: That is what at two hundred pounds that's crazy, talk

913
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: right there and he ran fast right, four TO four,

914
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 1: SO i. WANT i don't i, didn't see him but

915
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,240
Speaker 1: he on this list that they Put out post combine

916
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: where it's like where the, guys are ranked he's like.

917
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,320
Speaker 1: The FIFTEENTH guy like i don't think will be the.

918
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,240
Speaker 1: Fifteenth guy anymore but if you're picking someone, at seventy

919
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: one the fifteenth safety usually goes in. The, fifth round

920
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: like if you're picking in, the fifth round you want

921
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: a guy with some upside that feels like the, move

922
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: to me so lots Of good for and again that

923
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: was THE thing is i came out of this thing

924
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: going like these safeties maybe they don't have a great

925
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: production grade because what they're being asked to do in

926
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: college is. So so challenging and again like the Other,

927
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: Guy from Iowa, Xavier no wakpa i'm Gonna that's how

928
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 1: i'm gonna, go For. It mi wakpa but big tall,

929
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: dude ran well moved excellent in the field work and

930
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: in terms of body, frame and size like feels like

931
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 1: a perfect guy to fit in kind OF any only

932
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: i think it was, hurt THIS year so i think

933
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 1: only played. In four games but to see those guys

934
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: that are moved that way and, have those instincts and

935
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: the year prior had. REALLY great production i just want

936
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: to go watch watch them again and kind of get

937
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: a better.

938
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 3: Feel, FOR it absolutely i this was. A good group it's,

939
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 3: fun to watch. Very good, Group all right let's move on,

940
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 3: to the cornerbacks and they're were a.

941
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 2: Lot of them there were a.

942
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: Lot of cornerbacks there. Are every year there's a lot of,

943
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: CORNERBACKS because, like i mean that's the way college, football, Is,

944
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: Going right.

945
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 3: YEAH and what i want to say is just, by

946
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 3: watching them is there's something that's happening to This draft,

947
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 3: that i'm like we still have two more, days of

948
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 3: this but it seems like There is a it's almost

949
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 3: like everybody is kind of it's hard to differentiate once

950
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 3: you get past the like these are the top guys and,

951
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 3: then everybody else. It's it's there they all. Moved very

952
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 3: well almost all of them. Were very smooth they like

953
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 3: they have very they. Have long arms there's not anybody

954
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 3: that sticks out that's got like little alligator. Arms out

955
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,439
Speaker 3: there like it's just everybody's. Got the build everybody's got

956
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 3: a little bit. Of the movement so you start seeing them,

957
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 3: and you're like you start nitpicking this year more than

958
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 3: any others with just WATCHING how they i think.

959
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: You have to and, in this group, SO the safeties

960
00:41:58,160 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: i felt like there wasn't a lot of. DISCREPANCY the

961
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: title i felt like this was THE group where i

962
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: felt like you could kind you could kind of tell

963
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 1: like the fader was turned up a little bit in

964
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 1: terms of LIKE that's an, nfl football player that's maybe a.

965
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: BACKUP rotational guy i FELT like when i watched.

966
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 2: It was the. Difference IN that so i just FELT like.

967
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: When, i was, Watching You, know avian terrell like, he

968
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 1: didn't run but he did, the field work like the

969
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: way he was in, his back pedal the, sharpness of,

970
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: it the turning the way he Tracked the football like

971
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: that was. A big one when they did the, ball

972
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: tracking drill you know when they do like it's like,

973
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: backpedal turn left back, pedal turn right and then you

974
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:35,959
Speaker 1: break and you run it like a forty five degree

975
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 1: angle and the balls over the shoulder and they have

976
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: a coach that says like ball and you turn and

977
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: you try. To CATCH it like i just felt like

978
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: the guys that were supposed to like, that are names

979
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: So Like, your Colton Hood. Your chris, JOHNSON you know

980
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: I just mentioned terrell just moved a little bit differently

981
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 1: in that department than some of, the OTHER guys and i, was,

982
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: just like okay and it just made, note, Of it

983
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: right it just was like that guy's a, find football

984
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: player this, Corner, From Wherever kansas southern. State or whatever

985
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: but like some of these guys just move a, Little

986
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: Bit Differently, LIKE colton hoood i thought was a. Little

987
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: bit stiff, and you know one, of the feedback one

988
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 1: of THE things that i made a note OF was

989
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: like i feel like he does a really good job

990
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: attacking downhill to the football and so again when some

991
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,720
Speaker 1: of the stuff over the shoulder a, little bit stiff

992
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: but when he's like doing the w drill, like backpedal,

993
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 1: click backpedal click his clicking. Clothes is great and THEN

994
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: his hands i was. REALLY impressed with i. Caught the

995
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: football So That, in chris johnson like The Cornerback From,

996
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 1: san diego state like the like how smooth his feet

997
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 1: were and the. Way he caught he dropped a, bunch

998
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: of footballs but like just his. Feet were excellent and

999
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 1: so those were the things that kind of popped to

1000
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: me just watching was like those guys kind of seemed to.

1001
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: Set themselves apart and there's some other names WE'LL mention

1002
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: that i thought. Had good days but those guys that

1003
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: were supposed, to be good those top three guys in,

1004
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: THE field work i thought really did.

1005
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 3: A good job so the top corner that's supposed to

1006
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 3: Be Here. IS mansword delaine a lot of people have

1007
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 3: them in his top.

1008
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 2: Top. Their top boards as, far as CORNERS.

1009
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 3: He's from lsu didn't run and he didn't, test here

1010
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 3: correct so we didn't really get to see anything. From

1011
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 3: him there he'll do THAT at his bro day and

1012
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 3: in an upcoming episode we're gonna do our. Top ten

1013
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 3: corners we'll really break him down there and tell you

1014
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 3: why we are is because we haven't really dived in

1015
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 3: too much in the film with corners yet because it's

1016
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 3: as you, as you know hard to. Do, it right

1017
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 3: yeah so this is one of the last groups. We

1018
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 3: always do But We'll have fred smooth join us in.

1019
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,959
Speaker 3: That show too he's very helpful because he actually. Played

1020
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,240
Speaker 3: the position so we're gonna kind Of Move past manswer

1021
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 3: delaine even though he's the big name here because he

1022
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 3: didn't he didn't do anything here other than the things we're,

1023
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 3: not privy to the medicals. And the interviews so then

1024
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 3: let's logan go into who are some of the guys

1025
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,399
Speaker 3: that you, Think, are like okay let's put let's put

1026
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 3: a little sticker on this name here so we can

1027
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 3: go back and we can. Look at him we can

1028
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 3: see maybe this is this is a nice little deep

1029
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 3: deep dive for us that we can do in.

1030
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: These, later ROUNDS yes So I, Mentioned chris johnson he's

1031
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 1: not gonna be a. Later On Guy but Dalen everett

1032
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 1: from georgia was a guy that stuck. Out to me

1033
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: he ran a four. Three eight forty, he's six foot

1034
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 1: he's like two. Hundred ISH pounds and i watched him

1035
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,240
Speaker 1: of His, film At georgia and george is tough because

1036
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 1: like they play a lot, of HIS own but i felt

1037
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:16,280
Speaker 1: like he had. Pretty good instincts, his feet, were he's

1038
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: bigger he's a, little bit tight but like the. Physicality

1039
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: was there and again a guy got to watch more

1040
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 1: of but feels like a really good football player that

1041
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: not a lot of people. Are talking about another guy

1042
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 1: that caught MY eye that i watched this morning Actually

1043
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: Was to Caario, Davis from washington so. Really interesting prospect

1044
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: he ran a four to. Four to one he's, six

1045
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: foot four he's got thirty three and three. Eights inch

1046
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: arms He's just a he looked like a spider on, the,

1047
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 1: field yesterday right and when we have a, Corner, that,

1048
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: tall like again there's some stuff with the backpedal that's.

1049
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: A little tight but when you, watch the film like

1050
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,959
Speaker 1: when he gets his hands on people in, press man

1051
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: like he does a really good job staying, attached and

1052
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: engaged but also doesn't like. Pull, and stress right he

1053
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: has really. Good ball production in twenty twenty three he had,

1054
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 1: fifteen pass breakups, so very solid, consistent football player but

1055
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: only played five, games last year was a little. Bit

1056
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 1: nicked up, really interesting prospect and. IT was funny i

1057
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: Was watching watching minnesota tape, this morning Too, like with

1058
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 1: flores to kind of get a feel, for THE defense and,

1059
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: i was like this would be an interesting fit because

1060
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: they play all this zero coverage where you're in man

1061
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 1: and you're pressed and you're off coverage and you're kind

1062
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: of working downhill, to the football and his length just

1063
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 1: uncovers so much, stuff for you so put a star. Next.

1064
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 1: To that interesting dan used to love the. Tall on

1065
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 1: corners does? It fit exactly, not SURE anymore, but i

1066
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: thought like, just watching him he played a lot. Of

1067
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: his own he plays with, a good vision interesting prospect

1068
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: because he tested so well.

1069
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 3: For, HIS size Yeah i was you started answering THE

1070
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 3: question that i was, about to ask. And that's okay

1071
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 3: so he's good at press me and how much press?

1072
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 3: Man we run it like we don't know that all

1073
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 3: teams run a lot? Of press, Man it's, true, so

1074
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 3: yeah okay he's good At press me and why is that?

1075
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 3: Important for watching and you. Just answered it you were

1076
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 3: Looking at what minnesota does Because That's where deroanto, jones

1077
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 3: comes from and it's a, lot of zero a lot,

1078
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 3: of press man.

1079
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 1: And They do, off MAN two which i don't think is.

1080
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: Quite AS good but i DO think when i, was

1081
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: watching him because they play a lot of zone at

1082
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 1: you dub right like it was he's playing with through

1083
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 1: the receiver with vision, of the quarterback which is what

1084
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: they do a Lot. Of in minnesota so if you

1085
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: wanted a guy that you're, going to insulate because he's, not,

1086
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,760
Speaker 1: For everybody right he's not, like this, great super sudden

1087
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: click and closed, type, of guy right and there are

1088
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 1: times where he gets lost to the line of scrimmage

1089
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 1: if he doesn't get his. Hands, On, you right like

1090
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 1: he's not, a perfect prospect and which means to me

1091
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: he's probably going to fall down the board a little

1092
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 1: bit because he's not everyone's. Cup of tea but in,

1093
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: the right situation if you know what, he Does well

1094
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,399
Speaker 1: and dan always, TALKS about that i think you, could

1095
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 1: maximize them especially with.

1096
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 2: That, find their superpower maximize especially with.

1097
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:48,919
Speaker 1: That athletic profile and the Other One Is, ephesians price

1098
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: sock who we talked About From. The senior bowl, But

1099
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 1: to me i'm, gonna say this this is. Not a

1100
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,919
Speaker 1: negative just from, a frame standpoint reminds me a Little

1101
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: Bit Of, Benjamin saint Truce like tall long has really

1102
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: not placed on how he, how he looks and he's,

1103
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 1: got excellent feet much More sudden THAN davis that i.

1104
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 1: Just talked ABOUT and so, i, was like man these

1105
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 1: both THESE guys that u doub are good football players and.

1106
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: They tested well pricetock ran at. FOUR four five i

1107
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 1: think he, jumped WELL too if. I remember correctly so

1108
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: really interesting prospects, from a physic like when they it's

1109
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 1: always funny when you're GOING through the dB drills and

1110
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 1: all of a sudden a guy who six's four and

1111
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 1: then a guy who sixty three pops up, and you're

1112
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: like who heck? Are those guys and then to go

1113
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 1: watch the film and be. Like these guys davis does

1114
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: have some physical limitations because he's, so damn tall but price.

1115
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: SOCK footspeed's excellent i thought he again did Well At

1116
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: the senior bowl with some stuff in terms, of being

1117
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 1: competitive like what's your role and talk about superpowers AND

1118
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: guys that i think will be down the board a

1119
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: little bit because. Again they're not they're not PERFECTLY SHAPED

1120
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: for nfl dB ARE guys that i just wanted to.

1121
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 1: Call attention TO another guy i just wanted, To, mention,

1122
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 1: Was Oh gosh marcus allen from uh where? What school

1123
00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: IS let's see i can find. Him real quick he,

1124
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 1: Ran A yeah Marcus Salace. FROM north carolina i don't

1125
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: know anything. About him nothing he was the guy that

1126
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 1: did every drill first at the. COMBINE and long i

1127
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: thought it, was incredibly smooth a little bit slower, four

1128
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: or five but not over threshold and A guy that, i,

1129
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: was like man maybe with the in the right fit because,

1130
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: of his length because, of his instincts. Would, be good

1131
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: again this is all based on the. Field work yesterday

1132
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: it could be a. Nice fit here having fun at. The,

1133
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: combine living gosh it's. So much fun it's just so many.

1134
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: People like you just during, the draft process you just,

1135
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: forget there's, like you know a thousand, guys, coming out

1136
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:36,879
Speaker 1: right and so there's three hundred and, eighteen guys here

1137
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 1: and then we, watched you know one hundred and fifty

1138
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 1: Guys For. The senior bowl one hundred and fifty guys

1139
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 1: Were At, the shrine bowl and all, of a sudden your,

1140
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: list is, like you know five. Hundred people deep just

1141
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 1: like there's not enough hours in the day to watch

1142
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 1: all these players. All THE time so i can't wait

1143
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 1: to get into the DB's a. Little bit again, safeties

1144
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 1: were fun tight. Ends are fun had more familiarity. With

1145
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: those groups but corners are going to be really interesting

1146
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: because if you look at the top, Guys right answer delane,

1147
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 1: didn't run today but the Other guy from tennessee coming,

1148
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: off an injury didn't really play like it's it's just

1149
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: a really interesting group because there's not This True one,

1150
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: nickoy tennessee McCoy. That's exactly right he, didn't run today,

1151
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:17,320
Speaker 1: so it's like what's. Going on there so just TV's,

1152
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,399
Speaker 1: are always interesting they're always, HARD to, Evaluate I think

1153
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 1: so i can't wait to get into that a.

1154
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 3: Little, bit more absolutely today is a big day at

1155
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 3: The combine for commanders fans because. Quarterbacks are going we don't,

1156
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 3: really you Know we Have, Jad and daniels, we're fine

1157
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 3: there but it's the running backs and it's. The wide

1158
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 3: receivers and there's a lot Of Talk about jeremiah love,

1159
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:37,879
Speaker 3: Potentially Number seven carnel tait. AT number seven i don't

1160
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 3: know if he's. DOING drills today i think he.

1161
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 1: SAID he was i think A, lot of, yeah, WE'LL

1162
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:42,800
Speaker 1: see man. I Can't wait.

1163
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:46,399
Speaker 3: Jordan Tyson isn't but lemon will be OUT There, from

1164
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 3: usc like there's gonna be a lot of good ball

1165
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:53,240
Speaker 3: players out there that are going to be really intriguing for, that, top.

1166
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:56,240
Speaker 1: Ten absolutely and in the top ten seventy one too interesting,

1167
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: In seventy, one.

1168
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,280
Speaker 2: Oh yeah absolutely especially. With wide receivers especially.

1169
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 3: With wide receiver so tomorrow we will have a podcast

1170
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 3: coming out recapping, all of that the wide receivers and.

1171
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 3: The running backs we'll talk a little bit quarterback talk

1172
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 3: for just those that are listeners that are not why

1173
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 3: but uh logan like let's let's. Get after it it's

1174
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 3: about to. Start over there we need to.

1175
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 1: Walk, on over yes we, gotta go on but. Today

1176
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 1: that's it