WEBVTT - Part One: King Leopold II: The First Modern Bastard 

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, friends, and welcome back to Behind the Bastards, the

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<v Speaker 1>show where we tell you everything you don't know about

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<v Speaker 1>the very worst people in history. On this show, we

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<v Speaker 1>cover monsters like Adolf Hitler, Saddam Hussein, Eric, Prince Will Wheaton,

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<v Speaker 1>and today's topic, King Leopold. But before we get to

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<v Speaker 1>King Leopold, I'd like to introduce my guest for the week,

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew T host of YO is this racist in general

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<v Speaker 1>man about town? Hello Andrew, what's up? Well? Today we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about a little Belgian dude named Leopold. You've ever

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<v Speaker 1>heard of King Leopold of Belgium. Uh? Not particularly King

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<v Speaker 1>Leopold the Second, If that makes it. Yeah, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like the closest I'm gonna come is. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>at some point I got a box of fancy chocolates

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<v Speaker 1>that might have had a Leopold. Maybe not the bad Leopold.

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<v Speaker 1>I assume a good Leopold. This is not a good Leopold. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>probably not this particularly Leopold. Yeah. Uh. Leopold the Second

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<v Speaker 1>was King of Belgium once upon of time, and he was,

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<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, the first world leader to be truly

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<v Speaker 1>shitty in the modern sense of the word. Like like

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<v Speaker 1>like the kind of shitty that like Putin and Trump

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<v Speaker 1>right right right, so not right, we're discounting our Genghis

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<v Speaker 1>Khans and yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because Genghis Khan like

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<v Speaker 1>did what he did, but he didn't have like a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of newspapers, did he. He was just like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna conquer some ship, right right right. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>transition from barbarian bastards into media bastards exactly. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think Leopold of Belgium is really where it happens in

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<v Speaker 1>a modern like obviously other people had toyed with aspects

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<v Speaker 1>of this. He really nailed it. Uh So King Leopold

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<v Speaker 1>the Seconds dad was obviously King Leopold the First, uh

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<v Speaker 1>and he was the first king of Belgium. Not obvious?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that? Is it always like a like one piguets

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<v Speaker 1>two or is it like a your grandfather was Leopold

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<v Speaker 1>the first, I'm Gerald of Belgium, but you're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>Leopold too. I think that's more how it happens most

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<v Speaker 1>of the time, not this time. This time, Leopold the

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<v Speaker 1>First was like this went so well, yeah, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have at the second. Um so Leopold the First was

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<v Speaker 1>like the again, the very first king of Belgium at all,

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<v Speaker 1>because Belgium had just been made a thing in the

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<v Speaker 1>wake from the Napoleonic Wars. So during the whole fighting

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<v Speaker 1>between Napoleon and everyone else in Europe, Belgium was generally

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<v Speaker 1>the battleground, where like the everyone would sort of duke

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<v Speaker 1>it out between the Germans and the French and the

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<v Speaker 1>French and everybody else. Yet Waterloo was in Belgium. So

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<v Speaker 1>after Napoleon's but gets kicked, the European powers who win

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<v Speaker 1>are like, okay, we can't have France and Germany fighting

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<v Speaker 1>over Belgium forever. We're gonna make it its own thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And since it was going to be a new country,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously it needed a king um so they Leopold the

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<v Speaker 1>First got the job because he was a German prince

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<v Speaker 1>who didn't have a kingdom of his own, okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>it was just like split off, right, this is like

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to give Megan Marcole Whales or whatever or

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<v Speaker 1>part of Wales. Yeah, part of Whales, yeah, yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>that exactly that sort of thing. They actually tried him

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<v Speaker 1>out to be king of Greece first, but he didn't like,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't fit for whatever. Yeah, that's an option. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>find you with something, buddy, don't worry leap. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna put you in a kingdom. Greece isn't the

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<v Speaker 1>right one. Yeah, of course you try a starter kingdom.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone has a kingdom to start. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, Greece

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<v Speaker 1>was his unsold pilot. Yeah. Um. And he was, by

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<v Speaker 1>all accounts, a pretty good king of Belgium if you're

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<v Speaker 1>into that sort of thing. Yeah. Um, waffles, waffles and

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<v Speaker 1>chocolate and pocolate, getting by beer, yeah, great beer, getting

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<v Speaker 1>jammed by the Germs, great beer. Great at getting jammed

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<v Speaker 1>by the Germans. That's Belgium in a nutshell. Um. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he was a good king. While he was king. Midway

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<v Speaker 1>through his reign in eighteen forty eight, there was like

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<v Speaker 1>this big year of revolutions all across Europe, and all

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<v Speaker 1>these European countries had their monarchs overthrown except for Belgium.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's the Christian spring we call that, Yes, the

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<v Speaker 1>white white Man's springs, that's the lad three hundred years.

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<v Speaker 1>What a time, what a time for the whites, given

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<v Speaker 1>up for the whites. Yeah um so Leopold the first

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<v Speaker 1>solid King. I've got two main sources for today's podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>which I shouldn't note now. The first is a biography

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<v Speaker 1>called Leopold, the Second King of Belgium. Uh. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>pro monarchist book that was written in nineteen ten um.

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<v Speaker 1>The article is critical about Leopold sometimes, but he thinks

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<v Speaker 1>he was like a great king and he thinks kings

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<v Speaker 1>are a good idea. So it's an interesting book because

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<v Speaker 1>it gives you an idea of how Leopold himself would

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<v Speaker 1>sort of present himself and defend himself and let you

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<v Speaker 1>know what the propaganda at the time was well, and

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<v Speaker 1>also write just critical enough to be legitimate. Well, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's totally I guess for the time it wasn't bad.

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<v Speaker 1>What I mean is the you put it in just

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<v Speaker 1>the faintest of criticism to give the exactly you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a real investigation. Yeah, it's like the monarch's

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<v Speaker 1>equivalent of one of those like celebrity biographies out of

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Affleck or whatever. Yeah. Yeah, the Heraldo Interview of

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<v Speaker 1>books exactly right, exactly. And then the other book is

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<v Speaker 1>a book called King Leopold's Ghost by Adam hosh Child,

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<v Speaker 1>which takes the stance that Leopold was one of history's

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<v Speaker 1>great monsters. Anyway, So these are these are most of

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<v Speaker 1>what I come from, a sort of the contrasting views

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<v Speaker 1>that these two books. Person, you read two books for

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast, Get out of your mind. Come on, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to dig into here, and there's not a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>You're making me feel real bad. I'm like, usually good

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<v Speaker 1>for half a Wikipedia article. Holy sh it, well this

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<v Speaker 1>is at least the equivalent of like four Wikipedia articles. Jeez,

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead, alright. So Leopold the seconds Mom Louise was

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<v Speaker 1>almost a love match is the term the book uses

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<v Speaker 1>for his dad, the King Um And it says this

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<v Speaker 1>because the king was already in love with her before

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<v Speaker 1>they get married. That makes it a love match. He

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<v Speaker 1>liked her when she was fourteen, so it's love. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there were hell of it, and she had the right land.

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<v Speaker 1>She had some nice land. I'm related to the right

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<v Speaker 1>enemies she was with I think from the Orleone family,

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<v Speaker 1>so she was like she had some solid ass royal pedigree.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you get some German from King Leopold the first,

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<v Speaker 1>you get a little bit of French from his wife

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<v Speaker 1>and then their baby is sort of a mix. So

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<v Speaker 1>maybe Germany and France won't fight over belgimin what a

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<v Speaker 1>brave Yeah, didn't war? Yeah. So Leopold the second was

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<v Speaker 1>born Leopold Louis Philippe Mary Victor. Uh, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>his parents second child. His older brother died eleven months

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<v Speaker 1>before he was born. Um, so if you think about

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<v Speaker 1>that timeline a lot, it's not very fun. Because Leopold's

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<v Speaker 1>older brothers born, he dies eleven months later, they pop

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<v Speaker 1>out another son, Yeah, immediately, immediately, not a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>morning time, or maybe they just kind of, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>fun the pain away. But yeah, yeah, that's probably would happened.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the optimistic look. Um. Alright, So at age five,

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<v Speaker 1>Leopold's father declared him Duke of Brabant, which is how

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<v Speaker 1>he was addressed right up until his coronation. Uh he

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<v Speaker 1>said five, age five, Yeah, age five, Yeah you can

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<v Speaker 1>you'll have to be a duke at age five. And

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<v Speaker 1>he looks he looks like he looks like people in

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<v Speaker 1>this pretty little duke. We'll have the pictures up on

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<v Speaker 1>our website. He has no chin um and a kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a lopsided face. But maybe that's just the painting

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<v Speaker 1>looks a little bit like a ghost, like a human ghost.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks like the painting of a ghost that you

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<v Speaker 1>find in the basement of an old house. And then

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<v Speaker 1>like there's a rush of wind and the camera falls over,

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<v Speaker 1>and like your friend gets mauled by a spirit. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's this guy's selfie essentially. Yeah, that's this guy's like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the image we want to put out into

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<v Speaker 1>the world. Yeah, this was like hanging in palaces. So

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<v Speaker 1>he looks like a creeper from day a little spooky boy,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's still a baby. Um. So, the biography notes

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<v Speaker 1>that Leopold and his siblings were brought up in quote

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<v Speaker 1>the simplest manner and taught to behave as if they

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<v Speaker 1>were normal citizens rather than noryalty. That sounds great until

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<v Speaker 1>you get to the next part quote. The king further

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<v Speaker 1>expressed the wish to develop in the children the sentiment

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<v Speaker 1>of duty and not to allow them to have an

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<v Speaker 1>opinion of their own with regard to their duties and

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<v Speaker 1>their studies. Um. Basically, the king was trying to crush

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<v Speaker 1>the individuality of his kids so that they would just

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<v Speaker 1>fit the role of king. That's kind of yeah, good

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<v Speaker 1>actually is it in that? Well what else are you

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do? Because I got to do this dumb job? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you could try to make them be healthy,

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<v Speaker 1>fully formed people. Yeah, but why then they got to

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<v Speaker 1>be king? Yeah? Well okay, that's fair. I mean you

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<v Speaker 1>were taking Leopold the first side. Yeah, well he's the

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<v Speaker 1>good one again, I'm probably this chocolate. Um No, but right,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't that the he's He's he's just as trapped as

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<v Speaker 1>everyone else, you know, Yes, so if he's got to

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<v Speaker 1>do this thing, you might as well make it so

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<v Speaker 1>he can do this thing. Okay, So you're expressing some

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<v Speaker 1>motivation maybe two, why you would do this, why you

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<v Speaker 1>would do what he winds up doing, and you don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know what he winds up doing do? Yeah? What

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<v Speaker 1>did I just defend? We are still? Let me just

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<v Speaker 1>say right now, whatever he does, I stand behind it. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he kills about ten to fifteen million people. Yeah, it's fine. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Well what's it? Um? So when Leopold is fifteen, his

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<v Speaker 1>mom dies of some illness or another. It's one of

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<v Speaker 1>those things where the writers at the time aren't specific.

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<v Speaker 1>They're just like she took ill and was secret and

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<v Speaker 1>then she and then she dies, Like, yeah, it's probably

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<v Speaker 1>dip theoria or some weird named the flue disease. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>would be a big deal, I guess. I mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>probably as a flu like that killed everybody back then. Um. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And King Leopold's ghost, Adam hosh Child, describes Leopold's childhood

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<v Speaker 1>as being kind of stark and cold. Quote, if Leopold

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to see his father, he had to apply for

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<v Speaker 1>an audience. When the father had something to tell the same,

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<v Speaker 1>he communicated it through one of his secretaries. I mean, look,

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<v Speaker 1>this is not just uh eighteenth century arrested element. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of kind of what's going on. Like, he

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<v Speaker 1>definitely has a buster Bluth vibe to him. Um again,

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<v Speaker 1>especially once you see this fucking painting, you'll get it audience.

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<v Speaker 1>The biography that was written at the time says that

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<v Speaker 1>it is worthy of note that the late king never

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<v Speaker 1>had any comrades or playmates. His childhood was passed among

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<v Speaker 1>his teachers and tutors, and the disciplinarian father made even

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<v Speaker 1>more the relationship with his brother and sister a very

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<v Speaker 1>formal one, frank childish gaiety and brotherly expansion and confidence

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<v Speaker 1>were banished. The princess thoughts thus became concentrated upon himself

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<v Speaker 1>and his natural activity and vitality, his exuberant strength were

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<v Speaker 1>expended on work and study. Tight yeah about it, No, friends,

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<v Speaker 1>does nothing but work. Yeah, he's a duke. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean he's already achieved a lot. I mean he has

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a boss baby. Yeah, just throwing that out there.

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<v Speaker 1>So he grows up, He serves in the Belgian military,

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<v Speaker 1>he apparently does okay. By his early twenties, Leopold becomes

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<v Speaker 1>an fluential figure in Belgian politics. You know, he's the

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<v Speaker 1>crown prince. Everyone who's going to wind him being king?

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<v Speaker 1>And he kind of looks a little like Adam Driver.

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<v Speaker 1>He yeah, he looks here, he looks like a anime

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<v Speaker 1>Adam Driver. Yeah. Yeah, that's who you would cast his

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<v Speaker 1>anime Adam Drive. Yeah yeah in the movie. So Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Like many rich young people, he traveled far and wide

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<v Speaker 1>in his early twenties. He went all throughout the Middle East,

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<v Speaker 1>North Africa, parts of Asia. But he was not traveling

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<v Speaker 1>for his enjoyment. Uh, he was basically traveling. The biography,

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<v Speaker 1>he says, it's like a commercial employee. So he was

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<v Speaker 1>essentially looking for financial opportunities for Belgium because this is

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<v Speaker 1>the period when all of Europe is colonizing the entire world.

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<v Speaker 1>Belgian doesn't have a colony. So he's traveling all around

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<v Speaker 1>the Middle East and Asia basically being like what can

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<v Speaker 1>who's yeah, who's like can we take? Yeah? Yeah, what

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<v Speaker 1>can we get? Does this hop ahead to the Congo? Oh? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>oh nice, Yeah, that's where we're headed. Tight, Okay, how

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<v Speaker 1>do I know that tiny bit of history. It's one

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<v Speaker 1>of those things that drops in every now and then

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<v Speaker 1>you'll hear like, oh, yeah, the Belgium's did something bad

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<v Speaker 1>in the Congo, but you don't ever get I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know any details story. In fact, I probably no more

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<v Speaker 1>plot points from Michael Crichton's The Congo than than realities

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<v Speaker 1>the Congo. Yes, I mean there's unconfirmed reports that he

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<v Speaker 1>he tried to find the lost city of Zinch but

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<v Speaker 1>no great movie. Is that what what they were doing there? Yeah? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're trying to find diamonds. That a monkey there's a

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<v Speaker 1>monkey city. Yeah, find diamonds and monkeys were evil. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's more what I remember. Solid to bed. There's a laser.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a laser. There's definitely a laser in that movie. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>what a weird it's a ride, Michael, We're still watching

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<v Speaker 1>his bullshit. I can't believe West World. Yeah, um okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So Prince Leopold, one of his favorite books as he's

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<v Speaker 1>a young man studying trying to find a new colony

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<v Speaker 1>for Belgium is a book about the Dutch East Indies

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<v Speaker 1>called Java, How to Manage Your Colony. Uh yeah, why

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<v Speaker 1>would you? Oh my god, I mean, I guess that's

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<v Speaker 1>why you have to tell people your favorite book is.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, that's well, no, I mean, because so the

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<v Speaker 1>book is all about how the Dutch colonized the island

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<v Speaker 1>of Java and how they got a shipload of coffee

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<v Speaker 1>and sugar and like dies and tobacco and it it

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<v Speaker 1>made basically made so much money that they were able

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<v Speaker 1>to buy a bunch of railroads and canals back in Holland. Um, so,

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<v Speaker 1>like the book is all about that. So so it

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<v Speaker 1>outlines sort of how they were able to monetize Java

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<v Speaker 1>so well, and like it talks about how the king

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<v Speaker 1>basically brought in a bunch of private companies and became

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<v Speaker 1>a major shareholder in those companies and it was the

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<v Speaker 1>company's job to farm the land and to produce the resources,

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<v Speaker 1>and they export them to Belgium. So the king didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have to send Dutch government workers over and do anything.

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<v Speaker 1>The king just said, I own Java corporations. Come in,

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<v Speaker 1>give me a steak in your profits, and do whatever

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<v Speaker 1>you want. I think it's just cool to have political

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<v Speaker 1>leaders also owned corporates. That has never been a problem

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<v Speaker 1>and never will be a problem. No, it seems to

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<v Speaker 1>always work out great. Um. It seems to work out

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<v Speaker 1>great percent of the time. Um. The book also did

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<v Speaker 1>note that the Dutch prophets in Java would have been

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<v Speaker 1>impossible without a huge amount of forced labor. Uh. And

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<v Speaker 1>young Prince Leopold agreed with this and said that forced

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<v Speaker 1>labor was quote the only way to civilize and uplift

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<v Speaker 1>these indolent and corrupt peoples of the far East. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he ain't wrong. Go ahead, what else? What else? God thought?

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<v Speaker 1>You said this guy was bad? Alright? Uh? So late

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<v Speaker 1>in his dukedom, you know, a few years before he

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<v Speaker 1>becomes king, Leopold gets in front of Belgium Senate and

0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:38.800
<v Speaker 1>he urges them to take up foreign colonies. So they

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<v Speaker 1>got a king and a senate. Yeah, that work so basically,

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<v Speaker 1>the King of Belgium is kind of a ceremonial figure.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got he's got more power than like the Queen

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<v Speaker 1>in England has today. It's heading towards, but it's heading

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<v Speaker 1>towards that. There's no formal power, lots of soft power,

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<v Speaker 1>lots of soft power in a little bit of formal power.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, you can't do things as the king like

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<v Speaker 1>us make colonies. M you can't do things as the

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<v Speaker 1>king likes in the army places. Um. And so Leopold's

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<v Speaker 1>dad seems to be okay with that. But Leopold the

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<v Speaker 1>second is growing up chopping at the bent to do

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<v Speaker 1>ship and doesn't want to become a monarch who just

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<v Speaker 1>waves at the crowd. Um, why not. So he gets

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<v Speaker 1>up in front of the Senate and he says, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>I am profoundly convinced of our vast resources, and I

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<v Speaker 1>passionately wish that my beautiful country would show the necessary

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<v Speaker 1>pluck to derive all the benefit which, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>it can derive. I think that the moment for our

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<v Speaker 1>expansion abroad has arrived. We must not lose time. Otherwise,

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<v Speaker 1>the best positions in markets which are becoming more rare.

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<v Speaker 1>Every day will be occupied by nations more enterprising than ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>And when he talks about positions in markets, he's talking

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<v Speaker 1>about whole countries and stuff. I mean, millions of people.

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<v Speaker 1>It's more chilling in the original Flemmish. Yeah yeah, yeah, nailed.

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<v Speaker 1>But although he probably would have been speaking just French

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<v Speaker 1>for alright, so well you can say, you can say

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<v Speaker 1>Walloon if you want. I'm getting what is that. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the other group of people. There's Belgium is made up

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<v Speaker 1>of Flemish people and Walloons. Yeah, the wall Unatics, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>band aid on their face. We got it. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>rough name to grow into the world stage taking on.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh well, you know, you gotta get you get enough rifles,

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<v Speaker 1>get enough cutlasses, everything starts to make sense. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it does. I feel like Germany was so

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<v Speaker 1>fierce in part because German is like, that's like an name,

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<v Speaker 1>like the Germans are coming. Imagine if if the name

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<v Speaker 1>got switched and the Belgians were called the Germans, and

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<v Speaker 1>like the Nazis had tried to invade and everyone was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>the Walloons are invading. Yeah, that's not gonna go. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Well listen let's boot up a risk game. We'll figure

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<v Speaker 1>it out, all right. Um so, yeah, Leopold, the first Leopold,

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<v Speaker 1>the seconds Dad died in December of eighteen sixty five,

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<v Speaker 1>the same year the American Civil War ended. Leopold is

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<v Speaker 1>now with the king and thirty years old. Uh. This

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<v Speaker 1>appears to be the point when he decided to grow

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<v Speaker 1>a gigantic mountain man beard tight, which he would maintain

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<v Speaker 1>for the rest of his Yeah. Well, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of pictures of Leopold with a beard. Will post him

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<v Speaker 1>on the site. Some of them look uncomfortably like me.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of them are clear missteps in the beard growing process,

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<v Speaker 1>where he's got like gigantic mutton chops and it's he

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<v Speaker 1>looks like a fucking hair octopus style of the time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he he went through some rough patches in his sartorial history,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. That's pretty that's get any easy kind of

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<v Speaker 1>we're looking at Yeah, that's a rough picture and almost

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<v Speaker 1>he's almost wearing bell bottoms in that picture. Hey, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the sixties. It is the eighteen sixties. Boom alright. Uh so, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Leopold the King of Belgium. He's super frustrated because the

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<v Speaker 1>King doesn't have that much in the way of power. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Leopold takes two sort of bocking the restrained role that

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<v Speaker 1>he has in Belgian politics. There's a story of like

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<v Speaker 1>this guy who came to visit him, uh, because like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the King's got a visit with like his

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<v Speaker 1>donors and benefactors and whatnot. And this guy complains about

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<v Speaker 1>the poor state of the roads around his property, and

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<v Speaker 1>Leopold interrupts him and says, I have no authority to

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<v Speaker 1>change the roads. You ought to address yourself to the press,

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<v Speaker 1>especially to the small papers. The municipality and the government

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<v Speaker 1>will do anything they ask. So he was like, he

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<v Speaker 1>was like making that point. I'm frustrated that, like I

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<v Speaker 1>can't do anything, so I'm just kinda like to take

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<v Speaker 1>it to the press. King is not allowed to do anything. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>He sort of set to work making himself into kind

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<v Speaker 1>of an image for the Belgian people. He was the

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<v Speaker 1>aristocratic equivalent of an alpha male. Uh. He spent a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of time doing science work and and and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>supporting the arts and sciences. Nineteenth century science is just

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<v Speaker 1>like beakers of lead and ship He's he's pouring colored

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<v Speaker 1>water into bakers. He's got goggles on, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>know how that goes. Yeah, there's a quote from his

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<v Speaker 1>biography that says he used to sleep in a camp

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<v Speaker 1>bed so like a military cot, and had a general

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<v Speaker 1>horror of everything that could innervate or render him a feminate.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's kind of like he's a proud boy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what they call people who aren't racist soy boys.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that right? Yeah, because eating soy feminizes you again, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what the that's all right thing? Yeah, um, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>well at least we know that they have a nice

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<v Speaker 1>historical antisy. Leopold would have been all about that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's he's growing a giant, weird beard, he's sleeping

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<v Speaker 1>in a palace in a military cot. He's scared of girls. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>he hates spending money. His biography says, quote his pocket

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<v Speaker 1>handkerchief was only renewed on Sunday mornings when going to Mass,

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<v Speaker 1>and on no account would he take another in the interval.

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<v Speaker 1>If his valet's changed his towels more than once a week,

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<v Speaker 1>they were sure to receive a good scolding from his majesty.

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<v Speaker 1>What So he's like a gross miser, Yeah, don't clean

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<v Speaker 1>those tells which one of those wasn't one of the

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<v Speaker 1>all right guys living in their mom's basement. I think

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<v Speaker 1>most of them are definitely Yeah, yeah that guy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>rouche Vie, the pickup artist guy that was found living

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<v Speaker 1>in his mom's basement. Literally, that's what this guy was.

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<v Speaker 1>Leopold was missing. Yeah, yeah, I guess the Beard. The

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<v Speaker 1>Beard experiment clearly on that factor. His mom died young,

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<v Speaker 1>so he became a king. Yeah yeah, instead, okay, called

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<v Speaker 1>peacocking everyone. How you interact women the kingdom? Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean having a castle is pretty solid peacocking Yeah, undeniable. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Leopold the Second was noted in his biography, is the

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<v Speaker 1>first king to treat his kingship as a corporate endeavor.

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<v Speaker 1>His primary concern was making money, not for Belgium, but

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<v Speaker 1>for himself. It was all about the bottom line. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's um Like when you talk about dictators and

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<v Speaker 1>warlords and terrorists, there's like a tendency to call them

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<v Speaker 1>side paths and sociopaths. Sociopath is like an actual medical diagnosis.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't think guys like Hitler or Stalin really

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<v Speaker 1>fit it, um because they all had histories of like

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<v Speaker 1>warm family life and like people who cared about them

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<v Speaker 1>and people that they like sacrificed for. At times, Leopold

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<v Speaker 1>might have been a straight up like yeah, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's what they say, right, is like so many

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<v Speaker 1>CEOs and fortune fid uh whatever. Then there corporately like

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<v Speaker 1>psychopathic traits. Yeah. Even his positive biography says that while

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<v Speaker 1>he was charming, he was quote devoid of enthusiasm and

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<v Speaker 1>set himself and was quite incapable of arousing any and others.

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<v Speaker 1>So he just can't unctually touch people's heart. He can't

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<v Speaker 1>motivate people. Um, so, yeah, we're gonna get more into

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<v Speaker 1>the soulless Leopold the second, his scheme to find a

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<v Speaker 1>colony and the colony that he eventually found. But for

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<v Speaker 1>we've got some ads. Of course, we all realized it's

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<v Speaker 1>a pro corporate podcast, so let's keep it real. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>some buying advice, and we're back. Uh, we're back. We're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about King Leopold, who is searching for a little

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<v Speaker 1>colony somewhere in the world to fill that whole of course. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Leopold the Deuce, Leopold to Electric Boogaloo whenever you want

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<v Speaker 1>to call him. We were just talking about what a soulless,

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<v Speaker 1>sociopathic creepy is. Yeah, allegedly. Well here's another quote again,

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<v Speaker 1>this is from like a positive pro Leopold biography that

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<v Speaker 1>he probably paid for. He disliked music, hunting, tobacco, and

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<v Speaker 1>had no taste for physical exercises except walking. Although a

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<v Speaker 1>frequent visitor at Austin, which is like one of his palaces,

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<v Speaker 1>he never learned to swim. He was seen yawning and

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<v Speaker 1>a gala performance of Faust. So he doesn't like plays.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't like art, he doesn't. He hates music like

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<v Speaker 1>it's a thing. Any book you read about him, anyone

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<v Speaker 1>who knew him. He hated music like not like he

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<v Speaker 1>hated popular music. Music itself was offensive to him. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's fascinating. Well that's cutting into the American psycho narrative. Yeah, unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah a little bit. Yeah, he's he's a weird guy.

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<v Speaker 1>He's very vain um. But his main vanity was quite odd.

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<v Speaker 1>He thought he had the most beautiful hands in all

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<v Speaker 1>of Europe, type his biography. What his biography notes. Another

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<v Speaker 1>of Leopold's hobbies was his dislike for gloves, and although

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<v Speaker 1>he often wore uniform he has never reported to have

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<v Speaker 1>put on gloves. It may have been a hatred of restraint,

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<v Speaker 1>but more probably it was a pardonable vanity on the

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<v Speaker 1>part of the late king, for he possessed the shapely

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<v Speaker 1>and beautiful hand of the Orleans family that rules so hard.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the only picture I could find hands. He's holding

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<v Speaker 1>the gloves in his hand, so his hand is not

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<v Speaker 1>even stra younger actually like reminding people you could be

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<v Speaker 1>wearing gloves. I'm the master of the his I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>in fairness to him, his hands are beautiful in this picture.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they just just look at the bone definition.

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<v Speaker 1>They are shapely. They're good ass hands. Yeah, they're good

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<v Speaker 1>ass hands. Oh man, So that means that he made

0:24:16.960 --> 0:24:21.320
<v Speaker 1>some painter or do multiple drafts on those hands. That's like,

0:24:21.560 --> 0:24:23.960
<v Speaker 1>this is like, isn't it wait, rest of development where

0:24:23.960 --> 0:24:27.879
<v Speaker 1>the guy has a fake hands, always, always always sunny,

0:24:27.880 --> 0:24:31.399
<v Speaker 1>always fake hands. Yeah, then there's some things to be

0:24:31.440 --> 0:24:35.600
<v Speaker 1>said about our president in hands. It's weird. It's it's

0:24:35.640 --> 0:24:37.840
<v Speaker 1>weird that you would even like I never think about

0:24:37.920 --> 0:24:40.680
<v Speaker 1>my hands like how they look. Like when I'm thinking

0:24:40.680 --> 0:24:43.399
<v Speaker 1>about someone taking a picture of me, like zero percent

0:24:43.400 --> 0:24:45.000
<v Speaker 1>of the time, I'm like, oh, my god, my hands

0:24:45.040 --> 0:24:47.239
<v Speaker 1>do they look shapely? Do you know what's crazy is

0:24:47.440 --> 0:24:53.200
<v Speaker 1>I had to send a picture of a piece of

0:24:53.560 --> 0:24:57.280
<v Speaker 1>equipment for this job I'm on to a technical person

0:24:58.000 --> 0:24:59.800
<v Speaker 1>and I just took a picture of my phone and

0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:01.640
<v Speaker 1>into to them. And I realized as I was sending

0:25:01.640 --> 0:25:04.400
<v Speaker 1>the email, was like, my hands like funked up in this.

0:25:06.119 --> 0:25:09.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm having a real low hand self esteem day. Oh,

0:25:09.960 --> 0:25:12.639
<v Speaker 1>I think you have the shapely hands of the Orleanslan family.

0:25:12.760 --> 0:25:15.520
<v Speaker 1>I know you're being really nice right now, but it's

0:25:15.520 --> 0:25:19.240
<v Speaker 1>actually a little hilarious that the one day possibly in

0:25:19.280 --> 0:25:23.439
<v Speaker 1>my life, that I've noticed my hands, I was like,

0:25:23.480 --> 0:25:25.680
<v Speaker 1>what the fund is up with my hands? Only these

0:25:25.680 --> 0:25:28.879
<v Speaker 1>were feet. Yeah. I've been an arm model before. My

0:25:28.920 --> 0:25:31.880
<v Speaker 1>friend was doing some not like you know, elbows down

0:25:32.040 --> 0:25:34.080
<v Speaker 1>I was doing. I was doing some stock photography and

0:25:34.240 --> 0:25:36.040
<v Speaker 1>was like, I want to take pictures of your arms,

0:25:36.040 --> 0:25:38.879
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, you're wilding out. So you know what,

0:25:39.040 --> 0:25:41.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm good. I'm good risk to elbow to elbow, Yeah,

0:25:41.920 --> 0:25:44.280
<v Speaker 1>I got I got far arm. My fearms are I'm

0:25:44.280 --> 0:25:49.280
<v Speaker 1>about it? Well, Leopold was a handman. Yeah, so we've

0:25:49.320 --> 0:25:52.520
<v Speaker 1>got this frustrated, greedy, gorgeous handed king on the throne

0:25:52.520 --> 0:25:54.720
<v Speaker 1>of Belgium. He keeps trying to get his country and

0:25:54.800 --> 0:25:56.760
<v Speaker 1>to jump on board the having a colony train that

0:25:56.800 --> 0:26:00.400
<v Speaker 1>the people of Belgium expresses zero interest in this. Oh okay, wait,

0:26:00.480 --> 0:26:04.800
<v Speaker 1>why what do you mean? All right? Because obviously all

0:26:04.960 --> 0:26:08.600
<v Speaker 1>European colonialism is pretty much the root of almost everything

0:26:08.600 --> 0:26:11.479
<v Speaker 1>that's wrong in the world right now. But there is.

0:26:11.800 --> 0:26:15.119
<v Speaker 1>But I don't understand why they. I mean, they certainly didn't.

0:26:15.359 --> 0:26:17.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna, I guess not want to do it. For

0:26:17.320 --> 0:26:19.239
<v Speaker 1>the reasons why I don't think they should have done it.

0:26:19.560 --> 0:26:22.600
<v Speaker 1>I think the Belgians, for one thing, So the Belgiums

0:26:22.600 --> 0:26:25.720
<v Speaker 1>of this era, anyone who's like a mature adult, lived

0:26:25.760 --> 0:26:28.400
<v Speaker 1>through what was at that point he equipment in World

0:26:28.480 --> 0:26:30.960
<v Speaker 1>War two, the Napoleonic Wars, like we just don't want

0:26:30.960 --> 0:26:33.160
<v Speaker 1>any trouble, Like we just want to stay in Belgium

0:26:33.160 --> 0:26:35.720
<v Speaker 1>and eat chocolate and drink beer. We don't really want

0:26:35.720 --> 0:26:39.280
<v Speaker 1>to go to Africa or Asia. And let's see the

0:26:39.280 --> 0:26:41.760
<v Speaker 1>first of die not the first can I say, can

0:26:41.960 --> 0:26:44.760
<v Speaker 1>continue an incredibly less long list of ignorant as sh

0:26:44.960 --> 0:26:49.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm about to say, you do you is Belgium landlocked? No? No, no, no,

0:26:50.040 --> 0:26:54.240
<v Speaker 1>it has an Antwerp Antwerp, that's right, okay, number of Yeah, yeah,

0:26:54.560 --> 0:26:56.679
<v Speaker 1>it's it's a wee little country. You can drive across

0:26:56.720 --> 0:26:59.800
<v Speaker 1>it in a couple of hours. Yeah, okay. I was

0:26:59.840 --> 0:27:02.919
<v Speaker 1>just like, okay, yeah, I was just like, it's funny

0:27:02.960 --> 0:27:06.600
<v Speaker 1>to imagine a landlock country own and stuff. But of

0:27:06.600 --> 0:27:08.560
<v Speaker 1>course they can who gives a ship. But they're not landlocked,

0:27:08.560 --> 0:27:11.000
<v Speaker 1>so fuck me. Yeah, no, they're not. Um they didn't

0:27:11.040 --> 0:27:13.000
<v Speaker 1>have a colony at this point, and they seem to

0:27:13.040 --> 0:27:17.320
<v Speaker 1>have zero interest in having one now. At this same time,

0:27:17.520 --> 0:27:20.560
<v Speaker 1>from eighteen seventy eighteen seventy seven, when Leopolds like a

0:27:20.600 --> 0:27:23.560
<v Speaker 1>decade or so into his kinghood, there's this explorer named

0:27:23.560 --> 0:27:26.920
<v Speaker 1>Henry Morton Stanley. Uh and yeah, from seventy four to

0:27:26.960 --> 0:27:31.440
<v Speaker 1>seventy seven, he completes seven thousand mile expedition across Central Africa.

0:27:31.840 --> 0:27:34.560
<v Speaker 1>Much of his travel centered upon the still undiscovered by

0:27:34.600 --> 0:27:37.760
<v Speaker 1>like white people, Congo. No one had like mapped the

0:27:37.800 --> 0:27:40.080
<v Speaker 1>extent of the Congo River. We didn't know where it

0:27:40.359 --> 0:27:44.159
<v Speaker 1>originated from at this point. Um so, and at this

0:27:44.200 --> 0:27:47.520
<v Speaker 1>time in European history, like different explorers mapping Africa are

0:27:47.600 --> 0:27:49.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of like the Marvel movie franchise of the day,

0:27:50.119 --> 0:27:52.399
<v Speaker 1>Like each of these guys is world famous and like

0:27:52.520 --> 0:27:56.520
<v Speaker 1>newspapers breathlessly cover every expedition, and whenever they finished an expedition,

0:27:56.560 --> 0:27:58.800
<v Speaker 1>they write a book and millions of people by it

0:27:58.880 --> 0:28:02.320
<v Speaker 1>so automatically. For the ball exactly, this is like the

0:28:02.320 --> 0:28:04.680
<v Speaker 1>thing people care about at this point in time. It's

0:28:04.680 --> 0:28:07.720
<v Speaker 1>like what these explorers are doing in Africa and all

0:28:07.720 --> 0:28:09.760
<v Speaker 1>over the world. Like that just means if I were

0:28:09.800 --> 0:28:14.639
<v Speaker 1>alive then and a white person, two big guests, I

0:28:14.640 --> 0:28:17.639
<v Speaker 1>would be like struggling to get on one of the

0:28:17.640 --> 0:28:21.359
<v Speaker 1>good expeditions. Yeah you really, you really like fingers crossed.

0:28:21.359 --> 0:28:23.360
<v Speaker 1>It's not one of the ones where people eat each other.

0:28:23.440 --> 0:28:26.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, statistically a lot of them are. Yeah.

0:28:27.040 --> 0:28:30.320
<v Speaker 1>Um So Stanley maps like a huge chunk of the Congo,

0:28:30.520 --> 0:28:32.480
<v Speaker 1>more than anyone had ever done before, and it's like

0:28:32.560 --> 0:28:35.439
<v Speaker 1>big news. He gets back to Europe from Africa and

0:28:35.480 --> 0:28:37.760
<v Speaker 1>he goes on tour. He's doing like speaking engagements. He's

0:28:37.800 --> 0:28:39.959
<v Speaker 1>a big celebrity. I feel like there's a lot of

0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:43.560
<v Speaker 1>like skulls and calipers in a talk like this, Yeah,

0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:49.160
<v Speaker 1>and probably buckets of racism, like like totally unexamined racism.

0:28:49.720 --> 0:28:52.360
<v Speaker 1>I look. If you don't look, it's not there. Yeah,

0:28:52.640 --> 0:28:57.560
<v Speaker 1>that's the racist motto. Um. So he's touring around and

0:28:57.640 --> 0:29:01.320
<v Speaker 1>King Leopold winds up meeting with him. Um. Stanley had

0:29:01.320 --> 0:29:03.160
<v Speaker 1>been bullish on the idea that the Congo would be

0:29:03.200 --> 0:29:06.120
<v Speaker 1>a great place for a colony, and he wanted the

0:29:06.160 --> 0:29:09.680
<v Speaker 1>British to set up a colony there. You want to

0:29:09.680 --> 0:29:13.720
<v Speaker 1>go to the best colonizing studio first, Yeah, exactly, that's

0:29:13.760 --> 0:29:17.400
<v Speaker 1>like the paramount good. Probably not. I don't know anything

0:29:17.400 --> 0:29:20.800
<v Speaker 1>about Warner Brothers. We all live in the Disney, isn't

0:29:20.920 --> 0:29:25.160
<v Speaker 1>that's the Disney. Yeah, Britain's the Disney of colonizing. Yeah.

0:29:25.520 --> 0:29:28.120
<v Speaker 1>And and instead he goes to I don't who's who's

0:29:28.160 --> 0:29:32.440
<v Speaker 1>making DC's garbage movies. Warner Brothers, Warner Brothers. Okay, so

0:29:32.520 --> 0:29:35.480
<v Speaker 1>Leopold's Warner Brothers. No, they're not even in it. Leopold

0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:39.720
<v Speaker 1>is like he's gotten very confusing. Leopold is like, uh,

0:29:39.760 --> 0:29:43.440
<v Speaker 1>snapchat making stuff, Like technically they got the our YouTube

0:29:43.480 --> 0:29:45.600
<v Speaker 1>like it's a YouTube show. Yeah, you know, it's like

0:29:45.640 --> 0:29:48.440
<v Speaker 1>they got some money. Let's actually call it no history

0:29:48.520 --> 0:29:51.160
<v Speaker 1>for it, but who knows. I feel like we actually

0:29:51.200 --> 0:29:53.640
<v Speaker 1>hit upon the right thing to compare him to, which

0:29:53.720 --> 0:29:57.600
<v Speaker 1>is Amazon. Yes. Yeah. So Stanley tries to sell his

0:29:57.640 --> 0:30:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Congo idea to Disney Slash Britain and it fails, and

0:30:01.920 --> 0:30:05.400
<v Speaker 1>King Leopold a k A. Amazon's like, well, we might

0:30:05.480 --> 0:30:08.720
<v Speaker 1>be interested in this plan. Yeah, we'll fund this. Why

0:30:08.760 --> 0:30:11.040
<v Speaker 1>don't you, Why don't you give me your elevator pitch

0:30:11.200 --> 0:30:13.760
<v Speaker 1>colony and the Congo Huh? I like it. I like

0:30:13.920 --> 0:30:18.640
<v Speaker 1>this idea. Yeah. So Leopold uh contracts Stanley to work

0:30:18.640 --> 0:30:20.800
<v Speaker 1>for him, and he sends him back to Africa with

0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:24.000
<v Speaker 1>a new mission. So Leopold's master plan here, I'm gonna

0:30:24.000 --> 0:30:25.880
<v Speaker 1>appeal back for a minute, and we're going to zoom

0:30:25.880 --> 0:30:28.200
<v Speaker 1>into the different pieces because it's a complicated as plant.

0:30:28.720 --> 0:30:31.800
<v Speaker 1>His master plan is to create the Congo Free State,

0:30:32.000 --> 0:30:35.440
<v Speaker 1>which is a supposedly independent African nation that just happened

0:30:35.440 --> 0:30:38.960
<v Speaker 1>to also be ruled by King Leopold the Second UM.

0:30:39.080 --> 0:30:42.840
<v Speaker 1>So he went about doing this in a few ways. Uh.

0:30:42.880 --> 0:30:46.240
<v Speaker 1>In eighteen seventy six, he hosted the Brussels Geographic Conference,

0:30:46.240 --> 0:30:48.520
<v Speaker 1>where he invited a bunch of European experts to form

0:30:48.560 --> 0:30:52.160
<v Speaker 1>the so called International African Association, which of course had

0:30:52.160 --> 0:30:56.160
<v Speaker 1>no Africans as members. UM the association was a supposedly

0:30:56.200 --> 0:30:58.959
<v Speaker 1>philanthropic organization. I'm going to read you a selection from

0:30:59.040 --> 0:31:01.280
<v Speaker 1>Leopold's speech at the conference where he sort of lays

0:31:01.280 --> 0:31:03.480
<v Speaker 1>out what he wants to do. The subject that calls

0:31:03.520 --> 0:31:05.840
<v Speaker 1>us together today is one that demands the first place

0:31:05.880 --> 0:31:08.000
<v Speaker 1>in the attention of friends of humanity to open up

0:31:08.080 --> 0:31:10.240
<v Speaker 1>to civilization. The only part of our globe where she

0:31:10.280 --> 0:31:13.400
<v Speaker 1>has not yet penetrated, to pierce the darkness that envelops

0:31:13.520 --> 0:31:16.880
<v Speaker 1>entire populations is I may venture to say a crusade

0:31:16.920 --> 0:31:19.360
<v Speaker 1>worthy of this century of progress, and I am glad

0:31:19.400 --> 0:31:22.960
<v Speaker 1>to observe how very favorable public feeling is to its accomplishment.

0:31:23.200 --> 0:31:26.400
<v Speaker 1>The current is with us. So he gets this association

0:31:26.400 --> 0:31:29.280
<v Speaker 1>together and he says, this is an international group and

0:31:29.320 --> 0:31:33.120
<v Speaker 1>we're trying to civilize Africa and improve lives of people

0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:35.840
<v Speaker 1>who were there. I didn't realize that back then. The

0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:40.479
<v Speaker 1>rhetoric was already like the kind of like always is

0:31:40.600 --> 0:31:42.720
<v Speaker 1>this is to help them double speak. I actually just

0:31:42.800 --> 0:31:44.960
<v Speaker 1>assumed they were like, yeah, I'm gonna take this ship

0:31:45.000 --> 0:31:49.280
<v Speaker 1>from black people. No, they they are. And these guys

0:31:49.440 --> 0:31:53.080
<v Speaker 1>the people he invites to the Geographic Conference and forms

0:31:53.080 --> 0:31:56.239
<v Speaker 1>the International African association with these guys are a lot

0:31:56.240 --> 0:31:58.960
<v Speaker 1>of people who legitimately want to make things better for Africans,

0:31:59.000 --> 0:32:02.040
<v Speaker 1>who aren't even thinking about making these are the well

0:32:02.160 --> 0:32:05.800
<v Speaker 1>meaning liberal white people, yeah, exactly, and like missionaries who

0:32:05.800 --> 0:32:08.080
<v Speaker 1>are like and like well meaning liberal white people. Because

0:32:08.080 --> 0:32:11.080
<v Speaker 1>there's an Arab slave trade in Africa, like traders moving

0:32:11.080 --> 0:32:14.040
<v Speaker 1>through the Congo, and the abolition movement is very big

0:32:14.080 --> 0:32:16.160
<v Speaker 1>at this point in time, and so these people are

0:32:16.200 --> 0:32:18.280
<v Speaker 1>being like, we've got to stop the slave trade in Africa,

0:32:18.360 --> 0:32:21.600
<v Speaker 1>sold we can do that. And there's a bunch of

0:32:21.600 --> 0:32:23.640
<v Speaker 1>people who are like, we've got to christianize the Africans

0:32:23.640 --> 0:32:25.720
<v Speaker 1>and Leopolds, like we can do that and like that.

0:32:25.880 --> 0:32:29.200
<v Speaker 1>So that's that's what he's claiming this association. Okay, so

0:32:29.240 --> 0:32:32.760
<v Speaker 1>this is right, This is like definitely like colonialism two

0:32:32.760 --> 0:32:36.480
<v Speaker 1>point o or three point oh. He steps ahead of everyone.

0:32:36.640 --> 0:32:39.280
<v Speaker 1>He's not even framing this as colonialism. He's framing this

0:32:39.320 --> 0:32:43.080
<v Speaker 1>as a charitable endeavor to exactly. Yeah. Yeah. So he

0:32:43.200 --> 0:32:45.440
<v Speaker 1>suggests that Belgium would be a great place for this

0:32:45.480 --> 0:32:47.920
<v Speaker 1>new international body to meet because it's a neutral country

0:32:47.960 --> 0:32:51.120
<v Speaker 1>and it's centrally located in Europe. And then he suggests

0:32:51.120 --> 0:32:52.480
<v Speaker 1>that he might be a good person to run the

0:32:52.520 --> 0:32:55.480
<v Speaker 1>association just for its first year. Hit yourself, you know

0:32:55.480 --> 0:32:58.880
<v Speaker 1>you've got to conference first year. Uh. And he assures

0:32:58.920 --> 0:33:00.560
<v Speaker 1>them all that he's doing this from the goodness of

0:33:00.600 --> 0:33:03.640
<v Speaker 1>his heart. Uh. He says, Belgium is small, she is

0:33:03.800 --> 0:33:06.240
<v Speaker 1>happy and satisfied with her lot. I have no other

0:33:06.280 --> 0:33:08.520
<v Speaker 1>ambition than to serve her well. And it was true

0:33:08.560 --> 0:33:11.440
<v Speaker 1>that Belgians were pretty happy with their lot. But Leopold

0:33:12.040 --> 0:33:15.240
<v Speaker 1>did have some ambitions. So he gets elected head of

0:33:15.280 --> 0:33:19.320
<v Speaker 1>the International African Association the first year, and then he

0:33:19.360 --> 0:33:21.280
<v Speaker 1>gets elected the head of it the second year too,

0:33:21.400 --> 0:33:23.920
<v Speaker 1>even though that was supposed to be illegal, back to back.

0:33:24.120 --> 0:33:27.440
<v Speaker 1>And then the association kind of stops existing, and Leopold

0:33:27.480 --> 0:33:30.520
<v Speaker 1>replaces it with the Committee for Studies of the Upper Congo,

0:33:30.920 --> 0:33:33.800
<v Speaker 1>and then he replaces that with the International Association for

0:33:33.840 --> 0:33:38.160
<v Speaker 1>the Congo. On paper, these are all different international philanthropic groups.

0:33:38.440 --> 0:33:41.080
<v Speaker 1>Their names were deliberately forgettable and similar, so the public

0:33:41.120 --> 0:33:43.760
<v Speaker 1>would assume they were all the same thing. Uh. In

0:33:43.840 --> 0:33:47.040
<v Speaker 1>King Leopold's Ghost, Adam hos Child writes that Leopold directly

0:33:47.040 --> 0:33:49.720
<v Speaker 1>told his aids quote, care must be taken, not to

0:33:49.800 --> 0:33:52.200
<v Speaker 1>let it be obvious that the Association of the Congo

0:33:52.280 --> 0:33:55.440
<v Speaker 1>and the African Association are two different things. The public

0:33:55.480 --> 0:34:00.600
<v Speaker 1>doesn't grasp that. So in reality, all of these lanthropic

0:34:00.640 --> 0:34:03.960
<v Speaker 1>groups are shadow fronts for Leopold's plan to conquer the Congo.

0:34:04.400 --> 0:34:07.720
<v Speaker 1>So they're all charity organizations that he gets international aid

0:34:07.720 --> 0:34:10.360
<v Speaker 1>money getting sent into, and he's able to pour Belgian

0:34:10.360 --> 0:34:14.520
<v Speaker 1>government funds into ass and donations, just like Hillary Clinton,

0:34:14.719 --> 0:34:19.040
<v Speaker 1>not exactly like Hillary Clinton. Yes, you've watched the documentary

0:34:19.080 --> 0:34:24.719
<v Speaker 1>Clinton Cash by Niche Deza. Yes. Um. The thing that's

0:34:24.719 --> 0:34:29.920
<v Speaker 1>amazing about this is it's so complicated a plan that

0:34:30.719 --> 0:34:33.719
<v Speaker 1>doesn't feel like I mean, I you know, I'm a

0:34:33.719 --> 0:34:36.600
<v Speaker 1>super smart person. Of course I'm not finding a place

0:34:36.600 --> 0:34:40.120
<v Speaker 1>where you could improvise your way into this. You just

0:34:40.160 --> 0:34:42.279
<v Speaker 1>gotta wait, because we're not even halfway through the plan

0:34:42.480 --> 0:34:46.320
<v Speaker 1>like this, like he's he is a legitimate Like okay,

0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:49.040
<v Speaker 1>so the villain that Marvel keeps trying to write and

0:34:49.040 --> 0:34:50.960
<v Speaker 1>like failing to write in my opinion, where it's like

0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:53.200
<v Speaker 1>the low key character whether here he's got all these

0:34:53.200 --> 0:34:57.200
<v Speaker 1>plans within plans step ahead. Leopold actually was that guy

0:34:57.320 --> 0:34:59.399
<v Speaker 1>to the whole world, but in sort of the same

0:34:59.520 --> 0:35:02.600
<v Speaker 1>villain as way, You're like, this is insane. There's so

0:35:02.640 --> 0:35:04.640
<v Speaker 1>many things that could go wrong in this. So he's

0:35:04.640 --> 0:35:08.759
<v Speaker 1>now created three different philanthropic associations just because like the

0:35:08.800 --> 0:35:11.960
<v Speaker 1>backers will start realizing that the association's fake and they'll

0:35:12.000 --> 0:35:15.000
<v Speaker 1>pull their money, but he'll keep the organization alive or

0:35:15.000 --> 0:35:18.160
<v Speaker 1>whole roll its assets into a new organization. And nobody

0:35:18.200 --> 0:35:21.080
<v Speaker 1>who got caught, who realized that this was some weird

0:35:21.120 --> 0:35:23.120
<v Speaker 1>show company wants to admit that they got caught, so

0:35:23.120 --> 0:35:26.239
<v Speaker 1>they just don't say anything. And the public just here's like, oh,

0:35:26.360 --> 0:35:30.480
<v Speaker 1>it's the new thing. Is how the International African Association,

0:35:30.560 --> 0:35:32.480
<v Speaker 1>it's that group of people trying to make life better

0:35:32.480 --> 0:35:36.560
<v Speaker 1>in Africa, right, Um, So he all these groups are

0:35:36.600 --> 0:35:40.440
<v Speaker 1>basically funneling money into the work of Henry Morton Stanley,

0:35:40.480 --> 0:35:44.520
<v Speaker 1>that explorer who Leopold sent back to Africa. So Leopold

0:35:44.520 --> 0:35:46.600
<v Speaker 1>sent him back in eighteen seventy nine, and his job

0:35:46.680 --> 0:35:50.000
<v Speaker 1>was to start building, using the association money, a series

0:35:50.040 --> 0:35:52.680
<v Speaker 1>of stations along the Congo River to act as like

0:35:52.760 --> 0:35:56.600
<v Speaker 1>way points for steamboat traffic. Uh. He also met with

0:35:56.680 --> 0:35:59.200
<v Speaker 1>hundreds of local treats all throughout the Congo, all the

0:35:59.239 --> 0:36:01.640
<v Speaker 1>different people who had chunks of land throughout the Congo,

0:36:01.680 --> 0:36:04.000
<v Speaker 1>the different villages and chiefs, hundreds and hundreds of them.

0:36:04.080 --> 0:36:05.759
<v Speaker 1>He meets with these guys and he gets them to

0:36:05.840 --> 0:36:09.319
<v Speaker 1>sign treaties giving up their rights to the land. Uh.

0:36:09.360 --> 0:36:11.600
<v Speaker 1>Here's a quote from host Child's book. The very word

0:36:11.640 --> 0:36:13.919
<v Speaker 1>treaty is a euphemism. For many chiefs had no idea

0:36:13.960 --> 0:36:15.360
<v Speaker 1>what they were signing. I few had ever seen the

0:36:15.400 --> 0:36:17.279
<v Speaker 1>written word before, and they were being asked to mark

0:36:17.320 --> 0:36:19.719
<v Speaker 1>their excess to documents in a foreign language and in

0:36:19.800 --> 0:36:23.480
<v Speaker 1>legal ease. These guys weren't ignorant of the concept of diplomacy.

0:36:23.520 --> 0:36:26.000
<v Speaker 1>They knew wouldmitt to write treaties of friendship with neighboring

0:36:26.000 --> 0:36:28.160
<v Speaker 1>tribes or villages. They understood the idea of a non

0:36:28.239 --> 0:36:30.920
<v Speaker 1>aggression pact, and that's what they thought these were. The

0:36:31.000 --> 0:36:34.759
<v Speaker 1>reality was somewhat different. Quote. In return for one piece

0:36:34.800 --> 0:36:37.520
<v Speaker 1>of cloth per month to each of the undersigned chiefs,

0:36:37.560 --> 0:36:40.800
<v Speaker 1>besides present of cloth in hand, they promised, too freely

0:36:40.840 --> 0:36:43.919
<v Speaker 1>of their own accord for themselves and their heirs and successors,

0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:47.960
<v Speaker 1>forever give up to set association the sovereignty and all

0:36:48.080 --> 0:36:52.840
<v Speaker 1>sovereign and governing rights to all their territories. So Basically

0:36:52.880 --> 0:36:55.400
<v Speaker 1>he gives them cloth. They think that they're getting some

0:36:55.520 --> 0:36:59.839
<v Speaker 1>sick ass clothes, just assion pacts. This is a thing.

0:37:00.040 --> 0:37:03.279
<v Speaker 1>Here's our everyone. You give us shirts. We promise we

0:37:03.320 --> 0:37:04.960
<v Speaker 1>won't shoot you. We don't want to shoot you anyway.

0:37:05.000 --> 0:37:08.880
<v Speaker 1>That sounds great. In reality, these are all statements saying

0:37:09.040 --> 0:37:12.439
<v Speaker 1>that they give up other rights to the International African Association,

0:37:12.880 --> 0:37:15.600
<v Speaker 1>and the Association will have the right to collect taxes

0:37:16.040 --> 0:37:18.480
<v Speaker 1>on the people who gave up their rights to their land,

0:37:18.960 --> 0:37:21.759
<v Speaker 1>and those taxes, because there's no currency in most of

0:37:21.760 --> 0:37:26.040
<v Speaker 1>the Congo, those taxes can be paid in labor. So

0:37:26.560 --> 0:37:33.840
<v Speaker 1>Leopold gets hundreds of chiefs from Stanley to sign these agreements. Um, yeah,

0:37:34.080 --> 0:37:38.480
<v Speaker 1>Jesus so Europe. Thanks. Stanley's over there doing valuable philanthropic

0:37:38.520 --> 0:37:40.880
<v Speaker 1>work fighting with the slave traders and trying to open

0:37:41.040 --> 0:37:43.600
<v Speaker 1>the Congo up to free trade. That's the big buzzword

0:37:43.600 --> 0:37:45.480
<v Speaker 1>everyone's using. It's like, we're gonna open the Congo to

0:37:45.560 --> 0:37:47.239
<v Speaker 1>free trade and it will benefit the Africans, it will

0:37:47.280 --> 0:37:50.120
<v Speaker 1>benefit Europe. Everyone will benefit if there's free trade in

0:37:50.160 --> 0:37:54.320
<v Speaker 1>the Congo. Uh. Meanwhile, what he's actually doing is getting

0:37:54.360 --> 0:37:57.440
<v Speaker 1>pieces of paper that give Leopold the rights to the

0:37:57.440 --> 0:37:59.480
<v Speaker 1>Congo that make it look like all these chiefs have

0:37:59.520 --> 0:38:01.520
<v Speaker 1>come together and said, we want this guy to be

0:38:01.560 --> 0:38:04.399
<v Speaker 1>our king, and we want to be a country. So

0:38:05.239 --> 0:38:07.040
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I should break for just a second

0:38:07.120 --> 0:38:09.280
<v Speaker 1>and talk a little bit more about Henry Morton Stanley.

0:38:09.280 --> 0:38:11.200
<v Speaker 1>Who's the guy who's actually doing all this leg work.

0:38:11.480 --> 0:38:13.480
<v Speaker 1>He was one of the greatest explorers in history. And

0:38:13.480 --> 0:38:15.520
<v Speaker 1>he was also a human garbage fire, sort of a

0:38:15.600 --> 0:38:19.360
<v Speaker 1>Darth Vader. Definitely a Darth Vader too. He was terrified

0:38:19.360 --> 0:38:21.040
<v Speaker 1>by the thought of being touched by a woman, just

0:38:21.120 --> 0:38:24.560
<v Speaker 1>like Darth Vader. He once cut off his own dog's tail,

0:38:24.600 --> 0:38:26.360
<v Speaker 1>cooked it, and fed it to the dog for no

0:38:26.520 --> 0:38:30.840
<v Speaker 1>real reason. Um. And he basically, when I say he

0:38:30.920 --> 0:38:34.800
<v Speaker 1>was an explorer, he shot his way through Africa. Here's

0:38:34.800 --> 0:38:38.319
<v Speaker 1>a quote from a description of one of Stanley's expeditions

0:38:38.320 --> 0:38:41.799
<v Speaker 1>in King's Leopold's Ghost. To those unfortunate enough to live

0:38:41.840 --> 0:38:44.160
<v Speaker 1>in its path, the expedition felt like an invading army,

0:38:44.200 --> 0:38:46.760
<v Speaker 1>for it sometimes held women in children hostage until local

0:38:46.800 --> 0:38:50.720
<v Speaker 1>chief supplied food. UM. So yeah, he's shooting his way

0:38:50.719 --> 0:38:54.600
<v Speaker 1>through these tribes, taking their food, taking their ship, um,

0:38:54.640 --> 0:38:58.160
<v Speaker 1>burning down villages if there's any resistance um. One of

0:38:58.239 --> 0:39:01.520
<v Speaker 1>his men described just hunting people like the predator, like

0:39:01.640 --> 0:39:05.839
<v Speaker 1>laying in wait and just shooting random strangers. UM like

0:39:06.080 --> 0:39:09.160
<v Speaker 1>less ethical than the predator, who should played out has

0:39:09.200 --> 0:39:12.200
<v Speaker 1>a certain code. Yeah yeah, way less ethical than the predators.

0:39:12.200 --> 0:39:15.520
<v Speaker 1>So these guys are predatoring their way through through Africa,

0:39:16.160 --> 0:39:20.080
<v Speaker 1>but they're not particularly worse than any other explorer at

0:39:20.080 --> 0:39:22.879
<v Speaker 1>the time. I would he's one of the worst. They vary.

0:39:22.960 --> 0:39:26.000
<v Speaker 1>So Henry Morton Stanley, you know, the Dr Livingston, I

0:39:26.080 --> 0:39:30.080
<v Speaker 1>presume that he's that guy. And Dr Livingstone was apparently

0:39:30.239 --> 0:39:32.279
<v Speaker 1>a pretty nice guy. He was also an explorer and

0:39:32.320 --> 0:39:35.000
<v Speaker 1>actually would like get to know people and like and

0:39:35.239 --> 0:39:37.480
<v Speaker 1>plcate himself in the local culture. So some of these

0:39:37.480 --> 0:39:41.040
<v Speaker 1>guys are legitimately just in it for the sake of exploration,

0:39:41.200 --> 0:39:44.600
<v Speaker 1>and they're scientists and they're good to the people they encounter.

0:39:45.040 --> 0:39:47.200
<v Speaker 1>And some of them, like Stanley, just want to make

0:39:47.200 --> 0:39:51.120
<v Speaker 1>a shipload of money and they're creepy. Stanley is one

0:39:51.120 --> 0:39:54.120
<v Speaker 1>of the kills thousands of people while he's exploring. God,

0:39:54.160 --> 0:39:55.960
<v Speaker 1>I got it. I just want to I guess when

0:39:56.000 --> 0:39:58.320
<v Speaker 1>I met not as a mitigating thing of like everyone

0:39:58.400 --> 0:40:02.080
<v Speaker 1>was doing it, but like, if not the only standard practice.

0:40:02.280 --> 0:40:05.439
<v Speaker 1>It was not what you're describing is not not he's

0:40:05.440 --> 0:40:08.680
<v Speaker 1>a standard he's it's definitely common practice on a lot

0:40:08.719 --> 0:40:10.960
<v Speaker 1>of these guys. But he's not near to the only one.

0:40:11.239 --> 0:40:16.360
<v Speaker 1>But he's one of the worst for sure. Um So yeah.

0:40:16.400 --> 0:40:19.360
<v Speaker 1>While Stanley's expedition is going on, Leopold also hires a

0:40:19.360 --> 0:40:22.120
<v Speaker 1>bunch of other expeditions to explore their parts of Africa.

0:40:22.440 --> 0:40:26.160
<v Speaker 1>These were deliberately showy expeditions meant to distract public attention.

0:40:26.200 --> 0:40:28.840
<v Speaker 1>One of them involved the team of four Indian elephants

0:40:28.840 --> 0:40:31.080
<v Speaker 1>being sent to Africa to see if they could bread

0:40:31.120 --> 0:40:34.080
<v Speaker 1>with African elephants. All of the elephants died horribly, but

0:40:34.160 --> 0:40:37.239
<v Speaker 1>the news covered the story the whole time. So nobody's

0:40:37.440 --> 0:40:39.879
<v Speaker 1>reading about what Stanley is doing because they think it's

0:40:39.880 --> 0:40:43.200
<v Speaker 1>a boring philanthropical mission and there's this crazy story about elephants.

0:40:43.239 --> 0:40:48.640
<v Speaker 1>Let's read about that, so fucking dark. So he's clearly

0:40:48.719 --> 0:40:51.439
<v Speaker 1>understands the media well enough that he's not just thinking

0:40:51.440 --> 0:40:53.800
<v Speaker 1>about how to accomplish his plan, but how to distract

0:40:54.200 --> 0:40:57.960
<v Speaker 1>public attention. And while he does it, when Morton Stanley

0:40:58.000 --> 0:41:00.719
<v Speaker 1>gets back from his expedition and he writes a book

0:41:00.719 --> 0:41:04.080
<v Speaker 1>it's an instant bestseller. King Leopold edits it himself. That's

0:41:04.080 --> 0:41:05.680
<v Speaker 1>one of the things he had insisted on is that

0:41:05.800 --> 0:41:08.840
<v Speaker 1>Stanley could write a book about this, but King Leopold

0:41:08.880 --> 0:41:10.840
<v Speaker 1>would get to edit it. And most of what he

0:41:10.880 --> 0:41:13.200
<v Speaker 1>did was correct the times when Stanley mixed up the

0:41:13.200 --> 0:41:16.279
<v Speaker 1>different associations and committees that he was supposedly working for,

0:41:16.560 --> 0:41:20.279
<v Speaker 1>because nobody could keep it straight, but Leopold. That's such

0:41:20.280 --> 0:41:23.480
<v Speaker 1>an attention to detail, that's unbelievable. Like I said, he's

0:41:23.480 --> 0:41:29.480
<v Speaker 1>the first modern, truly modern past um. So this book

0:41:29.640 --> 0:41:31.960
<v Speaker 1>is sort of framed as like Henry Morton, Stanley is

0:41:32.000 --> 0:41:35.040
<v Speaker 1>helping the Congo Free State be born and helping these

0:41:35.160 --> 0:41:38.160
<v Speaker 1>these Africans like take their stab at nation hood and

0:41:38.239 --> 0:41:41.000
<v Speaker 1>joining the international community and whatnot. So that's how that

0:41:41.040 --> 0:41:43.000
<v Speaker 1>all this is being played on the outside world. The

0:41:43.040 --> 0:41:46.279
<v Speaker 1>reality and the Congo is very different. Uh. And what

0:41:46.360 --> 0:41:50.840
<v Speaker 1>happens next is uh not what anyone but Leopold had expected.

0:41:51.000 --> 0:41:52.400
<v Speaker 1>And we're going to get into that in a minute.

0:41:53.160 --> 0:41:57.759
<v Speaker 1>But right now, Uh, Andrew, do you have too much money? Oh?

0:41:57.920 --> 0:42:00.839
<v Speaker 1>Hell yeah. Well one of the great things to do

0:42:00.920 --> 0:42:04.080
<v Speaker 1>with too much money is spend it on products. Products

0:42:04.120 --> 0:42:06.279
<v Speaker 1>like the ones that I'm going to talk about. Now

0:42:06.600 --> 0:42:15.680
<v Speaker 1>here's ads. So we're back. Uh and King Leopold has

0:42:15.880 --> 0:42:18.360
<v Speaker 1>sent an explorer off to the Congo to trick a

0:42:18.360 --> 0:42:20.520
<v Speaker 1>bunch of tribes people into signing away their rights to

0:42:20.560 --> 0:42:22.600
<v Speaker 1>the land, while he has distracted the rest of Europe

0:42:22.600 --> 0:42:26.480
<v Speaker 1>with a bunch of showy expeditions. Uh So it's just

0:42:26.520 --> 0:42:30.080
<v Speaker 1>like it used to be, just like cannons and soldiers swords,

0:42:30.120 --> 0:42:35.759
<v Speaker 1>I guess, and now it's pr and fake treaties and stuff. Yeah,

0:42:35.840 --> 0:42:39.680
<v Speaker 1>it's really modern in a lot of ways. Um. So

0:42:40.000 --> 0:42:43.560
<v Speaker 1>Leopold has this new bestselling book that's talking about the

0:42:43.560 --> 0:42:45.319
<v Speaker 1>great stuff he's trying to do in the Congo that

0:42:45.320 --> 0:42:47.279
<v Speaker 1>gets the public jazz, and he's able to sort of

0:42:47.320 --> 0:42:49.920
<v Speaker 1>further push the legitimacy of his project by getting the

0:42:50.000 --> 0:42:54.360
<v Speaker 1>US President Chester A. Arthur to recognize the Congo Free State.

0:42:54.719 --> 0:42:57.160
<v Speaker 1>Leopold had charmed the former U S Minister to Belgium,

0:42:57.160 --> 0:42:59.520
<v Speaker 1>a guy who called himself General Sanford, even though he

0:42:59.560 --> 0:43:03.360
<v Speaker 1>was an ACTU le a general. Um. But he was

0:43:03.520 --> 0:43:05.520
<v Speaker 1>a rich guy who had a lot of money and

0:43:05.600 --> 0:43:08.200
<v Speaker 1>like an orange plantation. And because he was a rich guy,

0:43:08.280 --> 0:43:10.799
<v Speaker 1>he was able to get the President's ear Uh. General

0:43:10.880 --> 0:43:14.839
<v Speaker 1>Sandford appealed to President Arthur's justlike of Arabs, because again

0:43:14.880 --> 0:43:19.920
<v Speaker 1>there were all these Arab slave traders. Um, yes, nothing's changed,

0:43:21.000 --> 0:43:25.279
<v Speaker 1>nothing's new. Yeah, so chess Sterry Arthur was. He also

0:43:25.360 --> 0:43:27.319
<v Speaker 1>pointed out that that the Congo had been discovered by

0:43:27.320 --> 0:43:30.120
<v Speaker 1>an American because Henry Morton Stanley called himself an American.

0:43:30.200 --> 0:43:32.160
<v Speaker 1>He wasn't he was actually British, but the light his

0:43:32.160 --> 0:43:34.839
<v Speaker 1>whole life and said he was American. Everyone lies about

0:43:34.840 --> 0:43:39.319
<v Speaker 1>everything in the no Internet, because yeah, nothing like you.

0:43:39.320 --> 0:43:42.520
<v Speaker 1>You run into thousand colonels when you're reading anything in

0:43:42.520 --> 0:43:44.719
<v Speaker 1>this period, and none of them are colonels. Sure, none

0:43:44.719 --> 0:43:46.880
<v Speaker 1>of them were ever in the military, just like they

0:43:46.960 --> 0:43:49.280
<v Speaker 1>just I'm going to be a colonels, fried chicken colonels.

0:43:49.280 --> 0:43:51.879
<v Speaker 1>It's fine. And in this case of General anyway, Chess

0:43:51.920 --> 0:43:55.239
<v Speaker 1>Terry Arthur was like, sounds great, Uh, Congo free street,

0:43:55.280 --> 0:43:59.560
<v Speaker 1>sounds like a great idea. You're gonna fight some Arabs party, hooray.

0:44:00.120 --> 0:44:02.680
<v Speaker 1>So he included this next bit in his State of

0:44:02.719 --> 0:44:06.480
<v Speaker 1>the Union speech, recognizing the Congo free speech quote from

0:44:06.600 --> 0:44:09.560
<v Speaker 1>Chester A. Arthur. The rich and populous valley of the

0:44:09.600 --> 0:44:12.320
<v Speaker 1>Congo spelled with a k in. This is being opened

0:44:12.320 --> 0:44:15.479
<v Speaker 1>by a society called the International African Association, of which

0:44:15.480 --> 0:44:18.120
<v Speaker 1>the King of the Belgians is the president. Large tracts

0:44:18.160 --> 0:44:21.320
<v Speaker 1>of territory have been ceded to the Association by native chiefs.

0:44:21.640 --> 0:44:24.200
<v Speaker 1>Roads have been opened, steamboats have been placed on the river,

0:44:24.280 --> 0:44:27.520
<v Speaker 1>and the Nuclei of states established under one flag, which

0:44:27.520 --> 0:44:31.399
<v Speaker 1>offers freedom to commerce and prohibits the slave trade. Oh

0:44:31.440 --> 0:44:34.880
<v Speaker 1>my god, So that's how Chester A. Arthur pictures it.

0:44:35.000 --> 0:44:38.719
<v Speaker 1>So he got paid placement for his propaganda in the

0:44:38.760 --> 0:44:41.960
<v Speaker 1>State of the Union. Yeah, in the State of the Union. Uh.

0:44:42.000 --> 0:44:44.560
<v Speaker 1>So far the people of Belgium and the other European

0:44:44.640 --> 0:44:48.120
<v Speaker 1>states are fooled pretty well. But France and some other

0:44:48.200 --> 0:44:51.279
<v Speaker 1>folks and like the British government whatnot are starting to

0:44:51.320 --> 0:44:53.640
<v Speaker 1>catch on the Leopold's plan and realize that he's making

0:44:53.640 --> 0:44:56.640
<v Speaker 1>a power grab. This helped to spark a general what's

0:44:56.680 --> 0:44:59.240
<v Speaker 1>known as the Scramble for Africa, where all these European

0:44:59.239 --> 0:45:00.800
<v Speaker 1>powers are like, oh my god, we're running out of

0:45:00.840 --> 0:45:03.600
<v Speaker 1>Africa to take over. Uh. So they start shooting out

0:45:03.600 --> 0:45:05.839
<v Speaker 1>expeditions to claim the last pieces of the continent before

0:45:05.880 --> 0:45:08.840
<v Speaker 1>it fills up. Uh. This all culminates in the Berlin

0:45:09.000 --> 0:45:11.800
<v Speaker 1>Conference of eighteen eighty four to eighty five, and a

0:45:11.840 --> 0:45:14.960
<v Speaker 1>bunch of stuff is decided there. But Leopold's main goal

0:45:15.239 --> 0:45:17.400
<v Speaker 1>is to get recognition for what he starts calling the

0:45:17.400 --> 0:45:20.640
<v Speaker 1>Congo Free State. He's basically like, I've got all these treaties.

0:45:20.640 --> 0:45:22.320
<v Speaker 1>Like he gets up in front of Europe and he's like,

0:45:22.360 --> 0:45:24.319
<v Speaker 1>I got all these treaties. Look, the people of the

0:45:24.360 --> 0:45:26.160
<v Speaker 1>Congo want to be their own state. They want me

0:45:26.200 --> 0:45:28.320
<v Speaker 1>to be their king. They've given this this state the

0:45:28.480 --> 0:45:31.719
<v Speaker 1>rights to their land. Uh. And if you all back

0:45:31.840 --> 0:45:33.680
<v Speaker 1>me and establishing the state, it will be a free

0:45:33.719 --> 0:45:35.960
<v Speaker 1>trade zone, so all everyone will be able to trade

0:45:36.000 --> 0:45:38.480
<v Speaker 1>freely and buy and sell freely in there. It will

0:45:38.520 --> 0:45:42.000
<v Speaker 1>make a bunch of money for everybody. So that's Leopold's pitch,

0:45:42.840 --> 0:45:46.880
<v Speaker 1>and Europe buys it. In eighteen eighty five, the Congo

0:45:46.960 --> 0:45:49.799
<v Speaker 1>Free State is established. Leopold had to go in front

0:45:49.800 --> 0:45:51.719
<v Speaker 1>of Belgium Senate to ask if he could be two

0:45:51.800 --> 0:45:54.560
<v Speaker 1>kings at once. Uh. He promised that the Congo would

0:45:54.560 --> 0:45:56.319
<v Speaker 1>be its own independent nation and that it would pay

0:45:56.360 --> 0:45:58.440
<v Speaker 1>its own way in the world. He told Belgium he

0:45:58.480 --> 0:46:00.640
<v Speaker 1>thought it was his duty to quote help the nations

0:46:00.680 --> 0:46:03.600
<v Speaker 1>of second rank become useful members of the great family

0:46:03.640 --> 0:46:07.200
<v Speaker 1>of nations. Then he asked for money, a little alone

0:46:07.239 --> 0:46:09.319
<v Speaker 1>to help the fledgling new nation. And he asked his

0:46:09.360 --> 0:46:12.160
<v Speaker 1>fellow Belgians to volunteer to help in this bold project

0:46:12.360 --> 0:46:15.680
<v Speaker 1>quote more than any other. A manufacturing and commercial people

0:46:15.719 --> 0:46:18.440
<v Speaker 1>like ourselves ought to strive to obtain a market for

0:46:18.480 --> 0:46:22.440
<v Speaker 1>all its workers, for thinkers, capitalists and workmen. So the

0:46:22.520 --> 0:46:26.280
<v Speaker 1>Congo Free State is on paper a country with Leopold

0:46:26.280 --> 0:46:28.920
<v Speaker 1>the Second as its absolute ruler. So he's gone from

0:46:28.920 --> 0:46:30.879
<v Speaker 1>the King of Belgium, but he doesn't really have any

0:46:30.920 --> 0:46:36.000
<v Speaker 1>power to yeah of of a country like twenties times

0:46:36.040 --> 0:46:39.760
<v Speaker 1>the size of Belgium. Jesus Christ. Uh. So the Congo

0:46:39.840 --> 0:46:42.759
<v Speaker 1>Free State is to all intends and purposes of state.

0:46:42.800 --> 0:46:45.080
<v Speaker 1>It has its own army, the Force Publique, which is

0:46:45.120 --> 0:46:48.120
<v Speaker 1>made up of African soldiers led by Belgian officers. It's

0:46:48.120 --> 0:46:51.000
<v Speaker 1>illegal for black men to be officers in the Army

0:46:51.040 --> 0:46:58.640
<v Speaker 1>of the Congo. That sounds about yeah, um. So man

0:46:59.200 --> 0:47:03.840
<v Speaker 1>Leopold is a wired himself an African empire. Unfortunately, he

0:47:03.880 --> 0:47:07.200
<v Speaker 1>didn't want an empire. He had no desire to actually

0:47:07.280 --> 0:47:11.520
<v Speaker 1>rule another just wanted money. He just wanted money. So

0:47:11.840 --> 0:47:15.960
<v Speaker 1>the Congo Free State is entirely a money making scheme

0:47:16.640 --> 0:47:19.520
<v Speaker 1>and it's all based around rubber. So the late eighteen

0:47:19.640 --> 0:47:22.920
<v Speaker 1>hundreds is when rubber really started to take off. That's

0:47:23.239 --> 0:47:25.080
<v Speaker 1>like in the mid eighteen hundreds or so is when

0:47:25.080 --> 0:47:27.000
<v Speaker 1>they figure out how to vulcanized rubber, which is what

0:47:27.120 --> 0:47:29.600
<v Speaker 1>makes it like nice and shiny and stable and it

0:47:29.640 --> 0:47:33.279
<v Speaker 1>doesn't smell weird and fall apart. Um. It's so the

0:47:33.360 --> 0:47:36.400
<v Speaker 1>Macintosh coat becomes popular around this time. People like in

0:47:36.480 --> 0:47:38.719
<v Speaker 1>Europe are just like covered headed tone rubber, like it's

0:47:38.760 --> 0:47:41.360
<v Speaker 1>it's it's everywhere. It's like the fashion of the times.

0:47:41.560 --> 0:47:45.640
<v Speaker 1>People are just flipping out over rubber. Um fetishes are

0:47:45.640 --> 0:47:52.200
<v Speaker 1>born tons exactly, hot air balloons. It's like this one.

0:47:52.200 --> 0:47:54.279
<v Speaker 1>It's a wonder material. It's like the first time people

0:47:54.760 --> 0:47:57.960
<v Speaker 1>they don't have to use glass for everything. Um. So

0:47:58.040 --> 0:48:00.359
<v Speaker 1>everyone's in love with rubber. But there's only two ways

0:48:00.440 --> 0:48:04.040
<v Speaker 1>to make rubber at that time, vines and trees. Now

0:48:04.120 --> 0:48:08.480
<v Speaker 1>rubber vines grew wild all around the Congo. The two

0:48:08.480 --> 0:48:11.879
<v Speaker 1>ways are vines and trees. There's rubber vines and there rubbers. Yeah,

0:48:11.920 --> 0:48:15.320
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was going to be vegetation and chemistry. No,

0:48:15.480 --> 0:48:17.600
<v Speaker 1>they hadn't. They didn't. They do now we can make

0:48:18.480 --> 0:48:22.000
<v Speaker 1>but they hadn't figured that ship out. Um So, actually

0:48:22.040 --> 0:48:24.400
<v Speaker 1>harvesting all of the rubber from vines like the ones

0:48:24.400 --> 0:48:26.600
<v Speaker 1>who grew in the Congo required thousands and thousands of

0:48:26.600 --> 0:48:28.759
<v Speaker 1>people climbing trees in the jungle. There's the risk of

0:48:28.800 --> 0:48:31.120
<v Speaker 1>snake bite and monster attacks, and it's just it's just

0:48:31.160 --> 0:48:35.600
<v Speaker 1>a nightmare harvesting, Yeah, at large scale in the Congo.

0:48:36.040 --> 0:48:38.880
<v Speaker 1>Harvesting rubber from trees, on the other hand, is really easy,

0:48:39.000 --> 0:48:41.840
<v Speaker 1>and some enterprising people had already started planting groves of

0:48:41.920 --> 0:48:45.080
<v Speaker 1>rubber trees in South America, but those trees took about

0:48:45.080 --> 0:48:48.279
<v Speaker 1>twenty years or so to really get going. So Leopold

0:48:48.719 --> 0:48:51.040
<v Speaker 1>standing here in charge of the Congo knows that he

0:48:51.080 --> 0:48:54.320
<v Speaker 1>has about twenty years to be the world's leading producer

0:48:54.440 --> 0:48:58.239
<v Speaker 1>of rubber. The Congo Free State wasn't basically just a

0:48:58.280 --> 0:49:01.359
<v Speaker 1>giant rubber factory. That was his whole vision for this

0:49:01.480 --> 0:49:05.359
<v Speaker 1>land filled with millions of people. This is like the

0:49:05.400 --> 0:49:10.080
<v Speaker 1>actual story of Willie Wonka. Yeah, he's the real Willie Wonka.

0:49:10.640 --> 0:49:16.080
<v Speaker 1>Jesus Christ. So, I remember when I said that Leopold

0:49:16.120 --> 0:49:19.440
<v Speaker 1>had the right to collect taxes in the form of labor. Well,

0:49:20.160 --> 0:49:22.680
<v Speaker 1>he used these taxes to make Congolese people go harvest

0:49:22.760 --> 0:49:24.960
<v Speaker 1>rubber for him. In theory, I think he was allowed

0:49:25.000 --> 0:49:27.040
<v Speaker 1>to only demand like forty hours a month from them

0:49:27.120 --> 0:49:28.960
<v Speaker 1>or something. But what happened is that he would have

0:49:29.000 --> 0:49:31.520
<v Speaker 1>his soldiers go from village to village and take hostages.

0:49:31.960 --> 0:49:34.600
<v Speaker 1>These hostages would be put in concentration camps where they'd

0:49:34.600 --> 0:49:37.240
<v Speaker 1>be starved and beaten until the village met its rubber quota.

0:49:37.480 --> 0:49:39.719
<v Speaker 1>So if you didn't get all the rubber that you

0:49:39.719 --> 0:49:42.239
<v Speaker 1>were supposed to get soon enough, your family would just

0:49:42.280 --> 0:49:46.840
<v Speaker 1>starve to get Uh. Leopold's government did have a problem

0:49:46.880 --> 0:49:50.880
<v Speaker 1>because obviously it needs soldiers to enforce these nightmarish rules.

0:49:50.880 --> 0:49:54.040
<v Speaker 1>But white people die like crazy in the Congo um,

0:49:54.080 --> 0:49:56.080
<v Speaker 1>Like a more than a third of the Belgians who

0:49:56.080 --> 0:49:58.680
<v Speaker 1>went there died there. And since again it's illegal for

0:49:58.719 --> 0:50:02.279
<v Speaker 1>Africans to be officers and force publique, uh, there would

0:50:02.280 --> 0:50:04.640
<v Speaker 1>wind up being like four or five Belgian guys commanding

0:50:04.680 --> 0:50:07.960
<v Speaker 1>hundreds and hundreds of African soldiers. So that's like, obviously

0:50:08.239 --> 0:50:10.719
<v Speaker 1>you're treating these guys terribly. You're making the massacre of

0:50:10.719 --> 0:50:12.680
<v Speaker 1>their own people, and there's five of you for every

0:50:12.680 --> 0:50:16.680
<v Speaker 1>five hundred of them. That's like a recipe for a revolution,

0:50:17.160 --> 0:50:20.240
<v Speaker 1>or it would be if the soldiers had free access

0:50:20.280 --> 0:50:23.440
<v Speaker 1>to bullets. One of the ways the Belgians controlled their

0:50:23.560 --> 0:50:26.680
<v Speaker 1>army was by heavily restricting when anybody would get bullets,

0:50:26.680 --> 0:50:29.640
<v Speaker 1>and by policing their AMMO so they couldn't hide any away.

0:50:29.719 --> 0:50:32.120
<v Speaker 1>So each soldier would only be issued a certain amount

0:50:32.160 --> 0:50:34.480
<v Speaker 1>of AMMO when they go out to get rubber, and

0:50:34.520 --> 0:50:37.439
<v Speaker 1>if they fired any rounds, they had to account for them.

0:50:37.520 --> 0:50:40.080
<v Speaker 1>The general policy and the congo became that if you

0:50:40.160 --> 0:50:42.759
<v Speaker 1>fired around, you had to provide a right hand from

0:50:42.760 --> 0:50:45.440
<v Speaker 1>a corpse for every round that you shot. This was

0:50:45.480 --> 0:50:47.600
<v Speaker 1>meant to stop people from stockpiling AMMO, and it was

0:50:47.640 --> 0:50:50.440
<v Speaker 1>meant to stop them from like hunting for animals when

0:50:50.440 --> 0:50:53.440
<v Speaker 1>they should have been, you know, shooting people. Um what

0:50:53.600 --> 0:50:56.920
<v Speaker 1>this actually meant? Yeah, exactly so, but that creates a

0:50:56.960 --> 0:51:02.080
<v Speaker 1>market for right hands. Exactly possibly go wrong. Yeah, For

0:51:02.120 --> 0:51:04.760
<v Speaker 1>one thing, these soldiers aren't fed enough, so they're starving

0:51:04.760 --> 0:51:06.719
<v Speaker 1>and they start hunting, and then once they fired a

0:51:06.719 --> 0:51:08.560
<v Speaker 1>couple of rounds to hunt an animal, they need to

0:51:08.560 --> 0:51:11.000
<v Speaker 1>pick up. Okay, we we we fired three rounds getting

0:51:11.000 --> 0:51:14.160
<v Speaker 1>that that whatever it is. Now we need three hands.

0:51:14.520 --> 0:51:16.440
<v Speaker 1>So we need to go into a village. We need

0:51:16.480 --> 0:51:19.319
<v Speaker 1>to take some people's hands. And in addition to that,

0:51:19.440 --> 0:51:22.600
<v Speaker 1>like it becomes common if if a village refuses to

0:51:23.000 --> 0:51:24.920
<v Speaker 1>provide rubber, like people like we're not going to work

0:51:24.920 --> 0:51:26.320
<v Speaker 1>to you, We're not going to give up our relatives

0:51:26.320 --> 0:51:28.840
<v Speaker 1>as hostages. The Force Publique would just burned down the

0:51:28.840 --> 0:51:33.520
<v Speaker 1>whole village. Sometimes they just kill everybody in the entire village. Um.

0:51:33.560 --> 0:51:37.360
<v Speaker 1>And this this is happening on basically an industrial scale.

0:51:37.400 --> 0:51:40.200
<v Speaker 1>In nineteen o three, a single rubber collecting post was

0:51:40.239 --> 0:51:43.520
<v Speaker 1>sent more than forty replacement rounds of ammunition to every

0:51:43.640 --> 0:51:47.960
<v Speaker 1>round that they're being sent. They've got a hand. Um. Yeah.

0:51:48.080 --> 0:51:50.560
<v Speaker 1>So like the military units in the Force Publique even

0:51:50.600 --> 0:51:52.759
<v Speaker 1>would have a keeper of the hands whose job was

0:51:52.800 --> 0:51:55.720
<v Speaker 1>to smoke all of the severed hands so that they preserve,

0:51:55.800 --> 0:51:58.680
<v Speaker 1>so that you could go back to the authority. We

0:51:58.719 --> 0:52:03.920
<v Speaker 1>need twenty more bullets. Here's twenty thou human hands, Jesus Christ. Yeah.

0:52:04.160 --> 0:52:07.200
<v Speaker 1>So in five, when this whole operation is just getting

0:52:07.200 --> 0:52:09.680
<v Speaker 1>off the ground, King Leopold is named in British Court

0:52:09.719 --> 0:52:12.640
<v Speaker 1>as a client of what the British called a disorderly house.

0:52:13.320 --> 0:52:17.440
<v Speaker 1>Can you guess what a disorderly house was? Uh? Probably

0:52:17.520 --> 0:52:21.480
<v Speaker 1>not enough. It's the Hottish a go for it. Yeah,

0:52:21.719 --> 0:52:26.040
<v Speaker 1>it's it's a brothel. So while this is all starting off,

0:52:26.160 --> 0:52:29.200
<v Speaker 1>King sorry to a horhouse in England, I thought, I

0:52:29.239 --> 0:52:32.560
<v Speaker 1>thought you disorderly house meant like his dukedom didn't have

0:52:32.760 --> 0:52:35.960
<v Speaker 1>like x or y like paperwork filed. No, no no.

0:52:36.040 --> 0:52:39.680
<v Speaker 1>While he's freshly the king of the Belgian Congo, he's

0:52:39.719 --> 0:52:43.319
<v Speaker 1>named in British court as a client of a whorehouse. Uh.

0:52:43.320 --> 0:52:45.400
<v Speaker 1>And they say that he had been paying eight hundred

0:52:45.440 --> 0:52:48.280
<v Speaker 1>pounds a month for a steady supply of young women,

0:52:48.360 --> 0:52:50.839
<v Speaker 1>some of whom were ten to fifteen years old. That's so,

0:52:51.080 --> 0:52:55.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's what Leopold's doing in between administering the Congo. Yeah. Um.

0:52:55.840 --> 0:52:57.760
<v Speaker 1>And while he's doing that, his men in the Congo

0:52:57.840 --> 0:53:00.719
<v Speaker 1>are building a system of Rhodes railways, post and steamboats

0:53:00.760 --> 0:53:03.160
<v Speaker 1>that are meant to allow the rubber making operation to prosper.

0:53:03.600 --> 0:53:05.680
<v Speaker 1>Leopold doesn't want to pay for all this himself, so

0:53:05.719 --> 0:53:08.279
<v Speaker 1>he claimed the infrastructure is necessary so that the Free

0:53:08.280 --> 0:53:13.000
<v Speaker 1>States Army can fight those dastardly Arab slavers. Um got

0:53:13.000 --> 0:53:15.360
<v Speaker 1>the US to pay for it, or just generally he

0:53:15.480 --> 0:53:18.040
<v Speaker 1>got everyone wants to pay for it. So he gotten

0:53:18.080 --> 0:53:20.080
<v Speaker 1>Europe on board with this by saying the Congo was

0:53:20.120 --> 0:53:22.400
<v Speaker 1>going to be a free trade zone. But then he's like,

0:53:22.480 --> 0:53:24.719
<v Speaker 1>we need to build all this infrastructure in order to

0:53:24.800 --> 0:53:28.080
<v Speaker 1>fight the slavers, so we're gonna have to collect import taxes.

0:53:28.080 --> 0:53:33.279
<v Speaker 1>Now he's just he like the one that you can

0:53:33.320 --> 0:53:35.680
<v Speaker 1>trust Leopold to do is he will funck over every

0:53:35.719 --> 0:53:39.520
<v Speaker 1>single person. Ye. So now even these countries who had

0:53:39.560 --> 0:53:41.120
<v Speaker 1>like gotten on board because they thought this was a

0:53:41.160 --> 0:53:43.840
<v Speaker 1>free trade zone, they're getting screwed. And of course the

0:53:43.880 --> 0:53:46.560
<v Speaker 1>millions of people whose hands he's having severed and unscrewed.

0:53:46.760 --> 0:53:49.319
<v Speaker 1>I guess the key is just never stopped lying. Yeah,

0:53:50.440 --> 0:53:52.719
<v Speaker 1>whenever you read about any of these guys. That is

0:53:52.760 --> 0:53:56.200
<v Speaker 1>the most important thing. He's never ever stopped lying. If

0:53:56.239 --> 0:53:59.279
<v Speaker 1>you're going to be a monster, you have to lie,

0:53:59.400 --> 0:54:03.840
<v Speaker 1>consist only for decades about everything. All right, Yeah, I'm in.

0:54:04.120 --> 0:54:08.879
<v Speaker 1>It works, Yeah, No, I mean I'm in. Well, you'll

0:54:08.920 --> 0:54:13.880
<v Speaker 1>be a great king of the Congo. Um so uh.

0:54:13.960 --> 0:54:16.960
<v Speaker 1>To Leopold's credit, his men did fight Arab slave traders,

0:54:17.000 --> 0:54:19.880
<v Speaker 1>but most of the fighting was done by conscripted African

0:54:19.880 --> 0:54:24.040
<v Speaker 1>soldiers who were themselves basically slaves. Yeah. Yeah. King Leopold

0:54:24.080 --> 0:54:27.080
<v Speaker 1>personally endorsed a system where white agents of the Free

0:54:27.120 --> 0:54:29.000
<v Speaker 1>State got a bonus if they were able to find

0:54:29.160 --> 0:54:32.200
<v Speaker 1>more recruits for the Force Publique. Many agents wound up

0:54:32.200 --> 0:54:34.440
<v Speaker 1>buying them in from various chiefs and effect doing the

0:54:34.480 --> 0:54:36.680
<v Speaker 1>same thing as the Arab slavers they bragged about fighting.

0:54:37.000 --> 0:54:41.040
<v Speaker 1>State agents also got bonuses for quote reducing recruiting expenses,

0:54:41.280 --> 0:54:43.839
<v Speaker 1>so if they outright enslaved people rather than paid them

0:54:43.880 --> 0:54:46.520
<v Speaker 1>to join, they got more money in their pocket. As

0:54:46.520 --> 0:54:49.319
<v Speaker 1>many as three quarters of all volunteers for the Force

0:54:49.360 --> 0:54:52.359
<v Speaker 1>Publique died before they could receive training. Most of those

0:54:52.440 --> 0:54:57.880
<v Speaker 1>volunteers were teenagers, right, yeah, so they're just volunteers, quote unquote,

0:54:58.080 --> 0:55:02.239
<v Speaker 1>that's fucking incredible. It was like, we have our indentured

0:55:02.320 --> 0:55:05.880
<v Speaker 1>servant army is going to fight your slave arm So

0:55:05.920 --> 0:55:10.240
<v Speaker 1>basically the Congo at this point is groups of white

0:55:10.239 --> 0:55:12.719
<v Speaker 1>guys with soldiers going into the jungle to collect a

0:55:12.719 --> 0:55:15.360
<v Speaker 1>bunch of other soldiers and they'll put them in chains

0:55:15.520 --> 0:55:17.200
<v Speaker 1>and like march them through the jungle and most of

0:55:17.200 --> 0:55:18.840
<v Speaker 1>them will die, and then they'll train those guys up

0:55:18.880 --> 0:55:21.120
<v Speaker 1>to fight, and they'll take those guys into the jungle

0:55:21.400 --> 0:55:23.719
<v Speaker 1>to tell people to collect rubber from people, and to

0:55:23.800 --> 0:55:27.680
<v Speaker 1>kill everyone who doesn't provide enough rubber, and to kill

0:55:27.719 --> 0:55:29.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the people who do provide enough rubber,

0:55:29.600 --> 0:55:32.640
<v Speaker 1>just because these kids are like starving to death, and

0:55:32.680 --> 0:55:35.360
<v Speaker 1>maybe they have to shoot an animal, or maybe there's

0:55:35.440 --> 0:55:37.799
<v Speaker 1>rebels and they get into a firefight, but they don't,

0:55:39.040 --> 0:55:40.879
<v Speaker 1>and then you got to take hands from the So

0:55:41.280 --> 0:55:44.200
<v Speaker 1>it just keeps spiraling out of control and becoming like

0:55:44.280 --> 0:55:47.319
<v Speaker 1>even more of a nightmare to everybody but Leopold, because

0:55:47.360 --> 0:55:51.120
<v Speaker 1>again he's sitting back in Belgium this time. Um. Since

0:55:51.200 --> 0:55:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Leopold was the absolute monarch, he got to rule by

0:55:53.680 --> 0:55:56.840
<v Speaker 1>royal decree. His first decree was that all quote vacant

0:55:56.920 --> 0:56:00.000
<v Speaker 1>land was now property of the state. He didn't explain

0:56:00.000 --> 0:56:02.640
<v Speaker 1>in what vacant meant, because obviously farmers don't live on

0:56:02.719 --> 0:56:05.160
<v Speaker 1>every inch of their farmland, so basically most of the

0:56:05.200 --> 0:56:07.600
<v Speaker 1>land in the Congo was now just his. Uh. He

0:56:07.719 --> 0:56:10.200
<v Speaker 1>leased this land to a series of private corporations. And

0:56:10.200 --> 0:56:12.520
<v Speaker 1>this gets to the real brilliance of his scheme because

0:56:12.600 --> 0:56:15.239
<v Speaker 1>Leopold didn't have to dirty his hands actually running any

0:56:15.239 --> 0:56:18.200
<v Speaker 1>of the rubber harvesting. He was able to private right. Yeah,

0:56:18.400 --> 0:56:21.239
<v Speaker 1>other people paid for their right to mind rubber and

0:56:21.239 --> 0:56:23.560
<v Speaker 1>cut off hands and do all the actual work, and

0:56:23.680 --> 0:56:26.480
<v Speaker 1>LEOPOLDLD owned the rights to a huge chunk of their profits.

0:56:26.680 --> 0:56:29.239
<v Speaker 1>So basically, these companies would come in and give him

0:56:29.280 --> 0:56:34.080
<v Speaker 1>an owning stake in the corporation, licensed the scheme of

0:56:35.239 --> 0:56:39.520
<v Speaker 1>incliving people, cutting off their hands, etcetera. Yeah. Adam hash

0:56:39.640 --> 0:56:42.799
<v Speaker 1>Child in King Leopold's Ghost compares the Congo Free State

0:56:42.840 --> 0:56:46.160
<v Speaker 1>to a venture capital firm. Quote he had essentially found

0:56:46.160 --> 0:56:49.080
<v Speaker 1>a way to attract other people's capital to his investment schemes.

0:56:49.080 --> 0:56:51.640
<v Speaker 1>While he retained half the proceeds. In the end, what

0:56:51.719 --> 0:56:54.120
<v Speaker 1>with various taxes and fees the companies paid the state,

0:56:54.280 --> 0:56:57.680
<v Speaker 1>it came to more than half. So in the eighteen nineties,

0:56:57.719 --> 0:57:00.560
<v Speaker 1>the Congo Free State really starts putting out rubber, and

0:57:00.560 --> 0:57:02.560
<v Speaker 1>suddenly King Leopold is one of the richest guys in

0:57:02.600 --> 0:57:05.880
<v Speaker 1>the world. He starts buying gigantic monuments and palaces and

0:57:05.880 --> 0:57:08.520
<v Speaker 1>shipped for Belgium, big showy projects, some of which are

0:57:08.520 --> 0:57:11.000
<v Speaker 1>still there, and it is to make people like him.

0:57:11.000 --> 0:57:13.760
<v Speaker 1>It's to keep him popular at home. He's succeeding beyond

0:57:13.760 --> 0:57:15.640
<v Speaker 1>his wildest dreams in the business side of things, but

0:57:15.680 --> 0:57:18.000
<v Speaker 1>his personal life is just kind of one series of

0:57:18.040 --> 0:57:22.040
<v Speaker 1>train Wrex after the other. Um. Yeah, his son had

0:57:22.080 --> 0:57:24.920
<v Speaker 1>died in eighteen sixty four, which led to an understandable

0:57:25.000 --> 0:57:27.760
<v Speaker 1>estrangement between Leopold and his wife. It took eight years

0:57:27.800 --> 0:57:29.440
<v Speaker 1>before they could stand to be around each other and

0:57:29.480 --> 0:57:32.880
<v Speaker 1>try again. This passage from Leopold's biography tells you a

0:57:32.920 --> 0:57:36.480
<v Speaker 1>lot about the relationships between the sexes. In the eighteen

0:57:36.520 --> 0:57:39.680
<v Speaker 1>sixties quote, Leopold the Second was anxious to have a

0:57:39.720 --> 0:57:42.840
<v Speaker 1>male heir, and in eighteen seventy two Queen Marie Henriette

0:57:42.880 --> 0:57:46.280
<v Speaker 1>consented to resume conjugal life with her royal spouse, from

0:57:46.280 --> 0:57:49.800
<v Speaker 1>whom she had separated some time before. She sacrificed herself,

0:57:49.840 --> 0:57:52.640
<v Speaker 1>as one may say, for her country. A child was

0:57:52.680 --> 0:57:54.880
<v Speaker 1>born unto them, but alas it was a daughter and

0:57:54.920 --> 0:57:58.200
<v Speaker 1>not a son, which was given unto them, So that's

0:57:58.200 --> 0:58:00.440
<v Speaker 1>messed up for a lot of reasons. She's one of

0:58:00.440 --> 0:58:03.240
<v Speaker 1>which is just that Even in the pro Leopold biography,

0:58:03.320 --> 0:58:06.960
<v Speaker 1>it just admits that having sex with Leopold is a sacrifice.

0:58:07.120 --> 0:58:11.080
<v Speaker 1>I actually I'm surprised that the amount of agency she has,

0:58:11.120 --> 0:58:14.120
<v Speaker 1>like she you know, she is the queen facing pressure,

0:58:14.200 --> 0:58:18.680
<v Speaker 1>but it wasn't force that guillotined point or whatever she

0:58:18.760 --> 0:58:21.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of was. I guess that's true. I guess that's

0:58:21.520 --> 0:58:24.600
<v Speaker 1>between the lines, of course. Yeah, Jesus, it's I mean,

0:58:24.600 --> 0:58:27.200
<v Speaker 1>she probably has more agency than the average. But at

0:58:27.200 --> 0:58:28.840
<v Speaker 1>the same time, in the way she is less because

0:58:29.400 --> 0:58:32.280
<v Speaker 1>it's less important for a commoner to have a son,

0:58:32.880 --> 0:58:35.040
<v Speaker 1>because like the king, that's like the whole dynasty things.

0:58:35.160 --> 0:58:38.280
<v Speaker 1>You might say she has even less. Um, we probably

0:58:38.280 --> 0:58:43.360
<v Speaker 1>should say, yeah, we probably would be. Um. So, yeah,

0:58:43.480 --> 0:58:46.760
<v Speaker 1>Leopold did not take having a daughter very well. Uh.

0:58:46.840 --> 0:58:50.960
<v Speaker 1>This quote is from King Leopold's ghost. When the last daughter, Clementine,

0:58:51.000 --> 0:58:53.480
<v Speaker 1>was born, according to his sister Louise, the king was

0:58:53.520 --> 0:58:56.240
<v Speaker 1>furious and thenceforth refused to have anything to do with

0:58:56.280 --> 0:58:59.720
<v Speaker 1>his admirable wife from the beginning. She wrote, quote, the

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<v Speaker 1>king paid very little attention to me or my sister's.

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<v Speaker 1>So he doesn't pay attention to his daughters, and he

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<v Speaker 1>mostly seems to care when one of them, like fox

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<v Speaker 1>with his garden. Um, here's a recollection from Luis. Large,

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<v Speaker 1>juicy peaches grew on the walls of the gardens, and

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<v Speaker 1>the king was very proud of them. I had a

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<v Speaker 1>passion for peaches, and one day I dared to eat one,

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<v Speaker 1>which was hidden away among the leaves. And that year

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<v Speaker 1>peaches were plentiful. But the following day the king discovered

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<v Speaker 1>the theft. What a dramatic moment. At once suspected, I

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<v Speaker 1>confessed my crime and was promptly punished. I did not

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<v Speaker 1>realize that the king counted his peaches. So while Leopold

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<v Speaker 1>is running a nightmare hand harvesting rubber making scheme in

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<v Speaker 1>the Congo, he's got enough time to make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>his daughter doesn't steal a peach from himself. Because it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>at least Ivanka Trump has the decency to pretend that

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<v Speaker 1>she loved her tie with her daddy, even though like

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<v Speaker 1>in all those like stories she tells, it's sad and

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<v Speaker 1>weird too, but it's like, at least she's like, I

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<v Speaker 1>love him. He's my dad, you know, And I believe

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<v Speaker 1>in all this sha he couldn't even get his daughters

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<v Speaker 1>to be like I love Well, there's gonna be more

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<v Speaker 1>about his daughter's coming in. He's he is not a

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<v Speaker 1>great dad. Yeah, if you can't sell that already. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>there's in fact no evidence that Leopold cared about any

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<v Speaker 1>of his children as anything more than vehicles for his legacy.

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<v Speaker 1>Even that fawning nineteen ten biography can't make it seem

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<v Speaker 1>like Leopold had a single funk for his family as

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<v Speaker 1>King Leo, I'm gonna be honest, that's so far the

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<v Speaker 1>most relatable thing about it, just not liking his family.

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<v Speaker 1>As King, Leopold grew older and richer, he also became

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<v Speaker 1>a full on hypochondriac. He took to wearing a waterproof

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<v Speaker 1>bag around his gigantic beard whenever he went outside in

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<v Speaker 1>the rain or when he swam. He required his palace

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<v Speaker 1>tablecloths to be boiled every day to kill any germs,

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<v Speaker 1>which is at least a character evolution from not letting

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<v Speaker 1>them wash his sheets. Yeah, napkin, Um yeah for him,

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<v Speaker 1>So he's changing, He's had his own little heroes journey. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we all get there. Yeah, hypochondria. Um. This wind up

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<v Speaker 1>being another really really long one. There was just so

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<v Speaker 1>much research, So um, this is gonna be a two

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<v Speaker 1>parter podcast and the second part is going to drop

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<v Speaker 1>on Thursday. Uh so we'll be getting into the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of Leopold's story and the tremendously dark story of the Congo.

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<v Speaker 1>So so stick around, check back out on Thursday. It's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be great. In the meantime, you can check out

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<v Speaker 1>back on Thursday with more Leopold, so check us out then.