WEBVTT - Ousted Miss NC Speaks Out: Conservative Christian Beliefs, NOT Racist Posts Cost Her Crown!

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<v Speaker 1>Evolks.

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<v Speaker 2>It is Saturday, August eighth, and Miss North Carolina lost

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<v Speaker 2>her crown earlier this week after old posts connected to

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<v Speaker 2>her using the inward surfaced. But she is now talking

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<v Speaker 2>and says that's not really why she lost her crown.

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<v Speaker 2>And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ.

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<v Speaker 1>Romes.

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<v Speaker 2>We to a degree defended this young lady. Now I'm

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<v Speaker 2>okay with her losing her crown.

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<v Speaker 3>This is insane to me. I'm okay to listen to

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<v Speaker 3>her defend herself. And look, we'll go over what she said,

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<v Speaker 3>but what was more shocking to me was what she

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<v Speaker 3>did not say. It was remarkable she sat down with

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<v Speaker 3>a local newspaper there in North Carolina to talk about

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<v Speaker 3>losing her crown, and I have to.

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<v Speaker 4>Say it was not what I was expecting.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Brittany Bolton House.

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<v Speaker 2>We told you about her earlier this week, and she's

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<v Speaker 2>a young lady who just a month ago one the

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<v Speaker 2>Miss North Carolina crown. Now later this month, the Miss

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<v Speaker 2>USA pageant is supposed to take place, and she was

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to represent North Carolina.

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<v Speaker 1>That ain't happening because the.

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<v Speaker 2>Organization there in North Carolina came out with a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>lengthy statement a lot of words. Didn't say much, but

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<v Speaker 2>said a lot of words. They didn't get into specifics

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<v Speaker 2>about why they were taking the crown away, but they

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<v Speaker 2>used some pretty big words like racism.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and some phobias.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, the Miss USA pageant put out, Yes, they didn't

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<v Speaker 3>detail any specific examples, but trust us. Some news organizations

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<v Speaker 3>did find some old social media posts that correlated with

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<v Speaker 3>what the pageant was saying. But the Miss USA pageant

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<v Speaker 3>officially said that they conducted a thorough review of recently

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<v Speaker 3>surfaced information aka the social media posts, and then went

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<v Speaker 3>on to say that the pageant does not tolerate racism, homophobia, transphobia,

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<v Speaker 3>or language that strips any person of their dignity, whoever

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<v Speaker 3>they are now big Yes, But the North Carolina Beat,

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<v Speaker 3>the news organization there in North Carolina, found several several

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<v Speaker 3>posts from twenty seventeen to twenty nineteen repeatedly using the

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<v Speaker 3>N word.

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<v Speaker 5>There were other posts in front of you, I do

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<v Speaker 5>okay can I And it's and it's worth reading because

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<v Speaker 5>we're we're trying to give you a better idea of

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<v Speaker 5>what we're dealing with and why her response now that

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<v Speaker 5>she's done an interview was so disappointing.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you don't want to do with the in

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<v Speaker 1>word stuff, I'll do with it ropes.

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<v Speaker 3>If you can show it to me, let me just

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<v Speaker 3>hand this over to you because I would rather not.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you can reference how you want to reference it.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's a bunch. So I just staw from the

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<v Speaker 2>top using the inn word. This in word has me

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<v Speaker 2>fifty shades of fucked up. If my inward don't like you,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like you. Another your girl don't like me,

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<v Speaker 2>but your inward does. Another A long post was to

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<v Speaker 2>say here flashing random inwards and letting them take shots

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<v Speaker 2>off her all spring break. She's just what this is is.

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<v Speaker 2>She's not referring to a person or using in a

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<v Speaker 2>racist way. What this is as a young lady who

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<v Speaker 2>has made this a part of her vocabulary as a teenager.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm sure whoever she might have been around was

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<v Speaker 2>giving her permission to do so. But she was putting

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<v Speaker 2>this out publicly as a seventeen eighteen nineteen, which is

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<v Speaker 2>what she would have been at the time. But she's

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<v Speaker 2>using it liberally, loosely. It's a part of her vocabulary.

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<v Speaker 2>She has no problem saying it she is not black?

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<v Speaker 2>Was it Hondurans in Mexican and this her background? We

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<v Speaker 2>talked about this, Robes. Yes, sometimes kids Latinos and blacks

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<v Speaker 2>grow up in the same neighborhoods, right next to each other,

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<v Speaker 2>and they come up using some of the same words.

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<v Speaker 2>This isn't necessarily foreign. But she didn't. Again, Robes, I

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<v Speaker 2>was trying to give her space for that.

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<v Speaker 4>You did give her space.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to make it look if anyone wants to

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<v Speaker 3>go back and listen to our episode on Thursday, I

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<v Speaker 3>was blown away at the grace you gave this young

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<v Speaker 3>lady and the explanation you gave maybe a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>us white people in the room listening some understanding of

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<v Speaker 3>where you were coming from about giving her that grace.

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<v Speaker 3>I was actually shocked that you were as kind and

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<v Speaker 3>understanding as you were given the fact that she's a

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<v Speaker 3>daughter of immigrants and has brown skin and may have

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<v Speaker 3>grown up in a different community.

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<v Speaker 2>Been there done that scene at plenty And if you're

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<v Speaker 2>not familiar with it, then are you familiar with Fat

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<v Speaker 2>Joe a rapper who is not black but grew up

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<v Speaker 2>in the Bronx right next to black folks.

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<v Speaker 1>He is I always mess this up is a Dominican

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<v Speaker 1>and Cuban and always mix it up.

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<v Speaker 2>But Latino, yes he is. But his biggest hit he

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<v Speaker 2>uses the in word in the chorus liberally. He does

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<v Speaker 2>it throughout his music. He has made a particular song

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<v Speaker 2>in which he makes light of it and just says

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<v Speaker 2>the in word like twelve times in a row. What

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying is that is what I saw when I

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<v Speaker 2>saw her text messages initially, and why I was willing

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<v Speaker 2>to give her some grace. The rule still applies if

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<v Speaker 2>you ain't black, you should not be saying the N word.

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<v Speaker 2>But as a teenager, I was saying, okay, maybe we

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<v Speaker 2>should sit down and talk and listen and understand. Now

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<v Speaker 2>she's talking, Now I'm done.

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<v Speaker 4>It's jaw dropping.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, we were waiting for her official response because we

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<v Speaker 3>heard from the local Miss North Carolina USA pageant. We

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<v Speaker 3>heard from the Miss USA pageant, and they were basically

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<v Speaker 3>giving her space to say what she wanted. And I

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<v Speaker 3>you probably most of us were used to people getting

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<v Speaker 3>called out for saying the N word. Maybe it was

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<v Speaker 3>years earlier, and apologizing, recognizing what they did wrong, learning

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<v Speaker 3>from their mistakes, and putting out a very pr statement.

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<v Speaker 3>This young lady sat down with the Carolina Journal and

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<v Speaker 3>doubled down.

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<v Speaker 2>She first of all, I didn't even think she that's

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<v Speaker 2>the thing for.

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<v Speaker 4>She refused to acknowledge it.

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<v Speaker 2>She she didn't even she didn't defend, she did nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>She wasn't challenged on it. She was in chashed. This

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<v Speaker 2>was a this was the question that you start with

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<v Speaker 2>off the top. Is that word still a part of

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<v Speaker 2>your vocabulary? If it's not, when did it leave? If

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<v Speaker 2>it is, why, also why was it a part of

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<v Speaker 2>your vocabulary? Then I'm willing to listen to her answer,

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<v Speaker 2>which is probably simply yeah, I grew up around and

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<v Speaker 2>da da da da da da da. This is not

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<v Speaker 2>a This is not a this is not a problem.

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<v Speaker 2>You already lost the crown. You're not going to do

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<v Speaker 2>worse damage or anything. I cannot believe the direction she's gone.

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<v Speaker 2>I cannot believe it. I don't we don't know this

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<v Speaker 2>young lady. So I don't want to condemn, but I

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<v Speaker 2>cannot believe this.

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<v Speaker 3>She made it very clear that she believes her Mormon

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<v Speaker 3>faith and her outspoken conservative views she is pro Trump,

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<v Speaker 3>are the reason why she was dethroned. She said that

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<v Speaker 3>clearly and plainly, and look, I'm not trying to throw

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<v Speaker 3>the young woman who was the reporter under the bus here,

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<v Speaker 3>a white blonde woman.

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<v Speaker 4>And she did not push her, she did not press her.

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<v Speaker 4>She never she.

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<v Speaker 3>Vaguely and tried to give her her excuse about these posts.

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<v Speaker 3>And I know you were young, and really just tried

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<v Speaker 3>to give her this out and she said, I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>here to talk about that. She said, the only the

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<v Speaker 3>closest thing she came to acknowledging that she used the

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<v Speaker 3>N word repeatedly for years on it and it possibly

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<v Speaker 3>this led to her actually being dethroned. She said, this

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<v Speaker 3>was her quote. Every teenager has made a mistake. Every

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<v Speaker 3>person here has made a mistake. I'm not really here

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<v Speaker 3>to talk about that. I'm here to talk about the

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<v Speaker 3>woman I am today, the hard working woman, the woman

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<v Speaker 3>that was standing up there is miss North Carolina, USA.

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<v Speaker 3>That I won fair and square.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is why. And here we go. I hate

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<v Speaker 1>I hate this story.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate it because it was an opportunity to do

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<v Speaker 2>something to get folks. We sat in here and I

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<v Speaker 2>saw a light bulb go off because you had no

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<v Speaker 2>idea what I was talking about. That was an opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>there really was gonna do. She is gonna do make

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<v Speaker 2>herself a maga hero, and they're gonna embrace her. They're like, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>look at what they did to a beauty queen. And

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<v Speaker 2>she used the in word.

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<v Speaker 1>We love that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what's gonna happen. Babe, you are not. I just

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<v Speaker 2>we don't know the young lady. So I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 2>give it a beat. And I know when press is

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<v Speaker 2>coming at you, Median, what are you gonna do next?

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<v Speaker 2>But Robes, This was thirteen minutes of an interview, and

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen seconds were spent on the fact that she blurted

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<v Speaker 2>out the in word repeatedly.

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<v Speaker 1>And who gives a fuck it was?

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<v Speaker 2>Because that's not even the problem, that's no issue. Who

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<v Speaker 2>cares about that. I'm just again I try to leave

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<v Speaker 2>space of making mistake and all a making mistake in

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<v Speaker 2>the interview Robes, but this is once again damaging and

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<v Speaker 2>it is gonna be a fight. And now I wish

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<v Speaker 2>the black girl wasn't the runner up because now she's

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<v Speaker 2>got to do what go out there and be the

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<v Speaker 2>fucking rights DEI candidate.

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<v Speaker 1>Now look at her.

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<v Speaker 2>She shouldn't be there. Somebody else got that spot. She

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<v Speaker 2>only got it because they had to take a Maga

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<v Speaker 2>warrior out.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate this story.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate what she has now done to it, and

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<v Speaker 2>I hate we missed another opportunity and we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>do the same crap we do all the time.

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<v Speaker 4>This is it's so true.

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<v Speaker 1>This sucks, man.

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<v Speaker 3>And to your point, not only is she not saying

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<v Speaker 3>she's sorry, not only is she not apologizing talking about

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<v Speaker 3>learning from her lessons using her story as an example

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<v Speaker 3>of what not to do.

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<v Speaker 4>She actually said in terms of what.

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<v Speaker 3>She helps young women see from what happened to her,

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<v Speaker 3>this is her quote. She's now a martyr, babe, this

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<v Speaker 3>is what we see happen oftentimes, she said. I hope

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<v Speaker 3>they see me as an example to always stand up

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<v Speaker 3>for what you believe, no matter what, no matter where,

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<v Speaker 3>you have the right to speak the way that you feel,

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<v Speaker 3>no matter what platform, no matter what belief system. We

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<v Speaker 3>live in a country that we have that ability. And

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<v Speaker 3>that's beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, fine, just fine. I'm just exhausted it is.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's just to me, I don't understand, and I

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<v Speaker 3>wonder if I doubt look for her to say as

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<v Speaker 3>of today, I believe and think I was stripped from

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<v Speaker 3>my title because of my political stance and my belief

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<v Speaker 3>system as a conservative Christian woman. She went on to say,

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<v Speaker 3>all I can say from the information I have today

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<v Speaker 3>is what I believe and think. Honestly, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't really given anything. She also tried to hide

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<v Speaker 3>under this I had to sign a confidentiality agreement thing

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<v Speaker 3>she was absolutely trying to say she couldn't discuss that

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<v Speaker 3>is that is hard to imagine that that's true. But

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<v Speaker 3>she has now turned something into being a victim now

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<v Speaker 3>versus acknowledging mistakes she made having it be a learning.

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<v Speaker 1>Experience still in her vocabulary.

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<v Speaker 3>She did not apologize, say she did not apply it again, if.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't feel maybe she does take the fat Joe approach.

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<v Speaker 2>Fat Joe goes out says it publicly all the time. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>if she wants to take that stance, but it's just

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<v Speaker 2>not to agn knowledge to say, I have v ZA.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, what else we got with this girl? I'm done

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<v Speaker 1>with her.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we don't know what she does with this or

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<v Speaker 3>goes on from here, but we do know that there

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<v Speaker 3>is that new Miss North Carolina, USA.

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<v Speaker 4>When we come back, we will talk about Mila Hatley.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we continue here on this Saturday on Amy

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<v Speaker 2>and TJ. And my apologies to the listening audience here

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<v Speaker 2>this is we don't know this lady. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>Britney Bolton ounce and I don't care what her religious

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<v Speaker 2>beliefs are. And again, you know, I'm always I don't

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<v Speaker 2>like when we throw people away when they make mistakes,

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<v Speaker 2>and they shouldn't be completely condemned and denied or life

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<v Speaker 2>of prestige or fulfillment or even adolation adoration. Excuse me,

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<v Speaker 2>but just this is an opportunity that was missed, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's disappointing once again that it's the point of this

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<v Speaker 2>is that someone, once again, Robes is hooting and hollering

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<v Speaker 2>and screaming and liberally using the N word that's not

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<v Speaker 2>in the black community. We have seen very high profile

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<v Speaker 2>cases of this love island, in particular over the past

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<v Speaker 2>couple of years.

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<v Speaker 1>Robes, we have seen this. Why baby are we seeing it?

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<v Speaker 2>And now she has done something in the conversation that

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<v Speaker 2>once again it goes into the camp of this is okay,

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<v Speaker 2>It goes into the camp of there are no consequences.

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<v Speaker 2>It goes into a camp of let me find another

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<v Speaker 2>way to be a victim. It's not really what I did.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just I hate I hate what's happened here now ropes,

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<v Speaker 2>And so this young lady, I'm trying my bad. We

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<v Speaker 2>don't know her personally, so I'm always trying to be

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<v Speaker 2>careful there. I don't have a problem with her, I

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<v Speaker 2>just have a problem with what she did.

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<v Speaker 3>You know. And look, I think it's fair to say

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<v Speaker 3>anyone listening knows that we are very anti cancel culture.

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<v Speaker 4>The two of us know what it feels like.

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<v Speaker 3>To have things said and written and beliefs created around

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<v Speaker 3>you that are based on falsehoods. And look, we understand,

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<v Speaker 3>and we're very, very understanding of what people go through

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<v Speaker 3>and the fact that people do make mistakes, and people

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<v Speaker 3>aren't and shouldn't be thrown out because of their worst mistake.

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<v Speaker 3>Neither one of us believe this, But to hear a

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<v Speaker 3>young lady who had an opportunity to actually do good

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<v Speaker 3>actually turn it around and say something that we know

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<v Speaker 3>is patently false. She was not stripped of her crown

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<v Speaker 3>because she is a Christian or a Mormon. She was

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<v Speaker 3>not stripped of her crown because she voted for Trump

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<v Speaker 3>and supports President Trump that's patently false, and so it's

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<v Speaker 3>just incredibly sad and frustrating not only to hear her

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<v Speaker 3>pedal that, but then to have.

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<v Speaker 4>A journal not challenge her on it. That was equally

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<v Speaker 4>disturbing to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Babe, Again, I hate to say this about this journalist,

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<v Speaker 3>but it was really frustrating as a journalist to watch her.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't have to be combative or be rude, but

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<v Speaker 4>you do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Our job is to hold people accountable, and when they

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<v Speaker 3>say things that aren't true, and when they say things

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<v Speaker 3>that aren't acknowledging the facts, you, as a journalist, it

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<v Speaker 3>is absolutely your job to hold them accountable to that.

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<v Speaker 4>That is your job.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that lady either, So I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 2>be nice and fair to her.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know what she was uncomfortable about.

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<v Speaker 2>But the phrase in word never came up in a

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<v Speaker 2>thirteen minute interviewer. Nope, not why she never used to

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<v Speaker 2>say some old posts scene you know when you.

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<v Speaker 4>Were a teenager.

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<v Speaker 3>She was like giving her a soft land and like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I understand you were just a teenager.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to take her to task.

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<v Speaker 2>But it is the point of all of this, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the point and she allowed her to take this

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<v Speaker 2>to become a narrative and being condemned for being ropes.

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<v Speaker 2>North Carolina voted for Trump. First of all, right, this.

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<v Speaker 4>Is your she's in a safe state, a safe actually.

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<v Speaker 1>Are so I don't understand.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you see some posts or something of hers from

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<v Speaker 2>having to do with her religion that were so hot button.

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<v Speaker 3>She she has a YouTube channel where she talks about

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<v Speaker 3>her Mormon faith.

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<v Speaker 4>She talks about supporting President Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was well known that she was a Mormon

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<v Speaker 3>and that she was a Trump supporter before she was

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<v Speaker 3>crowned Miss North Carolina, USA. So those aren't the Those

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<v Speaker 3>aren't the posts that surfaced.

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<v Speaker 4>Those have been there all along.

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<v Speaker 3>She's never been shy about the fact that she supports Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>So she won the crown and had the support of

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<v Speaker 3>Miss North Carolina USA.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but we had to take it from her because

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<v Speaker 2>she's a Trump supporter and she's a Christian in Christian

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<v Speaker 2>Trump supporting North Carolina. We had to get her out

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<v Speaker 2>of there. That part doesn't make sense. It doesn't she's what,

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<v Speaker 2>she's brown. Let's get her out of there so we

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<v Speaker 2>can get the black girl in.

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<v Speaker 4>That doesn't make sense, not even a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you lost it because there's fifty frickin' tweets in

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<v Speaker 2>which you're saying nigga over and over and over.

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<v Speaker 4>That's true, Okay, that's the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>That is why it's This would have been a fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>minute interview about nothing but the N word. There's nothing

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<v Speaker 2>else to talk about. Why, dear lady, it's okay, you're

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<v Speaker 2>a teenager. The crown has already lost you know. Tell

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<v Speaker 2>us why is it still a part of your vocabulary?

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<v Speaker 1>Should it be?

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<v Speaker 2>Now we can move on to every Now you're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about young ladies who are okay, you want to talk

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<v Speaker 2>to them who are fourteen, fifteen, sixteen to seventeen. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>young ladies, don't be putting the stuff out there now.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't sing the song and videos. Help yourself because it's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna come back and it's gonna bite you in the butt. Plus,

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<v Speaker 2>you shouldn't be saying that word anyway. Be what you

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<v Speaker 2>say you want to be to young ladies, because how

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<v Speaker 2>many young ladies keep getting opportunities taken away from them

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<v Speaker 2>for this Love Island. You hit the jackpot if you

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<v Speaker 2>get picked on that show. We've seen four women in

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<v Speaker 2>the past two seasons go because of racist stuff. Three

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<v Speaker 2>of them had to do with the N word.

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<v Speaker 1>Am I right? Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>And by the way, I was now now with the

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<v Speaker 3>with the perspective of seeing how this young woman handled it.

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<v Speaker 3>I applaud those Love Island ladies because they apologized, they

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<v Speaker 3>owned it, they apologize for it, and they said they

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<v Speaker 3>are learning from it, and that's what we can hope.

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<v Speaker 4>I like you referenced this before the break.

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<v Speaker 3>But Mala Hadley twenty four years old, black woman, gorgeous, accomplished,

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<v Speaker 3>amazing young woman. What's her What is her experience going

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<v Speaker 3>to be? Like Mala Hadley, the black now the black

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<v Speaker 3>Miss USA? She went Miss North Carolina, USA?

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<v Speaker 4>Is her experience? How how is that going to be

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<v Speaker 4>for her?

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<v Speaker 1>Now?

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<v Speaker 2>I I love it for her if she's not looking online,

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<v Speaker 2>like go enjoy this opportunity came to you. So many people,

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<v Speaker 2>so many opportunities in your life, robes.

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<v Speaker 1>In my life. We can all look back to that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, I wasn't the first pick, absolutely, or I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>that person's first pick, and then when that person got

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<v Speaker 2>out of job, all of a sudden opportunity opened up

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<v Speaker 2>for me asolutely. Bruce Willis is a movie superstar because

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<v Speaker 2>ten dudes turn that roll down on die Hard before

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<v Speaker 2>he got it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, is he gonna show up? The word wasn't the

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<v Speaker 1>first pick. I don't want to.

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<v Speaker 2>No, he became a superstar, roams and I hope she

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<v Speaker 2>takes this opportunity agat like that, take it like that,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, it doesn't matter how it came to you.

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<v Speaker 2>You did everything you were supposed to do, and you

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<v Speaker 2>did it right to get here. Enjoy it, and I

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<v Speaker 2>am rooting for I am pulling for her loudly.

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<v Speaker 3>We are going to be absolutely watching the Miss USA pageant.

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<v Speaker 3>It is August twenty seventh, and we will be there

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<v Speaker 3>for it, and we are rooting her on.

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<v Speaker 4>And just really.

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<v Speaker 3>Saddened and disappointed that that was the choice that the

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<v Speaker 3>former Miss North Carolina took, and the choice that that

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<v Speaker 3>journalist took as well. I have to hold both of

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<v Speaker 3>them accountable for that interview.

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<v Speaker 4>That was just why disappointing isn't even the right world.

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<v Speaker 4>It was word. It was anger.

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<v Speaker 3>Look I don't I I was angered by it from

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<v Speaker 3>a professional standpoint and then from a personal standpoint.

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<v Speaker 4>I was angered.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, we were watching the interview and you're waiting every

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<v Speaker 2>minute of it for okay, when is she going to

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<v Speaker 2>get to the thing? When is she going to get

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<v Speaker 2>to seven? And the thing never really came.

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<v Speaker 3>Barely touched it, brushed beside it, and she said, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not here to talk about that today. Really, are what

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<v Speaker 3>the the other thing? She This was the big defiant

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<v Speaker 3>quote that she had that just made me want.

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<v Speaker 4>To shut the computer off. I won't be judged by

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<v Speaker 4>my past. Good for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, then fine.

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<v Speaker 3>But maybe you should acknowledge it, apologize for it, learn

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<v Speaker 3>from it, and teach others.

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<v Speaker 4>That is what we do. And we all have.

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<v Speaker 3>I have passed that and past moments, and yes, we

0:20:03.880 --> 0:20:06.840
<v Speaker 3>have all made mistakes, and we all have made poor choices.

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<v Speaker 3>But the only way you move on from them is

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<v Speaker 3>by first acknowledging them. And if you need to apologize

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<v Speaker 3>and do right by them, that's part of the process

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<v Speaker 3>as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Brittany, Brittany Bolton, I can't say it enough, Robu you

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<v Speaker 2>is it the thing you? I won't be judged by

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<v Speaker 2>my past. Here is the thing. This young lady said

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<v Speaker 2>the in word repeatedly and put it out in public.

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<v Speaker 2>And I am sitting here as a black man not

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<v Speaker 2>judging her for her past. That's the thing, Robes. I

0:20:40.080 --> 0:20:44.360
<v Speaker 2>am sitting here willing to listen to her about her present,

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<v Speaker 2>who she is, and what her future is going to be.

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<v Speaker 2>She is the one now making me judge her differently.

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<v Speaker 2>I was willing to not do all that stuff and listen.

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<v Speaker 2>But when you aren't even willing to say that using

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<v Speaker 2>the N word, and you're not in the black community

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<v Speaker 2>using it repeatedly and publicly, if you're not willing to

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<v Speaker 2>say there's something wrong with that, we don't have anything

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<v Speaker 2>else to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>I was willing.

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<v Speaker 2>I am sitting here as a black man who was

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<v Speaker 2>close to defending her, but at least pausing enough to

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<v Speaker 2>not condemn her.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually does this.

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<v Speaker 3>I would encourage anyone who didn't hear our episode on Thursday. Again,

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<v Speaker 3>way well before she spoke, we hadn't heard anything from her,

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<v Speaker 3>and you absolutely, I would say, did defend her to

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<v Speaker 3>a degree. And I do think that that's kind of

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<v Speaker 3>interesting because that was in real time and now to

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<v Speaker 3>hear what she has said and the different reaction that

0:21:47.400 --> 0:21:51.600
<v Speaker 3>elicits from everyone, it's just a lesson, like it's okay

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<v Speaker 3>to say you're sorry, it's okay to acknowledge that you

0:21:55.000 --> 0:21:58.520
<v Speaker 3>made a mistake, and actually it's more than okay. It's

0:21:58.680 --> 0:22:01.440
<v Speaker 3>necessary for healing. And if you refuse to do it,

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<v Speaker 3>you've missed the point.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, if she wants to come out and say, I

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<v Speaker 2>have every right to say this word, and I want

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<v Speaker 2>to say it's a part of my vocabulary, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>I would listen to that too, And then I would

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<v Speaker 2>listen to why she came to this conclusion, where she

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<v Speaker 2>grew up, what kind of kids she grew up with,

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<v Speaker 2>who she had been around. I was willing to listen again.

0:22:19.640 --> 0:22:22.720
<v Speaker 2>It's the Fat Joe example. My inwards don't dance. We

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<v Speaker 2>just pull up our pants and do the rock away

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<v Speaker 2>and lean back and lean back. You love that song.

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<v Speaker 2>It's coming from a Latino who is repeatedly.

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<v Speaker 1>Using the in word publicly.

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<v Speaker 2>So we have seen some precedent for this type of

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<v Speaker 2>thing robes and it happens on the street every day.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been around, Yes, I've been around Latinos, dudes much

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<v Speaker 2>tougher than any neighborhood I have ever been in throwing the

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<v Speaker 2>in word around. Yes, And they've gotten permission and authority

0:22:49.080 --> 0:22:51.080
<v Speaker 2>to do it from the black folks they hang around,

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<v Speaker 2>not saying it's right, but I'm I'm willing to listen

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<v Speaker 2>to her, and she's telling me, no, it's.

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<v Speaker 4>Because she's Christian, conservative and a MAGA supporter. Okay, that

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<v Speaker 4>that must be why she lost your crown. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I wanted to give this.

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<v Speaker 3>Very uh interesting development and update in this case, and

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<v Speaker 3>maybe this will be the last we hear from her.

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<v Speaker 1>Myla, is that right?

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<v Speaker 2>Mala Hadley, Mila Hadley, Mela Hadley.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's that's our girl now, Mala Hadley.

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<v Speaker 3>We are going to be rooting for her all the way.

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<v Speaker 3>So we hope you enjoyed listening to this episode. We

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<v Speaker 3>always appreciate you. I'm Ae Roeboch alongside TJ.

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<v Speaker 4>Holmes. We'll talk so