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Speaker 2: I am John Schmilk. This is Tony Pauline. We heat

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Speaker 2: from Sports KEDA. Of course we are recording this and

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Speaker 2: your final mock.

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Speaker 1: Draft is going up Wednesday night.

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Speaker 2: So what we're doing today, we're going to go back

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Speaker 2: and forth on all of these picks. My guess is

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Speaker 2: that we're gonna be able to come to a pretty

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Speaker 2: good consensus on a lot of them. On another one will

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Speaker 2: have debates on and this will serve as the final

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Speaker 2: draft season. Mack, but Tony is going to join us

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Speaker 2: on our live show on WFN on Wednesday night in

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Speaker 2: the eight o'clock hour between eight and nine pm, and

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Speaker 2: by then his final MAK will be over, so we'll

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Speaker 2: get Tony's latest intel on that show. If you want

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Speaker 2: to get to the up to the second Tony Pauline

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Speaker 2: knowledge and facts.

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Speaker 1: Going into the twenty twenty five NFL draft. Tony, how

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Speaker 1: are you man? Hope you're doing okay?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a little exhausting. I mean, it's I'll be happy

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Speaker 3: when it finally gets here. Trying to figure out what's

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Speaker 3: real and what is it. You hear it everything and

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Speaker 3: anything this past couple of days, or at least I have,

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Speaker 3: and then you've got to try and slim it down

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Speaker 3: and go with the best sources.

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Speaker 1: How do you sort through factor fiction based.

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Speaker 4: On past history?

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Speaker 3: You know, I had people will call me up and

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Speaker 3: outrageous and there's no chance of it's happening. And then

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Speaker 3: I look at people that I've spoken to and that

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Speaker 1: The past, and usually you're not getting I mean, I

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Speaker 1: don't want to.

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Speaker 2: I'm not trying to bust your sources up, but my

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Speaker 2: sense from talking to people that do this like you,

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Speaker 2: a lot of times you're not gonna have a team

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Speaker 2: they'll kind of pass that on to Is that kind

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes, I mean the teams may let information out very

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Speaker 3: It's it's very unusual, you know that their draft, they

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Speaker 1: Perfect, all right, So let's get to it here, Tony.

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Speaker 1: We'll go through the entire first round.

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Speaker 2: Then at the end they'll get you an idea for

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Speaker 2: the Giant fans that watch this what the Giants might

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Speaker 1: So we'll start at the Tennessee Titans. Mike Borgonzi.

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Speaker 3: Been I mean it's been that way for a while.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, it's a combine. I was reporting

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Speaker 3: it's a brand new regime. They need a quarterback. You're

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent agreat Cleveland Browns. I've been told from

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Speaker 3: Again makes sense. They're not going to take a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: I mean, what will be interesting is to see how

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Speaker 2: They said they see him as a wide out, right.

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Speaker 2: All right, pick number through to the New York Giants, Tony.

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Speaker 2: This seems to be one of the pivot points.

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Speaker 1: Of this draft. What have you been hearing about what

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Speaker 2: Is anyone telling you quarterback for the Giants at three,

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Speaker 2: Tony or is that kind of off the board at

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Speaker 2: this point completely.

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Speaker 3: Some people have said it to me, but the way

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Speaker 2: As at the thirty four do you sense the Giants

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Speaker 2: Do you think they're out on quarterback completely?

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Speaker 3: I think that they will look quarterback day two and less.

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Speaker 4: I do think that they'll look quarterback in the second round.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and we'll get more into that when we get

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Speaker 1: What are you hearing they do here at number four?

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Speaker 1: I would think Will.

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Speaker 3: Campbell, right, I mean, yes, absolutely, they would love Travis Hunter.

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Speaker 3: who the Hey coaches. Mike Rabel. I don't think that's

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Speaker 2: That would be interesting twist there. Ticking the defensive player,

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Speaker 2: all right, Jaguars at number five, Tony. We've talked about

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Speaker 2: I've heard it from way too many people to think

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Speaker 3: You know, you said that to me yesterday, and I

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Speaker 3: be trending that way. And you know that's what team

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Speaker 2: Wow, And that would be the Patriots, I would assuming

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Speaker 3: and we'll talk about that for a second. You know, please,

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Speaker 2: Now, you probably wouldn't be able to get the usual

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Speaker 4: You shouldn't.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's some talk that San Francisco wants to

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Speaker 3: So they want to make a big move up to

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Speaker 3: They made some surprising cuts. But you never know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I guess.

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Speaker 2: I guess I'll put this to a basic way. If

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Speaker 2: the Giants decide all right, we'll move out of three.

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Speaker 2: We actually had a phone call on Big We'll kick

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Speaker 2: off live about this on Tuesday. So I'll pose the

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Speaker 2: question that the caller posts us, and this was his theory.

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Speaker 2: Do you think the Giants, if they slide from three

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Speaker 1: I thought it was a little rich myself, to be honest.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I mean the move to move the move

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Speaker 2: Right, that's true, and this is a really good draft

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Speaker 2: pick number six, Tony uh, where do you?

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Speaker 1: What are you hearing about? What they might do at

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Speaker 2: They need a wide receiver, they could use offensive lineman,

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Speaker 2: I think the Raiders have a lot of work to

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Speaker 3: You know, the offensive lineman makes sense, especially with spy

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Speaker 3: Tech there. As I wrote last week at at sports

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Speaker 3: when he was with Tampa Bay with Tristan Wirfs. You

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Speaker 3: look at that offensive line it's primary, and Tampa Bay

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Speaker 3: it's primarily been first and second rounders. I think that

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Speaker 2: I've already tell them Banks is a player that the

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Speaker 2: And look, you can have a real dominant unit, right

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Speaker 2: if you have Mason Crosby healthy, you have Christian Wilkins healthy,

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Speaker 2: They have another good defensive end, a veteran that came back,

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Speaker 2: Malcolm Kutz, that's right from Buffalo. Yeah, so you have

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Speaker 2: And I think he's probably the next best player on

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Speaker 1: The window open for armand Membo to be the.

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Speaker 2: Twin tackle protectors with Olu fashion for whomever ends up

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm told that the love for Tyler Warren is

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Speaker 3: real for the Jets. But in past days they've been

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Speaker 3: doing a lot of work on Arma Membo, a lot

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Speaker 3: of work. They need a right tackle you mentioned for Shadow,

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Speaker 3: I mean you got to protect justin fields. That offensive

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Speaker 3: it's another younger piece with Titman, with Olivia Tucker and

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Speaker 3: who has got tremendous upside, is the pick here. There

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Speaker 3: are concerns about his maturity, not that he is he

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Speaker 3: acts like a child, but that he's just a younger

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Speaker 3: guy and he's gonna need some time to develop. That's understandable,

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Speaker 3: but his upside is incredible and you could be getting

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Speaker 3: just an absolute home run pick at right tackle with Membo.

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Speaker 3: I love his playing style. May take some adjustment, but

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Speaker 3: he's a good player now who I think has got

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, I think you can get a tight

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Speaker 2: Right, there's such a good tight end class, Tony, you

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Speaker 2: get a tight end on day two, you're not going

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Speaker 2: to get an offensive day two though. That's gonna be

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Speaker 2: I think that makes a lot of sense. Membo to

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Speaker 2: the Jets at seven. All right, let's recap here. First

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Speaker 2: Will Campbell to the Patriots, Ashton Genty to the Jaguars,

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Speaker 2: Mason Graham to the Raiders, armand Membo to the Jets

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Speaker 2: at number seven.

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Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers at number eight.

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Speaker 2: Tony, this is one of those wildcard picks to me,

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Speaker 2: because I think they have a lot of needs. They

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Speaker 2: could use another weapon for Bryce Young. I think they

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Speaker 2: desperately need defensive front help rushing the passer on defense,

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Speaker 2: and they could use a corner I for one, here

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Speaker 2: would focus on the defensive front. I just don't know

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Speaker 2: dicey from team to team. Which is the next edge

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Speaker 3: Well, my opinion's Jalen Walker, and I know that they

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Speaker 3: like Michael Williams and Michel Williams from Georgia. They like

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Speaker 3: much higher rating. Evidently he's done a great job with

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Speaker 3: his interviews. I think the versatility hilly of Walker to

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Speaker 3: have the great growth potential at six foot one. You know,

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Speaker 3: there were some concerns, you know, how much heavier is,

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Speaker 3: how much more weight can he get? How much more

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Speaker 3: bulk and strength can he add? But he's definitely the

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Speaker 3: much higher rated player, and if he's there, I think

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Speaker 3: they take him over Williams.

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Speaker 1: All right, I'm with you. Jalen Walker to the Panthers

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Speaker 2: I think Michael Williams is also an interesting name there

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Speaker 2: As I look at some of these other guys that

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Speaker 2: him as I am. I've heard Tony with him, and

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Speaker 2: we could talk about this when we pick him. My

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Speaker 1: I've heard whispered around.

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Speaker 3: I was told yesterday that there's a lot of medical

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Speaker 3: issues and if it weren't for the medical issues, he

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Speaker 3: some concerns about the Harmon's and I guess it's it's

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Speaker 1: Of time interesting, so not one major thing. I'm with you.

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Speaker 1: I think I don't know how the teams.

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Speaker 2: I'm not as high on him, but I guess Walter

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Speaker 2: a defensive tackle pick. All right, Saints at number nine, Tony,

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Speaker 2: I would think they would be considering quarterback here, which

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Speaker 2: should or still on the board, But everything that I'm

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Speaker 2: hearing is that they're not. So what do you hearing

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Speaker 2: the Saints might do where they're always in the search

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Speaker 2: for some pass rushers as well, and if you go

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Speaker 2: by what the type of players they've drafted before, this

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Speaker 2: tell me, yeah, I'd be shocked if they take a

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Speaker 3: Trade within in the division, but if New Orleans is

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Speaker 3: a place like New Orleans. We've never even heard of

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Speaker 3: the finn to the statement. As far as Derek Carr

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Speaker 3: pass rushers. They seem to always go on the on

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Speaker 3: the lines of scrimmage. Offensive line still a mess, even

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Speaker 3: though they've used so many picks on the offensive line,

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna throw a current ball here.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, Somenna be Tyler Warren, the tight end

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Speaker 3: out of Penn State. There's a lot of love for

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Speaker 3: him for picks seven with the Jets, nine with the Saints,

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Speaker 2: Any consideration of Kelvin Banks here Tony Ryan Ramchick just

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Speaker 2: he'd be the next tackle lot more likely than not.

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Speaker 3: Right, you know it is, but you know, you look

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Speaker 3: round last year with u Vega. They went first round

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Speaker 3: it's when they go with the they take an offensive

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Speaker 3: you're dealt with. You continually use early draft capital on

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Speaker 3: offensive linemen, and you don't hit on him, you eventually

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Speaker 3: create holes everywhere else, which is what's happening. You look

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Speaker 3: Juwan Johnson and resign him in free agency, but I

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: Now you go to the Chicago Bears, Tony, I think

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Speaker 2: this is another up if Genty's there, I think this

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Speaker 2: I think both of us at this point will be

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Speaker 2: shocked if he was still on the board when the

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Speaker 1: It's just a question of which guy it's going to be.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I've told I've been told that they're looking

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Speaker 3: for that offensive guard offensive tackle com you know, God,

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Speaker 3: that they may be able to start at guard and kick.

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Speaker 4: Out to tackle.

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Speaker 1: That sounds like Kelvin Banks, right.

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Speaker 3: I think the uh, the sneaky pick here, of the

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Speaker 3: But for the purposes of ar mock draft, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: I think that makes sense.

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Speaker 2: Also, you're hearing a lot of love around the lead

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Speaker 3: I'm told ten to twenty five and several people told

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Speaker 3: very impressed. Does it mean they're gonna take him at ten? Well,

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Speaker 3: I think he.

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Speaker 2: Should be Tony. I think he's a walk in. I

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Speaker 2: know he's got issues. I think he's going to be

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Speaker 2: We talked about the forty nine ers, Tony. They could

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Speaker 2: they could use a defensive tackle.

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Speaker 1: It's a trench draft. Where do you think they go here?

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Speaker 3: You know there's been talk about Walter Nolan going to

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Speaker 3: there and available to him, I think it's a tough

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Speaker 3: player to pass up on. You look at his size,

441
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Speaker 3: you look at his ability, you look at his upside potential.

442
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Speaker 3: I mean, Williams is just starting to hit the hit

443
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Speaker 3: his stride as a football player, and he's got tremendous upset,

444
00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,720
Speaker 3: as does Walter Nolan. But Nolan's got a few more

445
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Speaker 3: question marks.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we'll go Michael Williams into the Niners.

447
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Speaker 2: I think that's a home run take, and I think

448
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Speaker 2: those would would be the two guys they would be

449
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Speaker 2: selecting between. All Right, Dallas Cowboys number twelve here, Tony.

450
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Speaker 2: Talking to people down in Dallas that I keep in

451
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Speaker 2: touch with, This feels like a wide receiver pick. It's

452
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Speaker 2: almost like a wide receiver or bust. The question is

453
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Speaker 2: it Matthew Golden or is it Teteroan McMillan.

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Speaker 3: You know, go back to the Senior Bowl when I

455
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Speaker 3: reported that the Cowboys were going to look receiver with

456
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Speaker 3: their first pick because they desperately need a receiver that's

457
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Speaker 3: come to fruition. I personally he liked Ted McMillan, but

458
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Speaker 3: I think it's going to be Matthew Golden because they

459
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Speaker 3: want a speed guy. Golden showed at the Combine with

460
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Speaker 3: the four two nine. He is a speed guy that

461
00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,760
Speaker 3: can stretch the field, ran great routes at his pro day.

462
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Speaker 3: He's got it. He's got a terrific game with a

463
00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,359
Speaker 3: large amount of upside. So I think he compliments with

464
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Speaker 3: the Cowboys that already have on the on the roster receiver.

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Speaker 3: I like Ted McMillan, but I think it's gonna be Golden.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm with you.

467
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Speaker 2: I would pick Ted McGill in there too if I

468
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Speaker 2: was Dallas, But you know, I think Golden he reminds

469
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Speaker 2: me of like I could can't just seem having like

470
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Speaker 2: a Jordan Addison type of impact. You put him across

471
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Speaker 2: from a really good wide receiver like Justin Jefferson. And

472
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Speaker 2: he's that same type of player.

473
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Speaker 3: A little bit faster than Jordan Addison, which is what

474
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Speaker 3: the Cowboys want more of a vertical threat.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, both both good, really good route runners. Though.

476
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Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the Dolphins at thirteen. Here,

477
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Speaker 2: Tony Jalen Ramsey's on the trade block. There's a good

478
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Speaker 2: chance by the time this even aris he could get traded.

479
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Speaker 2: Maybe it's draft Knight for a mid to round pick.

480
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Speaker 2: Who knows.

481
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Speaker 1: Do they have to pick a corner here?

482
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Speaker 3: Yes, But I think with the news about Will Johnson

483
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Speaker 3: and from what I'm hearing with the injuries, I would

484
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Speaker 3: be surprised if it was Will Johnson.

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Speaker 1: I had, well, what are you hearing about that?

486
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Speaker 3: Well, I'm hearing there's a bunch I hear there's there's

487
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Speaker 3: knee there's knee issues. There's a bunch of different issues,

488
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Speaker 3: which is gonna push him down into the second half

489
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Speaker 3: of Round one. Because of that, I thought all along

490
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Speaker 3: this pick had to be Will Johnson. Based on what

491
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Speaker 3: I'm hearing, I think it's gonna be a defensive tackle.

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Speaker 4: It will be.

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Speaker 3: Would it be Walter Nolan? Would it be Derek Harmon,

494
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with Walter Nolan. Harmon's got the injuries,

495
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Speaker 3: Nolan has got tremendous upside when he's on his game.

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Speaker 3: He's shown himself to be a playmaker that can rush

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Speaker 3: the passer, uh rush the quarterback, make plays behind the

498
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Speaker 3: line of scrimmage, and disrupt the action, as does Harmon.

499
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Speaker 3: But I like I like Nolan's upside and his growth

500
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Speaker 3: potential little better.

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Speaker 1: Any thought that Johnny barn there or Jday Baron part

502
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Speaker 1: of me?

503
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Speaker 3: In my opinion, it would be a knee pick because

504
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Speaker 3: while I like Barren, there are a lot of players,

505
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Speaker 3: especially at defensive tackle, that are higher rated, not only

506
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Speaker 3: am my board, but from people I've talked to around

507
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Speaker 3: the league.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's go to pick number fourteen in the Indideapolis

509
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Speaker 2: coach Tony Ty Warren's off the board has been a

510
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Speaker 2: popular pick to the culture. At fourteen, Coaston Loveland are

511
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Speaker 2: still there. They could also use a corner, they could

512
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Speaker 2: use a guard, They can use an edge player. What

513
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Speaker 2: are you think of for the Colts here in terms

514
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 2: of best guys on the board, Calvin Banks is gone.

515
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Speaker 2: I mean, I think this is a little early for

516
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Speaker 2: Tyler Booker, but I think, you know, as a mauling

517
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Speaker 2: downhill run game, I think he actually fits in that

518
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 2: scheme pretty well. With a little early For me, I

519
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:42,680
Speaker 2: would think about Colston lovel In this spot.

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Speaker 1: What do you think they're thinking?

521
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Speaker 3: You know, I thought all along this could also be

522
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Speaker 3: a safety, because they do need a safety. We want

523
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Speaker 3: an offensive lineman. The offensive lineman are off the board

524
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Speaker 3: literally just today, I'm told that the love for the

525
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,720
Speaker 3: tight end position is real with the Indianapolis Coults. So

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with Colston Lovelin. They wanted to try

527
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Speaker 3: up for Brock Bowers a year ago, and when you

528
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Speaker 3: look at the tight ends that are going in the

529
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Speaker 3: first round this year, only two of them. Colston Loveland

530
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Speaker 3: is more brock Bowers than Tyler Warren with his ability

531
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Speaker 3: to get down the field. You just have to be

532
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Speaker 3: comfortable with that injury. So we're gonna go Colston Loveland here.

533
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Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, man, whoever wins that Colt's court

534
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Speaker 2: starting quarterback job Tony. They have Jonathan Taylor, they have Pittman,

535
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Speaker 2: Josh Downs, Alec Pierce, Adaai Mitchell.

536
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Speaker 1: Then you throw on Colston lovel and that is one

537
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Speaker 1: hell of a young weapon offensive group that's gonna touch

538
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Speaker 1: the ball man. That is a really good group.

539
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Speaker 3: You just have to protect him, and you just have

540
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Speaker 3: to hope that the Chris Ballad quarterback jinks, you know, ends,

541
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Speaker 3: because Baller has done a real good job at most

542
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Speaker 3: of the positions. He just can't get the quarterback position straight.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a struggle, all right.

544
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Speaker 2: Let's go to the Falcons at fifteen, who are still

545
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Speaker 2: looking for pass rushers the keV needs elsewhere.

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Speaker 1: I gotta imagine it's got to be a guy up

547
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Speaker 1: front on defense here, Tony.

548
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean the Falcons could potentially trade down from this

550
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Speaker 3: spot from what I'm hearing, because they only have a

551
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Speaker 3: limited number of selections.

552
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Speaker 4: Trade down.

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Speaker 3: This is the area where for a lot of teams

554
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Speaker 3: there are no longer any more true first rounders. I'm told,

555
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 3: like the Buffalo Bills only have twelve players with first

556
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Speaker 3: round grades on their board. So this is the area

557
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Speaker 3: where you might start to see some trades. This is

558
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Speaker 3: also the area we're gonna we're gonna start to see

559
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Speaker 3: that second tier of pass rushers come off the board.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna stay with what I've heard and I'm gonna

561
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Speaker 3: stay with being stubborn, and I'm gonna go with James

562
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Speaker 3: Pierce of Tennessee, who, from what I heard after post

563
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 3: draft meetings, has moved ahead of Michael Green on a

564
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Speaker 3: number of boards.

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Speaker 2: Really, that's interesting, all right, you gonna stick to your

566
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 2: guns with James Pierce at fifteen to the Falcons. I

567
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Speaker 2: would pick Mike Green there. Again, I don't know the

568
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,120
Speaker 2: off field stuff with him. That's something that we obviously don't.

569
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 2: You know, we've heard what the reports are, but we're not,

570
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Speaker 2: you know, detailed into those cases. But Pierce the fifteenth

571
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Speaker 2: to the Falcons, and he thought to Shimur Stewart there,

572
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Speaker 2: Tony or no.

573
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Speaker 4: It's still too early.

574
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Speaker 3: I mean, we've talked about Shimoar Stewart all along one

575
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 3: and a half sacks last year, four and a half

576
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 3: sacks throughout his college career, but an amazing athlete. I've

577
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 3: mentioned a couple of times people have compared with to

578
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 3: Vernon Golfston, the former New York Jets first round bust.

579
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Speaker 3: There are some teams that project him as a top

580
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Speaker 3: fifteen pick. I think when all said and done, he's

581
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Speaker 3: probably gonna go later in a round one all.

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Speaker 2: Right, Arizona Carlos at sixteen Here, Tony, this could be

583
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Speaker 2: another back to back edge situation.

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Speaker 3: Could be or it could be a defensive tackle. I mean,

585
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Speaker 3: do they taking Michael Green here? I think here, You're

586
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Speaker 3: probably probably gonna see where Derek Harmon ends up. That's

587
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 3: where he goes. A playmaker, a guy who can play

588
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,120
Speaker 3: on the three man line. He's got the size, he's

589
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 3: got the athleticism. Could be an edgy rusher, but from

590
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 3: what I'm here, it's also could also be an interior

591
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 3: defensive lineman like it was last year.

592
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I should have just said pass rusher.

593
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 2: Positions really doesn't matter, right, They just need guys up

594
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 2: front that can get after the quarterbacks, something they sorely

595
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 2: missed last year. All Right, Cincinnati Bengals at seventeen, Tony.

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Speaker 2: All Right, Bengals are at the halfway point, Tony pick

602
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:33,919
Speaker 2: number seventeen.

603
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 1: Look, I mean, they just need defense, Tony.

604
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 2: They lost scoring thirty points like almost like three or

605
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 2: four times last year.

606
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: They can score. I know they could use.

607
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 2: Another offensive lineman, but you got to just pick the

608
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 2: best defensive player here, don't you.

609
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 4: You would think so.

610
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 3: I mean, but they would they go with a Kenneth Grant,

611
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 3: would they take a Michael Green? I mean, they've told

612
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 3: Trey Henderson to, you know, search out a trade, and

613
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,640
Speaker 3: at the very worst, you probably not going to have

614
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,199
Speaker 3: Trey Henderson after the twenty twenty five season.

615
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna go with Michael Green here.

616
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 2: And the Bengals, by the way, I have been known

617
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 2: to take chances on guys with some off the field things.

618
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 1: You go back to Burton last year just as an example.

619
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Speaker 1: So something to keep an eye on moving forward.

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Speaker 2: I like that picked all right Seattle Seahawks at eighteen, Tony,

621
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 2: they could use some help on the offensive line. They

622
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 2: trade away DK Metcalf receiver, maybe a tight end.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm told that they really like gray'sabel of North

624
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 3: Dakota State College tackle who projects on the inside. Some

625
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 3: people think guard, some people think he will eventually develop

626
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Speaker 3: into a center. Whether they take him at eighteen or

627
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 3: whether they move try and move down a little bit

628
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 3: further and take them. I think that, from what I've heard,

629
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Speaker 3: that's going to be their guy. I have Josh Connolly

630
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 3: rated slightly higher than Gray's Abel, but from what I've heard,

631
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Speaker 3: Seattle likes grays Abel.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so do I am with you on that? All right?

633
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 2: The Bucks and number nineteen Tony, they can use some

634
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 2: pass rush too.

635
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 4: They can use some.

636
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 3: Pass rush, but they can also use the safety. So

637
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 3: the question is is it nick Emmawari or is it

638
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 3: Malachai Starks. I'm gonna go with Starks, even though I

639
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 3: have mna Wari rated much higher, because I think he's

640
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 3: much more Todd Bowles player. Fits the system. You can

641
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 3: line him up over the slot receiver, you can. He's

642
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 3: more of a true center fielder. Edge rusher is a possibility.

643
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,479
Speaker 3: But again, you know, we talked about the Saints and

644
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 3: how they've expended so much draft capital on offensive lineman.

645
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 3: It's been kind of the same thing with the Bucks

646
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 3: and they really haven't been able to hit. They did

647
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 3: sign the Hassan Reddick in the off season, and I

648
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 3: think Hassan Reddick's got a chip on his shoulder. He's

649
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 3: got something to prove. So I think with this pick,

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00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go Malachai Starks, all.

651
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: Right, and then we have the Broncos at twenty.

652
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 2: Here, Tony, this is this smells like running back all

653
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 2: day to me with Omar and Hampton.

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00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: What are you hearing?

655
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it could be o'mari and Hampton, but

656
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with Ted McMillan. Now, people say, well,

657
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 3: they need a guy to stretch the field, and it

658
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 3: would rather have Matthew gold But Matthew Golden's off the board.

659
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 3: It's gonna be an offensive skill player. It could be

660
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 3: on Marion Hampton. But I also think getting another target

661
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 3: for bone Knicks, especially in a draft. As you know

662
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 3: we talked about just a little while ago Is is

663
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 3: so rich at running back. You can pass on Hampton

664
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 3: and get another running back second, third, fourth round that

665
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 3: can be a good player for you. I think getting

666
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 3: a real good target, another target in there, another set

667
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 3: of hands for Boone Knicks is important. And really, McMillan sports,

668
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 3: I'm concerned is major value.

669
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 4: At this point.

670
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 2: Any thought here to McMillan and Sunton, I agree, is

671
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,479
Speaker 2: great value. Being a bit duplicative with both guys being

672
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 2: on a big body outside receivers.

673
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 3: Absolutely is that's why they want more of a speed guy.

674
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 3: That's why they would they relish of Matthew Golden falling down,

675
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 3: and you're absolutely right. But remember, you know, Sutton's got

676
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 3: what I believe is one year left on his contract.

677
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 3: I reported on that. You know there is not turmoil.

678
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 3: They would like to extend them. You know, you don't

679
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 3: know what's gonna happen with Cam's after the season.

680
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to pick number twenty one to

681
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers. Tone everyone just assumes they're picking a

682
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 2: quarterback here.

683
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 1: I don't know. Steelers run the organization a particular way.

684
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 2: If they don't believe the quarterback is good enough, I

685
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 2: don't think they're gonna force to pick. But Shdor Sanders

686
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 2: is still there. They can also go for a defensive tackle.

687
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 2: Cam Heward's getting a little bit older. They lost Najie Harris.

688
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 2: They gonna pick a running back here. What are your

689
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 2: thoughts on the Steelers could.

690
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 3: Be a Marion Hampton, could be Kenneth Grant, but I

691
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 3: think it's gonna be Shador Sanders. As a reporter at

692
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 3: Sports Skeeter. Literally the past week. I've been told that

693
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 3: Mike Commlin is in favor of Shadoor Sanders. I've been

694
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 3: told that, you know, Deon Sanders would go easier on

695
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin when Shadoor Sanders hits bumps in the road

696
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 3: compared to other coaches. I've also been told that they

697
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 3: are very happy, at least Mike Tomlin is very happy

698
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,239
Speaker 3: or at least okay moving into the season with the

699
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 3: Mason Rudolph. So you start Mason Rudolph, you have Shador

700
00:30:56,360 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 3: Sanders shit behind him. No no reason to start Shdoor

701
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 3: Sanders from week one week one, which would be a

702
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 3: mistake in my opinion. I think this is where Shadoor

703
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 3: Sanders finally comes off the board.

704
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: All right, that's twenty one two quarterbacks out the board down,

705
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: cam Warden, shud Or Sanders any thought to a team

706
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: trying and well, let me ask you this an he

707
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: thought to the Steelers moving back here, Tony, they don't

708
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: have a second round pick to try to pick a

709
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: back to your draft capitol. Let me start there.

710
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 3: I mean, if the right offer is there, I'm sure

711
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 3: they would move back. I'm sure they would also be

712
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 3: happy with Jackson Dart later on. But again from what

713
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 3: I'm told, Tomlin would like Shadoor Sanders. You know, I

714
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 3: guess it's a roll of the dice. How far back

715
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 3: you can move and still get Door Sanders. Assuming that

716
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 3: none of those teams at the top of round two

717
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 3: make a move up to get the quarterback.

718
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: Well, that was my second question.

719
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 2: How likely do you think that would be that a

720
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 2: team like the Browns, the Saints, the Giants could try

721
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 2: to move ahead of the Steelers at twenty or nineteen

722
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 2: to pick a quarterback.

723
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 3: The Raiders as well. I mean, you know, the Raiders

724
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 3: need a quarterback for the future. I guess it would

725
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 3: all depend on the asking price. Again, you know, it's

726
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 3: kind of interesting. I don't think the asking price would

727
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 3: be that high. Go back to what I said before.

728
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 3: There are teams that only have twelve, thirteen, fourteen players

729
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 3: with first round grades. So at this point in the draft,

730
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 3: when you're in the twenties, you're basically drafting players with

731
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 3: second round grades at the end of round one. So

732
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 3: the asking price may not be all that high for

733
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 3: a team you know that wants to move down. You

734
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 3: talked about Pittsburgh. We'll talk about the team selecting after

735
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh to get a for to move down so a

736
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 3: team can move back up and get you doors Sanders.

737
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 2: All right, then we have the Los Angeles Chargers at

738
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 2: twenty two Tony. They could use help on the defensive

739
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 2: line for sure. They could use a weapon on offense

740
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 2: to help Justin Herbert and Lad McConkie.

741
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: Where do you think they go?

742
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 3: You know I had heard that they could they consider

743
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 3: Marion Hampton at this point because they only signed Najay

744
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 3: Harris to a one year deal. I know they'd love

745
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 3: to have Colston Lovelin because you know, they need a

746
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 3: tight end edge rusher would be a consideration here. They

747
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 3: do need a receiver, so I think right here this

748
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 3: is an excellent range for a Mecca Abuka. Do you

749
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 3: know that the Packers like him? I think the Packers

750
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 3: would take him there at twenty three. But I think

751
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 3: right now, the way it stands, do they take on

752
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 3: Marion Hampton for the future with Naja Harris on a

753
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 3: one year deal? I think they take Coulston Lovelan, but

754
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 3: he's off the board. They need receivers. I think Abuka

755
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 3: is the pick here.

756
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to Packers at twenty three, Tony

757
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 2: you mentioned, I can see them picking a receiver. We

758
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 2: don't know if Marshaun Lattimore is going to be there

759
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 2: that much longer.

760
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: I'm not Marshall.

761
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 2: Latimore, Joyar Alexander will be there much longer part than me.

762
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: Kenny Clark's getting a little bit older.

763
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 2: I can see them picking a big nose tackle, defensive

764
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 2: tackle type, or an edge To be totally honest with you,

765
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 2: Rashaun Gary did not have the best year last year

766
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 2: coming off injury. So where are you going with the

767
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 2: Packers here, aside from just picking the best player available.

768
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they would like a Mecha Buka. I

769
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 3: think the Packers, I'm told the Packers are going to

770
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 3: try and move down. So this is another point in

771
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 3: the draft where a team you know, could potentially move

772
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 3: down at this point in time. Right here, I'm gonna

773
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 3: go with John A. Barron, the cornerback. I think they

774
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 3: would like the receiver. I think they prefer to move

775
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 3: down with all his fails, I think they go with

776
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 3: the cornerback. Kenneth Grant. Is he a good fit for

777
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 3: that system? I don't know. I mean, there's no other

778
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 3: edge rushers. Would they take as a roku at this

779
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 3: point time. I know most teams I spoke with have

780
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 3: second round grades on as a ROKU, so I think

781
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 3: this is a little bit rich. I guess Shamar Stewart

782
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,399
Speaker 3: would have to be a consideration here, but I think

783
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 3: John de Baron fits a need an He's safer than

784
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 3: most of those players I mentioned.

785
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the next selection. That is

786
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 2: a Minnesota Vikings twenty four and this could be a

787
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 2: prime trade down target here right Tony only are four

788
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 2: picks in the draft. They have a lot of needs edge,

789
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 2: corner safety on defense. I think this could be a

790
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 2: prime trade down. Can or the Vikings can find a

791
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 2: dance partner.

792
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 4: Absolutely.

793
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 3: I mean the question is is a team trading up

794
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 3: with Green Bay at twenty three or are they gonna

795
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 3: trade up with Minnesota or is there an opportunity for

796
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 3: both of those teams to trade down? Completely agree with you.

797
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 3: I wrote about it last week. Atlanta considering trading down,

798
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 3: Minnesota looking at trade down. If they don't trade down,

799
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 3: they're gonna need a cornerback. Maxwell Harston is flying up

800
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 3: draft boards. Just about everyone I spoke to has a

801
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 3: first round grade on them. So if they stay put,

802
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:42,879
Speaker 3: I think it's Maxwell Harston and.

803
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 2: You thought the m and wari here as a safety

804
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 2: where they also have a need.

805
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 3: It's gotta be a consideration. But I think cornerback is

806
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 3: a little bit more pressing. And you know, like the

807
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 3: New Orleans Saints with offensive linemen, the Vikings are even

808
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 3: the Packers point to a certain extent at receiver, the

809
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 3: Vikings always seem to be looking for a cornerback.

810
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the Houston Texas at twenty five, Tony.

811
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 2: They could use an offensive lineman, but they could also

812
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 2: use a receiver. Josh Connellys throw on the board. I'm

813
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 2: not sure how you pass on him here.

814
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my pick. I mean, that's been been he's

815
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 3: been mocked. I've had a mock to uh the Texans

816
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 3: the past, the three or four bocks that I've done.

817
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 3: If he's there, I'd be shocked if they pass on him.

818
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 3: If a book is there, that's also a possibility. But

819
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 3: I think Connory, especially with some of the offseason moves,

820
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 3: makes the most sense.

821
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to Los Angeles Rams at twenty six. Here, Tony,

822
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 2: I think some people and I don't think that a

823
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 2: it's a it's.

824
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: A bad idea.

825
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 2: I think they can go a quarterback, but I think

826
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 2: they're trying to win with their window with Matthew Stafford.

827
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 2: I think they love one of the big tight ends here.

828
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 2: I think Mason Taylor could be a sneaky pick here

829
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 2: at twenty six, the way people talking about him moving

830
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 2: up the boards. They could also use a corner They

831
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 2: don't like to pick corners. They could also use a linebacker.

832
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 2: They don't like the pig linebackers. Where do you think

833
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 2: they're here go with twenty six?

834
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 4: You know, I.

835
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 3: Thought potentially Jahadd Campbell at this pick. But I'm hearing

836
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,879
Speaker 3: a lot of bad medical news on Jahad Taylor, specifically

837
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 3: with his shoulders, which may interfere with his season in

838
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:18,280
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five as a rookie. So you know, looking

839
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 3: at the Rams tight end, linebacker, cornerback, tough call right here,

840
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 3: very tough call right here.

841
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go, you know, hold on, So why don't

842
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,720
Speaker 2: we talk about it? Any tight end move the needle

843
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 2: for you in this spot?

844
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 3: No, I can't see Arroya or Mason Taylor being selected

845
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 3: round one. I mean it is the Rams and you

846
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 3: never know. And the funny thing with the Rams is

847
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 3: for years they discarded the draft. Now they're back in

848
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,280
Speaker 3: the draft game and they've done a terrific, terrific job

849
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 3: of it. But still at this point in time, the

850
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 3: third tight end off of the board.

851
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 4: Is a reach.

852
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 2: Okay, how about offensive line? Do you think this could

853
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 2: be a Donovan Jackson landing spot here?

854
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 3: Donovan Jackson or maybe Tyler Booker. I mean, Booker is

855
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 3: a guy who's big and strong. I have Bookers rated

856
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 3: slightly higher than Donovan Jackson. I do think that there's

857
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 3: a possibility. When I look at the my RAMS needs

858
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 3: on my RAMS board, after corner, tight end, linebacker, it

859
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 3: is offensive line. So I do think that Tyler Booker's

860
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 3: gotta be a consideration here, all right.

861
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 1: If he's consider then who's the big Well.

862
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 3: The other consideration would be, you know, would they take

863
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 3: Shannon Ravel Chevron Ravel here? Because of the upside? The

864
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 3: pick for me would be Tyler Booker at the spot.

865
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: Now, I think that's a good pick. I think it

866
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: makes sense.

867
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 2: Not a very sexy pick for the Rams, but I

868
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 2: think I think that certainly makes a lot of sense

869
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 2: with with with what they're doing there. All right, Baltimore

870
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 2: Ravens at twenty seven, Tony, this is one of the

871
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 2: old All right, let's see which really good player didn't

872
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,720
Speaker 2: get picked yet. That's on the board for the Ravens

873
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 2: to select. And my highest rated player left. When I

874
00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 2: take a look at my board, did Derek Harmon get yet?

875
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 4: Yeah? He did? He did had to go much earlier.

876
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 2: I mean, Josh Simmons would probably be the next highest guy.

877
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 2: I could also see them taking to Jahad Campbell on defense.

878
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,439
Speaker 2: What do you think the Ravens are thinking here?

879
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you got Emmina Warri who's available. They

880
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,280
Speaker 3: could they could use another safety, pair him with Kyle Hamilton.

881
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 3: They can use an edge wresher for and I'm told

882
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 3: that they like the kid from UCLA, the linebacker from

883
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 3: U say, Carson Sweessinger, and maybe get their linebacker in

884
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:37,240
Speaker 3: round two. You know, Shamar Stewart just screams Baltimore Ravens

885
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 3: for me. I mean the athleticism, They're able to develop

886
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 3: those guys the size. So I'm gonna go with Shamar

887
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 3: Stewart here.

888
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 2: Awesome sounds good. All right, let's go to Detroit Lions

889
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 2: at twenty eight.

890
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: I agree. I think Edges my number one need for them.

891
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 2: I think they need one and he kind of you know,

892
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 2: they drafted Jason Alway a few years ago, same deal.

893
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 2: I had no sacks but had a lot of physical ability,

894
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,439
Speaker 2: So I think it would be sticking with how they pick.

895
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: I'm with you, all right. Detroit Lions a twenty eight Tony.

896
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 2: I can see them as a sneaky trade down candidate too,

897
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 2: to pick up some more picks a little bit later

898
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 2: in the draft. I got Edge and then Nickel, maybe,

899
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 2: depending if they don't want to use Brian Banches more

900
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 2: of a traditional safety. What do you think the Lions

901
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 2: do here at twenty eight. I can see them going

902
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 2: guard too, having lost Kevin Zeitler. Or maybe this could

903
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 2: be a Donovan Jackson landing place exactly.

904
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 4: Where it is.

905
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 3: I don't have Jackson as a first round prospect, but

906
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 3: there aren't too many first round prospects, you know, still

907
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 3: on the board. But again, Donovan Jackson played tackle the

908
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 3: last half of the season at Ohouse State. Did a

909
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 3: good job, but he's not gonna be a tackle on Sunday.

910
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 3: I think Donovan Jackson did a great job or made

911
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 3: a great decision after twenty twenty three, which was a

912
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 3: subpart year for him coming back for another season, and

913
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 3: he's really elevated his draft stock. So I think here

914
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 3: he makes a lot of sense for the Alliance.

915
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm with you, command there's a twenty nine. I

916
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 2: can see this as another team Tony that could use

917
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 2: a trade down. They traded some of their draft cappitoal

918
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 2: in the offseason. They acquired Deebo Samuel a couple other

919
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 2: players as well, so I could see this is a

920
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 2: potential trade down. And I think the Commanders still have

921
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 2: a lot of needs, to be honest with you. They

922
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 2: could use help at edge, they could use help with safety,

923
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 2: they could use help it inside linebacker, or they're getting older.

924
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 2: Zach Ertz is long in the two, they could use

925
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 2: a tight end. I think a running back. Austin Ecklers

926
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 2: are number two. How much longer is he going to

927
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 2: be around? And then I believe their primary Brian robinsons

928
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 2: heading towards the end of his rookie deal as well,

929
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 2: So I think this is interesting he picked with the Commanders.

930
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 2: I can see a trade down, but I think they

931
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 2: probably got to pick a defensive player.

932
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 3: No, well, I mean, who would the defensive player be

933
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 3: all the top ed edge rushers are off the board,

934
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 3: as I.

935
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: As, Iraku would be the guy that I would bring,

936
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: and I know.

937
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 3: You likes who I guess he would be in consideration here,

938
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 3: But again I'm gonna go back. Not too many teams

939
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 3: I've spoken with have a first round grade on him.

940
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 3: You know a lot of players. You mentioned cornerback Shavan Ravel.

941
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 3: I mean that's a consideration when you think he's going

942
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 3: to be back on the field. I'm gonna go with

943
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 3: all Marion Hampton because I think you know, you just improve.

944
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 3: You want Jayden Daniels to improve. You get them a

945
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 3: stronger running game as well as a running back that

946
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 3: can catch the ball out of the backfield.

947
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 1: And that's Hampton, Okay, I like it all right.

948
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 4: Thinks I stunned you there, No, not at all.

949
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,280
Speaker 2: I mentioned running back as a possibility next to Brian Robinson's,

950
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 2: so I have no problem with that. I just think

951
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 2: that I think their defense was what kind of finished

952
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 2: them last year.

953
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: In the end.

954
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 2: They couldn't get a stop when they needed it. So

955
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 2: they have a nice set of weapons around Jaden Daniels.

956
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:37,720
Speaker 2: All if they you're at the Mario Hampton, that's for sure.

957
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 2: All right, Let's go to pick number thirty to the

958
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills, Tony. I can see them being a sneaky

959
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 2: trade down spot too, and I think they need to

960
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 2: keep looking at the defensive side.

961
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: Of the ball as well.

962
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, again, they traded down last year if you remember

963
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 3: at the very end, Carson Swessinger is a consideration here.

964
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 3: Johad Campbell, although those injuries are concerned for me, they

965
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 3: have a very leaky interior defensive line. So I'm gonna

966
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:08,720
Speaker 3: go Kenneth Grant. Kenneth Grant here to fix the problems

967
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:09,760
Speaker 3: on the defensive line.

968
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're very small up the middle, Tony, so I

969
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 2: could easily see Kenneth Grant being the big plug or

970
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 2: a defensive tackle. You put him next to Ed Oliver

971
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 2: or you got a nice little defensive front there. I

972
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:19,760
Speaker 2: think that makes sense.

973
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:20,760
Speaker 1: All right? Kansas?

974
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 2: Did he Chiefs to pick number thirty one? Offensive tackle

975
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 2: is a continuing need. I think they could use an

976
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 2: edge rusher. They could use a corner later on in

977
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,479
Speaker 2: the draft, maybe a Travis Kelsey replacement down the road.

978
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 2: What do you see for the Chiefs here at thirty one?

979
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 3: I think they're gonna roll the dice with Josh Simmons.

980
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 3: I mean, he's got a great amount of upside. I

981
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,919
Speaker 3: reported on sports skied to there's a concern with Josh

982
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 3: Simmons because he had a potella injury. He may not

983
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 3: be able to play until the second half of the

984
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five season. They did sign Jalen Moore in

985
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 3: free agency, so you know he'll compete there. But as

986
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 3: we saw, you know, the Super Bowl last year, their

987
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,720
Speaker 3: offensive line is a mess. They traded Joe to Thny.

988
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 3: You gotta add more pieces there. You got to add

989
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:11,879
Speaker 3: more talent. You gotta protect Patrick Mahomes and I don't

990
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 3: know if he's going to do that the first six

991
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 3: or seven weeks of the season. But Josh Simmons, with

992
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,959
Speaker 3: his upside as a pure left tackle, is their type

993
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 3: of pick. And a year, you know, halfway through the

994
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five season or even twenty twenty six, you

995
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,240
Speaker 3: can be a starter at left tackle.

996
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you. I think that's a good pick

997
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: for the Chiefs. They need to tackle desperately, and he

998
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: has the ability to be a really, really good one.

999
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 4: All right.

1000
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 2: Philadelphia Eagles final pick at thirty two Tony. They do

1001
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 2: you let Chauncey Gardner Johnson go this year? Could this

1002
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,919
Speaker 2: be a Nick Emnwarie spot? I for one think they're

1003
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 2: going to try to beef up their defensive front with

1004
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 2: a pass rusher, which is surprisingly without if you're not

1005
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 2: focusing on it. They've lost Flesher Cox in that spot.

1006
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 2: They lost to Son Reddick in that spot. They've lost

1007
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 2: Josh Sweat in that spot. They lost Milton Williams in

1008
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 2: that spot. I could see them trying to bolster their

1009
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 2: defensive front here.

1010
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 3: Which is why I have him taken Nick Scalurton, and

1011
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 3: I'm told that teams like Scourton more than people on

1012
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 3: the outside. I'm getting very early second round grats on Scoton.

1013
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 3: This is the last pick of the first round, so

1014
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 3: in essence, you can say it's an early second round pick.

1015
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 3: I know there's been some concern about Scourton's weight fluctuations,

1016
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 3: but as I report on sports Skida, Texas, A and

1017
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 3: M had him playing too heavy at two hundred and

1018
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,959
Speaker 3: eighty five pounds. His playing weight is more to sixty five.

1019
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 3: So he fits that scheme that the Eagles like in

1020
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 3: the up the field pass rush.

1021
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 2: All right, now, let's get to the Giants at pick

1022
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 2: number thirty four, Tony, and they'll be impacted what the

1023
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 2: Browns do with thirty three. And we also know that

1024
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 2: at the top of the second round, with teams having

1025
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 2: a night to sleep on their boards, a lot of

1026
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 2: teams get very excited about a certain player or two

1027
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 2: that might be left and they try to trade up

1028
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 2: into the front of that second round to get the

1029
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 2: player that they really want that still maybe sitting out,

1030
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 2: as you know, some teams might still have a first

1031
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 2: round grade left on their board at this point. How

1032
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 2: do you think this plays out for the Giants at

1033
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 2: thirty three and then their selection at thirty four in

1034
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 2: terms of either picking a quarterback, moving around in the draft,

1035
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 2: or maybe doing something else altogether.

1036
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 3: I think they'd like a quarterback. I don't know if

1037
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:21,280
Speaker 3: Chavon Ravel is going to be available to them possibility,

1038
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 3: you know, like you said, do the Browns take Jackson Dart?

1039
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 3: You know, for some reason, I know that they've liked

1040
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 3: Tyler Shuck through most of this process. There is some

1041
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 3: people out there who believe Tyler Shuck could eventually be

1042
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 3: could ultimately I should say, be the second quarterback selected

1043
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 3: ahead of Shador Sanders. I think the appeal for Shuck

1044
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 3: is a lot of teams feel that after cam Ward,

1045
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 3: he is the most NFL ready quarterback. He's a guy

1046
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 3: that's gonna be on the field sooner being able to play.

1047
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with the information I have and I'm

1048
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 3: gonna say it's gonna be Tyler Shuck. If it were me,

1049
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 3: I probably probably would lean more towards h a Chavon Revel,

1050
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 3: maybe an interior offensive lineman or an offensive lineman like

1051
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 3: Savanea or maybe Ursery somebody like that. But from what

1052
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 3: I hear, and maybe even a tray Amos at this

1053
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 3: point though he does have some injury concerns. But from

1054
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 3: what I hear or what I've been, what people have

1055
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 3: been feeding for me, what I've seen, I think a

1056
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 3: very good chance that they pick here.

1057
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 4: Would bet Tyler shock.

1058
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: Really for the Giants at thirty four? That's interesting? What

1059
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: do you think?

1060
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 4: I guess you don't agree with it.

1061
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: No.

1062
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 2: I love Tyler Shuk. I think he's awesome. I was

1063
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 2: just surprised that's where you went. All right, let me

1064
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 2: attack that in two different ways. What I'm surprised, Corner

1065
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 2: is something you mentioned given they sign Paulson a Debo

1066
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 2: to that big contract. You still hear the Giants are

1067
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 2: after a Day two corner potentially?

1068
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 4: Yes?

1069
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: Interesting?

1070
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 2: Okay, where have you heard teams have Jaylen Milroe in

1071
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 2: this mix?

1072
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 3: I mean, I would be surprised if Jaylen Milroe is

1073
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 3: a first round pick. Somebody did say to me, listen,

1074
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 3: if Anthony Richardson could be the fourth selection of the draft,

1075
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 3: then Jalen Milroe should easily be a first round pick.

1076
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 3: But you know, he did not play like a first

1077
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 3: round or the second half of the year, or the

1078
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:19,280
Speaker 3: Senior Bowl or the combine. I think in my mock draft,

1079
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 3: my last mock draft, I had Milrod going to the

1080
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 3: Raiders with the thirty seventh selection, So he's if he's

1081
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 3: not a late first round pick, I think he's gonna

1082
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 3: be off the board early in round two.

1083
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 2: Okay, I think that makes a lot of sense. What

1084
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,399
Speaker 2: do you think the Browns do with thirty three? Who's

1085
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 2: their second quarterback? If they don't get who's their third quarterback?

1086
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 2: If they don't get cam Ward and they don't get

1087
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 2: Shid or Sanders.

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Speaker 3: I think it'll be Jackson Dart. I think he's a

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00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 3: good fit for that system, and I think with signing

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00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:53,439
Speaker 3: Joe Flacco, it gives them some leeway in the sense

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Speaker 3: that if you draft Jackson Dart excuse me, at the

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Speaker 3: top of round two, you know you're not gonna need

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Speaker 3: to play for a walk because Flacco has been approven

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Speaker 3: winner in Cleveland and he can learn behind a veteran

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Speaker 3: like Flacoh. I think it's a perfect situation for him.

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Speaker 2: What's the chance either the Giants or the Browns or

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00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 2: a team like the Saints or the Jets. You mentioned

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00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 2: them too, right of them trading back into the first

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Speaker 2: round to leap frog the Browns to get that third quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mentioned the Raiders is one of those teams.

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Speaker 1: Raider, so I would be.

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Speaker 3: Surprised because you know, Cleveland and the Giants need players.

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00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 3: They need players who can you know, play in twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty five. Granted I don't know that those players are

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00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 3: Jackson Darter or Tyler Shuck. I think it sets them

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Speaker 3: up for the future. So I think a lot of

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00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 3: those teams, you know, maybe the Raiders would be the

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00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 3: most open to it, but teams at the top round two,

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00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:52,760
Speaker 3: I don't know that they want to be expending draft

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Speaker 3: capital you know they get a quarterback.

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00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:59,280
Speaker 1: Are teams going to be hesitant to move round two

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00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,879
Speaker 1: and round three picks this year, Tony, because it's such

1113
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: a strong draft in that area of the picks.

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00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 3: You always you always get a good amount of movement

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Speaker 3: in those areas. Remember it's also gonna be a strong

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00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 3: Day three. So if you can move down and get

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00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 3: some extra selections in the fourth round. I know it

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00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,359
Speaker 3: doesn't sound sexy, doesn't sound attractive, but you're gonna have

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00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:24,760
Speaker 3: good players through Day three of the draft. It's all

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Speaker 3: based on what the package that they're offered and what

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00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 3: players are available. They're in love with a player that's

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00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,959
Speaker 3: available on the board, I don't think they would move down.

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Speaker 2: That's interesting, all right? Who are the best players you

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00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 2: have left on your board here, Tony? After our thirty

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00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 2: two picks, and I'll listen them very quickly. To the

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00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 2: fans of they're like, wait a second, why don't you

1127
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 2: mention that guy cam Ward first, Travis Hunter, second, Abdul

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Speaker 2: Carter third, Will Campbell, fourth, gent D fifth Graham, sixth, Membo,

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Speaker 2: Jalen Walker, Tyler, Warren, Kelvin Banks, Michael Williams, Matthew Golden,

1130
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 2: and Walter and Owen Coaston Loveland, James Pierce, Derek Carmon,

1131
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 2: Mike Green, Gray's Abel, Malachi Starks, Tan Shore, Sander's A

1132
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 2: Mecca Agbuka, Jaddey Baron, Maxwell Harriston, Josh Connelly, Tyler Booker,

1133
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 2: Shamar Stewart, Donovan Jackson, Amri and Hanton, Kenneth Grant, Josh Simmons,

1134
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 2: and Nick Corton.

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00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: Those are the thirty two. Who are your best guys

1136
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 1: left on your board, Tony.

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00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 3: It would be Nick Emminawari, who I think could end

1138
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 3: up in the first round, no doubt about it. I mean,

1139
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 3: the big safety from South Carolina. I had him going

1140
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:26,760
Speaker 3: to the Colts for the longest time, but I'm told

1141
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 3: the Colts very likely to go tight end, so I

1142
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 3: don't know where he fits afterwards. Like I said, I

1143
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,879
Speaker 3: think Malachi Starks is a much better fit in Todd

1144
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 3: Bowles Tampa Bay defense. Jahad Campbell, who I had going

1145
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 3: through the first round through most of my mock drafts.

1146
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 3: He could still end up as a late first round pick,

1147
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 3: but as I mentioned, red flags because the injuries, specifically

1148
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 3: shoulder injuries which could complicate his rookie season. And then

1149
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 3: Luther Burden. I mean, I really want to put Luther

1150
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:00,919
Speaker 3: Burden in the first round, but I don't know where

1151
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 3: he would fit late in the first round. Obviously, a

1152
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 3: guy that's that was like a lot more in as

1153
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 3: Jim Nagy would say, Twitter draft world than he was

1154
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 3: in NFL war rooms.

1155
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 2: All Right, My top guys i've left are Jehan Campbell

1156
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 2: to your point, Tony Carson Swesssinger is a guy that

1157
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 2: I have a little bit lower, and a lot of

1158
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,760
Speaker 2: NFL teams like him. Jude Baron did not get selected

1159
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 2: in our draft, right, No, he did.

1160
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:28,240
Speaker 1: Oh he did get picked.

1161
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, we had him, We had him.

1162
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty three to the packers, you're right, all right,

1163
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 2: so you cross him off. Golden gun At Buka, Gon

1164
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 2: Connolly gone, Will Johnson gone, Donovan Jackson, grays abel O

1165
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 2: gone dead. Donovan Azaraku would be a guy that I

1166
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 2: have high in my list.

1167
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 4: Uh.

1168
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 2: And then Nick Evin Wari actually is my only guy

1169
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 2: left with like a first second round combo grade. So

1170
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 2: actually it's funny and considering you made most of these Pickstony,

1171
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 2: I know I had some input. Of my top thirty

1172
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,359
Speaker 2: two players on the board, the only ones that did

1173
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 2: not get selected were Nick emin Wari Donovan as Aaku

1174
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 2: and Jehi Campbell. Those are the three guys that kind

1175
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 2: of fell outside that ended up getting that ended up

1176
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 2: uh not getting picked. So yeah, I mean, I think

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Speaker 2: we came up with a pretty good list here in

1178
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 2: terms of where these guys might go. Where are you

1179
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 2: kind of expecting maybe your biggest surprises as you look

1180
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 2: at the Thursday night were you used to have the

1181
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 2: most questions where even you're not sure what's gonna happen.

1182
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 3: Four and five, I mean I've heard from multiple people

1183
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 3: the Patriots could pull a surprise and not go with

1184
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 3: an offensive tackle, which would shock me. And then five

1185
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 3: with Jacksonville. I mean, we thought it was gonna be

1186
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 3: Mason Graham, you know, we thought it could be Armande Membo.

1187
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 3: But there's been so much chatter about Ashton Genty lately.

1188
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 3: They're either throwing up the smoke screen of the century

1189
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 3: or they're gonna pull off a surprise and take Ashton

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Speaker 3: Genty With that selection.

1191
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 2: That could be trying to get teams to trade up too,

1192
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 2: right Tony, you know the team wants them, trying to

1193
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:06,919
Speaker 2: get a team to move up a couple of spots

1194
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:07,359
Speaker 2: to grab him.

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Speaker 1: And you pick up an extra third round pick for

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Speaker 1: your trouble.

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Speaker 3: Right, could be, But I mean, would it be Jacksonville

1198
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Speaker 3: at trades down or would be the Patriots that trade

1199
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,839
Speaker 3: down if to get in front of Jacksonville to get

1200
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 3: to get gent Yeah, it could.

1201
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:19,839
Speaker 1: Be either one.

1202
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 2: To be honest with you, I'm with you, So I

1203
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 2: think that'll be. I think that'll be very very interesting.

1204
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 2: All right, Tony, it just gonna be your final thoughts here.

1205
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 2: We'll recording this little more than forty eight hours before

1206
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Speaker 2: the start of the draft.

1207
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Speaker 1: It'll post about thirty six hours before the draft.

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Speaker 2: You tell me, give me your final thoughts heading into

1209
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 2: today one of the twenty twenty five draft.

1210
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Speaker 1: As we've gone on this long journey together, I.

1211
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 3: Think it's going to be interesting to see which players

1212
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,839
Speaker 3: that we all expected to be first round picks fall out.

1213
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 3: I mean, we mentioned Johan Campbell, and I mentioned why

1214
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 3: because of the injuries. We talked about Luther Burden. I

1215
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 3: think the cults where they selected fourteen, I'm hearing a

1216
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 3: lot of love for for a tight end. So it

1217
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 3: looks like Colston Louvelin. You know, I think that the

1218
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 3: three big stories as more as I'm concerned when it

1219
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 3: comes to players, is Shador Sanders, Tyler Warren and Shamar Stewart?

1220
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,760
Speaker 3: Where do they end up? Are they going to be overdrafted?

1221
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 3: I mean, very good chance Tyler Warren ends up as

1222
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:17,919
Speaker 3: a top ten pick. To me, he's not a top

1223
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 3: ten prospect. You know, Chador Sanders is basically the Shador

1224
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 3: Sanders story has sucked all the oxygen out of the

1225
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 3: room the past month. But when you look at him,

1226
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 3: you know he's a nice prospect, he's not a great prospect.

1227
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:36,280
Speaker 3: And Shamar Stewart who potentially could be a great prospect,

1228
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 3: but he's just not a real good football player.

1229
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 4: How early is he going to go in the draft?

1230
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 2: Tony, good stuff, Tell the folks what they expect. Add

1231
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 2: on sports Keita in the days leading up to the draft.

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00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of breaking news, a lot of stories there.

1233
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 3: Try and get one up every day. I'm sure we'll

1234
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 3: have one Thursday before first round, Friday before day two

1235
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:01,720
Speaker 3: and two, if not three round draft. You said Wednesday

1236
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 3: probably gonna be Thursday morning.

1237
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 1: Make sure you go check that out on sports sky

1238
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 1: to with Tony Polline.

1239
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 2: Of course, if you want to hear him again, he'll

1240
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:12,479
Speaker 2: be on WFN with us with our Live Giants Draft

1241
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 2: Night preview show on Wednesday night. Paul and I will

1242
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 2: go from seven to eighth and Tony Pauline will join

1243
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:19,839
Speaker 2: us for the second half of the show from eight

1244
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 2: to nine on WFAN in New York. You can find

1245
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 2: it at one on one nine FM six to sixty AM.

1246
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 1: That six to sixty signal goes all the way to

1247
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 1: Ohio at night, so you guys can hear that a

1248
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 1: while away, or you can find us on the Odyssey

1249
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 1: app that night as well.

1250
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 2: For Tony Pauline, I'm Johshmulk. Thanks for being with us

1251
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 2: through this journey of draft season. Do't worry, folks, we

1252
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 2: all have a reaction on draft season on Thursday night

1253
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 2: of the Draft. We're gonna have a wrap up show

1254
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 2: airing next Monday, and then our final episode before we

1255
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 2: take our little three month hiatus will be Tony's look

1256
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 2: ahead to the twenty twenty sixth draft class. I believe

1257
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 2: he's already on that tape ready to go and talk

1258
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 2: about those twenty twenty six prospects.

1259
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Speaker 1: He's not, but neither remind but that's okay. We'll be

1260
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 1: ready when we need to be for Tony Poulin. I'm

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00:56:58,680 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 1: Johns Schmulk.

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00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,520
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