WEBVTT - Hour 3 - Ed Orgeron (07-16-20) 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:03.480 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:10.319 Sports Radio. Welcome to the program, program three two one. 0:00:10.720 --> 0:00:13.280 Welcome to the program. Final Hour, Dan and m Dannen's 0:00:13.400 --> 0:00:17.400 Dan Patrick Show. We had a spirited discussion talking about 0:00:17.440 --> 0:00:20.599 the greatness of Luca don Chick and Zion Williamson and 0:00:20.640 --> 0:00:23.439 if you could have either one right now, who would 0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:28.560 you take to me? No brainer. As much as Zion 0:00:28.760 --> 0:00:32.320 is a TV star, Luca is a better basketball player 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:36.559 and feel like he's Yeah, keep this in mind. Fewest 0:00:36.600 --> 0:00:39.760 games to one three thousand points, one thousand rebounds, seven 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:42.240 hundred and fifty assists in an NBA career. This is 0:00:42.280 --> 0:00:46.480 all time. Oscar Robertson needed ninety nine games to get there. 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:50.680 Luca is second at one twenty four. Third is Grant Hill, 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:52.800 and Grant Hill was going to be one of the 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:55.280 greats who ever played the game. If he had stayed 0:00:55.320 --> 0:00:57.760 healthy and all of his surgeries, he was on a 0:00:57.800 --> 0:01:00.200 fast track for being one of the great players of 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:02.640 all time. Larry Bird is fourth on the list, and 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:08.000 then Lebron James. These are pretty impressive numbers for somebody 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:10.440 who's that young to be able to do what they're doing. 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:14.560 And Zion I think Zion's been better than I thought 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:16.160 he was going to be. I thought he was going 0:01:16.200 --> 0:01:18.240 to be kind of a Julius Randall as far as 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:22.520 a twenty ten guy his first year. Now he's got 0:01:22.560 --> 0:01:26.000 twenty three and a half and seven rebounds. But you 0:01:26.040 --> 0:01:29.480 know he's on a numbers crunch there. He's got thirty minutes. 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:31.720 I think he's playing average of thirty minutes, maybe a 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:35.319 little less than that. But you know, he said that 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:38.000 he's kind of gone back to the basics here during 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:40.480 the pandemic, and he looks like he's in even better 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:43.440 shape there. That's a big concern I have. At that size, 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:47.400 he's going to get bigger and as you know, can 0:01:47.480 --> 0:01:50.000 you carry that weight to be able to do what 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:52.200 he does on a night in and night out basis? 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:55.800 Can he get into a better weight or more muscle there? 0:01:55.920 --> 0:02:00.240 But you know he's limited with his shot. You know, 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:02.560 he has a hard he doesn't get off a shot, 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:05.840 you know, coming off a dribble, uh to set shot. 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:09.200 But he gets into the paint, he's gonna score or 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:11.720 you're gonna get foul. I think he's an underrated passer 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:16.440 and uh offensive rebounder. But you know, lukea is just 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:22.040 a better player. Yeah, can either guy play defense? Well, okay, 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:24.760 do we do this? How many times do we do this? 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:28.760 Where some guys really good, like Steve Nash. Oh, who's 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:33.000 he gonna guard? Um? Who's guarding him? Yeah? But Lebron 0:02:33.200 --> 0:02:36.480 is a monster on defense, Kobe was amazing defense, Jordan 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:40.000 was amazing. Okay, but no championship guys. When the last 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:43.600 time somebody said, uh, hey, stuff can't guard anybody the 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:46.519 opposing coach and said, let's go at him four hundred 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:49.600 times a game? So and then how many titles does 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:52.000 he have? Yeah, I know it's it, but but he's 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:57.120 guarding him. But didn't play defense. He played the passing lanes. 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:00.880 I mean you can. I'll give you Patrick Beverly, I'll 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:05.240 take Steph Curry. What if I gave you like Kawhi 0:03:05.600 --> 0:03:09.840 versus don Check like a guy like I would take Kawhi. 0:03:10.040 --> 0:03:12.200 You like defense. That's why I'm saying that you always 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:15.079 stick to these guys like, well, no, but how many 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:19.800 players are like Kawai, like Lebron Kawhi. Kawai wants to 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:23.400 play defense. He started as a defender. Remember, we didn't 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:27.240 know about his offense that that appeared limited, but he 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:30.560 was very good defensive player. Well how about the Jordan 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:33.960 defensive hype? Was he that good defense? Yes, but he 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:37.560 wanted the challenge. But I always thought Scotty was a 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:41.720 better defender because I thought Scotty could defend everybody, and 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:45.520 Michael wanted to play the passing lanes. Scotty was a 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:48.400 great on ball defender. I mean, you go back to 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:51.040 what he did to Mark Jackson, our friend Mark Jackson 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:55.840 and the NBA Finals or conference finals. He picked him 0:03:55.920 --> 0:03:58.280 up full court and it wasn't a good series for 0:03:58.360 --> 0:04:01.760 Mark Jackson. It's Scotty could guard anybody on the floor. 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:04.720 But you know, we get caught up in who can 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:07.600 he guard? Yeah, Luca can't guard anybody who's guarding him. 0:04:09.520 --> 0:04:12.600 Can Zion play defense? He sure doesn't. There's all these 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:18.719 clips of him watching this guy to do. Yes, there's 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:21.800 a There was like a handful of players that you 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:27.160 would can like Klay Thompson plays defense. Now Clay Thompson 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:30.440 will play both ends. But it's rare when you find 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:33.280 something because you have to want to play defense. A 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:35.440 lot of these guys you can't go. Boy, he's got 0:04:35.480 --> 0:04:37.760 all this talent on the offensive end, and he has 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:41.520 no talent on the defensive end. I'm gonna guess you 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:43.760 can move your feet, you're quick, you can jump. You 0:04:43.760 --> 0:04:45.320 should be able to do that at the other end 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:47.880 as well. Yes, PAULI, I wonder how many league MVPs 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:50.680 or finals MVPs have also been Defensive Player of the Year, 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:53.960 because I know, I know Jordan has. Oh maybe Elijah 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:56.240 On I wouldn't be surprised if he was. I don't 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:58.880 know if he was League MVP. Probably was once and 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:02.280 he was definitely defensive end. Kawhi Leonard two time Defensive 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:06.200 Player of the Year in the NBA fourteen and fifteen 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:09.440 fifteen sixteen. Yes, there's a lot of people saying Yannis 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:11.920 might win it this year. Yeah, and I could see that, 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:15.839 you know he was. He's great two way player. Uh, 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:18.960 Anthony Davis has been a great two way player. He's 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:21.520 I just read he's the competition. It's what two man 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:23.839 race of those guys. You know that guy. Those guys 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:26.520 are great at defense and could score like that. A 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:32.000 team did it twice, Jordan did it once. Yeah, I 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:35.000 don't it feels like the game the way the game 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:38.240 is played now. I don't know how important defense is. 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:43.080 It's everything is predicated by spacing. And you know how 0:05:43.120 --> 0:05:48.080 many shots are you getting up? Uh? You know shooting threes? Now, 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:51.040 James Harden doesn't play defense. I like when they say, 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:54.400 well he's gotten better, Well he hadn't get better, right, 0:05:54.680 --> 0:06:00.440 he couldn't have gotten any worse. He's still you got 0:06:00.520 --> 0:06:03.039 a guard James Harden. So when you say well he's 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:05.640 not guarding anybody, you still have to guard him. And 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:09.239 not many people can guard him as well. All righty uh, 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:12.040 we'll talk to ed Orgeron or as PAULI said, is 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:15.279 it ed Oseron or Orgeron? I've heard it both ways? 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:17.920 Was it when he was at USC it was pronounced 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:19.960 one way? And then he got to LSU and maybe 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:22.480 down in Baton Rouge they pronounced it differently. I think 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:24.840 they dropped the first R when he got down to 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:29.000 Baton Rouge. So it's just some w You can call 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:30.600 me whatever you want, just don't call me lead for 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:36.320 dinner there, Danny? Is that a better personation? Um? I 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:38.360 think it's not anything like her here. Well, why don't 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:42.040 you do that for coach? Yeah? Just say hey, coach 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:45.560 m Fritzie has an impression of you hey, coach, and 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:49.520 have a fifty hundred thousand in the stands. Is that 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:58.680 your Springsteen in person perspective? Thank you, Todd de Valley, 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:01.840 Thank you, Tod all right, thank you Tod. All right. 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:04.280 So are we gonna go with a poll question? We 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:08.360 gotta put up Zion versus Luca, which is, by the way, 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:11.480 not that different than our first two hours, which was Kittle, McCaffrey, 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:14.720 Michael Thomas and McCaffrey right away with do you think 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:17.400 Luca runs away with? Luca is a Christian McCaffrey of 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:22.680 the NBA. Oh okay, enormous record setting numbers are both 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:25.760 like ridiculously young. Yeah, but Luca plays on a playoff 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:28.840 team and McCaffrey is not going to be on a 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:31.520 playoff team anytime soon. Yeah, Paul, whose agent would you 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:36.640 rather be? Patrick Mahomes or Zion Williamson. One's Global are 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:39.800 about to be Global. One is the face of the NFL. 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:41.520 I'd have to look at what numbers are going to 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:44.400 be like in the NBA because the hit that they 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:47.720 took from the billions they lost from China. I don't 0:07:47.760 --> 0:07:51.880 know if that affects the salary cap here, but how 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:55.680 many years before Zion gets into that next contract and 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:59.600 what is he going to get paid? Does his year 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:01.800 at Duke as an ac crude season? I don't, Wow, 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:09.160 I'm just reading the headlines. Wow, that story kind of 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:13.880 went away, right, It just sort of floated off. You'll 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:16.760 see a headline every few days about the case. I know, 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:19.520 but every time, you know, you read these articles and 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:23.520 you know, breathlessly saying, oh, Kansas and Bill's self are 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:25.440 in trouble, and then you read it and then you 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:29.840 go okay, and then you wait and you go, uh, anybody, 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:33.280 no nothing here, because the nc DOUBLEA is waiting for 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:36.960 Yahoo or ESPN or somebody to do a deep dive 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:40.840 on these stories. And they should be paying Yahoo's sports 0:08:41.440 --> 0:08:44.240 like Dan Wetzel should get a stipend from the NCAA 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:47.000 to do some of their dirty work there because they're 0:08:47.040 --> 0:08:51.040 not doing it. Uh. Let me see get some phone 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:53.160 calls in here. Do you see where Jimmy Butler got 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:59.000 in trouble at the inside the Bubble? Yeah? He Uh. 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:07.360 Hotel security went to Jimmy Butler's room after complaints of 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:12.679 loud basketball dribbling. Yeah. See, so is that other basketball 0:09:12.720 --> 0:09:19.400 players complaining about Jimmy dribbling the ball too loud. I 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:26.800 don't think there's a family downstairs at the hotel. Yes time, 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:28.520 supposing they didn't know what it was. At first, they 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:32.520 heard some loud thumping sound and someone called complaining about 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:33.960 I don't enough it was necessary a player or just 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:36.840 some family trying to enjoy relaxing to stay at Disney, 0:09:36.840 --> 0:09:38.640 and they hit his loud thumping and it turns out 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:42.120 he's just dribbling a basketball. He's in his full practice uniform, 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:43.840 you know, trying to just kind of do his own 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:45.800 thing and get ready for get ready for the season. 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:49.320 Didn't he arrive for his first practice with the Miami 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:53.559 heated three thirty in the morning, right sit outside. I 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:58.280 think he showed up like six hours or something before 0:09:58.280 --> 0:10:01.440 the practice. It was a eduled shoot around or something. 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:08.040 But you know, dribbling the basketball, Hey, knock it off. 0:10:08.840 --> 0:10:10.959 I don't think you're gonna have a family underneath him 0:10:11.000 --> 0:10:13.520 that in the in the hotel. I'm just guessing, but 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:16.880 I don't think that they're gonna be underneath you. Yeah, mclove. 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:19.000 I always I like the joke. We made it. Yeah, 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:21.160 what if they didn't they had families in there, and 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:22.880 you didn't know about the NBA bubble and you're walking 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:25.080 around a lot of it. Why so tall in this hotel? 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:27.920 What is going on there? Heard that? Are they? Are 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:30.600 they having a tall convention? Like you're with Chris Stops 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:32.800 and JaVale McGee. I'd be like, this is the weirdest. 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:34.400 I think you got to be over six to eight 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:38.000 to be in this hotel. It still goes back to 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:41.319 I think one of the greatest stories that I ever heard, 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:44.160 and it's right out of a Seinfeld or Curb Your 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:48.920 Enthusiasm episode, because you cannot even when I tell you 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:52.040 the story, you're gonna go there is no way that 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:57.360 is possible. And it did happen because a friend of mine, 0:10:57.880 --> 0:11:01.160 he worked in the mail room at ESPN when he 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:04.600 first started, and his job was to go pick up people. 0:11:04.800 --> 0:11:08.199 He would be a driver for some people, executives who 0:11:08.200 --> 0:11:10.880 were coming in, somebody had landed at the airport. He'd 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:15.080 go pick up Dick Vitau, and he was given the 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:20.560 assignment of picking up a man who largely transforms Sports 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:24.360 Center into what it is today, and John Walsh. So 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:28.760 my friend is told to go pick up John Walsh 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:31.959 at the Radison Hotel, which is right across the street 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:36.520 from the mother Ship, and they go up. Okay, I 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:39.439 don't know what he looks like. You can't miss him. 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:44.960 He's an albino. So my friend goes over to the 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:55.600 Radison Hotel and walks in. It's an albino convention and 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:59.160 he so he calls back and he says, they're all 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:03.040 albio knows here, like he thought he was being punked. 0:12:03.360 --> 0:12:05.720 So he walks in it. You can't miss John. He's 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:09.360 an albino. He'll be waiting for you. He walks in, 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:14.320 and he said, everybody in there, fifty albinos there in 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:19.120 the lobby. It was like an albino convention. And meanwhile 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:23.760 John Walsh, who was just starting his tenure at ESPN. God, 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:26.720 I love that story though. Can't miss him. Mike, go 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:30.480 in there. He's in the lobby. They're all albinos here, 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:36.240 And Walsh loves John. Walsh loves telling the story too. 0:12:37.880 --> 0:12:40.880 Like when it came to albino humor, Walsh always had 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:44.080 some funny lines about that. Let me see a couple 0:12:44.080 --> 0:12:47.720 of phone calls in here Walts and Cincinnati joins us, Hi, Walt, 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:50.400 what do you have for me today? Hey? Dan? First 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:53.880 time caller seventy five years old. If I foot nine 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:56.439 two twelve, I would like for you to wish my 0:12:57.120 --> 0:12:59.760 all a son his fiftiest birthday. Today's name is Mark. 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:02.880 Hey Mark, happy fiftieth birthday. And you got a great 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:06.800 dad who called into a wonderful radio show. So I 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:08.840 hope you have a great day. And thank you Wald 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:13.680 for calling in Andy and Tennessee on the program high 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:17.040 ending What's on your mind today? Hey Man five eight 0:13:17.080 --> 0:13:21.720 one seventy Yeah, So I actually went to the Alstar 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:24.640 Race last night. Had a great time. Can't complain about 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:27.520 go and see some live sports and racing. We'll say 0:13:27.600 --> 0:13:30.520 that they do need to do some adjustments for crowds. 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:33.800 Seating was fine, I felt spaced out. Let me mention 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:36.640 here Andy, we're talking about Bristol Motor Speedway and they 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:39.840 had around twenty thousand fans there for a place that 0:13:40.040 --> 0:13:42.599 holds over one hundred and twenty thousand. What were the 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:45.760 rules when you went into the NASCAR race event? So 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:48.720 the rules were when you go to basically going through 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:50.640 the ticket booth, you have to have a mask on, 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:52.439 and then you have to have a mask on. Why 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:54.600 you walk through the concourses and then when you sit down, 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:57.040 you can take off your mask. Now, I'll say, yeah, 0:13:57.040 --> 0:13:59.040 when you sit down in your seat, you feel pretty comfortable. 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:02.360 It's pretty spaced out in that track. But when you're 0:14:02.400 --> 0:14:04.800 walking to the concourses, it was pretty crowded. I mean 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:06.760 there was a lot of people not wearing masks and 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:09.200 they didn't really have a lot of social disencing when 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:12.120 they're waiting in line for concessions and diffythings like that. 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:15.600 But I think once they go towards maybe NFL stadiums, 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:17.720 I mean, they're gonna do maybe a lot less than 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:20.680 twenty thousand because it's it can get crowded in those concourses. Yeah, 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:23.200 and thank you Andy. We were wondering about that where 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:25.080 and I thought this was going to be maybe an 0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:29.080 underplayed story because twenty thousand fans at a sporting event, 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:34.040 and you know, it's outside NASCAR event at night, And 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:36.320 I wondered, what happens once you get to your seat 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:38.880 where you're allowed to take off your mask. If you're 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:43.280 going to have a college football scenario, can you put 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:46.280 in twenty five or thirty thousand fans in a stadium 0:14:46.320 --> 0:14:49.560 that seats one hundred thousand. Can Michigan put in thirty 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:55.600 thousand fans safely. Can Tennessee volunteers put in thirty forty 0:14:55.640 --> 0:14:58.680 thousand in a place that holds over one hundred thousand. 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:01.600 This is what I'm curious about. Can we do it? 0:15:01.800 --> 0:15:05.160 Do it safely, smartly, and then maybe we do get 0:15:05.200 --> 0:15:09.920 fans that go to sporting events. But I just didn't know. 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:11.680 Once you got into the concourse, you went up to 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:14.480 get a beer, get something to eat, and everybody's up 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:19.360 there without mask on. There in lines the problem. But 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:25.440 NASCAR with twenty thousand fans, which I thought was surprising. 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:29.760 Robin Florida joins us Hi Rob what's on your mind today? Hey? Dan? 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:31.680 How you doing six one a hafty two and a 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:35.680 half bills? Hey? I wanted to kind of chime in 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:37.920 on the NBA defense discussion. I got a couple of 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:41.200 numbers and a quick story. First, to defend my guy Harden. 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:43.800 He's constantly in the top ten in blocks and steals 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:45.960 among guards every year, and he's one of the best 0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:49.200 post defenders in the NBA percentile wise. But a quick story. 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:52.400 This isn't just hardened specific, but I played in a 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:54.760 church league. I am not an athlete, as I said, six, one, 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:58.200 two and a half and so. But we had a 0:15:58.200 --> 0:15:59.640 guy who played on our team is a good friend 0:15:59.640 --> 0:16:01.960 of mine. Even the G League played overseas, had some 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:06.040 injuries that derailed an NBA potential career. But he scored 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:09.160 all our points every game that we played. He would 0:16:09.200 --> 0:16:10.960 go for seventy points a game and the rest of 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:13.520 us would have eight. But when it came to the 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:16.240 defensive side, I was tasked regarding the best player, not 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:18.040 because I was the best basketball player, but he was 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:20.480 so tired. And I see in the NBA allotted day, 0:16:20.600 --> 0:16:22.920 a lot of guys are asked to carry the load offensively, 0:16:22.960 --> 0:16:27.440 these volume shooters like Luca, like Trey Young, like Harden. 0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:30.240 Not so much now anymore with Russ by his side, 0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:32.200 But they can't keep it up on both sides of 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:34.520 the floor, which is what made Mike so great and 0:16:34.680 --> 0:16:37.720 Kobe and Lebron. But just the NBA nowadays, there's not 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:40.880 so much emphasis on defense. No, And you bring up 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:44.240 some great points, thank you, Rob that I've always marveled 0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:48.200 at Iverson at that size. Every single night he had 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:52.040 to bring it. And if you've never had that pressure, 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:58.320 it's enormous. You have to get shots up volume the offense. 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:01.480 You know, it is predicated on you being able to 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:05.040 get shots on and Harden doing that every night, Trey 0:17:05.080 --> 0:17:09.440 Young doing that every night. Alan Iverson, I thought Iverson 0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:11.320 could have been a great two way player. I thought 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:13.480 at Georgetown he could have been a great two way player. 0:17:14.720 --> 0:17:17.439 He got into the NBA and you know, he was 0:17:17.480 --> 0:17:20.879 a great one dimensional player, but he would lead the 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:23.679 league in steels. You know a lot of your guys 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:28.000 who are scorers can play the passing lanes like they'll 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:30.600 cheat a little bit. You know, Bird played the passing 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:34.840 lanes all the time, Barkley because they're trying to get 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:39.320 the ball back. Steph Curry plays the passing lanes. Iverson 0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:41.840 played the You know, they're not great lockdown defenders, but 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:44.679 they're great off the ball defenders from the standpoint of 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:49.119 they're playing the passing lanes. And it would always do. 0:17:49.800 --> 0:17:53.919 I remember when Steph Curry was at Davidson and the 0:17:54.040 --> 0:17:57.879 knock was, well, what position is he gonna play? Who's 0:17:57.880 --> 0:18:01.800 he gonna guard? And I always and maybe this is 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:04.600 an offensive mentality that I have, and that is you 0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:08.440 still have to guard that guy. And Steve Nash when 0:18:08.440 --> 0:18:11.640 I saw him in Santa Clara. I went, I don't 0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:14.719 he can't guard me, and I didn't mean it as 0:18:14.760 --> 0:18:19.640 any disrespect, but you realize how great some of these 0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:22.480 guys are at the other end, and how much pressure 0:18:22.520 --> 0:18:25.160 that puts on you, and how that changes your game 0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:29.399 plan and your rotations and your substitutions, you know, and 0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:32.720 not enough credit is given to those players. And look, 0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:34.560 I knock Harden all the time that you know he 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:37.720 doesn't play defense. I want you to at least try 0:18:37.760 --> 0:18:42.560 to play defense. I just try to do that, and 0:18:43.200 --> 0:18:46.320 maybe he is better. But there was a time when 0:18:46.640 --> 0:18:49.159 you know, Lebron got called out by his own teammates, 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:52.400 you know, the previous year he's mailing in it on defense. 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:57.080 But then there's part of that you must pace yourself, 0:18:57.560 --> 0:19:00.640 especially if you're Lebron. You know, Jordan, you know that 0:19:00.640 --> 0:19:04.639 that ability to be that kind of player at both 0:19:04.760 --> 0:19:07.680 ends when you had the same kind of intensity at 0:19:07.760 --> 0:19:10.760 one end. It you know, Kobe towards the end of 0:19:10.760 --> 0:19:14.000 his career in not playing defense. I don't know if 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:16.480 Michael ever got to that point, maybe with the Wizards, 0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:20.640 but he took every challenge. And that's a guy who 0:19:20.640 --> 0:19:26.080 didn't have another speed. It was one speed whereas some 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:28.560 of these other players. And I can't even put Jordan 0:19:28.640 --> 0:19:30.480 in that conversation. I mean, it's just not fair to 0:19:30.520 --> 0:19:34.159 anybody else. He played one speed, but still at the 0:19:34.200 --> 0:19:38.640 other end played the same speed, and that's exceptional. That's 0:19:38.680 --> 0:19:42.240 so hard to do. Todd's gonna do his impression of 0:19:42.680 --> 0:19:46.640 ed Orgeron to the wait. I know he's not that great, 0:19:46.640 --> 0:19:49.359 but I'll do it. I'm gonna get He's not gonna 0:19:49.400 --> 0:19:52.520 be probably. We were just talking about how to pronounce 0:19:52.560 --> 0:19:57.160 his name. You know, you didn't put me on the spot, 0:19:57.359 --> 0:20:00.640 but you didn't early before the show started, and then 0:20:00.680 --> 0:20:06.359 you didn't get any reaction. I get. Maybe I'll try agin, 0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:08.760 I know, but we didn't give you a reaction the 0:20:08.760 --> 0:20:11.480 first time you did it. Three hours now you're in 0:20:11.520 --> 0:20:13.680 my head. I'm like, it sounds too much like Bruce Springstein, 0:20:13.760 --> 0:20:15.360 my attempt to try to sound like coach, and that's 0:20:15.359 --> 0:20:17.720 going to come out. They ball. It doesn't sound anything 0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:19.200 like that. I was right. It sounds more like remember 0:20:19.359 --> 0:20:21.640 Chuck the motto that wasn't the coach of NC State 0:20:21.800 --> 0:20:25.399 or Rick Maybe a little Rick majeris sprinkled in. There's 0:20:25.440 --> 0:20:27.320 not a lot of people are calling for those kind 0:20:27.359 --> 0:20:30.119 of impressures. It's a niche, but Christy's nail. Hey, can 0:20:30.160 --> 0:20:31.879 you do the chuck the motto impressure to do that 0:20:31.920 --> 0:20:34.560 in vegas of Rick Majeris shows. I like that impressure. Maybe. 0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:37.480 All right, let me take a break here. By the way, 0:20:37.760 --> 0:20:41.080 the NFL Players Association has announced the number of players 0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:46.440 who have tested positive as of last week. I'm gonna 0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:52.040 give you an over under of seventy five. Give you 0:20:52.080 --> 0:20:54.760 the answer after this on The Dan Patrick Show. Thanks 0:20:54.760 --> 0:20:57.200 for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure 0:20:57.200 --> 0:21:00.680 to catch us live every weekday morning nine town Eastern 0:21:00.880 --> 0:21:03.800 or six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find 0:21:03.800 --> 0:21:06.080 your local station for The Dan Patrick Show at Fox 0:21:06.080 --> 0:21:09.120 Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every day 0:21:09.160 --> 0:21:13.520 on the iHeartRadio app by searching f s R. This 0:21:13.720 --> 0:21:16.320 program brought to you by Mercedes AMG. Be prepared for 0:21:16.320 --> 0:21:19.080 whatever comes your way. 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Polly just gave me the news here. 0:21:52.840 --> 0:21:56.800 Pelican Zion Williamson is left Orlando to tend to an 0:21:56.880 --> 0:22:01.280 urgent family medical matter. Plans to return or season restart 0:22:01.680 --> 0:22:05.119 at a later date. That's gonna push him back, is 0:22:05.119 --> 0:22:07.280 an He's gonna have to be quarantined again. He's the 0:22:07.480 --> 0:22:10.640 head coach of the LSU Tikers, he said, Orzron, who 0:22:10.680 --> 0:22:12.800 joins us on the program. Coach, you look good, you 0:22:12.840 --> 0:22:16.280 look like you're in shape, great tan hair looks good. 0:22:16.320 --> 0:22:19.879 What have you been up to? Its silver time, A 0:22:19.880 --> 0:22:22.680 lot of time to work out during this COVID nineteen 0:22:23.000 --> 0:22:25.880 break that we had. We're excited to have our team back. 0:22:25.920 --> 0:22:29.080 Then we're ready to go. What's what's your max bench? 0:22:29.320 --> 0:22:33.560 What can you do of bench No? Three fifteen, three 0:22:33.720 --> 0:22:38.760 fifteen or three fifty fifteen? Wow? All right? If all 0:22:38.760 --> 0:22:43.359 of the SEC coaches had a bench press content. Who's winning? 0:22:44.359 --> 0:22:47.840 I don't know. I don't ask him that you can 0:22:47.880 --> 0:22:51.240