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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton

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Speaker 1: Show Wednesday edition. We appreciate all of you hanging out

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Speaker 1: with us. We are now becoming aware of actual voting data.

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Speaker 1: There are enough states that are weighing in, whether it's Iowa,

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Speaker 1: whether it's New Hampshire, whether it's South Carolina. And last

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Speaker 1: night we got the data in from Michigan and it

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Speaker 1: is interesting, to say the least, I think, in some

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Speaker 1: a very positive night of primary data for Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about Gretchen Whitmer and whether or not she

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Speaker 1: has much control over the state of Michigan. She, of

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Speaker 1: course is the governor with the woman who ran against

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Speaker 1: her tutor Dixon, and who knows the math of Michigan

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Speaker 1: politics better than almost anyone. She's going to join us

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Speaker 1: at the top of the third hour, also a part

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Speaker 1: of the Clay and Buck podcast network, and we'll see

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Speaker 1: what she thinks about Trump's chances coming out of this primary.

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Speaker 1: But there were three things that stood out to me

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Speaker 1: in particular on both sides. One, Trump in every primary

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Speaker 1: since New Hampshire has been increasing the amount of space

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Speaker 1: between he and Nicki Haley. According to the latest forecast,

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Speaker 1: it looks like he's going to win by around forty

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Speaker 1: three or forty four points.

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Speaker 2: Over Nicki Haley.

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Speaker 1: That is a beatdown of epic proportions, I think, and

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Speaker 1: to continue to reinforce that Nicki Haley is making herself

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Speaker 1: look awful by deciding to stay in this race.

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Speaker 2: Point two, over one hundred.

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Speaker 1: Thousand people in Michigan voted uncommitted for Joe Biden. That

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Speaker 1: is I think a sign of the difficulties that he

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Speaker 1: has in Michigan in particular, which has a large Jewish

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Speaker 1: and a large Arab population, and those two sides obviously

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Speaker 1: are fighting in an aggressive way and there isn't really

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Speaker 1: a way to make both of those parties happy at

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Speaker 1: this point. And I think Joe Biden's in a really

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Speaker 1: tough spot there where he loses Arab and Jewish voter support.

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Speaker 1: And then the third part I went back and looked

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Speaker 1: at the data. Trump buck is getting more votes than

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden is in this Michigan primary. That is, more

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Speaker 1: Republicans came out just looking at Donald Trump then came

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Speaker 1: out to support Joe Biden. Now you can say, well,

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Speaker 1: that's because Michigan doesn't have that contested of a primary

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Speaker 2: Okay, you can make arguments, but I went.

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Speaker 1: Back and looked buck twenty sixteen, both Bernie and Hillary

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Speaker 1: got more votes than Donald Trump did in Michigan. And

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Speaker 1: we know Trump went on to win Michigan by around

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Speaker 1: ten and a half ten or eleven thousand votes in

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, and then in twenty twenty, when Trump was

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Speaker 1: running uncommitted, Joe Biden got a lot more votes than

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Speaker 1: he did in Michigan in twenty twenty. So Trump has

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Speaker 1: never gotten more votes than the Democrat contenders in his political.

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Speaker 2: History in sixteen, twenty or twenty four.

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Speaker 1: That feels to me like Republicans are fairly engaged in

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Speaker 1: voting for Donald Trump. Those are my three big takeaways

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Speaker 1: what stood out to you as we sit now here,

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Speaker 1: what six days from Super Tuesday, when we'll get even

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Speaker 2: It's so hard because the temptation is to think that

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Speaker 2: this is a dry run address rehearsal for the November election, right,

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Speaker 2: But the truth is, especially if you're talking about protest votes,

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Speaker 2: people can do a protest vote here knowing in terms

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Speaker 2: of the Biden stuff. It doesn't matter, right, So they

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Speaker 2: they wanted, well, I think they wanted ten thousand protest

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Speaker 2: they ended up getting like sixty or seventy thousand, right,

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Speaker 2: something substantially higher. And this is meaningful insofar as in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty Biden officially. Don't tell me that you don't

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Speaker 2: like the numbers. Okay, I'm just reading the official numbers.

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Speaker 2: Whatever one thinks of the numbers. Biden in twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: officially won by one hundred and fifty thousand votes. Trump

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Speaker 2: won it in twenty sixteen against Hillary by eleven thousand votes.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, very narrow margin. Even one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 2: whatever you think about the election rules and changes, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: So it doesn't have to be a lot for it

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Speaker 2: really gauge in advance what these trends are going to

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Speaker 2: turn into? For example, to vote uncommitted right now, I mean,

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Speaker 2: let's just go through this problem. They're voting uncommitted Biden

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Speaker 2: because they don't like what's going on in Gaza. Gaza

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Speaker 2: think I'm making something of a prediction here, but Gaza

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Speaker 2: that's not There's almost no chance in my mind that

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Speaker 2: enhanced at that point is you will have people running

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Speaker 2: the different packs and everything else. I think they'll shift

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Speaker 2: the conversation away from this. So the protests vote today,

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Speaker 2: when it doesn't matter. That's a very different calculation than

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Speaker 2: protest voters. Right. So that's the one big takeaway that

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Speaker 2: data point into a big bowl of them already, Joe

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Speaker 2: Biden has a lot of weakness, there's a lot of dissatisfaction,

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Speaker 2: there's a lack of enthusiasm. Clearly, he has a glass jaw,

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Speaker 2: as they would say in boxing. Clearly there's a possibility

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Speaker 2: here that Biden is going to continue to I think,

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Speaker 2: lose support, not gain support from anybody who's a truly

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Speaker 2: uncommitted or persuadable voter. So those are my biggest takeaways.

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Speaker 2: And you know, it's tough to look at the Trump numbers,

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Speaker 2: I think and really know what this tells or you

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Speaker 2: know the Trump and Biden numbers, and know what this

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Speaker 2: really tells us going forward, because I think all the

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Speaker 2: Nicky Haley voters are gonna they're all going to vote

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Speaker 2: for Trump by and large, except for the ones who

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Speaker 2: are Democrats that flipped over to vote for Nicky Haley

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Speaker 2: to try to embarrass Trump, of which there is a

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Speaker 2: substantial amount and we'll play that for you in a sec.

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Speaker 2: But the other part here that I think is significant.

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Speaker 2: If you're saying, Okay, what have we learned so far?

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Speaker 2: I would just reinforce that by and large, the polls

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Speaker 2: are getting things right so far.

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Speaker 1: Now, if it's going to come down and it may

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Speaker 1: probably very much likely to your point, one hundred and

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Speaker 1: no matter how great the polling is, when it's coming

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Speaker 1: down to a pinprick of the overall electorate, it doesn't

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Speaker 1: take very much for them to be wrong. Right when

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Speaker 2: What I think is and I'm glad we have Tutor

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Speaker 2: her before when we were out in South Bend, Indiana

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Speaker 2: together during a live event. She got deep into the

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Speaker 2: electoral machinery of Michigan and the Democrats have a better

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Speaker 2: machine now, a better can in this case, Trump maybe

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Speaker 2: don't want to be going into this with Democrats having

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Speaker 2: better ballot chase, better early vote. I mean, i'd have

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Speaker 2: to look at what the rules are in Michigan specifically,

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Speaker 2: but all the things we talk about ballot chase, early voting,

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Speaker 2: make such a big difference. So we'll talk to her

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Speaker 2: about because to me, that still, when you're talking about

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Speaker 1: You also said something interesting that I would put just

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Speaker 1: in the back of people's minds here. We talk a

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Speaker 1: lot about October surprises, and we're sitting here basically eight

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Speaker 1: surprises we think about in the context of the New

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Speaker 1: There have been a bevy of October surprises over the years.

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Speaker 1: One thing that I would put in the back of

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Speaker 1: everybody's mind to think about buck what would happen if

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Speaker 1: there is another terror attack in Israel that further inflames things.

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Speaker 1: Because let's say that Gaza gets resolved in some way

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Speaker 1: Remember this last attack happened on October seventh of twenty

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Speaker 1: that would put Biden in an incredibly difficult position as

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Speaker 1: to me, Michigan is maybe the crucible state.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: I know everybody wants to focus on Pennsylvania, and they

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Speaker 2: Because it's easy when you say.

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Speaker 1: Trump is an awful white man, Let's bring in all

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Speaker 1: And I would just say, unlike a lot of things,

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Speaker 1: something that sets off the alarm bells on a different

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Speaker 1: worth contemplating as we look at these Michigan election results.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, a lot of you out there

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Speaker 1: something that I think only hurts Biden as it pertains

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Speaker 2: Well, I think the chance of there being another mass

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Speaker 2: casualty attack of any kind of Israel is going to

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Speaker 2: be thankfully quite low my senses. The Israelis are doing

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Speaker 2: the problem. It turns into a bit of a mowing

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Speaker 3: In the main I caution you against conflating immigration and crime.

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Speaker 1: I I cannot imagine being the main I know Athens well,

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Speaker 4: Certainly, I have helped preserve the ideals so strongly Lee

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Speaker 4: So I stand before you today, mister President, and my

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Speaker 1: Okaywhere I think we can cut that off. Mitch McConnell

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Speaker 2: And he's the same age.

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Speaker 2: When you're talking about Mitch McConnell and his legacy, which

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Speaker 2: We're gonna have a lot of interesting discussions now, I

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Speaker 1: and say, why aren't they doing the same. So I

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Speaker 1: think on the margins, look, they're forty forty five percent

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Speaker 1: of people are going to show up and vote for

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden because of the team that he plays for,

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Speaker 1: regardless of whether he's able to do it. You mentioned

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Speaker 1: Buck something that I do think is important related to

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Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell, which is the judges. The older I get,

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Speaker 1: the more I recognize how fast four years is or

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Speaker 1: how fast eight years is. Lifetime appointment for many of

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Speaker 1: these judges is far more significant than anything that can

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Speaker 1: happen in any president's term to a large extent, because

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Speaker 1: there's a limit to how much you can accomplish in

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Speaker 1: eight years, I mean.

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Speaker 2: Or four years.

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Speaker 1: Certainly so, getting lifetime tenure for Supreme Court justices three

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Speaker 1: of them, as Trump did during his first term, that's

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Speaker 1: generational change. Even if you are a highly successful president.

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Speaker 1: The older you get, the faster eight years goes by.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you are starting to feel this a little

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Speaker 1: bit more Buck now that you're in your forties, and

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Speaker 1: I imagine some of you out there that are older

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Speaker 1: than us. It used to feel like the president was

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Speaker 1: in office to me forever. You know, when you're ten

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Speaker 1: or twelve, eight years might as well be, you know,

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Speaker 1: eighty years. But now I'm like, I turn around in

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Speaker 1: four years, it feels like a snip passed and almost

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Speaker 1: the snap of your fingers. And so you get this

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Speaker 1: sense of even if you have a president, that president's

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Speaker 1: power is limited. A judge for lifetime tenure is a

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Speaker 1: really big deal, and I do think Mitch McConnell thought

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Speaker 1: longer term in that respect.

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Speaker 2: Mitch McConnell, anybody out there want to weigh in on

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Speaker 2: the legacy there thereof we also have to return.

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Speaker 1: You have something on the legacy. No, I was just

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Speaker 1: gonna mention on Mitch mcconnald. The other thing we need

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Speaker 1: to think about Kentucky. You re elected Andy Basheer. Remember

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Speaker 1: if Mitch McConnell health wise decides to step down, Andy

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Speaker 1: Basheer has said he's going to a point, try to

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Speaker 1: appoint a Democrat. And I tried to make a big

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Speaker 1: deal out of this. We did on this show. In

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Speaker 1: the governor's race, Mitch McConnell is stepping down as majority leader.

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Speaker 1: That has to be somewhat health related. I'm sorry. If

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Speaker 1: he were to be unable to continue his term, You've

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Speaker 1: got a Democrat governor, and people out there could say, oh,

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Speaker 1: why does that matter?

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Speaker 2: You could end up in US.

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Speaker 1: It's not crazy at all to think that the Senate

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Speaker 1: could be fifty one forty nine. Joe Biden could find

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Speaker 1: his way back into office, McConnell could not be able

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Speaker 1: to serve, and Kentucky puts in a Democrat, and then

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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris is the tiebreaker again and they take back

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Speaker 1: control of the Senate.

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Speaker 2: We saw it as very possible. With the cult of RBG.

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Speaker 2: There was a cult of RBG. They were always The

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Speaker 2: you know, fit as a fiddle, and look at her

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Speaker 2: And it was weird too. She's like a little decrepit

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Speaker 2: old lady. When they were doing yes, like really you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't think she weighed one hundred pounds. I mean

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Speaker 2: she was just training and like clearly you know, didn't

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Speaker 2: have long left and they found out. They found out

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Speaker 2: when they weren't able to replace that Supreme Court seat

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Speaker 2: the way that they wanted to. So these things do

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Speaker 2: we also sub returned Clay to the We had more

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Speaker 2: We just want to break in with the breaking news

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Speaker 2: Mitch McConnell stepping down from leadership. So we'll get back

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Speaker 2: to that.

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Speaker 1: No doubt, very serious aspects there. But I want to

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Speaker 2: We just had the news that Mitch McConnell's saying at

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Speaker 2: the end of this year, he's gonna step down from

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Speaker 2: his Senate leadership position, and yeah, we will uh make

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Speaker 2: some sense of this, because, as Clay is pointing out,

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Speaker 2: I don't know how it is, but you know, basher

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Speaker 2: one in Kentucky a Democrat after being horrible on COVID

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Speaker 2: and being a Democrat and in the red state of Kentucky,

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Speaker 2: I don't know people like him. There enough people like

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Speaker 2: him there that he was able to win. We talked

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Speaker 2: about this, we had.

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Speaker 1: He's the only blue state governor buck In I think

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Speaker 1: in the entire South North Carolina's got a race coming up.

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Speaker 1: Every other SEC state North Carolina is not an SEC state,

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Speaker 1: but every other one has a red state governor.

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Speaker 2: And that's just it is what it is in Kentucky,

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Speaker 2: which means that if Mitch McConnell were to be unable

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Speaker 2: to do the duties of his office as a Senator,

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Speaker 2: Andy Basheer, the Democrat, would be in a position to

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Speaker 2: replace him. We've got a VIP email from Damon for example,

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Speaker 2: He writes, Mitch McConnell should turn over the Minority leadership

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Speaker 2: now and not next term. He should stay in office

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Speaker 2: until he can be replaced by a Republican What do

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Speaker 2: you make of that?

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Speaker 1: I don't disagree with turning it over now, although I

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Speaker 1: would argue this is there's not very much that's going

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Speaker 1: to happen in the House or the Senate between now

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Speaker 1: and November. Let's be honest. They're going to have a

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Speaker 1: long summer recess and then it's campaign season. But again,

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Speaker 1: and his term and staff correct me if I'm wrong,

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Speaker 1: I believe runs till twenty twenty six. It is very reasonable,

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Speaker 1: buck to believe that Republicans could have a fifty one

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Speaker 1: to forty nine majority in the Senate, and if Biden

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Speaker 1: were to get elected or whoever the Democrats put forward,

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Speaker 1: fifty to fifty is broken by a by the Vice president.

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Speaker 1: It's very reasonable to think. Unfortunately, I think we have audio.

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Speaker 1: This is Mitch McConnell freezing, and this is when I

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Speaker 1: started this discussion. I hate to have to bring it up,

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Speaker 1: but Andy Masheer is the Democrat governor of Kentucky, and

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Speaker 1: he has said that he will appoint he doesn't believe

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Speaker 1: that Kentucky Legislature can determine who he appoints, and that

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Speaker 1: he would replace a Republican like Mitch McConnell. With a Democrat,

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Speaker 1: it would end up in a huge court battle. It's

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Speaker 1: possible control of the Senate could turn over this and

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Speaker 1: this was Mitch McConnell freezing. Remember when this happened. Listen,

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Speaker 1: this is what of my thoughts about was running for

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Speaker 1: re elections in twenty four sex.

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Speaker 3: Sure did you hear the question senator running for reelection

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty six?

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm sorry you are learning.

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Speaker 4: You a minute, Okay.

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Speaker 2: Somebody else have a question? Please speak up? Okay, we totally.

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Speaker 2: He has a senior moment. He froze up. We all

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Speaker 2: know it, Clay, this is a problem with this generation

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Speaker 2: of political leadership. It is bipartisan. It is one of

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Speaker 2: those things where we have to be honest about it

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Speaker 2: because it's obvious and it's true. People don't want to

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Speaker 2: give up power who have been in the game for

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Speaker 2: a long time. You see this with you saw this

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Speaker 2: with Dianne Feinstein. To with her she had no idea

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Speaker 2: what was going on. She she didn't even know where

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Speaker 2: she was or who she was, and that that was

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Speaker 2: reckless and it was wrong to keep her in that role.

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Speaker 2: The people around her should have done the right thing.

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Speaker 2: They didn't. But even someone like Nancy Pelosi is very

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Speaker 2: slow to you know, let her bony grasp off of power.

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Speaker 2: You know, she just will not let it go and

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Speaker 2: you know, release her fingers from the controls. And this

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Speaker 2: it's true of a lot of Republicans, a lot of Democrats.

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Speaker 2: And I think that because people are living longer, this

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Speaker 2: is the first time we're seeing this. There really should

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Speaker 2: be a broader conversation about I mean, if you have

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Speaker 2: baseline age requirement to run for different offices, you should

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Speaker 2: also age out. There should be an age out or

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Speaker 2: the presidency. Donald Trump is pretty old. He's an anomaly

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Speaker 2: because he's got a lot of energy and vigor and

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Speaker 2: vitality for his age, no question about that. But he's

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Speaker 2: up there. Okay, it's you know, it was an issue

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Speaker 2: even with Reagan, people said, but with Joe Biden, we're

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Speaker 2: seeing it's it's just a calamity. I mean, this is

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Speaker 2: absolutely it's it's an outrage. It makes us a mockery.

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Speaker 2: And and Mitch McConnell is too old as well. And

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Speaker 2: I think that you want people who also are thinking

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Speaker 2: more about the future as something that they're going to

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Speaker 2: have to answer four and partake in. I'm just gonna

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Speaker 2: be honest about that. Yeah, you know, if you only

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Speaker 2: think you got a year or two left, you may

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Speaker 2: have a different view of the world than somebody who's

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Speaker 2: at least going to be around for another decade or

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Speaker 2: two and what their legacy will be, et cetera. I

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Speaker 2: think that they may be. You know, there are some

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Speaker 2: real challenges here.

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Speaker 1: If we have a lower age limit, which we do

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Speaker 1: to be president thirty five, I think you have to

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Speaker 1: be twenty six to get elected to the House, and

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Speaker 1: was it thirty to get elected to the Senate. I

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Speaker 1: think I'm correct in those. I know it's thirty five,

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Speaker 1: or I know it's thirty five for the for the presidency.

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Speaker 1: I would rather have an upper age limit for the

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Speaker 1: presidency than a lower age limit personally. Now, I understand

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Speaker 1: why they have the lower age limit. Historically they wanted

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Speaker 1: to try to keep dynastic power from just being passed

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Speaker 1: from an older leader to a younger leader. But if

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Speaker 1: you told me right now, Clay, you can only have

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Speaker 1: one under You have to be at least thirty five

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Speaker 1: to be president, or you can't be over sixty five

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Speaker 1: and be president. I would take the upper age limit.

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Speaker 1: Remember what is the age? You can't fly an airplane

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Speaker 1: after the age of sixty five. I think that's right right.

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Speaker 1: They have mandatory retirement ages for airplane pilots. I would

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Speaker 1: submit that if you can't fly an airplane, you shouldn't

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Speaker 1: be able to pilot the United States of America.

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Speaker 2: We'll be if you're flying a plane it's got one

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Speaker 2: hundred eighty people on.

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Speaker 1: Board and you have a stroke, Yeah, it's a big deal. Yes,

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Speaker 1: And if you got the three hundred and thirty million

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Speaker 1: person United States airplane that you're piloting, I would submit

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Speaker 1: that somebody like Joe Biden shouldn't be allowed to do that.

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Speaker 1: What would you think that you saw Biden getting a plane?

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