1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk. It's one 2 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: more thing. I'm It's going to be a short podcast 3 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: today unless something pops into my head. But I wanted 4 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: to get this on because I've had this experience myself. Katie, 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: what are we about to hear? 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 2: We are listening to a cattle rancher who is standing 7 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 2: at his truck and his entire herd of cattle are 8 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 2: all facing him, and he is addressing the crowd. 9 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 3: I have good news and I have bad news. Bad 10 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 3: news is I will not be able to get the 11 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 3: well going to give you water. It's not an electrical problem, 12 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 3: it's an issue with the motor. Okay. The good news 13 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 3: is Michael's coming and he'll bring you water. Okay, So 14 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 3: you're not gonna die, You'll just be thirsty for a 15 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 3: while long, Okay. I'm sorry. Thank you for your continued support. 16 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,279 Speaker 3: All Right, you have a great day. 17 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: Thank you for your continued support. 18 00:00:58,120 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 2: Have a great day. 19 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: So I don't even know if you know this about me, Katie, 20 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: that I used to work in feed lots for years. 21 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: I worked with cattle for years, tens and tens and 22 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 1: tens of thousands of cattle in pens and out and 23 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: fields and everything like that, and that is a thing 24 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: that cattle do. Sheep don't do it, Pigs don't do it, 25 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: Goats don't do it quite the same way. They will 26 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: butt you. But cattle, if you're like if you're out 27 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: in a field middle of nowhere by yourself and like 28 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: you're you're digging a post hole because you got to 29 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: replace a broken post on them like that, all the 30 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: cows will come over and stand there and just look 31 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: at you and just watch it. And they'll just stand 32 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: there right around you, like in a nice orderly circle 33 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: and watch you. And it's a common thing when you're 34 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: out there by yourself to address them, say hey, guys, how's. 35 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 2: It going, And they're just observing. 36 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: They're just observing, and it feels like you've got an audience. 37 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: And I know that other friends of mine because we'd 38 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: be out there working on us. Like then we'd start 39 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: talking about how you guys doing. Huh, that's my whole Like, look, 40 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: welcome to my ted talk. I want to talk to 41 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: you all today about why I like leve no, no, no, 42 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: hear me out. This is what I like about leather. 43 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: You know. We would start various conversations, make each other laughing. 44 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: I've said this a million times to family and friends. 45 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 2: I wish they didn't taste so good because they're so 46 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 2: stink and cute. 47 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: Man, ah they are. They're relatively nice too, Yeah they are. 48 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: They are unlikely to hurt you other than bulls. 49 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: My friend has a cow that has Down syndrome and 50 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 2: is blind in one eye, and its name is Jiggles, 51 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 2: and it's the sweetest cow ever, and it comes up 52 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 2: to you and just kind of what's its little head 53 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 2: sideways India and uh. 54 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: I love it. It made me want to be a 55 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 1: vegetarian and do Jiggles lives outside I assume. 56 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, amongst the other cattle. But she's just she's not 57 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 2: you know, she just kind of does her own thing. 58 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: I don't want to turn something nice into something not nice. 59 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: But when I worked in the feed lots, and this 60 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: was many decades ago, gladys. 61 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 2: You're going to go there, I can feel it. 62 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: The cattle were not treated that well. And I was 63 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: very young and so I just did what everybody else did. 64 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: But it was looking back on it is a little rough, 65 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: a little rough. 66 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 2: H. 67 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, the way cattle were sometimes treated. And I don't 68 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: even want to tell the stories or get into the specifics, 69 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: but it was grown up me would not be able 70 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: to participate or be around that, that behavior toward an 71 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: innocent animal. 72 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 2: And grown up me doesn't want to hear about it. 73 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 2: So I think we've come to an ice agreement. 74 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think that goes on anymore. 75 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 2: I would I wouldn't think so, right, I mean times 76 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 2: have changed so much. 77 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, even just for practical reasons, they stopped running them. 78 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: We used to run cattle everywhere, just because we're in 79 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: a hurry. Like you have giant area of pens, and 80 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: you've got a pen, maybe it's a quarter mile away, 81 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: and you got three hundred cattle you need to process. 82 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: That's what I spent most of my time doing processing cattle, 83 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: which is giving them all their shots and everything like that. 84 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: See A run them down these alleys and then you 85 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: run them into a pen, and then you feed them 86 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: through this process and they go through one at a 87 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: time where they go in this shoot and like I 88 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: would stand there and I'd have like ten different syringes. 89 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: Bam bam, bam, bam, bam bam. You give them all 90 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: their shots. You get a big clipper clip off their horns, 91 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: Blood squirts out and they walk off. It didn't seem 92 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: to hurt or anything, just but blood would scuirt out 93 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,559 Speaker 1: like a fountain, like a monia, like a money python fountain. 94 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: It would just word out barbaric is right. Then you 95 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: put them, you dip them, so they would go into 96 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: a cage, and then he would be submerged in all 97 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: these chemicals. 98 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 2: He's still going, Michael, do you notice that how we 99 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 2: kind of got disagreement that he wasn't going to go through. 100 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: I'm not doing the bad stuff. This is just the 101 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: normal this is this is okay, this is just the 102 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: normal stuff. But they would submerge them in this liquid 103 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 1: and all the chemicals and stuff like that to get 104 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: ticks and fleas and whatever else off of them, that 105 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: sort of stuff. They didn't dig that too, because they 106 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: thought they were drowning. So they would evacuate themselves when 107 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 1: they were submerged. And then you lift them back up, 108 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 1: you open the gate, and then they run off because 109 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 1: they're scared to death. But anyway, we would run them 110 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: everywhere and then they just you know, that's actually you know, 111 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: running a steer in the heat for a quarter mile 112 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: is causing it to lose weight. We don't want them 113 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 1: to lose weight. We want them to be heavy, right, 114 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: because you make more money. And then they started walking them. 115 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: Oh interesting, that was more out of it saving money 116 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: rather than trying to be nicer. Wow. But when we 117 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: ran them, that's how I got stampeded the one time. 118 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: I've told that story too many times. I won't tell 119 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: that story again. But uh yeah I did that for 120 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: a very long time. Hmmm, that didn't turn me off meat. 121 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 122 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 2: See, that's the thing is, it's like I've been sent 123 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 2: those like meet your Meat videos. You remember that one 124 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 2: that went around. I think Peta made that crap years ago, 125 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 2: and I saw I can't watch I cannot watch that stuff. 126 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 2: I actually just told them I was like, if if 127 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 2: a dog dies in a movie, I'm not watching it. 128 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 2: If like an animal is getting tortured, I'm not watching it. 129 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 2: But I still I can't resist a nice bone in Ribbi. 130 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: I ran. I ran over a steer with a tractor 131 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: one time. That was completely an accident, completely an accident 132 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: in my fault, and it was that was pretty horrific, 133 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: And I can. 134 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 2: See did you not see it? 135 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 1: I still did this day. Don't know how it happened. 136 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 1: I was I was turning a corner and I don't 137 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: know if it walked up in between or I just 138 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 1: did I was daydreaming and didn't see it or whatever, 139 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 1: but I ran it over. Oh boy. Yeah. And then 140 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: and then it was gruesome to watch. But then I 141 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: had to go tell my boss and he was quite 142 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 1: unhappy because I was several thousand dollars I just destroyed. 143 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: And then you get a chain you put on the 144 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: back of your pickup, and then your wrapp a chain 145 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: around a hoof and you drag it down the gravel. 146 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 2: Rookie, all right, you know this took a turn. It 147 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 2: started with the really sweet video of a guy giving 148 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 2: his cows a nice talk. You're not going to be 149 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 2: thirsty for long, don't worry, Thank you for your attention, 150 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 2: have a nice day. And now it has moved into 151 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 2: this Mormon horrible play, moved into this. 152 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: Horrible place that I don't like. I don't like it. 153 00:06:58,040 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 2: Michael backed me up. 154 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: Please, this is this. This will be my final comment. 155 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: So then you put them in a pile, because lots 156 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,799 Speaker 1: of cattle die because you hurt tens of thousands of cattle, 157 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 1: so they're dying regularly, so you have a pile. And 158 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: then they had something that they humorously called the used 159 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: cow truck that would come by once a week and 160 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: pick up the used cow truck and then you take 161 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: it to a rendering plant where they like boil it 162 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: down to make I don't know, folks chew leather or something. 163 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 2: I tried to stop him. 164 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: I did on. 165 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 2: National Cheeseburger Day. This is what you do. 166 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty sick. If I had remembered that, I 167 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: would have kept my mouth yet. I'm sorry you guys. 168 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: Ever seen Napoleon Dynamite. There is one scene where the 169 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: farmers yes, and the school bus goes by right at 170 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: that time. Yeah, it's a funny moment. Well, I guess 171 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: that's it.