1 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 1: This is the Jesse Kelly Show. It is the Jesse 2 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: Kelly Show. Final hour of the Jesse Kelly Show. Reminding 3 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: you that tomorrow is and ask doctor Jesse Friday. And 4 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: you need to get your questions emailed in right now 5 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: to Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. We have Carol 6 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: Roth coming up about a half hour from now. Trump 7 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: met with Jerome Pale. Apparently they threw food at each other. No, 8 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 1: they didn't actually do that, but they didn't get along. 9 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: And I want to know why. All that more coming 10 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: up in this final hour of the Jesse Kelly Show. 11 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: But first I'm gonna I'm gonna talk to you about 12 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: a fear that I have and it might be unfounded 13 00:00:52,760 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: and it might not be. But first, why you ever 14 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: heard the saying, at least when it comes to military matters, 15 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: or a saying similar to this, dead men have killed 16 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: a lot of people. You ever heard something like that before? Well, 17 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 1: I will tell you in combat, not to get too 18 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: gritty on you here, but in combat, if you're in 19 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: a firefight, let's say you're clearing a house or something 20 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: like that, and you've just shot somebody. They don't advertise 21 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: this on the army recruiting brochure. But if you were 22 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: in the home and you're moving by, and you're in 23 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: a hurry, and you've got to get upstairs and you're 24 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 1: clearing rooms, it's very, very common to put one in 25 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: his head on the way by. That's weird, isn't it? 26 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: Almost kind of dark? Don't mean to be dark. In 27 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: the Marine Corps, they can't necessarily teach you that, so 28 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: they try to teach us the eye thump technique, where 29 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: you go up and you basically take your finger and 30 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: you flick somebody in the eyeball. Why dead guys aren't 31 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: going to respond. Somebody who's playing dead is going to respond, 32 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: but you get the general concept of it. They don't 33 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: want somebody sitting up behind you and shooting you in 34 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: the back. People who are down and out and even 35 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: severely injured are often at their most dangerous, and you 36 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: have to make sure they're gone. And if you can't 37 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: make sure they're gone, or don't make sure they're gone, 38 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: they may end up hurting you badly. Right now, the 39 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: Democrat Party is an unbelievable embarrassment. They are bottoming out 40 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: in every possible way. Pardon upun pete Pootage Edge. They 41 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: are bottoming out in every possible way, and it looks 42 00:02:56,240 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: like from the outside looking in, these people will never 43 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: achieve power. Again, listen to this guy. He's a congressman. 44 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: This is a congressman. He's on Ciena. 45 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 2: Kamala Harris, for whatever you say about her, did connect 46 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 2: with people culturally. There was the Brett Summer. There were 47 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 2: all these people putting up the coconut memes. I think 48 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 2: the problem with the party is that we didn't have 49 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 2: a clear economic vision for working class Americans. 50 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris connected publicly because we had Brat Summer. Chris Corey, 51 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: what is Bratt Summer? I don't even know what that is? 52 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: What is that? Nobody? Chris said, nobody knows. Okay, but 53 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: I do this for a living. I don't even know 54 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: what Brett's what lost? Right, speaking of the rear Admiral, 55 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: here's Pete Buddhaje edge. Because they're out there trying to 56 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: win back men. So of course you bring out Pete. 57 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 3: Of course we should be talking about how Yeah, if 58 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 3: you know, Speaker Johnson got his way, it wouldn't be possible, 59 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 3: not just for gay people to get married, but for 60 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 3: straight people to get divorced alone first control, or how 61 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 3: he would want to regulate porn or whatever people most 62 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 3: people would have a problem with. 63 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: Headline Democrats tell party members to stop using left wing 64 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: lingo that makes them sound not normal. They're telling Democrats 65 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: to stop saying words like intersectionality. Oh, I know, just 66 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: stay with me. Here's another one. Democrats spending millions. We 67 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: talked about this before to learn how to speak to 68 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: American men and win back the working class. And one 69 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: of the people they've hired is a morbidly obeste feminist 70 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: for this effort. I'm not making that up. The Democrats 71 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: went out and hired a morbidly obese feminist to try 72 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 1: to win back men. And I know what you're saying, Jesse. 73 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: You appear to be proving everything but your point. You 74 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: appear to be proving the opposite of your point. This 75 00:04:55,360 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: party looks lost. Frankly, this party looks dead. There's infighting, 76 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: they can't drop the trans stuff. They're trying to police 77 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 1: their language. Rear Abro Pete appears to be the most 78 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: masculine member of the party. They look like they're gone forever. 79 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: And that is what makes me nervous because We're not 80 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 1: in a situation where you can give the entire Democrat 81 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: Party an I thumped, Nor should you do that. Keep 82 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: your hands to yourself. They are not dead, they are 83 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: not gone. They are down, they are out, they are 84 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: from the naked eye, they are mortally wounded, but they 85 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: are still alive. And so here's my fear. Before I 86 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: do a couple emails and we'll talk about Elon Musk 87 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: and all the other things and Democrat lies and things 88 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: like that, my fear is this, I am worried there 89 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 1: is going to be a Democrat who rises, a Democrat 90 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: who is extremely charismatic. It will have to be a man, 91 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 1: because the men who men have left the Democrat Party. 92 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: There aren't any men left in it. They're gone, they 93 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: lost them, So that a woman is not going to 94 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: be able to get men back into the parties. She's 95 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: just not. It doesn't matter who she is. I believe 96 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: there will be a man, or I'm worried there will 97 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: be a man. He will rise. He will drop all 98 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: of the cultural Marxist language, and he will speak like 99 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: you and speak like me. On the inside. He will 100 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: be just as much as an evil, dirty Communist as 101 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: Jasmine Crockett as AOC, but he will know to cover 102 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: it up completely, to lie about who he is, and 103 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 1: he will be effective about lying about who he is. 104 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: I'm worried that he will get up and give speeches 105 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: about being tough on the border and things like that. 106 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: And maybe you think, well, Jesse, that guy couldn't ever win. 107 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: Maybe you're right, maybe you're wrong. But you know what 108 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: people love in each party. Republicans love it and Democrats 109 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: love it. You know what they really really love winning? 110 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: They love winning. Ronald Reagan was universally despised by the 111 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: Republican establishment right up to the point Ronald Reagan won 112 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: the presidency, and then they decided he's the bee's knees. 113 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: To this day, everybody throws a Reagan dinner. Donald Trump 114 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: same thing, Democrats, same thing. They operate the exact same way. 115 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: If this guy who speaks like a normal person, who 116 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: talks about being tough on the border, who knows looks 117 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: acts like a man, but yet harbors all the anti 118 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: American hatred that runs through the veins of the Democrat Party, 119 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: I believe his winning. His winning will get the Democrat 120 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: Party behind him, and he will do unimaginable damage to 121 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: this country. And I don't have a name in case 122 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: you're sitting there waiting with baited breath for me to 123 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: give you a name. I don't know. I don't know 124 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: that that person is on the political scene yet. Maybe 125 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: he's not on the political scene at all. Maybe it'll 126 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: be a private sector guy. Remember we've had people say 127 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: it's gonna be Jamie Diamond or something like that. You know, 128 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: Morgan Stanley, I believe ceo Jamie Diamond. I don't know. 129 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that name either. I don't know, but 130 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: it is. It's precisely the the wounds, the mortal looking 131 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: wounds of the Democrat Party. That is the thing that 132 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: makes me so nervous, because parties don't stay down forever. 133 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: That's not how politics work. Political parties with money behind 134 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: them don't stay down forever. And to be honest, maybe 135 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:05,079 Speaker 1: I'm just being cynical. The more they flop and flail 136 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: and they're throwing millions at how to win back men, 137 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: and you got Pete boodha Jegs out there talking about 138 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: how what we need is more porn and the other 139 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: guy's talking about brat summer. The more lost and listless 140 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: they look, the more convinced I am there will be 141 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: a phoenix rising for the Democrats, because that's how politics works. 142 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: And I don't know. I'm not saying it'll be next year. 143 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's gonna be for twenty twenty eight. 144 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: I don't know how that would even be possible, but 145 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 1: it's gonna come. And that's a guy, whoever that guy is. Again, 146 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: it'll be a man. No woman will be able to 147 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: do it. Whoever that guy is, that's the one we 148 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: have to watch out for. Remember, Donald Trump is still 149 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: in office, and Donald Trump is still popular, not because 150 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: of you and not because of me, because normies like him. 151 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: Normies want mass deportations. Normies they want these things, and 152 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: that's a good thing, right. But Donald Trump, he is 153 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: popular because he appealed to the people who will go 154 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: whichever way the wind is blowing at some point, at 155 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:23,079 Speaker 1: some point, a Democrat is going to figure out how 156 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 1: to get that wind blow in his way. And that's 157 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: what makes me nervous. That's all I'm saying. Let's do 158 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: a couple emails and then I want to talk about 159 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: this lie. Maybe you heard about this. Some dude just 160 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: completely made up a school shooting what Let me talk 161 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: to you about what you can rely on. Carol Roth 162 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: is going to join us about ten minutes from now. 163 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: I bet you money as we talk about interest rates 164 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: in the unbelievably dangerous path we're on economically, bet you money. 165 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: Just call it a prediction. Obviously, I don't know yet. 166 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: I bet you She brings up precious metals at some 167 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 1: point in time. Why is it that China's buying up 168 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: all the gold they can find? Why are people still 169 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: speaking about this stuff this way? What is it the 170 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: year fifteen hundred, Well, precious medals last. That's why they 171 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: were still using it in the year fifteen hundred. 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We'll 182 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: be back Jesse Chilly. It is the Jesse Kelly Show 183 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 1: on a wonderful, wonderful Thursday. If he missed any part 184 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: of the show, you can download the whole thing on iHeart, 185 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: Spotify iTunes. Okay, now, let's just talk about this, the 186 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: GOP and the big beautiful bill and the Doge cuts 187 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 1: and whatnot. So Elon Musk is stepping away from politics. 188 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: Some of this is because he is forced to by law. 189 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: You can't if you ever been if you haven't been 190 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: approved by the Senate, you can't just go work inside 191 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: the government without end in the role he was in. 192 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: There's a cap on that. So a lot of that's 193 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:43,239 Speaker 1: that reason. But the truth is Elon Musk is frustrated 194 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: and angry. As I warned you months ago, he would 195 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: be Chris, did I not call that? Thank you very much. 196 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: Don't roll your eyes, Chris. Elon Musk, famous for buying 197 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: companies trimming all the fat, got involved in the government, 198 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: found all kinds of fat, was like a feminist rally 199 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: in there and started trying to cut. Then the GOPS 200 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: started producing bills, bills that didn't cut squat. Elon muss 201 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: is angry, you know. 202 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 4: I was like, we're disappointed to see the massive spending vote. Frankly, 203 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 4: which increases the bunch deps not doesn't decrease it, and 204 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 4: that reminds the work that the NOS team is doing. 205 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 3: I actually thought that when this big, beautiful bill came along. 206 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 2: I mean, like everything he's done on Dose gets wiped 207 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 2: out in the first year. 208 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 4: I think, I think a bill can be can be 209 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 4: can be big, or it can be beautiful. 210 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: Now a lot of people are involved in this process. Now, 211 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: Trump of course has been browbeating Congress to pass it. 212 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: Elon's upset with the corruption in it. You have some 213 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 1: of the more conservative members of Congress in the Senate saying, no, 214 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: I won't vote for it, it's too big. Others are 215 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 1: saying we have to do it now. And so there's 216 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: this big you know, Trump versus the hard right versus 217 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 1: all this other thing. My my point, the only point 218 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: I want to make on this, because we've already talked 219 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: about this a lot. My point I want to make 220 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: on this is is this, there are two kinds of people. 221 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: There are big picture people and there are detail people. 222 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: And you know what they have in common. Both of 223 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: them think the other one is ridiculous and holds them back. 224 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: Both of them do here in the studio. Me, big 225 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: picture person, I don't give a crap about details. I 226 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: don't want to know times, and I don't want to 227 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: know what computer login program. I don't want to know 228 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: anything a rating, what your ratings, and this and this city. 229 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: But they I don't even ask for that information. I 230 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: have no interest whatsoever. I want to sit down and 231 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: do the best show for you I can every single day. 232 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: Jewish producer Chris detail person. He wants to know. He 233 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: wants the minutia, he needs times, ratings, this, that he 234 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: wants all the friggin details. Chris rolls his eyes, rubs 235 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: his head at me that I don't give a crap 236 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: about it. Me, I rub my head and roll my 237 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: eyes at Chris that he cares at all. Both are necessary, 238 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: Both are necessary. My marriage works the exact same way. 239 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: I'm big picture ob hates that she's detail. I hate 240 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: that both are necessary when it comes to Trump and 241 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: the Congress and Elon and these types of people. I've 242 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: told you before. I get what Trump is doing, I 243 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: get how he thinks. Trump not a detailed guy, very 244 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: obviously not a detailed guy. Doesn't mean he's good, doesn't 245 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: mean he's bad, doesn't mean he's right, doesn't mean he's wrong, 246 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: doesn't mean he's smart, doesn't mean he's dumb. No, I 247 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: don't think he's dumb or anything like that. What it 248 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: means is he's a big picture guy. Hey, it's a 249 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: big bill. Whatever, throw my stuff in there and pass 250 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: the bill. I want the bill passed. You need that guy, 251 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: but you also need the detail guy. Well, hold on 252 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: on top of the stuff you want in there, mister president. 253 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: There's a bunch of corruption in there. There's a bunch 254 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: of garbage in there. You can't pass that. Detailed guy 255 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: looks at Trump and he says, why aren't you helping 256 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: me cut the fat and corruption out of the bill? 257 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: What's your problem? Trump looks at detailed guy and says, 258 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: why are you holding back my bill? I need my 259 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: bill passed. I need my trillion for the military. I've 260 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: both sides. This is almost It always works this way. 261 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: Both sides will clash, and both sides are necessary. If 262 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: there are couples husband and wife, girlfriend, boyfriend, couples listening 263 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: to me, you're laughing right now, because one of you 264 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: is the detailed person and one of you is the 265 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: big person, big picture person, and you fight about it, 266 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: don't you. Of course you do. That's life, Chris, You 267 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: and your wife different. God, Chris, to see the look 268 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: on his face. Has he nodded? Yes, Yes, they are. 269 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: That's how it works. Both things are at play here. Now. 270 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: As far as the GOP goes, there's a lot of 271 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: talk that the GOP Congress they're gonna all of a 272 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 1: sudden start taking these GoGet doge cuts in there. They're 273 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: gonna put him in a separate bill. They have to 274 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: beat a separate bill. We'll put him in a separate bill. 275 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:33,360 Speaker 1: We'll make it law. Why have they discovered a love 276 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: of country they didn't have before. No, they have a 277 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 1: love of money they've always had. Elon Musk was writing 278 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 1: big GOP checks. The checks stop coming now that Elon 279 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 1: Musk is frustrated with the GOP. This is a lesson 280 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: in leverage, enforce, get it and use it. Elon Musk 281 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: is using it well. I applaud the guy for it. 282 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: All Right, we are going to have a little talk 283 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: with Carol Roth. Speaking of money issues. We'll talk with 284 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: Carol in a moment. Then we're going to do one 285 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: final segment and I'll try to get to everything. Some 286 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: things I may even have to kick for tomorrow. I 287 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 1: still have to talk about when you show up at 288 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: the Freakin Airport. First, I have to talk to you 289 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 1: about pure talk speaking of money. I doubt, I doubt 290 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 1: you're about to hear that many flowery things about our 291 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: economic future. So now it's a good time to be 292 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: saving some money. Switching to Puretalk's the easiest way to 293 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 1: do that. But maybe saving money is not something you're 294 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: hot on. I get that. You know what the date is, right, 295 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 1: it's May twenty ninth, you know June is coming, you 296 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 1: know Proude month is coming. If you have a rise 297 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: in at and T and T Mobile and maybe you've 298 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: been thinking about this pure talk thing, Ah, you don't 299 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: want to go through the hassle. You don't want to. 300 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: Maybe you've talked yourself out of it a million times. 301 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: Totally fine. I want you to pay attention during Pride 302 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: Month to what your mobile company does and tell me 303 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 1: if you're happy that you're funding that, because that's your 304 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: money paying for the rainbow ads. I don't have to 305 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 1: get nervous about my company. Pure talk doesn't do that. 306 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: Switch to pure Talk. Do it now before June. Then 307 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,719 Speaker 1: you can sit back and smile all June. Pick up 308 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: your phone dial pound two five zero and say Jesse 309 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: Kelly pound two five zero, Say Jesse Kelly, We'll be back. True, 310 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: it's the Jesse Kelly Show. It is the Jesse Kelly 311 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: Show on a Thursday, and it is time for me 312 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 1: to put on my nerd hat. Chris always wears his, 313 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 1: but I have to put mine from on from time 314 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 1: to time because I don't understand this whole deal about 315 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:01,199 Speaker 1: inchestrates and Donald Trump meeting with your own pale and 316 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: everything else. But I bet Carole knows. Joining me now, 317 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: my friend Carol Roth. You obviously know Carol writes all 318 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: these wonderful books, including You Will Own Nothing, which is 319 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: looking more and more prophetic by the day. Okay, Carol, 320 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 1: why is Donald Trump meeting with Jerome pal at all? 321 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 1: And why are they arguing? 322 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 5: Well, you know, it used to be that presidents and 323 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 5: the head of the FED didn't meet at all. In fact, 324 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 5: I'm old enough that the Fed didn't even matter. But 325 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 5: in recent times it used to be that, you know, 326 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 5: they wanted to really keep the FED as maintaining this 327 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 5: sense of independence, which is hilarious because we know that 328 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 5: there are political beings, but you know, in recent years 329 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 5: that's kind of ramped up. They met Powell and Biden 330 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 5: met once. He met with Trump twice during his first term, 331 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 5: so it's not like entirely unusual, but I think that, 332 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 5: you know, it's almost a little bit out of a 333 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 5: mafia movie that Mafia done. Wanted to have a little 334 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 5: discussion with Powell about interest rates. The challenge is is 335 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 5: that we are in a period of something called fiscal dominance, 336 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 5: where fiscal policy is overtaking monetary policy, the stuff that 337 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 5: the FEDS in charge of, and basically whatever Powell does 338 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 5: kind of doesn't matter because as they went back and 339 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 5: started cutting interest rates, we saw long term yields actually 340 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 5: go up. So you know, Donald Trump may not be 341 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 5: happy with Powell, but at the end of the day, 342 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 5: he should be looking inward to fiscal policy. 343 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 1: Okay, now pause on all this stuff, Carol, because that 344 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: went right over my head. And that's difficult to do 345 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,959 Speaker 1: because I'm six foot eight. To explain the difference in 346 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: fiscal policy versus monetary policy, and why one is now 347 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: dominating the other. The floor is yours. 348 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 5: Yeah. So the fiscal policy is the policy that's controlled 349 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 5: by the government, things like you know, tax collection and spend. 350 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 5: And obviously that has put us in a bit of 351 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 5: a buying because you know, we've got something like thirty 352 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 5: seven trillion dollars in debts. We have deficits that are 353 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 5: at you as a percentage of GDP at a wartime level, 354 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 5: but we don't have a war or recession ongoing. And 355 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 5: you know, the interest that we're paying to service that 356 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 5: debt is higher than the amount that we're spending on 357 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 5: the defense of our country. So that is is fiscal policy, 358 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 5: and you know, it does what it does in terms 359 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:35,479 Speaker 5: of the economy. Monetary policy is supposed to come in 360 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 5: and that's what the Fed does in terms of setting 361 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 5: interest rates and sometimes playing around and some of the markets, 362 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 5: the bond markets and the like, and that's supposed to 363 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:52,360 Speaker 5: basically stabilize prices, which they've done a really fantastic job 364 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 5: as we know over the last four years. And it's 365 00:22:55,880 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 5: supposed to you know, help with things like unemployment. Basically 366 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 5: the tools that they have are just completely ineffectual because 367 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 5: of this crazy fiscal situation that was passed on to 368 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:13,719 Speaker 5: us by the Biden administration, and so anything that we're doing, 369 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 5: you know, it's sort of really lying on the fiscal side. 370 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 5: So if you think about what's happened, we have these 371 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 5: big deficits and those need to be financed in the 372 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 5: bond markets. They need to go and they need to 373 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 5: find debt in order to pay for those. But because 374 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 5: there's so much of that and frankly not a lot 375 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 5: of an appetite for people to lend money to the 376 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 5: US government, go figure that. You know, basically that has 377 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 5: driven up the yields and the cost of the financing 378 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 5: of the debt. But because we have so much, that 379 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 5: increases our interest expense, and when our interest expense goes up, 380 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 5: you know, it happens, well, that increases the deficits. And 381 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 5: what did I just tell you? The deficit means that 382 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 5: we need to finance more, which all things being equal, 383 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 5: will make it more expensive. And when making it more 384 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 5: expensive expensive increases the interest rates and we end up 385 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 5: in this vicious cycle until something breaks. And so really 386 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 5: the at the end of the day, where we are now, 387 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 5: that is dominating anything that the Fed could possibly do, 388 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 5: particularly for long term interest rates. Because the Fed directly 389 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 5: controls or or has more direct control over the short 390 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 5: term rates, the long term rates are really set in 391 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 5: the market. And so you know, Donald Trump should be 392 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 5: yelling at Congress more than j Powell. 393 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: Okay, so I got I'm asking you to speak for 394 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: someone else. Again, we're speaking with Carol Roth. As you 395 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: probably figured out by now, I'm asking you to speak 396 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 1: for someone else. So I realize I'm asking the impossible. 397 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: But why doesn't Donald Trump do that? I understand he 398 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 1: wants interest rates low. I get that. I get him 399 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: browbeating Jerome pal to lower those rates. But Donald Trump 400 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: is by no means a moron. He has to know 401 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: what you just said is true, what's going on? What's 402 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: the game I'm missing? 403 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 5: You know it's a question mark. He definitely his administration 404 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 5: has a tight rope to walk because at the same 405 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 5: time that we need to cut down on our spending 406 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 5: and reduce the deficits, we also came off of a 407 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 5: situation where those deficits were propping up the growth of 408 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 5: the country, So we have to enhance growth faster than 409 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 5: we cut spending. So we also don't increase the deficits. 410 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 5: So it's a very difficult path, and I think that 411 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 5: his team believes they have the right choreography in order 412 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:50,199 Speaker 5: to do this, and so perhaps they're just looking for 413 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 5: escapegoat to buy them time in case, you know, things 414 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 5: don't go according to plan or it's a little rocky 415 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 5: along that path. But it's a really tough path to climb. 416 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 5: So you know, I don't know that they're necessarily doing 417 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 5: the choreography and the rights order, but that I think 418 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 5: is what they're navigating. And I will, as I said, 419 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 5: I'll be really explicit that this is a difficult thing 420 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 5: to do, and so maybe maybe it's just scapegoating. 421 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 1: Carol. There's difficult and then there's impossible, right, I mean, 422 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: me getting a six pack is difficult, but probably not impossible. 423 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: Me making the NFL is impossible. Is it possible to 424 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,160 Speaker 1: navigate our way out of this? Can it be done 425 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 1: by anybody? 426 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 5: It can't? It can And frankly, there are a lot 427 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 5: of really crazy tools and tricks that the Treasury, frankly 428 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 5: could use, and you know, some of the other folks 429 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 5: that are associated, even the FED, if they could get 430 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 5: on board, could could do to buy us time and 431 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 5: to let us right the ship. They're two problems with 432 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 5: any crazy idea you could come up with, And these 433 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 5: are things like, you know, we could write up the 434 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 5: value of gold on our balance sheet, or you know, 435 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 5: Fanny and Freddie May or Fanny May and Freddie Mack, 436 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 5: could you know, let you tap the equity of your 437 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,360 Speaker 5: house to buy treasuries. I mean, there are all kinds 438 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 5: of weird things I could come up with and that 439 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 5: have been floated out there. The two problems is that 440 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 5: pretty much whatever it is they're going to do is 441 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 5: going to be inflationary, and we know how people feel 442 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 5: about that, but I don't think that's going to be 443 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 5: a choice. But the bigger issue is all it does, 444 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 5: Jesse is bias time, and if Congress doesn't get on 445 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 5: board both short term and then rained in long term, 446 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 5: it's not going to matter because we're just going to 447 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,679 Speaker 5: end up back in the situation. And that's really the 448 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 5: crux of all of this is we can buy time, 449 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 5: we can navigate, we can you do the hard work, 450 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 5: we can endure the pain of ANA, but there needs 451 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 5: to be something on the other side, and Congress has 452 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 5: not shown us. Even right now when we have a 453 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 5: GOP control of the Congress and a mandate, clear mandate 454 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 5: of what the American people want, that they have any 455 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 5: conviction to do the things that they need to do. 456 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 5: And so there somewhere between the is it possible you know? 457 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 5: Or is it impossible? 458 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 3: You know? 459 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 5: You tell me, is it is it possible to get 460 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 5: Congress to do what it is that they constitutionally should 461 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 5: be should do. I don't know if that's possible or impossible. 462 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: No, so misery for the sake of misery. It's completely pointless. 463 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: It's like being a vegetarian. She is Carol Roth, Carol, 464 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: thank you so much for giving us some more wisdom tonight. 465 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: Much appreciated. And by the way, I do think it's impossible, 466 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: But either way, that's just cynical. Jesse. All right, we 467 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: only have one more segment left. I want to talk 468 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: to you about something that is possible. Perfect meat. Perfect 469 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: meat is not a dream, it's a possibility. What makes 470 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: a great steak versus a bad one? A great chicken? Well, 471 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: let's talk chicken for a moment. What is it? It's 472 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: the temperature. When do you pull it off the grill? 473 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: When do you pull it out of the oven? When 474 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: do you pull it off the smoker too long, it's 475 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: dried out, it's garbage too short. You go to the 476 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: hospital and die. Chefman is here. Chef IQ, to be specific, 477 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: is here to make sure your meat is perfect every time. 478 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: It's called IQ sense. It comes in this black charging case. 479 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: All right. You can get them in ones, twos, threes. 480 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: I think they even sell them in fours. I use 481 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: the twos. You put it in your meat, you put 482 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: it in the oven, you put it on the grill. 483 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,959 Speaker 1: This wireless cooking thermometer makes it impossible to screw it up. 484 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: It's perfect every time because your phone tells you when 485 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: it's done. You leave the thermometer in there, and your 486 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: phone tells you when it's done. I use this thing 487 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: all the time, and everyone thinks I can cook. Now. 488 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: Go to chefiq dot com. Promo code Jesse gets you 489 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: fifteen percent off, so make sure you use the promo 490 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: code chefiq dot com promo code Jesse. We'll be back, 491 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly. It is the Jesse Kelly Show. Final segment 492 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: of The Jesse Kelly Show before we check out a 493 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: here until tomorrow, and of course tomorrow's ask Doctor Jesse Friday, 494 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: Ask me anything. All three hours. Jesse at jessekellyshow dot 495 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: com is where you email in your questions. They're already 496 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: stacking up and they're already good. It's going to be 497 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: a great day tomorrow. And another reminder that our Memorial 498 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: Day show from Monday is available. I mean, all of 499 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: our podcasts are available, but it's like the rest of them, 500 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: it's free. And if you are into honoring the fallen, 501 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: some battle history, war history, honoring some heroes by name. 502 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: There's not even any ads in it. You have to 503 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: download it. iHeart Spotify, iTunes. Wait a minute, there might 504 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 1: be ads in the podcast version, Chris and the ads 505 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: and that Chris said he thinks there are some. Okay, 506 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: I'm a big fat liar. Whatever, go download it anyway, 507 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: and remember don't focus don't focus on just the ads 508 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: when you listen to it. But if you are looking 509 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: for a new employee, focus on zip recruiter. That's what matters. 510 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: What Chris, that's the most important thing right now. If 511 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: you if your company, if you need somebody, maybe you 512 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: have a dirtball, Chris, Maybe you have somebody who's not contributing. 513 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,959 Speaker 1: You need to replace that person. Zip recruiter has what 514 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: you need. Maybe you've got maybe you're expanding. Zip recruiter 515 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: has what you need. That next prized employee is already 516 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: waiting there at ZipRecruiter. They're waiting for you today. Go 517 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 1: to ZipRecruiter dot com slash jesse and try it for free. 518 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: ZipRecruiter dot com slash jesse. Now a couple stories that 519 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: made me laugh. I'm sorry. The first one is the 520 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 1: headline from NBC News is New York City high school 521 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: student detained by Ice after a scheduled court appearance. Okay, 522 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: but then there's the first head the first sentence from 523 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 1: the article that says a twenty year old from Venezuela 524 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: became the first reported New York City public school student 525 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 1: to be detained. I love I love how the the 526 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: headline it's a high school student and then you dig 527 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: in and wait, he's twenty? Did the baseball team need 528 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: a new picture? You've gotta be kidding me with this. Gosh, 529 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: the media sucks and the other thing. Before I get 530 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: to maybe an email or two in the headlines, uproar 531 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: as United Airlines announces a new restriction on check in rules. Now, 532 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 1: far be it from me to check to defend United 533 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,719 Speaker 1: airlines ever for any reason. But they used to have 534 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: domestic check in rules that were thirty minutes out. If 535 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: you don't check in thirty minutes prior to the flight, 536 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: you don't get to get on the plane. Now they're 537 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: saying forty five minutes. Okay. People were mad. Okay, listen, 538 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: you get to the airport an hour before your flight, 539 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: not two hours, not fifteen minutes. It's you people, and 540 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: this is me. It's not like I try to play 541 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: it safe right. If it was up to AB, we'd 542 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: be at the airport five hours early. I don't do that. 543 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: I play it, I play it right. It's you people 544 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: who show up fifteen minutes before who screw it up 545 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 1: for everybody. You're the reason, you know, the person, the 546 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: person running through security, the person when you're in the 547 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 1: security line saying I'm sorry, can I get by? I'm 548 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,399 Speaker 1: about to miss my flat. Fact, you're the reason. What 549 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 1: Chris what? No, Chris said. Most of the time, those 550 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: are connections that are too close together. No, I'm not 551 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: talking about connections that's totally out of your hands. I'm 552 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: talking about when you get to the airport initially, when 553 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: you're going through security, if you are ever in a 554 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: rush going through security, if you don't have time to 555 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 1: wait in line, it's your fault. It's your fault. And 556 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 1: this is where people will pipe in and they'll say, no, 557 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: it's not my fault. You don't understand a flat I 558 00:34:55,160 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 1: had a flat tire. I had a wreck. Really I 559 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: plan for a flat tire. You don't. I check the 560 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,280 Speaker 1: traffic right before I leave, so I don't run into traffic. 561 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:13,839 Speaker 1: You don't prior proper planning prevents BEEP poor performance. As 562 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: we were taught several times in the Marine Corps. What 563 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 1: Chris Chris said, how early an hour? An hour's plenty. 564 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,319 Speaker 1: I get to the airport an hour early, no matter 565 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 1: what domestic internet, you get to the airport three hour. 566 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 1: Why what you get there three hours early? What are 567 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 1: you doing? You're planning for traffic in a flat tire, Chris. 568 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 1: Three hours early is not planning for traffic in a 569 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 1: flat tire. Three hours early is planning for the apocalypse, 570 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 1: in a hurricane, during an earthquake. That's ridiculous, overkill, I 571 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 1: get and you, of all people, you spend three hours 572 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: in the airport before your flight with those airport prices. 573 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: What what you can read you can eat and you're 574 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 1: never in a rush. Well, I would hope, so, buddy, 575 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 1: the airport should start charging you because you live there 576 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 1: apparently three hours before the flight. Gosh, that's ridiculous. El 577 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:12,720 Speaker 1: capitan de manos pecanos. I don't even know what that means, 578 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,400 Speaker 1: but it's true. I've heard you rant on it before. 579 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,879 Speaker 1: But the stuff crust pizza always suck. It never lives 580 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 1: up to what I want it to be. Why is that? 581 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 1: Why can nobody get it right? Says his name is Chris, Well, apparently, 582 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 1: asked doctor Jesse Friday is starting a little bit early. 583 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: Here's the problem with stuff crust pizza, and it's why 584 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 1: we all order it once a year. Everybody does, and 585 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: we're disappointed in it every time. Don't worry, You're not alone. 586 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 1: Everybody is. You know why. It looks good, But the 587 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 1: problem is you cannot cook the kind of cheese that 588 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 1: goes on top of the pizza the same temperature and 589 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: time that you cook the cheese inside of the crust 590 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,879 Speaker 1: on the pizza, because the bread is providing I think 591 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 1: I've discovered this, Chris. This is my own theory. The 592 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 1: bread is providing a layer of insulation to the crust 593 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 1: cheese that the on top of the pizza cheese doesn't 594 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 1: have to deal with. The on top of the pizza 595 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 1: cheese is exposed to all the heat. The bread stuff 596 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 1: has essentially a bulletproof vest. So you get a stuff 597 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 1: crust pizza. It might, I stress, This might be good 598 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,479 Speaker 1: for the first minute or so, then garbage. You can't 599 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 1: eat it anymore. What, Chris, that's a very good point, 600 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 1: Chris said, We've had forty years to fix this problem. 601 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 1: Why can't we Well, here's my solution. This is where 602 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 1: everybody's getting this wrong. In fact, you big pizza chains, 603 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 1: especially premier ones like Little Caesars, listen to me. This 604 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,799 Speaker 1: is what you need to do. You can have a 605 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:59,880 Speaker 1: stuffed crust pizza that is good. You need to draw 606 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:06,360 Speaker 1: any attempt at putting regular cheese in there and move 607 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 1: to the liquid kso the liquid cheese option. Chris. Oh, 608 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 1: you should see the look on his face. That's the 609 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 1: look Chris gets when he knows I nailed it. I 610 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 1: nailed it, didn't I he knows I did. 611 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 3: Oh. 612 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,360 Speaker 1: I thought about this. I told you I was up 613 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,720 Speaker 1: last night thinking I had a lot of heavy thoughts. 614 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 1: This heavy thought is we ran out of time before headlines. 615 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but we might do so tomorrow. Maybe not 616 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,839 Speaker 1: SaaS doctor Jesse Friday, I made no promises. You get 617 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 1: what you get. Don't throw a fit, that's all