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Speaker 1: You don't listening to Fox Sports Radio radio.

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Speaker 2: Ah, good morning, Good morning, Ey buddy, happy heavy Abby.

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Speaker 2: Uh Fox Saturday, it's a Fox Sports Saturday with the

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Speaker 2: fellas Jason Fitz Anthony Gargano hanging out with you from

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Speaker 2: the Fox Sports Radio studios. What I still can't believe

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Speaker 2: the Pacers wow. And then last night, the second overtime

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Speaker 2: in the Stanley Cup playoffs, this time won by Florida

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Speaker 2: Marshan in double overtime, puts the Panthers to even the series,

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Speaker 2: which has been one of the greatest two games of

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Speaker 2: Stanley Cup files ever. Uh the files are both Winter

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Speaker 2: Sports have not disappointed. And then a judge rules on

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Speaker 2: the new salary structure for college athletes. It's a busy,

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Speaker 2: busy time. Good morning, my good brother man.

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Speaker 3: You said the best couple of games. I mean, honestly,

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Speaker 3: I don't remember Stanley Cup final that's ever been more

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Speaker 3: riveting than what we've seen after two games, and it was.

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Speaker 2: I get it.

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Speaker 3: Like, I'm sitting in Connecticut, so there's there's more hockey

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Speaker 3: fans per capita in this part of the country. I

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Speaker 3: get that. But I was sitting out with some buddies

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Speaker 3: last night and people were mesmerized like that. The first

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Speaker 3: period of that game last night. Some of the goals

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Speaker 3: were generational, like they were the sort of highlight sport

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Speaker 3: Center right now was playing one of them. It's like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's insane.

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Speaker 2: D McDavid threw his legs the sat up dry title.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, he really is Jesus.

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Speaker 3: It's it's unreal. Like when you look at what mcday

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Speaker 3: it is done, and you know he's twenty eight, right,

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Speaker 3: and so his points per game is off, you know,

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Speaker 3: the Gretzky paces. But there's a reason that from the

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Speaker 3: day he was acquired, that from the day he came

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Speaker 3: into the NHL. People like to make that comparison because

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Speaker 3: he's just he's one of those special, rare, once in

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Speaker 3: a lifetime guys that you're watching play. And you know,

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Speaker 3: this Edmonton team, I thought last night they had so

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Speaker 3: much spark. I really thought they were gonna get him.

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Speaker 3: I thought Florida was just gonna have they were gonna

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Speaker 3: get hit one too many times. So to see Florida

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Speaker 3: be able to will through some of those amazing goals,

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Speaker 3: to watch Edmonton's goalie get landed on in a way

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Speaker 3: that looked awful, I mean there were so many moments

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Speaker 3: in this game that looked just it was like watching

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Speaker 3: a video game, like watching a Disney movie version of

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Speaker 3: an NHL Stanley.

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Speaker 2: Cup Final matchup.

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Speaker 3: And for Florida win that in double overtime, I just god,

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, this this thing had all

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Speaker 3: the drama you could ever want. This series, he has

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Speaker 3: all the drama you could ever want. Last year went seven.

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Speaker 3: I just this is much watch TV. We're gonna talk

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Speaker 3: about the fact that nobody watched Game one of the

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Speaker 3: NBA Finals, I'm sure, but I don't care if anybody

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Speaker 3: watches any of.

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Speaker 2: This at the Stanley Cup Final.

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Speaker 3: You can't take away the fact that it is. It's

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Speaker 3: some of the best hockey I've ever seen.

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Speaker 2: I dude, you nailed it. You absolutely nailed it. You

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Speaker 2: spot all baby, It's been uh, it's been awesome. They

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Speaker 2: really I have to tell you, I've really enjoyed the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this year's run in the NHL just I mentally,

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Speaker 2: but I mean when you get these two teams, because

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Speaker 2: they were both great in their own you know, they've

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Speaker 2: both been great, and this collision course, you know, the rematch,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you're down to talk because this is like

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Speaker 2: the great like heavyweight fights where they would have you know,

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Speaker 2: this is the rematch, and and it is. It's just everything, man,

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Speaker 2: it's goaltending has been awesome, you know, crazy like you

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Speaker 2: saw five calls in the first period, and then and

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Speaker 2: then things start to settle down, right, and then Florida

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Speaker 2: dominate again. They dominate the second period and it's four

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Speaker 2: to three, and then third period is white knuckle pull

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Speaker 2: you know, you know, the latest goal ever to force overtime.

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Speaker 2: Corey Perry, forty years old, scores to go into overtime

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Speaker 2: and then you take it all overay to double overtime.

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Speaker 2: That's ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: I love the way you said white knuckle in the

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Speaker 3: third because we just have to remember that Florida, even

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Speaker 3: though you know, I haven't been necessary the kind of

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Speaker 3: really rooting for Florida here, come on, but Florida has

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Speaker 3: been there so much, and these two teams have so

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Speaker 3: white knuckle is a really good way to describe it.

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Speaker 2: But it never felt the.

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Speaker 3: Third never felt like either side tightened up. It just

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Speaker 3: felt like both sides were being calculated and went to

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Speaker 2: And it just, man, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I kept watching this thinking the moment's never gonna be

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Speaker 3: too big for either of these teams, and that's refreshing

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Speaker 3: in a championship series. You're not sitting here saying, ah,

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Speaker 3: I don't know if this team can get it. Both

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Speaker 3: the overtime loser, Game two, you walk out of it

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Speaker 3: with the win. You're going back home with a one

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Speaker 3: to one split after surviving the Edmonton environment. Oh, I mean,

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Speaker 3: Florida's gotta fel pretty good right now. And if you're Edmonton,

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Speaker 3: you just realize it's gonna be a long dog fight.

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Speaker 3: Like I just I don't know. If you told me

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Speaker 2: It's just it just feels so even yeah, yeah, Like

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Speaker 2: there are times when you know, this is when you

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Speaker 2: know it's such an even great matchup, because there are

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Speaker 2: times when both teams look like they're dominating right in

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Speaker 2: feels like there's a flurry, like you all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: dominating for the stretch and it's wild, Like I don't

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Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever seen this, right, I don't

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Speaker 2: think I've I'm trying to think about, you know, these

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Speaker 2: you'll you'll find it. But nothing pops out like this,

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Speaker 2: I mean, because they're both so good, Like they're so deep, right,

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Speaker 2: they're just too heavy, right, this just too heavyweights. I

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Speaker 2: love it. Man, It's like I can't get enough of

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Speaker 3: Well, and frankly, we talked so much on this show

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Speaker 3: who your final is for? And it's for in so

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Speaker 3: many ways, it's for casuals that are just tuning in

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's the super Bowl. I want to watch.

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Speaker 3: What a great representation if you think about that that

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Speaker 3: It's just everybody was ready to kick everybody's ass. So

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Speaker 3: you had this chippiness to all of it. You had

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Speaker 2: That's coming, you had the NBA conversations is coming.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the fact that you had Halliburton making the

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Speaker 3: You needed India because all week it was, well, India

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Speaker 3: sell There wasn't a lot of selling the sex on this,

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Speaker 3: and then Haliburton hits a game winning shot with point

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Speaker 3: another instant classic to keep the conversation rolling about the

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Speaker 3: And the Stanley Cup Final is doing that with every

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that. I mean Game one, I mean

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Speaker 2: We'll dive into deeper kind of the ex's and those

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Speaker 2: I've enjoyed it the most. Like I'm a loser, all right,

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Speaker 2: I want to tell you if I'm a stove geek.

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Speaker 2: I got into this because I like sports, right, Like

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Speaker 2: I didn't want to be a showman I didn't want

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Speaker 2: to be on stage. I'm not funny, right, I'm not

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Speaker 2: I'm really an introvert who likes to write, right, And

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Speaker 2: I stumbled into, you know, sports media. I like sports.

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Speaker 2: I love sports. It's one of the things I truly

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Speaker 2: and I think these finals they're not about star power

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Speaker 2: their respective sports, are about the games themselves. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I love watching SGA play. He's a mid range guy

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Speaker 2: who's a dominant mid range player, who is such a

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Speaker 2: great ballplayer. I'm watching Indiana with their depth. I'm enjoying.

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Speaker 2: I enjoyed it. I loved Game one. I'm hoping Game

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Speaker 2: two tonight's the same way. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Look, I think Oklahoma City is the better team. That's

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Speaker 3: not a hot take. I never really bought the narrative

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Speaker 3: that this thing was just absolutely gonna be Look, I

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Speaker 3: think Oklahoma City wins the series, but it doesn't mean

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Speaker 3: my god. Like the whole reason I do what I

432
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 3: do is because of Richie Sambora. Like the number of

433
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 3: times I didn't want to play a show because I

434
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,919
Speaker 3: was exhausted, and I was like, yeah, there's some you know,

435
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 3: eleven year old kid out there like I was, and

436
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 3: I'll never be as cool as Richie, but you know,

437
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 3: And so that always stuck in my head. And that

438
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 3: was supposed to be a ten minute zoom interview, and

439
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 3: Richie like stayed on that zoom.

440
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:52,880
Speaker 2: With me for an hour and a half. We hung out.

441
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 2: It was the coolest thing.

442
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 3: We exchanged numbers and it's still one of the wildest things.

443
00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 2: In a mile.

444
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,399
Speaker 3: Every time I get a text from Richie Sam I

445
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 3: just stop and I'm like, I don't deserve this life.

446
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,159
Speaker 3: So that's that's what bad medicine made me think of

447
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:05,679
Speaker 3: this morning.

448
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:11,919
Speaker 2: No way, no way. That's awesome also work to me.

449
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,919
Speaker 3: Like I don't know about you, Anthony, but like I

450
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:17,639
Speaker 3: was always an other guy guy.

451
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 2: So like I.

452
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 3: I never liked John, I liked Richie, I never liked

453
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 3: Axel Rose.

454
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,919
Speaker 2: I like slash. I never really, this is sacrilegs.

455
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,919
Speaker 3: But like, because you know our A's like everybody loved Jordan.

456
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 3: Jordan's fine, but like I just kind of like Scottie Pippen.

457
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 3: I don't know why I like Scottie Pippen, Like is

458
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 3: a little kid going to UNLV games. I didn't Larry

459
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 3: Johnson was great, sure, but I like Stacy Augman Like

460
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 3: I don't know what it is about me, but like

461
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,439
Speaker 3: I like Robin better than Batman. It's a weird quirk.

462
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 3: And so you know Richie. Like the funny thing is

463
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 3: like now, if bon Jovi was playing ten minutes down

464
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 3: the road, I wouldn't pay to go see it because

465
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,439
Speaker 3: Richie's not there. I have no interest in it. But

466
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 3: if Richie Sambora was playing ten minutes down the house

467
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 3: from the house, yeah you could take my money.

468
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,400
Speaker 2: It's just take my house. I go see that thing,

469
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 2: just because he's what he said more that's cool. Uh,

470
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 2: I guess that would be I'm a case by case,

471
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 2: I'm Jordan's way over Peppin. I hate Robin, I would

472
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 2: go I would go sam Bora over bad Jovi? Uh?

473
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:25,120
Speaker 2: Who else? Who else?

474
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 3: Did you mention that You're so right to hate Robin,

475
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 3: Like there's nothing cool about Robin now there isn't like

476
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 3: and if they made a big like if if Christopher

477
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,439
Speaker 3: Nolan made a big Robin movie, ain't nobody going to

478
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 3: see that?

479
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 2: That would.

480
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:42,919
Speaker 3: I could have been like as a kid, I liked

481
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 3: Now I can fully admit the Batman is far cooler.

482
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great, trying to think.

483
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 3: Same with the wrestling thing too, Like I never liked

484
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,640
Speaker 3: Taul Cocan, Like I'm glad that we finally figured out

485
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,400
Speaker 3: that Haul Cogan sucked because like I didn't like Hull Coogan,

486
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 3: I liked it. I liked Macho Man like I was

487
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 3: in on Matcham I agree?

488
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I go, I go watch a man over Hault.

489
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 2: Yeah I agree with that. I agree, Yeah, definitely, Yeah,

490
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 2: I'm probably kind of similar. I'm you know, but it's

491
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 2: case by case. Like I love Jordan, though I love

492
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 2: Jordan not because everybody loved Jordan, but because I've just

493
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 2: when I he was the I was a I was

494
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 2: for twenty two twenty three, and I was a writer,

495
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 2: and I moved to Chicago and I was you know,

496
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 2: I covered both games and I just used to be

497
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 2: in awe watching him. I mean this is like ninety

498
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 2: three and middle of ninety two, and you know, watching Jordan,

499
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,160
Speaker 2: My god, I just being around them, I just thought

500
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 2: he was the coolest too, Like I mean, yeah, the

501
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 2: ultimate killer of all killers. I mean, you you want

502
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 2: to talk about a dude that just would will you

503
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 2: at all times. I just I just had that way

504
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 2: about him when you cover him. I don't know, I

505
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 2: was in awe of the guy. I mean I was young,

506
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 2: but I don't care. I was in all the guy.

507
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 2: The guy. The guy just had that factor. Man, that

508
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 2: in fact or that you know, I'll take anybody's heart

509
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,919
Speaker 2: like that. Confidence is like you wish you had that

510
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 2: you and whatever you did in life that you wish

511
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 2: you had that like that, knowing that I'm the greatest

512
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 2: and that's what he was.

513
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 3: I think, you know, contrary to popular belief, I'm not

514
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 3: a total idiot. So I do know obviously, like if

515
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 3: you're in Jordan of far better basketball player, but.

516
00:27:58,200 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 2: We all know that.

517
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 3: I think for me, it's it was always about, man,

518
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 3: this guy's getting all the flowers they deserve, But what

519
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 3: about the other guy. That's also a big part of

520
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 3: this that we forget because they're living in the shadows,

521
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,360
Speaker 3: and I didn't like the guys being stuck in the shadows.

522
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 3: I think that was always sort of part of the

523
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 3: the emphasis for me. But because clearly, like look when

524
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 3: I was, when I was a kid, I grew up

525
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 3: as avid a Lakers fan as I as I am

526
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 3: today a Raiders fan.

527
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 2: There's no doubt about it.

528
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 3: Like I was a two team man is a kid,

529
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 3: and I just lived, eat and breathed every ounce of

530
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 3: Lakers as a kid. So you know, but I still

531
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 3: had tremendous respect for Jordan because you knew, you knew

532
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 3: Jordan was that guy.

533
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 2: Right.

534
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 3: It's just I don't know, always felt like Scotti Pittman

535
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 3: got a little forgotten, and then it got to the

536
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 3: point where the narrative became so much that he's forgotten

537
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 3: that then his question of like is he now being

538
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 3: over you know what I mean, Like it's it's interesting.

539
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 3: But for me, you know, even in those years that

540
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 3: it was shaking Kobe, it was never shacking Kobe to me,

541
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 3: it was just Kobe Shaq, I don't care about that

542
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 3: was Kobe, you know, And so.

543
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,959
Speaker 2: I was Kobe. I love Kobe, So I was, you know,

544
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 2: and Kobe's Kobe's from Philly, and so you know, I

545
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 2: love Kobe and Kobe was I mean, he was every

546
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 2: bit of Mike two point zero, you know. I mean

547
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 2: that was uncanny watching his rise because he worshiped him.

548
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 2: It's like that. It's like Dylan Rayola with Mahomes. Yeah,

549
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 2: like that kid's gonna be good. I mean, Dylan Reol

550
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 2: is gonna be I know, he's an NFL player, Like

551
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 2: I know he will be a good NFL quarterback. I do.

552
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 2: It's one of those things. And watching that kid last year,

553
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 2: true freshman. And I hate when people criticize athletes for

554
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 2: emulating their heroes. I hate that. I hate that. Kobe

555
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 2: used to get a lot of guff from people because yeah,

556
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 2: he's a Jordan want to be look at that the tongue,

557
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 2: and well guess what it formed him. It helped make

558
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 2: him the player he was that he is. And Rayola,

559
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 2: you know, worships my homes and he does the same

560
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 2: workouts and the same arm angles, and you know, and

561
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 2: think he kind of you know, you watch him and

562
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 2: you could see the influence in him. I think that's beautiful.

563
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's also interesting to me with a player like

564
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 3: rolla like the expectations were so high a year ago,

565
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 3: and now I think it's maybe teeter totter too far

566
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 3: the opposite way.

567
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 2: You know.

568
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 3: It feels like he was such a conversation piece of

569
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 3: a year ago. And that's what we do now. We

570
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 3: want everybody to come in their freshman year and suddenly,

571
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 3: you know, when a bunch of games to go to

572
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 3: the college football playoff, I think it's a heavier lift

573
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 3: than that, you know, So I think he's being slept

574
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 3: on a little bit this year. And it's funny how

575
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 3: that's what we do. You know, we go too too

576
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 3: far one direction and then we overcorrect in the process.

577
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 3: It's really it's gonna be a big year for him

578
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 3: this year.

579
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 2: I yeah, I'm with you. Let me ask you a question,

580
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 2: because what my buddy tasty Cake dom is it loves

581
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 2: the show, big Fitzie fan says, because he loves Scotty too,

582
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 2: And he's Scotty pipp in top twenty all time. And

583
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 2: I go top twenty. What guy's name Scotty?

584
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 3: Oh man, that's that is?

585
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 2: That is? That is harsh? The top twenty guys name Scotty?

586
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 3: Mean, that is harsh.

587
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 2: He's not a top twenty player.

588
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no no. I So the question is, no,

589
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 3: he's not a top twenty player. I'm not disputing that

590
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 3: at all. Let me be very clear about that. I

591
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 3: think sometimes we use phrases like top ten or top

592
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 3: twenty without actually sitting there and thinks, right, going through

593
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 3: the list. Yeah, you start going through the list, it's amazing.

594
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 3: Like it's the same thing when everybody says, well, is

595
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 3: he a top ten quarterback? And it's like, yeah, you

596
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 3: think of him as a top ten quarterback? Does that

597
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 3: mean that I've got a a a PowerPoint ready where

598
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get you everyone. You know, he really comes

599
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 3: in lemon, right. Yeah, It's like suddenly he comes in

600
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 3: just a little bit low and all of a sudden,

601
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 3: there we go, you know.

602
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 2: Right, And when he says top twenty, I know he's

603
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 2: not thinking literally twenty. But my point is he's not

604
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 2: in that neighborhood. He's not in the neighborhood. He's not

605
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 2: close to that neighborhood. Like Scotty Scheffler is closer to

606
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 2: that neighborhood than Scottie Pippen.

607
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 3: Wow, Wow, that is a Scotty Pippen is not going

608
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 3: to be a fan of yours.

609
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 2: After hearing that, I do think sorry, I'm like you

610
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 2: love the game was a good listen. He was a

611
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 2: terrific good ballplayer.

612
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 3: He was great. He was great.

613
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 2: He was great, He's great. He wasn't an elite shooter

614
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 2: like there there are things that he didn't do like

615
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 2: you know, do you And if he doesn't play with

616
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan, he's he's not he's you know, was he

617
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 2: better than Clyde Drexler? I mean, Clyde Drexler did more

618
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 2: things on the floor, except maybe Scotty was a better

619
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 2: defensive player. Igo Drexler's an offensive player all day long.

620
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think Scotty is always going to be

621
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 3: one of the most difficult analysis we have because all

622
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 3: we want to do is figure out what he would

623
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 3: look like in some of those moments, you know, without

624
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 3: Pippen or without you know what I mean, without Jordan,

625
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 3: and that's impossible to do. It's just impossible to do.

626
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 3: So I don't know, if we're being honest, I don't

627
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 3: know what the fairest way to really evaluate the level

628
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 3: of greatness of Scottie Pippen will ever be. And you know,

629
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 3: we we play in these world are hypotheticals because that's

630
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 3: what we all do in the you know, this barbershop conversation.

631
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 3: But you just can't remove the Jordan equation from everything

632
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 3: you've seen, no matter what you try.

633
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 2: Now, of course, so I got a request and we're

634
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 2: gonna take a t think about it. I have my answer,

635
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 2: but Scottie Pippen or d Wade, all right, I promise

636
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 2: I'd ask you at because he wants to hear what

637
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 2: you have to say. Where the fellas just getting started. Really,

638
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 2: we've got a whole couple hours just peeking out right

639
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Radio, Fellas Fitzyn hang over. You

640
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,760
Speaker 2: be sure to check out the Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel.

641
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 2: There's a ton of great videos for one of our

642
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 2: many Fox Sports Radio shows. By the way, Rick James

643
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 2: was a concert I went to when I was like

644
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 2: fourteen years old with my cousin.

645
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 3: Amazing at the spectrum.

646
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 2: I don't know, I mean talking about smoking the air.

647
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Speaker 2: I had no idea with that was My mother was like, oh,

648
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 2: my cousins like three and a half years older than me.

649
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 2: So he was probably seventeen and I think I've just

650
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 2: turned fourteen and he was at the spectrum and uh,

651
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, sometime in the eighties and

652
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 2: my mother didn't have any idea. She's just like, well,

653
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 2: just make sure you're with Joseph. Make sure you stay

654
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 2: with Joseph, and like, you know, like I think it back,

655
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 2: my son is fifteen. I'm like, there's no way in

656
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 2: the world and let him go to Rick Jamescottson by himself.

657
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 2: Be sure to subscribe so you always have inside access

658
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 2: to wear Fox Sports Radio videos on YouTube, all right,

659
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 2: so just pick her to housecate before me. Who you got,

660
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 2: Scotty or d Wade? Uh, d Wade.

661
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 3: And I think as much as I was a big

662
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 3: Scotty fan, like, Scotty just wasn't asked to do the

663
00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 3: like when d Wade had to do the lyft by

664
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,720
Speaker 3: Himselfie did the lift by himself. And when you're talking

665
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 3: about being the number two, I mean, d Wade just

666
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 3: some of those moments.

667
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 2: You can't get out of your head.

668
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 3: So I think, you know, it's I'm not trying to

669
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 3: downplay Scottie Pippen, It just feels like the Wade deserves

670
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 3: that that spot thing. Yeah, of course again really hard

671
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 3: for Scotty. I mean, but yeah, it's Stee.

672
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 2: Way, it's Stee Wade. Yeah, I don't know Dom. Dom's

673
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 2: an amazing basketball guy, but he's got these weird Scottie

674
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 2: Pippen fetish or whatever you want to call it on

675
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 2: the brain. He's trying to tell me that he shut

676
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 2: down Barkley. He never shut down Barkley recovered the series

677
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 2: against Phoenix, No get out that game with That series

678
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 2: went six because of Barkley. Anyway, Like, we got Game

679
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 2: two and I don't know, dude, I don't know how

680
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 2: to look at it. That's the one thing. Because Game

681
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 2: one went when exactly where I thought it would go,

682
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 2: except for the last five minutes of the game.

683
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 3: So what do you do? Because it's really easy to

684
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 3: focus on that. I think you're right, that is the

685
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 3: right thing to focus on. How did Oklahoma City let

686
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 3: that happen?

687
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 2: Though?

688
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 3: Because we've seen this Indiana team do it so many times?

689
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 3: Is okay? Give it to me.

690
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 2: And by the way, it's tomorrow, I game two, that's right, tomorrow,

691
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 2: Game two to night. We're off. That's good. Actually, I

692
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 2: can have a movie night with my wife. I didn't

693
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 2: see her last night. I was downstairs. It was upstairs.

694
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 2: Okaysee is not a good half court team. We talked

695
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 2: about that, and they were able to really make it

696
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 2: a half court day. You know, you know how these

697
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:56,879
Speaker 2: possessions go, and they were kind of able to make

698
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 2: it a real half court game down the stretch, like

699
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 2: they they were able to put the pressure on when

700
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 2: they hit those threes. It was they were able to

701
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 2: cut it inside to like you remember they cut it

702
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:16,919
Speaker 2: to seven and too like four into one, and that

703
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 2: made the game organically half court where OKAC struggles. Now.

704
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 2: Jalen Williams missed two drives the rim and it opened three.

705
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 2: Like he has to. He's got to play better in

706
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 2: Game two for OKAC because I thought I thought he

707
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 2: had a couple of wide open looks. Is otherwise their

708
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 2: offense is just SGA trying to break down one on

709
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 2: one and off to help.

710
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you mentioned Williams. Homer Is also got

711
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 3: to shoot better and shoot more. I mean, I think

712
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 3: he had like eight or nine shots in that game

713
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 3: just as a non factor. It felt like okay See

714
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 3: had some It looks they just weren't finishing some of them.

715
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 2: So and.

716
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 3: So, yes, I think that's a big part of what

717
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 3: okac has to do. I also though don't know. I mean,

718
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 3: Indiana turned the ball over a lot in Game one.

719
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 3: Is that gonna be a theme for this series? Or

720
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 3: was that just a little bit of settling down, particularly

721
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Speaker 3: in the first half. We got to figure that out,

722
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 3: because if if Indiana manages those turnovers better, they're gonna

723
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 3: feel pretty good.

724
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 2: Well, they had what eight in the first half. I

725
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 2: was I was texting with Leglar at twenty halftime?

726
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 3: What was what was she feel? It was somewhere around there.

727
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 2: It was crazy. It was crazy. All right, we'll dive

728
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 2: into it. We'll X and O geek out Riders coming up.

729
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 2: Steelers Fellas on Fox.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

731
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Speaker 2: Well, good morning, good morning, good morning, Happy Saturday, Jason.

732
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 2: It's Anthony Gargana as we hang out on a fun

733
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Speaker 2: June Saturday, talking about all about the Finals. Breather tonight

734
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 2: right tomorrow night, NBA Monday Night, Game three, as that

735
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 2: series goes from Edmonton to Florida. Can't get further than

736
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 2: that Finals, from one end of the earth to the

737
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 2: other end of the earth. Lots to get to today.

738
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 2: The news yesterday, of course, dominated by Aaron Rodgers, so

739
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 2: how much does he love the own the news cycle?

740
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Speaker 3: Oh man, It's it's amazing. How many years in a

741
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 3: row are we going to make Aaron Rodgers the biggest story?

742
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 3: And this is it's very simple to me. If the

743
00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Steelers just got the version of Aaron Rodgers that

744
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 3: they hope, they got the version of December Aaron Rodgers,

745
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 3: the version of Aaron Rodgers that was much better at

746
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 3: the end of last season than he was early in

747
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,240
Speaker 3: last season. If that's the Aaron Rodgers that the Pittsburgh

748
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 3: Steelers have, they still have the third best quarterback in

749
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 3: their own division. I mean, if we're talking about right now,

750
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 3: not talking about a legacy, not talking about what you've accomplished,

751
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 3: talking about today, they've got an okay quarterback. I just this,

752
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,959
Speaker 3: to me is just so wildly overblown on the great

753
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 3: hope that people want to make it. I get that

754
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 3: they don't have any answer at quarterback, and I get

755
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 3: that Aaron Rodgers is better than nothing. But Aaron Rodgers

756
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 3: isn't better than Lamar. Aaron Rodgers isn't better today than

757
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow. It's just this is an okay quarterback that

758
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 3: last year won what five games with Davante and Garrett Wilson,

759
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 3: and we're making it sound like he's going to go

760
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 3: to Pittsburgh and suddenly win a super Bowl. I just

761
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 3: I think it's fine. I just don't think it's anything

762
00:41:59,400 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 3: more than five.

763
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 2: But because it's Aaron Rodgers, everybody wants to freak out

764
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 2: about it. So let's dissect. Let's forget. I agree with you,

765
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 2: but let's forget like all the noise for a second.

766
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 2: Is there any way that he can have the farv

767
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,720
Speaker 2: kind of renaissance that he did far did with the Jets,

768
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 2: with the Vikings? So remember, he goes to the Jets, failure,

769
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 2: everybody thinks he's done. He goes to Minnesota and they

770
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 2: have a run, man, And that was a real, real run.

771
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 2: He was, you know, really about to get back to

772
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 2: the super Bowl. And he throwze that crazy pick where

773
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 2: he didn't need to throw the football. But stay true

774
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 2: to himself, as you know, he's always well, he always

775
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,879
Speaker 2: played like Icaris go and flying too close to the sun.

776
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 2: Can Rogers make a run? I'm not saying to get

777
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 2: to the super Bowl. I agree with you. I don't

778
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,399
Speaker 2: think they're good enough. And but could he have a Renaissance.

779
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 2: Can you know we talked about the Bill he's tendon injury.

780
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 2: That's usually the second year. Like he's healed up now,

781
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 2: maybe he feels more comfortable. I mean, I don't know,

782
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 2: is that possible.

783
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,399
Speaker 3: I would trusted a heck of a lot more if

784
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 3: it wasn't Arthur Smith running the offense. I mean, Arthur

785
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 3: Smith running offenses is fine. It's you know, we gave

786
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 3: a lot of grief to the inability for the Falcons

787
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 3: to be able to do what most expected out of

788
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 3: that talent when he was the head coach there. But

789
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 3: if you just go back all the way to his

790
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 3: time with the Titans, is Arthur Smith the offensive coordinator?

791
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 3: Because I believe when you bring in a quarterback like

792
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers right now, then you've got to make sure

793
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 3: you're speaking his language. So that means that you know,

794
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 3: remembering that the success, whatever success he did have with

795
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:55,240
Speaker 3: the Jets, was in an offense that Aaron Rodgers essentially

796
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 3: hand picked, with an offensive coordinator that he absolutely hand

797
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 3: picked until he was fired, with a bunch of weapons

798
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 3: that he absolutely wanted. Brought in the amount of control

799
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 3: that Aaron Rodgers had in his surroundings and situation was very,

800
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 3: very real. Now he goes into Pittsburgh where that's not

801
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 3: necessarily Arthur Smith's path, that's not the same as his path,

802
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,760
Speaker 3: that's not the same language necessarily, and then you've got

803
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 3: a much different group of weapons. I just think that

804
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 3: there's a lot to me part of the success you

805
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 3: have when you have Brett Farv is you're just going

806
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 3: to let him go be Brett far Iv. He's just

807
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 3: gonna let him be a gunslinger and do what he

808
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 3: does and trust that he's going to be able to

809
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 3: get a live arm, to get the ball into two

810
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 3: tight windows, and he's going to make the most of it.

811
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Speaker 3: That's sort of what Brett did and it worked really

812
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 3: well in that season in Minnesota. Is that how the

813
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 3: Steelers are going to approach offense this year?

814
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 2: I don't know that I.

815
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 3: Trust Brett Favre and Arthur Smith together enough. Kevin Clark

816
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 3: had he just be ended a really nice article yesterday

817
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 3: about some of the familiarity that Aaron Rodgers does have

818
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 3: with the offensive concepts of Arthur Smith. But man, it's

819
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 3: the tandem that I just I look at and I'm

820
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 3: kind of met with. I think it would take so

821
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 3: much to break right for Aaron Rodgers to have that

822
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 3: kind of year.

823
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean listen, you know at that age,

824
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 2: I mean who knows, you know, anything could break down.

825
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 2: I mean he looked he did not look good Like

826
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 2: he looked like the weird thing about last year with

827
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 2: him is that his arm often lacks zip like stuff

828
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 2: that he was, you know, like he could get out

829
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Speaker 2: of the slumber. He probably made one of the greatest

830
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Speaker 2: greatest throws that I remember. It happened against the Cowboys

831
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 2: and the playoffs where it was right before halftime and

832
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 2: he's darting them up the field and he makes a

833
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 2: throw that's twenty yard out at the sidelines and he

834
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 2: he hadded like pressure in his face and the ball

835
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 2: was six inches off the ground right, perfect spot, like

836
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 2: he could put it through a window. Had zip catch

837
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 2: a ball. I mean, probably the greatest arm, like to me,

838
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 2: the best arm of him in Marino in their prime.

839
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Speaker 2: But I hear you, he didn't. He looked like he

840
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,439
Speaker 2: lost you know, it's fastball last year.

841
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 3: And also how much does the success of Tom Brady

842
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 3: at his age sort of impact the way we want

843
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 3: to look at Aaron Rodgers right now, Like Aaron Rodgers

844
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 3: is forty one. He's going to be forty two at

845
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 3: the end of the season. Forty two is just forty

846
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 3: two coming off of an achilles injury. All of these

847
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 3: things together, I just I struggle to find enough proof

848
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 3: of concept to make me comfortable in most people doing this,

849
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 3: Like just because Tom Brady did the impossible doesn't mean

850
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 3: that Aaron Rodgers can also do the impossible. And the

851
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 3: list of quarterbacks that have been that successful at the age.

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Speaker 2: Of forty one forty two, You're right, Brett fav.

853
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 3: Had the one year with Minnesota and I think he

854
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 3: was forty or forty one at the time, and obviously

855
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 3: Tom Brady had his success at forty two. That's kind

856
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 3: of about it. And so I don't think it's necessarily

857
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:31,479
Speaker 3: a slight to Aaron Rodgers to also acknowledge that there's

858
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 3: a lot on somebody his age to be able to

859
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 3: do it. Like that's just to me, that's just a

860
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 3: realistic analysis instead of looking at the body of work.

861
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 3: And that's the hardest thing we have to do when

862
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 3: we look at players in general that have had such greatness,

863
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,280
Speaker 3: is we have to stop looking at their overall body

864
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 3: of work and just start looking at the way they

865
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 3: play right now and right now. Last time I check,

866
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 3: Gerrett Wilson is still a very, very revered wide receiver

867
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 3: by most people. And DeVante Adams was considered to be

868
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 3: a home run signing for the Rams because he still

869
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 3: has so much left in his tank. So you're telling

870
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 3: me that Aaron Rodgers last year won five games on

871
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 3: a team that had those two weapons, while he was

872
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 3: throwing the football on a team that had better defense

873
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 3: than Pittsburgh has this year. So I just think that

874
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 3: we're still looking through the rose colored glasses of an

875
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 3: MVP Hall of Fame career that Aaron Rodgers has had,

876
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,760
Speaker 3: and two things can be true. All of that greatness

877
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 3: can still be there. And I just think we've got

878
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 3: a shell of Aaron Rodgers left.

879
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:39,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know it's funny he lost in it. Now,

880
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 2: he didn't have the epics super Bowl run, but Joe

881
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:50,280
Speaker 2: Flacco had a really nice run two years ago. Yeah,

882
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 2: I mean he had a nice run. I mean, you know,

883
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 2: probable a lot of numbers and threw the ball like

884
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 2: malloy point bringing him up is flat looked better than

885
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 2: Rogers looked last year. Like throwing the ball.

886
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:14,399
Speaker 3: I mean any wait, just that sentence Flacco looked better

887
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 3: than Aaron Rodgers did last year is fair and it's

888
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 3: jarring to hear all at the same time, right, Like,

889
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 3: it's jarring to wrap my head around that. And you're right,

890
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 3: and so now let's take it one other step here, Okay,

891
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 3: So what happens? Because I think Schefty's tweet was pretty

892
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,720
Speaker 3: meaningful when all this broke down, broke out, and Schefty

893
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 3: came out and said, I'm paraphrasing here.

894
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 2: I don't have the tweet in front of me.

895
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 3: But Schefty said, look that Mike Tomlin was a big

896
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 3: part of this, that he's a big part of why

897
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 3: it got done and a big part of why Aaron

898
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 3: Rodgers wants to go there, Like there was a lot

899
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 3: of ownership of Tomlin's name with it. So I ask

900
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 3: you what happens when, again, I don't believe that Mike

901
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 3: Tomlin in any way should be on the hot seat.

902
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,760
Speaker 3: I think most team would covet a coach like Mike Tomlin,

903
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,280
Speaker 3: and the concept that he should be fired is absolutely.

904
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 2: Asinine to me.

905
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 3: What is going to happen to a fan base though

906
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 3: that seems to be tired of nine and eight every

907
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 3: year when the hands quarterback isn't all that great and

908
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 3: they lose the context that there wasn't really a better option,

909
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 3: and this team wins eight or nine games again and

910
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 3: they're just running in place with the hand pick quarterback,

911
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 3: and the Steelers still don't have the quarterback of the future,

912
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 3: and they're not in a good position to draft for

913
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 3: like this. This is the never ending cycle. And I

914
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 3: just I have to wonder at what point everybody just

915
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 3: wants to revolt against Tomlin all because Aaron Rodgers is

916
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 3: washed and he's the best quarterback that they can figure

917
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 3: out today.

918
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think what would happen is it's not

919
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 2: that he would deserve to be fired, it would just

920
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 2: be times out. Like I still kind of pushed against it,

921
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,240
Speaker 2: but I got it at the time. But it's Amy

922
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:59,320
Speaker 2: Reid in Philadelphia, right, like where you're at a place

923
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,919
Speaker 2: for that long, you know. And he won a ton

924
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 2: of games. Now grant, he didn't won a Super Bowl

925
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 2: like Tomlin did, but he won a ton of games.

926
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 2: Was clearly a great coach. And they moved on. And

927
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 2: if town was the town wanted to move on, like

928
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 2: the town was against Andy in that sense I could

929
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 2: totally see the same thing happen at Pittsburgh where.

930
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 3: And then my immediate question is who's going to be

931
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 3: the lucky benefactor to be Kansas City? Like that's just

932
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 3: you know, like that's the right. It did end up

933
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,800
Speaker 3: working out for everybody, But like, man, how many how

934
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 3: many places are going to look around it? Like yet,

935
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,240
Speaker 3: we'll fire who we got. You want Tomlin's on the market,

936
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 3: We'll fire who we got.

937
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:48,280
Speaker 2: That'd be interesting because the one thing, the one difference

938
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 2: between Andy and Mike is Andy was an offensive guy, right,

939
00:51:55,880 --> 00:52:00,879
Speaker 2: so have offense will travel right like, so he he

940
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 2: was able to build what he did. Man, I saw

941
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 2: him what he did at Alex Smith he did, hear,

942
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 2: you know, on a lesser note with Doug Peterson and

943
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:16,320
Speaker 2: got them good and the whole thing they found this quarterback,

944
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 2: I mean, truthfully, it's the only thing that Tomlin has

945
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 2: struggled with his OC's and his quarterbacks since bet.

946
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 3: And I just want to remind everybody the win loss

947
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 3: total in Vegas didn't move, and that's probably because Vegas

948
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 3: presumed that Aaron Rodgers was going to be the quarterback anyway.

949
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 3: But that win loss total, that win projections eight and

950
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 3: a half. So like all of this, all of this talk,

951
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 3: and all of months of handring over, when is Aaron

952
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 3: Rodgers going to come in to win eight or nine

953
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 3: games like that? Is that really going to be enough?

954
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 3: I just I don't know. And the context here that

955
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 3: I think is in because I think it's very fair

956
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 3: to say, hey, there was no quarterback in the draft.

957
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,479
Speaker 3: There wasn't a really good answer. That's all very fair,

958
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 3: But it is also going to be very fair to

959
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 3: keep our eyes on how well I don't know Sam

960
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 3: Darnold plays, how well Gino Smith plays, there were quarterbacks

961
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 3: that were available to be moved, how well Justin Fields plays,

962
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 3: knowing full well that he didn't want to be there,

963
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 3: he didn't feel respected and didn't seem to love Arthur

964
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:29,240
Speaker 3: Smith's offense. How well does Russ play if he plays?

965
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 3: These are all going to be fair parts of the

966
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 3: context we have to have around the quarterback position, because

967
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 3: the concept we have today is that it was just Aaron.

968
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:38,959
Speaker 3: But it didn't have to be just Aaron.

969
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, but fairness, Ross is horrible. I mean,

970
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 2: he's done if he can't, no doubt, but you know,

971
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:52,280
Speaker 2: like he can't move if he can't move, he can't play,

972
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 2: and justin fields, I mean, that was not gonna work there.

973
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 2: I mean, you're.

974
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 3: Gonna win nine games, I mean like I mean, and

975
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 3: I'll buy both of the things you just sold. Well,

976
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 3: what if what if Gino turns around, like I know

977
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 3: my fandom turns around into this conversation for a lot

978
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 3: of people. I'll say this, I don't think the Raiders

979
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 3: are going to be a great team this year. If

980
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 3: Gino is lights out, then everybody else that didn't give

981
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 3: up a third round for him, There's there's questions there.

982
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 3: If Darnold is lights out for Seattle, then everybody that

983
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 3: chose not to get involved in that bidding war, there's

984
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 3: gonna be questions that have to be answered. And if

985
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 3: you're Pittsburgh you didn't do either of those things. That

986
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 3: has to be part of at least the context conversation.

987
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 3: All right, let's go around position.

988
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 2: Let's want to go through the schedule. Sure, let's see

989
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 2: how anyway would you say? The way that total is

990
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 2: eight and a half eight and a half. All right,

991
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 2: let's see, you gotta win ten right for it to

992
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 2: be successful, you gotta win ten ten fields?

993
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 3: Right, they're gonna have to win ten in a playoff

994
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:52,800
Speaker 3: game for people to get off Tomlins back.

995
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 2: At Jets opener. That's the crazy way. The NFL is

996
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 2: the best, like they this is going to happen, and

997
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 2: they got them going to the Jets in Week one.

998
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 2: It's a one o'clock game too, crazy.

999
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, that's that's a that's a win and

1000
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 3: that's a big The NFL networks gonna be on that,

1001
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 3: ESPN is going to be on that, Fox is gonna

1002
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 3: be like, everybody's gonna be talking about that all week.

1003
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 2: That's a win home Seattle opener. You're oh my god,

1004
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 2: come all over there.

1005
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 3: That's a win for the Steelers because the Seahawks are

1006
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 3: going all the way east. The Seahawks are a better

1007
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,800
Speaker 3: team than the Steelers, but going all the way east, early,

1008
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 3: early kickoff for West coast team. Yeah, that that's a

1009
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 3: that's a Steelers win.

1010
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 2: Uh at New England's Steelers win.

1011
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:47,240
Speaker 3: The Patriots are the most overhype team in the NFL

1012
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 3: this year.

1013
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:49,800
Speaker 2: They are overhauled. I agree.

1014
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 3: The Vegas has them as a favorite in that game

1015
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 3: and a total of eleven games. Vegas believes that the

1016
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 3: Patriots are gonna win double digit games.

1017
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 2: No, and then show down in Dublin. Steelers and Vikings

1018
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 2: go at it in Dublin, Vikings big, Okay, three and

1019
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 2: one at the bye?

1020
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 3: Who's the quarterback for the Browns at that point? The

1021
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 3: Browns are gonna start zero and six, So Viking, you know,

1022
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 3: like I thought you would go to the next game.

1023
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 3: No for the Vikings jj JJ quarterback.

1024
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, j it's gonna be just fine. And you got

1025
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 2: no qualms. You're like Minnesota, big yeah, Minnesota. Pick free

1026
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 2: one feels right to me though as a start, all right,

1027
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 2: Cleveland post buy that's when yep, four and one right Thursday,

1028
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 2: October sixteenth at Cincinnati taking the Bengals there, Yeah, yeah,

1029
00:56:55,640 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 2: I agree, all right for four and two Sunday, October

1030
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 2: twenty six, Sunday night football Rogers against the Packers in Pittsburgh.

1031
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 2: No way, Packers win.

1032
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 3: The Packers are football team.

1033
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's in Pittsburgh. That's got magic written all

1034
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 2: over Jordan Love.

1035
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 3: Everybody tells me I'm not high enough on Jordan Love,

1036
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:28,479
Speaker 3: and this is the one time we're not. Like Jordan

1037
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 3: Love has the time to stick it to Aaron Rodgers,

1038
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 3: Come on in Pittsburgh, I'm taking the Packers in that game.

1039
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 2: I like, I like Green Bay, I do. I like

1040
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 2: it more than you do. But I just think that's

1041
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 2: one of those that's one of those magic games, like

1042
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 2: they're they're just nothing. There's just moments in sports where yeah,

1043
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 2: like I assume me he's upright and can play a

1044
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 2: little bit now game. This is all predicated that he's

1045
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 2: not completely shot. Like I don't know what he's gonna

1046
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:09,479
Speaker 2: look like, but if he just is. If I if

1047
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 2: I look at last year and then add twenty five

1048
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 2: percent to his game, that's kind of what I'm doing extrapolated.

1049
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 2: I think A. I think he's shot. B.

1050
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 3: I think there's a very real chance that the Packers

1051
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:28,959
Speaker 3: win the North. How do you like that? Like, that's

1052
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 3: I'm coming around on the Packers. So I think Packers

1053
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 3: are clearly a batter football.

1054
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 2: I did too. I think they're a better team too,

1055
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 2: But that doesn't mean they're gonna win. I just think

1056
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 2: it's I mean, I just see a Sunday night game

1057
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh right before Halloween. I mean, those people are

1058
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 2: that's a great what a scene that'll be. People will

1059
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 2: be going nuts. All right, you go listen this is

1060
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 2: your exercise. You got a loss? So what do you

1061
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 2: got about? Four and three? Four and three? Yep, home Indianapolis,

1062
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 2: big win. Yeah, five and three. All right, let's uh,

1063
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 2: let's take a quick t we'll call back there.

1064
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 3: Five and three at the break. We're halfway through the season.

1065
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 2: They're five and three at the break. Yeah. There you

1066
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 2: go on pace for ten fellas hagging right here. Fox

1067
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:23,280
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1068
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Speaker 2: Black Yellow, Black and yellow, blacky yellow. I can't wait

1073
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 2: for football, dude, as great as the finals, and it's

1074
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 2: been awesome both sports. I can't wait for football. Cannot wait.

1075
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 2: All right, we'll go through a little exercise because the

1076
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 2: win total for the Steelers is a and a half.

1077
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 2: And I know it's stupid because Rogers can go down

1078
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 2: at any point. As fragile as he looked last year,

1079
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 2: he can go down at any point. So we're just

1080
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 2: kind of having some fun looking at the Seiler schedule

1081
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 2: and what it might look like. So when last we left,

1082
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 2: they were beating the Colts on November to second to

1083
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 2: go five and three, So you're ready to pick it up?

1084
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I'm feeling good, feeling good so far?

1085
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:32,919
Speaker 3: Five and three all right?

1086
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 2: At the Chargers Sunday night, November the twenty fair, uh

1087
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 2: November then nine, that's a loss, yeah, I mean at

1088
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 2: the charge a big football team, like I could see

1089
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 2: that game being at little a blowout. Rogers throws three picks, like,

1090
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 2: just like I think they beat Green Bay on the

1091
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 2: Sunday night. I think they come back and lay a

1092
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 2: huge egg at the Chargers, right, and Rogers plays horrible

1093
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 2: like he's in can that's it against the Packers and

1094
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 2: it comes way down and it is awful. Gets the

1095
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 2: Chargers third Street picks gets Harball, totally see him shut down. Anyway,

1096
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 2: We're at now five and four. Home Cincinnati does Burrow

1097
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 2: and the Bengals, they play him twice in five weeks.

1098
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 2: We got I'll give him.

1099
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 3: I'll give him, like Mike my gut says, the Bengals,

1100
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 3: but the chance is that they get swept.

1101
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 2: That's tough.

1102
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 3: So I'll give him a one win here. So you know,

1103
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 3: even though my gut says Cincinnati's a better team this year,

1104
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 3: I'll give him a split with the Steelers. So I

1105
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 3: gave the Steelers the loss the first time. I'll give

1106
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 3: the Steelers the win this time. Puts them to six

1107
01:01:57,640 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 3: and four.

1108
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 2: All right at Chicago.

1109
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 3: See if you had drawn Chicago early in the year,

1110
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 3: I take the Steelers here. But now you're talking about November.

1111
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 3: Late November, you're talking about Ben Johnson's had plenty of

1112
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 3: time to get his offense ready, to get everything rolling.

1113
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 3: I think there's a pretty immediate divodend there. I like

1114
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 3: Chicago and home against the Steelers.

1115
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 2: Okay, I could I could buy that, and then home

1116
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 2: against the Bills showdown four in the AFC. Yeah, that's

1117
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 2: a that's a slaughter.

1118
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 3: That's a Buffalo wins that agreed, Buffalo wins that going away.

1119
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and then the uh and then they go

1120
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 2: and this is this is the slide continues because this

1121
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 2: is a tough stretch at Chargers, Cincinnati, at home at Chicago,

1122
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 2: Buffalo at Baltimore.

1123
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that game is not even close, right, we

1124
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 3: can agree on that. Like, look, I think the Ravens

1125
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 3: have a chance to be even better than they were

1126
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 3: last year. They are clearly better all the way across

1127
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 3: the board than the Steelers. So yeah, I'm taking them.

1128
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take them big in this one.

1129
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 2: Agreed. So where are we at now, six and six

1130
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 2: or six and seven, because we were five and three,

1131
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:29,480
Speaker 2: So we're at six and seven, six and seven? Oh no,

1132
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 2: Miami and home Monday night, December the fifteenth.

1133
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 3: Now they get to win here. Okay, yeah, this is right.

1134
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 3: I agree, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I argue with it. The

1135
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 3: only one I argue with you would be Green Bay.

1136
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 3: I just think there's a magic there. But yeah, okay, mak,

1137
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 3: it's just a seven and seven, all right, son, seven

1138
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 3: and seven and.

1139
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 2: Then they gotta go at Detroit.

1140
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 3: Now, So right now, I'm going to take Detroit in

1141
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 3: this one.

1142
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 2: Big.

1143
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:08,440
Speaker 3: I do think Detroit is the toughest team in the

1144
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 3: NFL this year to predict. They lost so many coaches

1145
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 3: and I'm just usually not you know this I approved concept.

1146
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:17,959
Speaker 2: I say that all the time.

1147
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 3: You've just you've lost positional coaches, you've lost your coordinators.

1148
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 2: To me, yea more.

1149
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 3: So now you're you've lost two guys on the offensive

1150
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:31,919
Speaker 3: line over the course of the offseason. It's just there

1151
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:34,960
Speaker 3: are a lot of question like That's why I said

1152
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 3: earlier I think that the Packers are positioned to win

1153
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 3: the North. I I think the Lions.

1154
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 2: Could take a step back this year.

1155
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 3: There's still a very good football team. This game is.

1156
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 3: They're still better than the Steelers, so they win this game.

1157
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 2: To me.

1158
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 3: But man, I I don't love much about Like, I

1159
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 3: don't love making a lot of big predictions for the

1160
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:55,959
Speaker 3: Lions because I think.

1161
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 2: They're pretty unpredictable.

1162
01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 3: But they get to win here, which now puts the

1163
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 3: Steelers a seven and eight.

1164
01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you, honestly. Uh. The only thing

1165
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 2: with the Lions lose it rag Now. Man. Oh, that's tough.

1166
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 2: Their old line was the best of you know, like

1167
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 2: second best behind the Eagles in football, you know, great tackles.

1168
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 2: They're they're good. But rag Now was your you know,

1169
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 2: spirit animal. That's a big loss, dude, big law.

1170
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 3: Putting the rookie in there to replace him likely, yes, dude,

1171
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1172
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 2: Man, I think I think you're right. I think it's

1173
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 2: the Packers division right now. And then that's the kid.

1174
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 2: The kid. The kid's the wild card because if JJ

1175
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 2: is all that, he's got all the weapons in the world,

1176
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 2: and he's got a great coach. I'm I'm sort of

1177
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 2: in this spot where.

1178
01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 3: While all of the North get so much love, I

1179
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 3: think there's a pretty substantial question.

1180
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 2: For a lot of them.

1181
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 3: I think it's fair to say, as we just said,

1182
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 3: there's several questions for the lines that need to be answered.

1183
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 3: I think it's pretty fair and balanced to say JJ's

1184
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 3: probably gonna need a little time to become whoever JJ's

1185
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 3: gonna be, considering he didn't play anything last year, so

1186
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 3: that takes the vikings back a tick. I think while

1187
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 3: I think Ben Johnson is a home run higher for

1188
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 3: the Bears, I also I've never seen him be a

1189
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 3: head coach in the NFL. It's a totally different job

1190
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 3: than the coordinator.

1191
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 2: We've seen this.

1192
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 3: Over and over and over again, where the hot candidate

1193
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 3: takes a minute to adjust or isn't the head coach.

1194
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 2: That we think he's gonna be.

1195
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 3: So if you're sitting here and you're not a Bears fan,

1196
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 3: there's pretty easy yeah, But for the Bears. So, I

1197
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 3: think the entire North could take a little bit of

1198
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 3: a step back this year. So where we saw last

1199
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:55,440
Speaker 3: year it felt like, Man, this team's gonna have, this

1200
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 3: division's gonna have thirteen fourteen, win teams year in and

1201
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:01,439
Speaker 3: year out. Now, I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see

1202
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 3: a lot of that division come back a little bit

1203
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 3: to uh, to the to the sort of to the average.

1204
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, which division steps up? We gotta finish the exercise?

1205
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 2: We will? But which division steps up? I guess it's

1206
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 2: the East because the Eagles ain't going nowhere, buddy. And then, yeah,

1207
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 2: that's all.

1208
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:26,760
Speaker 3: I saw an ESPN graphic the other day as I

1209
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 3: was walking through the house. It's like it has the

1210
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:31,440
Speaker 3: Eagles window shut, Like how did you get that?

1211
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 2: How do we get there? Like?

1212
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:36,040
Speaker 3: How do we suddenly get to that?

1213
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:36,360
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1214
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:41,640
Speaker 3: But I also think I think Washington, Oh, I think

1215
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 3: Washington could take a little step back.

1216
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 2: The analytics on it show that.

1217
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 3: They got really lucky. I'm not sure I believe in

1218
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 3: the Giants, Like I don't know. I mean, if we're

1219
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 3: really looking for a division to step up in the NFC,

1220
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:56,959
Speaker 3: I don't know what it.

1221
01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 2: Is, because I think.

1222
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 3: There's some pretty serious question for San Francisco. So you know,

1223
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:04,120
Speaker 3: I don't know that I love the NFC West. I

1224
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 3: don't know.

1225
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 2: I justin the East in this sense, right, because Veagles

1226
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 2: are still laite the I think Washington, I get the

1227
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 2: regression thing.

1228
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 3: I still think they're gonna be very good.

1229
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. I love Daniels. Daniels. Daniels is great, Like he's not.

1230
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:32,559
Speaker 2: People go, oh c J. Stroud second year, that's that's

1231
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 2: not that kid. First of all, used to have had

1232
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:41,200
Speaker 2: major O line issues, which hurts CJ and off and

1233
01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:47,920
Speaker 2: on injuries to these receivers. Meanwhile, Jane Daniel's a different

1234
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 2: player man because he moves, he's so elegant, and he's

1235
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:56,559
Speaker 2: such a weapon and everything he does, I don't think

1236
01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 2: he takes it. I think he has another great year.

1237
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 2: I think he's just jet And I think they got better.

1238
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 3: They did get better. Do you think got better?

1239
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:07,600
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think your Cowboys.

1240
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't trust the Cowboys coaching at all this

1241
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 3: year because we have no idea. I think, like I

1242
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:17,600
Speaker 3: do believe Washington got better. I think getting better is

1243
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 3: only going to make them stay where they are, take

1244
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 3: a little step back because they were so lucky last year.

1245
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:26,840
Speaker 3: But better to be lucky than good. I would kill

1246
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:29,600
Speaker 3: to have a lucky season, you know, so better to

1247
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 3: be lucky than good. But I do think a little

1248
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:35,960
Speaker 3: step back for Washington's there. The Cowboys are too much

1249
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:39,719
Speaker 3: of an unknown for me, and they were last year.

1250
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean, I nobody hates some more than

1251
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:44,680
Speaker 2: I do.

1252
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 3: But what shy sucks like, I just I don't have

1253
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 3: I have no idea. I have no idea what to expect.

1254
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:54,519
Speaker 2: That's that's possible. But my only point is, like just

1255
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 2: talking about it fairly. I think that they're gonna be

1256
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 2: I think I like their draft, you know, I mean

1257
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:03,240
Speaker 2: I still think I don't understand what they're doing a

1258
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 2: running back. But other than that, I mean, you get

1259
01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:12,280
Speaker 2: the receiver, uh you know, I mean Prescott's back. The

1260
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 2: one thing Prescott will do is win regular season games.

1261
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 2: So they're gonna be better. I think they. I think

1262
01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:21,600
Speaker 2: they're better, and truthfully, you gotta wait to see what

1263
01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 2: the quarterback. But I don't know. I like the Giants.

1264
01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:27,360
Speaker 2: I like what the Giants have done. I think they've

1265
01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 2: drafted well. I think they're getting They're on the right track.

1266
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 2: They're obviously light years away from the playoffs, but I

1267
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:39,559
Speaker 2: think as a division, the NFC East is better.

1268
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with that.

1269
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 2: I agree with that for sure. All right, let's finish

1270
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 2: this and then we're gonna take quick to you. So

1271
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 2: at Cleveland, that's a win.

1272
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:55,120
Speaker 3: The Browns are gonna be one of the three worst

1273
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:55,919
Speaker 3: teams in football.

1274
01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 2: Sore. You go.

1275
01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:04,560
Speaker 3: And eight and the season game against the Ravens.

1276
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:06,439
Speaker 2: Against the Ravens where the Ravens won't need the game,

1277
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:12,280
Speaker 2: so they win nine and eight. Buddy, No, see, I

1278
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:13,240
Speaker 2: got the opposite.

1279
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 3: I don't know that the Ravens won't need the game

1280
01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:17,839
Speaker 3: for seeding, So I got the Ravens in a SUITEP

1281
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 3: eight and nine, first ever Timelin losing season.

1282
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:21,560
Speaker 2: Wow.

1283
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, Aaron Rodgers gets you eight and nine.

1284
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:28,520
Speaker 2: Wow. Man. When you go through that schedule.

1285
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:32,360
Speaker 3: It's gonna start hot. It's gonna start hot, y'all. And

1286
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:34,599
Speaker 3: not like that's and everybody's gonna say.

1287
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:34,840
Speaker 2: Look at this.

1288
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 3: They're four and one, and it's like, yep, who you playing?

1289
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:40,360
Speaker 3: This matters like it's just it just happens all the time.

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01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:42,320
Speaker 3: Where we're the second half of the season, it's like,

1291
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:44,639
Speaker 3: what's happening, Well, nothing, it's just now they're actually playing

1292
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:45,519
Speaker 3: the meat of the schedule.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean, look, you know those they are

1294
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:54,680
Speaker 2: no joke. That stretch is nasty. I mean starts with

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01:11:56,640 --> 01:12:01,920
Speaker 2: me act the Chargers home Cincinnati actually ago home Buffalo

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Speaker 2: at Baltimore. We did we talk about Miami.

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Speaker 3: We have Miami, right, Yeah, Well we had a big

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01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:13,000
Speaker 3: win for the Steelers over the Dolphins. I don't know

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01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:14,680
Speaker 3: what to do with the Dolphins this year either, Like

1300
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:17,160
Speaker 3: it's just it feels like that thing is just house

1301
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:18,360
Speaker 3: of cards ready to explode.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. The reason why I said that is cool. I

1303
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 2: felt the same way, like I look at the Dolphins

1304
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 2: and I go, I don't like them, and I don't

1305
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:28,680
Speaker 2: know what I where they're at right now, and I

1306
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 2: like the coach anyway, Uh, lots to do. Let's say

1307
01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:37,639
Speaker 2: quick t o come right back, fellas right here Fox

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1310
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Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio at you know, speaking of concerts, right ball,

1316
01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:18,240
Speaker 2: they are something to bawl yesterday, right, Brian Baldinger, and

1317
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 2: he's the greatest, so he says he's got a choice.

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01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:33,720
Speaker 2: He could do Metallica at where are they at? Metallica

1319
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:39,120
Speaker 2: was at somewhere in Florida yesterday, right, and do that?

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01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 2: I think in Tampa with the Buccaneers, right, a couple

1321
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:48,640
Speaker 2: of the Buccaneers guys, because he was at Buccaneers uh

1322
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:52,640
Speaker 2: ot As with Todd Balls the other day. So we

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01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:56,720
Speaker 2: could do Metallica with a couple of those dudes. Or

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Speaker 2: Shakira with his girlfriend in Miami.

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Speaker 3: Okay, A couple of things. Yeah. Number one, I as

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01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 3: a kid, I love Metallica. Who didn't, right? But I'll

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01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 3: be honest. I watched a Metallica documentary like so many

1328
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 3: people did, and once I watched like a historic rock

1329
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 3: band going through group therapy together to figure out how

1330
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 3: to communicate better. I just I don't know. I don't

1331
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:25,479
Speaker 3: want my I like my rock bands to be a

1332
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:27,640
Speaker 3: little edgier than that. And that's you know, somebody. That

1333
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:29,600
Speaker 3: therapy has been huge for me in my life. I

1334
01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:32,120
Speaker 3: love I love it. But the concept of just sitting

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01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 3: down as a band and going through group therapy to

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01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 3: help marriage communication essentially it's just wild to me. I

1337
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:39,559
Speaker 3: don't know, lost a little my Metallica edge, so I'll

1338
01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 3: admit my bias here. But when you go to a concert,

1339
01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:48,320
Speaker 3: you go to a spectacle, and the spectacle of Shakira is.

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01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 2: From what I've heard, I've been to it this.

1341
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:53,320
Speaker 3: Year, but the spectacle of Shakira is epic. It's the

1342
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:55,519
Speaker 3: sort of visual that you will never forget.

1343
01:14:56,000 --> 01:15:00,799
Speaker 2: So to me, i'd rather especially because of the visual

1344
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 2: You're you're you're a Shakira fan. Yeah, I love Shakira. Yeah,

1345
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 2: I love.

1346
01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:07,519
Speaker 3: This about you.

1347
01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:09,719
Speaker 2: I would pick Shakira.

1348
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:14,360
Speaker 3: And it's not even close because a Metallica is not as.

1349
01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:15,360
Speaker 2: Good as they used to be.

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01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:17,679
Speaker 3: That's I think that's a pretty fair you know, no,

1351
01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:21,759
Speaker 3: no disrespect to legends. I I just think you're probably

1352
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 3: gonna get a better visual performance, more bang for your

1353
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:27,759
Speaker 3: buck because you're in this massive, like oh my god, performance,

1354
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 3: it's going to stand out to you. And Shakira puts

1355
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 3: on such a great show you can't you can't just

1356
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:36,559
Speaker 3: watch it on YouTube or listen to music and get

1357
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 3: the same impact. If I was going to really soak

1358
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:41,880
Speaker 3: myself into Metallica for a night, I'd pull up some

1359
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:44,320
Speaker 3: of their old stuff. I would pull up an old

1360
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:46,799
Speaker 3: show on YouTube, I'd crank the volume in the house,

1361
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:49,360
Speaker 3: and I would just I'd let it just rumble my

1362
01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 3: couch that way, rather than go see them in stadium.

1363
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:54,800
Speaker 2: If I'm making choices between the two, Shaquira, I will

1364
01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:59,320
Speaker 2: tell you that now I I get a lot of

1365
01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:03,439
Speaker 2: foe all off of this. My buddy Joe Ben. So,

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01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:06,479
Speaker 2: Joe Benn and I we've seen Metallica probably four or

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01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:11,320
Speaker 2: five times together, and they just played linking financial Fields.

1368
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:18,439
Speaker 2: And you know, with my kids schedule, I'm pretty much

1369
01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:22,519
Speaker 2: apt on a lot of stuff. He is kids are older.

1370
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:27,479
Speaker 2: He went and he texted me a video and then

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01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:34,400
Speaker 2: Andrew's like, dude, they were awesome. And I was like, wow,

1372
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:38,680
Speaker 2: Joe Ben's a great music man, So you would you

1373
01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:41,639
Speaker 2: would love Joe Benn. He's a he's a he loves

1374
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:45,160
Speaker 2: me like he loves every kind of music, and he's

1375
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:49,320
Speaker 2: just he's just a fan of music, loves it, goes

1376
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:53,800
Speaker 2: the shows every week and he's like, dude, they were great.

1377
01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:58,479
Speaker 3: And that's incredible. Like that's what I want. I want

1378
01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:01,080
Speaker 3: people that love to put on a show, and Metallics

1379
01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 3: is certainly always has right like it's just they always

1380
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:07,519
Speaker 3: have put on a show. I usually I defer to

1381
01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:11,639
Speaker 3: some of those pop acts because there's just more interesting

1382
01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:14,640
Speaker 3: visual things going on, like in a stadium show. But

1383
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 3: you never know, like anybody that can rock it. Like

1384
01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:19,920
Speaker 3: last we talked last week, I was going to Post

1385
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 3: Malone and jelly Roll up unti Lette Stadium and I

1386
01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 3: had really high expectations for Posts and they were met.

1387
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:28,960
Speaker 3: That show is absolutely incredible if you're a Post Malone

1388
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:31,000
Speaker 3: fan at all, Like the stadium show he's putting on

1389
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 3: right now is insane. It's great, and he's such an

1390
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:37,960
Speaker 3: engaging performer in general that it was a great watch.

1391
01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:41,519
Speaker 3: But I was stunned. Like I knew jelly Roll was good.

1392
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:43,519
Speaker 3: I knew I liked his music. I've never seen him live.

1393
01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 3: Jelly Roll put on I think what might have been

1394
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 3: the most engaging, connective country music performance I've ever seen

1395
01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:54,040
Speaker 3: in my life. Like, so, you never know. When you

1396
01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:57,080
Speaker 3: get a great performer that just knows how to relate

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01:17:57,120 --> 01:18:00,200
Speaker 3: to a crowd and connect to a crowd that was

1398
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:02,760
Speaker 3: above and beyond anything, and that's something Metallica has always had.

1399
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:05,559
Speaker 3: Metallica knows how to connect to their audience. So i'lla

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01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:08,960
Speaker 3: I'll give them credit there. Shakira just stands out to

1401
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:12,360
Speaker 3: me as such a visual performance. But well in Miami,

1402
01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 3: if Metallica still.

1403
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:16,360
Speaker 2: Bring oh yeah, I mean if you're doing it in Miami. So,

1404
01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 2: by the way, that's a great sight. Now Brianna is

1405
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:23,880
Speaker 2: going to Shakira next week break.

1406
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:27,759
Speaker 5: That's so fine. I am so excited. Yes, I cannot,

1407
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:30,400
Speaker 5: It's amazing. Yes, So that's gonna be awesome. So I

1408
01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:31,600
Speaker 5: was like I would as soon as you said, I

1409
01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:33,520
Speaker 5: was like, Shakira one hundred percent, no.

1410
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:33,719
Speaker 2: No doubt.

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01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:40,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, I heard your gasp, she gasped, just in your ear,

1412
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:41,080
Speaker 5: not on the air.

1413
01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:46,280
Speaker 3: Another another factor though in Miami. Always think about who's

1414
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:48,200
Speaker 3: going to show up as a special guest that you'll

1415
01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 3: never see anywhere else. Like it's hard to get guests

1416
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:53,679
Speaker 3: worked into concerts. I don't imagine the Metallic is gonna

1417
01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:56,839
Speaker 3: have a big floor to special guest Shakira in Miami.

1418
01:18:57,120 --> 01:18:57,760
Speaker 2: You never know.

1419
01:18:57,920 --> 01:19:00,000
Speaker 3: Like that just feels like you might end up getting

1420
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:01,840
Speaker 3: three or four different people out on that stage that

1421
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:02,880
Speaker 3: will be unforgettable.

1422
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:05,519
Speaker 2: That's a good point. That's a good point.

1423
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:08,760
Speaker 5: Who you going with, Bray Shakira one hundred and twenty

1424
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:11,000
Speaker 5: thousand percent no doubt in my mind.

1425
01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:16,720
Speaker 2: Who you going with? Oh with mon seat? Where the

1426
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:22,240
Speaker 2: fellas Fox Sports Radio.

1427
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:25,240
Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

1428
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Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning, e buddy, well a happy happy

1429
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Speaker 2: Uh Fox Sports Saturday every week. Where the fellas Jason Fitz,

1430
01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:45,000
Speaker 2: Anthony Gargetti hanging with you guys from the Fox Sports

1431
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:50,040
Speaker 2: Radio studios. Uh, We're gonna get back into the playoffs,

1432
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:55,080
Speaker 2: which have been absolutely scintillating. Last night was one of

1433
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:58,559
Speaker 2: the great games you'll ever see. The first two games

1434
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:02,160
Speaker 2: of the NHL playoffs. The Stanley Cup Finals have been

1435
01:20:03,080 --> 01:20:08,800
Speaker 2: just amazing. I can't like the superlatives aren't enough to

1436
01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:12,760
Speaker 2: aptly say. I'm hoping that you guys watch it. I know,

1437
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:16,679
Speaker 2: you know we don't talk a ton of hockey. Both

1438
01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:19,880
Speaker 2: fifteen and I our hockey fans, so you know we

1439
01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:23,680
Speaker 2: love the sport. But hopefully you can dive in and

1440
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:27,400
Speaker 2: just see it because I know that we gather here

1441
01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:31,559
Speaker 2: to talk about sports every week, and you know you

1442
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:34,880
Speaker 2: call the Fox Sports Radio every day because you love

1443
01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:38,080
Speaker 2: it and you love competition. You thrive on competition. You

1444
01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:41,280
Speaker 2: love to watch it, you love to see greatness, and

1445
01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:47,840
Speaker 2: that's what that sport, it transcends it. That's what that

1446
01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:51,360
Speaker 2: series has been so far, ultimate theater.

1447
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:57,920
Speaker 3: It is so incredible to me too that if you

1448
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:03,919
Speaker 3: went back twenty years and you told hockey fans everywhere

1449
01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:08,439
Speaker 3: that we would reach a point where in Nashville for

1450
01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:13,800
Speaker 3: a period, Vegas now Florida, like the amount of domination

1451
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:19,080
Speaker 3: we've seen from non traditional markets, Like upstanding, every sport

1452
01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:23,479
Speaker 3: has a different baseline, every support has a different floor.

1453
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:28,559
Speaker 3: When you think about how incredible expansion has been for

1454
01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:31,479
Speaker 3: the NHL over the course of the last thirty years,

1455
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:35,280
Speaker 3: and just the fact that again, like nobody from Canada

1456
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:38,599
Speaker 3: has won a Cup since what ninety three? And I

1457
01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:40,479
Speaker 3: was talking to a buddy last night as we were

1458
01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:43,840
Speaker 3: watching the game, saying, imagine if we reached today where

1459
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:46,720
Speaker 3: we woke up one day and we said, man, no

1460
01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:51,840
Speaker 3: American team has won a super Bowl in thirty five years, right,

1461
01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:54,680
Speaker 3: Like that's insane to think about for a sport that

1462
01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:58,800
Speaker 3: for generations was dominated by Canada. And to think all

1463
01:21:58,800 --> 01:22:01,000
Speaker 3: the way back to when I was a kid and

1464
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:03,200
Speaker 3: Wayne Gretzky was traded to the Kings. I was living

1465
01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:06,240
Speaker 3: in Vegas as little kid, traded to the Kings, Kings

1466
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:08,400
Speaker 3: changed their colors to silver and black, like it was

1467
01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:11,160
Speaker 3: this big transcendent moment. Everybody was saying, this is so

1468
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:15,200
Speaker 3: incredible for the growth of the sport in America. To

1469
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:18,439
Speaker 3: go from that moment to where we are now, where

1470
01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:22,639
Speaker 3: we're getting Florida, I'll say that again, Florida versus Edmonton

1471
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:26,200
Speaker 3: for the second straight year, and we are at a

1472
01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:28,519
Speaker 3: spot where you almost take for granted that Florida has

1473
01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:31,360
Speaker 3: been in so many key positions that even in a

1474
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:35,320
Speaker 3: game that they allowed the game time goal with whatever

1475
01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:39,160
Speaker 3: eighteen seconds left right and then fought through double overtime

1476
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:41,600
Speaker 3: to get the win, like this is such a resilient

1477
01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:47,160
Speaker 3: championship DNA franchise. At this point in the NHL, it's

1478
01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:50,720
Speaker 3: wild just to think about how much the sport, for

1479
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:54,080
Speaker 3: all the conversation about you know, a hockey guy, and

1480
01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:57,240
Speaker 3: doesn't get as much love for where hockey is compared

1481
01:22:57,240 --> 01:22:58,920
Speaker 3: to where it has been and the growth of the

1482
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 3: sport in that sense, I just I think sometimes we

1483
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:05,840
Speaker 3: need to press pause on our narratives and acknowledge how

1484
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:10,240
Speaker 3: well expansion has treated this sport overall and how special

1485
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:10,559
Speaker 3: it is.

1486
01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:11,639
Speaker 2: Like this series we're.

1487
01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:15,200
Speaker 3: Getting right now is Ooh, unbelievable. And I don't think

1488
01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:16,960
Speaker 3: hockey's ever been better than it is today.

1489
01:23:17,320 --> 01:23:21,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it. I love it. And the series

1490
01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:26,599
Speaker 2: has it all because you're great teams and the whole thing,

1491
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:29,960
Speaker 2: but you also have the elite of the elite. And

1492
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:34,360
Speaker 2: when you figure McDavid, I mean he does things that

1493
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:42,519
Speaker 2: he looks like you're watching NHL twenty twenty five. But

1494
01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:45,360
Speaker 2: like my son Masimo and I we go at it

1495
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:49,320
Speaker 2: all the time in NHL twenty five. We have these battles,

1496
01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:54,600
Speaker 2: emic battles, and McDavid is fastin anybody right, Like you

1497
01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:59,240
Speaker 2: could see like he's ninety nine for a reason and

1498
01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:04,120
Speaker 2: feels like that in real time. Like when you watch him,

1499
01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:09,040
Speaker 2: he's just faster than everybody else. He's more spectacular than

1500
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:13,960
Speaker 2: anybody else. The assist he makes yesterday to dry cdle

1501
01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:18,280
Speaker 2: early that game was was freaking unreal.

1502
01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:25,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, And the vision, the placement, all of those things.

1503
01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:29,120
Speaker 3: Like we were watching the first period last night, we

1504
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:32,280
Speaker 3: were watching a matchup between two teams where there were

1505
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:34,519
Speaker 3: a lot of goals and it wasn't because there was

1506
01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:37,320
Speaker 3: bad goaltending. And that's that's when you know you're watching

1507
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:40,840
Speaker 3: something special. Is when you're seeing, you know, combined whatever,

1508
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:43,040
Speaker 3: it was, five goals in the first period and they

1509
01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 3: were just amazing shot after amazing shot. Just it's just

1510
01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:50,479
Speaker 3: it's just absolutely.

1511
01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:56,599
Speaker 2: Incredible for that. Yeah, it really is McDavid. I mean

1512
01:24:57,080 --> 01:25:02,400
Speaker 2: he's pushing Marryot for two. Yeah, I mean, he is amazing,

1513
01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:04,360
Speaker 2: but he is and.

1514
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:05,280
Speaker 3: He's only twenty eight.

1515
01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:06,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1516
01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:09,200
Speaker 3: That's the other part of depending on you. There's so

1517
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:12,160
Speaker 3: many factors with health and all of these six but

1518
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:18,680
Speaker 3: especially if if McDavid wins a Cup for Edmonton, what

1519
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 3: that does for just the way he will be seeing

1520
01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:26,160
Speaker 3: the importance he has to the game, all of these things.

1521
01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:30,360
Speaker 3: Just that's real. That's real. And you're talking about something.

1522
01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:35,800
Speaker 2: Direct line from Gretzky to McDavid. I mean, I looked

1523
01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:36,559
Speaker 2: it up last night.

1524
01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:39,439
Speaker 3: It's again it's early in his career, but you know,

1525
01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:42,200
Speaker 3: Gretzky averaged I think it was about one point nine

1526
01:25:42,200 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 3: points per game at this point. McDavid's averaging about one

1527
01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:47,240
Speaker 3: point seven points per game.

1528
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:48,720
Speaker 2: It's not that far off, you know.

1529
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:51,720
Speaker 3: And then you start thinking about impact and you start going, look,

1530
01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:54,800
Speaker 3: there's for for our generation, it's impossible to think that

1531
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:58,880
Speaker 3: there's ever going to be another Gretzky, but for his generation,

1532
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:02,080
Speaker 3: he has the opportunity to be that level of impact,

1533
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:05,960
Speaker 3: and that's that's really special for somebody that just can

1534
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:07,400
Speaker 3: beat you a million different ways.

1535
01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:11,679
Speaker 2: It was funny because watching Gretzki on the broadcast these

1536
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:14,439
Speaker 2: I love the TNT broadcast. I think they do a

1537
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:19,000
Speaker 2: great job. I love, I love. You know, Brian Bouche

1538
01:26:19,160 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 2: is a good friend of mine. He's uh, he's terrific.

1539
01:26:23,439 --> 01:26:30,920
Speaker 2: He's from Philadelphia, and then that studio shows awesome. And

1540
01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:36,120
Speaker 2: watching Gretzky's like just listen to him, you know, you

1541
01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:39,240
Speaker 2: go back and it's a shame for younger people because

1542
01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:44,040
Speaker 2: his records are records that are just never be broken

1543
01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:48,120
Speaker 2: type of records like Babe Ruth, Like, I guess you

1544
01:26:48,240 --> 01:26:52,840
Speaker 2: want to talk about like just sick numbers, like we

1545
01:26:52,920 --> 01:26:57,040
Speaker 2: talked about Ovechkin and the fact that ovet Skin overtook

1546
01:26:57,080 --> 01:27:02,640
Speaker 2: him any goals. Now go look at it set you

1547
01:27:02,680 --> 01:27:06,040
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Well, it's it's great Leovetsk who

1548
01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:07,880
Speaker 2: have to play for love of twenty years to catch him.

1549
01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:13,240
Speaker 3: It insists that's it's wild and it's crazy, and it

1550
01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:17,439
Speaker 3: is more attainable to get an understanding of greatness of

1551
01:27:17,479 --> 01:27:21,760
Speaker 3: players than ever, simply because YouTube allows it. So the

1552
01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:25,920
Speaker 3: hope has got to be that, you know, the rising

1553
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:27,920
Speaker 3: fans that are learning the sport will go back and

1554
01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:30,120
Speaker 3: just watch. When you see Gretzky on TV, you'll go

1555
01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:31,880
Speaker 3: back and you watch the old clips and you see

1556
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:35,000
Speaker 3: some of what he had and how it stands up still.

1557
01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:37,559
Speaker 3: You know, that's got to be the hope, because it

1558
01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:40,880
Speaker 3: is funny to me that sports history, I think twenty

1559
01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 3: thirty years ago you'd hear about Bill Russell. You can't

1560
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:46,960
Speaker 3: really watch Bill Russell nowadays. If you really want to

1561
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:49,720
Speaker 3: have an opinion on Lebron versus MJ, you can go

1562
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:51,840
Speaker 3: back on YouTube and watch all of the MJ stuff

1563
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:55,200
Speaker 3: you want, you know, and sometimes for some for some

1564
01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:58,080
Speaker 3: kids particularly, it doesn't translate. They don't really see it.

1565
01:27:58,160 --> 01:28:00,559
Speaker 3: Gretzky translates if you watch the old if you watch

1566
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:04,840
Speaker 3: the old highlights, those magnificent goals are still otherworldly. It's

1567
01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:08,000
Speaker 3: still otherworldly, stick ending, it's still otherworldly, body control, like

1568
01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:10,080
Speaker 3: all of those things are true. That's universal.

1569
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, totally totally right. All right, I want to

1570
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:23,080
Speaker 2: dive into this because we were waiting for the judge

1571
01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:27,719
Speaker 2: to roll on the NCAA lawsuit and what would happen

1572
01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:33,160
Speaker 2: and what's the offshoot. So the offshoot is there's going

1573
01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:36,559
Speaker 2: to be a salary cap in place in college sports,

1574
01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:43,880
Speaker 2: and there's some wild stuff happening across college sports that's

1575
01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:47,000
Speaker 2: going to impact college football in college basketball in a

1576
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:53,000
Speaker 2: huge way, monster way, beginning first with a salary cap.

1577
01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:57,400
Speaker 2: Now there's a twenty million dollars salary cap. That's the

1578
01:28:57,520 --> 01:29:02,040
Speaker 2: minimum that they could spread their money around. But there's

1579
01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:05,760
Speaker 2: also the nil which will also go to the pool.

1580
01:29:06,120 --> 01:29:10,120
Speaker 2: We had a text chain going yesterday and FITZI, you

1581
01:29:10,240 --> 01:29:13,720
Speaker 2: nailed it. You just said that there's going to be

1582
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:17,800
Speaker 2: a top it's top heavy and it's only going to

1583
01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:19,160
Speaker 2: get more top heavy.

1584
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:24,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, understanding, And look, I'm gonna be totally transparent with

1585
01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:27,160
Speaker 3: the world. Our texted last night. One thing I said is, man,

1586
01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:30,040
Speaker 3: I gotta do some reading. And as much as I

1587
01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:32,599
Speaker 3: thought I was prepared, you know, we all knew this

1588
01:29:32,640 --> 01:29:35,240
Speaker 3: this ruling was coming. Once you start reading through it,

1589
01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:36,040
Speaker 3: I feel like I was in.

1590
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:38,080
Speaker 2: College again, Like I'm just trying to figure this stuff out.

1591
01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:41,679
Speaker 3: You know, as you read through it, it just becomes

1592
01:29:41,720 --> 01:29:43,760
Speaker 3: so apparent that schools is going to have to either

1593
01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:45,320
Speaker 3: opt in or opt out of this, and they're gonna

1594
01:29:45,360 --> 01:29:47,680
Speaker 3: have to figure out how they want to participate in it.

1595
01:29:47,720 --> 01:29:49,720
Speaker 3: Some schools have already said they're not prepared to meet

1596
01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:53,160
Speaker 3: the twenty dollars minimum so or twenty million dollar a cap,

1597
01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:54,160
Speaker 3: So what are they.

1598
01:29:54,040 --> 01:29:54,559
Speaker 2: Going to do?

1599
01:29:54,640 --> 01:29:57,680
Speaker 3: Like it is, we are about to have the inevitable

1600
01:29:57,720 --> 01:30:00,200
Speaker 3: change in college football that is going to lead to

1601
01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:03,559
Speaker 3: a group of schools that choose to participate in college football.

1602
01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:06,120
Speaker 3: And I believe a group of schools that decide it's

1603
01:30:06,200 --> 01:30:08,840
Speaker 3: just not worth it, and they're either going to form

1604
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:11,760
Speaker 3: their own sort of like Division III, or they're going

1605
01:30:11,840 --> 01:30:13,360
Speaker 3: to just figure out, hey, we're not going to have

1606
01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:16,760
Speaker 3: college football programs anymore. And I'm not sure I fault that. Like,

1607
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:21,360
Speaker 3: if you're Middle Tennessee State University, it's already impossible to

1608
01:30:21,439 --> 01:30:24,880
Speaker 3: compete with Alabama. What are you competing for in the

1609
01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:29,839
Speaker 3: new market. If you're UNLV, you know, obviously I've listed

1610
01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:31,760
Speaker 3: two places I've lived in, two places that mean a

1611
01:30:31,760 --> 01:30:33,960
Speaker 3: lot to me. But if you're UNLV, I think you're

1612
01:30:33,960 --> 01:30:35,680
Speaker 3: going to have to really look in the mirror and

1613
01:30:35,680 --> 01:30:38,559
Speaker 3: ask yourself how competitive can we be and how much

1614
01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:41,440
Speaker 3: money is it worth? Can we even raise the money consistently?

1615
01:30:41,479 --> 01:30:44,439
Speaker 3: And one thing that's important to note is that there

1616
01:30:44,439 --> 01:30:47,360
Speaker 3: will now be a committee that is in charge of

1617
01:30:47,400 --> 01:30:51,200
Speaker 3: looking at all NIL deals. And they said that about

1618
01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:54,200
Speaker 3: ninety percent of NIL deals that currently exists that have

1619
01:30:54,280 --> 01:30:57,559
Speaker 3: come from companies would have been approved, but that number

1620
01:30:57,640 --> 01:31:00,960
Speaker 3: is far less from collectives. So concept of a collective

1621
01:31:01,080 --> 01:31:03,080
Speaker 3: just paying somebody to come play on top of the

1622
01:31:03,120 --> 01:31:05,719
Speaker 3: salary cap, that's going to have to get approved by somebody.

1623
01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:08,920
Speaker 3: That the new sort of ruler of college football that's

1624
01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:11,559
Speaker 3: going to be named soon, that that that's not gonna

1625
01:31:11,560 --> 01:31:14,280
Speaker 3: be easy. So I want to stress that we're still

1626
01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:16,559
Speaker 3: in the wild wild West and there's a lot that

1627
01:31:16,640 --> 01:31:17,519
Speaker 3: needs to be figured out.

1628
01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:26,040
Speaker 2: It maybe easier then we figure, well, like there's there

1629
01:31:26,080 --> 01:31:30,600
Speaker 2: there's gonna be ton millions of dollars paid the kids.

1630
01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:36,840
Speaker 2: That is not that you that is basically coming from

1631
01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:42,519
Speaker 2: the collective. Hey, I need X amount of posts, right Like,

1632
01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:44,680
Speaker 2: that's where social media is gonna come to play and

1633
01:31:44,720 --> 01:31:48,880
Speaker 2: they're gonna get paid a bulk of their money through

1634
01:31:49,080 --> 01:31:51,520
Speaker 2: social posting influencing.

1635
01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:55,920
Speaker 3: No, it's a real question is are they is that

1636
01:31:55,960 --> 01:31:59,160
Speaker 3: still is the committee that reviews every NIL dealer are

1637
01:31:59,160 --> 01:31:59,799
Speaker 3: they still going.

1638
01:31:59,680 --> 01:32:02,160
Speaker 2: To a lot those I can't get a real grasp

1639
01:32:02,200 --> 01:32:05,599
Speaker 2: of that. Honestly, I think so. Yeah. So I had

1640
01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:09,120
Speaker 2: this one. I had this the ad on from Saint

1641
01:32:09,200 --> 01:32:16,240
Speaker 2: Joseph's University, Joe Bodensteiner, fascinating, fascinating woman. She ran Notre

1642
01:32:16,360 --> 01:32:21,400
Speaker 2: Dame football, She helped run Notre Dame football for years.

1643
01:32:21,439 --> 01:32:25,040
Speaker 2: She moved on to Saint jose to become their ad

1644
01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:29,760
Speaker 2: And it's funny she had taught me. I talked to her, God,

1645
01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:32,720
Speaker 2: this is a couple about six weeks ago, and she

1646
01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:36,320
Speaker 2: brought up the one of the judge rules kind of

1647
01:32:36,320 --> 01:32:41,320
Speaker 2: what would happen and like, they, uh, they they're not

1648
01:32:41,439 --> 01:32:44,040
Speaker 2: a football school, so they're going all in on basketball.

1649
01:32:44,120 --> 01:32:48,599
Speaker 2: She said, listen, what's gonna happen is you're gonna pick

1650
01:32:48,680 --> 01:32:51,960
Speaker 2: your lane, like who's gonna take baseball, who's going to

1651
01:32:52,040 --> 01:32:55,880
Speaker 2: take basketball, who's gonna take both? And then you know

1652
01:32:56,000 --> 01:32:59,240
Speaker 2: football will be the one where only the biggest of

1653
01:32:59,280 --> 01:33:03,599
Speaker 2: the bigs will do football and basketball because those will

1654
01:33:03,640 --> 01:33:07,800
Speaker 2: be the most money and yees. She said that what's

1655
01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:11,360
Speaker 2: going to happen is they'll have this committee or whatever

1656
01:33:11,360 --> 01:33:13,479
Speaker 2: you want to call it, that's going to look at

1657
01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:18,000
Speaker 2: all the deals, but it's still going to be the

1658
01:33:18,120 --> 01:33:21,320
Speaker 2: way it's going to be set up. They're going to

1659
01:33:21,479 --> 01:33:26,280
Speaker 2: lean toward, you know, allowing the payment. So that includes

1660
01:33:26,680 --> 01:33:31,559
Speaker 2: the easiest thing in the world is well, they're influencer, right,

1661
01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:34,600
Speaker 2: so I'll pay them to post. I mean, what's it

1662
01:33:34,760 --> 01:33:39,560
Speaker 2: worth when you have you know, eight hundred thousand followers

1663
01:33:40,160 --> 01:33:43,280
Speaker 2: and I got a business and they'll just wash it through.

1664
01:33:43,080 --> 01:33:47,160
Speaker 3: That well, and if it's coming through a business, it

1665
01:33:47,200 --> 01:33:48,840
Speaker 3: looks like everyone is saying.

1666
01:33:48,640 --> 01:33:49,920
Speaker 2: Yes, if it's coming through a business.

1667
01:33:49,920 --> 01:33:53,800
Speaker 3: If it's coming straight through a collective, like there's a

1668
01:33:53,840 --> 01:33:55,639
Speaker 3: bunch of schools that are going to have to figure

1669
01:33:55,640 --> 01:33:58,160
Speaker 3: out what to do with their collective. So it's not

1670
01:33:58,200 --> 01:34:00,880
Speaker 3: as simple as you and I together decide we're gonna

1671
01:34:00,880 --> 01:34:01,960
Speaker 3: give money to a kid.

1672
01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:02,519
Speaker 2: To play a temple.

1673
01:34:02,560 --> 01:34:04,439
Speaker 3: He's gonna have to have something that he's doing to

1674
01:34:05,280 --> 01:34:08,280
Speaker 3: play a temple in this situation, right, Like you're right,

1675
01:34:08,360 --> 01:34:10,439
Speaker 3: I mean, we do live in a world, a world

1676
01:34:10,479 --> 01:34:13,000
Speaker 3: where Kylie Jenner makes a million dollars a post, right,

1677
01:34:13,080 --> 01:34:16,000
Speaker 3: So what is it worth for you know, somebody with

1678
01:34:16,080 --> 01:34:18,920
Speaker 3: a huge following to post going to be you know,

1679
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:22,200
Speaker 3: obviously a lot, and they're gonna have to figure out

1680
01:34:22,640 --> 01:34:25,439
Speaker 3: what all of that means. I think the eventual and

1681
01:34:25,520 --> 01:34:27,920
Speaker 3: this is why they continue to say that this is

1682
01:34:28,040 --> 01:34:30,840
Speaker 3: the first step, not the last step. I think the

1683
01:34:30,880 --> 01:34:34,200
Speaker 3: eventuality we're headed towards is the college football is going

1684
01:34:34,240 --> 01:34:36,760
Speaker 3: to look just like the NFL. There's gonna be a

1685
01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:39,439
Speaker 3: whatever two hundred and fifty million dollars salary cap. However,

1686
01:34:39,479 --> 01:34:41,679
Speaker 3: I'm just making imaginary numbers. There's gonna be a massive

1687
01:34:41,720 --> 01:34:44,880
Speaker 3: salary cap, there's gonna be a commissioner, and schools are

1688
01:34:44,920 --> 01:34:45,439
Speaker 3: going to try.

1689
01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:46,759
Speaker 2: And pull back all control again.

1690
01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:49,559
Speaker 3: But once we get to that point, we're gonna have

1691
01:34:49,600 --> 01:34:50,960
Speaker 3: to ask how many schools could you be?

1692
01:34:51,080 --> 01:34:51,120
Speaker 5: Like?

1693
01:34:51,160 --> 01:34:53,639
Speaker 3: I don't know if everybody saw this, but yesterday EA

1694
01:34:53,720 --> 01:34:57,240
Speaker 3: Sports announced that the college football video game this year

1695
01:34:57,560 --> 01:35:00,400
Speaker 3: is going to pay on a scale, So they're going

1696
01:35:00,400 --> 01:35:03,920
Speaker 3: to pay schools, not a standard amount. They're going to

1697
01:35:03,960 --> 01:35:08,160
Speaker 3: pay schools based on how many people actually use that school.

1698
01:35:07,840 --> 01:35:08,439
Speaker 2: In the game.

1699
01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:11,479
Speaker 3: So if you are if you buy you know, EA

1700
01:35:11,560 --> 01:35:16,360
Speaker 3: College Football twenty six, the money that goes to UNLV

1701
01:35:16,840 --> 01:35:19,439
Speaker 3: is different than the money goes to Alabama because more

1702
01:35:19,439 --> 01:35:22,880
Speaker 3: people will play as Alabama. And so that's again it's

1703
01:35:22,880 --> 01:35:25,679
Speaker 3: just continually going to separate the haves and the have nots,

1704
01:35:25,720 --> 01:35:28,640
Speaker 3: and I don't know how many programs can compete with

1705
01:35:28,720 --> 01:35:30,960
Speaker 3: the money that's going to be asked to be spent.

1706
01:35:31,120 --> 01:35:34,160
Speaker 3: Like I think there's an eventuality of a CBA and

1707
01:35:34,200 --> 01:35:38,439
Speaker 3: a revenue split split that's much higher, and we're going

1708
01:35:38,479 --> 01:35:40,639
Speaker 3: to end up with the NFL and college football looking

1709
01:35:40,720 --> 01:35:41,400
Speaker 3: the exact same.

1710
01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:46,920
Speaker 2: I think it will. But I do think you're right

1711
01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:51,760
Speaker 2: in that it'll be the NFL, but only more probably

1712
01:35:53,120 --> 01:35:58,680
Speaker 2: think uh AFC is the Big ten and the NFC

1713
01:35:58,840 --> 01:36:03,080
Speaker 2: is the SCC, Right, the ACC and Big twelve will

1714
01:36:03,120 --> 01:36:07,000
Speaker 2: get folded into it at some point and you'll have

1715
01:36:07,120 --> 01:36:12,960
Speaker 2: those super conferences locked into divisions. And that's kind of

1716
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:17,559
Speaker 2: how kind of I think it's arcing that way. Yeah,

1717
01:36:18,400 --> 01:36:19,640
Speaker 2: you know, but it should.

1718
01:36:19,360 --> 01:36:22,479
Speaker 3: Be noted by the way, real quick that Deloitte is

1719
01:36:22,560 --> 01:36:25,920
Speaker 3: running the NIL clearing so they'll be called nil cooint

1720
01:36:26,360 --> 01:36:28,639
Speaker 3: for anyone that didn't see this. This is the important thing.

1721
01:36:28,960 --> 01:36:32,519
Speaker 3: They'll look at every single deal for every single athlete

1722
01:36:32,520 --> 01:36:35,320
Speaker 3: that is above six hundred dollars in value, and they

1723
01:36:35,360 --> 01:36:37,760
Speaker 3: will have the right to decide if the deal is

1724
01:36:37,800 --> 01:36:41,160
Speaker 3: an appropriate amount. So a deal might be submitted for

1725
01:36:41,160 --> 01:36:43,639
Speaker 3: one hundred thousand dollars for an athlete and a third party.

1726
01:36:43,840 --> 01:36:45,160
Speaker 3: But if they look at it and say, no, it's

1727
01:36:45,160 --> 01:36:47,200
Speaker 3: actually only worth fifty thousand, they can cut the deal

1728
01:36:47,200 --> 01:36:49,839
Speaker 3: in half, so they can alter the deals to align

1729
01:36:49,880 --> 01:36:53,640
Speaker 3: with the suggested figure. It's pretty wild. I just I

1730
01:36:53,840 --> 01:36:57,439
Speaker 3: genuinely am curious. The first time that gets that gets

1731
01:36:57,520 --> 01:37:00,160
Speaker 3: questioned in court, how that's going to hold up. That's

1732
01:37:00,200 --> 01:37:02,360
Speaker 3: the other part of it, right, We don't know, you know.

1733
01:37:02,760 --> 01:37:05,839
Speaker 2: Like like like if I'm the if I'm the lawyer

1734
01:37:06,000 --> 01:37:11,160
Speaker 2: for an athlete and I go so, say, Deloitte denies

1735
01:37:12,640 --> 01:37:19,600
Speaker 2: your fits. He owns uh a widget company, and do

1736
01:37:19,640 --> 01:37:25,320
Speaker 2: you have this highly successful widget company. You're Larry Ellison, right,

1737
01:37:25,479 --> 01:37:28,280
Speaker 2: and you want to go pay the quarterback. And then

1738
01:37:28,360 --> 01:37:32,439
Speaker 2: Deloit goes, no, no, no, this deals excessive. Well, if

1739
01:37:32,479 --> 01:37:35,599
Speaker 2: I'm the lawyer for the kid, I'm going, well, who

1740
01:37:35,640 --> 01:37:39,479
Speaker 2: are you to tell the market value? The market value

1741
01:37:39,479 --> 01:37:44,000
Speaker 2: is only what the kid, So his posts are what

1742
01:37:44,080 --> 01:37:47,479
Speaker 2: they are. You can't tell. You can't tell Larry Ellison

1743
01:37:47,560 --> 01:37:51,120
Speaker 2: or Jason fitz not to pay that kid. That's where

1744
01:37:51,120 --> 01:37:55,320
Speaker 2: it's worth what it's worth his business. I don't know

1745
01:37:55,360 --> 01:37:57,639
Speaker 2: how that holds up in court.

1746
01:37:57,880 --> 01:38:00,840
Speaker 3: I don't know, and nobody yet his answer for me

1747
01:38:00,920 --> 01:38:04,519
Speaker 3: what all of this means for insurance and workers comp? Like,

1748
01:38:04,600 --> 01:38:07,360
Speaker 3: I know nobody listening cares about workers comp. I would

1749
01:38:07,360 --> 01:38:10,840
Speaker 3: just stressed to you that NFL, NFL players, it's a

1750
01:38:10,920 --> 01:38:13,280
Speaker 3: huge part of life. And now that these kids are

1751
01:38:13,320 --> 01:38:16,280
Speaker 3: being paid directly by schools, workers comp is going to

1752
01:38:16,320 --> 01:38:19,040
Speaker 3: become a huge part insurance payouts for players.

1753
01:38:19,439 --> 01:38:23,160
Speaker 2: You are spot on right, So Jill, in that interview

1754
01:38:23,240 --> 01:38:26,400
Speaker 2: I was talking about, Jill said, one of the things

1755
01:38:26,439 --> 01:38:30,200
Speaker 2: that's interesting is so if they have if you have

1756
01:38:30,240 --> 01:38:32,920
Speaker 2: a court, let's just say you the quarterback in their case,

1757
01:38:32,920 --> 01:38:38,160
Speaker 2: they're basketball, and the quarterback gets hurt and their doctors

1758
01:38:38,320 --> 01:38:43,800
Speaker 2: recommend something and the kid says, well, I need to

1759
01:38:43,960 --> 01:38:48,080
Speaker 2: have a second opinion. Well, the university doesn't pay for

1760
01:38:48,120 --> 01:38:50,240
Speaker 2: those second Like if you want to go to doctor

1761
01:38:50,320 --> 01:38:55,160
Speaker 2: James Andrews, right, the school doesn't pay for that, Like

1762
01:38:55,360 --> 01:39:00,240
Speaker 2: you've got to pay for that, And now you the

1763
01:39:00,320 --> 01:39:04,200
Speaker 2: school could be liable because if their doctors say not

1764
01:39:04,280 --> 01:39:07,320
Speaker 2: everything's good, and then all of a sudden the kid

1765
01:39:07,439 --> 01:39:11,040
Speaker 2: does not have an NFL career, they could be able

1766
01:39:11,120 --> 01:39:11,519
Speaker 2: to hook.

1767
01:39:13,680 --> 01:39:18,679
Speaker 3: It's it's I'll just say I had an agent buddy

1768
01:39:19,320 --> 01:39:21,800
Speaker 3: that used to sit down with this play. He still does,

1769
01:39:21,840 --> 01:39:24,280
Speaker 3: I'm sure, sits down with his players and he's like, hey,

1770
01:39:24,320 --> 01:39:26,400
Speaker 3: if you were injured while playing, remember today's the last

1771
01:39:26,439 --> 01:39:28,759
Speaker 3: day that you can sign that you can submit any workers'

1772
01:39:28,760 --> 01:39:31,320
Speaker 3: comp claims. And in different states it works differently. It's

1773
01:39:31,439 --> 01:39:34,600
Speaker 3: really complicated, and it's legally is that NFL players do

1774
01:39:34,680 --> 01:39:37,080
Speaker 3: with every day. Now that these kids will actually be

1775
01:39:37,240 --> 01:39:40,439
Speaker 3: employees of the school, it's going to become part of

1776
01:39:40,439 --> 01:39:42,479
Speaker 3: that too. And nobody's explained to me who's paying for

1777
01:39:42,520 --> 01:39:43,559
Speaker 3: it and how it's being paid for.

1778
01:39:44,280 --> 01:39:47,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's wild, man, it's crazy. But get but let's

1779
01:39:47,680 --> 01:39:52,280
Speaker 2: get into the uh because I think that's wild. The

1780
01:39:52,479 --> 01:39:56,719
Speaker 2: what EA Sports is doing. You gotta flush that out

1781
01:39:57,160 --> 01:40:01,439
Speaker 2: because how does that work? Where the fellas right here?

1782
01:40:01,560 --> 01:40:04,519
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1783
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1784
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1785
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1786
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1787
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1788
01:40:27,400 --> 01:40:31,880
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1789
01:40:31,920 --> 01:40:35,000
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1793
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1795
01:40:50,720 --> 01:40:53,719
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1796
01:40:53,720 --> 01:40:57,479
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1797
01:40:57,960 --> 01:41:00,200
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1798
01:41:00,320 --> 01:41:03,280
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1799
01:41:03,640 --> 01:41:06,400
Speaker 2: at the top of your screen, so it's right there

1800
01:41:06,439 --> 01:41:11,400
Speaker 2: for you. Here's my question, is this a good thing

1801
01:41:12,479 --> 01:41:17,559
Speaker 2: for college sports? And look, does everybody need to be

1802
01:41:17,600 --> 01:41:21,960
Speaker 2: in the football right Like you're gonna be choosing certain

1803
01:41:22,040 --> 01:41:25,840
Speaker 2: schools are gonna choose, you know, we're gonna like go

1804
01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:33,280
Speaker 2: heavy into basketball, or we're gonna go heavy basketball, baseball, softball,

1805
01:41:34,080 --> 01:41:38,120
Speaker 2: women's basketball, men's basketball. Like you know, like you're gonna

1806
01:41:38,120 --> 01:41:42,240
Speaker 2: wind up choosing your revenue sports. So let's face it,

1807
01:41:42,600 --> 01:41:47,800
Speaker 2: you got your monster revenue generator, which is football, and

1808
01:41:47,840 --> 01:41:51,920
Speaker 2: then basketball's too, and then like baseball would be a

1809
01:41:51,920 --> 01:41:54,680
Speaker 2: different distant third baseball.

1810
01:41:54,200 --> 01:41:58,160
Speaker 3: Softball, I mean, don't at some level for all of

1811
01:41:58,200 --> 01:42:01,439
Speaker 3: the hend rate of what does this mean for the

1812
01:42:01,439 --> 01:42:05,960
Speaker 3: future of college sports? I would argue that maybe it's

1813
01:42:06,000 --> 01:42:08,400
Speaker 3: that whole method of Like there's a book called From

1814
01:42:08,680 --> 01:42:11,840
Speaker 3: Good to Great, and it's about analyzing what you're doing

1815
01:42:11,920 --> 01:42:14,439
Speaker 3: less things and analyzing what you're best at and doing.

1816
01:42:14,200 --> 01:42:15,559
Speaker 2: That at the highest possible level.

1817
01:42:15,560 --> 01:42:17,600
Speaker 3: They'll try to be everything to everybody, try to be

1818
01:42:17,800 --> 01:42:21,760
Speaker 3: exactly who you are to the right people. Look, I'm

1819
01:42:21,800 --> 01:42:24,880
Speaker 3: sitting twenty minutes from Yukon where I am right now.

1820
01:42:25,000 --> 01:42:27,400
Speaker 3: What's the point of Yukon football and the new environment.

1821
01:42:27,800 --> 01:42:30,879
Speaker 3: No offense to people that I know around that program,

1822
01:42:30,920 --> 01:42:33,680
Speaker 3: But like I asked the question, genuinely, Yukon is not

1823
01:42:33,760 --> 01:42:36,240
Speaker 3: competing for championships. They're not going to compete for the

1824
01:42:36,240 --> 01:42:38,880
Speaker 3: playoffs more often than not, right, Like, that's not really

1825
01:42:38,920 --> 01:42:42,160
Speaker 3: part of the lexicon of Yukon football. So every dollar

1826
01:42:42,200 --> 01:42:44,400
Speaker 3: you're spending on Yukon football, you could be putting into

1827
01:42:44,479 --> 01:42:48,000
Speaker 3: Yukon basketball, which is by the way, electric, and Yukon

1828
01:42:48,080 --> 01:42:51,200
Speaker 3: women's basketball, which is by the way electric. Like, those

1829
01:42:51,240 --> 01:42:55,599
Speaker 3: are two programs that genuinely fill their buildings every single night.

1830
01:42:55,800 --> 01:42:59,200
Speaker 2: So maybe it will in some ways.

1831
01:42:59,000 --> 01:43:02,000
Speaker 3: As weird as this all feels, you know, if your

1832
01:43:02,200 --> 01:43:06,719
Speaker 3: school like that doesn't really have a prominent football program,

1833
01:43:07,080 --> 01:43:10,800
Speaker 3: should you just consider shuttering it down, putting those resources

1834
01:43:10,840 --> 01:43:14,800
Speaker 3: into college basketball, and deciding instead that that's the world

1835
01:43:14,880 --> 01:43:15,640
Speaker 3: you want to compete in.

1836
01:43:15,720 --> 01:43:16,599
Speaker 2: Maybe we end.

1837
01:43:16,600 --> 01:43:18,960
Speaker 3: Up with instead of you know, one hundred and something

1838
01:43:19,040 --> 01:43:21,639
Speaker 3: college football programs, maybe we only end up with forty

1839
01:43:21,720 --> 01:43:24,559
Speaker 3: or fifty. And then that's where again, the NFL comps

1840
01:43:24,600 --> 01:43:28,000
Speaker 3: become real. Like, maybe we end up with essentially forty

1841
01:43:28,120 --> 01:43:30,639
Speaker 3: real college football programs that are all willing to put

1842
01:43:30,920 --> 01:43:32,920
Speaker 3: the money in that it will take to do that,

1843
01:43:33,040 --> 01:43:36,400
Speaker 3: and everybody else focuses on college basketball, which will make

1844
01:43:36,400 --> 01:43:38,840
Speaker 3: the basketball better too, if you're putting all your resources there.

1845
01:43:38,840 --> 01:43:42,360
Speaker 3: I don't think that that's right now. It feels catastrophic

1846
01:43:42,400 --> 01:43:43,720
Speaker 3: to all of us that are used to what we're

1847
01:43:43,840 --> 01:43:47,280
Speaker 3: used to. But I mean, in twenty years, how many

1848
01:43:47,320 --> 01:43:50,679
Speaker 3: people will really give a damn if Duke football doesn't

1849
01:43:50,720 --> 01:43:52,679
Speaker 3: exist as long as Duke basketball does.

1850
01:43:53,439 --> 01:43:59,480
Speaker 2: Now, I do think, I do think those those schools

1851
01:43:59,600 --> 01:44:03,840
Speaker 2: like that you mentioned Duke like Duke football. They they

1852
01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:08,880
Speaker 2: Duke should be a player in both, right, Like, I.

1853
01:44:08,800 --> 01:44:10,880
Speaker 3: Don't know if it's on the line for me, so

1854
01:44:10,920 --> 01:44:12,519
Speaker 3: I'm interested to hear what you have saying this because

1855
01:44:12,520 --> 01:44:13,439
Speaker 3: they're right on the line.

1856
01:44:13,439 --> 01:44:17,640
Speaker 2: For me, yeah, I would. I think their duty is

1857
01:44:17,680 --> 01:44:22,560
Speaker 2: to be in football. Like you've already got all the

1858
01:44:22,600 --> 01:44:27,040
Speaker 2: resources in basketball, but you could do even more in football.

1859
01:44:28,920 --> 01:44:31,840
Speaker 2: I don't think I get your point about the streamlining

1860
01:44:31,880 --> 01:44:34,240
Speaker 2: it because I agree with you, but I think it's

1861
01:44:34,280 --> 01:44:36,400
Speaker 2: going to be more than forty. And I know your

1862
01:44:36,479 --> 01:44:39,920
Speaker 2: numbers not you know. Yeah, I haven't sat down to

1863
01:44:39,920 --> 01:44:42,479
Speaker 2: put it right, but I do think. But I mean

1864
01:44:42,560 --> 01:44:45,880
Speaker 2: by like double like I do think there's going to

1865
01:44:45,920 --> 01:44:54,400
Speaker 2: be plenty of football schools you're looking at like where

1866
01:44:54,439 --> 01:44:58,400
Speaker 2: the edge is, like you continent interesting because that kind

1867
01:44:58,400 --> 01:45:01,240
Speaker 2: of reminds me of they would be on the edge

1868
01:45:01,240 --> 01:45:05,599
Speaker 2: of it, Temple Miama Mater would be on the edge

1869
01:45:05,600 --> 01:45:08,400
Speaker 2: like they've been struggling and trying to be a player,

1870
01:45:08,600 --> 01:45:11,880
Speaker 2: and they were with Matt Ruhle for a little bit.

1871
01:45:12,120 --> 01:45:16,240
Speaker 2: And then it's really they can't get a coach to

1872
01:45:16,320 --> 01:45:21,320
Speaker 2: stay because anytime. That's the real issue with a lot

1873
01:45:21,360 --> 01:45:24,040
Speaker 2: of these guys is that a lot of these programs

1874
01:45:24,800 --> 01:45:28,800
Speaker 2: is that when you have any kind of success, the

1875
01:45:28,840 --> 01:45:33,040
Speaker 2: coach leaves, and now it's worse because now the kids

1876
01:45:33,040 --> 01:45:35,320
Speaker 2: in the portal, are the kids will leaving just going

1877
01:45:35,320 --> 01:45:37,719
Speaker 2: to the portal, Like the minute they have a good year,

1878
01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:41,439
Speaker 2: you know, they're gonna go look to make bank and

1879
01:45:41,880 --> 01:45:44,880
Speaker 2: you're probably not gonna be able to afford to keep them. Now,

1880
01:45:45,000 --> 01:45:50,720
Speaker 2: those those you see these pop up programs right that

1881
01:45:51,400 --> 01:45:56,040
Speaker 2: suddenly are in the game, Like, who was it, sm

1882
01:45:56,080 --> 01:45:57,920
Speaker 2: you spent the most money last.

1883
01:45:57,800 --> 01:46:02,800
Speaker 3: Year, It's got to be they're right up there with

1884
01:46:02,840 --> 01:46:05,760
Speaker 3: all that Texas money. I mean, there's no doubt they're

1885
01:46:05,800 --> 01:46:06,679
Speaker 3: right up there somewhere.

1886
01:46:07,000 --> 01:46:08,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, And you're.

1887
01:46:08,400 --> 01:46:10,680
Speaker 3: Right, there are schools like that I'm not thinking Like

1888
01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:15,719
Speaker 3: SMU certainly is one that I'm thinking I'm not thinking

1889
01:46:15,760 --> 01:46:20,000
Speaker 3: of in general, So maybe maybe they're more like I

1890
01:46:20,080 --> 01:46:23,599
Speaker 3: just googled it, like you know, and the quick search

1891
01:46:23,680 --> 01:46:27,400
Speaker 3: on Yukon, for example, is that Yukon Football pulled in

1892
01:46:27,520 --> 01:46:30,080
Speaker 3: two point two million dollars in ticket sales during the

1893
01:46:30,120 --> 01:46:32,040
Speaker 3: last report of the year, which is twenty twenty three,

1894
01:46:32,120 --> 01:46:35,760
Speaker 3: twenty four, So two point two million dollars in ticket sales, Like, yeah,

1895
01:46:35,800 --> 01:46:37,960
Speaker 3: they get some money for playing some of their other games.

1896
01:46:38,320 --> 01:46:40,960
Speaker 3: UNLV pulled it up two point five million dollars in

1897
01:46:41,000 --> 01:46:43,599
Speaker 3: ticket sales. Yeah, they got one point five million dollars

1898
01:46:43,600 --> 01:46:46,479
Speaker 3: for playing Michigan, you know, but you start looking at

1899
01:46:46,479 --> 01:46:49,000
Speaker 3: some of these and saying, okay, now, all of a sudden,

1900
01:46:49,200 --> 01:46:50,840
Speaker 3: in the next five years, you're going to need to

1901
01:46:50,920 --> 01:46:53,120
Speaker 3: hit a salary cap at thirty five million dollars is

1902
01:46:53,160 --> 01:46:55,840
Speaker 3: where they think it'll grow to in the first five years. Yeah,

1903
01:46:55,840 --> 01:46:59,920
Speaker 3: thirty five million dollars just for your players, not to mention, however,

1904
01:47:00,120 --> 01:47:03,040
Speaker 3: extra much for your coaching staff and then your facilities

1905
01:47:03,560 --> 01:47:06,320
Speaker 3: and everybody else that's around it. You're talking about needing

1906
01:47:06,400 --> 01:47:10,599
Speaker 3: to have sixty seventy million dollars at least that you

1907
01:47:10,640 --> 01:47:15,200
Speaker 3: can just throw to football alone. I don't I don't

1908
01:47:15,280 --> 01:47:17,600
Speaker 3: know that there are eighty schools that are going to

1909
01:47:17,680 --> 01:47:22,000
Speaker 3: be If you need sixty million dollars, then you've got

1910
01:47:22,000 --> 01:47:24,680
Speaker 3: to be generating one hundred to make that worth it.

1911
01:47:24,960 --> 01:47:30,439
Speaker 2: How many Actually general they will because of the conference money.

1912
01:47:31,600 --> 01:47:33,799
Speaker 2: So as long as you're in a Big ten, SCC

1913
01:47:34,400 --> 01:47:39,439
Speaker 2: ACC Big twelve to a lesser extent, but you know

1914
01:47:38,760 --> 01:47:43,559
Speaker 2: you're you're going to be making back because the conference money.

1915
01:47:43,560 --> 01:47:47,880
Speaker 2: The money in football is big, which is why there'll

1916
01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:54,000
Speaker 2: be a second tier of football. Like you'll have your

1917
01:47:54,080 --> 01:47:56,920
Speaker 2: eighty programs or whatever you want to call it, set

1918
01:47:57,000 --> 01:48:01,680
Speaker 2: top seventy five. Then you'll have a another tier that

1919
01:48:01,800 --> 01:48:06,559
Speaker 2: will be in but you want to call it the uh,

1920
01:48:08,400 --> 01:48:11,840
Speaker 2: what's the secondary division called? And you have the EPL,

1921
01:48:12,040 --> 01:48:16,200
Speaker 2: and then you have whatever the next league is, and

1922
01:48:16,240 --> 01:48:18,479
Speaker 2: then you can have relegation that sort of thing. But

1923
01:48:18,520 --> 01:48:23,040
Speaker 2: you'll have that. You'll have that because there's going to

1924
01:48:23,080 --> 01:48:27,760
Speaker 2: be a need for it TV wise, right like, even

1925
01:48:27,800 --> 01:48:32,040
Speaker 2: though it's lesser, still money, Like all these networks and

1926
01:48:32,120 --> 01:48:39,160
Speaker 2: streamers are clamoring for football air. They want to air

1927
01:48:39,200 --> 01:48:43,200
Speaker 2: it because they know that, you know, even the lesser

1928
01:48:43,320 --> 01:48:45,400
Speaker 2: games are still being viewed.

1929
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a that's a that's a very good point.

1930
01:48:48,320 --> 01:48:49,280
Speaker 2: And the Big.

1931
01:48:49,120 --> 01:48:52,799
Speaker 3: Twelve TV deal is around fifty million dollars per school,

1932
01:48:53,479 --> 01:48:55,880
Speaker 3: so that probably gets you to about halfway on what

1933
01:48:55,920 --> 01:48:59,240
Speaker 3: you need to be able to meet some of these

1934
01:49:00,040 --> 01:49:04,599
Speaker 3: vironments just for the football side. So maybe maybe it's there.

1935
01:49:04,640 --> 01:49:06,320
Speaker 3: I I just don't know.

1936
01:49:06,560 --> 01:49:07,200
Speaker 2: I hear you.

1937
01:49:07,280 --> 01:49:11,200
Speaker 3: It's a really good point that TV they need the broadcast,

1938
01:49:11,360 --> 01:49:14,800
Speaker 3: like all of these subscription services and streaming services, they

1939
01:49:14,840 --> 01:49:18,360
Speaker 3: need football games to air. And a Mountain West game

1940
01:49:18,479 --> 01:49:21,320
Speaker 3: is still going to matter because it's it's a viable

1941
01:49:21,439 --> 01:49:22,240
Speaker 3: TV package.

1942
01:49:22,320 --> 01:49:25,920
Speaker 2: We're looking at Mac, right, look at match. People fell

1943
01:49:25,920 --> 01:49:28,000
Speaker 2: in love with the patch, but how much?

1944
01:49:28,200 --> 01:49:32,080
Speaker 3: And I don't know this, Like I just in this environment.

1945
01:49:32,120 --> 01:49:37,080
Speaker 3: So I'm looking here the MAC each school, each school

1946
01:49:37,120 --> 01:49:39,439
Speaker 3: makes six hundred and seventy thousand dollars a year on

1947
01:49:39,479 --> 01:49:40,240
Speaker 3: that TV deal.

1948
01:49:41,000 --> 01:49:42,720
Speaker 2: That's it. That's it.

1949
01:49:43,360 --> 01:49:46,960
Speaker 3: So the MAC conference each school six hundred and seventy

1950
01:49:47,040 --> 01:49:48,200
Speaker 3: thousand according.

1951
01:49:47,880 --> 01:49:49,080
Speaker 2: To to Google.

1952
01:49:49,960 --> 01:49:53,559
Speaker 3: You know that might I don't know. I'm just looking

1953
01:49:53,560 --> 01:49:57,760
Speaker 3: at that and saying, I don't know. I just don't

1954
01:49:57,800 --> 01:50:01,880
Speaker 3: know how that's sustainable. I it looks like the MAC

1955
01:50:01,960 --> 01:50:03,920
Speaker 3: deal is about to go up to one point five

1956
01:50:03,920 --> 01:50:06,200
Speaker 3: to two point five million dollars per school per year.

1957
01:50:07,040 --> 01:50:09,360
Speaker 3: I mean, that's just nowhere near what you're gonna have

1958
01:50:09,439 --> 01:50:13,559
Speaker 3: to have to be competitive in this lens. So you're right,

1959
01:50:13,600 --> 01:50:15,240
Speaker 3: you're gonna have to opt out of this deal, and

1960
01:50:15,280 --> 01:50:18,160
Speaker 3: you're gonna have to create your own sort of side

1961
01:50:18,640 --> 01:50:22,400
Speaker 3: hustle of of what it looks like. And you know,

1962
01:50:22,479 --> 01:50:24,040
Speaker 3: I just don't know. I don't know what the long

1963
01:50:24,120 --> 01:50:25,439
Speaker 3: term future of that is. Right.

1964
01:50:25,520 --> 01:50:28,960
Speaker 2: Well, the other aspect is that that we're the next

1965
01:50:29,000 --> 01:50:32,599
Speaker 2: shoe to drop, which is gonna be a really interesting

1966
01:50:32,640 --> 01:50:37,639
Speaker 2: one is when they start the billionaires start buying up schools.

1967
01:50:38,720 --> 01:50:41,920
Speaker 2: M hm, So, which is gonna happen. They're gonna go

1968
01:50:42,000 --> 01:50:46,200
Speaker 2: in and they're gonna treat them its universe. You'll say,

1969
01:50:46,880 --> 01:50:51,760
Speaker 2: all right, you're we're gonna license the football program to you,

1970
01:50:53,000 --> 01:50:55,439
Speaker 2: and you'll be the business like you'll pay the school

1971
01:50:56,200 --> 01:50:59,160
Speaker 2: a rights holder's fee or whatever wherever the phase is,

1972
01:50:59,840 --> 01:51:04,400
Speaker 2: and you run. You know, Michigan football is run by

1973
01:51:04,600 --> 01:51:10,479
Speaker 2: uh an owner Larry Elsa insane, Right, that's insane. You're

1974
01:51:10,479 --> 01:51:12,920
Speaker 2: you're right, And it's just insane to think about that

1975
01:51:12,960 --> 01:51:15,639
Speaker 2: like it is, because you're someone to subsidize all the money.

1976
01:51:15,800 --> 01:51:18,679
Speaker 2: Like if you're gonna if it's gonna take if it's

1977
01:51:18,920 --> 01:51:23,439
Speaker 2: if it's if you're gonna take it's gonna take that

1978
01:51:23,520 --> 01:51:27,479
Speaker 2: much money, then people are gonna come in and they're

1979
01:51:27,479 --> 01:51:30,840
Speaker 2: gonna wanna they're gonna want to invest in it. It's

1980
01:51:30,920 --> 01:51:34,920
Speaker 2: just just we'll get the stadiums and I don't know

1981
01:51:34,960 --> 01:51:38,920
Speaker 2: how it's gonna are we gonna end up with owners

1982
01:51:38,920 --> 01:51:42,120
Speaker 2: that are essentially licensing schools, Like, Hey, I own a

1983
01:51:42,120 --> 01:51:44,400
Speaker 2: college football team and I'm gonna pay a licensing deal

1984
01:51:44,400 --> 01:51:47,360
Speaker 2: to Michigan and make that that's already started. The guys

1985
01:51:47,360 --> 01:51:50,439
Speaker 2: have already acquired ya. I know that that's great.

1986
01:51:50,479 --> 01:51:52,400
Speaker 3: I mean it makes business sense if I put my

1987
01:51:52,439 --> 01:51:54,479
Speaker 3: shark tank hat on, like, that makes a ton of

1988
01:51:54,479 --> 01:51:56,200
Speaker 3: business sense for everybody involved.

1989
01:51:56,280 --> 01:51:58,519
Speaker 2: But yeah, my god, it's just that.

1990
01:51:58,880 --> 01:52:01,720
Speaker 3: Like and again all the stems from the court ruling.

1991
01:52:01,800 --> 01:52:05,280
Speaker 3: But also just now, if you're a fan of if

1992
01:52:05,320 --> 01:52:07,519
Speaker 3: you go by the EA college football game, I keep

1993
01:52:07,560 --> 01:52:09,679
Speaker 3: going back to this, and you just want the challenge

1994
01:52:09,720 --> 01:52:11,200
Speaker 3: of playing is a bad team. So you're like, you

1995
01:52:11,240 --> 01:52:12,920
Speaker 3: know what, I don't want to play even though I'm

1996
01:52:12,960 --> 01:52:15,720
Speaker 3: a huge, lifelong, Diehardened Falls fan, I'm gonna pick a

1997
01:52:15,720 --> 01:52:18,320
Speaker 3: really crappy team to play with. Well, now you're costing

1998
01:52:18,360 --> 01:52:20,479
Speaker 3: your team money because every time you don't play as

1999
01:52:20,520 --> 01:52:23,760
Speaker 3: your favorite team, that affects the payout your favorite team gets. Like,

2000
01:52:23,840 --> 01:52:26,080
Speaker 3: that's just a different with a different.

2001
01:52:25,800 --> 01:52:29,519
Speaker 2: World hat, Cordy olliside explain it to me, because I

2002
01:52:29,600 --> 01:52:33,680
Speaker 2: don't know how that is, Like how do you? Like?

2003
01:52:33,920 --> 01:52:36,600
Speaker 2: Why is how did you gotta explain it to me?

2004
01:52:36,680 --> 01:52:41,800
Speaker 2: Because it doesn't make sense you It doesn't make sense

2005
01:52:41,960 --> 01:52:45,880
Speaker 2: how that would be the model. So I'm curious to

2006
01:52:45,920 --> 01:52:49,559
Speaker 2: see what the details are where the fellas every week

2007
01:52:49,640 --> 01:52:57,439
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2015
01:53:29,840 --> 01:53:36,240
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2016
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Speaker 2: w G today in your ports share had hit Marsha

2017
01:53:43,360 --> 01:53:45,160
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2018
01:53:47,200 --> 01:53:51,439
Speaker 3: And overtime and the Panthers win game two by four.

2019
01:53:51,960 --> 01:53:58,200
Speaker 2: The series it's tied and a game apiece. Wow, thrilling stuff.

2020
01:53:58,439 --> 01:54:02,160
Speaker 2: We'll get back to uh to NBA and NHL playoffs

2021
01:54:02,320 --> 01:54:05,240
Speaker 2: next hour and another brain will want to discuss it

2022
01:54:05,280 --> 01:54:07,960
Speaker 2: as well, but just to clarify, and then I want

2023
01:54:08,000 --> 01:54:09,800
Speaker 2: you to kind of get into the EA thing because

2024
01:54:09,840 --> 01:54:12,280
Speaker 2: I think that's fascinating too, because a lot of people

2025
01:54:12,360 --> 01:54:17,479
Speaker 2: are asking me, uh, They're listening saying, hey, what is

2026
01:54:17,520 --> 01:54:20,280
Speaker 2: that like? So, what does it mean? Is gonna go

2027
01:54:20,479 --> 01:54:25,000
Speaker 2: into just football? Are just basketball? And Notre Dame what

2028
01:54:25,120 --> 01:54:28,120
Speaker 2: are they doing? And you know Ohio State, and so

2029
01:54:29,320 --> 01:54:32,120
Speaker 2: what it's gonna look like is for the most part,

2030
01:54:33,160 --> 01:54:36,040
Speaker 2: your big state schools are all going to be everything.

2031
01:54:36,120 --> 01:54:38,640
Speaker 2: Still they're not gonna it's not gonna change. So all

2032
01:54:38,720 --> 01:54:44,960
Speaker 2: your big schools, your state schools, Penn State, Nebraska, Ohio State, Michigan,

2033
01:54:45,000 --> 01:54:46,960
Speaker 2: like they're gonna all the Michigan State, they're all gonna

2034
01:54:47,000 --> 01:54:52,040
Speaker 2: have all all sports, your bigger sports schools. Notre Dame

2035
01:54:52,320 --> 01:54:56,640
Speaker 2: is going to have both football and basketball. The ones

2036
01:54:56,680 --> 01:55:01,200
Speaker 2: that are gonna not do football are are your smaller

2037
01:55:01,600 --> 01:55:06,320
Speaker 2: private Catholic schools. Like I mentioned the ad from Saint Joe's.

2038
01:55:06,320 --> 01:55:10,520
Speaker 2: They don't have a football team, right, Like those smaller

2039
01:55:10,680 --> 01:55:14,560
Speaker 2: Catholic schools are just gonna go all in on basketball,

2040
01:55:15,440 --> 01:55:20,480
Speaker 2: which they already are basically now. Anyway, Saint John's, I mean,

2041
01:55:20,640 --> 01:55:25,040
Speaker 2: go look through go look at those schools and they're

2042
01:55:25,080 --> 01:55:28,840
Speaker 2: basketball schools. Anyway, Good Zaga like you're not going to

2043
01:55:28,920 --> 01:55:32,200
Speaker 2: have they're not going to get into football. I don't

2044
01:55:32,200 --> 01:55:35,720
Speaker 2: think it's going to be a mass like, oh my god,

2045
01:55:35,760 --> 01:55:38,000
Speaker 2: they're gonna get rid of They're gonna get rid of

2046
01:55:38,360 --> 01:55:40,440
Speaker 2: you know, football is going to go away. I don't

2047
01:55:40,480 --> 01:55:40,960
Speaker 2: believe that.

2048
01:55:42,880 --> 01:55:45,960
Speaker 3: If you're an SEC big ten, if you're one of the.

2049
01:55:45,880 --> 01:55:49,440
Speaker 2: Power forwards, you're probably right most of the power force.

2050
01:55:50,680 --> 01:55:53,360
Speaker 3: What happens to Memphis for example, Like I talk to

2051
01:55:53,480 --> 01:55:56,680
Speaker 3: my buddies in the Memphis station every week. I love

2052
01:55:56,720 --> 01:55:58,160
Speaker 3: Memphis football, Memphis basketball.

2053
01:55:58,160 --> 01:55:58,920
Speaker 2: I love that city.

2054
01:55:59,320 --> 01:56:05,120
Speaker 3: But Memphis football, their program generates in total, including ticket sales,

2055
01:56:05,280 --> 01:56:09,280
Speaker 3: media deals, sponsorships, around twenty million dollars a year. Is

2056
01:56:09,320 --> 01:56:12,320
Speaker 3: Memphis going to be willing to lose money every year

2057
01:56:12,760 --> 01:56:15,760
Speaker 3: to have football? I don't know long term the answer,

2058
01:56:15,880 --> 01:56:18,280
Speaker 3: Like once we get to the spot that the salary

2059
01:56:18,280 --> 01:56:21,720
Speaker 3: cap alone is the revenue sharing salary cap is going

2060
01:56:21,800 --> 01:56:24,440
Speaker 3: to be thirty five million dollars. This said in five years,

2061
01:56:25,200 --> 01:56:28,160
Speaker 3: that's a fifteen million dollar loss per year just to

2062
01:56:28,280 --> 01:56:31,120
Speaker 3: start with, for Memphis football to be a team that

2063
01:56:31,920 --> 01:56:35,240
Speaker 3: has very little maybe an outside shot at the College

2064
01:56:35,280 --> 01:56:37,400
Speaker 3: Football Playoff is the highest ranked group of five. But

2065
01:56:37,480 --> 01:56:41,120
Speaker 3: like that's you're begging and bleeding for it. I don't

2066
01:56:41,160 --> 01:56:44,120
Speaker 3: share your confidence that programs like Memphis are going to

2067
01:56:44,160 --> 01:56:47,000
Speaker 3: continue to invest in football in five years. I don't know.

2068
01:56:47,880 --> 01:56:49,960
Speaker 3: I don't know why you do it. Like we saw

2069
01:56:50,440 --> 01:56:52,640
Speaker 3: one of the NCAA. I can't forgive me if not

2070
01:56:52,680 --> 01:56:55,160
Speaker 3: remember which team it was, but one of the NCAA

2071
01:56:55,240 --> 01:56:58,200
Speaker 3: tournament teams this year from college basketball right after the

2072
01:56:58,240 --> 01:57:02,400
Speaker 3: tournament declassified down Division III. And you know they did

2073
01:57:02,400 --> 01:57:04,440
Speaker 3: that because they looked around the landscape and said, hey,

2074
01:57:04,840 --> 01:57:07,520
Speaker 3: it's just no longer financially viable for us to try and.

2075
01:57:07,680 --> 01:57:11,880
Speaker 2: Rute, especially with basketball, because you're gonna have way more

2076
01:57:11,880 --> 01:57:14,600
Speaker 2: competition in basketball.

2077
01:57:14,600 --> 01:57:16,880
Speaker 3: There was a there was a report from one of

2078
01:57:16,880 --> 01:57:20,040
Speaker 3: the viable college reporters the other day that Jace Richardson

2079
01:57:20,080 --> 01:57:23,800
Speaker 3: was making over twenty million dollars and in nil for

2080
01:57:24,000 --> 01:57:27,720
Speaker 3: Michigan State last year. Like if that's if those numbers

2081
01:57:27,720 --> 01:57:30,640
Speaker 3: are anywhere near real and I haven't done enough of

2082
01:57:30,680 --> 01:57:32,960
Speaker 3: my own research to be able to verify that, but

2083
01:57:33,120 --> 01:57:34,240
Speaker 3: like it's gonna become.

2084
01:57:34,080 --> 01:57:37,720
Speaker 2: Kids, right, Like yeah, but like they're the top, Like

2085
01:57:37,840 --> 01:57:43,440
Speaker 2: basketball is an easy sport. It's a cheaper sport to do.

2086
01:57:44,240 --> 01:57:46,440
Speaker 2: Like I agree with you with Like you brought up

2087
01:57:46,440 --> 01:57:49,000
Speaker 2: a great point about Memphis football, Like I don't know

2088
01:57:49,040 --> 01:57:49,840
Speaker 2: the antis.

2089
01:57:49,600 --> 01:57:51,760
Speaker 3: So I'm saying, like Memphis should take that money from

2090
01:57:51,760 --> 01:57:54,640
Speaker 3: football and instead put it towards basketball because they need

2091
01:57:54,680 --> 01:57:57,760
Speaker 3: them they could that money could help them compete in basketball.

2092
01:57:57,800 --> 01:57:59,600
Speaker 3: That's why I think the Memphis Is of the world

2093
01:57:59,640 --> 01:58:00,960
Speaker 3: will have to look around and decide.

2094
01:58:01,160 --> 01:58:04,840
Speaker 2: I also think that there's gonna be wealthy Memphis h

2095
01:58:05,600 --> 01:58:09,200
Speaker 2: grads that go, well, we don't want to alumni that

2096
01:58:09,360 --> 01:58:11,160
Speaker 2: we go, we don't want to, you know, get rid

2097
01:58:11,200 --> 01:58:11,760
Speaker 2: of football.

2098
01:58:13,920 --> 01:58:16,120
Speaker 3: My only question is how wealthy do you have to

2099
01:58:16,160 --> 01:58:19,360
Speaker 3: be to sustain a program for a decade. I just

2100
01:58:19,400 --> 01:58:20,280
Speaker 3: don't know what that numbers.

2101
01:58:20,320 --> 01:58:23,440
Speaker 2: So, but is it would to compete? Like what's your

2102
01:58:23,520 --> 01:58:28,480
Speaker 2: level of competition? Like they may be in the secondary

2103
01:58:28,600 --> 01:58:34,840
Speaker 2: league right, Like there's gonna be two leagues. Well, we'll

2104
01:58:34,840 --> 01:58:38,200
Speaker 2: get into it. We're the Fellas right here. Fox Sports Radio.

2105
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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

2106
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Speaker 2: Ah, good morning, good morning, Come on, good morning, happy,

2107
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Speaker 2: happy happy Fox Sports Saturday. Summer. We're in, uh, we're

2108
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Speaker 2: in summer baby, June seventh, hanging out. School's out soon

2109
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Speaker 2: when school get out? For your right your way up there.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, I've known it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I don't know. I don't have kids.

2112
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Speaker 3: I still see school buses driving around, so like school,

2113
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Speaker 3: school is still going on.

2114
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Speaker 2: I think it's another week. Like my Anthony is high school.

2115
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2116
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2118
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2119
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2124
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2125
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Speaker 2: Brianna and Mighty Mark. We love them and they do

2126
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Speaker 2: a great job. And we'll be talking about the playoffs

2127
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Speaker 2: coming up shortly. The Brain will join us like he

2128
02:00:11,120 --> 02:00:16,680
Speaker 2: does every Saturday around this time to give us some picks,

2129
02:00:17,560 --> 02:00:20,200
Speaker 2: but just to put a rap all the college stuff

2130
02:00:20,200 --> 02:00:24,960
Speaker 2: and the judges ruling yesterday about paying college colleges can

2131
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Speaker 2: pay their athletes directly. We've been talking about how it

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Speaker 2: will impact football and basketball, and you'll see universities pairing

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Speaker 2: down their football programs. Some of them won't have football anymore.

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Speaker 2: I think that's real, but it'll be interesting, FITZI. I

2135
02:00:42,520 --> 02:00:45,760
Speaker 2: do think there'll be a secondary league. Like I think

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Speaker 2: there'll be two leagues, one that's going to compete for

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02:00:49,520 --> 02:00:54,720
Speaker 2: national championships and then the secondary league, which we'll have

2138
02:00:54,800 --> 02:00:59,480
Speaker 2: its own championship that will be televised. That you know, again,

2139
02:00:59,600 --> 02:01:02,720
Speaker 2: TV is a big it's such the biggest, the biggest

2140
02:01:02,800 --> 02:01:07,640
Speaker 2: driver here that they're still gonna want games. So I

2141
02:01:07,680 --> 02:01:11,840
Speaker 2: think you'll have a secondary league almost like you know,

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Speaker 2: the secondary basketball tournaments.

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Speaker 3: The only I guess the reason I'm more skeptical to

2144
02:01:19,440 --> 02:01:24,760
Speaker 3: that is we've already become such a why does anybody

2145
02:01:24,760 --> 02:01:27,400
Speaker 3: care about the n I T Society? And it's so

2146
02:01:27,600 --> 02:01:30,040
Speaker 3: hard to fill some of these stadiums anyway for some

2147
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Speaker 3: of the smaller programs. So if you are one of

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Speaker 3: those teams that you know, all right, what are you

2149
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Speaker 3: fighting for? Are you fighting for a group of five championship?

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Speaker 2: Is?

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Speaker 3: Does that even resonate anymore? In this new would would

2152
02:01:46,440 --> 02:01:47,000
Speaker 3: that resonate?

2153
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Speaker 2: Whatever?

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02:01:47,400 --> 02:01:50,640
Speaker 3: This this relegated league becomes and you can't really call

2155
02:01:50,680 --> 02:01:53,040
Speaker 3: a relegator just choosing not to spend the money on

2156
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Speaker 3: it whatever.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, you know, you're you still have your

2158
02:01:57,960 --> 02:02:03,880
Speaker 2: uh one double a championship those and they spend it

2159
02:02:04,000 --> 02:02:07,080
Speaker 2: costs money to run a program.

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Speaker 3: Sure, but like you're you're right, there's certainly, you know,

2161
02:02:11,000 --> 02:02:14,760
Speaker 3: there's certainly championships to be won at every level of football.

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02:02:15,400 --> 02:02:19,040
Speaker 3: Nobody just tends to give a damn So I question

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02:02:19,440 --> 02:02:22,840
Speaker 3: in ten years these schools that we're talking about that

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02:02:22,880 --> 02:02:25,160
Speaker 3: are sort of on the fringe, once they've become part

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Speaker 3: of this secondary unit, like is that are we are

2166
02:02:29,200 --> 02:02:31,160
Speaker 3: people paying attention to that or does it feel more

2167
02:02:31,160 --> 02:02:33,240
Speaker 3: like the UFL at that point? Like does it feel

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Speaker 3: more like the It's a great question.

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Speaker 2: It's a great question. But you know, you got to

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Speaker 2: find that amount of teams and what's it say when

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02:02:41,960 --> 02:02:46,800
Speaker 2: you have private ownership and there's a lot of there's

2172
02:02:46,920 --> 02:02:48,960
Speaker 2: a you know, there's a lot of people with a

2173
02:02:49,000 --> 02:02:51,800
Speaker 2: lot of money that loves that want to get into sports,

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02:02:51,960 --> 02:02:56,200
Speaker 2: and this will be way more affordable than having an

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Speaker 2: NFL team. So if I'm if I'm a big, you know,

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Speaker 2: big business owner in the South and I'm a wealthy person,

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Speaker 2: and you know, I could I want to turn Memphis

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Speaker 2: football into something I don't know, you know, it's I

2179
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Speaker 2: think I think they'll be I think I'm more optimistic

2180
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Speaker 2: than you are, obviously, And.

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Speaker 3: Let me say, by the way, you're more optimistic about

2182
02:03:24,160 --> 02:03:28,280
Speaker 3: all these other programs maintaining I'm not. I don't think

2183
02:03:28,360 --> 02:03:30,040
Speaker 3: for all the people that sit here and scream, oh

2184
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Speaker 3: my god, this is the death of college football, I

2185
02:03:31,600 --> 02:03:34,880
Speaker 3: don't believe that. I believe that college football is going

2186
02:03:34,920 --> 02:03:36,600
Speaker 3: to look a lot different. I think it's still gonna

2187
02:03:36,600 --> 02:03:38,640
Speaker 3: be stronger than ever, and I still think it's gonna

2188
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Speaker 3: be America's number two sport. I just think it's gonna

2189
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Speaker 3: look a lot like the NFL. And I'm really okay

2190
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Speaker 3: with you, Like I do want to stress that for

2191
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Speaker 3: anyone listening, like if I this sounds really harsh, but

2192
02:03:50,400 --> 02:03:51,840
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna have to be harsh for a second.

2193
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Speaker 3: These schools, and I'm mentioning Memphis, Yukon, even UNLV places

2194
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Speaker 3: like that. I'm talking about from a football stand, football, yeah, Temple.

2195
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Speaker 3: Like if these programs eliminate football in five years, the

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Speaker 3: majority of the college football consciousness won't give it.

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Speaker 2: Damn.

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Speaker 3: They'll still be watching the three forty teams that are

2199
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Speaker 3: in the new version of you know, college.

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Speaker 2: You know, I mean, I don't know, like you know,

2201
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Speaker 2: to your point, there are those fringe schools I do think,

2202
02:04:21,560 --> 02:04:26,320
Speaker 2: I mean of the of the power for I mean,

2203
02:04:27,480 --> 02:04:31,640
Speaker 2: what what programs would be in jeopardy. I mean, I

2204
02:04:31,960 --> 02:04:34,520
Speaker 2: still think that Vanderbilt keeps its team.

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02:04:34,440 --> 02:04:36,880
Speaker 3: Keep it's negative, Andy makes money.

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Speaker 2: I know. Well, let's I'm thinking about lower echelon schools

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Speaker 2: in the SEC. I don't see it. I don't see

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Speaker 2: anybody SEC going anywhere.

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Speaker 3: No, I think the SEC is yeah, I can't be obviously,

2210
02:04:55,320 --> 02:04:58,800
Speaker 3: TV money for the SEC and the Big ten, particularly

2211
02:04:58,840 --> 02:05:00,400
Speaker 3: to help cover a lot of those losses.

2212
02:05:00,440 --> 02:05:02,520
Speaker 2: All right, So then now let's go to the ACC.

2213
02:05:02,920 --> 02:05:05,480
Speaker 3: Although wait, do we think are we one hundred percent

2214
02:05:05,560 --> 02:05:09,200
Speaker 3: sure that like the really the bottom of the bear?

2215
02:05:09,320 --> 02:05:11,520
Speaker 3: Like is cal? I don't know the answer to this.

2216
02:05:11,560 --> 02:05:14,440
Speaker 3: I'm just speculating this. I'm just asking the question, like, yeah,

2217
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Speaker 3: is cal. Uh? You know, when you talk about ACC

2218
02:05:17,680 --> 02:05:22,120
Speaker 3: source schools like Cal Wake Forest.

2219
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Speaker 2: I'd be shocked if if they give up their programs.

2220
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Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you, that would shock. I. Again,

2221
02:05:29,760 --> 02:05:30,720
Speaker 2: the money's.

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Speaker 3: There, Yeah, No, that's that's that's fair. I mean, I

2223
02:05:35,600 --> 02:05:39,880
Speaker 3: think if we're talking about the power for, the money's

2224
02:05:39,920 --> 02:05:42,160
Speaker 3: there for most of them, you know, so maybe to

2225
02:05:42,240 --> 02:05:44,000
Speaker 3: your point, maybe I do have the number way off,

2226
02:05:44,000 --> 02:05:48,360
Speaker 3: because certainly there's what's sixty eight Power four schools, and

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Speaker 3: I can't imagine any of them. I'm looking at the

2228
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Speaker 3: Big twelve right now. I can't imagine there's a Big

2229
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Speaker 3: twelve team that's suddenly just going to decide they don't

2230
02:05:56,000 --> 02:05:56,760
Speaker 3: want to have football.

2231
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Speaker 2: They answer, right there, yeah, yeah, notre name, right, I.

2232
02:06:02,360 --> 02:06:04,120
Speaker 3: Mean, does Purdue keep a football team?

2233
02:06:05,440 --> 02:06:05,880
Speaker 2: Team? Right?

2234
02:06:06,160 --> 02:06:09,760
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, talking about the perennial.

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Speaker 2: Northwestern Purdue, they're keeping football, I would I would think,

2236
02:06:14,880 --> 02:06:17,360
Speaker 2: right yeah. And then and then you were to have

2237
02:06:17,440 --> 02:06:24,560
Speaker 2: a dozen schools with big time you know, big time

2238
02:06:24,760 --> 02:06:30,840
Speaker 2: NFL kind of linkedn lineage, they're gonna there's somebody's gonna

2239
02:06:30,840 --> 02:06:35,360
Speaker 2: go to those schools with an investment into the program.

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Speaker 2: That's the other thing. You'll get investments into a program.

2241
02:06:39,920 --> 02:06:42,600
Speaker 2: You get some you get some x NFL player that

2242
02:06:42,640 --> 02:06:44,320
Speaker 2: wants to be a coach. I mean you see it

2243
02:06:44,400 --> 02:06:49,200
Speaker 2: that with basketball, Jack right, who's the GMS now right?

2244
02:06:49,320 --> 02:06:50,680
Speaker 2: Like you see that stuff?

2245
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's that's absolutely absolutely you're right for

2246
02:06:57,920 --> 02:07:00,600
Speaker 3: a lot of these. As I look the power for

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02:07:00,760 --> 02:07:03,360
Speaker 3: I can't find any power for school that I necessarily

2248
02:07:03,360 --> 02:07:05,160
Speaker 3: think would would walk away from it. You know, it

2249
02:07:05,280 --> 02:07:07,000
Speaker 3: just doesn't It doesn't make a lot of sense. You're right,

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Speaker 3: And if we end up with sixty eighteams like frankly, again,

2251
02:07:11,440 --> 02:07:13,320
Speaker 3: that comes back to how many people are gonna miss

2252
02:07:13,360 --> 02:07:15,880
Speaker 3: the rest? I you know, I don't know. And those

2253
02:07:15,920 --> 02:07:18,040
Speaker 3: schools can figure out what they want to be. If

2254
02:07:18,640 --> 02:07:22,720
Speaker 3: if a Conference USA, like if Middle Tennessee really wants

2255
02:07:22,720 --> 02:07:24,720
Speaker 3: to have football and just loves it so much that

2256
02:07:24,760 --> 02:07:26,760
Speaker 3: they want to find a way to compete, if there's

2257
02:07:26,880 --> 02:07:30,000
Speaker 3: enough of those types of schools, then yeah, they'll they'll

2258
02:07:30,000 --> 02:07:30,560
Speaker 3: find a way and.

2259
02:07:30,680 --> 02:07:32,760
Speaker 2: That will be it. And again, you know what, maybe

2260
02:07:32,800 --> 02:07:34,800
Speaker 2: that and that's the secondary league and you're like, well,

2261
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Speaker 2: who you know, who's who's going to watch? But it's

2262
02:07:38,760 --> 02:07:42,400
Speaker 2: some good flick. Who watches it? Now? Like people watch

2263
02:07:42,440 --> 02:07:46,560
Speaker 2: that stuff, they bet on it, they watch it. That's fair.

2264
02:07:46,920 --> 02:07:49,280
Speaker 2: You throw it on off night, like, yeah, are they

2265
02:07:49,320 --> 02:07:51,960
Speaker 2: going to watch it compared to you know, Ohio State

2266
02:07:52,040 --> 02:07:55,880
Speaker 2: and Georgia. No. But if you throw it all a

2267
02:07:55,960 --> 02:07:58,880
Speaker 2: Tuesday night, why do you think people watch that Max

2268
02:07:58,960 --> 02:08:03,560
Speaker 2: and Max stuff? It's football? Who bets on it? Who

2269
02:08:03,840 --> 02:08:07,160
Speaker 2: does fantasy? Who just likes them? It's just a football

2270
02:08:07,280 --> 02:08:09,640
Speaker 2: junkie just wants to watch it. And by the way,

2271
02:08:10,200 --> 02:08:12,920
Speaker 2: I don't know, like I put it on just to

2272
02:08:13,560 --> 02:08:16,080
Speaker 2: maybe not I watching maction all the time, Like I'm not.

2273
02:08:16,360 --> 02:08:21,040
Speaker 2: I'm not taking notes usually unless there's a player that

2274
02:08:21,080 --> 02:08:23,959
Speaker 2: stands out, but like I have it on his background.

2275
02:08:24,200 --> 02:08:26,640
Speaker 2: You know, I love it. I love a game, So

2276
02:08:27,720 --> 02:08:32,120
Speaker 2: there's I think that there's room for it. I just can't.

2277
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Speaker 3: And maybe it's because the other leagues over the years,

2278
02:08:35,040 --> 02:08:37,960
Speaker 3: like the XFL, have been new and so people don't

2279
02:08:37,960 --> 02:08:41,360
Speaker 3: buy into it as much. I think maybe you're right.

2280
02:08:41,400 --> 02:08:44,360
Speaker 3: Maybe that's where my my logic needs to split, because

2281
02:08:44,360 --> 02:08:46,600
Speaker 3: all I all I think about is secondary leagues don't

2282
02:08:46,640 --> 02:08:49,680
Speaker 3: really work in my mind. But maybe you're right, you know,

2283
02:08:49,760 --> 02:08:53,160
Speaker 3: I mean, certainly we there's a line in the sand

2284
02:08:53,240 --> 02:08:55,959
Speaker 3: that we don't pay attention to. Like nobody's watching Wisconsin

2285
02:08:56,000 --> 02:08:58,520
Speaker 3: Whitewater and it's unfortunate because they won a lot of

2286
02:08:58,560 --> 02:09:01,480
Speaker 3: D three championships, So you're good football program, but nobody

2287
02:09:01,520 --> 02:09:05,120
Speaker 3: watches Wisconsin Whitewater games. Is that simply because of the

2288
02:09:05,680 --> 02:09:08,760
Speaker 3: lack of TV exposure to it, or is that it

2289
02:09:08,840 --> 02:09:10,880
Speaker 3: would it be the same? I don't know, Like will

2290
02:09:10,880 --> 02:09:12,360
Speaker 3: people to name two through.

2291
02:09:12,640 --> 02:09:17,600
Speaker 2: I agree with you. Just nail that TV, soil TV. Yeah,

2292
02:09:17,920 --> 02:09:19,080
Speaker 2: you know, people will watch it.

2293
02:09:19,880 --> 02:09:22,000
Speaker 3: I mean, will people watch the Mountain West? If the

2294
02:09:22,000 --> 02:09:24,320
Speaker 3: Mountain West has absolutely no shot at the college football

2295
02:09:24,320 --> 02:09:26,000
Speaker 3: playoff and it's considered a different.

2296
02:09:25,800 --> 02:09:26,920
Speaker 2: League, they have no shot.

2297
02:09:27,000 --> 02:09:30,320
Speaker 3: Now yeah, well, I mean you're right, you're right. I

2298
02:09:30,360 --> 02:09:32,120
Speaker 3: mean they have that outside well the highest one.

2299
02:09:32,920 --> 02:09:34,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but you're right on No, you're right.

2300
02:09:35,120 --> 02:09:37,640
Speaker 3: I will say, By the way, the numbers I found

2301
02:09:37,640 --> 02:09:38,760
Speaker 3: the numbers on the Madden thing.

2302
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Speaker 2: By the way, I don't want to. Yeah, explain to

2303
02:09:41,760 --> 02:09:44,880
Speaker 2: me a favor, Explain how this works and why they're

2304
02:09:44,920 --> 02:09:45,360
Speaker 2: doing this.

2305
02:09:46,120 --> 02:09:49,240
Speaker 3: So Madden has decided with the new EA College Sports

2306
02:09:49,320 --> 02:09:52,400
Speaker 3: twenty six game that they are going to pay universities

2307
02:09:52,400 --> 02:09:55,200
Speaker 3: for the usage of their name, image likeness based on

2308
02:09:55,240 --> 02:09:59,600
Speaker 3: a royalty system that's directly tied to how often teams

2309
02:09:59,600 --> 02:10:01,960
Speaker 3: are you used in gameplay. They think it's a more

2310
02:10:02,040 --> 02:10:04,760
Speaker 3: fair way to do it, so they're going to pay

2311
02:10:04,840 --> 02:10:08,400
Speaker 3: on a scale. So this is the quote and this

2312
02:10:08,440 --> 02:10:12,200
Speaker 3: game from a Freedom of Information Act request that actually

2313
02:10:12,280 --> 02:10:15,160
Speaker 3: Yahoo's able to get, and it says for each college

2314
02:10:15,160 --> 02:10:19,120
Speaker 3: football product released, they'll provide a percentage for each institution

2315
02:10:19,320 --> 02:10:21,560
Speaker 3: based on the game played for that institution is a

2316
02:10:21,600 --> 02:10:24,560
Speaker 3: percentage of the total games played across all institutions. So

2317
02:10:24,640 --> 02:10:27,800
Speaker 3: here's the sample scenario to make it very easy. Total

2318
02:10:27,880 --> 02:10:31,360
Speaker 3: royalties five million dollars for the whole game. Right, they'll

2319
02:10:31,400 --> 02:10:34,400
Speaker 3: be a They can now track exactly how many games

2320
02:10:34,400 --> 02:10:36,160
Speaker 3: have been played because of the way it's all done

2321
02:10:36,160 --> 02:10:39,920
Speaker 3: online now, so is seven hundred million games. Let's say

2322
02:10:39,920 --> 02:10:43,320
Speaker 3: one team gets seven million of those games. That means

2323
02:10:43,320 --> 02:10:45,440
Speaker 3: they would get one percent of the allocation. They would

2324
02:10:45,440 --> 02:10:49,600
Speaker 3: get fifty thousand dollars. So it's a it's a way

2325
02:10:49,640 --> 02:10:51,840
Speaker 3: to tie it into the success. But it means that

2326
02:10:51,920 --> 02:10:54,040
Speaker 3: if you as a fan, if you're just sitting there

2327
02:10:54,080 --> 02:10:55,680
Speaker 3: and you're like, oh man, I'm.

2328
02:10:55,280 --> 02:10:55,920
Speaker 2: A balls fan.

2329
02:10:56,040 --> 02:10:57,880
Speaker 3: So you play a season as the Balls and you're like,

2330
02:10:57,920 --> 02:11:00,000
Speaker 3: that was fun. I don't want to play another season,

2331
02:11:00,000 --> 02:11:01,280
Speaker 3: and there's the vaalse. Now I'm gonna play as a

2332
02:11:01,280 --> 02:11:03,920
Speaker 3: different team. So now I'm gonna pick Fandy because I

2333
02:11:04,000 --> 02:11:05,680
Speaker 3: live in Nashville and I want to make the other

2334
02:11:05,760 --> 02:11:08,880
Speaker 3: national team understand that what you're doing now is you're

2335
02:11:08,880 --> 02:11:12,160
Speaker 3: actually costing your favorite team football money that we go

2336
02:11:12,200 --> 02:11:14,800
Speaker 3: to their football program every time you play as a team,

2337
02:11:15,360 --> 02:11:18,640
Speaker 3: not your favorite team, you're basically putting money in somebody

2338
02:11:18,640 --> 02:11:22,760
Speaker 3: else's coffer. It's a very unique system that, because of

2339
02:11:22,800 --> 02:11:26,440
Speaker 3: the ability to track the game online, will actually tie in.

2340
02:11:26,680 --> 02:11:30,080
Speaker 3: So even when you're scheduling, Like if you're sitting here

2341
02:11:30,120 --> 02:11:33,280
Speaker 3: and you're a Michigan fan and you schedule Michigan State

2342
02:11:33,400 --> 02:11:35,200
Speaker 3: on your excuse, you can go in on the game

2343
02:11:35,240 --> 02:11:37,960
Speaker 3: and change your schedule. When you play that Michigan State game,

2344
02:11:38,040 --> 02:11:40,480
Speaker 3: you're actually making Michigan State fractions of a cent and

2345
02:11:40,640 --> 02:11:42,640
Speaker 3: all will go into a royalty pile because that's a

2346
02:11:42,680 --> 02:11:45,280
Speaker 3: game that involves Michigan State even as your opponents. So

2347
02:11:45,960 --> 02:11:50,280
Speaker 3: it's real. It's revolutionary. But I would say, is somebody

2348
02:11:50,280 --> 02:11:52,720
Speaker 3: that plays these games all the time? That part of

2349
02:11:52,760 --> 02:11:55,040
Speaker 3: the fun from the college football standpoint, where I don't

2350
02:11:55,040 --> 02:11:57,120
Speaker 3: have the same like I always play as the Raiders

2351
02:11:57,200 --> 02:11:59,480
Speaker 3: are Madden, that that never changes. But when you play

2352
02:11:59,480 --> 02:12:01,760
Speaker 3: college foot well, to me, part of the fun is saying, Okay,

2353
02:12:02,040 --> 02:12:04,600
Speaker 3: what's the worst program I can turn into a national

2354
02:12:04,720 --> 02:12:09,240
Speaker 3: championship contender. When you're doing that, you're actually no longer

2355
02:12:09,320 --> 02:12:12,920
Speaker 3: earning money for your favorite team. It's a wild concept

2356
02:12:12,960 --> 02:12:15,280
Speaker 3: to wrap your head around, but it also reminds us

2357
02:12:15,320 --> 02:12:18,400
Speaker 3: that even the college football landscape is accepting that the

2358
02:12:18,440 --> 02:12:21,000
Speaker 3: haves and the have nots are being separated and literally

2359
02:12:21,040 --> 02:12:22,080
Speaker 3: everything that happens.

2360
02:12:23,360 --> 02:12:27,800
Speaker 2: That's wild. Man, that's crazy, very very crazy. That's crazy.

2361
02:12:28,720 --> 02:12:33,800
Speaker 2: Great story though, man, it's interesting times. Really is fascinating stuff.

2362
02:12:34,480 --> 02:12:36,520
Speaker 3: And I do think it's important to stress you and

2363
02:12:36,560 --> 02:12:39,320
Speaker 3: I love college football, and you and I agree that

2364
02:12:39,480 --> 02:12:43,160
Speaker 3: college football is not dying. College football is not going away,

2365
02:12:43,400 --> 02:12:45,920
Speaker 3: college football is not having this Oh my god, it's

2366
02:12:45,920 --> 02:12:48,480
Speaker 3: company of the sport in the future. I think college

2367
02:12:48,480 --> 02:12:51,920
Speaker 3: football is healthier than ever. And the numbers for the

2368
02:12:51,960 --> 02:12:53,800
Speaker 3: majority of last year, not for the playoffs, but the

2369
02:12:53,840 --> 02:12:56,560
Speaker 3: number for the majority of last year showed that. I

2370
02:12:57,000 --> 02:12:59,680
Speaker 3: just I think at the end of the day, all

2371
02:12:59,720 --> 02:13:02,400
Speaker 3: of this junk we're talking about now will not matter

2372
02:13:02,480 --> 02:13:05,280
Speaker 3: to a single person once we get into September and

2373
02:13:05,320 --> 02:13:07,960
Speaker 3: we have the chance to actually watch college football games.

2374
02:13:08,160 --> 02:13:10,320
Speaker 2: That's right. I mean, it's only gonna matter to the

2375
02:13:10,400 --> 02:13:12,880
Speaker 2: kids who are playing, who are going to get paid.

2376
02:13:14,720 --> 02:13:18,160
Speaker 2: I mean, that's it. You know, ultimately, you're still your

2377
02:13:18,240 --> 02:13:22,600
Speaker 2: team is still going to be your team, and you

2378
02:13:22,640 --> 02:13:26,360
Speaker 2: know the haves already are haves or you know who

2379
02:13:26,400 --> 02:13:29,800
Speaker 2: they are and who are vying for a national title?

2380
02:13:30,400 --> 02:13:35,440
Speaker 2: It really is. It's it's so interesting. Well, we'll come back.

2381
02:13:35,800 --> 02:13:37,960
Speaker 2: Let's take it quick to you a lot of the brain,

2382
02:13:38,040 --> 02:13:41,000
Speaker 2: but I want to dive into We'll do with him too.

2383
02:13:41,440 --> 02:13:46,320
Speaker 2: We'll dive into it. Fitzy the NBA tomorrow. I how

2384
02:13:46,360 --> 02:13:49,040
Speaker 2: we're looking at at game two. We talked a lot

2385
02:13:49,080 --> 02:13:52,320
Speaker 2: about it earlier and then we got a gush over

2386
02:13:53,800 --> 02:13:57,440
Speaker 2: this NHL again. I'm sorry, I'm freaking well. We love it,

2387
02:13:57,480 --> 02:14:00,400
Speaker 2: fifty and I love it. I was always up up

2388
02:14:00,440 --> 02:14:02,360
Speaker 2: there watching the game with you. Man. That was uh,

2389
02:14:03,120 --> 02:14:04,800
Speaker 2: that was umble. Did you stay the whole time in

2390
02:14:04,880 --> 02:14:10,960
Speaker 2: the bar? No? No, no double overtime? I know, yeah, yeah, yeah,

2391
02:14:10,960 --> 02:14:13,880
Speaker 2: I hear there was a five, But you remember the

2392
02:14:13,880 --> 02:14:19,840
Speaker 2: five overtime playoff game, kadya. It was Flyers Penguins. I

2393
02:14:19,920 --> 02:14:24,440
Speaker 2: was in a bar and two o'clock the bars closed

2394
02:14:24,440 --> 02:14:29,600
Speaker 2: in Philadelphia, so two o'clock it was like the start

2395
02:14:29,760 --> 02:14:33,240
Speaker 2: of the Still it was still in the fourth overtime,

2396
02:14:34,080 --> 02:14:38,240
Speaker 2: and the bartenders like, listen, I'll let I'm just gonna

2397
02:14:38,240 --> 02:14:41,200
Speaker 2: lock the door, but I'll make sure you guys can stay,

2398
02:14:42,480 --> 02:14:46,040
Speaker 2: and like nobody was gonna leave, so we stayed for

2399
02:14:46,080 --> 02:14:51,760
Speaker 2: another forty five minutes, and you know it was it

2400
02:14:51,800 --> 02:14:54,840
Speaker 2: was you know, they still you know, they still served us.

2401
02:14:54,840 --> 02:14:56,480
Speaker 2: What's boast of me? He's like, I got you. I

2402
02:14:56,520 --> 02:15:00,520
Speaker 2: got you because we were gonna sit there, We're having

2403
02:15:00,480 --> 02:15:04,240
Speaker 2: another beer, you know what I mean? All right, well,

2404
02:15:04,240 --> 02:15:05,960
Speaker 2: we'll take quick to you. We'll come back, we'll talk

2405
02:15:05,960 --> 02:15:10,360
Speaker 2: about the playoffs, Fellas Jason fitz Anthony Garganta right here

2406
02:15:10,680 --> 02:15:12,400
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio.

2407
02:15:13,120 --> 02:15:16,000
Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

2408
02:15:16,040 --> 02:15:19,400
Speaker 4: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio

2409
02:15:19,560 --> 02:15:23,640
Speaker 4: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to

2410
02:15:23,760 --> 02:15:24,400
Speaker 4: listen live.

2411
02:15:26,680 --> 02:15:37,040
Speaker 2: Fellas Jason Fitz Fits Anthony Gargano hanging out with you guys.

2412
02:15:37,840 --> 02:15:44,800
Speaker 2: On a Saturday, June the seventh, I believe, ninety ninety

2413
02:15:44,880 --> 02:15:49,440
Speaker 2: seven days to the start of the NFL season, we're

2414
02:15:49,480 --> 02:15:53,000
Speaker 2: winding down NBA, NHL, joining us to break down that

2415
02:15:53,400 --> 02:15:58,040
Speaker 2: some baseball, like he does each week from a betting standpoint,

2416
02:15:58,720 --> 02:16:03,120
Speaker 2: the brain, uh brain, Before we get to that stuff.

2417
02:16:04,880 --> 02:16:07,600
Speaker 2: How incredible was that game last night?

2418
02:16:08,360 --> 02:16:10,440
Speaker 6: It was one of the best games I've seen. I mean,

2419
02:16:10,600 --> 02:16:12,560
Speaker 6: you may think that type of probably, I just that

2420
02:16:12,640 --> 02:16:17,400
Speaker 6: was amazing. I was like so like just like just

2421
02:16:17,640 --> 02:16:21,320
Speaker 6: enthralled by it. It was unbelievable, unbelievable.

2422
02:16:21,520 --> 02:16:24,280
Speaker 3: The fitcy that were gusting, right, Yeah, I mean this

2423
02:16:24,400 --> 02:16:27,520
Speaker 3: is this is one of the best series I think

2424
02:16:27,520 --> 02:16:30,720
Speaker 3: we could ever. It's fair to save two games in overtime,

2425
02:16:30,800 --> 02:16:33,840
Speaker 3: double overtime, there's got to be. It was pacing to

2426
02:16:33,879 --> 02:16:35,720
Speaker 3: be the greatest standing Cup final of all time. And

2427
02:16:35,720 --> 02:16:38,320
Speaker 3: it's a rematch from last year. Like this, just this,

2428
02:16:38,320 --> 02:16:42,760
Speaker 3: this series is so incredible for the sport and for

2429
02:16:42,879 --> 02:16:45,440
Speaker 3: fans and just it's the best of the best of

2430
02:16:45,480 --> 02:16:47,320
Speaker 3: the highest quality of hockey all at once.

2431
02:16:48,480 --> 02:16:52,920
Speaker 6: To me, watching Hagler Herts accept in hockey, it was unbelievable.

2432
02:16:52,959 --> 02:16:54,920
Speaker 2: Great analogy, it really was.

2433
02:16:55,040 --> 02:16:58,760
Speaker 6: And and just watching like the man it's funny sitching

2434
02:16:58,760 --> 02:17:02,720
Speaker 6: that first overtime. I god, Florida had like so many

2435
02:17:02,840 --> 02:17:05,679
Speaker 6: chances to you know what I mean, like the breakaways

2436
02:17:05,680 --> 02:17:07,360
Speaker 6: and one I know what's crazy is the way the

2437
02:17:07,360 --> 02:17:11,879
Speaker 6: game ended. You know, marshn really barely even it was

2438
02:17:11,920 --> 02:17:13,320
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, It was almost like such

2439
02:17:13,320 --> 02:17:15,560
Speaker 6: a weird ending. Yeah it was a breakaway, but he

2440
02:17:15,560 --> 02:17:17,959
Speaker 6: he didn't even really shoot the puck, you know, it

2441
02:17:18,040 --> 02:17:20,960
Speaker 6: was just just you wouldn't have thought that out of

2442
02:17:21,000 --> 02:17:22,840
Speaker 6: the way the end that was the last man. But

2443
02:17:23,760 --> 02:17:25,959
Speaker 6: I thought it was a phenomenal game. Absolutely, It's been

2444
02:17:26,000 --> 02:17:29,640
Speaker 6: incredible series. I mean, the level of play has been

2445
02:17:29,680 --> 02:17:32,000
Speaker 6: incredible and just a dude.

2446
02:17:31,760 --> 02:17:35,840
Speaker 2: How about just watching him like he's he's mc jesus,

2447
02:17:36,200 --> 02:17:41,920
Speaker 2: He's unbelievable what he does, my god, between the legs

2448
02:17:41,959 --> 02:17:44,400
Speaker 2: of the passes that he makes. He set out the

2449
02:17:44,400 --> 02:17:48,160
Speaker 2: game winner in game one, I mean, uh, which was

2450
02:17:48,680 --> 02:17:50,760
Speaker 2: to Corey, which is unbelievable.

2451
02:17:51,920 --> 02:17:55,000
Speaker 6: Really was again, can't an, I can't. I could not

2452
02:17:55,120 --> 02:18:00,760
Speaker 6: agree with you more. I mean, it's just absolutely incredible stuff. Again,

2453
02:18:00,840 --> 02:18:04,119
Speaker 6: I don't recall enjoying it like a two games more.

2454
02:18:04,520 --> 02:18:07,080
Speaker 6: I mean I'm sure maybe that have been, but I've

2455
02:18:07,120 --> 02:18:09,360
Speaker 6: enjoyed more than these two games back to back. I

2456
02:18:09,400 --> 02:18:13,560
Speaker 6: thought they were that good, that incredible that like again,

2457
02:18:13,640 --> 02:18:15,960
Speaker 6: I just didn't want to take my eyes off it.

2458
02:18:15,959 --> 02:18:17,359
Speaker 6: It was. It was phenomenal stuff.

2459
02:18:18,560 --> 02:18:21,120
Speaker 3: Is there anything that you've seen through two games that

2460
02:18:21,320 --> 02:18:24,080
Speaker 3: makes you think there's a trend worth betting moving forward

2461
02:18:24,120 --> 02:18:24,720
Speaker 3: in the series?

2462
02:18:27,680 --> 02:18:31,040
Speaker 6: You know, I mean, I guess just I mean, maybe

2463
02:18:31,080 --> 02:18:37,720
Speaker 6: just this sheer skill of the players that maybe again

2464
02:18:37,959 --> 02:18:40,840
Speaker 6: the totals freaking high. I mean, the total is six

2465
02:18:40,879 --> 02:18:44,560
Speaker 6: and a half, which is just high. And I just

2466
02:18:44,680 --> 02:18:47,720
Speaker 6: maybe that these teams so good, just and skilled that

2467
02:18:48,240 --> 02:18:50,760
Speaker 6: you know, both teams should score three goals maybe and

2468
02:18:50,800 --> 02:18:53,440
Speaker 6: then you know, maybe this maybe lean over, which I

2469
02:18:53,480 --> 02:18:57,400
Speaker 6: usually don't like doing. But as I said, I'm just

2470
02:18:58,040 --> 02:19:01,800
Speaker 6: these games really when they'm these really all probably in reality,

2471
02:19:01,840 --> 02:19:03,640
Speaker 6: just fifty fifty games, like you know what I mean.

2472
02:19:03,720 --> 02:19:06,640
Speaker 6: Like it's like I don't think hoole mice means anything.

2473
02:19:06,720 --> 02:19:10,600
Speaker 6: I think it's just it'ld be so tight. You know,

2474
02:19:10,680 --> 02:19:12,080
Speaker 6: who gets that break?

2475
02:19:12,120 --> 02:19:12,320
Speaker 2: Who?

2476
02:19:12,360 --> 02:19:14,119
Speaker 6: Don't you know what I mean? Who commits a man

2477
02:19:14,240 --> 02:19:15,080
Speaker 6: cost a penalty?

2478
02:19:15,360 --> 02:19:15,520
Speaker 2: Uh?

2479
02:19:15,800 --> 02:19:17,160
Speaker 6: But just an incredible series.

2480
02:19:17,400 --> 02:19:20,640
Speaker 2: Well you said it about the about the total. I

2481
02:19:20,840 --> 02:19:25,360
Speaker 2: tell you, I think that's legitimate because the goaltending has

2482
02:19:25,360 --> 02:19:29,960
Speaker 2: been excellent, Like it sounds crazy. There were five goals

2483
02:19:30,000 --> 02:19:32,400
Speaker 2: in the first period, but there were no cheap cords

2484
02:19:33,240 --> 02:19:36,520
Speaker 2: right at all? I mean, I mean, and by the way,

2485
02:19:37,040 --> 02:19:41,840
Speaker 2: both Skinner and Bob have taken turns standing on their

2486
02:19:41,959 --> 02:19:45,040
Speaker 2: head man like we don't stand on the heads like

2487
02:19:45,280 --> 02:19:49,760
Speaker 2: they've had. Flower's made great saves, like ridiculous saves.

2488
02:19:50,560 --> 02:19:53,640
Speaker 6: Oh listen, I'm with you one hundred percent. I say

2489
02:19:53,680 --> 02:19:56,240
Speaker 6: it the same way, and it was just again, it's

2490
02:19:56,280 --> 02:19:59,480
Speaker 6: been It's been incredible. Un listen, also got only one

2491
02:19:59,520 --> 02:20:01,080
Speaker 6: game out, he's going to be like this, but we

2492
02:20:01,160 --> 02:20:03,560
Speaker 6: could get guys a great first game in the NBA

2493
02:20:03,640 --> 02:20:06,120
Speaker 6: finals as well, at least to the way end of

2494
02:20:06,160 --> 02:20:09,440
Speaker 6: it was. It wasn't the wall to wall like NonStop

2495
02:20:09,520 --> 02:20:12,280
Speaker 6: drama like the NHL. But you know, at least she

2496
02:20:12,360 --> 02:20:15,440
Speaker 6: got a crazy or exciting ending. So at least, you know,

2497
02:20:15,600 --> 02:20:18,160
Speaker 6: so far for these two sports, they've at least gotten

2498
02:20:18,280 --> 02:20:20,520
Speaker 6: three games, and I'm sure that they're all like pretty

2499
02:20:20,920 --> 02:20:21,680
Speaker 6: pretty happy with.

2500
02:20:22,280 --> 02:20:26,280
Speaker 2: Well you mentioned that, Yeah, the NBA game.

2501
02:20:26,480 --> 02:20:29,720
Speaker 3: I've been anxious to ask you about this because live

2502
02:20:29,760 --> 02:20:33,039
Speaker 3: betting is what so much of us are doing in general,

2503
02:20:33,080 --> 02:20:35,680
Speaker 3: and it's the right approach. Ye, live betting against the

2504
02:20:35,680 --> 02:20:38,280
Speaker 3: Pacers just seems like it's the wrong approach. Like what

2505
02:20:38,280 --> 02:20:40,720
Speaker 3: are we supposed to make about this Indiana thing?

2506
02:20:41,720 --> 02:20:41,959
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2507
02:20:42,000 --> 02:20:43,760
Speaker 6: I mean listening as you said, like, if you've been

2508
02:20:43,840 --> 02:20:46,160
Speaker 6: my O being against Indiana, man, you better check your

2509
02:20:46,160 --> 02:20:48,879
Speaker 6: bank account. Are you still suck? They have money up

2510
02:20:48,959 --> 02:20:51,560
Speaker 6: to go out to dinner still? Because you're right, they

2511
02:20:51,600 --> 02:20:54,320
Speaker 6: have just been coming back left, right and up the middle.

2512
02:20:54,840 --> 02:20:59,320
Speaker 6: It's been incredibly impressed. It's incredibly impressive. Uh and it's

2513
02:20:59,360 --> 02:21:01,039
Speaker 6: like almost like one of those I mean, they keep

2514
02:21:01,040 --> 02:21:07,519
Speaker 6: breaking fifty like every every max you know, geek probability,

2515
02:21:07,600 --> 02:21:09,039
Speaker 6: like you know, here, what are the chances of this

2516
02:21:09,160 --> 02:21:11,240
Speaker 6: where there's no way, there's no way, there's no way,

2517
02:21:12,200 --> 02:21:15,560
Speaker 6: and you know, it's just they just keep doing it.

2518
02:21:15,600 --> 02:21:17,440
Speaker 6: Now again, I will say this, it's easier to come

2519
02:21:17,480 --> 02:21:20,640
Speaker 6: back today than don't win any time there's ever did,

2520
02:21:20,840 --> 02:21:23,400
Speaker 6: right because the advent of the three and the way

2521
02:21:23,440 --> 02:21:28,440
Speaker 6: it's become so just ingrained in the world today as

2522
02:21:28,480 --> 02:21:31,080
Speaker 6: opposed to like fifteen years ago, teams weren't shooting threes

2523
02:21:31,160 --> 02:21:33,879
Speaker 6: like this now the way they shoot threes, it's just

2524
02:21:34,080 --> 02:21:37,920
Speaker 6: it's easier to come back. But again, all the credit

2525
02:21:38,000 --> 02:21:40,320
Speaker 6: to Indiana and Anty I know, I me and you've

2526
02:21:40,360 --> 02:21:42,920
Speaker 6: discussed it with O Caasee as good as they are,

2527
02:21:42,959 --> 02:21:47,720
Speaker 6: get stuck in the half court. Very pedestrian team, very pedestrian,

2528
02:21:47,760 --> 02:21:49,520
Speaker 6: which is why I don't deserve this team anywhere near

2529
02:21:49,840 --> 02:21:52,680
Speaker 6: an all time great team. You know, their numbers should

2530
02:21:52,720 --> 02:21:54,160
Speaker 6: say that they are. I don't put them in a

2531
02:21:54,200 --> 02:21:58,000
Speaker 6: category of like those warrior teams, those bulls teams, Lakers teams,

2532
02:21:59,080 --> 02:22:02,120
Speaker 6: heat teams with bron Spurs teams. I don't put him

2533
02:22:02,120 --> 02:22:05,880
Speaker 6: anywhere near that group because those teams wouldn't struggle like

2534
02:22:05,920 --> 02:22:06,480
Speaker 6: Batman court.

2535
02:22:06,600 --> 02:22:10,480
Speaker 2: Well, the problem is they go when it turns half

2536
02:22:10,520 --> 02:22:14,280
Speaker 2: court like you saw it, you know when in the

2537
02:22:14,360 --> 02:22:16,680
Speaker 2: end hit those streets the top, it hits the three

2538
02:22:17,920 --> 02:22:21,040
Speaker 2: to cut it to seven or four, and then they

2539
02:22:21,080 --> 02:22:25,200
Speaker 2: cut it to one. And each of those possessions as

2540
02:22:25,280 --> 02:22:29,720
Speaker 2: the lead was dwindling, each of those half court possessions

2541
02:22:30,240 --> 02:22:32,560
Speaker 2: were just SGA trying to break down his man.

2542
02:22:34,440 --> 02:22:39,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's exactly correct. I mean, that is exactly exactly,

2543
02:22:39,560 --> 02:22:43,560
Speaker 6: exactly correct. And I getting a lot of pressure on him,

2544
02:22:43,640 --> 02:22:47,720
Speaker 6: for sure, because he doesn't have for him like I

2545
02:22:47,840 --> 02:22:51,040
Speaker 6: thought that Jalen Williams was. For sure, hopefully can be

2546
02:22:51,120 --> 02:22:54,039
Speaker 6: that like Robin Tis Batman, but I don't know.

2547
02:22:54,200 --> 02:22:57,080
Speaker 2: I mean no, And that's the point because a couple

2548
02:22:57,120 --> 02:22:59,640
Speaker 2: of times he missed, like he missed a couple of

2549
02:22:59,760 --> 02:23:03,840
Speaker 2: dry Yeah, it's like, dude, you got to make that

2550
02:23:04,000 --> 02:23:06,840
Speaker 2: man wall was a bunny and then the other one

2551
02:23:07,080 --> 02:23:10,000
Speaker 2: he had a wide open three. SGA sent them up nicely.

2552
02:23:10,800 --> 02:23:14,600
Speaker 2: You gotta know if he knocks that down that's ballgame,

2553
02:23:15,120 --> 02:23:19,640
Speaker 2: Like somebody has to step up all because SGA delivers,

2554
02:23:19,680 --> 02:23:22,959
Speaker 2: man and they collapse on them. Somebody else is to

2555
02:23:23,000 --> 02:23:23,640
Speaker 2: make shots.

2556
02:23:25,040 --> 02:23:27,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's again, it's listened at the end of the day.

2557
02:23:27,600 --> 02:23:31,360
Speaker 6: It's like in sports and the biggest moments, right, either

2558
02:23:31,440 --> 02:23:35,640
Speaker 6: you get it done or you don't. Uh, And if

2559
02:23:35,680 --> 02:23:38,720
Speaker 6: you don't, I mean that's just you know, the only

2560
02:23:38,760 --> 02:23:43,720
Speaker 6: you're gonna feel that pain. And Okay, see now this

2561
02:23:43,800 --> 02:23:45,480
Speaker 6: they lost to Denver game I don't I think I

2562
02:23:45,520 --> 02:23:46,680
Speaker 6: think it was a game one of.

2563
02:23:46,600 --> 02:23:47,440
Speaker 2: The Denver series.

2564
02:23:47,760 --> 02:23:49,760
Speaker 6: Remember they were up. I think they were up like

2565
02:23:50,120 --> 02:23:53,240
Speaker 6: fifteen late and they blew that one and Denver was

2566
02:23:53,280 --> 02:23:56,000
Speaker 6: never winning and Aaron Gordon hit that great three and

2567
02:23:56,040 --> 02:23:59,000
Speaker 6: then this game they're winning for forty seven minutes fifty

2568
02:23:59,080 --> 02:24:04,880
Speaker 6: nine seconds seven And yeah, it's just you'd never want

2569
02:24:04,879 --> 02:24:06,760
Speaker 6: to lose these kind of playoff games. It's I mean,

2570
02:24:06,800 --> 02:24:10,240
Speaker 6: obviously I'm captain obvious there, but it hurts. Now they

2571
02:24:10,280 --> 02:24:12,240
Speaker 6: have to go. They have to win the best seven.

2572
02:24:12,240 --> 02:24:14,320
Speaker 6: They got to win five games, not four, because they

2573
02:24:14,400 --> 02:24:17,000
Speaker 6: won game one. They want it, did everything, kept showing

2574
02:24:17,040 --> 02:24:19,760
Speaker 6: the scoreboard. They want it, so, you know, but I

2575
02:24:19,800 --> 02:24:22,040
Speaker 6: think they're good enough to do it. But obviously, you know,

2576
02:24:22,400 --> 02:24:26,080
Speaker 6: Indiana's been underrated, and I do give them credit.

2577
02:24:26,760 --> 02:24:30,800
Speaker 3: Is there is there some logic that you can take

2578
02:24:30,840 --> 02:24:34,120
Speaker 3: from game one into game two, like how much transfers in?

2579
02:24:34,200 --> 02:24:36,640
Speaker 3: How much adjustment do you expect like when you're betting it,

2580
02:24:36,879 --> 02:24:39,520
Speaker 3: how much do you have to sort of hold your

2581
02:24:39,520 --> 02:24:40,760
Speaker 3: strategy for game two.

2582
02:24:41,560 --> 02:24:44,840
Speaker 6: Well, the one thing I'll say is, well, it's interesting.

2583
02:24:45,080 --> 02:24:47,400
Speaker 6: One of the advantages I think fifty that okac's had

2584
02:24:47,760 --> 02:24:52,240
Speaker 6: throughout these playoffs, right is anytime their bench was on

2585
02:24:52,360 --> 02:24:58,240
Speaker 6: or whatnot, they anytime they're they always have a good

2586
02:24:58,280 --> 02:25:00,840
Speaker 6: player from the court. Ok see something it faced teams

2587
02:25:00,840 --> 02:25:03,440
Speaker 6: that when their bench was on the court, there wasn't

2588
02:25:03,480 --> 02:25:06,160
Speaker 6: always five good productive players in the court because you

2589
02:25:06,200 --> 02:25:08,200
Speaker 6: have to rest guys at certain points in the game.

2590
02:25:08,840 --> 02:25:11,520
Speaker 6: Indiana is the only team in the NBA, in my opinion,

2591
02:25:11,959 --> 02:25:14,440
Speaker 6: where their bench is as good, maybe even better than

2592
02:25:14,440 --> 02:25:16,720
Speaker 6: the OKC where they always and they always have a

2593
02:25:16,720 --> 02:25:19,760
Speaker 6: good player on the court. And we saw with top

2594
02:25:19,800 --> 02:25:24,240
Speaker 6: In and with McConnell those guys play really really well,

2595
02:25:24,280 --> 02:25:27,320
Speaker 6: which I don't think other teams have pressured them with

2596
02:25:27,400 --> 02:25:30,320
Speaker 6: their bench ever in any of these series where they

2597
02:25:30,320 --> 02:25:32,400
Speaker 6: could be like Okay, when we have our non starters in,

2598
02:25:32,840 --> 02:25:35,440
Speaker 6: we can maybe not only not lose, we can maybe

2599
02:25:35,480 --> 02:25:37,640
Speaker 6: even zoom past you with our bench. And I think

2600
02:25:37,680 --> 02:25:41,920
Speaker 6: we saw that the Pacers bench was productive, and maybe

2601
02:25:41,920 --> 02:25:43,240
Speaker 6: I think that's a little bit of a different thing

2602
02:25:43,280 --> 02:25:46,080
Speaker 6: that OKAC hasn't faced as well, that they're actually facing

2603
02:25:46,080 --> 02:25:50,800
Speaker 6: a team that you know, their depth is actually matched here.

2604
02:25:51,040 --> 02:25:53,280
Speaker 6: And again I do think that OKAC is the better team.

2605
02:25:53,320 --> 02:25:57,400
Speaker 6: They will eventually win, but Indiana can hang in terms

2606
02:25:57,440 --> 02:25:58,720
Speaker 6: of having good quality players.

2607
02:25:59,160 --> 02:26:03,920
Speaker 2: So how do you kind of approached this thing? Now? Well,

2608
02:26:03,920 --> 02:26:08,000
Speaker 2: they gave Yeah, it's like like even they got a

2609
02:26:08,040 --> 02:26:10,560
Speaker 2: blood Like they were a couple of do you use

2610
02:26:11,040 --> 02:26:13,480
Speaker 2: the boxing nowgy, there were a couple of shots away

2611
02:26:13,480 --> 02:26:19,840
Speaker 2: from knocking the mout right the leads like eighteen twenty.

2612
02:26:20,200 --> 02:26:21,440
Speaker 2: Now they can't come back.

2613
02:26:22,120 --> 02:26:25,520
Speaker 6: Well, here's the thing right now, right, who's everyone in

2614
02:26:25,560 --> 02:26:27,680
Speaker 6: their grandmother's going to want to play? Okay? See it right?

2615
02:26:28,120 --> 02:26:30,840
Speaker 6: I get it, Like it's like, how could you not

2616
02:26:30,920 --> 02:26:31,360
Speaker 6: want to play?

2617
02:26:31,360 --> 02:26:31,640
Speaker 3: Okay?

2618
02:26:31,720 --> 02:26:38,240
Speaker 6: See, they must win at home game two? They cannot

2619
02:26:38,240 --> 02:26:40,360
Speaker 6: lose this game obviously. Well I shouldn't say that they

2620
02:26:40,360 --> 02:26:43,800
Speaker 6: actually still probably could, but realistically it will be very difficult.

2621
02:26:43,800 --> 02:26:45,920
Speaker 6: If they do lose, it will not be something ideal.

2622
02:26:45,959 --> 02:26:47,760
Speaker 6: And you figure they're going to win the game, so

2623
02:26:47,800 --> 02:26:49,840
Speaker 6: everyone's going over to play them. Now that game one

2624
02:26:49,879 --> 02:26:54,039
Speaker 6: on Anthony opened eight and a half, nine closed. It's

2625
02:26:54,080 --> 02:26:57,800
Speaker 6: high than but mostly nine's okay. So this game got

2626
02:26:57,840 --> 02:27:00,600
Speaker 6: to eleven and a half, okay because you're getting taxed,

2627
02:27:01,160 --> 02:27:04,760
Speaker 6: taxed to the heavens if you want to take Okay,

2628
02:27:04,760 --> 02:27:06,560
Speaker 6: see now it's been bet back down to eleven. I

2629
02:27:06,600 --> 02:27:09,800
Speaker 6: thought it was liger to twelve. I really did. And

2630
02:27:10,280 --> 02:27:11,760
Speaker 6: if it went to twelve, I was going to make

2631
02:27:11,800 --> 02:27:15,040
Speaker 6: a get my feet in the pool and for sure

2632
02:27:15,560 --> 02:27:18,080
Speaker 6: take Indiana gain twelve. But now that's back to eleven.

2633
02:27:18,640 --> 02:27:21,920
Speaker 6: Definitely lean for me in Indiana. But I just can't

2634
02:27:21,920 --> 02:27:24,119
Speaker 6: do it. I can't quite get there. It actually bet

2635
02:27:24,120 --> 02:27:26,120
Speaker 6: my own money on it, but my five Beginiana because

2636
02:27:26,160 --> 02:27:29,560
Speaker 6: you're getting a two point tax. And again my theory is, guys,

2637
02:27:29,760 --> 02:27:32,199
Speaker 6: I don't think because Indiana one game one, they're like, okay,

2638
02:27:32,320 --> 02:27:34,520
Speaker 6: we won game one, Yeah, whatever, if we lose game two,

2639
02:27:34,520 --> 02:27:37,480
Speaker 6: who cares. I don't know how that mentality could ever

2640
02:27:37,600 --> 02:27:41,000
Speaker 6: be possible. And that's how sometimes when these people think

2641
02:27:41,000 --> 02:27:42,880
Speaker 6: of these things, say oh, they wanted. They don't you know,

2642
02:27:43,360 --> 02:27:46,840
Speaker 6: the zigzag theory whatnot. But to me, they just won

2643
02:27:46,879 --> 02:27:48,720
Speaker 6: game one. They're feeling goods, like, all right, let's let's

2644
02:27:48,760 --> 02:27:51,280
Speaker 6: let's win them both. That's the seven lad we could

2645
02:27:51,320 --> 02:27:54,360
Speaker 6: relax from the offseason. I'm even give Max effort knowing that,

2646
02:27:54,920 --> 02:27:57,200
Speaker 6: why am I throwing any game away? So to me,

2647
02:27:57,280 --> 02:27:59,240
Speaker 6: I think you're just getting a two point tax when

2648
02:27:59,280 --> 02:28:02,560
Speaker 6: in reality, I think it's the same game as Game one.

2649
02:28:02,800 --> 02:28:04,920
Speaker 6: And if you liked Indiana in game one plus nine,

2650
02:28:05,200 --> 02:28:08,400
Speaker 6: I probably like the game two plus eleven. But for me,

2651
02:28:08,400 --> 02:28:10,760
Speaker 6: I would needed twelve to actually bet the game of myself.

2652
02:28:12,520 --> 02:28:14,840
Speaker 6: All right, I like the side of mine.

2653
02:28:16,680 --> 02:28:18,560
Speaker 3: I'm gonna ask you a philosophical question. I wanted to

2654
02:28:18,560 --> 02:28:19,560
Speaker 3: teach the world how to fish.

2655
02:28:19,600 --> 02:28:20,119
Speaker 2: For a second.

2656
02:28:21,400 --> 02:28:26,280
Speaker 3: Has the change in the approach of basketball strategically and

2657
02:28:26,440 --> 02:28:28,879
Speaker 3: the way it's shot now and the way leads sort

2658
02:28:28,879 --> 02:28:32,360
Speaker 3: of just are eliminated everywhere? Like, has it changed your

2659
02:28:32,480 --> 02:28:37,560
Speaker 3: overall concept or strategy? Or I mean, because football feels

2660
02:28:37,560 --> 02:28:40,760
Speaker 3: so much easier at times, the NBA feels so unpredictable,

2661
02:28:40,800 --> 02:28:43,440
Speaker 3: does it change for you as a pro any of this?

2662
02:28:43,560 --> 02:28:45,480
Speaker 3: Has it changed the way you approach to sport in general.

2663
02:28:46,480 --> 02:28:49,360
Speaker 6: It's a great question. Yeah, I mean, listen, obviously, with

2664
02:28:50,760 --> 02:28:53,720
Speaker 6: you know, the advent of the way the phrase becomes,

2665
02:28:53,760 --> 02:28:58,800
Speaker 6: so it's just prevalent. Yeah, I mean, obviously, leads can evaporate. Look,

2666
02:28:58,879 --> 02:29:03,080
Speaker 6: I've done quite well all doing live betting, and I've

2667
02:29:03,080 --> 02:29:05,480
Speaker 6: done that's actually done very well this postseason as well,

2668
02:29:05,520 --> 02:29:09,720
Speaker 6: despite all these comebacks, because usually I'm a lot of

2669
02:29:09,760 --> 02:29:12,920
Speaker 6: times taking teams that are doing well and if they

2670
02:29:13,040 --> 02:29:16,680
Speaker 6: if I think the line is overcorrected for a regression,

2671
02:29:17,440 --> 02:29:20,080
Speaker 6: I think sometimes they overdo those lines. Now with Indiana,

2672
02:29:20,680 --> 02:29:22,240
Speaker 6: a lot of these things have come in the last

2673
02:29:22,360 --> 02:29:26,080
Speaker 6: literally the last two minutes, so it really hasn't effect

2674
02:29:26,120 --> 02:29:28,680
Speaker 6: because I'm not doing those bets at that time in

2675
02:29:28,720 --> 02:29:33,840
Speaker 6: the game. Look, I know, with with the way the

2676
02:29:33,879 --> 02:29:36,480
Speaker 6: game is now, leaves can evaporate Crooker than they ever

2677
02:29:36,600 --> 02:29:39,400
Speaker 6: used to evaporate, right, It's like I do know that.

2678
02:29:39,400 --> 02:29:40,840
Speaker 6: It's like and two, you didn't used to be a

2679
02:29:40,840 --> 02:29:43,200
Speaker 6: two points version NFL. Now it's two punk version. It's

2680
02:29:43,240 --> 02:29:46,760
Speaker 6: easier for if you're down eight right now, you can

2681
02:29:46,800 --> 02:29:48,640
Speaker 6: actually tie up the game. As close as twenty five

2682
02:29:48,680 --> 02:29:53,280
Speaker 6: years ago you couldn't. So, but I it hasn't only

2683
02:29:53,320 --> 02:29:55,600
Speaker 6: affected me a ton city answer your question, but I'm

2684
02:29:55,680 --> 02:29:59,840
Speaker 6: just very cognizant of it is easier for that that

2685
02:30:00,120 --> 02:30:02,720
Speaker 6: lead be to three. And the teams play conservatively like

2686
02:30:02,760 --> 02:30:05,039
Speaker 6: we've seen in hockey teams going to a show. If

2687
02:30:05,080 --> 02:30:06,920
Speaker 6: you can put a conservative show in the NBA and

2688
02:30:07,000 --> 02:30:09,720
Speaker 6: some of these games, guys, you're gonna get you're gonna

2689
02:30:09,720 --> 02:30:12,640
Speaker 6: get smacked. And you got to still be aggressive and

2690
02:30:12,680 --> 02:30:15,720
Speaker 6: score because we've seen it time after time within Dana

2691
02:30:15,720 --> 02:30:17,680
Speaker 6: if you just try to like drive off the clock

2692
02:30:17,760 --> 02:30:20,920
Speaker 6: and you know it's not gonna work because these teams

2693
02:30:20,920 --> 02:30:22,720
Speaker 6: can and will score it and make this game close

2694
02:30:22,760 --> 02:30:24,080
Speaker 6: before you know it all.

2695
02:30:24,040 --> 02:30:27,880
Speaker 2: Right, because we're up against it. So hit us with

2696
02:30:28,000 --> 02:30:30,640
Speaker 2: what you got and also I know you can work

2697
02:30:30,680 --> 02:30:34,480
Speaker 2: it all props for tomorrow night. So you know, hit

2698
02:30:34,560 --> 02:30:37,760
Speaker 2: us with baseball and the props for tomorrow night. You

2699
02:30:37,879 --> 02:30:38,200
Speaker 2: got it.

2700
02:30:38,200 --> 02:30:41,160
Speaker 6: You got it, my friend, it's funny props. Team down,

2701
02:30:41,200 --> 02:30:43,720
Speaker 6: they'll go quick. But I bet ten props in game

2702
02:30:43,760 --> 02:30:47,480
Speaker 6: one man Anthony Day fifty. They adjusted like every single

2703
02:30:47,520 --> 02:30:50,320
Speaker 6: one of them the way I thought was right. The

2704
02:30:50,320 --> 02:30:52,959
Speaker 6: one that I still think has value again because he's

2705
02:30:53,080 --> 02:30:55,120
Speaker 6: there's no free lunches but I teach you McConnell over

2706
02:30:55,160 --> 02:30:57,000
Speaker 6: six and a half points, one over seventy one per

2707
02:30:57,000 --> 02:30:59,600
Speaker 6: center in the regular season, eleven and six in the postseason.

2708
02:31:00,280 --> 02:31:02,280
Speaker 6: I do think the guy's the most just I just

2709
02:31:02,320 --> 02:31:03,920
Speaker 6: love the guy. I just think that that line should

2710
02:31:03,920 --> 02:31:05,680
Speaker 6: be seven and a half. You say, what's the edge?

2711
02:31:05,720 --> 02:31:07,800
Speaker 6: Roman lands on the seven? That was the edge should

2712
02:31:07,800 --> 02:31:09,720
Speaker 6: be seven and a half. I like TJ McConnell over

2713
02:31:09,720 --> 02:31:11,840
Speaker 6: six and a half points. That would be my favorite

2714
02:31:11,879 --> 02:31:14,800
Speaker 6: prop in the game. And then baseball real quick, guys,

2715
02:31:15,280 --> 02:31:16,840
Speaker 6: local things are like a lot today. I like the

2716
02:31:16,879 --> 02:31:19,400
Speaker 6: Astros minus usual lay last one. I think it's like

2717
02:31:19,440 --> 02:31:21,680
Speaker 6: one twenty in the five inning line against the Guardians

2718
02:31:21,840 --> 02:31:23,880
Speaker 6: front of Brown arguably the best picture in the sport

2719
02:31:23,879 --> 02:31:26,280
Speaker 6: after school right now over Gavin Williams. I think that's

2720
02:31:26,280 --> 02:31:29,440
Speaker 6: a very strong play. I like under four and a

2721
02:31:29,480 --> 02:31:32,640
Speaker 6: half five inning line. Garrett Krousher, who's been brilliant all

2722
02:31:32,720 --> 02:31:35,920
Speaker 6: year against Ryan Yarbro who for the Yankees. Guys, he's

2723
02:31:35,959 --> 02:31:40,080
Speaker 6: had like seven brilliant starts to row Red Sox usually don't.

2724
02:31:39,879 --> 02:31:45,600
Speaker 2: Get fifty an hour. What's that he throws sixty two

2725
02:31:45,640 --> 02:31:46,320
Speaker 2: miles an hour.

2726
02:31:47,520 --> 02:31:49,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, but you know what, I mean, I know the case,

2727
02:31:50,040 --> 02:31:53,040
Speaker 6: my friend, but you know what it's about. He pitched

2728
02:31:53,040 --> 02:31:53,520
Speaker 6: really well.

2729
02:31:53,560 --> 02:31:56,360
Speaker 2: The Dodgers couldn't figure them out. She couldn't figure him outs.

2730
02:31:56,360 --> 02:31:59,240
Speaker 6: On the night he's been he's pitched roll against good

2731
02:31:59,280 --> 02:32:03,920
Speaker 6: competition to shut out the Dodgers last week and under

2732
02:32:03,920 --> 02:32:06,480
Speaker 6: five in the five inning line. Taj Browley has been

2733
02:32:06,600 --> 02:32:09,880
Speaker 6: very very hot. Ryan Weathers is the Marlins death picture

2734
02:32:09,920 --> 02:32:12,720
Speaker 6: who's been very very solid. I've been fading. Tampa Bay's

2735
02:32:12,720 --> 02:32:16,240
Speaker 6: offense has been very very profitable for me. I like

2736
02:32:16,320 --> 02:32:17,879
Speaker 6: under five runs, I don't like the least six.

2737
02:32:17,840 --> 02:32:20,640
Speaker 2: Rows and acond. You got it, buddy, Good stuff, man,

2738
02:32:20,720 --> 02:32:26,320
Speaker 2: good luck and enjoy. You're great sportsman. So you see

2739
02:32:26,360 --> 02:32:30,240
Speaker 2: your buddy, see you, buddy. All right, fellas, we'll come back.

2740
02:32:30,320 --> 02:32:35,240
Speaker 2: We'll wrap it up right here on this Saturday, July seventh,

2741
02:32:36,040 --> 02:32:42,800
Speaker 2: Jason Fitz, Anthony Gargana on Fox Sports Radio, take.

2742
02:32:42,640 --> 02:32:47,600
Speaker 3: It, bro, can't talk over Frank, come on, man, the fellas.

2743
02:32:47,600 --> 02:32:50,280
Speaker 3: He's Anthony Gogt on Jason Fitz, come on now. I mean,

2744
02:32:51,080 --> 02:32:53,680
Speaker 3: every time I hear this, it makes me smile so much.

2745
02:32:53,920 --> 02:32:56,680
Speaker 3: I you know, there's just something about Saturday mornings that

2746
02:32:56,760 --> 02:32:59,040
Speaker 3: feel special when I was a kid, it was Saturday

2747
02:32:59,040 --> 02:33:03,920
Speaker 3: Morning cartoons allow by WWF back then now now WWE Now,

2748
02:33:04,080 --> 02:33:06,959
Speaker 3: Saturday Mornings are special because it's the Fellas.

2749
02:33:06,600 --> 02:33:09,280
Speaker 2: And this whole family that we got up here. Oh

2750
02:33:09,640 --> 02:33:10,320
Speaker 2: it feels good.

2751
02:33:10,360 --> 02:33:12,880
Speaker 3: Even in the off season, it just feels good.

2752
02:33:13,480 --> 02:33:16,640
Speaker 2: I'm with you, brother, I look forward to it. So

2753
02:33:17,000 --> 02:33:19,959
Speaker 2: they they used to do this thing Sundays with Sinatra

2754
02:33:21,080 --> 02:33:24,440
Speaker 2: Sunday Mornings. They would always have Sunday's Mornings and you're

2755
02:33:24,520 --> 02:33:26,600
Speaker 2: right like that, it's a great way to end the show.

2756
02:33:28,560 --> 02:33:32,359
Speaker 2: And because it's there's something relaxing about it, like pleasing

2757
02:33:32,440 --> 02:33:36,279
Speaker 2: and still like my parents would listen to it, and uh,

2758
02:33:36,480 --> 02:33:38,600
Speaker 2: you know, it was one of those things. But you're

2759
02:33:38,760 --> 02:33:43,400
Speaker 2: you're you're spot on, spot on. Every Sunday morning they

2760
02:33:43,400 --> 02:33:45,040
Speaker 2: would have they would have that gone with My mother

2761
02:33:45,080 --> 02:33:49,920
Speaker 2: would really my grandmother would be cooking and she would

2762
02:33:49,959 --> 02:33:53,560
Speaker 2: make this big pot of we call it grainy, which

2763
02:33:53,560 --> 02:33:57,680
Speaker 2: is tomato sauce with you know, meat balls, and she'd

2764
02:33:57,720 --> 02:34:02,600
Speaker 2: make homemade and yukies and pasta and stuff like that

2765
02:34:02,640 --> 02:34:04,119
Speaker 2: would be a Sunday morning.

2766
02:34:05,000 --> 02:34:07,840
Speaker 3: Now, are you just it's just a philosophical question here,

2767
02:34:08,920 --> 02:34:11,640
Speaker 3: are you one to correct? Like if I'm hanging out

2768
02:34:11,640 --> 02:34:14,600
Speaker 3: with the family and I say, ricotta, am I getting corrected?

2769
02:34:14,720 --> 02:34:15,600
Speaker 2: Is that? Like? Is that?

2770
02:34:16,560 --> 02:34:19,080
Speaker 3: You know there are plenty of people that they start

2771
02:34:19,120 --> 02:34:21,199
Speaker 3: asking me to say different, you know, plenty of people

2772
02:34:21,560 --> 02:34:24,240
Speaker 3: that have Italian roots that will come back and be like, no,

2773
02:34:24,280 --> 02:34:28,080
Speaker 3: it's we're going or whatever, like doesn't feel cool, Like

2774
02:34:28,160 --> 02:34:28,400
Speaker 3: you know.

2775
02:34:28,400 --> 02:34:33,320
Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't do that. No, that's you know, second

2776
02:34:33,320 --> 02:34:38,800
Speaker 2: of all the Italian Americans butcher the Italian language like

2777
02:34:38,840 --> 02:34:43,480
Speaker 2: it's not regutt right, like I always hear that. You know,

2778
02:34:43,720 --> 02:34:47,280
Speaker 2: it's supposed to be unacolta, right, like that's the way

2779
02:34:47,320 --> 02:34:51,960
Speaker 2: the Italians say it, but we bastardize it because we

2780
02:34:52,040 --> 02:34:54,280
Speaker 2: are all all these poor people from the south that

2781
02:34:54,360 --> 02:34:58,280
Speaker 2: came over from the southern Italy looking for work, and

2782
02:34:58,800 --> 02:35:04,080
Speaker 2: they opt the last part of the word off. It's

2783
02:35:04,120 --> 02:35:07,280
Speaker 2: no different than you know, you would say like people

2784
02:35:07,320 --> 02:35:11,119
Speaker 2: would say I'm bringing instead of bringing, I'm bringing, right,

2785
02:35:11,240 --> 02:35:15,280
Speaker 2: Like that's what they did because they were uneducated people

2786
02:35:15,280 --> 02:35:20,120
Speaker 2: from the south, So that that's hound the language kind

2787
02:35:20,120 --> 02:35:21,680
Speaker 2: of developed or.

2788
02:35:22,200 --> 02:35:25,080
Speaker 3: What you just said was a little clinic, right, And

2789
02:35:25,200 --> 02:35:27,680
Speaker 3: I love this. I have to stress this to people

2790
02:35:27,720 --> 02:35:30,920
Speaker 3: when I because I am so when it comes to

2791
02:35:31,000 --> 02:35:33,280
Speaker 3: most things that are not sports or music related. I

2792
02:35:33,440 --> 02:35:35,480
Speaker 3: fall somewhere on the path of indifference, like I just

2793
02:35:35,480 --> 02:35:37,920
Speaker 3: don't pay attention to a lot of the world. And

2794
02:35:38,160 --> 02:35:40,640
Speaker 3: I understand that that's not always the best way to be,

2795
02:35:40,760 --> 02:35:43,240
Speaker 3: but it's just for me. One of the hardest things

2796
02:35:43,240 --> 02:35:47,240
Speaker 3: for me to internalize or figure out in general is

2797
02:35:47,280 --> 02:35:49,400
Speaker 3: that I know a lot about the sports business. I

2798
02:35:49,440 --> 02:35:52,240
Speaker 3: know a lot about the music business. And I hear

2799
02:35:52,320 --> 02:35:54,720
Speaker 3: people all the time on TV and radio that are

2800
02:35:54,720 --> 02:35:57,600
Speaker 3: supposedly experts in both say things that are just flat

2801
02:35:57,600 --> 02:36:00,360
Speaker 3: out and correct. I know they're incorrect, and you go

2802
02:36:00,440 --> 02:36:04,320
Speaker 3: to try and correct somebody on something that I've lived

2803
02:36:04,760 --> 02:36:06,760
Speaker 3: and you can't get anybody to believe you. It's it's

2804
02:36:06,800 --> 02:36:08,600
Speaker 3: one of the good Like you just gave me a

2805
02:36:08,640 --> 02:36:12,800
Speaker 3: clinic on pronunciation. And the funny thing is, if we

2806
02:36:12,800 --> 02:36:14,840
Speaker 3: were putting that out on Twitter, there's one hundred people

2807
02:36:14,840 --> 02:36:16,280
Speaker 3: that would tell you you're an idiot, you know what

2808
02:36:16,320 --> 02:36:19,119
Speaker 3: you're talking about because they heard it another way. It's

2809
02:36:19,120 --> 02:36:21,400
Speaker 3: one of the great weird things about the world today

2810
02:36:21,440 --> 02:36:24,880
Speaker 3: is that you can't you can't convince anybody of the truth,

2811
02:36:24,959 --> 02:36:27,039
Speaker 3: even if you've lived through it. You just have to

2812
02:36:27,879 --> 02:36:30,720
Speaker 3: accept everybody else. It's it's a very weird world.

2813
02:36:30,480 --> 02:36:30,840
Speaker 2: We live in.

2814
02:36:30,920 --> 02:36:33,840
Speaker 3: You can you can convince a conspiracy theorist of another

2815
02:36:33,879 --> 02:36:36,840
Speaker 3: conspiracy theory easily. You just can never convince them of

2816
02:36:36,840 --> 02:36:38,880
Speaker 3: the truth, even if you've lived it, been in the room,

2817
02:36:38,959 --> 02:36:41,200
Speaker 3: they just won't believe you. So it's it's a very

2818
02:36:41,240 --> 02:36:41,840
Speaker 3: weird world.

2819
02:36:42,080 --> 02:36:44,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm lucky to try to change anybody. I'd be

2820
02:36:44,560 --> 02:36:47,959
Speaker 2: honest with you, like, I don't know, I'm lucky to

2821
02:36:48,040 --> 02:36:50,520
Speaker 2: change people like you want, you know, I mean, I

2822
02:36:50,520 --> 02:36:51,280
Speaker 2: can tell you it.

2823
02:36:51,200 --> 02:36:53,000
Speaker 3: Was Cannon Reeves. It was like, I'm at the point

2824
02:36:53,000 --> 02:36:54,640
Speaker 3: in my life now where if somebody says two plus

2825
02:36:54,680 --> 02:36:57,039
Speaker 3: two equals five, I'm like, okay, I don't care. Like

2826
02:36:57,440 --> 02:37:01,200
Speaker 3: there's there's a truth to that.

2827
02:37:01,200 --> 02:37:04,360
Speaker 2: That's it, man, you know, let live. I just want

2828
02:37:04,400 --> 02:37:08,240
Speaker 2: to enjoy life, right, I'm not stressed over nonsense. I

2829
02:37:08,280 --> 02:37:11,800
Speaker 2: want to enjoy my sports right, Like, that's it. I

2830
02:37:11,840 --> 02:37:14,920
Speaker 2: got a tournament. I gotta drive. We go off the air.

2831
02:37:14,959 --> 02:37:16,960
Speaker 2: I gotta go drive an hour and twenty minutes of

2832
02:37:17,040 --> 02:37:20,440
Speaker 2: the rain for a baseball tournament. And I'm gonna go.

2833
02:37:20,920 --> 02:37:24,440
Speaker 2: All right, it's great, get to watch my kid play.

2834
02:37:25,240 --> 02:37:28,840
Speaker 2: We're all gonna we're all gonna you know, it's the

2835
02:37:28,879 --> 02:37:33,000
Speaker 2: simple pleasures of life. Man, Saturday afternoon. You know, I'll

2836
02:37:33,000 --> 02:37:36,160
Speaker 2: come home, I'll make a cocktail, all right, and that'll

2837
02:37:36,200 --> 02:37:38,720
Speaker 2: be my day. That'll be a nice day. What are

2838
02:37:38,760 --> 02:37:39,119
Speaker 2: you doing?

2839
02:37:39,640 --> 02:37:43,039
Speaker 3: The simple pleasures? By the way, Like I it's amazing

2840
02:37:43,160 --> 02:37:47,800
Speaker 3: how we just forget to enjoy those, Like yeah, I

2841
02:37:47,840 --> 02:37:51,320
Speaker 3: think this time of year, it's just enjoy. Like there's

2842
02:37:51,360 --> 02:37:54,600
Speaker 3: a little Polish food festival down the road tomorrow. I'm

2843
02:37:54,640 --> 02:37:56,840
Speaker 3: just gonna go hang out, just go walk, n.

2844
02:37:56,640 --> 02:37:59,960
Speaker 2: Like, just enjoy the baby. Look at that.

2845
02:38:00,360 --> 02:38:02,960
Speaker 3: I mean, my body's a temple. But I might have

2846
02:38:03,000 --> 02:38:04,440
Speaker 3: a parogi like a PAROCHI.

2847
02:38:04,600 --> 02:38:06,760
Speaker 2: Oh it's right, you can't. Yeah, you gotta have one.

2848
02:38:06,800 --> 02:38:07,280
Speaker 3: I have one.

2849
02:38:07,280 --> 02:38:10,320
Speaker 2: I have one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Polish festival, got have one. Yeah,

2850
02:38:10,440 --> 02:38:14,720
Speaker 2: you gotta have one. That's a that's a great item.

2851
02:38:15,040 --> 02:38:18,160
Speaker 2: That's a fine item. All right. Who you like tomorrow night?

2852
02:38:19,959 --> 02:38:22,200
Speaker 3: Okay, see okay, see pretty definitively.

2853
02:38:23,080 --> 02:38:26,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, that means in the air, I feel the same way.

2854
02:38:26,040 --> 02:38:29,640
Speaker 2: It means Indiana is gonna win. I have a great weekend. Everybody,

2855
02:38:29,640 --> 02:38:30,080
Speaker 2: We love you.