1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 2: Jacqueline Ardrey. She is very broadly president and CEO with 3 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 2: me in person. It's great to see you. 4 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks Katie, great for having me. 5 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 2: So let's look ahead to the future. Tell us about 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:21,240 Speaker 2: Project Restoration. It's built as this full three sixty brand transformation. 7 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 2: What does that look like in practice? 8 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: It's such an exciting transition for us as a brand. 9 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: We really eighteen months ago when I joined, we started 10 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: this really comprehensive analysis of the business and looking at 11 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: everything from our store experience, our website experience, our products, 12 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: everything that we could affect, and came up with this 13 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 1: plan that is really a four pillar plan. I've talked 14 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: about this a lot. That's what Project Restoration is. It's 15 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:55,639 Speaker 1: it's addressing the consumer, it's addressing product, it's addressing our 16 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: channels of distribution, and then it's also addressing the brand. 17 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: So this is a real again, as you said, three 18 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty degree transformation, and it is so important 19 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 1: I think for a brand transformation to look at the 20 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: kind of size and what we need to deliver to 21 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: change our results is you have to look at everything. 22 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 1: So we went back we a lot of sales data. 23 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: We looked at our history, but also looked at current competitors. 24 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: We looked at the market and said, you know, what 25 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 1: is the customer looking for? What does she need now? 26 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 1: And a big trend in accessories is around customization and personalization. 27 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: So we really set out to do something brand new 28 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 1: in the accessory space, keeping our colorful heritage, which is 29 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: you know, many people, as we talked just earlier, know 30 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: this brand and love this brand. We have a lot 31 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: of brand recognition for the size of our company, and 32 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: we just wanted to make it fresh and relevant and modern. 33 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: So I am so excited with what the team has 34 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: delivered here. Everything from all of our product really transformed. 35 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: It's all new, but you'll recognize it as Vera Bradley, 36 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: like when you when you walk into the room and 37 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: you see everything, and you walk into a retail store 38 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: experience our our new updated website. It feels like Vera Bradley, 39 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: but it's very modern and it's it's still colorful. It's 40 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: a nod to the heritage that the brand started with, 41 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: but it's it's just all I can say is that 42 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: it's it's all new and exciting. 43 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 2: Well, let's talk a little bit more in detail about 44 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 2: what to expect, because of course, I think very Bradley. 45 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 2: I think those Paisley wristlets and wallets that everyone in high. 46 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: School and college had. 47 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 2: So it sounds like you're still going to be colorful, 48 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 2: but more solids. For example, are you introducing new items actually, 49 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 2: such as items of clothing? Are you sticking to bags here? 50 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: We really are focusing more on our key heritage, which 51 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: is travel and handbags. And we still will have clothing, 52 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: you know, some of the some of the things. We're 53 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: deemphasizing that a little bit to really return to our 54 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: core and it's it's colorful Bill Paisley's in the line. 55 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: There's still things, but again it's just a it's a 56 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: modern and fresh take because if you really look at 57 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 1: the retailers who are doing well now, you've got to, 58 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: you know, two segments. You've got the value segment and 59 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: you've got brands who are transformed or being are really innovative, 60 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: and that's really what we're going for. We're really going 61 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: for this innovative solution. And when you look at how 62 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: the line all works together, we believe, you know, a 63 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: trend right now and accessories is around again. Customization like this. 64 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: You know, the modern woman is, she's doing so much. 65 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: There's this whole phenomenon around a bag within a bag, 66 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: so you have a tote bag and then you have 67 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: your wristlet or you have you know, other small things 68 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: that you want to tuck in there. We've provided these 69 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: really thoughtful solutions for her, which is is a hallmark 70 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: of the brand as well. 71 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 2: Let's talk about who she is because reading through your 72 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 2: most recent earnings release, your earnings call, it seems like 73 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 2: you're targeting that thirty five to fifty five year old woman, 74 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 2: so not exactly high schoolers. And I mean thinking about that, 75 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 2: it reminds me a bit of what Abercrombie and Fitch 76 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 2: is doing, that reimagination that they've had their brand and 77 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 2: focusing on a slightly older client. What was the thought 78 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 2: process and the decision tree that led you to that 79 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 2: specific age group. 80 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, great question. We're very fortunate in that we have 81 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: a multi generational customer. So if you look at where 82 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: you know, in our different age ranges where we have 83 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: customers and where we've always had customers, we're very fortunate 84 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: and that we're anywhere from eighteen to sixty five. So 85 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: that's we want to keep that. The reason for the 86 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: focus on that thirty five to fifty four year old 87 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: is really that's you know, when the brand was really successful, 88 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 1: that's really where we had many more customers than we 89 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: do today. So that was one reason. The second reason 90 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: is that that generation influences both her kids and her mom, 91 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 1: and that is really what is so special about this 92 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: brand is that the stories that I hear from customers 93 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: about their first Vera Bradley bag, it's almost always connected 94 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: to somebody else in their household, which is really special. 95 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: But you know, the thirty five to fifty four year 96 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: olds also they have more money to spend as well, 97 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: So that was another more practical reason. So for all 98 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: those reasons, that's why we refocused there. 99 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about when this could start to bear fruit. 100 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 2: Of course, you're expecting a stronger back half of the year, 101 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 2: but is that enough time for that turnaround to really 102 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 2: take root? What gives you the confidence that this is 103 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 2: that the second half of twenty twenty four is when 104 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 2: we'll start seeing this pick up. 105 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, the one thing that we did that 106 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: I think we did really well last year was reposition 107 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:41,119 Speaker 1: our cost structure so that we could afford to invest 108 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: in the marketing that we needed to actually launch this transformation, 109 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: and that is really what you'll see. You'll see a 110 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: lot of a lot of marketing from the minute we 111 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: launched this in a couple of weeks through the rest 112 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 1: of the year, so we were able to really reinvest 113 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: in marketing to kind of get the word out there 114 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: for both For our existing customers are extremely loyal and 115 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: we think that they're going to be delighted by some 116 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: of the changes that we've made, but we also need 117 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 1: new customers and new people to interact with the brand. 118 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: So that's where our marketing, our new marketing plans come in. 119 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 2: Well, you only have about a minute left with you, 120 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 2: but we're within that marketing trajectory. Are you investing Are 121 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 2: we talking you know, bottom of the funnel sort of 122 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 2: social media sort of type initiatives or what are you 123 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 2: actually investing in? 124 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: It's really all through the funnel, so you'll see a 125 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 1: lot more top of funnel than we've done. We have 126 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: a celebrity partner who will be introducing in a short 127 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 1: time here, which is we're really excited about, and just 128 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 1: all through the funnel. We'll be spending our marketing investments. 129 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 2: Well, really excited to see this turnaround get off the 130 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 2: ground of course, coming in mid July, Jacqueline Audrey, it's 131 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 2: great to see you. 132 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Thank you Katie,