1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome to this day in History class. Today 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: is March three, nineteen, and today we're gonna do something 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,319 Speaker 1: a little bit different than we've been doing. We're bringing 4 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,240 Speaker 1: on a guest to talk about Delta Sigma Theta's first 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: public act and that was the Women's Suffrage March, and 6 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 1: that was in nineteen thirteen. So I hope that you 7 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: all enjoy today's episode. We're doing this in celebration of 8 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: Women's History Month. March is Women's History Month, so we're 9 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: gonna do this throughout Sundays of this month. So I 10 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: would like to welcome Katie Mitchell to the show. Katie 11 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: is a technical writer at a cloud computing company. She's 12 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: also a freelance writer and she's a member of Delta 13 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: Sigma Theta. Welcome Katie, Hey, thanks for having me. Yeah, 14 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: I'm glad you're here today. So we're gonna talk about 15 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: Delta Sigma Theta's first public act when they went to 16 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: the Women's Suffrage March in nineteen thirteen. Can you tell 17 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: us a little bit about what happened on the how 18 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: it started, anything you want to say about it. Sure, 19 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: So this happened in nineteen thirteen, March three, UM. But 20 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: before the first public Act, Delta Sigma Data had to 21 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: be an organization to start with. So on January thirteen, 22 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: nineteen thirteen, twenty two undergraduate students founded Delta Sigma Data 23 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: at Howard University h U, and then less than two 24 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: months later, these twenty two young women decided to participate 25 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: in the Women's Suffrage March. Suffrage, meaning that they were 26 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: marching for the right to vote. Obviously, UM that didn't 27 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: happen until decades later for black folks and around seven 28 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 1: years later for white women. But it was like a 29 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: very radical thing to do for these undergraduate students. Say 30 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: they're nineteen through twenty two and they're participating in this 31 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: march that a lot of people didn't want them in. 32 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: As most people know, the women's suffrage movement was segregated itself. 33 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: White women felt that they needed the right to vote 34 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: more than black women, more than black men, and that 35 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: was kind of the catalyst for their movement. For so, 36 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: for these twenty two black girls to show up at 37 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:12,119 Speaker 1: this march that was a very large march at the time, 38 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 1: Over two fifty people showed up in d C to 39 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: march for this was very radical and dangerous thing for 40 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: them to do because they weren't wanted by the white women. 41 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: The men attacked the entire um march itself, including the 42 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 1: white women. So being black in that space was particularly 43 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: dangerous for them at the time. Can you tell me 44 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: anything about why this was the first public act, Like 45 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: what's the significance of them doing this before anything else, 46 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: or this being the first thing that they did that 47 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: the public was able to see dust stigma. Thetas started 48 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: because these women wanted to change. There was already a 49 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,119 Speaker 1: sorority on campus that they had previously been a part of, 50 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: but they were unsatisfied with what that sorority was doing 51 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: as far as making UM, making political and social change 52 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: in the community, UM in the black community. So they 53 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 1: decided to break off and start Delta Sigma Data. And 54 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: one of their core tenants was political awareness and involvement. 55 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: And so for them to have this to be their 56 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: first act, I think was very intentional. They weren't trying to, 57 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: you know, just slip in quietly. They were told to 58 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: UM go to the back black section of the parade basically, 59 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: and they showed up in full force because they knew 60 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: that political awareness and involvement was a big thing for 61 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: this new organization and they wanted to make that statement 62 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: for the world. Is there anything notable that happened at 63 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: the time in terms of the reaction that people had 64 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: to their presence at the march, They definitely weren't wanted. 65 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: The organizer of the march was named Alice Paul and 66 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: she told editors of papers that she didn't think that 67 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: the march should be integrated. She said, either there's needs 68 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: to be a white march, order there needs to be 69 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: a black march, or no march. And they were aware 70 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: of this um. Their advisor, Mary Church Terrell, who was 71 00:03:56,000 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: a civil rights activists as well, came and advised the 72 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: twenty two women to still participate and their presence was 73 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: agitating even more to the men um the white men 74 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: who were there. So when violence erupted like the march 75 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 1: was covered very heavily in the papers. In the papers 76 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 1: at that time, they mentioned that there is this group 77 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 1: called Delta Segment Data that was at this march and 78 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 1: it was a group of black young women also demanding 79 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: the right to vote. Can you tell me what the 80 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: significance is of Black Greek organizations in general? In general, 81 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: there are nine mph c organizations, National Panel in It 82 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: Council and their community service oriented They do a lot 83 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: in the Black community and on college campuses. A lot 84 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 1: of them started at HBCUs Historical Black Colleges and Universities 85 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 1: UM to be organizations that uplift Black college educated people 86 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 1: and not even just their members who have to be 87 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: college educated because you can't get into the organization unless 88 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: you're in the college, but also UM, like the elderly children, 89 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: whatever the organization is focusing on, that part of the 90 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: community benefits as well as the members. So for example, 91 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 1: one of the things that my organization, my chapter did 92 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: zai Alpha Georgia Tech. Hey yeah, UM, we focused on 93 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: food and security. That was a term back in two 94 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: thousand twelves and not a lot of people were saying 95 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: like what is that? UM? And I was able to 96 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: educate the college campus but then also go out into 97 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:39,239 Speaker 1: the community to food insecure places and make a difference 98 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: in that way too. So March is Women's History Month, 99 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: which is the reason we're talking about this today. So 100 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: I want to know what you think the significance is 101 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: of talking about like Greek organizations and the women in 102 00:05:52,839 --> 00:06:00,039 Speaker 1: them in March. UM. So before I joined Delta. I 103 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: really looked up to certain women, and some of those 104 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,799 Speaker 1: women included like Ida b Wells, Fanny lou Hamer Um 105 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 1: not realizing that they were Deltas too, and I was 106 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: like following in their footsteps. So chances are, if you 107 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 1: look up to a black woman, several black women, some 108 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: of them are going to be in a sorority and 109 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: you might not know it. A lot of them, you know, 110 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: that's not the first thing that they're saying when they 111 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 1: introduce themselves, because they stand on their own and are 112 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: doing great things in the community. But if you look 113 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: back into their past, a lot of the time that 114 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 1: foundation comes from the sorority that they're in. And just 115 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: with times like these, with the Me Too movement, with 116 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: um things going on at the border, women getting separated 117 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: from their children, folks getting locked up on drug charges, 118 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: but then other people getting to be millionaires because of drugs. 119 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 1: Like I think it's important to look at women who 120 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: are in the community doing what they're passionate about, whether 121 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: that immigration policy, whether that's prison abolition, whether that's voting rights, 122 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 1: and to figure out what you're passionate about and get 123 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: gets moving, because girl, it's crazy. Tax out here, like 124 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: it's wild out here. So I think that's why it's 125 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: important and relevant to look at the past, learn from 126 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: these women, look at women doing stuff right now and 127 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: seeing like what's what's the thing that you're going to 128 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: take up and what's the thing that you're going to 129 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: push forward for the next generation. Can you tell me 130 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: anything about delta stigma data, their presence at the Women's 131 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: Stuffage March, anything relevant to this topic. Yeah, So taking 132 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: it back to math class, you know, delta means change 133 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: and these women were really um intentional about making that change. 134 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: Like nobody would have batted an eye if they would 135 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: have made a sorority that all they did. You know, 136 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: it's nineteen They sit around drinking sea in their big 137 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: hoop dresses and no one would have blinked to eye. 138 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: But they saw a different path for themselves and they 139 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,239 Speaker 1: saw something different. So one thing that I want people 140 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: to take away is that when you're doing things in 141 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: the present, there's a legacy that you may be laying 142 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: down that you don't even realize, or maybe you do 143 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: realize it. I don't know. Maybe they did envision that 144 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: over a hundred and six years ago or years from 145 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: their founding that someone like me would be on a 146 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: podcast talking about them. Who knows, maybe they had that vision, 147 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: but a lot of times people are fighting for things 148 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: that they don't even know if it's going to come 149 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: to fruition in their lifetime. You know, Black the voting 150 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: rights acting in past the nineteen A lot of these 151 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: women were deceased by then, so they were out here 152 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: marching for something that they wouldn't even get to enjoy. 153 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: But they did it because they realized that it was 154 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: important for future generations and not just people that they knew, 155 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: like people that they didn't know, people who didn't have 156 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: the opportunities they had. Like, remember this is nineteen thirteen. 157 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: These are black people going to college, the first people 158 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 1: that went to college, and my family was causing the eighties. 159 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: So like they were very privileged, and they used that 160 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: privilege to make a difference and to help other people 161 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: and to like move women forward, move black people forward, 162 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: move the country forward, because it's really a staying on 163 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: this country that everyone didn't have the right to vote 164 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: from jump get on my soapbox. But yeah, it's just 165 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: like they were aware that they weren't wanted and they 166 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: went anyway, Like there's times right now where you know, 167 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm not wanted in places, but I'm 168 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: going to show up because I know it's the right 169 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: thing to do. I think it was like summer, we 170 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: were on the highway shutting it down, and you know 171 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: a lot of older people kind of look down on that, 172 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: saying like this isn't the way to do it. But 173 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: if we look at our four mothers and four fathers, 174 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: it was on the highway shutting it down. So we 175 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: use the tools that we have to do what we 176 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: have to do and to make changes that we see fit. Yeah, 177 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: I think it's really important to put history in context 178 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: because I think the farther away that it gets, we 179 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: really forget some of the things that we did. And 180 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: when we look back to things like this, we can 181 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: understand that what we're doing today, the ways that we're moving, 182 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: and the things that we're doing in the ways that 183 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: we're organizing, really have precedence. There's a reason that we're 184 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: doing what we're doing today. It's not because people before 185 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: us didn't do it. It had to have come from somewhere. 186 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: And this act of delta sigma thetas, I think is 187 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: a good way of framing our lives today and framing 188 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: what people in Delta Sigma Theta and also people who 189 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: organize in the community and take part in their community 190 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: the things that they do. So yeah, thank you for 191 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: putting it that way. Is there anything else that you 192 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: want to add about this event? I will say that 193 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: I mentioned Mary trich Terrell was there. She was UM 194 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: an honorary member of deltas, same with data. Ida b 195 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: Wells was there also. She was a lynching anti lynching 196 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: activists UM A very I think, the most famous woman 197 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: at her time. So I think it shows that, like 198 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: the connections that we're seeing starting with the very early 199 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,719 Speaker 1: days of this organization and going on too now, they 200 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: were marching for something that they didn't know if they 201 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: would actually ever see this, but they were still doing it. 202 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: So I think a takeaway from that for Delta, for 203 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: the other n pH D organizations, for people in general, 204 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: is people might say, like, what you're marching for, what 205 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: you're fighting for, it's probably a moonshot, it's not gonna happen, 206 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: Like people want reparations, people want open borders. Like it 207 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 1: might sound really out of this world now and we 208 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: might not be able to live to see the day 209 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: that that is actually a reality. But like the twenty 210 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: two founders, still do it anyway, because people in the 211 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: future will benefit from the audacity of you to think 212 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: that we can have reparations, that we can have open borders, 213 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: that we can have you know, the thing that you 214 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: know that we should have. Yeah, you know, it's really 215 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: unfortunate how many times I've heard people say, you know, 216 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: this isn't gonna get done, Like, you know, this is ridiculous. 217 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: I've heard so many people and black people and black 218 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: women shut others down because something seems impossible. This is 219 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: not just black people, this is you know, everybody. But 220 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: since we're talking about black women specifically today, I've heard 221 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 1: that so much and it is it's sad, but it's like, 222 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: because we've had to fight so long, because we've struggled 223 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: so long and had to go through so much to 224 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: get the things that we have today, um, we lose 225 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: sight of it. And I think that this event in 226 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: history is also another way of reminding us that sometimes 227 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: things take a long time. A lot of times things 228 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: take a long time, and because our lives are so short, 229 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: we don't recognize the scale of things and we don't 230 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: recognize how every little piece is a layer that's built 231 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: onto a foundation and in the end creates the building 232 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: that you know, we can all be proud of. Yeah, 233 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: we definitely have a myopic views, like well I got 234 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: eighty years here and they have any yea. But yeah, 235 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: like people said, slavery whenever end, Like, can you imagine 236 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: like you are enslaved your whole life and that's it? 237 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: So that's all, you know, that's what you think the 238 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: condition of the world is always going to be. But 239 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: then you know your grandchildren are emancipated and you know 240 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 1: they well they started share cropping, buzzing. You know it, girl, 241 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: you know I saw Isabella Agnes, Hey Isabella. But yeah, 242 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:34,599 Speaker 1: so like people say, it's impossible, it seems impossible, it 243 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: may very well be, but you still gotta try. You 244 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: still gotta make your voice known because you never know. Okay, 245 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: thank you for being here today, Thank you, Thanks for 246 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 1: having me. Keep up with us on Twitter, Instagram and 247 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 1: Facebook at T d I h C Podcast. Thanks again 248 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 1: for listening, and I hope you come back tomorrow for 249 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: more delicious morsels of history.