1 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George 2 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Yack, Armstrong, Joe. 3 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 2: Getty, Armstrong and Jetty, and Pee arms Strong and Strong. 4 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 2: Welcome to a replay of the Armstrong and Getty Show. 5 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 2: We are on vacation, but boy, do we have some 6 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 2: good stuff for you. 7 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 3: Yes, indeed we do. And if you want to catch 8 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 3: up on your ang listening during your travels, remember grabbing 9 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 3: the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand. You ought to 10 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 3: subscribe wherever you like to get podcasts. Now on with 11 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 3: the Infotainments. The story is entitled the Bride of Chinese Frankenstein. 12 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 3: I mean you got Chinese Frankenstein. Of course you got 13 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 3: to have his bride and the race to make designer babies. 14 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 3: Some great coverage in the Free press about a very 15 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 3: very odd story. This guy's name is he Young Q. 16 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 3: I'm sure I'm mispronouncing that this guy is semi infamous. 17 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 3: You may actually recall the story that he actually, uh 18 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 3: was a brilliant student, left China, went to Stanford and 19 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 3: went back to China, and he ultimately got arrested and 20 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 3: jailed for three years for illegal medical practices. 21 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 2: He was he had. 22 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 3: He announced in twenty eighteen that he had created the 23 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 3: world's first gene edited babies, twin girls. He said he 24 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 3: designed to have a trait very few who humans are 25 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 3: born with immunity to HIV. They called me Chinese Frankenstein. 26 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 3: He told me, I didn't know, journalist, I didn't know 27 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 3: what you were going to say. 28 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 2: They were edited to have a trait no human beings 29 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 2: have had, if they could fly or see through walls 30 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 2: or what it was going to be. 31 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 3: No, turns out it's immunity the HIV, which is you know, 32 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 3: certainly lovely so anyway, but China jailed him partly because 33 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 3: it was so incredibly controversial. And now though he is 34 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 3: still in China not supposed to leave, he's getting together 35 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 3: financing to open a lab in Austin, Texas. There, he 36 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 3: said he would do Alzheimer's research on monkeys and non 37 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 3: viable human embryos in hope of figuring out how to 38 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 3: one day edit human embryos in order to prevent the disease. 39 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 3: His great competitor in this field, weirdly enough, is his 40 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 3: ex wife. They appeared to have been married for about 41 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 3: three months. 42 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,839 Speaker 2: By the way, I took a pass on going into 43 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 2: some sort of monkeys with Alzheimer's bit. I decided it 44 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 2: was distasteful, but good thank god. 45 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 3: Enter cat is not banana. I had it just oh no, no, no, 46 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 3: it's not funny. There's no humor there. Enter Kathy Tie 47 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 3: a twenty nine year old Chinese born Canadian Theo Fellow. 48 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 3: Last year she co founded a genetic engineering company in 49 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 3: the US that's trying to create All right, there is 50 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 3: humor to be had here. Just everybody, feel for you 51 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 3: to join in. She's co founded a genetic engineering company 52 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 3: that's trying to create the next generation of pets, including dragons, unicorns, 53 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 3: and glowing the Dark rabbits. 54 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 2: Well, finally, the long desired need not satisfied for so 55 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 2: many right, glowing rabbits. 56 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 3: Tired of misplacing your rabbit at night. Can't tell you 57 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 3: how many times I've stepped on a rabbit. 58 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 2: In the dark. 59 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 3: Right, right, Dragons, unicorns and glowing the Dark rabbits. But 60 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 3: this week she Corner Interview, what sort of sad. 61 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 2: Inbred genetically modified ba horned pet is going to be 62 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 2: the unicorn that comes out of this plant? Good Lord, 63 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 2: you're gonna give that to your daughter for her sixth 64 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 2: birthday and she's gonna shriek in horror. 65 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 3: Well, they're specially designing tanks where narwals can mount female 66 00:03:54,720 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 3: donkeys until it get it right. Oh, anyway, let's see. 67 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 3: Oh so she gave an interview with NPR this week, 68 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 3: I guess, and she said, yeah, we're gonna do that, 69 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 3: and we will explore how to do gene correction in 70 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 3: human embryos more safely. We want to be the company 71 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 3: that does this in the light, with transparency and with 72 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 3: good intentions. So, which is interesting. 73 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 2: Because how many companies around the world, whether it's in Russia, China, 74 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 2: North Korea, or maybe in our own labs in the 75 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 2: United States, are doing this secretly. Probably a lot of 76 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 2: people are. 77 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 3: So the fact that you got a guy who has 78 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 3: been called Chinese Frankenstein and the bride of Chinese Frankenstein 79 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 3: is in the same field as just a little too much. 80 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 2: Hey, that's hurtful. 81 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 3: According to these people, they call what they're doing a 82 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 3: Manhattan project. The stakes to be fair, writes the journalists. 83 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 3: The stakes here are existential, according to their defenders. Designer babies, 84 00:04:56,360 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 3: as they're colloquially colloquially known, or a way to fast 85 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 3: track evolution to that end. Different publication, The Wall Street 86 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 3: Journal inside Silicon Valley's growing obsession with having smarter babies. 87 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 3: Tech execs are paying tens of thousands to find brilliant 88 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 3: dates or select high IQ embryos. 89 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 2: They want to raise high performing children. Why is it 90 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 2: always that? How come they're not looking for a surly 91 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 2: bald man. I can provide that. 92 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 3: So they mentioned this mathematician who spent seven years researching 93 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 3: how to keep an advanced form of artificial intelligence from 94 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 3: destroying humanity before he declare concluded that stopping it was 95 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 3: not possible, at least anytime soon. 96 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 2: I agree that part. I do agree with that last part. 97 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, and oddly enough, I think this story is 98 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 3: proof of it because I remember in the early days 99 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 3: of jeans placing, people are like, now we need to 100 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 3: be very careful because we're playing god here, and what 101 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 3: if people decided And it's like, yeah, they're doing it 102 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 3: now at full speedhead. They're spending tremendous amounts of money 103 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 3: and our best, brightest minds are one hundred percent dedicated 104 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 3: to this. But anyway, so this AI doomsday guy said 105 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 3: he's now considered it turned his considerable brain power to 106 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 3: promoting cutting edge technology to create smarter humans who will 107 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 3: be up to the task of saving us all and 108 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 3: Silicon Valley evidently interest in breeding smarter babies is peaking. 109 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 2: You know what an interesting side to that. I don't 110 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 2: know if they've thought this through. What's your experience with 111 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 2: super smart people? A lot of them are miserable and 112 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 2: nuts in. 113 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 3: My cap Yeah, there's a pretty good share of either miserable, 114 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 3: so anti social, they can't get along with anybody, menfolillness 115 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 3: problems because they're so isolated and they just see the 116 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 3: world so differently than everybody else, and or and I 117 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 3: read this at an early age and it made it 118 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 3: was was it Edison? Somebody had this wonderful quote about 119 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 3: what tools don't bring you success, that it's all about 120 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 3: hard work, and one of them was intelligence unfulfilled. Genius 121 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 3: is a cliche. And so you know, and we're kind 122 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 3: of jumping to the end here, which is fine. She 123 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 3: describes all of the tech CEOs that prefer Ivy League. 124 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 3: They're charging them up to a half million dollars, trying 125 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 3: to get them the smartest woman they can or just 126 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 3: her embryos, and blah blah, blah, So they can have 127 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 3: the smartest kids they could possibly have, so wild. 128 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 2: If I was given the choice, and I would never 129 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 2: want to play god like this with my kid anyway. 130 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 2: But if I was given the choice between a kid 131 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 2: with one sixty IQ or average, I'd go average because 132 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 2: I think I'd be like just committing a kid to 133 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 2: a lifetime of misery. 134 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 3: In large Yeah, in large percentages. Yeah, absolutely true. Well, 135 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 3: and then you know the lack of insight and intelligence 136 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 3: and wisdom are separate traits. I become completely convinced of 137 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 3: that anyway. Not curiosity, Absolutely, You're not breeding for curiosity 138 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 3: or capacity for hard work or morality if that's genetic 139 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 3: morality or dedication to a cause. I'm just thinking from 140 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 3: the perspective of these tech geniuses. Wait a minute, it 141 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 3: was a lot more than intelligence that made you what 142 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 3: you are today. 143 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 2: It's all sorts of traits. God, it's probably intelligence, probably 144 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 2: way down the list of the reason Elon Musker, Elon Musker, 145 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 2: Thomas Edison, or picked your person was able to do 146 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 2: what they did. Like you said, unfulfilled genius is a cliche. 147 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 2: I mean, just there's so many other pieces of the puzzle. 148 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 2: You gotta have, and I remember there was a study 149 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 2: came out made a hell of an impression on me. 150 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:54,839 Speaker 2: And I'm sure there's a whole field of this that 151 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 2: I'm just not familiar with, but. 152 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,359 Speaker 3: The different sorts of intelligence, and I think they separated 153 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 3: it in this seven different sorts at the time that 154 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:10,719 Speaker 3: ranged from like mathematical, musical intelligence, emotional intelligence, athletic intelligence 155 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 3: because it's your brain directing your muscle fibers athletics and 156 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 3: learning and adapting and perfecting a skill. How is athletic 157 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 3: prowess not a form of intelligence since it's all driven 158 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:29,559 Speaker 3: by your brain. Anyway, I had an ultimate point of 159 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 3: just that the sort of d you're too dumb to 160 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 3: remember it. That's that's a big part of it. Yeah, 161 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 3: But how many of those different aspects of intelligence are 162 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 3: necessary or even more important than just raw computing power? 163 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 3: So I mean, because IQ on one level, which is 164 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 3: impossible to measure, you could describe as just chip speed, 165 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 3: how fast, how effectively does your brain function, how fast 166 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 3: does it learn? But that's just one of a number 167 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,839 Speaker 3: of qualities that I think lead to success, even in 168 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 3: you know, a field like tech where everybody's a super genius. 169 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,599 Speaker 2: And the history of the world is all technology is 170 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 2: co opted by the military for military us or porn. 171 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 2: I don't know how this is going to be affected 172 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 2: by porn, but one of the rare cases where I 173 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 2: can't see a porn application for this, but obviously a 174 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,839 Speaker 2: military application. I mean, see all the Marvel movies. If 175 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 2: you could actually breed a super soldier like Bucky and 176 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 2: Captain America are in those movies. China's doing that right now. 177 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, Silicon Valley, they love IQ, said Kean Sidegi, founder 178 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 3: of Nucleus Genomics. 179 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,959 Speaker 2: But again, what is your life experience that leads you 180 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 2: to believe that extra smart people are who you want 181 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:52,719 Speaker 2: around you? 182 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 3: But that's not necessarily what parents elsewhere value most. So 183 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 3: this guy is running one of these companies. You talk 184 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 3: to mom and Papa, Maara. Not every parent is like, 185 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 3: I want my kid to be, you know, a scholar 186 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 3: at Harvard Like, no, I want my kid to be 187 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 3: like Lebron James. 188 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 2: Wow, okay, how much you want your kid? I want 189 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:14,599 Speaker 2: my kid to be happy. I want my kid to 190 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 2: be you know, own a house, be married, have a 191 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 2: couple of kids, make a living, and be happy. That's 192 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 2: what I want. 193 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 3: I say, why don't we pluck this fruit from the 194 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 3: tree of knowledge and wolf it down and then enjoy 195 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 3: its delicious taste. 196 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 4: It's Jack Armstrong and Joe, The Armstrong and Getty Show, 197 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 4: The Armstrong and Getty Show. 198 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,839 Speaker 5: Liz Warrant fell down on the Senate floor yesterday and 199 00:11:52,920 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 5: to everyone's surprise, didn't even yell Geronimo, Indian name is 200 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 5: fall on ass. 201 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 2: That's pretty funny. How y'all doing? 202 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: So? 203 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 2: We got some good Newsy stuff for you. We talked 204 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 2: about this expensive bed on the One More Thing podcast 205 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 2: a while back, this really expensive mattress which oh I 206 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 2: remember that. Yeah, I'll hit you at the price here 207 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:25,599 Speaker 2: in a moment, because if you haven't heard about this, 208 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 2: it's shocking. We actually walked by one of these stores. 209 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 2: It's Houstin's. I don't know how you pronounce it, h 210 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 2: A S T e ns. It's Scandinavian so hi Houston's. 211 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 2: I don't know how they pronounce it. But they don't 212 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 2: have many stores. The beds are ridiculously expensive, and we 213 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 2: walked by one of the stores on Park Avenue in 214 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 2: New York. We were leaving Central Park and we were 215 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 2: walking along all these ridiculously expensive stores and oh my god, 216 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 2: it's one of those bed stores. But you had to 217 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 2: have an appointment, and we were not dressed for people 218 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 2: to go in and look at these kind of mattresses. 219 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 2: I would love to have laid down one. 220 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 3: I don't even know. If they don't let us orry 221 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 3: poor people, we can't allow you in here. 222 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 2: So I don't remember how I came across this over 223 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 2: the weekend, and it it reignited my interest in this 224 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 2: sort of thing that it exists. But so I went 225 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 2: on eBay and there's one available on eBay that's used, 226 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 2: so they only want forty eight thousand dollars for it. 227 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,959 Speaker 2: This used mattress comes with the box spring, so it's 228 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 2: mattress and box spring for forty eight thousand dollars. 229 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 1: No. 230 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, And the owner of it, since I put it 231 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 2: on my watch, sent me an offer yesterday took four 232 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 2: thousand dollars off. They're only asking forty thousand dollars now 233 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 2: for this mattress and box spring. This mattress is made 234 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 2: of horsehair and some particular rare kind of horse and cotton. 235 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 2: It's all natural materials, it is said by reviewers. I 236 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 2: remember when I talked about this on our podcast. The 237 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 2: person who reviewed it, I think for the New York 238 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 2: Times said it's ridiculously overpriced and nobody is ever going 239 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 2: to buy one of these. But it is unlike sleeping 240 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 2: on anything you've ever slept on. It's as if you're suspended. 241 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 2: You're just floating. You can't even tell her or any 242 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 2: there's any pressure on any of your body. 243 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 3: You're just kind of floating there. And it's amazing. 244 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 2: But the original price on this particular mattress in box 245 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 2: Springs that I'm I'm you know, I'm trying. I'm deciding 246 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 2: whether or not to pull the trigger at forty grand 247 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 2: was eighty four thousand dollars eighty three nine eight Please 248 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 2: eighty four thousand dollars for a mattress and box spring. 249 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 3: Look, if you fly private all the time, go ahead 250 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 3: and buy the Horrors hair mattress. 251 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 2: We prefer sex workers hair. 252 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 3: By the way, Jack these horse the Beast of Burden. Oh, 253 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 3: I apologize, I misunderstood, But if that's your lifestyle, go ahead. 254 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 2: If not, that's insane. 255 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 3: Don't you remember that email we got from a gal. 256 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 3: She said, yeah, we bought one of these things, and 257 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 3: you've got to like have the Horrors hair massage every 258 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 3: two weeks. That's the most uncomfortable thing ever. 259 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 2: No, that's part of the upkeep. Yes, you have to 260 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 2: have it. What is it called a rejuvenation or something 261 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 2: like that. Somebody needs to come into your home at 262 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 2: least once a year and re massage it to make it. 263 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 2: But it's just reinterview from somebody who's got one on Reddit. 264 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 2: They said, if you have the person come and rejuvenate 265 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 2: it all the time, it feels they've had it for 266 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 2: four years, feels exactly like it did on day one. 267 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 2: If you don't get it rejuvenated, you have a very 268 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 2: expensive sack of garbage, they said. But wow, I would 269 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 2: like to lay down on one. There's a store in 270 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 2: Silicon Valley, No surprise, I might. I might have to 271 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 2: go over there sometime and I'll I'll wear my suit 272 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 2: jacket and try to look like I belong there and 273 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 2: make an appointment and lay down on one so I 274 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 2: can re pull back. Isn't it amazing though, that anybody 275 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 2: would ever pulled the trigger on a four to eighty 276 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 2: four thousand dollars mattress in box sprint. 277 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 3: Like a lot of things, I think it exists. 278 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 2: So you can mention that you have it, But I 279 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 2: can't believe they sell enough of them to be able 280 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 2: to even be a company. Think you'd sell to a year. 281 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 3: It's at the you know, there are thousands of billionaires, 282 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 3: and every day I don't know that it's a billionaire. 283 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe they get you. 284 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 3: They sleep very you know. 285 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 2: I think if I walk into the I would think 286 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 2: if i'd have walked into that store in Park Avenue, 287 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 2: I'd been the first customer in six months one. 288 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 3: I don't know anyway, you here on purpose, sir? Oh yes, 289 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 3: oh my lord, Oh my god, Oh my god. Okay, okay, okay, 290 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 3: it'll be okay, all right, here we go, right. Yeah, 291 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 3: you know, it's funny. I was just reading that according 292 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 3: to several organizations, companies, people that would know, American consumers 293 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 3: are going way towards thrifty now. A lot of luxury 294 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 3: buying is down, generics are up, Bulk buying is on 295 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 3: the rise. Even your fancier burritos are going unordered in 296 00:16:56,400 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 3: your eateries, Your fancier burritos. Yeah, well, trust me what 297 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 3: I tell you. Like Chipotle, they keep very very careful 298 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 3: track of what is being ordered and what's not, and 299 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 3: they're seeing a trend towards lower dollar orders. 300 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 2: Wow, so maxed out credit cards, student loan payments coming back. 301 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 2: Probably a certain amount of uneasiness about the future that'd 302 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 2: be rated with the Center. I would never buy that 303 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 2: bed anyway, but I would never be able to sleep 304 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 2: because I'd be thinking, God, if the economy really crashes, 305 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 2: I'm going to feel like an idiot on this eighty 306 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 2: three thousand dollars. 307 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 4: Jack Armstrong and Joe, The Armstrong and Getty Show, The 308 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 4: Armstrong and Getty Show. 309 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 2: I saw some of the pushback there in Venice about 310 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 2: the Bezos and his wife wedding. There's a lot of protesters. 311 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 2: They unfurled a giant sign in the middle of whatever 312 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 2: square that was there. 313 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 3: Did it say how much work is too much? With 314 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 3: a picture of her face? 315 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 2: Now there's a giant sign that said, if you can 316 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 2: afford this wedding, you can afford to pay more taxes. Okay, 317 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 2: all right? 318 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 3: Anyway, So some fairly shocking economic numbers out about the 319 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 3: purchasing the spending of eighteen to twenty four year old adults. 320 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 3: It fell thirteen percent year over year, thirteen percent a lot. 321 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 3: It's a huge drop spending my older groups is still 322 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 3: on the rise, but has slowed significantly. They mentioned a 323 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,479 Speaker 3: combination of economic challenges. Young grads are having a much 324 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 3: tougher tougher time finding jobs, student loan payments are restarting 325 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 3: for millions of borrowers that for that crowd. 326 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 2: I know a few people in that situation, and it 327 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 2: has been quite the shock to their system, because I 328 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 2: know some people with some pretty big nuts, if you'll 329 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 2: pardon the expression, that they've got to be able to meet. 330 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 2: And all of a sudden, you have a five hundred 331 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 2: dollars a month bill that you didn't have before, and 332 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 2: you somehow were convinced by an ancient president you were 333 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 2: never gonna have to pay. 334 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 3: Right, little aoc and the mummy president convinced you that 335 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 3: you shouldn't have to pay those It's unjust. Yeah, people 336 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 3: they believe that stuff, which is why I warned my kids. 337 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 2: Don't believe it. 338 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 3: Man. 339 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 2: This could be and that could be a lot of it. 340 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 2: You are not spending money on going out to eat, 341 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 2: in concerts and maybe travel. If all of a sudden 342 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 2: you're paying an extra five hundred to one thousand dollars 343 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 2: a month. 344 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 3: No need to speculate I have those numbers. You're absolutely right. Plus, 345 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 3: over the roughly of the past year, credit card delinquency 346 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 3: rates have risen to the highest points since pre pandemic 347 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 3: levels highest for those eighteen to twenty nine years of age. 348 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 3: They quote a bunch of experts and economists. Expenditures this 349 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 3: is among eighteen to twenty four year olds on video 350 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 3: games is down twenty four percent, twenty three percent year 351 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 3: over year. We're the rest of those numbers. Apparel is 352 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 3: down eleven percent. Accessories is down eighteen percent. Oh, they 353 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:10,360 Speaker 3: don't get how important it is to accessorize well accessories 354 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 3: I Technology is down fourteen percent. Small appliances down almost 355 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 3: twenty percent. Now I was going to get a toaster, 356 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 3: but I guess I won't small appliances. I like those 357 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 3: kind of statistics, but like my own anecdote dot evidence, 358 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 3: and this is completely anecdotal. I live in a wealthy 359 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 3: college town. 360 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: The gout. 361 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 2: These college kids are out to eat all the time, 362 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 2: dressed cool, talking on thousand dollars phones. That's not what 363 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 2: I was doing when I was in college. I was 364 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 2: eating beanie. Whenis five cans for a dollar from the 365 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 2: food club to get by I wasn't going out to 366 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 2: eat every day at expensive restaurants, which is what happens 367 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 2: in my college. But again that's anecdotal. But yeah, I 368 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 2: would say that is that is the anecdote that misleads. Honestly, Well, 369 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 2: you can't deny that they're There are a lot of 370 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 2: people living lifestyles you shouldn't lead at that age or 371 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 2: income level, and. 372 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,479 Speaker 3: That's why you're in financial trouble. Hence the credit card 373 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 3: to language. Yeah, yeah, absolutely true. Yeah, it's all part 374 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 3: of the same too. I was just thinking about the 375 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 3: shocking number of foreign students paying full tuition and snapping 376 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 3: up spots that American students could have in university after university. 377 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 3: I saw some of those statistics recently, and they're unbelievable anyway, 378 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 3: So take a look look for that as a continuing 379 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 3: maybe I should add into my commentary. I know, and 380 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 3: this is taking anecdotal to another level. 381 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 2: But I know at least a half a dozen people 382 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 2: that are in that group who tell me how broke 383 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 2: they are all the time, or how they could use 384 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 2: more hours if they could get them, because they're really 385 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 2: in tough financial straits. I think you live like you're 386 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 2: a forty five year old with a really good job 387 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 2: and you're twenty. Yeah, so maybe you wouldn't be in 388 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 2: a bind if you didn't. Yeah. 389 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 3: Actually, that is the part of the article I should 390 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 3: have told you. The headline is Goodbye fancy bar, Hello 391 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 3: at home pizza party. Young Americans cut back. Yeah, okay, yeah, 392 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 3: and they have to obviously. So let's talk about the 393 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 3: super rich Jack the other end of the economic scale, 394 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 3: the rich and their prenuptial agreements. Attorneys say prenups are 395 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 3: only becoming more common for people of all wealth levels, 396 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 3: but for those with net worths that are nine figures 397 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 3: or larger. That would be one hundred million bucks, right, 398 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 3: nine figures? 399 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 2: Wow? 400 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 3: Okay, Those agreements become sophisticated legal instruments to protect assets, business, vampires, 401 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 3: and finally, family dynasties. 402 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 2: I don't know what I think about prenups. I really don't. 403 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 2: I've gone back and forth on my I personally would 404 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 2: be much better off if I had done it, but 405 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:56,360 Speaker 2: I don't ever really think that I wish I had. 406 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. 407 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 3: So I know a little bit about prenups, but not 408 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 3: very much. Having been married since we're eleven, years old. 409 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 3: But here's some examples. Prenups can dictate who gets up 410 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 3: that's Kanye. Ah, yes, that's the great philosopher Kanye. Prenups 411 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 3: can dictate who gets access to the private jet, how 412 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 3: the thoroughbred horses are cared for, and who gets to 413 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 3: say what about the divorce on social media. The embedded 414 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 3: confidential reality agreement can even prohibit disclosing the existence of 415 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 3: the prenup itself. 416 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 2: Well, that's funny. You have to have a prenup that 417 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 2: includes who gets to say what on social media, as 418 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 2: Kanye would say, because when she leaves your. 419 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 3: Ass, she's gonna leave with that. Oh well, said Gay. 420 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 3: Ultra wealthy prenups must address as assets that can't be 421 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 3: easily split or sold. Don't worry, we'll get caddy in 422 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 3: a second, such as startup equity that can't be traded 423 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 3: in public markets, carry the interest in private equity funds, 424 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 3: royalty streams from intellectual property, and family trusts with complex 425 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 3: distribution rules, and if you don't have like crazy planning, 426 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 3: the distributing those assets can lead to painful trade offs, 427 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 3: to financial tradeoffs, not to mention years, if not decades, 428 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 3: long legal battles and everybody in the family ending up 429 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 3: hating each other. It's it's tough to generate too much 430 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 3: sympathy for the ultra wealthy. But eh, what are you 431 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 3: gonna do? 432 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 2: She says she's gonna buy Tyit Goo with your money, 433 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 2: but she only gets light bulb with your money, money money. 434 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 2: Who has listened to gold Digger one thousand times? 435 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 5: I have? 436 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 2: That's who? 437 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 3: Oh well, it's a catchy too, and I understand the appeal. 438 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 3: So where is the where's my favorite part? Oh? 439 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 2: Here you go. 440 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 3: Prenups can lay out who in a divorce supervises the 441 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 3: packing of personal belongings. 442 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 2: Wow, God, that would be awful. Can you imagine anything 443 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 2: worse than getting down to those details of argument or. 444 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 3: Or require a spouse to move out within thirty days? 445 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 3: So before your nuptials, you are saying you're negotiating, All right, Look, 446 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 3: when and if we get divorced, I will be in 447 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 3: charge of hiring the company that packs up all of 448 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 3: your belongings to move them out, because I don't once 449 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 3: you're stealing anything. 450 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 2: Ah, right, And you're gonna have that conversation while you're 451 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 2: all in love, right right? I love you? I love 452 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 2: you too. Let me look deep into your eyes while 453 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 2: you look deep into my eyes. You know, if we 454 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 2: ever split up, and I think there's a decent chance 455 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,719 Speaker 2: we do, I think you'd probably steal. So I got 456 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 2: this piece of paper that says somebody needs to watch you, and. 457 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 3: I'll need you to move out within two weeks. 458 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 2: Two weeks. 459 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 3: I gotta find a place to live, all right, four weeks, look, 460 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 3: make it a month, make it thirty days, all right, 461 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 3: I know, right, you gotta be out within thirty days. 462 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 2: Here's a good one. I know someone who got hit 463 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 2: with the prenup like just two weeks before the wedding, 464 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 2: had never come up in conversation before the idea of it, 465 00:25:58,359 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 2: and then they got to I'm gonna want you to 466 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 2: sign this, and then it was like too late to 467 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 2: pull the plug. I mean you could, obviously, but it's 468 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 2: a lot harder to sure. Yeah, some clients demand that 469 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 2: their prenups. 470 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 3: Here we go stipulate that a spouse maintain a specific weight, 471 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 3: you say, within twenty pounds of what it was on 472 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 3: the wedding day. 473 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 2: Oh, that's fantastic a prenup weight agreement. Honey, I'm gonna 474 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,719 Speaker 2: need you to come on and step on the scale 475 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 2: looking like that might be breaking some rules. It's an 476 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 2: excellent point, Katie, to enforce the prenup. If anybody's getting close, 477 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 2: somebody's got to say, all right, we need to have 478 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 2: a way. I put in the pre nup. I would 479 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 2: never do this, but if you were going to the 480 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 2: only way to make this less contentious was part of 481 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 2: the prenup is we have to have weekly weigh in 482 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:50,719 Speaker 2: both of us. 483 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 3: Right, Well, one thing is you go ahead. 484 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 2: Otherwise you end up in a situation. Hey, katie's talking 485 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 2: about Hey, I just noticed when we were at the 486 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 2: pool on big look like you a little. 487 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 3: Porky there street heart. 488 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 489 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 3: One common thing is you've got to stay within twenty 490 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 3: pounds of what you are on the wedding day. 491 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,959 Speaker 2: Or what. I don't know me. I saw you come 492 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 2: out of the sauna, and if you're not two ten, 493 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 2: my name's Marco Rubio. I mean, so I think we 494 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 2: should get the scale out well. 495 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 3: And if you're looking for a trophy wife or a 496 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 3: husband or something, I mean that just that ends. Is 497 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 3: she just is he just marrying me because I'm young 498 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 3: and hot? Well, yes, yes, it's being made very very 499 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 3: clear here. If you gain twenty one pounds. You're in 500 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 3: violation of the prenup and you lose your rights to 501 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 3: god knows, I don't know the house, the car, money, whatever, 502 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 3: or it says you've got. Well, for instance, here's another 503 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 3: one a prenups. There's one prenups says you agree to 504 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 3: exercise four times a week during the marriage. 505 00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 2: That one seems hard to enforce. 506 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 3: Again, there's got to be a subclause about if you 507 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 3: have the flu or a similar disease. Others want financial 508 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 3: penalties for cheating. One attorney described a client seeking a 509 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 3: million dollar payment for each affair. 510 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 2: See that's you know, some states have that. That's one 511 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 2: of the problems that you get into the So if 512 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 2: one person cheats and then you go through the divorce 513 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 2: laws where they are and you're gonna get lose half 514 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 2: your stuff for somebody who violated the vows, that just 515 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 2: seems so incredibly uncool to me. 516 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 3: But on the other side of it, here's an Atlanta attorney, Well, 517 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 3: go ahead, did you have one more point on that? 518 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 2: Well, I'm not a misogynist like you, so I wanted 519 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 2: to point out that it could be the other direction 520 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 2: for the weight gain. I've known a number of women 521 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 2: who are very unhappy that they got married in their 522 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 2: husband's game, like fifty pounds, Eh, what are you gonna do? Anyway? 523 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 3: Here's an Atlanta based divorce attorney. He alreadycounts a professional 524 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 3: basketball player client who insisted his prenup acknowledge that quote. 525 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 3: NBA players are known to have a fait, so cheating 526 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 3: could not trigger costly cos it was a get out 527 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 3: of jail free. Or you know I'm going to have 528 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 3: affairs clause in the prenup. Well why even get married? 529 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 2: I know I got no success to lean on as 530 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 2: a but I just, yeah, I can't imagine you get 531 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 2: all that taken care of, and now you're walking down 532 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 2: the aisle storry eyed and happy with each other. Happiest 533 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 2: day of my life now that we've worked out that 534 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 2: you can't gain more than ten pounds, or I'll put 535 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 2: you on the scale and hold you to it, or 536 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 2: you know all these other different things. Well, I need 537 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 2: to be watched while I pack boxes if we do 538 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 2: split up, because I can't be trusted. I mean, where's 539 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 2: the magic. 540 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 3: Nothing says love like getting the lawyers involved. And here's 541 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 3: a New York to Forest attorney. A woman who says 542 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 3: every prenuptial agreement is a power play. It's exciting for 543 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 3: them to have this control, but the leverage goes to 544 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 3: whoever cares less about the marriage. If you're willing to 545 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 3: walk away, you hold all the cards. 546 00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 2: Wow. Wow, that's row. That is so foreign to my 547 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 2: life experience. Yeah, I know, I'm so lucky. 548 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 3: Whoever cares less about the marriage holds all the cards. 549 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 2: Yes, thanks, I'm sorry, I think because it what I agree. 550 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 2: But you know I'm not married, so I haven't pulled 551 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 2: it off. I think you got to sneak it in. 552 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 5: You do. 553 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 2: Like I weighed my truck the other day on a 554 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 2: truck scale. And know if you've ever been on a 555 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 2: truck scale, but it just it looks like the driveway. 556 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 2: It's just that the driveway floats. And so you gotta 557 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 2: do that. Under their chair at the table or like 558 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 2: the easy chair where they watch television. You make that 559 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 2: a scale, have a digital readout on the back of 560 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 2: it or on you you know, yeah, ip a n 561 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 2: app on your phone, so they sit in their chair 562 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 2: and think one ninety five. Okay, man, he's two pounds away. Yeah, 563 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 2: a digital readout on your couch. 564 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 5: There you go. 565 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 2: You need to secretly weigh him. That's my point. She 566 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 2: sits down. 567 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 3: Oh you know, I found the salad recipe for dinner. 568 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 3: It's gonna be great. 569 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 2: I can't believe a weight guarantee of the pre nup. 570 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 2: That's a funny one. Wow oof love. 571 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: More on the waysty here, The Armstrong and Getty Show, 572 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: more Jack your Shoe podcasts and our hot links. 573 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 4: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty The Armstrong. 574 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 2: And Getty Show. 575 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: Thank you. 576 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 3: Wow wow. So my investigative journalism is paid off. Yet 577 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 3: another key fact that makes the hot, self important drunk 578 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 3: chicks in Rhode Island story even more hilarious. 579 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 2: Okay, I wasn't sure in what order to. 580 00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 3: List those adjectives hot, drunk, self important chicks. 581 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 2: I think the hot part because you only get traction 582 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 2: at all, because you're a hot chick with this sort 583 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 2: of behavior. 584 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 3: Right, militant, loud, nasty looking chick or exhibits this sort 585 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 3: of behavior too. In political settings lately, it's the angry 586 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 3: grad school lunatic screaming at the cops, what are you doing? 587 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 3: What are you doing? 588 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 2: Are you're arrested? That's some you know, pro hamas rally 589 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 2: or something like that. 590 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 3: It's kind of a cousin to the drunk, self important 591 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 3: hot chick syndrome. 592 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 2: Anyway, So here's the question for you. 593 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 3: First of all, you know more about drunks in general 594 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 3: than I do. These women, particularly the special Assistant Attorney 595 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 3: General name of Devon Hogan Flanagan. 596 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 2: Who is who's busted by the cops? You know what 597 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 2: I'll ask my question after we played the tape. 598 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 3: Go ahead, Michael, this is what it sounded like, the 599 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 3: cops trying to get them to leave a restaurant. 600 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 2: You're trust mess. We gotta leave now. Number one, you're 601 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 2: not going to rest us. Number two, we got. 602 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 3: I'm an aging. 603 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 2: Good for you, let's go leaving. 604 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: Off. 605 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 2: I'm an aging. 606 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 3: The fact that she apparents can I buy those cops 607 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 3: a drink place? I would like to sit down and 608 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 3: enjoy a libation with you, fellas well done. 609 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 2: The fact that she literally seems to believe that as 610 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 2: the Attorney General, the. 611 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 3: Top mission assistant attorney General. 612 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 2: But well, she's saying, i'm an age anyway, you're part 613 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 2: of the top cop office, that the laws don't apply 614 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 2: to you. I mean, that's what you're saying. That it's 615 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 2: a heck of a thing to say out loud. 616 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 3: Well, and here's my favorite part of it, other than 617 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 3: that they tried to show that they indeed were the 618 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 3: reasonable ones by trying to kick out the windows in 619 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 3: the cop car. The cops had told them repeatedly, I 620 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 3: don't want to arrest you. 621 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 2: All you have to do is go. 622 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 3: They've asked you to leave, Just go. I don't want 623 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,800 Speaker 3: to arrest you. You're not going to arrest us. Okay, 624 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 3: so let's leave. We gotta go, We gotta go. 625 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 2: The officer replies, no, you can't make us. 626 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 3: You can't arrest us. 627 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,399 Speaker 2: I don't want to arrest you. Just leave. 628 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 3: See the no, No, they had to sit there. 629 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 2: The normal drunken reaction to that would be, WHOA, I 630 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 2: have really lucked out here that all they're doing is 631 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 2: asking me to leave. I am going to get out 632 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 2: of here to avoid any further problems. 633 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 3: Well, and just again give you a sense of how 634 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 3: it was inside the restaurant, the following exchange took place. 635 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 3: The cop can be heard on the camera asking a 636 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,840 Speaker 3: restaurant employee do you just want them out? Do you 637 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 3: want them trespassed? The employee says, anything we can do trespass. Yes, 638 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 3: So here's the question for you, as a guy who's 639 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:27,399 Speaker 3: somewhat familiar with overin bibers, these two hobbies will take 640 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 3: complete responsibility quote unquote, and say I have a problem 641 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 3: with alcohol. I am an alcoholic. 642 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 2: It is a disease. 643 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 3: You wouldn't You wouldn't fire somebody for having a disease? 644 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 2: Would you? 645 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 3: If I had COVID? Would you fire me? 646 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 2: No, it's a disease. 647 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:52,320 Speaker 3: Is the primary problem that they're drunks or is it 648 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 3: hard to separate? 649 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: No? 650 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 2: No, No, it's not. 651 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:56,240 Speaker 3: Or is it that they're a holes? 652 00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 2: It's their a holes. I've known thousands of drunks. There's 653 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,320 Speaker 2: only a certain personality that ever acts 654 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,879 Speaker 1: The Armstrong and Getty show, Yeah or Jack or Joe 655 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 1: podcasts and our hotlinks and