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Speaker 1: It's a league fifteen to ten touched up sacks. Well,

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Speaker 1: what's up, guys?

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Speaker 2: Welcome into a brand new episode of Charges Weekly, as always,

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Speaker 2: joined by Matt Muddy Spit Money.

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Speaker 1: Has been a while since you and I did this pod.

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Speaker 2: I think Indy was our last stop together, and man,

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Speaker 2: so much has transpired. You and Popper did a great

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Speaker 2: episode of Charges Weekly last Thursday. A few hours later

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Speaker 2: we get the news of Keenan Allen traded to the

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Speaker 2: Chicago Bears, and I think that's probably the obvious starting point.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think I'll start with I didn't know

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Speaker 3: what happened to you. You know, I didn't know if

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Speaker 3: one of those teams plucked you and stole you from us,

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Speaker 3: because we were surrounded by the Raiders and the Titans

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Speaker 3: and the Jags and the Texans and we're all getting

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Speaker 3: all buddy buddy, and I was like, wow, maybe maybe

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Speaker 3: Chris got an offer and he just ghosted us that

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Speaker 3: little Irish good bye. Here in the Saint Patrick's day time.

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Speaker 1: This all the broad shoulder, you know, spring Christen for

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Speaker 3: Right, exactly right, But yeah, a huge thank you to

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Speaker 3: lan Zerline did it two weeks ago. Coming out of

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Speaker 3: the combine. They think Popper last week and great pods.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate those guys for helping us out there for a

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Speaker 3: couple of weeks, but you know, the Popper pod was great.

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Speaker 3: We ended up doing like an hour and fifteen minutes

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Speaker 3: out with what little money they had, and yeah, about

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Speaker 3: five to six hours later, that whole pod was Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it was. It was a bummer, is what it was.

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Speaker 3: Because it's not just the departure of Keenan, but it's

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Speaker 3: the money. I mean, the fact that you're able to

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Speaker 3: trade him. It's not that's the thing that people are,

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Speaker 3: you know, Like I just posted the TV show I'd

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Speaker 3: do with Lorenzo on Balley's that that airs for Believe,

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Speaker 3: and and the title on there was sort of a

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Speaker 3: longer form conversation. But someone had wrote, well, with it

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Speaker 3: was a second or a third, I would have felt

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Speaker 3: don't don't look at it as a fourth look at

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Speaker 3: it as a fourth and twenty four million dollars, Like

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Speaker 3: someone took twenty four million dollars that's going to be

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Speaker 3: paid to a thirty two year old receiver in the

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Speaker 3: last year of his deal. And that's that's why, that's

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Speaker 3: why Justin Fields could only fetch a sixth because he's

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Speaker 3: up that twenty five million dollar fifty year option or

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Speaker 3: it's the last year. So that's I think it's important

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Speaker 3: for people to remember the compensation is lower because the

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Speaker 3: contract status, the amount of money, the thirty two year

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Speaker 3: old age at the start of the season, like, there's

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Speaker 3: so many things that go into it. So look at

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Speaker 3: it as yes, the Bears not only gave the Chargers

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Speaker 3: a fourth, but they took all twenty four million dollars

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Speaker 3: off that cap and you know, well took the well

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Speaker 3: technically thirty two million dollars, it's really twenty four of

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Speaker 3: money that goes out, and so that's that's what the

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Speaker 3: Chargers get back in return, is after they get thirty

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Speaker 3: nine million dollars of relief with the restructures to Joey

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Speaker 3: and Khalil, with the trading of Keenan, you take in

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Speaker 3: the fourteen million dollar rookie pool as it's projected right now,

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Speaker 3: if they stick with all of their picks and you've

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Speaker 3: got twenty five million bucks to spend, you've got twenty

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Speaker 2: Now, buddy, There's just a lot of emotion I think

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Speaker 2: involved in this decision for Chargers fans, and I get it,

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Speaker 2: keen It was the longest tenured Charger. You want to

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Speaker 2: talk about, Maybe best Charger receiver of all time is

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Speaker 2: a guy named Ye Bamby who's in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: But what Keenan has done in this era, his consistency,

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Speaker 2: I think Chargers fans wanted to see Keenan and Powder

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Speaker 2: I both both sides were correct. Keenan was correct and

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Speaker 1: Are directly related to the salary cap and.

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Speaker 2: Moving forward in a way where you are, you're a

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Speaker 2: we probably assumed that that was going to be the case.

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Speaker 2: But the Charges elected to restructure. Joey and Khalil and

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Speaker 3: So you put it perfectly, Chris, in terms of the

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Speaker 3: I'm not taking a pay cut, But you go in

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Speaker 3: knowing that when you say that, you're probably gone. You know,

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Speaker 3: We're going to convert some to signing bonus. But if

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Speaker 4: I do. I believe in him.

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Speaker 3: Anytime that guy was asked to step in as a

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Speaker 3: And I got no problem with trying to get him

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Speaker 3: at a bargain rate, you know, considering what, like I said,

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Speaker 3: those Calvin Ridley deals look like what these extensions have

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Speaker 2: So it's March twenty first, and I think, when fancy

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Speaker 2: get a little panic because you know Justin's top three

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Speaker 1: But it's Mars twenty first.

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Speaker 2: Okay, And now that Mike is out and Keenan is

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Speaker 1: Is this is a philosophical move.

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Speaker 2: I think two to get rid of these two wide receivers,

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Speaker 1: So it gives.

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Speaker 2: trading out of five. Now, if Marvin Harrison Junior is

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Speaker 2: people are saying Neighbors is the number one receiver in

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Speaker 2: this draft, not Harrison.

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Speaker 1: Roma Dunza, who we've talked about.

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Speaker 2: It would give me pause to trade back more than

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Speaker 2: why we always say free agency dictates a lot of

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Speaker 2: what we see in the draft, and certainly this week

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Speaker 3: Sure, so I'm gonna I'm gonna get into it. And

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Speaker 3: we've done this, yeah, you know, repeatedly week after week.

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Speaker 3: there was this wave and I look and I get it,

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Speaker 3: you know, I totally get it. But let's just look

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Speaker 3: at the Super Bowl champion Chiefs. Who's their number one

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Speaker 3: you know, who's their who's their number two option. It's

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Speaker 2: Money for the sake of that conversation, the Chargers would

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Speaker 2: if we're we're saying Caleb Williams, Jayden Daniels, Drake May

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Speaker 3: And I think that's where it's going to be interesting, right, Chris,

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Speaker 3: No one else needs to see anything. Here's what I have.

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Speaker 3: And it's always important to remember that. You know, right, Chris,

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Speaker 1: Well, it's well for hardball too. I mean it starts

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Speaker 2: it's probably a little jarring to see Keenan Allen excuse

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Speaker 2: And that requires an overhaul and a deconstruction. And this

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Speaker 3: Right, And that's like, that's one of the things that

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Speaker 3: don't fault them, like I understand that, I understand, I

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Speaker 4: As best as possible.

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Speaker 3: This is my philosophy, and this is how we're gonna

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Speaker 3: Let's see if the guy who's done it everywhere he's

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Speaker 3: give me eleven, twenty three, twenty seven, thirty five. We're

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Speaker 1: To draft a a top quality wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: Justin Jeffson is about to get thirty three million dollars,

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Speaker 2: Justin Herbert as your quarterback, you got a guy who's

434
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Speaker 2: blowing it up for a fraction of the costs. So

435
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,199
Speaker 2: it's all about business too. Like the emotion of this

436
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 2: and seeing guys that you used to seeing in a

437
00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 2: charger's uniform, you have to kind of put that aside

438
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 2: and compartmentalize that rather and understand that there's a business

439
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 2: to this and there's a method to all the madness

440
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Speaker 2: to set this team up for long term success.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny, so I'm gonna steal this from Joel Klatt,

442
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Speaker 3: but it's also something that we've been talking about. So

443
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Speaker 3: be sure you go check out Joels and we'll have

444
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 3: to get him on the Pott He's great, obviously, And look,

445
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 3: he's done all these Michigan games. He's sat in a

446
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Speaker 3: room production meeting with Jim Harbaugh god knows how many

447
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,680
Speaker 3: times because they're doing big noon and he's the lead analyst.

448
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Speaker 3: But Joel made the point that we've been making that

449
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Speaker 3: I've been making, you know, over the start of this podcast,

450
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Speaker 3: but I feel like we've been discussing for the last

451
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Speaker 3: two months.

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Speaker 4: In his mock.

453
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Speaker 3: Draft, so he's got the Chargers trading back with the Vikings,

454
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Speaker 3: the Vikings get their quarterback and JJ McCarthy and he's

455
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Speaker 3: like at eleven and he's still got elite neighbors on

456
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Speaker 3: his board. But at eleven, who does he draft brock Bauers.

457
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Speaker 3: He's like, Jim Harbaugh's is not a wide receiver guy.

458
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 3: Jim Harbaugh is a tight end guy. He likes on

459
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Speaker 3: his offense. He likes the conundrum and the confusion that

460
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Speaker 3: a player like that makes, much more so than a

461
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Speaker 3: number one receiver. And he's talking about you know, and

462
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Speaker 3: and in his his pot he's like, look, I gave

463
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Speaker 3: him Bowers at five, even though it was Rich.

464
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Speaker 4: I'm like, this is Harbaugh's guy.

465
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Speaker 3: He has built for what Harbaugh wants to do and

466
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Speaker 3: knowing what you know what Justin Herbert is capable of doing.

467
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Speaker 3: And I think it's so important to put it into

468
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Speaker 3: the context of I think there's two ways you can

469
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Speaker 3: frame it. One Travis Kelsey, Patrick Mahomes. Once they got

470
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Speaker 3: rid of Tyreek Hill, that wide receiver went out, but

471
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Speaker 3: they still, like think about it, they still had Travis Kelsey,

472
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Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes. That was still the ultimate mismatch. The teams

473
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Speaker 3: did not have an answer for it. So think of

474
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Speaker 3: it through that lens. Justin Herbert brock Bauer's equals Patrick Mahomes,

475
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Speaker 3: Travis Kelcey, Andy Reid is still capable of creating conflict

476
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Speaker 3: with that matchup, even though he doesn't have a number

477
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Speaker 3: one wide receiver. So you want that clearly, that's something

478
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Speaker 3: that has value in the league because they've been able

479
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 3: to do it in Kansas City for the last seven years.

480
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Speaker 3: You know, with Travis Kelsey, he's been the straw that

481
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Speaker 3: stirs the drink, not Tyreek Hill when it comes to

482
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Speaker 3: what Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid have used to totally

483
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Speaker 3: bust teams defenses up. So you've got that. The other

484
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Speaker 3: side of that is just everywhere that he's been, everywhere

485
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 3: Jim Harbaugh has been, it has not been a number

486
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Speaker 3: one ride receiver. But there have been the tight ends.

487
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Speaker 3: You know, there have been the Kobe Fleeeners, the Vernon Davis.

488
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Speaker 3: Now look I and and you know in San Francisco

489
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 3: it was Vernon Davis Jake Butt at Michigan before he

490
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Speaker 3: had all the injuries that derailed his NFL career to

491
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Speaker 3: some degree, Like that's what it's been. It hasn't been

492
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Speaker 3: you know, it hasn't been wide receiver quarterback. It's been

493
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Speaker 3: tight end quarterback. So maybe don't think so much about

494
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Speaker 3: the the you know, the outside receiver as oh, here's

495
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Speaker 3: an interesting weapon. And if we can trade back and

496
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Speaker 3: like DJ hashim trading back with with the Jets for

497
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Speaker 3: Fuaga the tackle and which which I love, by the way,

498
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Speaker 3: one hundred percent. You know, go get the tackle, four

499
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Speaker 3: to five the line, get that thing settled for the

500
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Speaker 3: next ten years. You know, to me, that makes sense

501
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Speaker 3: as well. So I think there's a lot of different

502
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Speaker 3: ways you can go about it. But you know, and

503
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Speaker 3: in terms of DJ's mock draft, look, I'm not going

504
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Speaker 3: to push back on him. That guy's forgotten. You know

505
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 3: has forgotten more football than I'll ever know. But I

506
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 3: need I need pretty much like he said. So I

507
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Speaker 3: think he had them trading back to ten and picking

508
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Speaker 3: up the Jets' second rounder next year, because that's what

509
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Speaker 3: the Jimmy Johnson chart shows. That chart's going to need

510
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Speaker 3: to be crumpled up and thrown out because just because

511
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Speaker 3: the money has changed so much from when that chart

512
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Speaker 3: was built. And if you're trading up to get a

513
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Speaker 3: wide receiver at five that you're now going to have

514
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Speaker 3: cost control on for five years, knowing what these contracts

515
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Speaker 3: look like, if you're you know you, the Vikings get

516
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Speaker 3: Justin Jefferson at twenty two at at a million bucks

517
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Speaker 3: a year for all of these like, it's just worth more.

518
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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, it is worth more than what that chart

519
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 3: dictates because of how much money you're saving for these

520
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 3: blue chip players. So if I'm giving up five, I

521
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 3: need a heck of a lot more than next year's

522
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Speaker 3: number two from a team that now has Aaron Rodgers

523
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Speaker 3: and Tyron Smith and Morgan Moses. And you're gonna get sorry,

524
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Speaker 3: I need more than the number two and twenty twenty five,

525
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Speaker 3: you're giving me your one next year?

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Speaker 4: If you want to do that money.

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Speaker 1: So that's what I was just gonna say.

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Speaker 2: What's funny about that that mock draft, it was, it

529
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 2: was chaos. The Jets took a receiver at five. I

530
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Speaker 2: think later that day Mike Williams signed.

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Speaker 1: Right the Jets right.

532
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Speaker 2: So exactly, we have so much draft stuff to digest,

533
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Speaker 2: and I really want to over the next month to

534
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 2: really dig in on these titands because like we'll talk

535
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 2: about Disley and Hayden Hurst in that room and what

536
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 2: a brock Bowers could mean to that room. But just

537
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 2: to put a pin in some of the guys who

538
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 2: have left as the voice of the Chargers made You've

539
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 2: You've called some amazing games.

540
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Speaker 1: I just I remember my favorite call.

541
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,919
Speaker 2: I always tell you it's the Kansas City call with

542
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 2: Mike Williams, the two point conversion, just countless cannon games.

543
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 2: I remember the one in twenty eighteen Pittsburgh and where

544
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 2: he had a million catches to come back and beat

545
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh on the road a couple of years ago in Philly,

546
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 2: just money on third down.

547
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Speaker 1: That Minnesota game this.

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Speaker 2: Year, just maybe I just kind of reflect on some

549
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 2: of the guys, you know, I give Austin a lot

550
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 2: of credit for what he did here. You know, an

551
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 2: undrafted free agent in twenty seventeen worked his way up

552
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 2: to a role and it was a big part of

553
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 2: this community. Michael Davis same year, twenty seventeen, undrafted free agent.

554
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Speaker 2: But those guys go to Washington.

555
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: So anything you.

556
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Speaker 2: Want to say about the guys who left, who I

557
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 2: know you have personal relationships with and you got to

558
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 2: call some amazing games.

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Speaker 3: Yes's look, that's the sad part of it, right is

560
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 3: you know, selfishly, the idea that when their number gets

561
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 3: retired or they are inducted into the Charger Hall of Fame,

562
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 3: that those are the calls that are going to be

563
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 3: played on the on the big scoreboard, it's gonna be

564
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 3: my voice. And like, yeah, selfishly, it's a bummer, you

565
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 3: know that that Now some of that is adjusted a

566
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 3: little bit because they're gonna be because Keenan's gonna wear

567
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 3: a bear uniform and and Mike Williams is likely gonna

568
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 3: wear a jet in probably another uniform after that would

569
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Speaker 3: be my guess and Sae with Keenan, you know, perhaps

570
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 3: after that, so it it it dilutes it a little bit,

571
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 3: but you're just thankful for the moments that those guys

572
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 3: delivered for you, that that they gave you to. All

573
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 3: I'm doing is describing what I see in front of me.

574
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 3: They're the ones that do all the hard work to

575
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 3: make it happen. But yeah, I'm gonna miss it. I'm mean,

576
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 3: we just had it with the Minnesota game with Keenan

577
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 3: and a double pass to Mike Williams in that game.

578
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 3: No less, you know that those those moments are are gone,

579
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Speaker 3: and it's it's a it's yeah, it's it's certainly bittersweet.

580
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 3: And I think for me having you know, having worked

581
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Speaker 3: with the Lakers and you worked there as as well, Chris,

582
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 3: so you know, like I watched some trade shack, you know,

583
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 3: Shaquille O'Neill. So that just sets the tone, you know,

584
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Speaker 3: for for anything else moving forward. Ladanian Tomlinson was a

585
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 3: Jet for a while, like Philip Rivers was a cult

586
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Speaker 3: for a couple of years.

587
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 4: Like it happened.

588
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 3: It's and it's not like it's limited to the to

589
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Speaker 3: the Chargers. I mean, Aaron Rodgers is a jet. He

590
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 3: is not a packer.

591
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Speaker 4: He is.

592
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 3: Montana was a chief, you know, like yeah, that's Jerry

593
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 3: Rice was a Bronco. You know, it was a raider

594
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 3: like that, Like, you know, there's there's weird stuff that

595
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 3: that that happens. You know, Roger Craig was a chief.

596
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's it's it's the nature of this game

597
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 3: where it is very hard. Very few people, you know,

598
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 3: very few players are able to sustain later in their careers,

599
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 3: and that makes it tough for teams. You don't want

600
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 3: to play. You don't want to pay the player for

601
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 3: what he did. You want to pay him for what

602
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 3: he's going to do. And it's it's a harsh reality.

603
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 3: You can you can get away with it a little

604
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 3: bit in the other sports because they have soft caps.

605
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 4: The NFL does not.

606
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 3: The NFL has a hard salary cap, and it makes

607
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 3: it a little bit harder to keep those players around

608
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 3: for sentimental reasons. But for I don't want people to

609
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 3: think that I'm you know that I just don't care.

610
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 3: Like whatever Keenan's gone, who cares? No, of course, I want,

611
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 3: you know, the captain, like I would love making those

612
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 3: calls like it's a you know, and I so yes,

613
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 3: I'm I'm bummed, But at the same time, I am ready.

614
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 3: Since twenty seventeen, I've been able to call two playoffs,

615
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 3: and in those two playoffs there have been three games

616
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 3: and one win. So I think the individual players, the

617
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 3: individual calls will always be trumped by the playoff moments

618
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 3: and the big plays in the postseason that lead to

619
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Speaker 3: the divisional round, to the championship round, to a super Bowl,

620
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 3: to a championship if when they hired these two people,

621
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Speaker 3: I want to just again remind the folks listening to

622
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 3: the pod. Hey, let's not forget how adamant you were

623
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 3: about Harbaugh and no one else it was. It was

624
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 3: Jim Harbaugh and nobody else in the coaching search. This

625
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 3: is what you wanted. This is what you signed up

626
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 3: for like this. You didn't just sign up for the

627
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 3: name and the guy who's quirky and fun, and you

628
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 3: signed up for the wins. That's what you signed up for.

629
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Speaker 3: And this is how he believes you win football games.

630
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 3: The way that this team is being built and Jesse

631
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 3: Minter needs to have that that pass rush. So they

632
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 3: got Joey Bosa back and they're going to connect him

633
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 3: with Ben Herbert and see if there's some special sauce there.

634
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 3: We're going to put you in our strength and conditioning program.

635
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 3: You're not going back to Florida. The guy that you've

636
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 3: been using has watched you get hurt every season of

637
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 3: your career. So let's get with our guy and let's

638
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 3: see if we can figure this out and make sure

639
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 3: you continue to make tens of millions of dollars every

640
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 3: year because you have the talent. Unfortunately, your body is

641
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 3: betraying you a little bit. So let's see if we

642
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 3: can fix that. And I'm sure that's probably something that

643
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 3: Joey thought about, you know, like, hey, I could you

644
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 3: know they're going to give me an opportunity.

645
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 4: To stay here.

646
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 3: Let's see if this guy who's been able to put

647
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Speaker 3: all of these players in the NFL and make them

648
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 3: a lot of money. You know that we talk about

649
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 3: a Jabo who had, you know, obviously the broken leg,

650
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 3: which is why he didn't go in the first round,

651
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 3: but quitd he Pay and Aiden Hutchinson and you know,

652
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 3: these defensive ends. Let's let's see if I can get

653
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 3: some of that special sauce that Ben Herbert's got going

654
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 3: and next thing, you know, bounce back here for Joey

655
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 3: has a hear like Khalil has, and you put him

656
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 3: and I think That's the other thing about bringing back

657
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 3: Joey is again he's got to stay healthy and Khalil's

658
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 3: got to produce it age thirty three as opposed to

659
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 3: age thirty two. But we remember it was such a

660
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 3: sliver of time, Chris. But we remember what it looked

661
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,720
Speaker 3: like when Tuley, Joey and Khalil were on the field together,

662
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 3: and it was madness, it was mayhem, it was domination.

663
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 3: And so I'm sure that's what Joe and Jim and

664
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 3: Jesse saw, like, Hey, you know what.

665
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 4: Let's see if we can do it.

666
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 3: Let's just let's let's roll the dice and see if

667
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,959
Speaker 3: we can get these three guys on the field. Because

668
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,359
Speaker 3: in what Minter likes to do, where you have no

669
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 3: idea where it's coming from, you know, and it's typically

670
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 3: five maybe six guys on the line of scrimmage and

671
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 3: this guy's dropping out and this guy's coming and you

672
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 3: had no idea that this corner was set up up

673
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,439
Speaker 3: to run with the wide receiver downfield. But now he's

674
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 3: in the flat blowing up your running back that you

675
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 3: did not know was going to happen. Like I think

676
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 3: that's the way they look at is we can really

677
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 3: put an offense and conflict with those three guys on

678
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:13,879
Speaker 3: the field at the same time, you.

679
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 2: Play the odds for Joey. He's due for a healthy year.

680
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 2: I mean, he is due for a healthy year. And

681
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 2: you said it man like this, Jim Harball, this is

682
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 2: what you signed up for. You signed up for wins.

683
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 2: And he has won at every level doing it this way.

684
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 2: And we are right at the beginning stages of all this.

685
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: The NFL.

686
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,479
Speaker 2: The turnover in the NFL is remarkable every single year.

687
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 2: And speaking of turnover, I just want to touch on

688
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 2: some of these guys. We can get into these guys

689
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 2: excuse me a little bit more next week, but I

690
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 2: really want to spend a lot of a lot of

691
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 2: time on Keenan and Mike and some of the guys

692
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 2: who have met a loze of.

693
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: This organization who are in new places. But I mean, you're.

694
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 2: Already seeing kind of the identity that Jim Harball and

695
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 2: company want to play with offensively, bringing Gus Edwards a

696
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:05,240
Speaker 2: hammer right, Bradley Boseman looking like a potential starting center

697
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 2: at least for twenty twenty four. Oh yeah, pot a

698
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 2: Ford on the defensive side. Just the tight ends room

699
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 2: that we talked about Disley and Hayden Hurst. You are

700
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 2: slowly starting to see what Jim Harbaugh wants to accomplish,

701
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 2: and we have not even really hit that second third

702
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 2: wave of free agency and trades and obviously having a

703
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 2: lot of picks in the draft.

704
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:30,240
Speaker 1: Money.

705
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think you know so much of it

706
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:38,240
Speaker 3: too is compensatories, signing guys that aren't going to affect

707
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 3: your compensatory selections for next year. We've talked about how

708
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 3: many picks do we think Geordie's would like to have

709
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 3: in this draft? We at least at nine. Now we

710
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 3: said double digits. He's going to get there, and he's

711
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 3: going to get to ten or eleven. You know, he's

712
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 3: already at nine with the Keenan trade and the extra

713
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 3: fourth and the compensatory for Drew the extra seventh, so

714
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 3: they had seven.

715
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 4: That was eight.

716
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 3: Now he's got nine. I think he wants to get

717
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 3: to ten, and I would that's what he wants moving forward.

718
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 3: He's gonna want ten draft picks moving forward. So a

719
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 3: lot of these signings are part of the whole compensate.

720
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 3: Now Denzel counted against them, but the Michael Thomas thing

721
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 3: balanced that out. Bradley Boseman was cut by the Panthers,

722
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 3: so that does not play into the compensatory formula. There

723
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 3: you go, there's your starting center and it's someone that

724
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 3: obviously they drafted in Baltimore, loved in Baltimore. Let walk

725
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 3: in free agency for part of that compensatory pick formula

726
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,280
Speaker 3: because he signed a big money deal with the Panthers

727
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 3: and I think they had probably ended up getting a

728
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 3: fourth or something like that for him. So don't forget that.

729
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 3: There's that level. That's that's part of the operation in

730
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 3: free agency is they would prefer to sign guys that

731
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,720
Speaker 3: had been cut as opposed to guys that are walking

732
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 3: in Cowda Kent's compensatory picks. The one the one that

733
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 3: I'm sort of it. There's two names that I'm really

734
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 3: interested in in free agency, and I'll just put them

735
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 3: out there, and I get it there could be an

736
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 3: expiration date on it. So you know what, let me

737
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 3: just let me just go into the old vredzone dot

738
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 3: com here, you know, quick, just to make.

739
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 2: Sure kick Twitter real time, to make sure that this

740
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:02,240
Speaker 2: isn't going to be dated.

741
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,760
Speaker 3: H Well, it's interesting because here's one of the names

742
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 3: at the top and the entering diversion in Keys has

743
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 3: been accepted into a pre trial diversion program help him

744
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 3: avoid trial stemming from his arrest last fall sil battery.

745
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 4: So what do we talk about with Keenan?

746
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 3: It's catches, It's receptions, right, He's got the most sixteen

747
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 3: reception games, He's got the most fifteen reception games. He's

748
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 3: got the most fourteen reception games. Who's the other guy

749
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 3: in the league that piles up receptions? Just piles him

750
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 3: up over and over and over again and has been

751
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 3: derailed by injury, and you got to roll the dice

752
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 3: that he's going to be healthy. And he's got a

753
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 3: little bit of an off field thing going right now,

754
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 3: which is probably why he hasn't been signed yet. You know,

755
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 3: it was he got into a he got into an

756
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 3: issue with a construction worker that parked his truck in

757
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 3: front of his house and Michael Thomas got all pissed

758
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 3: at him and kept asking him to move and slap

759
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 3: the phone out of his hand, and you know, it's

760
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 3: it's one of those things, right, It's not like he

761
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 3: beat the snot out of a guy. It was he

762
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 3: got into an argument and threw his phone and they

763
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 3: got to figure that out. Michael Thomas had like one

764
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 3: hundred and thirty catches and here he's a big guy

765
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 3: that operated a ton out of the slot for Sean Payton.

766
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 4: Sound familiar. Well, also sound familiar.

767
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 2: A guy that Jim Harbaugh played against at the Ohio

768
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:23,720
Speaker 2: State as well.

769
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: Right, So I mean it's you.

770
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 4: Know, so like that's the thing Chris is.

771
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 3: It's like that's what Keenan was, big guy in the slot,

772
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 3: ton of catches. So Michael Thomas is out there and

773
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 3: I don't know what his Let me see if I

774
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 3: go to wide receivers. Let me I don't know if

775
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 3: he was I can't remember if they extended him and

776
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 3: he was cut, or if they gave him just a

777
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 3: one year deal and he was let me see what

778
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 3: he was.

779
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 2: Michael Thomas got into it with the front of the

780
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 2: program Jeff Duncan last week.

781
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 4: It looks like exactly, Oh is that right?

782
00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: Yeah?

783
00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 4: He did?

784
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 2: Huh, you know, a little expect nothing, a little expect.

785
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 4: He's a fiery guy.

786
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 3: All right, Let's go transaction contract details. Okay, So twenty

787
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 3: nine through twenty four five year, nine hundred and twenty

788
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 3: five thousand looks like so is that the because it

789
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 3: looks like there's void years on here for twenty five,

790
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 3: twenty six, twenty seven, so I think they added all

791
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 3: the void years and the new rule. It's not new,

792
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 3: it's a couple of years old, but is you can't

793
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 3: cut a player. You can't just decline void years after

794
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 3: you've added them and expect to be rewarded with compensatory selection.

795
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 3: So I'm not super well versed on this, but it

796
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 3: looks like he was on a one year, so I

797
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 3: think that was the prior year. But I'm seeing all

798
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 3: of these void years here. I'm talking too much about it. Whatever,

799
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 3: I just want to make sure I stay consistent with

800
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 3: compensatory formula thing.

801
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: But it's a name to know. What about Tyler Boyd?

802
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 2: Is is Tyler Boyd been signed yet Cincinnati?

803
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know. But Michael Thomas is

804
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 3: the one. The other one, Chris JK. Dobbins, I want

805
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 3: to see, like I'd roll the dice on him, man,

806
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 3: I would roll the dice on the ACL and the

807
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 3: and I don't know if we talked. I might have

808
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 3: talked about this with Popper last week. I think so

809
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 3: you were you were out of it, But I brought

810
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 3: this up last week with Popper. I'll just reiterate it.

811
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 3: He's still out there. Those are the two names you

812
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 3: know that I that I think offensively I would like

813
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 3: to see and I think would fit in perfectly on

814
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 3: one year prove it deals. Michael Thomas is thirty one,

815
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 3: so thirty one to twenty. He just turned thirty one,

816
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 3: so he's a year younger than Keenan, but a very

817
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 3: similar profile when you talk about size stature. He's a

818
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 3: six foot three guy that plays in the slot that

819
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 3: catches a ton of balls, and you can get him

820
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 3: at a discount, And same thing with Dobbins because of

821
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 3: the ACL and the and the Achilles combined, he's a

822
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 3: legitimate top five back in this league if he's healthy.

823
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say the Achilles was this past

824
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 2: year because I think he was rehabbing with Rogers early

825
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 2: in the season too. So be interesting to see what

826
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 2: his progress has been this offseason and maybe that's a

827
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 2: maybe that's a late offseason pickup or somebody that you

828
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 2: can you could scoop up.

829
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 3: He's so young, it'll be almost you know, when you

830
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:26,439
Speaker 3: talk about the Achilles, it's you know it because he's

831
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 3: so young, I think he'd probably be ready to go

832
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 3: by training camp, would be my guess. Yeah, so, and

833
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 3: especially if you're just running him in a platoon with

834
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 3: Gus like they did, you know out there. So yeah, JK,

835
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,439
Speaker 3: he's twenty five. You know, he's twenty five, and there

836
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 3: you know spot Rocket is saying that he's two point

837
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 3: one million dollar proven deal. That's what they figures he's

838
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 3: getting so great perfect.

839
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, done exactly. And you know maybe that's a maybe

840
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 2: that's a post draft thing too. Maybe you see, you

841
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 2: see what's out there, you see who the Chargers can

842
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 2: get in the draft, if anybody.

843
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 1: Lloyd from USC Yeah, yeah, it's just there's.

844
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,760
Speaker 2: A lot of potential options in that that third fourth

845
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 2: round that may make a lot of sense for what

846
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 2: Jim Harboldt wants to accomplish.

847
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:13,959
Speaker 1: I'm so excited, Like.

848
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 2: The last or the next thirty days rather is going

849
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 2: to be a blast just talking about the draft and

850
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 2: just kind of putting all these puzzle pieces together. We

851
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 2: got to get some more guests on, like you said,

852
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 2: Joel Clad would be great, get some other draft analysus,

853
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 2: we get Clo.

854
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 3: I'll finish that too, by the way, just to give

855
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 3: clad all as Flowers, Yeah, Bowers at eleven, Guidon at

856
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 3: twenty three, So right tackle, weapon, offensive weapon, Jim Harbaugh football. Again,

857
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 3: it's a guy that called probably thirty Jim Harbaugh Michigan

858
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,919
Speaker 3: games over his career, if not more, which means all

859
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 3: of those production meetings talking to Jim Harbor about what

860
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 3: are you looking to do? What is it you're trying

861
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 3: to accomplish to it? How's the offense?

862
00:43:59,120 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 4: Gay?

863
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 3: Remember that's when you're doing TV. You have what's called

864
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 3: the production meeting, and you sit with the head coach

865
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Speaker 3: and typically both coordinators, and then they'll offer up one

866
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Speaker 3: or two players. Is what you get when you call

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Speaker 3: the TV game. And so he's talking to Jim Harbaugh

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Speaker 3: that much, to Jesse Minter that much, to the offensive

869
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Speaker 3: coordinator of the Jim Harbaugh offense all of those times.

870
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Speaker 3: He knows how they want to play football. And in

871
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Speaker 3: his mock draft, the first one he gave him Brock

872
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 3: Bauers at five second when he had him trade back

873
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 3: to eleven, pick up twenty three from Minnesota and go

874
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 3: right tackle tight end. So I think it's important to

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Speaker 3: keep it in context before you start getting your hopes

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Speaker 3: up about and again, I can't say it enough.

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Speaker 4: I would love.

878
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Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison Junior. I would love I want to call

879
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 3: the explosive players. I want to call the touchdowns. I

880
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 3: want to call the first downs on first and ten

881
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 3: that go thirty five yards down the field that we've

882
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 3: never had here, Like, yes, I want to call that.

883
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Speaker 3: I want Malik Neighbors, I want Marvin Harris, and I

884
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 3: want Roma du And say would love it. I just

885
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 3: don't think that's the way he plays football. I don't

886
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Speaker 3: think that's necessarily where he places value of a number

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Speaker 3: five overall pick.

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Speaker 4: I just don't.

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Speaker 3: It's hard for me to envision them saying, yeah, this

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Speaker 3: is our path as opposed to let's trade back, pick

891
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Speaker 3: up a couple more picks where we can get a

892
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Speaker 3: couple more linebackers, linemen, interior defensive linemen, etc. To help

893
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Speaker 3: this team out.

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Speaker 2: It certainly makes it intriguing them money when not only

895
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Speaker 2: Keenan but also Mike leaves, it makes the cupboard a

896
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 2: little bit bare at that position, A lot of exciting

897
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 2: options at five. You know that probably two of those

898
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 2: three guys at least are going to be staring at

899
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Speaker 2: it in the face at five, and it could be tempting,

900
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Speaker 2: but I think Chargers fans need to go with the mantra.

901
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 2: In Joe and in Jim, we trust and just see

902
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Speaker 2: what April brings. But so excited to be back with

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Speaker 2: you Money, We'll pick it up next Thursday. And anything

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Speaker 2: else you want to touch on before we roll out

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Speaker 2: of here.

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Speaker 4: Bro.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because you said it there and Joe and Jim

908
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 3: we trust. So I'll leave you with this. All the

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00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 3: fans that hate me right now, because I'm not mocking

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Speaker 3: Malik Neighbors or or Marvin Harrison junior to the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: Nobody hates Nobody hates mad Money Smith.

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Speaker 4: Okay, oh they do.

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Speaker 3: They're upset with me right now because they want the receiver,

914
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Speaker 3: which is fine.

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Speaker 4: I get it. I do too, but I'll say.

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Speaker 3: This, here, here is your here is your lane. Here's

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Speaker 3: the lane that that you can drive in if that's

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Speaker 3: what you want and you really want it to happen.

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00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:37,720
Speaker 3: Baltimore Ravens always take best player available, So on their board,

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Speaker 3: if Marvin Harrison is the number one player and the

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Speaker 3: next player is graded you know, well below him, they'll

922
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Speaker 3: take him. And Ortiz will talk to Jim and just say,

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Speaker 3: look you when you're in this position, you got to

924
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 3: take the blue chip, you got to take the sure thing.

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Speaker 3: And this is what we feel the best about. This

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Speaker 3: is the guy that has graded the highest from all

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Speaker 3: of our scouts and all of our personnel directors. This

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Speaker 3: guy has the best grade and it's not close from

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Speaker 3: the next guy we could take. So let's let's just

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Speaker 3: follow our board and let's do it. So there you go.

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Speaker 3: That's that, and that is I think a very real

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Speaker 3: possibility because that is how they operate in Baltimore. They

933
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Speaker 3: always take best player, regardless of position.

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Speaker 2: And that's what we've been hearing that that the receivers

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Speaker 2: are the best players in this draft. So we got

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Speaker 2: five more weeks. There you go until we know. We'll

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Speaker 2: talk well gospip about it for the next five weeks

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Speaker 2: and we'll see you next Thursday for Matt Mudy Smith.

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Speaker 2: Don't we just hate you