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That's our That's Everyone's favorite intro 36 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: is when I just a totally shouted Hitler. We're talking 37 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: about Hitler today. This is Behind the Bastards podcast about 38 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: the worst people in all of history. I'm Robert Evans 39 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,679 Speaker 1: and this is actually a special mini series Behind the 40 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: Bastards called Behind the Insurrections. Uh. Last episode we talked 41 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 1: about Benito Mussolini's March on Rome. This episode, we're talking 42 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: about another fascist insurrection directly inspired by the March on 43 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: Rome and carried out by Bastard's pod side character and 44 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 1: main character Adolf Hitler. We're talking about the Munich beer 45 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: hall push today. Yeah, lighted a fire, baby lighted on 46 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: awful insurrection. I realized I should probably reference where I 47 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: got that from. It's okay, so Common the actor and 48 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: I call him the actor. I'm finishing. That is an 49 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: interesting since the rapper okay and yes, and one could 50 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: argue of the top ten list of greatest rap albums 51 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: of all time, Common may hold two of those slots, 52 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: one of which is an album called Resurrection. And that's 53 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 1: where I got that from. Was because he's saying ris 54 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: Rick should so I was just saying insurrection deep cut, 55 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: unnecessary piece of information. But you can pull that out 56 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: next time somebody try to judge you about your pop 57 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: culture stuff. Beautiful, thank you. I'm more excited about the 58 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: fact that he was Common Sense, and then he got 59 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: into Hollywood and decided to drop the Sense, which there 60 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: was a there's a band out here in l A 61 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: like a local band who sued him whose name was 62 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: Common Sense, and they were like almost like a three 63 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: eleven sublime, like white boy reggae band, and they sued 64 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: him for the name. They were like, we were common 65 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: Sense first, and I mean I feel like I feel 66 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: like you can't copyright the word or name common Sense. 67 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 1: But they won, so he was like all right, whatever 68 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 1: comment and then became a list celebrity. I was going 69 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: to say, speaking of people who won, we should talk 70 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 1: about hitler Um at least for a while, but not 71 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: in this particular story, although eventually, at least moment when 72 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: this particular story ends, it's not the end of the story. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 73 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 1: This particular story is with Nazi defeat, but the broader 74 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: story of the Nazis is more complicated than that. So 75 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna start here by talking about the 76 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: city of Munich because generally when people talk Nazis, they 77 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: wind up kind of focusing on Berlin um. But Munich 78 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 1: is where the National social Is, Germans Workers Party, the 79 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: n s d a P, the Nazis. That's where they 80 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: came from. That's the birthplace of the Nazi movement is Munich. 81 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: And if you look a little bit into Munich's history, 82 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: it makes sense. Um Munich is a city in the 83 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: German state of Bavaria Um and Bavaria is historically the 84 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 1: most conservative part of Germany. It's kind of like Texas 85 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 1: uh in that even after German unification in eighteen seventy, 86 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: Bavarians tended to see themselves as different and other from 87 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 1: like the rest of Germany, right like we're Germans, sure, 88 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 1: but we're more Bavarian, right, Like it's it's this this 89 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 1: the attitude that you do kind of see like Texans 90 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: have a bit of this, right like where we're our 91 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: own thing. So that's always big in Bavaria, and there's 92 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: this kind of like traditionalism. They have their own monarchy 93 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: that's separate from the Kaiser, right, like the Kaiser's in 94 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: charge of Bavaria still, but they also have their own 95 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: king Um. And there's a lot of Bavarians who aren't 96 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: super into the idea of being part of Germany, right 97 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: because they they they are more Bavarian than anything. Now. 98 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: Adolf Hitler, who was again an Austrian, so he's not 99 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: really a German by the consideration of a lot of Germans. 100 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: He moves to Munich in nineteen thirteen, mainly because he 101 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: was getting drafted to go join the Austrian army. And 102 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: he didn't want to join the Austrian army. So he's 103 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: a draft dodger and he moves to Munich to avoid 104 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,239 Speaker 1: serving his time in the military. UM. And just based 105 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: on what happens lest this is less because Hitler was 106 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 1: Hitler was not scared of being in the military. He 107 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: didn't like Austria. He thought it was like racially polluted 108 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: um and so he moved to Munich because it was 109 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: more in line with his right wing sensibilities. UM. So 110 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:34,799 Speaker 1: he rented a cheap room and he made a poverty 111 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: level income in Munich painting pictures of like famous buildings 112 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: in town because the beautiful city and selling them to tourists. 113 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 1: And this was like a whole industry, and Munich a 114 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: bunch of of little artists would paint pictures of local 115 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: buildings and sell them as like keepsakes to tourists. Hitler 116 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 1: was kind of unique among these artists because while most 117 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: of them would actually go out to where those buildings 118 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: were with like an easel and paint the buildings and 119 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: then sell their pictures and stuff, Hitler would cheap postcards 120 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: of those buildings and paint alone in his room where 121 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: he spent most of his time reading fringe political tracts 122 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: and one presumes masturbating furiously. We have to Yeah, just unbelievable. 123 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: Yeah he was, I mean, he was a pretty right 124 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: wing guy. But yeah, he's he's pounding it in his 125 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: little office um and painting from postcards. Um. And he's 126 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: not a very good artist, which is one of the 127 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: key little because he lived in like a tiny little 128 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: real he was renting from a lady. He was he 129 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: was very little. Yeah, when Hitler, I thought we were 130 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: just putting him down for no reason. But no, no, 131 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: he was extremely poor. So when Hitler moved to Munich, 132 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: he had just finished being like a homeless person in 133 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: in Vienna, Like he lived in like a men's home 134 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: and stuff for like people who couldn't afford um to 135 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: stay off the street and whatnot. So he had just 136 00:07:56,280 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: gotten out of like a really dire financial situation. Um. 137 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: And actually part of why he was in a dire 138 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: financial situation is he inherited money from his mom, but 139 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: then his sister needed it for her kids, and so 140 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: he gave up his inheritance to her. Um. Which you know, 141 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: kind of his evidence that like everyone who turns out terrible. 142 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: There was a period of time in which Hitler might 143 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: not have wound up being Hitler. UM. So anyway, important 144 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: to keep in mind. So Hitler's living in Munich, He's 145 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: painting shitty paintings, tugging it all the time, um, and 146 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: reading a bunch of like reactionary right wing zines, like 147 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: poorly mimiographed newsletters about the dangers of the Jews. That's 148 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: like a huge thing Hitler's doing in this period. Some 149 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: things never changed, man. Yeah, Yeah, it's like it's like 150 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: he's like hanging out on the day's equivalent of eight chan, 151 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 1: which is like these tracts that are being passed out 152 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: of the street. So when World War One kicks off, 153 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: and you know, in this period, right, the Archduke's assassinated, 154 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: as we talked about last time, but in the run 155 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,599 Speaker 1: up to World of One, Benito Mussolini's furiously trying to 156 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: get his country Italy involved in the war. Um. Germany 157 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: goes to war with the World UM, and Hitler immediately 158 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: joins up and becomes an infantry man. Uh. And he's 159 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: almost immediately thrown into one of the most horrifying battles 160 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: in not just like the whole war. But like ever, 161 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: it's known colloquially as the Slaughter of the Innocence because 162 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: the Germans sent tens of thousands of basically children to 163 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: die to like Allied machine guns. A horrible battle um. 164 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: Now at the same time as Hitler's watching his friends 165 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: get mowed down in the trenches, Herman Gerring, who would 166 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: become his future second in command, is becoming one of 167 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: the first fighter pilots in history. Gering flew with Manfred 168 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 1: ron Ricktoven the Red Baron's Flying Circus. He took command 169 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: of the squadron after Ricktoven got killed in nineteen eighteen, 170 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: and he got something. He shot down like twenty nine planes. 171 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: He's an extremely good fighter pilot, and it's like a 172 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: dad becomes like a dashing national hero. Now another big 173 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: Nazi you might know. Heinrich Himler was too young to 174 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: serve during World War One. He came from that awkward 175 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: generation where you were too young to fight in the 176 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: First World War, and he would have been too old 177 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: to fight in the second, and so his entire youth 178 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: was spent like idolizing these soldiers going off to die 179 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: in France who he was unable to join. Now, another 180 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: fellow who went to war in nineteen fourteen was Ernst Pohner. 181 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: Now Powner was a middle aged I know, it's a 182 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: rough name. You gotta give the guy some credit for it, 183 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: a real cross to bear. So Powner grew up or 184 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 1: Powner was like a middle aged, conservative educated Bavarian, pretty 185 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: right wing guy when the war starts and he was 186 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: commissioned as an infantry officer and eventually rose to regimental command. Now, 187 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: despite being a Bavarian to his soul and thus being 188 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: kind of like separate from the rest of Germans, fighting 189 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: in the war gives him this sense of like unity 190 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: with the rest of Germany, and he starts to feel 191 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: like a member of this, like this unified nation for 192 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: the first time in his life. And in fact, all 193 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: of Bavaria was brought closer in step to the rest 194 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: of Germany. As a result of the war. The region 195 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: industrialized rapidly to provide armaments, and as the German state 196 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: devoted itself increasingly to becoming an engine of arms production, um, 197 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: Bavaria becomes like a big part of that, particularly Nuremberg 198 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: or not. I think, uh yeah, I think it might 199 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: have been. It was. It was Narremberg. I'm not great 200 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: on all the other German city, but like Bavarious starts 201 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: industrializing heavily, and their military was like just the best 202 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: in the world, incredibly good. Yeah yeah, Like like Germany 203 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: actively amazing, goes up against the entire rest of the 204 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: world in World War One and comes pretty close to winning. 205 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: They yeah, they like. It's not like World War Two 206 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: where after a while like they're almost they almost pulled 207 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: it off almost yeah yeah. Um So the Kaiser's propaganda 208 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 1: had forbidden so like and that that's actually part of 209 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: the problem is that right up until the end of 210 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 1: the war, Germany could win it. It's not again, not 211 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: like World War Two. We're after nineteen forty three, everyone 212 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: can see the writing on the wall. Up until like 213 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: late nineteen eighteen, Germany could pull that ship off. Um 214 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: And this is sort of compounded in the minds of 215 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: German people who see their soldiers winning by the Kaisers 216 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: propaganda because the Kaiser had forbidden journalists from reporting on 217 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: the dire situation in the West. Um so number one, 218 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 1: Germany is in a pretty good position most of the war. 219 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: They notck Romania and Russia out of the fight, so 220 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: they beat like two powers, including Russia, which is like 221 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: a fifth of the world's land masks which they heard 222 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: of at the time. They conquer Ukraine, um like, get 223 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: it in a treaty basically, and they spend most of 224 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: the war within spitting distance of Paris. So on a map, 225 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: Germans spend most of that war thinking like we're winning. 226 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 1: This is tough, We're losing a lot of men, but like, 227 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna win this thing now. The situation on the 228 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 1: map belied some crucial realities, including the fact that as 229 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 1: the war went on, Germany was completely hollowed out of soldiers, 230 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: of supplies, and of food. Three quarters of a million 231 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: German civilians starved to death as a result of the 232 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: Allied blockade. UM. By the time Germany surrenders in the 233 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: winter of nineteen eighteen, it's army is on the very 234 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 1: brink of collapse. The generals who are in charge at 235 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: the end a guy named Eric Lundor for you might 236 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: remember from the Wonder Woman movie. Yes he's the bad 237 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: guy and Wonder Woman, but was a real dude. Um 238 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: and Paul von Hindenberg, who was his his co general. 239 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: We're not the ones to accept failure gracefully. Right, like 240 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: both of them had some victories to their name, both 241 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: of them made some major strategic errors at the end 242 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: that we're a big factor in German defeat um. But 243 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 1: when the Germans lose, they don't stay on deck to 244 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: be like, hey, guys, we tried our best, we fought 245 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: as hard as anyone could fight, and we got our 246 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: We we just lost. They fucking bounce like as soon 247 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: as it becomes clear they're going to surrender, they're fucking 248 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: out of there. Yeah, yeah, so back yeah, and they 249 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: hand over responsibility for negotiating Germany's surrender because the Kaiser 250 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: also bounces like that motherfucker's off the Belgium on a 251 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:46,199 Speaker 1: trade um. So all of the people who had gotten 252 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: Germany into war and had like pushed the war the 253 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 1: whole time leave and put the responsibility for negotiating the 254 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: surrender on the social democrat dominated Reichstag. So Germany overnight 255 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: is a social democracy. And also the liberals who had 256 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: been most a lot of them anti war up to 257 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 1: that point, now have to deal with negotiating germany surrender. Meanwhile, 258 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: the guys who were responsible for losing the war start 259 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: concocting a narrative that the left had stabbed the German 260 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: army in the back um and that's why they lost. 261 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: And when I say the left, I also mean the Jews, 262 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: because that's what they mean, right, like they're not yeah, 263 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: the left. And it's the same thing people talk about 264 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: cultural Marxism today, right. The turn back then was Judeo Bolshevism. 265 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: But it's the same idea, right. So the first days 266 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: and weeks after Germany's defeat, there were just a bunch 267 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: of revolutions all throughout these different cities in Germany, and 268 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: a lot of them were left wing. But Verry was 269 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: not spared in this wave of unrest. As you said, 270 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: there was a strong While Bavaria is very conservative, in 271 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: Munich in particular, there's a very vibrant left wing and 272 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: several days before Germany signs the armistice on November eleven, 273 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: November seven, this huge crowd as symbols in Munich and 274 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: they forced the Bavarian king to leave his throne. Now, 275 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: the guy who orchestrated this was a dude named Kurt Eisner, 276 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: and he's the head of the Bavarian Social Democratic Party 277 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: and his goal was to you know what he did. 278 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: He wanted to kick out the king and establish a 279 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: Bavarian republic. Now, that worked for a little while. The 280 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: unfortunately Eisner the coalition that Eisener used to kind of 281 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: kick the king out and establish a republic was only 282 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: united in their desire to bring it into the war 283 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: and get rid of the king. And once that war 284 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: ended and the king was gone, they didn't agree on 285 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: anything else because it was a coalition of like the 286 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: far left, but also a lot of like center left 287 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: people and even centrists were just like, this World War 288 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: one thing doesn't seem to be working out for anybody, 289 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: all of us. Sucks for all of us. And when 290 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: that ends, a lot of these centrists are like, well, 291 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: we don't really agree with the left on anything else, 292 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: you know, And there's this huge desire to We've got 293 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: the king out, the war has gone. Let's go back 294 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: to business as usual. Let's go back to the way 295 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: things were before the war. I think people Americans can understand. People. Yeah, 296 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: I just want to go back to branch man. I 297 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: want to go back to brunch. And a lot of 298 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: these centrists wanted to go back to the center right 299 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: and the center left, arguing because both the extreme right 300 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: and the extreme left had been empowered by the war 301 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: and the economic collapse that came with it, and these 302 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: these folks in the middle were scared by that. So 303 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: this is before like pruised and like the new like 304 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: the new Democrats or the new like constitution. They right, 305 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: like this, this is right, this is before the Weimar Constitution. 306 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: Istion Eisner over. Eisner leads his sort of revolution like 307 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: five days before Germany surrenders. Um, so this is contemporary, 308 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: Like the Weimar Constitution starts being written during the period 309 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: where a lot of this is happening. But this starts before. 310 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: This starts while the Kaiser is still on the throat. Right, Um, 311 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: I'm fairly sure while the Kaiser is still on the throat. 312 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: It starts before the official German surrender. So things, you know, 313 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: the center right or the center left decides like, we 314 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: don't really want to work with Eisener. Eisner's support dissolves 315 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: and he kind of winds up unable to govern because 316 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: he doesn't really have a lot of people backing him. Um, 317 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 1: there's new elections, uh in January of nineteen nineteen, and 318 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: this kind of center left dominates as opposed to Eisner's 319 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: far left. So On the morning of February one, nineteen nineteen, 320 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: Kurt Eisner starts walking to the lawn Tag, the land Tag, 321 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 1: which is like they're, you know, kind of their Congress 322 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: sort of thing, to resign his position as head of 323 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: the local government. Now, while he's on his way, this 324 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: German noble count Anton Arco Valley, which is a fucking badass. 325 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: Now Arco Valley, it's like he's like a Spiderman victim right, Billy, Yeah, Um, 326 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: he's a He's a rich Bavarian nobleman. So Arco Valley 327 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: like comes up and shoots him dead. Eisner. Um so 328 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: because he's, you know, Arco Valley is a monarchist and 329 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: a and a far right kind of guy, and he 330 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: wants to murder this left wing dude, even though the 331 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: guy is about to leave power willingly. So one of 332 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: Eisner's Eisner does have some very loyal followers, and one 333 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: of them responds to Eisner being killed by gunning down 334 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:07,239 Speaker 1: another politician. And for reasons unknown to history, this like 335 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 1: leftist supporter of Eisner, instead of going after one of 336 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: arco Valleys allies, picks a moderate liberal um, a guy 337 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: named Ernard our Um, and shoots him. Now Our survives 338 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: an hour at the time is kind of the head 339 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: of the Social Democrats and Munich, so he's like he's 340 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: like kind of the Joe Biden right, Like he's like 341 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: a moderate liberal. Um. Yeah uh, and this leftist shoots 342 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: him instead of one of Arco Valleys allies for a 343 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: good reasons that aren't really well known. Um, but our survived. 344 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: What are theories? You know? I I haven't really heard 345 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: a good one. It might just be that, as a rule, 346 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: a lot of folks on the far left will always 347 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: hate liberals more than they hate the right. Um, it 348 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: might have been. It's like it was just like personal 349 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 1: It's like that fool hit on my girl. Yeah, I've 350 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 1: been personally he might have been. Man, I took my chance. 351 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 1: He might have just fucked up right, like guns just 352 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: hit the rate back then, you know, Like you know, 353 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: I don't really know. Um ours survived though he doesn't 354 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: get killed, but his injuries keep him out of politics 355 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: for two years. And while Our was like kind of 356 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: a centrist, he was an effective leader of the Social 357 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: Democratic Party. He was good at getting people in line. Um. 358 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 1: And the fact that he's out of the picture for 359 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 1: a couple of years means that his party is effectively 360 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: rudderless right at the same time that the far left 361 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 1: is energized by Eisner's martyrdom. Now, our successor, a guy 362 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: named Johann Hoffman, was weak and not very competent um. 363 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: So you've got this position where the dominant center left 364 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:38,719 Speaker 1: party loses its effective leader at the same time as 365 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 1: the radical left gets energized by the assassination of like 366 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: one of their big dudes. And I'm gonna I'm gonna 367 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: read a quote now from a graduate dissertation by James 368 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 1: McGee titled the Political Police in Bavaria nineteen nineteen to 369 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: nineteen thirty six to explain what happens next. The assassination 370 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: of Eisner had worked as a solvent upon political consensus 371 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 1: such as it was in Bavaria. The Hoffman government found 372 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: itself caught between the advance of radicalism on both the 373 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: right and the left the first round, and the struggle 374 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: went to the radical left. No longer able to maintain 375 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: itself in Munich, the Hoffman government decamped on April seven, 376 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: eventually coming to rest in the northern Bavarian city of Bomberg. 377 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 1: Authority in Munich was assumed successively by two councils, the 378 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: first led by an ill assorted collection of independent socialists 379 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 1: and anarchists, and the second by the communists. So two 380 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: different successive kind of far left governments take over through 381 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 1: like a revolution basically, but neither of them are very 382 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 1: good at it right. Neither of them really have Like 383 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 1: the anarchists are way more focused on creating public art 384 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: and stuff um, and don't really have a great uh 385 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: cohesive set of plan to deal with the needs of 386 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: a lot of like uh Moonstion ears. I think it 387 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: is like people of the people of Munich, um. Whereas 388 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 1: the communists are kind of they're not really that good 389 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: at building support outside of the people who are already 390 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,479 Speaker 1: involved in their movement. Uh. There there spent a lot 391 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 1: of time going after their political enemies uh and again 392 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: aren't very good at consolidating power. Meanwhile, outside the city, 393 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 1: conservative forces start regrouping and preparing to invade Munich because 394 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,719 Speaker 1: there's been a left wing revolution. What is the right 395 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: going to do? They're gonna murder everyone they can. So 396 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: the core of this right wing movement where the Free 397 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 1: Corps um, and that's an organization of right wing veterans 398 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 1: that you could see is broadly similar to groups like 399 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 1: the Oath Keepers or the Three Percenters today. Now, the 400 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:25,919 Speaker 1: main difference between these two is the oath Keepers and 401 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 1: the Three Percenters are mostly people dressing up like soldiers who, 402 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: if they were in the military, never heard a shot 403 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 1: fired in anger. The men of the Free Corps are 404 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 1: hard sons of bitches, like they have They have done 405 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: a ton of killing. They have seen thousands die before 406 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 1: their eyes. Like a lot of these guys, these guys 407 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 1: are like veterans of the trenches. So they're not they're 408 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: not playing, you know, like they're not dressing up because 409 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 1: soldiers look cool. They've they they have been so broken 410 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: by war that it's the only thing they can really do, 411 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: you know. Larpin over here. Yeah, they're called the Free Corps, 412 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 1: the Free Corp, the Free Corps like where yeah so, 413 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 1: and the Free Corps. Not all these guys. A number 414 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 1: of like free core dudes actually become anti Nazis later, 415 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 1: but a lot of the Free Corps are the genesis 416 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: of what becomes some of the Nazi street movements too. 417 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: And it's kind of like we saw with the r 418 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: d T in Italy, right where you've got all these veterans. 419 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,719 Speaker 1: Some of them do become some of them just one 420 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: order and they're more Republican than anything. But they'll fight 421 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: the radical left, and then they wind up being anti Nazi. 422 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,479 Speaker 1: Most of them go more in a Nazi direction. Some 423 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: of them wind up being kind of more on the 424 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 1: left after a while because they get, you know, disillusioned 425 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: by right wing politics. But you have this melting pot 426 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 1: of soldiers who are angry at things, and the bulk 427 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 1: of them do go to the right. Now. Yeah, so 428 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: these guys invade and they make quick work of the 429 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 1: Red Forces of the Revolutionary government. I'm gonna quote from 430 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: Macgee's article again. By the end of April, the feeble 431 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: Red Forces had been pressed back into the environs of 432 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: Munich itself. At this moment, with their backs to the wall, 433 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: elements of the Red Army executed tin hostages. Some of 434 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 1: the hostages were members of the right radical Tula Society. 435 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: Others appeared to have been selected almost at random. None 436 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: of the ten, however, had done anything to earn so 437 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 1: terrible a retribution with run. With one gratuitous act, the 438 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 1: leftist defenders of Munich had opened the floodgates of violence. 439 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: The aroused White forces poured into the city on May first, 440 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: bent upon the eradication of the Bavarian Soviet Republic and 441 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 1: its supporters in the most literal sense imaginable. The hardened 442 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: Free Corps and Army troops coursed through the streets of 443 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: the city, shooting anyone who appeared even remotely suspicious. The 444 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: orgy of execution did not stop until May seven, when 445 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: it was discovered that the White forces had mistakenly murdered 446 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: a group of twenty one Catholic school boys. These school 447 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: boys were, by no means the only innocence who fell 448 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: before the guns. Before this first wave of killing had 449 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: come to an end, over six hundred individuals had been slain, 450 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: many of them individuals with no connection to the Red 451 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: Army or the Soviet Republic. The revolution, which had begun 452 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 1: so peacefully six months before, had ended in a blood bath. 453 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 1: Order had returned to Bavaria. Wow, that's kind of the 454 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 1: story of the radical left. In the radical right right, 455 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: you get the radical left, some of them go a 456 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 1: little bit far. They killed ten people, and the right 457 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: murder six hundred people, including several dozen schoolboys. Yeah, got 458 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 1: dog man, Yeah, I hearing about this just this time 459 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: in the world and being a you know, albeit African 460 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 1: American male. But the reality is I live in America, 461 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: you know that like in this in this era that 462 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: like the type of violence these people endured all the time, 463 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 1: you know, and instability, Like it's just we really can't 464 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 1: get our brain around that six hundred Yeah, you know 465 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 1: it was six hundred people at least, like they murder 466 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: a whole school of Catholic children, you know, famous leftists, 467 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: the Catholic school. Yeah, right, I mean to be actually, 468 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: if we're being honest, like one of the in Germany, 469 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: the anti fascists were a mix of anarchists, communists, social democrats, 470 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: and Catholics. A lot of very traditional conservative Catholics were 471 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: anti fascists because they were against the Nazis, right, and 472 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: they still believed some pretty messed up stuff. You're talking 473 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: about Catholics in the thirties and forties. But um, we're 474 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: not Nazis, you know, And you get a lot of 475 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: credit in my book if you're anti Nazi, regardless of 476 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: what you believe in that all the other stuff I 477 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 1: can say this about you. Yeah, but you know, this 478 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: does kind of everything that's happening in Germany in this 479 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,199 Speaker 1: period makes it clear what I what I kind of 480 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: consistently think is the most the thing that we have 481 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: going for us the most in our present struggle against fascism, 482 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 1: which is that our fascists are they're fucking whimps for 483 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: the most part, right, most of them have never seen 484 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 1: heavy combat. They have not seen people shot to death. 485 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: They haven't shot anyone to death, they have not been 486 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,439 Speaker 1: in like That's why a lot of them started to 487 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: run as soon as like the police started really using force. 488 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: The fascists, the Nazis, the o G Nazis, most of 489 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 1: them are hard, hard people. Hitler is an incredibly physically 490 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: tough man. Like Hitler is a guy who got into 491 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: street fights with a whip, you know, like these are yeah, 492 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 1: these are rough people, um and I that's one of 493 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: the things we have going for us is that most 494 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 1: of ours just aren't that tough, you know. Um Yeah, 495 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,360 Speaker 1: there's like this weird like combo of like there's you're 496 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: not that tough, but you have something to prove, so 497 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: you're gonna be so you're dangerous because you have something 498 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: to prove, right, But then there's you are tough and 499 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 1: you have something to prove and you ain't scared, you know. 500 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, that's a toll that that's a totally 501 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: different situation. Yeah. Yeah, Like you'll see a lot of 502 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: folks in our far right dress up in you know, 503 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: plate carriers and carry guns and look like soldiers. The 504 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: Nazis did that too, They wore military they dressed like 505 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 1: German stormtroopers, and most of them had been right when 506 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 1: they dressed like the guys who charged through trenches with 507 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: an axe in one hand and a handgun in another. 508 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: It's because they charged through trenches with an axe in 509 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: one hand and a handgun in another. You know. Yeah, 510 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: And I know you've seen that look bro as a tangent, 511 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,640 Speaker 1: but like as much as you've trapped as any war 512 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: zones you've been in, and then even here, like you 513 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: can see it in a person's eyes to where you're like, oh, yeah, 514 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: you'll cut me, you will cut my throat. You're not, 515 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 1: you won't think twice, You'll cut my throat, Like you 516 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,439 Speaker 1: can see it in a person's eyes. Yeah, it's the willingness, 517 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 1: it's it's the people, and you can really see it 518 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: in a lot of folks eyes. The folks for whom 519 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: doing violence is the same as like turning the page 520 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: in a book, right, Like it doesn't require a switch 521 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: in their mental circuitry. Yeah, they're just ready, you know, 522 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 1: and most of them aren't that. Most of the far 523 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 1: right in Munich in this period are that kind of person. 524 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: You know. You've got folks like Heinrich Hemler who were 525 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,199 Speaker 1: too young and who want to be that and are 526 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: playing at it, but a lot of them are really 527 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: tough people. So mainstream Munich, which you know, after the 528 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 1: right comes in and massacres everybody, it's still like kind 529 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: of the liberals who are in charge of the government 530 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 1: for about a year after this point, you know, kind 531 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: of the mainstream center left, and they blamed the far 532 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 1: left for everything, even though the vast majority of the 533 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,360 Speaker 1: killing had been done by folks that were basically proto fascists. 534 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 1: Um and among other things, the fact that the left 535 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 1: had taken over the city briefly helped to incite and 536 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 1: fuel an extremely active right wing militias scenes. So all 537 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 1: of these different street militias of armed young men start 538 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: to form up during this period of time, So different 539 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: groups of angry young men, many of them veterans got 540 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: together to fight the reds and enshare their city would 541 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: never fall to the left again again. A liberal government 542 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: is in charge for the next year, but after the 543 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: Free Corps and the army come in, the real power 544 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: in Munich is with the military and the police, and 545 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: the dominant political ideology in the city among both the 546 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: center left and center right become the thirst for order 547 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: above all else, right, which you can understand, Like, these 548 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: people aren't just going through like a lot of Americans 549 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: just want order at this point, after the last four 550 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: years and we didn't go through a war that killed 551 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: like what one out of every ten of our young 552 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: men something like that. Yeah, their calls for law and 553 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: order are understandable. Yeah, I think there. You know, the 554 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,719 Speaker 1: history will show it was the wrong way to go 555 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: about it. But you have to be more sympathetic to them, 556 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: the people calling for now like well, you can't even imagine, 557 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: no one in in America can imagine we have no Yeah, exactly. Um. So, 558 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: Ernest Pohner was one of the first men who stepped 559 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: in to fill this need for order. And he'd been 560 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: enraged by Eisner and you know, even more enraged by 561 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: the Soviet Republic that briefly took charge of Munich um 562 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: And so he gets promoted to be the head of 563 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: the Munich Police Force in May of nineteen nineteen. And 564 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: he's fresh back from commanding a regiment in World War 565 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,719 Speaker 1: One at this point, and as soon as he's put in, 566 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: you know, in charge of the police force, he sets 567 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: to work not just crushing Marxism but doing everything he 568 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,719 Speaker 1: hand to encourage the growth of the radical right in Munich. 569 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: Now the radical right, there were a number of different 570 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: parties at this period, but the one that would come 571 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: to dominate the Munich far right scene was of course 572 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: the National Socialist German Workers Party the n s d 573 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: a P. They were founded in February of nineteen twenty 574 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: by a fellow named Anton Drexler. A lot of people 575 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: don't know this. Hitler didn't start the Nazi Party. He 576 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: wasn't involved at the very beginning. It was a locksmith 577 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: named Drexler who had been involved previously in a bunch 578 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: of other fanatical nationalist parties. Now from the beginning the 579 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: n s d a P. And they're not the Nazis 580 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: at this point, nobody calls them that yet that that 581 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: that takes for a while. Laters at this point called 582 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: him the National Socialists or the n s d AP. 583 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: Their goal initially was to be the party of the 584 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: German middle class, and I think you'll remember that from 585 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: our episode on Italy. Yep, Drexler sought robust social aid 586 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: programs for arians. So he wanted socialism four arians, right, 587 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: and he wanted anyone who was not to not be 588 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: in his fucking country. That's that. Yeah. Now, at the onset, 589 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: the National Socialists were a small and secretive group of 590 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: about sixty people. Now, the reichs Wear, which is Germany's 591 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: post war army, becomes immediately concerned with this small party, 592 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: namely because they were afraid that it might have subversive 593 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: or revolutionary goals. Right, the army is definitely more anti 594 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: left than right, but they're concerned about anyone who might 595 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: be a threat to order in this period. So they 596 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,479 Speaker 1: decided to send in a spy to look at this 597 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: young starting party and figure out if it's a threat. 598 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: And the spy they send is a young German corporal 599 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: named Adolf Hitler. Like of of all the times, I 600 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: mean like of So there's so much of world history 601 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: that fascinates me. But this moment, this time, this time, 602 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: the in between wars, this time is so interesting to me? 603 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: U is it so interesting that we should take an 604 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: ad break for a suspect. Yeah, you know who won't 605 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: send Hitler in to infiltrate a radical political party and 606 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: then become its head. Our sponsors, they will not. Our 607 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 1: sponsors have never ordered Adolf Hitler to infiltrate of right 608 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: wing political That for a fact, Absolutely certain. 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Here's 647 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 1: what you can do for these people, which is some 648 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 1: of the Uh well, I don't get into these Gussies 649 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: anymore because it ridiculous, but um, help these people understand 650 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,479 Speaker 1: this party having the term socialists in it, but they're 651 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: not so to list like yeah, yeah, help them understand net. 652 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: It's just they're they're national socialists, which means which means 653 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 1: they're they're kind of and in their conception that means that, like, 654 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,760 Speaker 1: we seek a socialist state for members of our race, 655 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 1: so we want to and and some of that was 656 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 1: just was just lies because the Germans a lot of 657 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 1: stuff is happening here. For one thing, the left is 658 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 1: very powerful in Germany during this point. The Communists are 659 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,320 Speaker 1: beating the Nazis for the most part in elections for 660 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,879 Speaker 1: most of this history. So and they're both competing for 661 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: people who have been radicalized, like we talked about last time, 662 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 1: people who have accepted that the system is fucked, a 663 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: lot of them can go left or right. So the 664 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: Nazis have to be reaching out to the workers have 665 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 1: to be trying to recruit from that. And there's also 666 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 1: you know, you are talking about a period of time 667 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,399 Speaker 1: in which the German economy is it's like five point 668 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 1: seven billion marks to the dollar, Like Germany is a 669 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,839 Speaker 1: nation of trillionaires who can't afford food. So you have 670 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,360 Speaker 1: to be able to speak to these people in promise 671 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 1: them some sort of aid. And that was a big part. 672 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 1: And and the way basically the left is like everybody 673 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: deserves to be taken care of. We need to take 674 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: money away from these We need to nationalize industries, we 675 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 1: need to nationalize corporations, We need to give the means 676 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 1: of production to workers. The Germans are basically like, we 677 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,840 Speaker 1: need to take money away from the Jews and businesses 678 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,359 Speaker 1: away from the Jews and give it to arians, right 679 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:26,839 Speaker 1: because of them. Yeah, the idea of like accepting the 680 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 1: fact that, like you lost this war. I feel like 681 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 1: that's what's so that this is part of what's interesting 682 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: me about this season to this time in history, because 683 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 1: it's like you couldn't get your brain around the fact 684 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 1: that y'all just lost, Like it just you lost. You 685 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 1: drained your economy on a war that you shouldn't have 686 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 1: been in the first place. Again, nothing that sounds similar 687 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 1: to this country today exactly. Just hey, bro, you take 688 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 1: it on a chance you lost, you know what I'm saying, 689 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,399 Speaker 1: Let's figure this out. Were you looking for, Like, well, 690 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 1: we just lost because of them? Like well anyway, Yeah, 691 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 1: none of this is familiar. And it's also when we're 692 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 1: talking about sort of socialism within the Nazis. One thing 693 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,880 Speaker 1: people do need to understand is that in the early period, 694 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 1: and this hasn't even really evolved yet in the episode 695 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 1: we're talking about, this is more in like the later twenties, 696 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 1: there's a left wing and a right wing of the 697 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 1: Nazi Party. There are Nazis who are anti capitalist. The 698 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 1: Night of Long Knives is the right wing of the 699 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 1: Nazi Party, which is the dominant chunk of the party, 700 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 1: murdering all of those. Which is not to say that 701 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 1: the left wing of the Nazi Party weren't a bunch 702 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:37,280 Speaker 1: of hideous racist monsters. They were, um, they just believed 703 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 1: slightly different things and were then murdered, right Like, that's 704 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 1: that's what the Night of Long Knives was, was a 705 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 1: purging of the kind of more socialist elements within the 706 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 1: Nazi Party that they needed to kind of get into 707 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 1: power and get enough workers behind them that they could 708 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:54,400 Speaker 1: you know, um, take the streets. Um. So again, a 709 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:58,320 Speaker 1: lot of chairman, his political history is incredibly complicated in 710 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,840 Speaker 1: this period, so much is going on. Um And again, 711 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 1: like people who are convinced that the system needs to 712 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 1: be destroyed will often have some stuff in common with 713 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 1: each other, which is why you do see Nazis and 714 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,840 Speaker 1: communists on a couple of occasions, like fight together against 715 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,839 Speaker 1: police in the state, not because they agree with each other, 716 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 1: but because they agree on the fact that the state 717 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:26,360 Speaker 1: is ship. Um. You know, it's it's a very messy 718 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 1: time because everything is falling apart. Again, I'm sure Americans 719 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:35,799 Speaker 1: can identify with that. Um. So. Yeah, this Hitler's you know, 720 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 1: commanding officer sends him to infiltrate this far right group 721 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 1: and learn if it's like a threat to the German government, 722 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 1: which I think you have to count as like one 723 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 1: of the worst decisions ever made, like calculation, and I 724 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 1: don't know if anything's ever backfired more than be like, 725 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 1: we don't want to we we want to make sure 726 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 1: these guys don't overthrow the government. Send Hitler and the 727 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 1: check out him. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah. 728 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 1: Mostly underestimated big it. So Hitler at the time was 729 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 1: an angry young man, still suffering from his war injuries. 730 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 1: He'd been pretty badly messed up at the front, and 731 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,799 Speaker 1: he'd been at the front for about four straight years. 732 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 1: So he's he's riddled with PTSD and physically injured, and 733 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 1: he's adrift in a nation on the verge of collapse. 734 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,720 Speaker 1: The economy is in free fall. People don't have jobs, 735 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:21,919 Speaker 1: and Hitler's kind of One of the reasons he does 736 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 1: this is he's desperate to not get kicked out of 737 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 1: the military. Most soldiers are released from the military after 738 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,760 Speaker 1: the war. He hangs onto his job for a while 739 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 1: and this is how and he needs the fucking money, right, 740 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 1: so he takes this gig. He goes in and shows 741 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 1: up at a meeting or two of the Nazi Party, 742 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,839 Speaker 1: and he finds himself kind of enthralled by the group's discussions. Now, 743 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 1: one of the party's early members was a fellow named 744 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 1: Dietrich Eckert. Now. Eckert was an anti Semitic poet, and 745 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 1: most historians consider him to be the spiritual founder of 746 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 1: the Nazi Party. Hitler himself, in some private writings, described 747 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 1: Eckert as the spiritual founder of Nazism. Now Eckert was 748 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 1: all about nationalism and saving Germany from the Jewish menace 749 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 1: that he believed had lost the war for her bereft 750 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 1: of a Kaiser, Dietrich became convinced that an Aryan hero 751 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,959 Speaker 1: was needed to save the German race, and he spent 752 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,959 Speaker 1: a lot of his time thinking about who that hero 753 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 1: might be. And I'm gonna quote Dietrich here. This is 754 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,279 Speaker 1: talking about like what he believes is necessary to save Germany. Yeah, 755 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 1: the rabble has to be scared shitless. I can't use 756 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,719 Speaker 1: an officer, by which he means a military officer. The 757 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 1: people no longer have any respect for them. Best of 758 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,759 Speaker 1: all would be a worker who's got his mouth in 759 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 1: the right place. He doesn't need much intelligence. Politics is 760 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 1: the stupidest business in the world, right, I mean, politics 761 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:49,400 Speaker 1: is the stupidest posiness. Yeah, you have to see Eckard 762 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:50,839 Speaker 1: is in a lot of ways one of the most 763 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 1: effective and like political thinkers of all time, he's absolutely 764 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 1: right about how to take over German Democratcsy. It's a 765 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 1: seats the plan works. Yeah, he turns out he was right. Yeah. Now, 766 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 1: during one early Nazi party meeting, a professor got up 767 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,440 Speaker 1: and made an impassioned argument about why Bavaria needed to 768 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 1: seceed from Germany. Hitler got enraged by this, and he 769 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 1: starts screaming at this professor and he's so eloquent in 770 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,400 Speaker 1: his arguments about like why Germany needs to stay together 771 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,800 Speaker 1: that like everyone who's there is just struck by his 772 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,880 Speaker 1: his skill as a speaker. Um, And this professor actually 773 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,759 Speaker 1: like flees the room in shame because he can't like 774 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 1: argue against Hitler. And yeah, this convinces all of the 775 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 1: party leaders at the time that Hitler had a future 776 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,839 Speaker 1: as an orator, that he could be like a big 777 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 1: voice for spreading the party's propaganda. So they start having 778 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 1: Hitler gift speeches and they're right, Like he's able to 779 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:45,880 Speaker 1: draw a crowd. That guy is a good public speaker. 780 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,400 Speaker 1: He gets better and better about it over time, and 781 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,800 Speaker 1: in short order he's the most prominent member of the 782 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 1: National Socialist Party and soon it's figurehead. Now, the Nazis 783 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,800 Speaker 1: grew quickly at this point, drawing in other disaffected veterans 784 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,879 Speaker 1: like Herman Gearing and Rome. Now, Rome had been a stormtrooper, 785 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 1: and he's a really interesting guy. He's one of the 786 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,319 Speaker 1: members who's purged in the Night of Long Knives. So 787 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,360 Speaker 1: he had in World War One been like a Special 788 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,320 Speaker 1: Forces guy, an elite assault trooper. He's covered head to 789 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,399 Speaker 1: toe in scars. His nickname because he has so many 790 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 1: connections in the military. He's able to get like heavy 791 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,880 Speaker 1: machine guns for these militias and stuff like have them 792 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 1: smuggled out illegally from the army to these right wing groups. 793 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 1: They call him the machine Gun King, which is an 794 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 1: objectively cool nickname. The Rome is a terrifying person um 795 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 1: and and it's just like a like and if you 796 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 1: want to think about his the way he's seen by 797 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 1: a lot of the radical right at this point point 798 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,120 Speaker 1: in Germany, think about a guy like Chris Kyle, right, 799 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 1: the American Sniper, how Republicans talk about him. Rome was 800 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:49,440 Speaker 1: that sort of legend. He's just this this absolute legendary brawler, 801 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:55,880 Speaker 1: warrior brawler. He's also very almost openly gay, which is 802 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:57,960 Speaker 1: why he's murdered in the light night of Long Knives, 803 00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 1: right is because like Hitler doesn't want kind of bad 804 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:04,359 Speaker 1: pr He's a very interesting guy. Um yeah, he's a 805 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,720 Speaker 1: tough He's a tough and that's like a huge factor 806 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,759 Speaker 1: in you know there there again we talked about all 807 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 1: these kind of countercultural movements coming together. You see versions 808 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 1: of this within the Proud Boys too, right, like where 809 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,800 Speaker 1: and that's a big part of Like at the time, 810 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 1: what you know, Rome sexuality wasn't something that they advertised. 811 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 1: Now it is kind of an advertising point where it's like, hey, 812 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,480 Speaker 1: we're not white nationalists, Like look, you know our leaders, 813 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,440 Speaker 1: this our leader is like a black guy. We've got 814 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 1: all these gay people, like, we couldn't possibly be fascists. 815 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,719 Speaker 1: And it's like no, no, no. The fascists have had 816 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 1: always at the start a lot of different people represented 817 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,920 Speaker 1: as long as they're violent. Now, once they get into power, 818 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 1: they murder those people. Rome doesn't last after Hitler gets 819 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:52,120 Speaker 1: into power. No, no, no, But Hitler's happy to be 820 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,200 Speaker 1: his friend when he needs him to beat people up. 821 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,319 Speaker 1: The Finesse on that kid, Hitler, man, it's just that 822 00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:02,240 Speaker 1: the Finesse is ridiculous, Like yeah, yeah, you can't finesse 823 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 1: is ridiculous. Anyway, Hitler starts attracting these war heres because 824 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,439 Speaker 1: Garing is also herman. Garring is like a fighter ace 825 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,040 Speaker 1: and he's very handsome as a young man, like everyone knows, 826 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 1: like the obese heroin addicted Garing that like you know, 827 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,960 Speaker 1: gets caricatured. But he's a young man. He's this like 828 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,279 Speaker 1: very handsome, prominent look like he looks like a movie star. 829 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,799 Speaker 1: And he's a legendary fighter pilot. You've got Ernst Rome, 830 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:24,919 Speaker 1: who's just like tough as nails. And all of these 831 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,920 Speaker 1: like war heroes start joining the Nazi ranks, which of 832 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 1: course brings in more guys from the far right because 833 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:34,279 Speaker 1: you've got as a young man. Yeah, you need a 834 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,320 Speaker 1: young one. Now I'm looking at young one. This dude's handsome, 835 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:43,480 Speaker 1: young herman Gary, drop the league. Yeah, I'll show you 836 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 1: a picture of him. I'll show you a picture of him. 837 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,239 Speaker 1: Drop that into chet. You know what I'm saying. We're 838 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,920 Speaker 1: gonna agree to disagree on this one. This is a 839 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,640 Speaker 1: point to motherfucker looking like no, no, no, no, no, no, 840 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:57,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw. I'm gonna throw like an ugly lego 841 00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 1: loss from one of the rings. Well, got it. Well 842 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,200 Speaker 1: you gotta type those over there? So I mean no, 843 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:11,240 Speaker 1: I don't ugly. Okay, chat picture of them? Okay, hold 844 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,400 Speaker 1: up this the same picture I was looking at. Yes, 845 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,200 Speaker 1: this is not an attractive man. He looks like he 846 00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,879 Speaker 1: looks like a young bing Crosby. Yo. That's a little 847 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,640 Speaker 1: bit of you know what I'm saying, little Matthew McConaughey. Jaw, Yeah, 848 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:26,719 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It's traditionally I I don't 849 00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,919 Speaker 1: want to get caught into the talking about how hot 850 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 1: Herman Garring used to be. He's still a monster. He is, 851 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,719 Speaker 1: he's he is seen as being an attractive young wars 852 00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:40,840 Speaker 1: here traditionally attractive, recording to Western standard. Also, half of 853 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 1: the men in Germany in this period have had their 854 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:47,440 Speaker 1: faces blown off. So it's the bar is not as hot. Um, 855 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:52,400 Speaker 1: it's like Ricketts. Yet it's no for me, dog Okay, 856 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:56,759 Speaker 1: well good does not think Herman Garring is hot. Well, 857 00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,480 Speaker 1: that's a T shirt right there on the motherfucking record 858 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:03,360 Speaker 1: we needed need to know. Let's get two sets of 859 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,319 Speaker 1: T shirts out. Team Herman Garring was fuckable and Team 860 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,879 Speaker 1: Herman Garring wasn't fuckable yet Sophie, can we get can 861 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:11,760 Speaker 1: we get t public on that? Is that a good idea? 862 00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:17,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure, but I don't know. It's just just a 863 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:22,440 Speaker 1: picture of herman garring and DTF questions. Uh, that might 864 00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:26,279 Speaker 1: not go over well for us. It's all bad, so 865 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 1: uh Yeah, they start to draw in a lot of 866 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,359 Speaker 1: like because they've got all these war heroes, they start 867 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,799 Speaker 1: to draw in a lot of other people on the 868 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,440 Speaker 1: right who had idolized these men's soldiers who you know, 869 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,680 Speaker 1: these guys have been their heroes in the trenches, and 870 00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,160 Speaker 1: also younger men who hadn't been old enough to fight 871 00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,120 Speaker 1: in the war. But we're drawn to wanting to be 872 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:46,680 Speaker 1: in the company of these legends, guys like Heinrich Hemmler. Right, 873 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,480 Speaker 1: he sees all these heroes joining the Nazis. He never 874 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,880 Speaker 1: got to fight in the war, so he joins the Nazis. 875 00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:56,080 Speaker 1: Now Hitler's give speech after speech after speech, and while 876 00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 1: he's doing this, Dietrich Eckert is helping Hitler mold his 877 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,520 Speaker 1: public appearance and create what came to be known as 878 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,360 Speaker 1: the Hitler myth. And this is the idea that Hitler 879 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,920 Speaker 1: was not just a politician, but he kind of supernaturally 880 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,960 Speaker 1: embodied the spirit of the German people and was their 881 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:14,880 Speaker 1: defender against their racial enemies. Eckert is the architect of 882 00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,400 Speaker 1: this idea, which is the core of like what became 883 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:21,279 Speaker 1: It comes like the fewer principle, like the center of Nazism. Now, 884 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,320 Speaker 1: one of Eckert's main points was that a new German 885 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:28,520 Speaker 1: revolution was necessary. The nineteen eighteen revolution, he felt, which 886 00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,839 Speaker 1: is like the socialist revolution that takes a Remunich, had 887 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:35,160 Speaker 1: failed because it was soulless and Jewish. Eckert wanted a revolution, 888 00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,760 Speaker 1: but he wanted a revolution that was led by someone 889 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 1: he crafted, namely hitler Um, that could lead the German 890 00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,480 Speaker 1: people into freedom and wipe away the stain of defeat 891 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:48,239 Speaker 1: in World War One. Now, of course, the Nazis were 892 00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,759 Speaker 1: opposed even from an early period, as they always are, 893 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,840 Speaker 1: by the left, namely socialists and communists. In this period, 894 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,719 Speaker 1: and this is before the birth of German anti fascism 895 00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,640 Speaker 1: asm as a movement. There are people fighting fascism, but 896 00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,400 Speaker 1: like the idea of like antifa as we know it 897 00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,160 Speaker 1: like comes out of Germany like a decade later than 898 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,319 Speaker 1: this or so um that hasn't really evolved yet, and 899 00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,000 Speaker 1: there anti fascism in Germany in this period is at 900 00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:15,520 Speaker 1: a more primitive level than it is in say Italy. Right, Um, 901 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,240 Speaker 1: so there are but they are still opposing the Nazis, 902 00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,000 Speaker 1: and there are frequent fights at Nazi party rallies. Communists 903 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,640 Speaker 1: and socialists will show up at beer halls where Nazis 904 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,359 Speaker 1: are meeting and like try to beat the ship out 905 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,480 Speaker 1: of these guys, and the Nazis will do the same 906 00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,279 Speaker 1: thing at left wing gatherings. All everything, every political thing 907 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,319 Speaker 1: in Munich happens at a beer hall. And you do 908 00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,840 Speaker 1: have to assume that everyone but Hitler has wasted it 909 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,640 Speaker 1: pretty much all the time. Hitler's not much of a drinker. 910 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,800 Speaker 1: Everybody else is just fucking man. How come like as 911 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:44,720 Speaker 1: unstable as the world is like at this time, Matt, 912 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:46,759 Speaker 1: you know, I wonder if we would have much more 913 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:51,000 Speaker 1: people entering into political discourse if they fought the way 914 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,759 Speaker 1: that these people fight, y'all just drinking scrap, Like could 915 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,239 Speaker 1: you imagine that that like our party, I know, our 916 00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,520 Speaker 1: parliament in the sevent was like this, you know what 917 00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,240 Speaker 1: I'm saying, eight Hunt, It's we used to actually scrap, 918 00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,080 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But like these dudes like 919 00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,839 Speaker 1: like you you talking. It's so funny because it's like 920 00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 1: it's this is hood ship. This sounds like gangbanging, Like 921 00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,040 Speaker 1: y'all pulling up. It's like, Yo, you left this, yeah, 922 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,040 Speaker 1: and n I'm left this. What's what's? What's what I'm saying? 923 00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:18,640 Speaker 1: It's like you flashing signs at each other, y'all. Y'are politicians. 924 00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,279 Speaker 1: Y'are politicians. You know what I'm saying? Like what that's 925 00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,319 Speaker 1: so that's what I think again, that's going back to 926 00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:29,359 Speaker 1: what I mean by like we don't have we don't 927 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:35,240 Speaker 1: have categories for it is their officials fight. Yeah, that's 928 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:40,200 Speaker 1: crazy to me. M yeah, they are like like and 929 00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,000 Speaker 1: this is a lot of these guys are like kind 930 00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,840 Speaker 1: of not elected, like elected leaders do get into fights 931 00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:48,000 Speaker 1: and stuff. This. Yeah, a lot of these guys are 932 00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:49,839 Speaker 1: just sort of like campaigning and a lot of it 933 00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:53,040 Speaker 1: happens via street fighting, and it's it's ugly ship. People 934 00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:57,040 Speaker 1: are being gunned down and stabbed and beating um like 935 00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,800 Speaker 1: it's nasty stuff. And in fact it gets so n 936 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,200 Speaker 1: see that not only does like Hitler start carrying a 937 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,400 Speaker 1: whip and a handgun so that he can like slash 938 00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,919 Speaker 1: people's faces open during barbawls, but the Nazis, in order 939 00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:11,239 Speaker 1: to like defend their meetings, develop a powerful and organized 940 00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,320 Speaker 1: street fighting arm uh. These guys are called the Storm 941 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,000 Speaker 1: Abtai Lung or the Storm Division, and they were created 942 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,600 Speaker 1: an early nineteen twenty as a hall protection force, like 943 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,799 Speaker 1: a beer hall protection force, for like the meetings that 944 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,920 Speaker 1: the party would hold in Munich. Now, in addition to 945 00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:28,520 Speaker 1: having like a bunch of guys who would show up 946 00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,440 Speaker 1: to like crackheads and fight communists, they also opened a 947 00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:35,200 Speaker 1: sports and gymnastics wing which started training their men in boxing, 948 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,200 Speaker 1: jiu jitsu and exercise. And you see the same thing 949 00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,839 Speaker 1: with modern fascist there's a lot of fascist and neo 950 00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,680 Speaker 1: Nazi m M A. Jim's a strong like lifting culture 951 00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:45,840 Speaker 1: among them, like the Rise Against movement, who are a 952 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,759 Speaker 1: big part of Charlottesville Unite the Right in Charlotte'sville. Like 953 00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,959 Speaker 1: you know that that the idea of like Nazis loving 954 00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,239 Speaker 1: to get into jiu jitsu. Nothing against jiu jitsu, it's 955 00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:56,960 Speaker 1: rad as hell, but like the fact that they've been 956 00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:00,279 Speaker 1: into it that goes back a century. Doug Man, I'll 957 00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:02,200 Speaker 1: tell you what bro like, Yeah, it's been playing times 958 00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,680 Speaker 1: where I'm like I just man, I just do some 959 00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:08,600 Speaker 1: like somebody like metasthetics like plio metrics stuff. Man, I'm 960 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:10,480 Speaker 1: not going to these gyms just just like you just 961 00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,520 Speaker 1: feel like it's just full of these like buck boys, 962 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,359 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And now it makes sense. 963 00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,279 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, there's a history of this. Yeah, there's 964 00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,359 Speaker 1: a history which is like there's also some pretty rad 965 00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,160 Speaker 1: you know, anti fascist like m m A gyms and 966 00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:27,120 Speaker 1: stuff out there. Yeah, because I think it's important to 967 00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,720 Speaker 1: train people who aren't Nazis and how to defend themselves 968 00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,520 Speaker 1: against But there's a long history of like there's a 969 00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:37,080 Speaker 1: there's a huge like fascist m m A fighting like 970 00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,880 Speaker 1: network in Eastern Europe, particularly in Ukraine. Like they'll have 971 00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,319 Speaker 1: these big conventions and and competitions and stuff like it's 972 00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:48,520 Speaker 1: a big part of that kind of culture. Um. Yeah, 973 00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,279 Speaker 1: so that you know that starts with the Nazis in 974 00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,480 Speaker 1: this period. Um, they're doing jiu jitsu in nineteen fucking twenty, 975 00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:59,080 Speaker 1: so that's kind And the Stormtrooper catchphrase in this period 976 00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:03,879 Speaker 1: was a very subtle death to the Jews. So not 977 00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:07,640 Speaker 1: great at keeping a lid on what they're about, you know. 978 00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,680 Speaker 1: Now in nineteen Herman Garring was promoted to lead the 979 00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,640 Speaker 1: storm moub Tailung, hereafter known as the essay. These are 980 00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,120 Speaker 1: the guys that come to be known as the brown Shirts. Now, 981 00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,400 Speaker 1: by that point, his men had spent much of the 982 00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,880 Speaker 1: last two years and by being a steady diet of 983 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:26,520 Speaker 1: race hatred and revolutionary fascist propaganda. Wilhelm Bruckner, who was 984 00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,439 Speaker 1: the head of the Munich Stormtroopers, told Hitler that year 985 00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,480 Speaker 1: that very soon Hitler would be unable to restrain his 986 00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,640 Speaker 1: men from doing something. And what Bruckner was warning about 987 00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:37,360 Speaker 1: is the same thing we saw in Washington, d C. 988 00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:39,919 Speaker 1: On the sixth. If you have this movement of young 989 00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,520 Speaker 1: men that you gin up with conspiracies about child eating 990 00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,240 Speaker 1: pedophiles and the globalist destruction of their race and nation, 991 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,360 Speaker 1: which is exactly the kind of a lot of the 992 00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,560 Speaker 1: ship the Nazis are learning hearing this period is like 993 00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:53,160 Speaker 1: q and on ship right, very similar. If you if 994 00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,840 Speaker 1: you get a bunch of angry, violent young men obsessed 995 00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:00,439 Speaker 1: with weaponry focused on that ship for years, they will 996 00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,759 Speaker 1: demand to go shed blood to stop it at some 997 00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:04,520 Speaker 1: point and you won't be able to stop them. And 998 00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:08,160 Speaker 1: kind of one of the areas where you know Trump 999 00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:12,480 Speaker 1: fucked up is he didn't do anything with them cohesive, 1000 00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:13,799 Speaker 1: because I don't think he ever had much of a 1001 00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:17,040 Speaker 1: cohesive plan. So they raided the capital and caused a 1002 00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:21,719 Speaker 1: crackdown on themselves. It's beyond him now, yeah, it's beyond him. Now. 1003 00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,799 Speaker 1: Hitler doesn't let it get beyond him. He realizes this 1004 00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,759 Speaker 1: is happening and that action needs to be taken now. 1005 00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:29,600 Speaker 1: For a while he was able to kind of burn 1006 00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:33,080 Speaker 1: out this excess energy among his street fighters by having 1007 00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:36,319 Speaker 1: them go after journalists and newspaper offices, having them tear 1008 00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,480 Speaker 1: down political propaganda and beat up left wing canvassers in 1009 00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,719 Speaker 1: the streets. So he has them assaulting his enemies and 1010 00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,160 Speaker 1: part to just try to get off this excess energy 1011 00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,600 Speaker 1: so they don't blow up and like tip their hand 1012 00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,920 Speaker 1: too early. And of course all of the fighting and 1013 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,319 Speaker 1: violence in the street they're doing is very illegal under 1014 00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,680 Speaker 1: under German law at the time. But the police president Powner, 1015 00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:59,880 Speaker 1: who we've talked about earlier, ensured the Nazis faced few consequences. 1016 00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:02,040 Speaker 1: And I'm gon quote from McGee's article on the Munich 1017 00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:05,279 Speaker 1: political police. At this point, the debt with which the 1018 00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,760 Speaker 1: Nazi movement owed Powner was real. As police president, Powner 1019 00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,480 Speaker 1: extended a sheltering hand to protect the activities of the 1020 00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,760 Speaker 1: nascent Nazi movement. In doing so, he ensured its survival 1021 00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:18,280 Speaker 1: and gave it an opportunity for future growth. This passive image, however, 1022 00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,000 Speaker 1: does little to convey the full dimensions of Powner's commitment 1023 00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:24,120 Speaker 1: to both the radical right in general and Nazis in particular. 1024 00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,799 Speaker 1: As a key figure in Bavarian politics during the post 1025 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:30,560 Speaker 1: war period, Powner actively aided the Volcush movement and occupied 1026 00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,800 Speaker 1: a central position in its highest councils. And the Vocish 1027 00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,120 Speaker 1: movement is like all these ideas about the Aryan race 1028 00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,839 Speaker 1: and the German people that kind of feed into Nazism. 1029 00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:43,080 Speaker 1: I mean they had like that judges. Yeah, we'll be 1030 00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:47,680 Speaker 1: talking about the judges. Becomes a judge. He's becomes a judge. 1031 00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,520 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, these will sitting in court with their legs 1032 00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:54,239 Speaker 1: all the way up, feet cross like yeah, yeah, go ahead. Yeah. 1033 00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:56,759 Speaker 1: For an example of how biased he was, at one 1034 00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,240 Speaker 1: point during his time as the chief of police in Munich, 1035 00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:02,120 Speaker 1: Powner is asked if he realizes the Nazis are murdering 1036 00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:05,360 Speaker 1: people in the streets of Bavaria, and he replies yes, 1037 00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:10,840 Speaker 1: but far too few of them. So now, as an aside, 1038 00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,040 Speaker 1: unrelated to anything we're talking about at present, we now 1039 00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,480 Speaker 1: know that at least twenty eight police officers were present 1040 00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:20,480 Speaker 1: for the storming of the capital on January six. Um. 1041 00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:22,640 Speaker 1: I should note that in two thousand eighteen, after a 1042 00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,239 Speaker 1: series of dueling protests in Portland between left and right 1043 00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:28,480 Speaker 1: wing demonstrators that ended with police assaulting and hospitalizing a 1044 00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:32,160 Speaker 1: left wing activist, internal planning documents from the police revealed 1045 00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:35,480 Speaker 1: that they viewed the fascist activists as quote much more 1046 00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:39,400 Speaker 1: mainstream than the anti fascists. There's a long through line, 1047 00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:43,319 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, yeah, that mainstream has quite a subtext. 1048 00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:49,960 Speaker 1: It sure does, sure does. Probably so by nineteen three, 1049 00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:51,960 Speaker 1: the thrill of beating the ship out of their enemies 1050 00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,400 Speaker 1: in the streets was wearing thin for the storm Abtai Lung. 1051 00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,680 Speaker 1: Now roughly two thirds of the Nazi Party membership was 1052 00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,040 Speaker 1: under the age of thirty one at this point. The 1053 00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,000 Speaker 1: is our young men who want to drink and fight 1054 00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,640 Speaker 1: and revolt against the liberals and Jews they see is 1055 00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,680 Speaker 1: ruining their country. Right, Um, they look a lot like 1056 00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:12,239 Speaker 1: the Proud Boys. It's a group of like macho, like 1057 00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:15,840 Speaker 1: testosterone loaded young men who drink and probably do a 1058 00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:17,680 Speaker 1: lot of like the Proud Boys do a lot of cocaine. 1059 00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:19,640 Speaker 1: I'm guessing a lot of these guys are on blow too, 1060 00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:23,359 Speaker 1: you know, not uncommon in Germany in that period. So 1061 00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,319 Speaker 1: Hitler was super on board with getting these guys into 1062 00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:30,319 Speaker 1: the fight do largely to what he and the rest 1063 00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:32,840 Speaker 1: of the world had watched Benito Mussolini's Black Shirts do 1064 00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,120 Speaker 1: in Italy the year before, Because again the March on 1065 00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:38,040 Speaker 1: Rome is the year before Hitler does his beer hall punch. 1066 00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,000 Speaker 1: Twenty three is the beer hall punch. And I'm gonna 1067 00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:43,240 Speaker 1: quote now from a book called The Trial of Adolf 1068 00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:46,240 Speaker 1: Hitler by David King, and that he's this is Hitler 1069 00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:49,760 Speaker 1: talking at first. If a German Mussolini is given to Germany, 1070 00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,400 Speaker 1: Hitler said to a journalist for London's Daily Mail on 1071 00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,920 Speaker 1: the eve of the push, people would fall down on 1072 00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,919 Speaker 1: their knees and worship him more than Mussolini has ever 1073 00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:02,120 Speaker 1: been worshiped. This journalist was unimpressed. In private, he dismissed 1074 00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:05,160 Speaker 1: Hitler as another hot air merchant. But Hitler had in 1075 00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:08,240 Speaker 1: fact decided to follow in the Fascist footsteps and march 1076 00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,480 Speaker 1: on Berlin. The original plan had been to strike on 1077 00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,800 Speaker 1: Saturday night, November ten. This was, after all, the weekend, 1078 00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:17,240 Speaker 1: which Hitler believed was the best time for a revolution. 1079 00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,040 Speaker 1: Authorities would be away from their desks, police would be 1080 00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,439 Speaker 1: reduced to a minimal staff, and the lighter traffic would 1081 00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,400 Speaker 1: not impede on the movement of his trucks and troops. 1082 00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:29,200 Speaker 1: So Hitler becomes convinced after seeing Mussolini that like, not 1083 00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:32,200 Speaker 1: only did Missolini have some great ideas, but this will 1084 00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:35,640 Speaker 1: work even better in Germany, um, because we kind of 1085 00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:38,920 Speaker 1: have more of an authoritarian culture. Italy when Mussolini took over, 1086 00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:43,320 Speaker 1: had a much longer democratic Germany a lot more authoritarianism. 1087 00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:47,160 Speaker 1: Hitler's like, if I present myself the way Mussolini did, 1088 00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,280 Speaker 1: I'll be even more powerful. People will join me on 1089 00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:52,600 Speaker 1: the road to Berlin, and we'll take over the whole country. Now, 1090 00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:56,520 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, h Yeah he's not. I mean, he 1091 00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,560 Speaker 1: was wrong in this instance, but not overall. There's an 1092 00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:04,120 Speaker 1: interest thing like um even with that like Germans like 1093 00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:10,600 Speaker 1: at the time, propensity towards like authoritarian like I still 1094 00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:15,120 Speaker 1: think even and and then their their assualted is towards 1095 00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:19,919 Speaker 1: Catholicism when I think about their like Protestant movement um 1096 00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:24,720 Speaker 1: being so informed by sort of like reform Calvinist thought 1097 00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:28,880 Speaker 1: like this, this idea that like humans are so depraved 1098 00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:33,040 Speaker 1: at their core because of sin. You know what I'm saying, Like, 1099 00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:38,960 Speaker 1: you can't trust them to make good choices for themselves. 1100 00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:43,200 Speaker 1: So you need a strong man in the same way 1101 00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:45,960 Speaker 1: that Jesus was your strong man. You know what I'm saying, 1102 00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:49,320 Speaker 1: to make to make these answers, to choose these for you, 1103 00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:51,640 Speaker 1: because I mean, you're full of sin nature, So why 1104 00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:53,520 Speaker 1: would we trust what you would vote for yourselves. No, 1105 00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:56,320 Speaker 1: you need a guy. You need a guy, a dude 1106 00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,560 Speaker 1: in charge that can tell you what's better for you 1107 00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:03,840 Speaker 1: because you can't trust your own instincts. 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Dot Org brought 1155 01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:49,720 Speaker 1: to you by the United States Forest Service and the 1156 01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:56,320 Speaker 1: ad Council. We're back. So now Hitler knows he wants 1157 01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:58,480 Speaker 1: to march on Berlin. He wants to do a Mussolini 1158 01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:00,800 Speaker 1: but better. But he's he's had a dumb guy. He 1159 01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:03,959 Speaker 1: realizes that he alone doesn't have a big enough name 1160 01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:07,640 Speaker 1: to successfully push Bavaria. He's very popular within Munich and 1161 01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,360 Speaker 1: the Munich right, he's not a national figure at this point, 1162 01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:13,240 Speaker 1: so he has to enlist the help of a national figure, 1163 01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:17,439 Speaker 1: and he picked someone he had idolized, General Eric Ludendorff. Now, 1164 01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:20,120 Speaker 1: the old General had already tried to take over the 1165 01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:23,080 Speaker 1: government once before, right after World War One um and 1166 01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:25,240 Speaker 1: had failed at that, but he hadn't really been punished 1167 01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:28,400 Speaker 1: because you know, he was the war hero. He's Ludendorff, 1168 01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:30,920 Speaker 1: he was the architect of the victory over Russia. Uh. 1169 01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:33,840 Speaker 1: He was just very beloved and he was a massive 1170 01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:37,200 Speaker 1: figure for the right wing, revered and respected. For his part, 1171 01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:40,560 Speaker 1: the old Field Marshal had spent his declining years becoming 1172 01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:44,240 Speaker 1: an increasingly massive racist and conspiracy theorist and mostly pushing 1173 01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:47,120 Speaker 1: the stab in the back narrative blaming the loss in 1174 01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:49,440 Speaker 1: World War One on the Jews all that stuff. You 1175 01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:53,400 Speaker 1: could see him as like a General Flynn figure. Um, 1176 01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:56,720 Speaker 1: he's he's this very popular among the far right general 1177 01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:00,400 Speaker 1: who shacks up with this far right political Now. The 1178 01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:03,880 Speaker 1: big difference is that General Flynn has been like profoundly 1179 01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,720 Speaker 1: loyal to Donald Trump, and Ludendorff just kind of saw 1180 01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,440 Speaker 1: Hitler as a vector for which he could, you know, 1181 01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:13,000 Speaker 1: push his kind of fringe right wing politics became more 1182 01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:17,080 Speaker 1: storm and Norman sports cough head ass yeah a little, yeah. 1183 01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:21,080 Speaker 1: I mean he's not that yeah, yeah, he's not like 1184 01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:23,959 Speaker 1: he's not like, um, loyal to Hitler, but he sees 1185 01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:26,160 Speaker 1: Hitler as a guy he can use, and Hitler sees 1186 01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,400 Speaker 1: Ludendorff as a guy he can use. I feel like 1187 01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:31,200 Speaker 1: in that that exact sentence is like was the dagger 1188 01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:33,640 Speaker 1: for almost all a political parties, y'all thoughts I could 1189 01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:37,280 Speaker 1: uses man like he wasn't. Yeah anyway, yeah, I mean. 1190 01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:39,880 Speaker 1: And so Hitler goes to Ludendorf and is like, hey, 1191 01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:42,080 Speaker 1: I want to overthrow the government. I want to be 1192 01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:44,680 Speaker 1: the dictator, and I want to have you be basically 1193 01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:46,920 Speaker 1: like running the country with me. You'll be in charge 1194 01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:50,280 Speaker 1: of the army and together will bring Germany back to greatness, 1195 01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:54,280 Speaker 1: and Ludendorf gives a soft yes, the kind of yes 1196 01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:56,560 Speaker 1: that could mean, to know if like the police came 1197 01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:59,120 Speaker 1: to his door and he could say like, but he's like, yeah, 1198 01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:01,000 Speaker 1: if you do it, like come on board, I'll take 1199 01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:03,600 Speaker 1: over the army if you win, you know, like that's 1200 01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:07,560 Speaker 1: the kind of yes. Ludendorf gives him um, but he's 1201 01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:09,800 Speaker 1: he's he's on board as long as he doesn't have 1202 01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:11,720 Speaker 1: to stick his neck out too much. Is kind of 1203 01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:15,880 Speaker 1: like Ludendorf's attitude towards this. So the initial plan for 1204 01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:18,560 Speaker 1: the putsch is November ten, but they wound up pushing 1205 01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:20,920 Speaker 1: it up by two days kind of at the last minute, 1206 01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:24,680 Speaker 1: the Thursday, November eight, because Gustav von Kar who's basically 1207 01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:27,560 Speaker 1: he's the General Commissar, he's basically like the governor of 1208 01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:30,800 Speaker 1: of of of Munich Um. He's giving a speech at 1209 01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:32,800 Speaker 1: the Burger brow Keller beer Hall, which is one of 1210 01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:35,720 Speaker 1: Munich's most prestigious places for people to drink heavily and 1211 01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:41,600 Speaker 1: do politics. Burger Carl Burger, the Burger Brownber Beer Hall. Yeah, man, 1212 01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:44,080 Speaker 1: we need to rename something like that because that's yeah, 1213 01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:47,560 Speaker 1: I would still around today. I think really. Yeah, yeah, 1214 01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:50,200 Speaker 1: So this is where the putsch actually starts. So Car 1215 01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:53,560 Speaker 1: is in charge in Munich, and he is He's been 1216 01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:56,400 Speaker 1: brought to power and what some would call a military coup. 1217 01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:59,320 Speaker 1: Um it was kind of a soft coup, but basically, 1218 01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:01,640 Speaker 1: after the liberal rolls had let the left seize the 1219 01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:05,160 Speaker 1: city and revolt, the military made sure that a strongman 1220 01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:08,080 Speaker 1: like Car wound up in charge after the you know, 1221 01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:11,160 Speaker 1: a year or so later, and Carr had vowed during 1222 01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:13,880 Speaker 1: his campaign to turn the city into a cell of 1223 01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:18,560 Speaker 1: law and order. Oh god, they keep saying that, keep 1224 01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:21,760 Speaker 1: saying that, which just keep saying law and order, but 1225 01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:27,200 Speaker 1: just you don't never happens never. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm 1226 01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:31,120 Speaker 1: gonna quote from author David King describing cars politics here. 1227 01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:34,760 Speaker 1: He welcomed right wing extremists to settle in the region, 1228 01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:37,760 Speaker 1: and many of them in turn joined the paramilitary societies 1229 01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:40,560 Speaker 1: emerging in the aftermath of the war and revolution. Car 1230 01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:43,600 Speaker 1: also organized many of these bands into a loose coalition 1231 01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:47,360 Speaker 1: called the Iron Waterweven or Citizens Militia that would soon 1232 01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:50,760 Speaker 1: surpass three hundred thousand men. Car would use this volunteer 1233 01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:53,600 Speaker 1: home guard and everything from law enforcement to border patrol. 1234 01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:57,440 Speaker 1: They were necessary, he said, like a fire brigade. So 1235 01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:02,080 Speaker 1: Carr builds this citizen militia, basically a private army of 1236 01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:04,920 Speaker 1: himself for his own, to crack down on the left. 1237 01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:08,800 Speaker 1: And Germany at this point is forbidden from having much 1238 01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,360 Speaker 1: of a real military. They're captive about a hundred thousand 1239 01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:13,960 Speaker 1: soldiers in the reichs Fair um. And this is a 1240 01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:16,480 Speaker 1: part of the Treaty of Versailles. And France realizes that 1241 01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:20,200 Speaker 1: Car is raising up thousands and thousands of private soldiers, 1242 01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:23,520 Speaker 1: and they complained that he's building a new German army, 1243 01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:26,840 Speaker 1: and he's forced to disband his militia. UM. Now this 1244 01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:29,440 Speaker 1: pisses off the far right, the fact that Car caves 1245 01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:34,120 Speaker 1: and cancels his militia and tells his guys to go home. Um. 1246 01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:36,480 Speaker 1: And a lot of them consider him like the fascist 1247 01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:38,320 Speaker 1: equivalent of a rhino at this point, you know, a 1248 01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:41,200 Speaker 1: republican and name only like they're like cars. Not really 1249 01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:44,240 Speaker 1: on the right. What he got cooked by the French 1250 01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:50,800 Speaker 1: yea Um. But he's still very popular with the center right, 1251 01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:55,080 Speaker 1: and he's seen as something of like a a resistance 1252 01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:58,960 Speaker 1: hero um among like the center right. So he's you know, 1253 01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:01,520 Speaker 1: he's not like popular on the fringe right, but he's 1254 01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:05,000 Speaker 1: popular on the middle right. So in October. Now, another 1255 01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:06,400 Speaker 1: thing that's happening at this period of time is, in 1256 01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:10,560 Speaker 1: August of nineteen twenty three, Gustav Stresseman is elected Chancellor 1257 01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:13,760 Speaker 1: of Germany. Um and right before he comes to power, 1258 01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:16,400 Speaker 1: the Germans had begged the Allies for a moratorium on 1259 01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:19,400 Speaker 1: reparations payments because the German economy is collapsing in this 1260 01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:21,640 Speaker 1: period and they just can't afford it. The French had 1261 01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:25,000 Speaker 1: refused to put in a moratorium on payments, and then 1262 01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:27,480 Speaker 1: in order to get money out of Germany that Germany 1263 01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:30,720 Speaker 1: wasn't sending, they invaded and occupied the Ruhr, which is 1264 01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:36,160 Speaker 1: Germany's industrial heartland. So Germany defaults on their payments after, 1265 01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:38,480 Speaker 1: like you know, before they invade the rule and like 1266 01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:40,600 Speaker 1: the fact that the French invade pisses off all of 1267 01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:43,840 Speaker 1: Germany and particularly the German right wing. Yeah so is 1268 01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:46,920 Speaker 1: this this again? Yeah, like a little little little human 1269 01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:49,080 Speaker 1: in his story here is like, yeah, so you guys 1270 01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:51,440 Speaker 1: knew chancellor because they had to write a whole new constitution, 1271 01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:54,959 Speaker 1: the rohole new constitution, got a new chancellor. They gotta 1272 01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:58,320 Speaker 1: payback Audisy. They destroyed for his war. They already feel 1273 01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:00,880 Speaker 1: salty about that, like, damn, I gotta I gotta clean it. 1274 01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:02,680 Speaker 1: I gotta pay for artists, you know what I'm saying, 1275 01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:06,760 Speaker 1: And in a like literally we're broke, Like God, damn it, 1276 01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:09,480 Speaker 1: we're broke, you know what I'm saying. So then and 1277 01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:11,400 Speaker 1: then for France to be like, oh, you gonna give 1278 01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:15,439 Speaker 1: me my money, They're like what money, Well, they don't 1279 01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:20,439 Speaker 1: have anything. What money? We don't have it. Yeah, we 1280 01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:23,120 Speaker 1: starved to death on turnips last winter, like we have 1281 01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:27,240 Speaker 1: nothing like you saw it. We lost. Damn man, we lost, 1282 01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:29,680 Speaker 1: and no we are like we got it. Yeah. And 1283 01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:32,559 Speaker 1: this this a lot of the anger at the Treaty 1284 01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:35,719 Speaker 1: of Versailles and the way the French are behaving gets 1285 01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:41,160 Speaker 1: pushed onto the German liberals, who like because their internationalists 1286 01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:44,559 Speaker 1: kind of like try to engage with the French, and 1287 01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:46,519 Speaker 1: Gustop stress him and gets elected. And one of the 1288 01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,000 Speaker 1: first things he does is he orders the end of 1289 01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:51,160 Speaker 1: a general strike against the French and the RU and 1290 01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:55,320 Speaker 1: he starts resuming reparations payments and this enrages the right 1291 01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:57,920 Speaker 1: wing and so and stress him and knows it's going 1292 01:08:57,960 --> 01:08:59,880 Speaker 1: to so he has the President of the Reich to 1293 01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:03,680 Speaker 1: clear and emergency. The Bavarian government gets piste by this 1294 01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:06,839 Speaker 1: because they hate Stressman. They're all very conservative, he's a liberal, 1295 01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:08,960 Speaker 1: and they're like, basically, this guy has been cucked by 1296 01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:11,439 Speaker 1: the French, and they declare Bavaria to close its own 1297 01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:14,160 Speaker 1: state of emergency. Now, the decision to do that was 1298 01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:17,040 Speaker 1: made by the Triumvirate that ruled Bavaria, which consisted of 1299 01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:19,760 Speaker 1: von Kar General von Lasso, who's in charge of the 1300 01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:22,439 Speaker 1: army in Bavaria, and the commander of the state police, 1301 01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:25,639 Speaker 1: a guy named Cisser I think. Now, this Triumvirate had 1302 01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:28,920 Speaker 1: publicly refused a number of orders from Berlin as a 1303 01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:30,960 Speaker 1: show of protest and as red meat to their right 1304 01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:33,000 Speaker 1: wing base. So basically it's like a state in the 1305 01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:36,720 Speaker 1: United States refusing orders from the federal government because it's 1306 01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:40,360 Speaker 1: against what their political base wants. Um. And this is 1307 01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:44,280 Speaker 1: mostly for show, because yeah, this is mostly for show, um. 1308 01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:46,599 Speaker 1: Because like, the federal government has the ability to deny 1309 01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:49,000 Speaker 1: funds to Bavaria, right, which kind of fox them over. 1310 01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:52,599 Speaker 1: And so by early November, the Triumvirate is losing heart 1311 01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:54,679 Speaker 1: because they wanted to get red meat to their base 1312 01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:57,519 Speaker 1: and like improve their own personal popularity by saying fuck 1313 01:09:57,560 --> 01:09:59,640 Speaker 1: you to the central government. But they didn't want to 1314 01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:03,240 Speaker 1: pay consequences. So they're starting to cave by November. But 1315 01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:06,360 Speaker 1: most voters don't know that. And so when von Kar 1316 01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:08,840 Speaker 1: takes the stage at the burger Brow beer Hall on 1317 01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:11,599 Speaker 1: November eight, the really like a lot of people show 1318 01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:13,919 Speaker 1: up because they think he's about to announce that Bavaria 1319 01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:18,280 Speaker 1: is seceding from Germany. Um. Now Hitler knows that's not 1320 01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:21,519 Speaker 1: gonna happen. He knows that's very unlikely because Hitler sees 1321 01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:24,280 Speaker 1: von Kar is basically a moderate. But he also knows 1322 01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:27,720 Speaker 1: that a huge crowd, including all of the people running Bavaria, 1323 01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:29,960 Speaker 1: are going to be in the beer hall that night, 1324 01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:32,519 Speaker 1: which makes it a great place to occupy with armed men. 1325 01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:34,639 Speaker 1: If you're going to do a push, if you're pushing, 1326 01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:36,519 Speaker 1: you know, that's where you want to put this where 1327 01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:40,000 Speaker 1: you push the put. Yeah, this is the beer hall. 1328 01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:42,240 Speaker 1: The burger Brow beer Hall is the equivalent of the 1329 01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:44,800 Speaker 1: capital on January six. Here it's like where all these 1330 01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:48,080 Speaker 1: elected leaders are. If you want to actually capture these people, 1331 01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:51,200 Speaker 1: this is where you do it. Um. So he gets 1332 01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:54,040 Speaker 1: together his stormtrooper leaders and his key advisors, and they 1333 01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:56,439 Speaker 1: work with their police insider, who's a fellow named Frick. 1334 01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:59,360 Speaker 1: Because a lot of cops are Nazism. I'm not even 1335 01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:03,000 Speaker 1: gonna put like timeline on that. A lot of cops. 1336 01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:07,160 Speaker 1: Let's just let a little bit, okay cool, So Frick, 1337 01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:10,320 Speaker 1: this cop ensures that the police presence outside the beer 1338 01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:13,360 Speaker 1: hall is minimal. Like all of the guys running Bavaria 1339 01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:16,280 Speaker 1: are there, but they don't have very many cops protecting them, 1340 01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:18,760 Speaker 1: and that's by design to make it easier for the 1341 01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:22,640 Speaker 1: storm troopers. So Hitler sets yeah, I know another thing 1342 01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:29,360 Speaker 1: that has never happened again, yea. So Hitler's other lackeys, 1343 01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:31,519 Speaker 1: the guys who aren't like fighters, get set to the 1344 01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:34,760 Speaker 1: organizing propaganda. One man was set was like put to 1345 01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:37,680 Speaker 1: the job of organizing the distribution of posters and newspapers 1346 01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:41,880 Speaker 1: announcing the Nazi overthrow of the government. Hitler's half American friend, 1347 01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:44,679 Speaker 1: a guy named Hunt Stengele that are known as Putsy, 1348 01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:47,840 Speaker 1: who's like a Harvard graduate um, was in charge of 1349 01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:50,679 Speaker 1: making stir. The foreign press was there without knowing why 1350 01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:53,519 Speaker 1: they were there, because Puts a charmer, he's a he's 1351 01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:56,559 Speaker 1: a like an aristocrat. Guy. He's good at talking to people. 1352 01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:59,040 Speaker 1: He's good talking to like American media, so like the 1353 01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:02,080 Speaker 1: New York Times has a guy there on this night. Now, 1354 01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:04,920 Speaker 1: Hitler and his entourage show up at the beer hole 1355 01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:08,519 Speaker 1: uh that night, like as thousands of people are gathered 1356 01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:10,960 Speaker 1: up outside to get in to watch von Kar speak, 1357 01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:13,439 Speaker 1: and Hitler's immediately gets out of his I think it's 1358 01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:16,120 Speaker 1: a Mercedes, and he's immediately greeted by a crowd of 1359 01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:19,320 Speaker 1: three thousand people outside the hall because there is very 1360 01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:22,240 Speaker 1: popular in with the right in Munich. So he gets 1361 01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:24,400 Speaker 1: mobbed by this crowd who wanted to know if, like 1362 01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:26,759 Speaker 1: he knew what von Kar was going to speak about, 1363 01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:29,000 Speaker 1: is you know, are we going to succeed? What's happening? 1364 01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:31,160 Speaker 1: And Hitler's like, I'm just a guest. I'm here like 1365 01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:33,280 Speaker 1: the rest of you. And he goes inside to get 1366 01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:35,000 Speaker 1: a beer, and he doesn't get a beer because he 1367 01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:37,559 Speaker 1: wants to drink it. Hitler's not really a drinker right now, 1368 01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:40,839 Speaker 1: and then he'll he'll like down like um, some champagne 1369 01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:43,160 Speaker 1: or something. He's not much of a drinker. He has 1370 01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:46,200 Speaker 1: the beer because Garing has warned him, like, hey, we're 1371 01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:48,040 Speaker 1: going to try to overthrow the government. We don't want 1372 01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:50,519 Speaker 1: people to realize we're onto something early. If you're sitting 1373 01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:52,400 Speaker 1: in a beer hole in Munich with a beer, no 1374 01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:54,479 Speaker 1: one will suspect that you're planning to break the law 1375 01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:58,360 Speaker 1: because it's Munich. Um. So Hitler gets a beer and 1376 01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:01,400 Speaker 1: he's like kind of nursing it. Um and Car takes 1377 01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:04,640 Speaker 1: the podium. Now, car speech is boring and pointless, in 1378 01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:06,680 Speaker 1: a big bummer to everybody. He just starts like he's 1379 01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:09,479 Speaker 1: not succeeding. He starts a standard harangue about the evils 1380 01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:12,240 Speaker 1: of Marxism, about how Munich was going to fight the 1381 01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:17,000 Speaker 1: contagion and quintessential evil of socialism, pretty normal right wing stuff. 1382 01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:20,680 Speaker 1: Um And Hitler is reported to have asked his men 1383 01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:23,960 Speaker 1: during cars speech, does anyone understand what he's talking about? Like? 1384 01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:29,120 Speaker 1: What the fund is this guy doing up there? Him? Yeah, 1385 01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:33,120 Speaker 1: well this is going on while you know, Hitler and 1386 01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:35,760 Speaker 1: his kind of inner circle or watching Car speak, and 1387 01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:37,560 Speaker 1: this beer hall has got thousands of people in it. 1388 01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:42,240 Speaker 1: Hitler's stormtroopers are assembling nearby. Now, a twenty six year 1389 01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:45,160 Speaker 1: old cigar a dealer named Josef was the quartermaster. And 1390 01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:47,639 Speaker 1: so he basically like as the troops assembled, he starts 1391 01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:50,880 Speaker 1: handing out rifles and machine guns and grenades to several 1392 01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:53,680 Speaker 1: dozen of the Nazi Party's best fighters, the men of 1393 01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:58,040 Speaker 1: Stostrip Hitler or the Hitler Assault Squad. Now, these guys 1394 01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:01,360 Speaker 1: wore a gray military uniform with a silver Death's Head 1395 01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:04,360 Speaker 1: badge on their caps. The star Strup would wind up 1396 01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:07,640 Speaker 1: evolving into the shoot Staffle, which is the infamous SS right, Like, 1397 01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:10,040 Speaker 1: that's the the guys who, among other things, man the 1398 01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:14,240 Speaker 1: concentration camps. At this point, they're Hitler street fighters, um, 1399 01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:16,400 Speaker 1: and are responsible for protecting him and stuff. And these 1400 01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:18,599 Speaker 1: are the guys he's going to use to be the 1401 01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:21,840 Speaker 1: the armed fist of his push. Now, before the putch, 1402 01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:24,479 Speaker 1: Hitler had given his fighters a few suggestions for how 1403 01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:28,800 Speaker 1: to behave He had told them cruelty impresses, and don't 1404 01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:31,679 Speaker 1: leave a fight unless you're being carried out dead. God, 1405 01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:37,000 Speaker 1: these are disorders, screen light. Look you only had the 1406 01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:41,240 Speaker 1: only way you leave is in a bag. Yeah, these 1407 01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:44,280 Speaker 1: guys are sucking. Um. You know, he's a gangster. This 1408 01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:47,639 Speaker 1: is a gangster regime. A lot of people at the time, actually, 1409 01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:50,280 Speaker 1: like a lot of American newspapermen in the twenties and 1410 01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:52,439 Speaker 1: thirties will say this about the Nazis. These people are 1411 01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:57,519 Speaker 1: working gangsters. Yeah yeah, Now, a little before eight thirty pm, 1412 01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:00,599 Speaker 1: a hundred stormtroopers swarmed the premises of the Burger Brow 1413 01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:04,080 Speaker 1: and entered the beer hall, shouting Heil Hitler and waving guns. 1414 01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:07,200 Speaker 1: Herman Gering, who led the assault team, told the police 1415 01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:10,719 Speaker 1: officers outside that the government was being overthrown. The dozen 1416 01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:13,479 Speaker 1: or so cops there were easily overpowered. Garing and his 1417 01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:16,200 Speaker 1: men secured the building, and as he entered he called 1418 01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:18,479 Speaker 1: for quiet. Now everybody's drunk at this point, so they 1419 01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:20,519 Speaker 1: don't get quiet. So he has to shoot into the 1420 01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:23,679 Speaker 1: roof with his handgun. Then he liked basically hands things 1421 01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:25,760 Speaker 1: over to Hitler, who pulls off his trench coat to 1422 01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:28,479 Speaker 1: reveal a black suit with two iron crosses pinned to 1423 01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:30,960 Speaker 1: his lapel. And I'm gonna quote next from a right 1424 01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:34,519 Speaker 1: up by Douglas oh Linder. He jumped up on a table, 1425 01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:37,360 Speaker 1: pulled out a pistol, and fired two shots into the ceilings. 1426 01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:39,400 Speaker 1: The second guy who's fired into the ceiling that night, 1427 01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:43,040 Speaker 1: it keeps happening. It happened several more drinking guys and 1428 01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:45,880 Speaker 1: fired two shots into the ceiling silence, he yelled. Then 1429 01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:48,160 Speaker 1: Hitler and several supporters pushed their way to the front 1430 01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:50,679 Speaker 1: of the room and confronted speaker Car at the podium. 1431 01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:53,960 Speaker 1: Stormtroopers pointed a machine gun at the crowd. Many who 1432 01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:56,040 Speaker 1: were in the audience leader said that they suspected they 1433 01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:59,479 Speaker 1: were about to witness an assassination. Hitler shouted to the crowd, 1434 01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:02,880 Speaker 1: Then national revolution has begun. Six hundred armed men are 1435 01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:06,080 Speaker 1: occupying this hall. No one may leave. The governments of 1436 01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:09,160 Speaker 1: Bavaria and in Berlin have been overthrown. Army barracks and 1437 01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:11,679 Speaker 1: police headquarters are now under the control of this party. 1438 01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:14,240 Speaker 1: None of this was true, but Hitler hoped and suspected 1439 01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:16,920 Speaker 1: that it would be soon enough. Hitler then told car 1440 01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:19,680 Speaker 1: and two other important political leaders, General von Lasso and 1441 01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:22,000 Speaker 1: Colonel von Seisser, that they should join him in a 1442 01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:25,360 Speaker 1: side room for a conversation about Bavaria's future. After the 1443 01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:28,439 Speaker 1: men leave, Garing told the crowd, you all have your beer, 1444 01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:31,880 Speaker 1: keep drinking. You have nothing to worry about. It's gonna 1445 01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:36,200 Speaker 1: be fine. It's just a butch. Chill out, guys. Nobody 1446 01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:38,360 Speaker 1: has to die. Man, keep drinking. Just no I'm in charge. 1447 01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:42,080 Speaker 1: That's it. Yeah, we're in charge where the Nazis. It's fine, 1448 01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:48,520 Speaker 1: it's fine. So Hitler's goal was to convince the Triumvirate 1449 01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:51,760 Speaker 1: to back his plan. He wanted Bavaria's army units and 1450 01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:54,400 Speaker 1: police on his side. He doesn't want to fight these guys. 1451 01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:56,360 Speaker 1: His plan is to do a grander version of what 1452 01:16:56,439 --> 01:16:59,840 Speaker 1: Mussolini had done and start marching with ten's basically all 1453 01:16:59,880 --> 01:17:02,080 Speaker 1: of the right wingers in the military of Bavaria and 1454 01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:04,439 Speaker 1: start marching up to Berlin. And he imagines thousands of 1455 01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:06,160 Speaker 1: people are going to join them on the way, and 1456 01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:08,639 Speaker 1: once they reach Berlin, they're going to overthrow the liberal 1457 01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:11,840 Speaker 1: government easily in institute of fascist state run by Hitler 1458 01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:14,760 Speaker 1: and Ludendorff. And of course for that to happen, they 1459 01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:20,000 Speaker 1: can't get bogged down fighting the Bavarian state right now. Seisser, 1460 01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:23,040 Speaker 1: loss Ou and car were all pretty close to being 1461 01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:26,680 Speaker 1: fascists themselves. But these guys are all state loyal right, 1462 01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:29,599 Speaker 1: they're not revolutionaries. They don't want to overthrow the government. 1463 01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:31,920 Speaker 1: They want the government to change into a more right 1464 01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:35,080 Speaker 1: wing government. But they're not like bomb throwers like Hitler 1465 01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:38,960 Speaker 1: is um. So they didn't want to follow this weird 1466 01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:42,160 Speaker 1: little Nazi guy in open rebellion against the state. Now, 1467 01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:44,679 Speaker 1: Hitler tried to smooth talk them. He promised them cushy 1468 01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:47,519 Speaker 1: positions in the new regime. Car is a monarchist and 1469 01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:49,599 Speaker 1: Hitler tells him like, hey, man, I'm gonna bring back 1470 01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:52,040 Speaker 1: the King of Bavaria and you can be his envoy 1471 01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:58,920 Speaker 1: to the government. Isn't that like your dream? Um? Right? Yeah, 1472 01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:02,559 Speaker 1: So they risk this um Car and Lasso and everyone 1473 01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:04,479 Speaker 1: like they're not they're not on board with this, And 1474 01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:07,400 Speaker 1: before very long, Hitler did what Hitler's do, and he 1475 01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:10,920 Speaker 1: starts threatening to murder them at gunpoint. Now, Ludendorff, who 1476 01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:14,040 Speaker 1: like when the occupation of the beer hall starts, Ludendorff 1477 01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:15,920 Speaker 1: like some Nazi show up at his house and you're like, hey, 1478 01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:18,080 Speaker 1: you know that thing you kind of agreed to, we're 1479 01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:21,439 Speaker 1: doing it. Ludendorff like shows up and it's like, okay, 1480 01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:23,519 Speaker 1: I guess we'll see if this works. And he's kind 1481 01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:26,840 Speaker 1: of horrified by Hitler's behavior because Ludendorf is a he's 1482 01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:30,200 Speaker 1: like a classic imperial German manners dude, right, there are 1483 01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:34,040 Speaker 1: ways in which you, especially these people are nobles. You 1484 01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:36,479 Speaker 1: don't you don't point a gun in their face, right, 1485 01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:39,840 Speaker 1: Like that's very ghost and he's not. He doesn't like 1486 01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:42,360 Speaker 1: Hitler in a lot of ways because Hitler's a fucking, 1487 01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:47,439 Speaker 1: you know, kind of a peon to him, but he's not, 1488 01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:50,320 Speaker 1: you know, he's he's he's gotten acclimatized to being in 1489 01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:54,800 Speaker 1: high society. Hitler is very much crude, um damn. And 1490 01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:57,760 Speaker 1: Ludendorf is kind of like horrified by this, but he's 1491 01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:00,320 Speaker 1: he's still on board with the general plan because he 1492 01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:02,280 Speaker 1: wants to take over the government and institute the right 1493 01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:06,800 Speaker 1: wing military dictatorship. And eventually, now that once Ludendorff shows 1494 01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:10,759 Speaker 1: up to these guys, car And and Lasso and Sisser 1495 01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:14,360 Speaker 1: kind of agree to help the putsch and agree to 1496 01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:18,080 Speaker 1: like basically put the powers of the Bavarian state behind 1497 01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:21,600 Speaker 1: Hitler's push attempt. And they didn't really mean it, but 1498 01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:23,640 Speaker 1: a guy was threatening to murder them, so they're like, 1499 01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:30,559 Speaker 1: all right, yeah, yeah. Now, while this was happening, different 1500 01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:33,439 Speaker 1: armed groups of Nazis were out capturing key parts of 1501 01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:36,679 Speaker 1: the city. The Bavarian War Ministry was taken by Ernst 1502 01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:39,760 Speaker 1: Rome and his men, including young Heinrich Himler, and they 1503 01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:43,320 Speaker 1: proceeded to fortify it. Another group of four hundred stormtroopers 1504 01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:45,479 Speaker 1: was sent to take guns and equipment from the Army 1505 01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:48,200 Speaker 1: Engineer barracks. Now this is a very fun story because 1506 01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:50,599 Speaker 1: these Nazis all show up and the captain on duty 1507 01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:53,240 Speaker 1: who's like in charge of handing out guns and stuff. 1508 01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:55,600 Speaker 1: They're like, hey, we're here to do maneuvers. Can we 1509 01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:59,479 Speaker 1: borrow the guns? Um? And the captain realizes something is 1510 01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:02,360 Speaker 1: very fi she and it's like, you can use the guns, 1511 01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:04,120 Speaker 1: but you can't go on maneuvers outside. You got to 1512 01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:06,640 Speaker 1: show up inside and like the big gymnasium and then 1513 01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:08,120 Speaker 1: I'll hand you the guns there and you can do 1514 01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:11,599 Speaker 1: your maneuvers inside. And so all four hundred Nazis go 1515 01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:15,639 Speaker 1: into the gymnasium and he locks it from the outside. Brilliant, brilliant. 1516 01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:22,360 Speaker 1: Yeah here here, bro, Yeah, yeah, I got you us 1517 01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:27,840 Speaker 1: right here there, Yeah, right inside the door, I got you. Yeah. 1518 01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:30,160 Speaker 1: This guy's name should be remembered. His name is Captain 1519 01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:33,280 Speaker 1: Oscar Canceler, and he ruled. He he saves the German 1520 01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:36,320 Speaker 1: state that night. He definitely stays at least for a 1521 01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:38,320 Speaker 1: little while. You know, it didn't last, but he did 1522 01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:41,120 Speaker 1: his bit um. So the Nazis who were locked inside 1523 01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:43,080 Speaker 1: couldn't call Hitler to let him know they had the 1524 01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:45,200 Speaker 1: guns and we're ready to take part in the push. 1525 01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:47,439 Speaker 1: And Hitler was waiting for that call. Right, He's got 1526 01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:50,040 Speaker 1: teams going out and seizing places in the city, and 1527 01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:52,479 Speaker 1: he realizes, like, these dudes haven't called in from the 1528 01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:55,200 Speaker 1: barracks yet, right, something must be wrong. And this was 1529 01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:58,200 Speaker 1: a key part of his intricate plan. Uh and he knew. 1530 01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:01,559 Speaker 1: So this kind of puts Hitler in a bind. Um. 1531 01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:05,040 Speaker 1: He knew that the triumvirate were not enthusiastic about this plan, 1532 01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:07,240 Speaker 1: and if if he was going to keep them enthusiastic 1533 01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:10,439 Speaker 1: and like kind of forced them to be enthusiastic his men, 1534 01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:12,320 Speaker 1: And we're going to have to be in total control 1535 01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:14,639 Speaker 1: of the city, right, if he could, if he could 1536 01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:17,080 Speaker 1: really be in charge in Munich, they weren't going to 1537 01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:19,000 Speaker 1: fight him. They give the army the orders to go 1538 01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:20,679 Speaker 1: along with it, right because they don't want to die. 1539 01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:24,679 Speaker 1: But he's got to actually be in charge. And making 1540 01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:27,960 Speaker 1: his first critical mistake, Hitler desize it's necessary for him 1541 01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:30,720 Speaker 1: to leave the Burger Brow beer hall late that night 1542 01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:33,160 Speaker 1: to see what's going on at the Engineer barracks. And 1543 01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:36,960 Speaker 1: he leaves Ludendorff alone with the triumvirate. This is a 1544 01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:41,080 Speaker 1: bad call. Oh, So Hitler and his Nazis know these 1545 01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:43,519 Speaker 1: guys are captives. He knows that he's holding them against 1546 01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:46,280 Speaker 1: their will. He knows that if they're agreeing, it's they're 1547 01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:51,400 Speaker 1: not really that on board with the idea. Ludendorff again 1548 01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:54,320 Speaker 1: is kind of not being told the entire truth about 1549 01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:57,280 Speaker 1: what's happening, and he thinks these guys are fellow German patriots, 1550 01:21:57,400 --> 01:22:00,640 Speaker 1: right um. And he also thought they looked heared you know, 1551 01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:02,439 Speaker 1: it's been a long night. And he's like, do you 1552 01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:04,240 Speaker 1: guys want to go home and like take a nap 1553 01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:06,320 Speaker 1: or something, And they're like, yeah, we would like to 1554 01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:09,160 Speaker 1: go home. And he's like, bro, yeah, man, you guys 1555 01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:12,000 Speaker 1: are German officers. I, as a German officer, know that 1556 01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:15,000 Speaker 1: no German officer would ever lie. Give me your word 1557 01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:17,439 Speaker 1: of honor that you'll come back to help us finish 1558 01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:21,040 Speaker 1: the coup tomorrow. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll be back. What's 1559 01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:23,240 Speaker 1: time we'll be yeah, they say, of course we'll come back, 1560 01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:28,080 Speaker 1: of course. Bro, what's I what's I like? Tan? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1561 01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:30,360 Speaker 1: we'll see you in the morning. Yeah. So some of 1562 01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:32,479 Speaker 1: the Nazis. There are Nazis in the room too, and 1563 01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:34,519 Speaker 1: they see Ludendorff doing this, they're like, dude, they're not 1564 01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:38,000 Speaker 1: gonna come back. And Ludendorff gets pissed at them, and 1565 01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:42,040 Speaker 1: he's like, I forbid anyone in this room from doubting 1566 01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:49,120 Speaker 1: the word of a German officer. How dare you? Yeah, 1567 01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:52,679 Speaker 1: when I was a kid, uh, you know, the like 1568 01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:55,920 Speaker 1: the clue you was about to get knocked out but 1569 01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:59,360 Speaker 1: robbed by somebody like hey, hey, hey, hey, I'll borrow 1570 01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:02,520 Speaker 1: you a phone right quick, let me use your phone. Yeah, 1571 01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:05,240 Speaker 1: Well you would look and be like, don't get that 1572 01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:08,160 Speaker 1: man your phone. Do not walk over there and get 1573 01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:09,280 Speaker 1: at mean, what are you talking my many? You just 1574 01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:12,400 Speaker 1: want to borrow my phone. Don't give him your phone? 1575 01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:15,719 Speaker 1: And what do you do? You keep walking bro like hey, 1576 01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:18,600 Speaker 1: hey man, come on, let me just use it right quick? No, 1577 01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:22,559 Speaker 1: man like like you know what do you what do you? 1578 01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:24,280 Speaker 1: What do you? What are you doing? What are you doing? Well? 1579 01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:27,920 Speaker 1: There it is now you're now you're sleeping. Hey, just 1580 01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:30,280 Speaker 1: put you to sleep, and your barefoot The guy just 1581 01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:33,240 Speaker 1: stole your shoes. I told you not to. Yeah, so 1582 01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:36,240 Speaker 1: that that's totally funny. Like the guys in room saying yeah. 1583 01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:38,719 Speaker 1: The boss is like, yeah, let him go take a nap, 1584 01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:40,280 Speaker 1: and the dudes are like, hey, I don't think that's 1585 01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:42,760 Speaker 1: a good idea. Man, you really think they're gonna come back? Like, 1586 01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:45,360 Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna come back. Hey, boss, maybe 1587 01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:48,680 Speaker 1: you shouldn't let them leave you kind of seeing this 1588 01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:54,639 Speaker 1: why Ludendorff didn't win the war, right, like this good idea? Coach, Yeah, 1589 01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:59,280 Speaker 1: hey boss, this might not be the plan. So that 1590 01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:02,639 Speaker 1: is where we're gonna leave it in part one. General 1591 01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:07,400 Speaker 1: Ludendorff the genius of German military tactics. 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