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Speaker 1: Thea Around the NFL podcast, The inventors of the man Cannon.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansas, and I'm joined by a

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Speaker 1: room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and Gregg Rosenthal.

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Speaker 1: What's up, boys? Hey? Dan? You know that could be

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Speaker 1: misinterpreted in the in the wrong hands by a listener

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Speaker 1: that's not aware that the man cannon is one of

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Speaker 1: West's go to shirts ever since he got into a

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Speaker 1: serious romance flationship. Yeah, it's it's more like a shirt

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Speaker 1: slash hoodie, isn't it. Yeah, most hoodies are sweatshirts. This

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Speaker 1: is just a hooded shirt, basically one of the one

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Speaker 1: of the basic tenants of Wes's relationship, or one of

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Speaker 1: the requirements for West. His paramore said, out with the plaid,

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Speaker 1: in with the stylish, you know, kind of like, Hey,

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Speaker 1: let's go over to the gap, let's check out what

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Speaker 1: are some other places went to? I don't even know

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Speaker 1: what these stores are called anymore. Whatever the stores are,

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Speaker 1: the outfit needs to say I'm more manly than you.

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Speaker 1: That's what they what they say. I don't know about

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Speaker 1: how that's Greg reading into fields. You seem to be

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Speaker 1: slightly threatened by Wests. I'm just impressed. The word that

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Speaker 1: was used was she told me my wardrobe was two country,

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Speaker 1: which I think is code for something reading too that.

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Speaker 1: I just like the image of West, you know, going

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Speaker 1: up and down the highway, stopping in a nice outlet mall,

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Speaker 1: going to l l Bean for a while, having a

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Speaker 1: nice tuna fish sandwiches. He restocks his wardrobe. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this has been a total revamping, so thousands of dollars,

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Speaker 1: I would guess, um, you know, and if you're gonna

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Speaker 1: get honest, what are you even talking about. It's for

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Speaker 1: your first playoff podcast. Well, don't blame us, blame the

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Speaker 1: wild card games, which you know, bad week bad weekend

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Speaker 1: of wild card football. Even the the patron saint of

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Speaker 1: you know, spinning positive when it comes to bad football

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Speaker 1: would not be able to defend what we saw, which

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Speaker 1: was and and Mark, as you know, tweeted all over

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Speaker 1: the place. The four wild card games had a total

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Speaker 1: margin of victory of seventy six points. That nineteen point

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Speaker 1: average makes it the most lopsided wild card weekend since

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Speaker 1: nine one. Pertel Research and many other places spin Greg spin, no, No,

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Speaker 1: spinning bad weekend. Yeah, the Giants and Packers gave us

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Speaker 1: an entertaining three quarters. Certainly a compelling game. I mean

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Speaker 1: there was fun things happening. But other than that, the

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Speaker 1: the other three games, well we're we're a wash. I

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Speaker 1: mean the other three games the kickoff announced garbage time,

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Speaker 1: Like there was nothing fundamentally interesting about any of them.

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Speaker 1: Out of the gate, and make sure you listen to

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Speaker 1: today's show, say, which is sponsored of course by Mr

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Speaker 1: F's or Mr Flames economics class in the Hague. Positive.

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Speaker 1: Here's what here's the spinning Positive. It sets up an

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Speaker 1: incredible divisional round where you've got all the division winners

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Speaker 1: and you've got three just heavyweight fights next week. So

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Speaker 1: when you got the favorites winning, that helps. Not sure

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Speaker 1: Mr f got his due there, It just kind of

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Speaker 1: got lawnmowered right over. That is if you want to

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Speaker 1: be positive, because it was a letdown of a weekend.

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Speaker 1: But uh, you got rid of the Lions, you got

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Speaker 1: and and the Giants who could not keep pace. So

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Speaker 1: you got those teams out and away we go. We're

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Speaker 1: down to what seven games laughed? Now does that make sense.

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Speaker 1: What's the math that's correct? Seven games? I mean, unless

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Speaker 1: that's that's under the assumption that's super Bowl fifty one occurs. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I thought it wasn't gonna be completed. It might not

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Speaker 1: happen at all. Don't have a winner. We'll discuss further.

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Speaker 1: There is this another apocalypse scenario, millions upon millions of

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Speaker 1: be seven more full games is where is where I'd

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Speaker 1: gonna get four games. We're gonna go through each one

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Speaker 1: really breaking it down, and uh, and that will be

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Speaker 1: the focus of today's Sunday show. And then as we

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Speaker 1: spin forward into next week, we will talk about the

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Speaker 1: divisional playoffs, But for now we will focus on these games.

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Speaker 1: And why don't we start with what was kind of

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Speaker 1: the New York Giants. Oh who locked it? Double lock

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Speaker 1: it up? A double lock. Beautiful work, gentleman. The Packers

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Speaker 1: and Chris Westling. The Packers started slow here but finished

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Speaker 1: with a now familiar onslaught. For anybody who didn't actually

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Speaker 1: watch this game, it's gonna be hard to believe how

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Speaker 1: That's how dominant the Giants were. And then quarterback wins happened.

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Speaker 1: It's a quarterback win. Aaron Rodgers put that team on

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Speaker 1: if we're gonna see him again this season, and Roger said,

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Speaker 1: let's listen to Really the Packers had woken up ready,

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Speaker 1: thirteen months that Aaron Rodgers has hit a hail Mary

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Speaker 1: could have been worse. He said the right things. He said.

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Speaker 1: There's no way something that happened seven days ago affected this.

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Speaker 1: I did have a single drop in practice all week.

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Speaker 1: It just I had a bad day. And I will

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Speaker 1: underrated UH defensive lineman in the league. Well, he's officially

427
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Speaker 1: an outside linebacker, but as far as pass rushers go,

428
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Speaker 1: I think he only had six sacks this year, so

429
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,360
Speaker 1: nobody's really gonna pay attention to him. But he does

430
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 1: reek havoc. He's in the backfield quite a bit, he's

431
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Speaker 1: good against the run, and he hurries a lot of

432
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks too. I think he's a guy that pro football

433
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:43,879
Speaker 1: focus will help you understand how good he is. I

434
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Speaker 1: think also he had to go through the process of

435
00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,439
Speaker 1: changing some perceptions about earlier in his career where he

436
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,359
Speaker 1: was not effective to this degree at all. Rick Smith

437
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,199
Speaker 1: signed him to a very low cost deal through I

438
00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 1: think like two thousand nineteen or something. So this this

439
00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,080
Speaker 1: group is gonna it's gonna be together for a while

440
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,439
Speaker 1: and they're pretty good in the secondary. Booye is gonna be,

441
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 1: you know, a free agent. But but then again, like

442
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 1: anyone could have beaten this this Raider's team just about

443
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Speaker 1: I think that's why that's why I was confused about

444
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:19,200
Speaker 1: as probably not it's probably not, but he started seven

445
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,200
Speaker 1: or eight games as a rookie and looked okay then,

446
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 1: and it's just like he's a he's an NFL quarterback

447
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,399
Speaker 1: that's been in this system a couple of years. It

448
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 1: would have been nice and because this game was not

449
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,920
Speaker 1: totally a blowout. I want being there. What was your

450
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Speaker 1: impression of the of the crowd at n ERG Stadium. Oh,

451
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 1: it was wild. They're They're a great crowd. I've always

452
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,880
Speaker 1: thought Houston has a really good fan base, especially considering

453
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,399
Speaker 1: their teams have always kind of been right in the middle.

454
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,720
Speaker 1: I mean, they were they were lucky. Were they stunned

455
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,359
Speaker 1: to see Osweiler not completely implode? I think they were

456
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,119
Speaker 1: the opposite. They were ready to turn against Osweiler. They

457
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Speaker 1: even started to after um after the third drive when

458
00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,680
Speaker 1: the Raiders, you know, made it ten seven and in

459
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,919
Speaker 1: the Hexans were playing it so conservative, but it was

460
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 1: ten nothing before before the Raiders had to do anything.

461
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 1: Their first two drives total twelve yards that scored ten points.

462
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,879
Speaker 1: They scored ten points on twelve yards. It's like it

463
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 1: was just a recipe for like, don't worry about it, Brocket,

464
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,119
Speaker 1: you don't have to do. But he deserves he does

465
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Speaker 1: deserve credit for not blowing up the game by being terrible,

466
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Speaker 1: which he's been doing all year. I think I can

467
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Speaker 1: count only one like brock pass where it was an

468
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 1: awful pass that should have been picked. He made some

469
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Speaker 1: He even checked out of a running play on the

470
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Speaker 1: touchdown pass. Uh, next Hopkins, which obviously is not something

471
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Speaker 1: you're supposed to get excited about for a thirty nine

472
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Speaker 1: million dollar quarterback or whatever. But the fact that he

473
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Speaker 1: was able to do it in the playoffs and here

474
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 1: they are now into the final eight teams. That's an

475
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Speaker 1: achievement for how bad the season had gone for him.

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Speaker 1: You know what is grotesque is that this wound up.

477
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Speaker 1: We thought that after this game, well, this was this

478
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Speaker 1: was a dud. It wound up being the closest of

479
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Speaker 1: all the games this weekend. Uh, is there any stats

480
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Speaker 1: out there for what what it was? While you guys

481
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 1: were disgusting, I did. I did a little compilation, went

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Speaker 1: through the numbers Pro Football Reference dot Com and we

483
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Speaker 1: do have. Well it's I'm not gonna go official with this.

484
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 1: I'm still were going to results tell us that these

485
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 1: are the most most lopsided wildcard around. You have to

486
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Speaker 1: go all the way back to to find four games

487
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Speaker 1: that were they were they weren't for that's thirty five

488
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Speaker 1: years ago. Yeah, that's crazy. So that's history. That's a

489
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Speaker 1: little bit of history that we've we've made this weekend.

490
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Speaker 1: The years ago Rock played well, Dan, did you know

491
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 1: that I'm going to have a new column starting this week?

492
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,679
Speaker 1: Get off my yard lawn came up like this title,

493
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Speaker 1: and it's gonna be a lot of why is this

494
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 1: still a thing type of stuff. Oh, Brox, Brox ready

495
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 1: for a comeback. Now he's gonna lead the Texans. He's back, baby,

496
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,159
Speaker 1: Well that's probably gonna be. It's gonna get grim next weekend.

497
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Speaker 1: Judging by the sports radio and then some of the

498
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Speaker 1: media people talking they talked to at the game, there

499
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 1: was a little too much credit going to brock Oswiler

500
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Speaker 1: for this one. It's like they had sixteen drives in

501
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 1: this game, I believe, which is an exceptionally high amount,

502
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 1: and they actually had fewer than three hundred yards, so

503
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 1: they had less than their normal yard is competent and no, no,

504
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 1: he was solid. And the drive right before halftime where

505
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien did an unbelievable job using his time outs.

506
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: We killed coaches for not using their time outs well

507
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Speaker 1: getting the ball back. And then as Wilder goes down

508
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,400
Speaker 1: the field in about four plays, two of them which

509
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 1: were beautiful throws to DeAndre Hopkins, he deserves credit. He

510
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 1: had no turnovers. You're right. He just kind of stayed

511
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Speaker 1: out of the way the rest of the time. They

512
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 1: didn't do that much other than competence is cool. Yeah,

513
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 1: when you were in San Diego last week, I think

514
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,919
Speaker 1: you got down and spoke with some of the family.

515
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 1: Margaret Sue was her name in the articles something like that,

516
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Speaker 1: did you did you get down with the unwashed masses

517
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 1: this time and talk with him? Sally? Uh, Sally Sue

518
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Speaker 1: Sally Suite. That was That was for an article. You

519
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Speaker 1: know this time have to sure, well, that's kind of

520
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 1: you know, who had a big on the way into

521
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 1: the game. If I don't have to speaking with football,

522
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 1: it was a joke. I actually did talk to a

523
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Speaker 1: couple of Raiders fans because I was curious about their field,

524
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 1: and there really was kind of a feeling of like, hey,

525
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? We're here with Connor Cook

526
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 1: that hopes is pretty low. It's sad, and you know,

527
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 1: speaking of the Raiders, h uh, you know, got I

528
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 1: gotta admission to make here. And it was something that

529
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,880
Speaker 1: really stunned me when I stumbled across it. I got

530
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 1: some more breaking news what bild Zeus sitting on his

531
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,959
Speaker 1: couch with his wife watching a screener of La La

532
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 1: Land just you know, kick him back. Good film deserves

533
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: the theater treatment. But I get it, you guys, I'm

534
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 1: gonna go see a musical in the theater. Let's come down.

535
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: I am. I'm gonna go see you. Whatever I cook

536
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: into Derek Carr's Twitter profile, this is where we're going.

537
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 1: Got blocked me. What Derek Carr, the star quarterback of

538
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 1: the Raiders, The Raiders who from August on I pounded

539
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 1: the backing. This guy from day one has a fun

540
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 1: team that I love and uh, you know my picks,

541
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: the team of at L never had a bad word

542
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 1: to say about Derek. He blocked me. He has a

543
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: wonderful brother who works here. He's a coworker of years.

544
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: I don't understand, never spoken before. Maybe things got misconstrued

545
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 1: about something he wrote along the way. Who knows, I

546
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: mean that could be my only guess unless you know Mary.

547
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 1: Maybe Dave Carr uh saw me and he saw me

548
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: as a threat as the most handsome man on campus

549
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: here and said, hey Derek, well now we're going somewhere

550
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 1: complete theories. I'm just saying theories and said, hey, hey, hey, Derek,

551
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 1: a little bro this guy is a threat ostracizing. This

552
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 1: is this is what happens in their quarterback room. Matt McGloin,

553
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: who did not hide his distaste for being benched by

554
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: the end of that game, just sitting there with his

555
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: hat on, hands on it. He's so annoyed. He he

556
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: has blocked almost the entire Bay Area media and most

557
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 1: of their big time fans has been blocked by Matt

558
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: mcloin over. Maybe he's maybe he's rubbing off on the kid, Derek,

559
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 1: and I don't know. I'm gonna I'm gonna continue to

560
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 1: look into and try to figure out what went wrong. Uh.

561
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll introduce himself to to David and we could

562
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 1: maybe he could be the guy, the go between two,

563
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,640
Speaker 1: broker some type of peace. Can we expect a long

564
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 1: form on this? You might need one. I got a

565
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 1: lot of digging to do first before I put pen

566
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: to paper. I gotta do some work, some journal work

567
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: to figure out why Derek Carr blocked not the first person.

568
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 1: Uh you know of note that's blocked you in the past,

569
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: So you there may be some elements to your reporting

570
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: or your character that are rubbing some the wrong way.

571
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: I don't find that right. You can't. You can't, and

572
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: this is not a shot at you. Mark, you can't

573
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: sit on the fence. You gotta be who you are.

574
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: And if people don't like you, then't like you. But

575
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: in Derek's case, I I never we never had an issue.

576
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: You're saying it's not a shot at him made it

577
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: feel more. I would never have taken it that way

578
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: until the way you phrased that. And now I'm going

579
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: to block you and it's gonna be done for you

580
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: and me. So we'll get to the bottom of that.

581
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: And finally a big, big game for J. J. Watt

582
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: of all people over all, right, actually closest without going

583
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: over because I had the video team actually cut this

584
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: and you could read about it on the end around

585
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 1: how many sideline cutaway shots that J. J. Watt during

586
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: Saturday's telecast without going over, Mark, I'm gonna go sevens

587
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: I was also gonna say seven, I'll go six uh

588
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: t cast, I'll go fourteen, said I was gonna say sixteen.

589
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, last new money I was made in

590
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: on the J. J. Watt Camps sixteen. You love J

591
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: J Watt, right, listen, I did love J. J. Watt

592
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: And then he got annoying about I don't know if

593
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: JJ came about ten four percord. That's ridiculous, and I

594
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: think ten were probably in the first half alone. I

595
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: felt for him a little bit. You saw him in

596
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: I saw him in the locker room. You know, he

597
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: was changing and he must have worked out or something,

598
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: and he's there. You're just kind of off to the side.

599
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: You're usually the leader of the team. Everyone's kind of

600
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: all happy, you're kind of quiet, and that part, that's

601
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: a tough decision. Derek Carr, who uh as everyone knows,

602
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,719
Speaker 1: blocked me and I don't know why. He was in

603
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 1: California watching a game with his family. J J wants

604
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: to be on the sideline with his teammates, but it

605
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: does you're not part of the battle. Interesting, wasn't there

606
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: a report that he could have played if they hadn't

607
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 1: put him on ir They, yeah, it was. The sideline

608
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 1: reporter said that he's coming along because he also not

609
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: only we get sixteen shots, we got a look Friday

610
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: or workout on the field and some shuttle runs, so

611
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: he even got some JJ works harder than everybody footage

612
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: and they said he was kind of coming along nicely. Physically,

613
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: but since he was moved to I R, he cannot

614
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: come back. I mean, in an alternate universe, J J.

615
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: Watt would have sacked Matt mcgloyd at some point this game.

616
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: Before we move on, I'm gonna give you a couple

617
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: of quick hot takes. I know we gotta move on.

618
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: It's about this game. It's about this game because I'm

619
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: not happy. But you know, Beckham's gonna get a lot

620
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: of grief. Uh, let's come back to us. Michael Crabtree

621
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: and Amari Cooper terrible game, especially Crabs happened a couple

622
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: of times. Big time drops. Help out your quarterback. David

623
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: Amerson also a little rough game. DeAndre Hopkins give him

624
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: a little love. Bad season, but had a great game.

625
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 1: Nice separation. And then Khalil Mack. What a guy to

626
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: watch in person. He was as great as clown he was.

627
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: He was the best football player in that game, and

628
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: I don't think it was that close. He was incredible.

629
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: Mark is a team that has bad quarterbacks all the time,

630
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: like I do. It's nothing more frustrating than a bad

631
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: quarterback making an actual good throw and then his receiver

632
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: drops it. And that's what was happening in that game

633
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: for Oakland. Well, I think you and I are no

634
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: strangers to that dynamic. All right, let's move on and

635
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: checking on the other. A f C playoff game that

636
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: was played at hines Field Dolphins showing blitz to your

637
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: age second at seven, Roethlisberger sees the blitz and he

638
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: throws the Brown. Defender tumbles at the fifty head. Brown

639
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: explodes up to the thirty thirty twenty. He waves his

640
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: right hand at the trailing defender and he soars into

641
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: the end zone for a touchdown, posing with a hand

642
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: on his hip, his second score of the day from

643
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: fifty to now sixty two yards and with six fifty

644
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: remaining of the first quarter, the Steelers have a two

645
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: touchdown advantage nothing. John Sadak Westwood won Sports. The Pittsburgh

646
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: Steelers entered wild card weekend is the biggest favorite of

647
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 1: the weekend. Then they went on the field and showed why,

648
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: overwhelming the Dolphins with touchdown drives in their first three

649
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: possessions in route to a thirty to twelve win at

650
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: hines Field. The Steelers will travel to Arrowhead next weekend

651
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: UH in the divisional playoffs and Mark Cesler we finally

652
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: got to see Big Ben, Antonio Brown and Leve Bell

653
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: on the field in a playoff game, and they did

654
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: not disappoint. Yeah, I mean two of those players broke records.

655
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: What were they? Well, Antonio Brown's one hundred and nineteen

656
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: yards in the first quarter alone were the most by

657
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: any player in the NFL since Minnesota's Gene Washington had

658
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 1: twenty yards against Cleveland in what year? Try someone, try guessing,

659
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: don't ask, don't get mad, no trivia? Al right, well,

660
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: a very special year, nineteen sixty. So that and then

661
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: you know, Levan Bell broke the team single single game

662
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: playoff record for rushing. My favorite part of this game.

663
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: And it felt over right away. I mean, and and

664
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: at some point you gotta give up trying to root

665
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: for these close games. Just enjoy the wreckage. And it

666
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: was an absolute destruction in Miami. Early on that one point,

667
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: they ran the ball on a drive with Levon Bell

668
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: ten times in a row, I believe it was, and

669
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: he went eighty three yards, went in for the touchdown.

670
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: They had to call it back. He got in on

671
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: the two plays later. Just utter dominance. For I thought

672
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: that Pittsburgh was just basically saying, we're like someone playing

673
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: a newborn toddler and Madden. We're just gonna run the

674
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: same play over and over and we're gonna run right

675
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: through you. In Miami could not stop it at all.

676
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: It was it was for me a portrait of how

677
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: powerful Pittsburgh could be if they can keep these guys healthy.

678
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: And there are some concerns with Big Ben coming out

679
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 1: of that game. But if they if he's fine and

680
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: they play at this level, I think they are really

681
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,439
Speaker 1: tough out. Ten straight runs for leve Bell was quite

682
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: a statement. Yes it was. It was zero respect for

683
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: that fans. Joseph led you think they would have more

684
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:32,320
Speaker 1: respect for the first ever human h newborn toddler. Okay,

685
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: baby expert, how many times did you say mark game

686
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: over every time Pittsburgh touched the ball in the first half.

687
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: But it's the only skill that I seem to have

688
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: covering football, because I do feel like the minute it happened,

689
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: I knew this game is over and you can try

690
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: to talk Miami. Let's in Miami was not a complete disaster.

691
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: They did a couple of things well, but Pittsburgh took

692
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 1: their foot off the gas at some point this game

693
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: to it was it was like a bear toying with

694
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 1: a baby rabbit, just you know, or a toddler rapping. Uh.

695
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: And if they needed to turn it on, if if

696
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: the Dolphins actually did scool, because they this game. And

697
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 1: we talked to Handsome Hank at some point today when

698
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: he came by to our area. You know, they had

699
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: a chance to pull within uh one touchdown late in

700
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,760
Speaker 1: the first half, uh strip sack fumble. They had another

701
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: chance in Steelers territory in the third quarter, uh, and

702
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: that led to a turnover as well. And Henry put it, well,

703
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: you know, I was saying, you know, they could have

704
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 1: made this a game they executed better. They killed themselves

705
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,760
Speaker 1: with mistakes, and he was like, yeah, but it always

706
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: felt like even if that would have happened, then the

707
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 1: steel was just what it hit the accelerator a little harder.

708
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: This just set it seemed like two mismatched teams and

709
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: it played out. Credit to James Harrison, who really was

710
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,280
Speaker 1: the best defensive player in this game on either side.

711
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: Is he working out with Tom Brady, I don't know,

712
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,240
Speaker 1: but he had more pressures than the entire Dolphins defense,

713
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: and he had more run stops than the entire Dolphins defense. Well, yeah,

714
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 1: in the preview of the game, I talked about well

715
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,720
Speaker 1: too in wake Er just gonna have to be crazy

716
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: for them to have a chance. But Pittsburgh had by

717
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 1: far the better pass rush. I mean, Dupree had a

718
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: big game, Harrison had a big game. Uh Timmins had

719
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 1: a couple of tackles, Mike Mitchell had a couple of quarterbacks.

720
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: It's like they do have it going. The Dolphins offensive

721
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 1: line is not great, so we'll see against in the City.

722
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: Dealers lead the NFL and Sex since Week eleven. They

723
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: have thirty since then, They're best. Is scary, you know,

724
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: it's crazy. It's big Ben. It's not really playing that well.

725
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: He's been okay, started this game twelve. But yeah, he's

726
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: making some But he didn't have to do that much.

727
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:37,959
Speaker 1: I hear you didn't get hit till the third quarter.

728
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: I mean a couple of interceptions. He had a couple

729
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 1: of near interceptions even down the stretch. I'm not saying

730
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 1: he's playing for a counterpoint. From the end of the

731
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 1: Ravens game to the start of this game, he went

732
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: six straight drives with a touchdown. Sure, but you're picking

733
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 1: you're picking drives. I'm saying he was good enough to

734
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: beat the Ravens in that game, but he was coming

735
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: back because he threw two interceptions, and he threw two

736
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: interceptions in this game and had another that could have

737
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: been picked up. All I'm saying is I don't think

738
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,439
Speaker 1: he's been at his very best this season. I think

739
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: this has probably been his worst season. And it's all relative.

740
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: He's a top ten quarterback in the last three or

741
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: four years. Away, Mike Tomlin, we could leave the lab here.

742
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin, you know, come back to us, buddy, you

743
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: can come in the lab. I'm not comfortable. I like

744
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 1: it up here in the kitchen area. We kind of

745
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: sit around the kitchen island and Mark and I we

746
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: we drink Greyhounds and and eat pretzels. It's fun. But

747
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin, come back to us. What has Big Ben

748
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: in this game? Late in the game, put Landry Jones

749
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: in and you kind of spitting the sky, and what happens.

750
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 1: Big Ben hurts his foot on the second to last

751
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 1: play of the game, shows up at the press conference

752
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: in a damn boot and West we know the Golden

753
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,439
Speaker 1: Globes are tonight, and if Big was nominated, he would

754
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 1: surely win the award. He said, I'll be out there

755
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: in Kansas City. But still if he jacked up his

756
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 1: foot in any tangible way, bad job by the coaching

757
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: staff leaving him out there. He just wants you to

758
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: know what he's gonna have to go through in order

759
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,919
Speaker 1: to become the hero next week. Dance points right, though,

760
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: why aren't they not just running? Was not a passing

761
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 1: Dangela Williams is one of the best backup running backs

762
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: in the game. Put him in there, Give him the ball.

763
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: He's got fresh leg that they're missing. The second half

764
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: of the season, le Bel had twenty nine carries. It's

765
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: a lot of carries, I agree. I mean tenor a row,

766
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 1: isn't it. It's a crazy workload in two thousand seventeen.

767
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's good or bad, but it just

768
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: opened your eyes. When he's getting the ball late in

769
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: the second half, I'm thinking to myself, like, what are

770
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,959
Speaker 1: you asking for here? What's to be achieved here? Landry Jones,

771
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: who is not big Ben, but he just showed when

772
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: he beat the Browns he could at least take snaps

773
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,280
Speaker 1: and hand it off. Let's be smarter here they escaped, probably,

774
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: but still it's the kind of thing that that kind

775
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 1: of a coaching decision will get more heat from people

776
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 1: than almost anything else. If you if you don't pull

777
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: Ben early and he gets hurt. I want to talk

778
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 1: one quickly about Matt More though, because he is Matt Moore,

779
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 1: we're not going to advertise him as something else. But

780
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: he took a tremendous shot in this game, helmet to

781
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: the jaw, a bunch, but one that looked like you

782
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: saw him just lying on the ground. I thought, he's

783
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 1: not coming back, and we're gonna get We got t J.

784
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 1: Yates for the eighteenth year in a row in the playoffs.

785
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 1: But one play later, More comes back on, leads a

786
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: team to a field goal, and his final line is

787
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 1: he was twenty nine of thirty six for nearly three

788
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: hundred yards. He Matt Moore was not. I don't know

789
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:25,919
Speaker 1: if Ryan Tanney in the first I mean the turnovers

790
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: with two of them, you know, blindside strip sacks that

791
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: that happens. He threw a bad pick, but Matt Moore

792
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,240
Speaker 1: was not necessarily much worse than I think Ryan Tannehill

793
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: would have been in this game. Yeah, I don't think. Uh,

794
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: and Greg, you were making that point during the preview

795
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: that it's a setback to have Tennant out of the lineup,

796
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 1: but that really the story was not about Matt More.

797
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: It was just the Dolphins defense, which just did not

798
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: show up in the first quarter of this game, and

799
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: the and whether maybe there's no team out there that

800
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 1: could slow down the Steelers when they're revving like that,

801
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: but certainly the Dolphins and the defense right and then

802
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: game script completely pulls JGI out of the exture and

803
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: he couldn't run well anyway today, but he had I

804
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 1: think it was one point twelve yards going into deep

805
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: into the second quarter. All the Matt More love, you

806
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: can concentrate on stopping j j I. When Matt Moore

807
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,919
Speaker 1: is the quarterback, you can sell out. But I think

808
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,720
Speaker 1: you can do that with with Tannehill. It's picking knits

809
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: because this team was too flawed. They were missing their

810
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: three best players in the secondary. Uh, they don't have

811
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: a very good offensive line. I think a guy is

812
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 1: a really good runner, one of the top ten runners

813
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 1: in the league. He had I think the third highest

814
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 1: average yards after contact of any running back in the

815
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: last ten years. He runs hard, so I think it's

816
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: the line when when they're not producing. I mean they

817
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: got no linebacker this team. The team had some issues. More.

818
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: I love I love me a little mat More. I

819
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: love the back with the Panthers back. And I think

820
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: it's a little Matt More. We don't a little. He's

821
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: a lot like Tony Romo. To me, he did a nice,

822
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: very nice job filling in for Tannehill. And I think

823
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: all those years on the bench, all that health accrued

824
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: by not taking those hits, probably all got wiped away.

825
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 1: I don't know how long you want to be in

826
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: the NFL when you take the hit that he took today.

827
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: But Greg, I do have to ask you before we

828
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: move on to the next game. Um, I gotta ask

829
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 1: you about your pants, and specifically you take down the

830
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 1: button in the fly and then you know, weigle down

831
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 1: them pants and then we check out under pants. Uh

832
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 1: how dry are they or how wet are they? Just

833
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: hideous image? Uh one totally dry. No, it's moving his

834
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: hands around, no issue. Two bed roun On on on periscope today.

835
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: No issue with moisture or any type of accident situation.

836
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: Ten your pants are soaked? Oh my goodness, how embarrassing

837
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: straight through the underpants of soaked. The pants is soaked.

838
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 1: It's a total mass situation. You gotta get in your

839
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,760
Speaker 1: car and get home. Because the Steelers are a throat.

840
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 1: That Steelers are a threat of the throne of these

841
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 1: waiting for a little song. They got a second bye

842
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 1: week coming up. The scale is three, but it was

843
00:41:55,960 --> 00:42:01,280
Speaker 1: three going into today. The Steelers don't I'm not convinced

844
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: the Steelers will win in Kansas City, so so I

845
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: don't I fully expect the Steelers to win this game. Yeah,

846
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 1: this was a great performance. The Steelers would scare me

847
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: more if they win in Kansas City, but I am

848
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: not assuming that at all. In fact, I kind of

849
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,959
Speaker 1: think that the Chiefs are the favorite in that game.

850
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 1: So today today didn't change my mind. The Patriots in

851
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: about as good a chance as they've been going into

852
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: the point. If you're to three, though, I just gotta

853
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: let you know, because you said you're the three. A

854
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,919
Speaker 1: little bit of dribble, yeah, a little bit of little

855
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 1: moisture from my brother. My brother and my father are

856
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: a factor into this, not because of dribbling, genetics or anything.

857
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: They're they're going to the they're going to the Super

858
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: Bowl this year, and you know that to me puts

859
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: a little more Tucson. They're coming out like that. I

860
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: like when Greg, you know, reaches out and families all

861
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: to I can't wait to see all the rods and

862
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: falls together. It's gonna be great. One last thing on

863
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, Greg, you called them a flawed team. I

864
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 1: expected them to be a team full of mercenaries and

865
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: quit halfway through the year. They showed a mental toughness

866
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: this year and got more than their talent would suggest.

867
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: Adam Gaze had a great first season as coach. I

868
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 1: think you can pat yourself on the back if you're

869
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: the doult Well. We saw handsome hand after the game

870
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: and he was he was in fine mood for what happened.

871
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: And I know my brother Eric is a Dolphins fan

872
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 1: forever and that team Eric with the Sea. Those guys

873
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 1: have been through utter hell as a fan base. If

874
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 1: you're under the age of sixty, you really have I

875
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: think you have problems on the roster, but you have

876
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 1: a great receiver group. You found a really good running back.

877
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: That's gonna be Those players love your coach, They love

878
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: look strong. There's things to build up. You're gonna get healthy.

879
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 1: I mean, Rashad Jones is an All Pro Byron Maxwell

880
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: was it was a really good cornerback for them. You know,

881
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: Abduel caduce, They're gonna get players back. There's some things

882
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 1: I think if you're a bad team, and you they

883
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 1: had a much better year than we would have ever

884
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: expected when they started one and four. But when you

885
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: make that transition, you come out of year one winner,

886
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: losing the playoffs, and you found a coach that the

887
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: whole organization buys into and believes in, everything can begin

888
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: to change at that point, right, And it's a good

889
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,439
Speaker 1: start from We'll see how plays up. Certainly, it's hard

890
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 1: to back it up though, you know what I mean,

891
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: Haley Brad Children's your boy. It's hard to I was

892
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 1: kind of hitting. I don't want to be negative about

893
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 1: the Dolphins because the fans are very sensitive, and I do.

894
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 1: I do respect what they were able to do this season. Uh,

895
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: And they are a distant number three in the dumpster

896
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 1: fire rankings of the a f C East Nonpatriots. Um,

897
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,439
Speaker 1: but we'll see what think in the next year. We'll see,

898
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: By the way, before we go into the next game,

899
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,879
Speaker 1: a little did you know somebody loves a dude, drop

900
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: it on. Except for West. The four wild card games

901
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: had a total margin of victory of seventies six points.

902
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 1: That nineteen point average makes it the most lopsided wild

903
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: Card weekends. It's the year nineteen our lord, you have

904
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: to go back three and a half decades to find,

905
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 1: you know, a week like this? Can Carter ushered out

906
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: Reagan ushered Dan was one years old. Back then, it

907
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 1: was just a toddler. I think maybe that is three

908
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: and a half decades a little did you know thirty

909
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 1: five years? That's why people listen to this show. Let's

910
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: move on to the Saturday evening affair. At the clink,

911
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: fourth down and goal, the turn, the play, face, the look,

912
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: the dump over the top, reaching back because he makes

913
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: a catch. Flag is down, but Paul Richardson makes a

914
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 1: catch for a touchdown. Seahawks. Holy mackro here a man

915
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: in his face want a catch, one hand reaching around

916
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 1: the defender Wilson and Paul Richardson interfered with and makes

917
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: the catch with one hand and the Seahawks go on

918
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 1: top six nothing. Steve ribal k i r oh Paul

919
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: Richardson's one ended catch one in a day of circus

920
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 1: receptions for the wide out put the Seahawks ahead and

921
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 1: lead they would never relinquish in a twenty six win

922
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: six win over the Lions, who in their season with

923
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 1: four consecutive losses after nine in four start uh my

924
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 1: own uh. The Seahawks advanced to face the Falcons at

925
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: the Georgia Dome next week. Chris Westling Uh. The Seahawks

926
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: entered this game with big question marks, but this game

927
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 1: featured some familiar hallmarks of past Seahawks playoff runs. Yeah,

928
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: I'm not ready to say the Seahawks are back just

929
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: because they beat a fundamentally mediocre Lions team and pretty

930
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,919
Speaker 1: convincingly Thomas Rawls. I had I suspected that they would

931
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: get in the running game back on track because the

932
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 1: town is there when their offensive line is not playing

933
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: against the front that had just out talented them like

934
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: the Cardinals do and the Rams do. But this is

935
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: a matchup big based Seahawks team. To me, when their

936
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: offensive line is credible against the defense, they can move

937
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: the ball. When they get overwhelmed it down the entire offense. Well,

938
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: doesn't that bode well if you were a Seahawks optimist,

939
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 1: Because they're not exactly playing you know, the two thousand

940
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:12,800
Speaker 1: Ravens degree in Atlanta or frankly, when they play either

941
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: of the two teams, especially Dallas, I guess not even

942
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 1: you know. This isn't a great NFC of defense. Is

943
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 1: their pass rushes. It absolutely bodes well for Seahawks offense.

944
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 1: But can their defense stop Matt Ryan when they've been

945
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: leaving the middle of the field open for a while,

946
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think that's a much different test

947
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: than the Lions offense of the past month. Well, and

948
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 1: we also, the three of us, excluding Greg who was

949
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: on the road, watched this uh together after West and

950
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: I watched the early game, so some beers have been had.

951
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,800
Speaker 1: I mean we we mostly watched it, but I reviewed

952
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 1: it again this morning, and in the professional well, I

953
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,720
Speaker 1: was gonna say, yeah, at some point of the hazy

954
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: was some of it hazy? Yeah? Some of it looked up.

955
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 1: Paul Richardson was making a diving right. I don't know

956
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 1: what was going on, right, but it was much closer

957
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,399
Speaker 1: I thought going And the score looks like to be honest,

958
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that Detroit's, you know, on any level

959
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 1: with Seattle, but this was Matthew Stafford had multiple chances

960
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: had he gone down the field and scored a touchdown

961
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 1: with the Lions to tie the game at various points.

962
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: I think it hurts Lions fans because their mistakes. They

963
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: lost it for the first three quarters. As much as

964
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: the Seahawks won it, as great as Thomas Rawls was,

965
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: It's like they had three or four drives where literally

966
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: it was a third down drop where the guy was

967
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 1: behind the sticks. I mean it was that's a drive killer.

968
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 1: There was five or six drops total in the game.

969
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 1: There was some crazy penalties and Kuan Bold And loses

970
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:39,919
Speaker 1: his head and kills him with a couple of penalties. Yeah,

971
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: I mean there was. There was a pass where Stafford

972
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,479
Speaker 1: through a bullet to two basically two Lions wide outs

973
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 1: and no one caught the ball. I can't think of

974
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 1: a Lions game this season where Stafford was out of

975
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: sync to this degree with his receivers. There was a

976
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 1: personal foul on Helodi Nada that it was gonna be

977
00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:00,080
Speaker 1: third and eight for the Seahawks ten to six in

978
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 1: the fourth cour Entery in the fourth quarter is not

979
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: early in the game, and he gets that personal foul

980
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 1: and they wind up scoring the touchdown. This is why

981
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 1: it sucks to be Alliance fan. And this is why

982
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 1: they had a very high ranking and our pain rankings

983
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 1: and all that, because you know, they bear. They rarely

984
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 1: get into the playoffs, and they got robbed in the

985
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 1: in the Dallas Cowboys game a couple of years ago,

986
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,760
Speaker 1: and that's one way to get your heart ripped out. Um,

987
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: and you finally get that back to the playoffs this

988
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 1: year and your team basically doesn't show up. And I

989
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 1: think they you know, they made some stops on defense,

990
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 1: but like as you were saying, Greg, so many drops.

991
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: I mean, just to play small and to play one

992
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: of your sloppiest games, that's just that. That's a level

993
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: of frustration as a fan where you just you just

994
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 1: start to question, why don't you even invest myself when

995
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 1: these guys are gonna come up this small, when the

996
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 1: stage is this big, or when your offense is centered

997
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: around Zack center and I Dack centers centered right. Well,

998
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 1: I mean in the game yesterday, it was seemed like

999
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 1: they all they could do was lean on him. There

1000
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: was just no players were not getting it done any level.

1001
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 1: Zenter as funny Patra, you know, and I wish we

1002
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:08,280
Speaker 1: would have reached out to Kevin about this game, but um,

1003
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:14,280
Speaker 1: in fact, maybe we could try. Wow, we can try.

1004
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 1: Maybe we could shoot a text and see if he's

1005
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: available to talk. But Zack Uh Patra predicted that Zenter

1006
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: would run for thirty eight yards Uh in this game

1007
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: he finished a thirty four. I mean, because that's as

1008
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,479
Speaker 1: west we were talking about at the at the watering Hole.

1009
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 1: It's kind of whose accenter is. So anybody that was

1010
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 1: starting to talk themselves into Center as being like this

1011
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: game changer, he is who he is and they needed

1012
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: the offense to come from other places. Well, I think

1013
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,320
Speaker 1: when you when you take a look at this Lions

1014
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 1: team and how do you fixed him? Next year, you're

1015
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 1: gonna get a mirror Abdula and theoretic back. And I

1016
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: think that's the most important way to fix their offense

1017
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:51,919
Speaker 1: is by being healthy in that backfield. Get someone else

1018
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,879
Speaker 1: though that's between the tackles too. I think I think, yeah,

1019
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 1: you need a power back. Doesn't have to be an

1020
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: every down guy, but a power back to throw in there.

1021
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 1: And then defensively, you just need playmakers. I don't think

1022
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: they have enough talent on defense. I I I feel

1023
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 1: bad for Lions fans, because it was like a season

1024
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: where they kept waiting for it to cave in on them,

1025
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 1: and then it did. I mean they and then the

1026
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 1: at the very moment where everyone in this room started

1027
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: to be like, oh wow, I guess the Lions really

1028
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 1: do have something. That's the moment when they beat the Saints, right,

1029
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: and that's the moment where it did caven and you

1030
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: leave the season kind of feeling like, well, what was

1031
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,320
Speaker 1: the point of all that? We just got waxed three

1032
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: straight weeks, I think by a total of about sixty points.

1033
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 1: So in the end, they didn't feel like they were

1034
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: a competitive team at all. Well, and you're keeping your

1035
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 1: your coaching staff around, and I would imagine plenty of

1036
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: Lions fans are, you know, split on how they feel

1037
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: about Jim Caldwell and the staff in general. You know,

1038
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 1: they gotta go out and get it bad, but you know,

1039
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: the couter shine is off. I'll tell you that I

1040
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:04,359
Speaker 1: think he did. I wasn't this Matthew Stafford's best season? Yeah?

1041
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 1: I think he did a good I'm just saying if

1042
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: you look at what happened and during this this meltdown

1043
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: down the stretch, the offense became a major problem area

1044
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: man rejects Cooter. Wow, yeah, in a big spot. I uh,

1045
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 1: you gotta give this. He's gonna block you next on Twitter.

1046
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 1: But you gotta give the Seahawks defense some credit. I mean,

1047
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 1: the guys that you kind of wanted to show up

1048
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: in this game showed up. I mean it's the same

1049
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 1: same guys. It's a Avril, it's Clark, it's Bennett, it's Wagner.

1050
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 1: It's right. I mean they all had big games, they

1051
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 1: all played well. They all made you think like, okay,

1052
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 1: maybe we can do this again. Yes, Stafford avoided Richard

1053
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 1: Sherman as teams were, you know, a couple of years back.

1054
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 1: I I completely agree. I think the Atlanta Seattle matchup

1055
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 1: will be fascinating. But I think the question with anyone

1056
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 1: dealing with Atlanta is how do you keep up if

1057
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 1: they're playing the way if if they get off to

1058
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: the kind of start the typically well, you'd love to

1059
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 1: run the ball like they did. They had the ball

1060
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: for thirties six thirty seven. They had some holes. I mean,

1061
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:03,439
Speaker 1: it wasn't just rawls running that like easy. They go ahead. Well,

1062
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: if you want to check in with Kevin Patrick, I

1063
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,959
Speaker 1: can hold this thought. No, okay, share the thought. Let's

1064
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 1: take the Raiders out of the picture because they were

1065
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: missing their MVP candidate a quarterback. Out of the three

1066
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: other teams that lost, the Giants, Dolphins, and Lions, who

1067
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 1: do you like best going into two thousand seventeen. Who

1068
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 1: has a better chance of going further in the playoffs

1069
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 1: next year? I'd give the Giants a chance because I

1070
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,919
Speaker 1: because of the defense. Even though ELI is up there,

1071
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,280
Speaker 1: it's ultimately a team that had a lot of players

1072
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,720
Speaker 1: in their prime, and I think they got more players

1073
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 1: than the Lions do. I think the Giants do have

1074
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 1: a championship level defense, and and they got out of

1075
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 1: Beckham and Sterling Shepherd. What if what if eli second

1076
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: half wasn't like the beginning of the end? What if

1077
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 1: it was just a tired arm and what what if

1078
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 1: they actually find somebody in the backfield that can run

1079
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: the ball. And I'm not talking about Paul Perkins and

1080
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,479
Speaker 1: Rashad Jennings. It was frustrated that was not we didn't

1081
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 1: get to that, but they did not run the ball

1082
00:53:57,840 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: at all. I would say the Giants as well the

1083
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 1: Dolph and their team that had a nice season, but

1084
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,240
Speaker 1: they're just like the Jets and Bills were all waiting

1085
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 1: out Tom Brady. So they're in a tough spot to

1086
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 1: be a real contender still. And yeah, the lines, I

1087
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,919
Speaker 1: don't know, man. I think there's they are. Their record

1088
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 1: is not. I think there's hope in Miami. And if

1089
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: you're in if you're Detroit, you're also in a great

1090
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: you know division as well. So let's try this. Let's

1091
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:21,959
Speaker 1: try this. Patrick didn't get back to me on text.

1092
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: I just texted him in real time cold call the game.

1093
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: But why don't we cold call? Yeah, and if he

1094
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 1: picks up, uh and he talks to us, we talked

1095
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 1: to him. If we get the voicemail, maybe we could leave,

1096
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 1: you know, condolence message to him like that. But another

1097
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:39,760
Speaker 1: last season, I think Patrick's approaching thirty now, Uh, he's starting,

1098
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 1: he's in that range at and he's engaged now I

1099
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 1: believe or is he just in love? I think it's

1100
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 1: veering towards that way. I think he's probably the latter,

1101
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: is true. Wait, why am I even attempting to comment?

1102
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 1: I have no idea. Okay, you can put on we

1103
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 1: could listen in on this if yeah, right, I mean

1104
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: he could get angry to This guy is known to

1105
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 1: get a little tired up. Mark, if we get the

1106
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 1: voice you started up, Let's just be respectful. He likes

1107
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 1: you the most. Yeah, a kinship that unconfirmed. What are

1108
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:28,879
Speaker 1: what he's doing? What is it in Chicago? He's working out,

1109
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 1: He's definitely lifting his body is awesome. A lot of

1110
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 1: rings here. You reached the voicemail of Kevin Patra. Please

1111
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 1: leave a message. I'll get back to as soon as

1112
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 1: I can. Thank you very much. At the tone, please

1113
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 1: record your voice. When you are finished recording, you may

1114
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 1: hang or press pound for more options. Hey Kevin, Mark

1115
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 1: Sessler here from well from work. Um, I just wanted

1116
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: to say that, uh, you know, tough, tough loss. And

1117
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: I don't like people that, you know, right after a

1118
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: game they say, hey that that sucked for you. I mean,

1119
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 1: I kind of let it marinate for a day, but

1120
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:02,839
Speaker 1: uh feel for you as a team. As a guy

1121
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 1: who follows a really crappy team. UM, I know that

1122
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 1: it's not easy being Alliance fan either. We've got a

1123
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 1: few other people here that want to wish you well. Yeah, Hey, keV,

1124
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 1: this is uh Dan the old Juicer. Hey, hanging there, man.

1125
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:17,320
Speaker 1: You know I know what it's like two as a

1126
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 1: Jets fan, and you deserve better than this. But you're

1127
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 1: gonna bounce back from this, and you could use this

1128
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:27,439
Speaker 1: as hate fuel to continue to build that incredible, amazing body. Uh.

1129
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,320
Speaker 1: And it's summer season. Now you're gonna start cutting cutting

1130
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 1: weight and starting to get that that that slender uh

1131
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 1: muscular build. Time to get ripped. I'm very excited about that.

1132
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 1: So things are looking up in regardless of the lines,

1133
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 1: and that body's helping you. You know, you got a

1134
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 1: lady in your life. Things are turning up. This thing

1135
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 1: might cut us off. How long did voicemail? Hey Kevin,

1136
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 1: this is Chris Wesley and I know you're in the

1137
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 1: gym right now because someone somewhere out there is gaining

1138
00:56:54,400 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 1: on you. Said, do you have anything to say? Uh? Sorry? Sorry? Sorry? Alright,

1139
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 1: see you later, Kevin, Love you buddy. That U. I

1140
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 1: don't think I can't remember the last time I've actually

1141
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:13,399
Speaker 1: left a message on someone's voicemail, right, but it gave

1142
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: me the kind of anxiety slash amazing feeling that when

1143
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: you're like when you're young and you're calling a girl

1144
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 1: and then you have to leave a message. I thought,

1145
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: God I cannot f this up. Well, you always had

1146
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 1: the option of hitting three, which is a race and

1147
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 1: re record. I don't think I had that verse universal

1148
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 1: that worked. I didn't even know that that option existed.

1149
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 1: You one was send. I think two might have been

1150
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 1: it's been so long, race and rerecord. I wouldn't trust it.

1151
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 1: I'd be like, she's hearing me give seven or eight

1152
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 1: versions of a message and it's over. I'll never say

1153
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 1: because that can backfire, and you know, it's just it's

1154
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 1: a sign of a lack of confidence. I would love

1155
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 1: to say that I would send every voicemail to a

1156
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 1: woman and be like, yeah, nail that she's gonna like

1157
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 1: this dude. But sometimes I did the race and rerecord confessions,

1158
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 1: breaking news. Sometimes it did the erase him the record.

1159
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 1: I'm not perfect, perfect, I'm not right. But is that

1160
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: your problem, Derek Carr, I'm not perfect. I'm taking this Well,

1161
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 1: that's really stuck in your craw. He's one of the

1162
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 1: most famous players as it seems to be a really like,

1163
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 1: kind hearted guy. I I don't the block thing for

1164
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: him is kind of throws me off. Well, that that

1165
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 1: might be why it's hitting Dan so hard, because he's

1166
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 1: clearly such a nice, good guy that it's making Dan

1167
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: question himself if Derek Carcy is something wrong in me?

1168
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 1: What have I done? But also here's the thing supported

1169
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 1: him his team of Two weeks ago, I wrote a

1170
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 1: column about blasting the football gods are taking him out

1171
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 1: of the picture. Maybe that did it. Maybe I just

1172
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 1: maybe something got on his radar. And this is where

1173
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 1: maybe I gotta get David involved. We gotta get you

1174
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 1: guys together for a little com fab. Okay, anything else, guys,

1175
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 1: that's that way to go. Paul Richardson, Yeah, way to go.

1176
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 1: The only person ever to have three. Like when I

1177
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 1: when I heard the Twitter, I saw Twitter, and then

1178
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 1: I looked at the box score. I was expecting him

1179
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 1: to have this monster game. Three three catches for whatever

1180
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 1: it was forty seven yards and all three were absolutely ridiculous,

1181
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 1: visually stunning. Tyler Lockett. Yeah, Paul Richardson, that's good drafting.

1182
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 1: The first one shouldn't count. He had a face mask,

1183
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 1: and the referee is actually told H told who they

1184
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 1: play again? The Lions. The Lions, thank you. I told

1185
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 1: Jim Caldwell that it should not have counted because of

1186
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 1: a face mask. Whatever you can take a catch like that,

1187
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 1: you can put. It's football, all right, that's it. Um.

1188
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 1: We will be back on Tuesday with another episode of

1189
00:59:57,120 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 1: the Round the NFL podcast as we spin forward seven

1190
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 1: games remaining in the season. This will all all leading

1191
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 1: to Houston less than a month from now or is

1192
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 1: it exactly a month now? It's so yes, We'll be

1193
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 1: back Tuesday, so make sure you check out that show

1194
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 1: until then. This is Dan Hanss signing off four Quiet Storm.

1195
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 1: Good tidbit by the way mark about the point deferential

1196
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 1: in these games. Yeah, biggest since one and now man

1197
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 1: years ago, the Boss and new body behind the glass

1198
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 1: Till Tuesday.