1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: Live from the Bloomberg Interacted Berger's Studios. This is Bloomberg 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: day Break for Thursday, March twenty third. Coming up today, 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:13,239 Speaker 1: Calm returns to markets following yesterday's FED decision. Fancier J. 4 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 1: Powell says more rate hikes are in store if inflation persists, 5 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: but the bond market has a different take, predicting rate 6 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 1: cuts instead. And now it's the Bank of England's turn 7 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 1: to make a policy decision. A grand jury in New 8 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: York City could hear from one more witness today at 9 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: Donald Trump's case, plus a standoff at the Manhattan High Runs. 10 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: I'm Michael barn More ahead, I'm John's fish awon sports. 11 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 1: That Nicks lost in Miami wide receiver moves made by 12 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: the Jets of the NCAA tournament resumes tonight at Big Garden. 13 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: Thanks all, straight ahead on Bloomberg day Break, The business 14 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 1: news you need disturn your day, and just one fifteen 15 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: minute podcast each pointing on Apple's Spotify. The Bloomberg Business 16 00:00:54,720 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: Appen everywhere you get your podcasts. Good morning, I'm Nathan 17 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: Hagar and I'm kieron Moscow. Here are the stories we're 18 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: following today. The lift in futures. This morning comes on 19 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: the heels of an equity sell off. Stocks sank yesterday 20 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: after a ninth straight rate hike from the Federal Reserve 21 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,839 Speaker 1: and signals from Chair J Powell that more could be coming. 22 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: We need to raise rates higher. We will, I think 23 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: for now, though we as I've mentioned, we see the 24 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: likelihood of credit tightening. We know that that can have 25 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: a you know, an effect on the macroeconomy, on demand, 26 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: on labor market, on inflation, and we're we're going to 27 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: be watching to see what that is. Well. Critics are 28 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: weighing in on those remarks from J. Pale Farmer FED 29 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: Vice chair Alan Blinder says he should have taken a 30 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: different approach. I think very much that the right decision 31 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: today would have been a pause with words saying we're 32 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: waiting to see if the dust clears and how it clears, 33 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: and we may be going up higher depending if you know, 34 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: if this crisis doesn't look too serious. Alan blinders can 35 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: daring the Fed could be underestimating the extent of the 36 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: current banking crisis. Well, Nathan, the markets are not buying J. 37 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,679 Speaker 1: Powell's message about more rate hikes. In fact, they're pricing 38 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: in rate cuts instead, and we get that storway from 39 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's John Tucker, who joins US Live. John, Good morning, 40 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: my Karen. Treasury's rallied yesterday after the Fed decision, and 41 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: traders have ramped up best the central Bank is soon 42 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: going to reverse course and start cutting rates. They seem 43 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: convinced the Fed will make in about face, probably in September. 44 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: The market view contrasts with the FED guidance, which calls 45 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: for at least one more hike at Cher. Powell did 46 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: push back on that market center and saying rate cuts 47 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: are not our base case. Investors think tighter Fed policy 48 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: is leading to cracks in the economy will likely tip 49 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: the United States into recession. Live in New York. I'm 50 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: John Tucker, Bloomberg Daybreak, John. Thanks. The Swiss National Bank 51 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: is also on the move this morning. Turmoil at Credit 52 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: Suiss is not stopping that central bank from tightening policy. 53 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: The SNB's hiked rates by fifty basis points, taking its 54 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: policy rate to one and a half percent. Now, Nathan, 55 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: it's the Bank of England's turn. We get a rate 56 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: decision across the pond at eight am Eastern today and 57 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's Lizzie Burden is at the BOE and has a preview. 58 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: There had been economists wondering at the start of the 59 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: week whether all the recent banking stress meant that financial 60 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: conditions have titan so much that the leg work has 61 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: been done for the Bank of England, that another hike 62 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: would be deflationary, or that it would undermine the already 63 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,519 Speaker 1: weak economy. But now the consensus is for a quarter 64 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 1: point hike, which would take rates to four point two 65 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: five percent, to be the highest level since two thousand 66 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: and eight, and Bloomberg's Lizzie Burden points out the pound 67 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: is trading near a two month high ahead of the 68 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: BOE decision. Now we continue Karen to follow the latest 69 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: developments on the banking crisis and the response from Washington. 70 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen says the US is not considering 71 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: blanket deposit insurance without first working with Congress. It's important 72 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: to be clear shareholders and deadholders of the field banks 73 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: are not being protected by the government, and no losses 74 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: from the resolution of these banks are being borne by 75 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: the taxpayer. Deposit protection is provided by the Deposit Insurance Fund, 76 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: which is funded by fees on insured banks. My Treasury 77 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 1: Secretary Yellen says executives responsible for bank collapses should not 78 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 1: be profiting when stockholders and investors take losses. Well, Jane 79 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: Fraser is weighing in on the banking turmoil. Nathan, the 80 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: CEO of City Group, says the ability to move millions 81 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: of dollars, which just a few clicks, is a sea 82 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: change moment for the risk of bank runs. There were 83 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: a couple of tweets and then this thing went down 84 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: much faster than as appened in history, and greatly. I 85 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 1: think the regulators did a good job in responding very quickly, 86 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 1: because normally have longer to respond to this. City Group 87 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: CEO Jane Fraser made the comments in an interview at 88 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: David Rubinstein. Stay tuned for more of that conversation coming 89 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: up surely on Bloomberg Daybreak, and we continue to watch 90 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 1: First Republic Bank this morning. Karen. The shares are up 91 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,359 Speaker 1: three point six percent, but it's not all good news 92 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: for the bank, and we get more live from Bloomberg. 93 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: Steve Rappaport, Steve, Good morning, Nathan and Karen. The San 94 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: Francisco lender was hit with a ratings down grade for 95 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: the second time in less than a week, Fitch lowered 96 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: First Republic's long term issuer default rating from B to 97 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 1: double B. The bank received the cash infusion of thirty 98 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 1: billion dollars from a group of major firms. Fitch analysts 99 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 1: view the funding as the primary ratings constraint. Meanwhile, First Republic, 100 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 1: in a regulatory filing, says top Brass agreed to forego 101 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: bonuses and other compensation this year. Live in New York, 102 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: I'm Steve Rappaport, Bloomberg Daybreak. All right, Steve, Thanks, And 103 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: in politics today, TikTok is front and center on Capitol Hail. 104 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: The company CEO tries to convince the lawmakers today that 105 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: China has no influence over the apps data. Amy Morris 106 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: has details from our Bloomberg ninety nine one newsroom in 107 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: Washington show Two plans to tell Congress the TikTok app 108 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: does more to protect young users than other social media rivals. 109 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: Two will appear before the House Energy and Commerce Committee, 110 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 1: where he will be grilled on teen's safety and the 111 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: app's impact on mental health, but he'll also face questions 112 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 1: about national security. In prepared comments reviewed by Bloomberg News, 113 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: too will tell lawmakers they would never share information demanded 114 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 1: by the Communist Party as TikTok tries to convince lawmakers 115 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: the companies should be allowed to continue operating in the US. 116 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: In Washington, I'm may Me Maris Bloomberg. Daybreak. It's forty 117 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: eight degrees in New York's apatchee fog this morning, but 118 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: it's gonna be cloudy, breezy, with some passing showers this afternoon, 119 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: heading to the low sixties. Showers end this evening. We'll 120 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: get down to the upper forties. Second look at some 121 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 1: of the other stories making news in New York and 122 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: around the world with Bloomberg's Michael Bark. Good morning, Mike, Call, 123 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: Good morning Nathan. The grand jury in the Manhattan DA's 124 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: probe into Donald Trump was delayed, and we'll reconvene later today. 125 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: Trump is accused of paying hush money in twenty sixteen 126 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,559 Speaker 1: to an adult film star. Jurors were informed at least 127 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: one additional witness may be called to testify before they 128 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: decide whether to indict the former president. Outside the courthouse 129 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: in Lower Manhattan, woman supports Trump. Look, he's not perfect 130 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 1: or any of us perfect, but he loves our country 131 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: and they put him through so much and He's still 132 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: gonna do it again and we're gonna win. Meanwhile, this 133 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: man says he wants to see a mug shot of him. Yes, 134 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know about this crime, but multiple 135 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: other crimes. I mean January sixth alone, he should be 136 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: in prison. New York is still bracing for protests. The 137 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: former president also lost a court battle to keep legal 138 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: details secret from the Justice Department about his alleged mishandling 139 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: of classified information after he left the White House. It 140 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: appears to clear the way for Special Consul Jack Smith 141 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: to force one of Trump's private lawyers to testify before 142 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: a grand jury. Approval of President Joe Biden has dipped, 143 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: nearing the lowest point of his presidency. According to the 144 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: Associated Press North Pole, the president notched an approval rating 145 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: of just thirty eight percent. The U asked questions China's 146 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: message to Russia about how to end the war in 147 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: Ukraine Bloomberg's ad Baxter report. The US is basing that 148 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: on the fact that the day after the Shee Putin's summit, 149 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: Russia launched a barrage of missiles. NFC spokesman John Kirby, 150 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: If China really wants to be helpful in that regard, 151 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: they should be urging President Putin to get out of Ukraine. 152 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: Here we are the day after, and mister Putin is 153 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: launching more drones and missiles into Ukraine. So I don't 154 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: know President she delivered that message, but if he did, 155 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: mister Putin ignored it. Kirby says. The other possibility as 156 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: if Vladimir Putin doesn't support China's peace plan. In San Francisco, 157 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 1: I'm at Baxter Bloomberg day Break, A dramatic standoff played 158 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: out thirty floors above a Manhattan street yesterday. It all 159 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: began when the FBI tried to execute an arrest warrant 160 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: at a luxury high rise just steps away from Carnegie Hall. 161 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: The man barricaded himself inside the apartment and then was 162 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: purged on the ledge of the window, threatening to jump. 163 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: An NYPD officer finally repelled down from the floor above 164 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: and was able to get the suspect inside. Global News 165 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 1: twenty four hours a day, powered by more than twenty 166 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: seven hundred journalists and analysts in over one hundred twenty countries. 167 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: I'm Michael bar This is Bloomberg, Nathan. Thanks Michael of 168 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 1: the Bloomberg Sports Update brought you by Trice State. Out 169 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: of you, here's John Stashower all right. Nathan Nicks had 170 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: beaten the Heat twice this season, both nail biting games 171 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: not decided until the end. This time in Miami, Knicks 172 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 1: fell short at one twenty seven to one twenty. Jimmy 173 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: Butler thirty seven points for the Heat. RJ. Barrett had 174 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: twenty six for the Knicks. Jalen Brunson twenty five, but 175 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: Julius Randall went from fifty seven points the other night 176 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: down to fifteen. Same two teams will play next week 177 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: at the Garden. Nicks are trying to hold on to 178 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: fifth place in the East. They lead Miami and Brooklyn 179 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: by two games. The Nets play tonight at Cleveland at 180 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: the Garden. It's the start of the NCAA Tournament Sweet 181 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: sixteen and up first it's Kansas State against Michigan State, 182 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: and both teams have top scorers who are New York natives. 183 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 1: Case States Marquisnoles from Harlem. The Spartans Tyson Walker is 184 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: from Long Island. As coach is tom Izzo. He does 185 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 1: have that that swagger about him, you know, his is 186 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: a little more I think sometimes the New York swagger 187 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 1: is a very cocky swagger, and sometimes that's good. You 188 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: got to be He's kind of had the happy medium, 189 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: you know, he's got enough cockiness to be confident, and 190 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: yet he's an unbelievable Kidizzo in his twenty eight season 191 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,719 Speaker 1: in Michigan State the Kansas State coach Jerome Tanks in 192 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: his first season. Later, it's Tennessee versus Florida Atlantic. Also 193 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: a doubleheader in Vegas, Yukon against Arkansas, UCLA meets Gonzaga. 194 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: That Jets drafted wide receiver Elijah More in the second 195 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: round two years ago. Good rookie season, not as good 196 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: this past year. Midway through, he demanded the trade. The 197 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: Jets traded More to Cleveland. They got a second round 198 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: draft pick back, and the Jets signed a free agent 199 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: white out Mcole Hardman spent the last four seasons of 200 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: Kansas City, went two Super Bowls. John stash Allard Bloomberg 201 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 1: Sports Live from coast to coast, from New York to 202 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: San Francisco, Boston to Washington, DC, nationwide on Sirius Exam, 203 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: the Bloomberg Business app, and Bloomberg dot Com. This is 204 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Daybreak. Good morning. I'm Nathan Hagard in Jay the 205 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 1: Markets Trust. Those are the words from City Group CEO 206 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: Jane Frasier, who says she supports Chairman Powell's efforts to 207 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: fight inflation and appreciates how clearly he has stated that 208 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: crushing inflation is the Fed's number one goal. Jane Fraser 209 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: sat down with Bloomberg's David Rubinstein and an event at 210 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: the Economic Club in Washington. They discussed the FED and 211 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: the recent string of bank failures and what it all 212 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: means for the US economy. Here is part of that conversation. Now, 213 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 1: the feds job number one is fighting inflation, and we 214 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: want the FED to be very dependable in fighting inflation, 215 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: and that should be their most important priority. There are 216 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: ramifications of it, but there are certain banks which say 217 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: are an isolated few that have really been impacted very negatively, 218 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: that didn't necessarily manage their balance sheets that well, and 219 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 1: think that was the right decision to protect only the 220 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: depositors and say goodbye to the shareholders and goodbye to 221 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: the creditors. I think it's very important to protect the 222 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: depositors right now. The banking system everywhere around the world 223 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: depends on confidence and that confidence has to be in 224 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 1: the safety and security of deposits. So in terms of 225 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: the most important job here they did the most important job, 226 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: which is making sure the depositors will whole. So in 227 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: the old days and there were bank runs, used to 228 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: see people lined up outside the street and get their 229 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: money out. Now you're just on your iPhone or whatever 230 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:34,719 Speaker 1: phone you have, you can take your money out. So 231 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: money moves so quickly was at a factor as well. 232 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: And having the money get out of a bank so 233 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: quickly on the weight line, you can just do it 234 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: over it. It's a complete game changer from what we've 235 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: seen before. David, you're absolutely right. There were a couple 236 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: of tweets and then this thing went down much faster 237 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: than as a and in history, and greatly. I think 238 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: the regulators did a good job in responding very quickly, 239 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 1: because normally you have longer to respond to this, so 240 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 1: they acted with quite a lot of speak even how 241 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: quickly this happened. So some people say you have a 242 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: moral hazard when you protect people. So by protecting all 243 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: the depositors in Silicon Valley Bank, the implication was that 244 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: if somebody else has a problem, will protect them, and 245 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: so forth, and so the two hundred and fifty thousand 246 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: dollars limit is meaningless more or less? Or do you 247 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: think the federals are and the Secondary Treasurer saying we're 248 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: not going to protect every depositor, or we're going to 249 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: protect certain depositors. I don't think they need to go 250 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 1: out right now, because the banking system is pretty sound, 251 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: and we're talking about a few banks. We had it 252 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: from the gym and pal. This is not something that 253 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: is spread across the entire banking system. Isn't like it 254 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: was last time. This is not a credit crisis. This 255 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: is a situation where it's a few banks that have 256 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: some problems and it's better to make sure that we 257 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: nip that in the bud. As we talk today, the 258 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: Federal Reserve has announced that it's going to increase the 259 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: federal discount rate by another twenty five basis points, which 260 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: was probably not a surprise in the market. Do you 261 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: think that was the right decision now? I think it 262 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: was a tough decision. Was Jake and a pause? Was 263 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: he going to increase it by the twenty five bits 264 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: or more? I think what he said was apparently jolly sensible. 265 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: If you'll pardon the British expression, I do that occasionally. 266 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: He said, we don't know how much credit tightening is 267 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: going to come from what's gone on in the last 268 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. We don't quite know what's going to 269 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: happen there. So we do know that inflation is a 270 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: real problem. It's persistent, it's starting to come off. But 271 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: he has to tackle this and in Jay the market's 272 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: trust and many of us do that they're going to 273 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: tackle inflation hard. But let's also see where the data is. 274 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: Do you see any evidence in the information data that 275 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: city has that we are heading for a recession? If so, 276 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: when might you think we would see the evidence of that? Yeah, 277 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: I mean, we've certainly been expecting that a recession could 278 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: well be could well be happening in the second half 279 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: of the year. If one does occur, we don't think 280 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: it will be that heavy because normally, when you're heading 281 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: into some tougher times, you know, the consumers not in 282 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: such good health, the companies aren't, the banks aren't, whereas 283 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: that's not the case right now. The consumer is in 284 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: good health, the corporate balance sheets are strong, and the 285 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: banks are strong. So the factors that typically amplify a 286 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: recession and not in these not in play at the moment, 287 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: So we have to make sure there's nothing crazy happens 288 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: in the duo political world that would change it. 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