1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app. Hello, how are you? 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: This is one of those stupid fake holidays. 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 2: Happy President's Day, John. 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: So that all the lazy slobs in the world can 6 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: stay home President's Day. Yes, we're supposed to do what 7 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: I mean, at least on Christmas. You know, you're supposed 8 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: to go to church if you're religious, or exchange gifts 9 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: under the tree. 10 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 2: Go to a presidential library. 11 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 1: A presidential library, You get discounts at the store, Yeah, 12 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: you do, right, car sales, stuff like that. But I 13 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: was thinking all the presidents in my lifetime and how 14 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: nearly all of them really were bad. They were just 15 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: there's no there was nobody to admire, like the last 16 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: twenty years, last forty years, fifty years. First president I 17 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: really remember was Richard Nixon that didn't turn out well, 18 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: and Gerald Ford who could couldn't stand up straight because 19 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: he was so drunk. And then Jimmy Carter was obviously 20 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: a disaster. Whit people think the inflation rate is bad now, 21 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: you should have seen it when Carter was president. It 22 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: was like thirteen percent, So he was no good. Clinton 23 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: was the only thing I remember. You think of Clinton, right, 24 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: you think of something sexual money first thing? Yeah, Monica right, 25 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: you think of sex acts, sex acts that you don't 26 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: want to imagine between him and Monica right and George Bush. 27 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: What did we get out of that? We got? We 28 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: got a stupid war, We got the stock market crash, 29 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: the mortgage market crashed. Katrina Obama was annoying more than 30 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: anything else. Nice voice, nice voice, I was, which just 31 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: wrote him. 32 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 2: Off there, I corrected myself, you. 33 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: Know, and Trump was Trump's insane. Biden is half dead. 34 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: Why do we venerate presidents? What's the need in human 35 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: nature to have like a daddy figure, to have a 36 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: royalty figure, a king? I mean most of them are 37 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: just political hacks that floated to the top of the 38 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: ball and for then government workers primarily to get the 39 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: day off. 40 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 2: No mail today, no yeah. 41 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 1: And this place is empty, of course, I can't tell 42 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: this from any average Monday. 43 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 2: And it's raining also, I don't know if. 44 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: People raining, right, why didn't you come in? Oh, it 45 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: was raining, I might get wet. Buy you an umbrella. 46 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:45,839 Speaker 1: There's going to be traffic on the freeway. I saw 47 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: two accidents on the way here. This morning, and I 48 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: still made it to work on time. Yeah. I saw 49 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: that sinkhole on the ramp off the four or five 50 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: by Skirball, but nobody had fallen into it. Like if 51 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: there were people falling into sinkholes, like get see why 52 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,839 Speaker 1: you need the day off? Right? I couldn't get to work. 53 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: I fell into a sinkhole. 54 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 2: Mondays and Fridays, John people just don't show up to 55 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 2: work anymore. 56 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: I haven't gotten used to that yet. 57 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 2: I haven't either. 58 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 1: And then it seems like Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday too 59 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: though for some people. Some people anybody out bicycling today, Oh, 60 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: I guess they can't. No, it's raining that screwed up 61 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: the bike plans. I saw something and they've reduced it 62 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: to it. Well, they've taken it off now. On Fox News, 63 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: I heard this driving in Bill Mlucian, who we had 64 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: him on last week, and he's a terrific reporter and 65 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: normally he's in Texas. But what hasn't gotten reported enough 66 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: is that Texas has been very effective and shutting down 67 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: the border with Mexico that between all the cargo containers 68 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: and the razor wire and the National Guard and other 69 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: law enforcement in Texas they threw the Feds out, if 70 00:03:55,400 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: you remember, and Milusia said Eagle Pass, which was looking 71 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: at three to four thousand illegal aliens a day, he said, 72 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: it's down to about thirty to forty. So from three 73 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: to four thousand down to thirty to forty because Greg Abbott, 74 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: the governor, put up barriers right. Turns out that most 75 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: illegal aliens can't climb over cargo containers and razor wire 76 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: and don't want to take on the National Guard down there. 77 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: So he was reporting this morning they've actually moved him 78 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: out of Texas because there's nothing to report anymore. Now 79 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: he's based whereas he based in California, south of San Diego, 80 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: a little to the west of the where the fence ends. 81 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: The border fence ends. It turns out there's a very 82 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: rocky mountain to the west of the fence and they 83 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: have there apparently, he said, maybe one hundred people he 84 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: could see from a long distance, and they have climbed 85 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: up the Mexican side of the mountain and they were 86 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: coming down the other side. But it was really steep 87 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: and really treacherous, and when he interviewed some of the 88 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: people found out they're from Kazakhstan. Kazakhstan. There are Kazakhs 89 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: running loose Kazakhstan, China. There's a lot of people, he said, 90 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: from China. There was a whole many encampment of Chinese. 91 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: And where else were they? 92 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 3: Oh? 93 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: Africa. And they're making their way up one side of 94 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 1: the mountain and down they're going very slowly. And what 95 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: do we have at the bottom of our side of 96 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: the mountain. We have a welcoming committee from the Border 97 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 1: Patrol who are standing there getting ready to process the migrants. 98 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: See they've been they've been fenced off in in Texas 99 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: finally and Abbas, as you know, thousands and thousands out 100 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: of state. But here in California, what do we got. 101 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: We got the dope Newsom who as of this year, 102 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: is now giving out free medical care to illegal aliens. 103 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: Maybe you didn't know this, but this actually passed last 104 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 1: year free medical care to illegal aliens. So they're coming 105 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: down the mountain all the way from Kazakhstan in China. 106 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 1: As soon as they set foot here, it's like, are 107 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: you okay, do you need a doctor? We'll give you 108 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: a ride to the hospital. Everything's covered by the California taxpayer. 109 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: Even though we have the highest taxes in the nation, 110 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 1: and we're sixty seven billion in deficit this year. We 111 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: have even more money to give to Kazakhs and the 112 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 1: Chinese and people from Africa and everywhere else on the globe. 113 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 1: If you're willing to hike up and down the mountain, 114 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: you win. You get to the bottom of the hill, 115 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: bottom of the hill, the bottom of the mountain. You 116 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: should see it. This is crazy because it's squeezed now. 117 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: The whole immigration flow to the West, because they're going 118 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: where there's no barrier, no laws. You come to California. 119 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: The whole world knows you come to California. We have 120 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: no laws. There is nothing that you will be sighted 121 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: or arrested for, and you will certainly not be deported. 122 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: In fact, we give you. It's like a game show. 123 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: Get to the bottom of the mountain, and you've won 124 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: free healthcare, you've won free shelter, you've won a lifetime 125 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: supply of food. There's no limit to We spend tens 126 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: of billions a year on illegal aliens who've come into California, 127 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: and the prizes are so good that they'll climb this mountain. 128 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: Bill Mallusion, who's been at the border for three years, 129 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: mostly in Texas. He says he's never seen anything like 130 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: what he saw. What he was seeing. He is reporting 131 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: live just in the last hour or two, and Fox 132 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: is still running the video in the corner of the 133 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: screen from time to time, and you see this just 134 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: steady march of people. We're going to have to pay 135 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: for all, right, coming up. There actually was a debate 136 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: in city council in Los Angeles over whether we should 137 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: go after copper thieves, and there were I have to 138 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 1: be fair here, most of the city council agreed we 139 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: should go after copper thieves, but there were some who 140 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: didn't think it was right. And we have to highlight 141 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: them because this is what has screwed up the state 142 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: and the city is this kind of thinking. And I 143 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: wish there was a way to remove these people from 144 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 1: office instantly. We will talk about it when we come back. 145 00:08:56,040 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: Guess what, No money for you anymore, No more content, 146 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: no more thousand dollars, no more keywords, no more nothing. 147 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: You missed it, you missed it. 148 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 3: Uh. 149 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: We're going to keep the money here that Debra's holding 150 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: on to the thousand dollars. 151 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 2: I'm going to go shopping when I get off the air. 152 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: Deb's going to save up and get a handbag. 153 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from kf I 154 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 4: am six forty. 155 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: No money for you. Contest over you should be working today. 156 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: Oh you're not because it's President's Day. Well we're not 157 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: going to make up the difference. We're out of money. Uh. 158 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: Here is this is one of the stupidest stories that 159 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: I can cross. Over the weekend the the there's there's 160 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:50,719 Speaker 1: actually a debate going on over how hard we are 161 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: to go after copper thieves. If you don't know, there 162 00:09:55,240 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: are thousands of overhead street lights that are no longer 163 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: working because all the massive amount of copper wires that 164 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: have been stolen by all the criminals that run Amock. 165 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: Because we no longer put anybody in jail for anything, 166 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 1: and every neighborhood is going dark, freeways are going dark, 167 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: and this is unlike any other city in the country. 168 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 1: So they had a they had a meeting last week 169 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: in city council and it was a contentious debate. The 170 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: latest incident which got everyone's attention was a plaque was 171 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: stolen at the Bethel A m E. Church was stolen 172 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: because it was made of well they're also stealing bronze 173 00:10:54,720 --> 00:11:00,079 Speaker 1: as well. They're stealing copper wire, they're stealing bronze plaques, 174 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: and the local people who go to the church are 175 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: really upset. In December, thieves stole one third of the 176 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: copper wires that light up the sixth Street Viaduct, that 177 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: is the famous bridge that connects East La to downtown. 178 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: And as Kevin de Leone and by the way, as 179 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: nutty and as Kevin de Leone is, he's actually speaking 180 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: the most sense because many of the council members want 181 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: to well, I'll give you an example. Council Member Unicis Hernandez. 182 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: She wants she wants to do something to understand why 183 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: people steal copper. Because they passed motions to establish a 184 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: rewards program basically to get members of the public to 185 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: snitch on the copper thief and unsus. Hernandez said, the 186 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: rewards program misses critical steps and understanding the root of 187 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: this problem. The root of this problem is bad people 188 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: steal things in order to make money easy. That's the 189 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: root of the problem. They grew up probably with no fathers. 190 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: They were not taught morals, they were not taught to 191 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: respect other people's property, that's the root cause here, and 192 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: it's always been that way since the beginning of humanity. 193 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: The first guy who stole a rock from his neighbor's 194 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: cave was raised badly by the cave parents. Let's call 195 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: this guy Og. Okay, you know why Og stole the 196 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: rock slab in his neighbor's cave because mister and missus 197 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: Ogg were bad parents and didn't teach him right from wrong. 198 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: And Hernandez said, well, rather than expand city efforts and 199 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: resources on a reward program that does not intervene until 200 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: after the damage is done and focuses on punitive measures, 201 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 1: why aren't we looking to how we could prevent this 202 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: cycle together. Well, there's nothing you can do unless you 203 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 1: have a way of forcing parents to stay together and 204 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: raise their kids properly. But if dad knocks up mom 205 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: and then runs off, and mom is overwhelmed and maybe 206 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: he's not wrap too tight to begin with, what are 207 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 1: you going to do here? The government? I hate to 208 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: break this to people. The government cannot raise anybody's kids. 209 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: It shouldn't even try if it try to do it badly. 210 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: If parents don't want to raise their kids, then they're 211 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: going to run around stealing copper wire, because, as de 212 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: Leon points out, you could sell a lot of copper 213 00:13:55,360 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: wire and make eleven thousand dollars just the copper wire 214 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,199 Speaker 1: they stole from the sixth Street Viaduct. It was eleven 215 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 1: thousand dollars. But the repairs are going to cost taxpayers 216 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: two and a half million. So you have to put 217 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: these guys in prison, not local jail, but in prison, 218 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: and you put them in prison for years. That's the 219 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: only thing that's going to stop them. You know, they 220 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: get a good five years in prison for stealing eleven 221 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: thousand dollars worth of copper they might not do it 222 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: again unless they want to give up another five years. 223 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: And dumping prisoners out of prison was the single stupidest 224 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: idea that we've ever had in the state. And then 225 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: we spend all this time going why. 226 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 3: Are people stealing all the copper wire? What is the 227 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 3: root cause? 228 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: That whole concept of root cause ought to be banned. 229 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: I told you what the root cause is, and you 230 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: know what the root cause is. In fact, the people 231 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: who use that term, they know what the root cause 232 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: is because they don't raise their kids this way. They 233 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: raised their kids to have a sense of right and wrong, 234 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: you got to do it when they're two years old, 235 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: three years old. If you don't get that lesson in 236 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: by age five, you're done. Councilman. Council Member Monica ron 237 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: Rigez stood by the rewards program. We can't make it 238 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: easier for them to continue to break into these systems, 239 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: steal the copper wire, cash it in and create a 240 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: bigger public safety threat. Yeah, we all have to drive 241 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: around in the dark. You know, they're so worried about 242 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: pedestrians they get run over and bicyclists they get run over. Well, 243 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: there's going to be a lot more people getting run 244 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: over as Los Angeles continues to fall into darkness. The 245 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: council President Paul Krekory had said something nutty. He said, 246 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: we have to go after the purchasers of the stolen metal, 247 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: the unscrupulous purchasers, who are the real source of the problem. No, 248 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: the real source of the problem is the people who 249 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: steal and I don't care what the root cause is 250 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: why they do it. They do it because it's easy money. 251 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: What can you do in one evening that makes you 252 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: eleven thousand dollars. Who has a job where in one 253 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: night you can make eleven grand who now copper thieves 254 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: have a job where they can make eleven thousand dollars 255 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: by the way down in the in the U where 256 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: is it? In the harbor area around San Pedro, plaques 257 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: were stolen from the American Merchant Marines Veterans Memorial. They 258 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: also were stolen at other memorials dedicated to fishing industry 259 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: families and longshore workers. So bronze plaques are now being 260 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: stolen and melted down by this crowd. Now they'd arrested 261 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: three people and these look at this. Here's a guy 262 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: who's forty two years old, Deonse Tisby, Deyonse Tisby, forty two, 263 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: and he's stealing bronze plaques for a living. I have 264 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 1: a feeling Deonza should have been given a long term 265 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: prison sentence. Quite away's back, Britney Draper, she's thirty seven. 266 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:18,360 Speaker 1: These aren't even kids. These aren't even you know, teenagers 267 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: who make a mistake because they're so young, thirty seven 268 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: and forty two, forty two, you're starting to push middle age. 269 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: And Deanna Jackson twenty eight. The other nutball Communist Council member, 270 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: Hugo Soda Martinez, said that the council ought to understand 271 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: that the theft might be committed by people living in 272 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 1: poverty who are pushed into acts of desperation. No, they're not. 273 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 1: It's because they don't want to work every day like 274 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: a normal person. They don't want to work. A forty 275 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 1: two year old guy, if he's agile enough to steal 276 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 1: eleven thousand dollars worth of copper, then he's agile enough 277 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: to have a job forty hours a week, and then 278 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: he doesn't have to steal copper. Enough with this poverty thing, 279 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 1: there's plenty of workout there. There's millions of job openings 280 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 1: in America. Unemployments at record low. So stop it, all right, 281 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: we come back. We are going to talk to Blake Trolley. 282 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: There was a specially grab robbery in Riverside, thousands of 283 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 1: dollars in jewelry stolen, and the store owner started firing 284 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: his gun at the robbers. It was all on video, 285 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: and I watched that over and over again this morning. 286 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 1: It was entertaining debor mark. No handbags are stolen though, Denver. 287 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 2: Oh, that's good. 288 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 289 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 4: six forty. 290 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: We're gonna go to Blake Trolly in one minute. This Thursday, 291 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: we're doing a special show at the Honda Center in Anaheim. 292 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: You can come meet us the Honda Center in Anaheim 293 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: from one to four o'clock. We're gonna broadcast live from 294 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: parking lot number four. Why you ask, We are going 295 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 1: to ask you to sign petitions to help massively revise 296 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: Prop forty seven. Very important. 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They are going to 306 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:50,360 Speaker 1: go after fentanyl traffickers and charge them with murder if 307 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 1: they kill somebody, and drug possessors and drug users. When 308 00:19:56,200 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: they arrest you, you will be given a choice prison treatment. 309 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: You don't take the treatment, you go to prison, which 310 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: is the way it used to be. So that's one 311 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: to four on Thursday. You come see us. We're gonna 312 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: broadcast live from Lot four at the Honda Center. Take 313 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: the ball Road exit now onto Blake Trolley because hey, 314 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: this is exactly what we're talking about here. Another smash 315 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: and grab robbery, this one on video quite entertaining it. 316 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: Two robbers came in with hammers and we're chased away 317 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: with gunshots from the owner. But they didn't get a 318 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: good haul. And this happened in Riverside and Blake Trolley 319 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:36,360 Speaker 1: from Cafe News has details. 320 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 5: Blake welcome, Yeah, John, this is another example of a 321 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 5: small business fighting back. You know, we don't really see 322 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 5: this with the larger retailers, but we've been told in 323 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 5: the past by some of these smaller retailers that hey, 324 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 5: we can't afford to take these losses. We're gonna fight 325 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 5: back if people come in and start stealing things. And 326 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 5: that's exactly what happened at Geneva Jewelry. This is a 327 00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 5: family run jewelry store in a really nice little shopping 328 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 5: center in Riverside. Two mass thieves entered the store. It 329 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 5: sounds like they were staking out the place because what 330 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 5: happened was a woman entered the store through one of 331 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 5: those doors that a lot of the jewelry stores now 332 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 5: have in California that auto lock when the customer walks in. Yeah, well, 333 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 5: these guys bolted in when it was propped open, and 334 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 5: once inside, and this was all caught on video, they 335 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:27,479 Speaker 5: just started swinging the hammers at cases. That customer that 336 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 5: they followed in. The woman, she starts freaking out on video. 337 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 5: She runs for the door, but because it's one of 338 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 5: those doors that auto lock, she now can't get it open. 339 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 5: So she's stuck in this nightmare. So she starts running 340 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 5: for the back of the store. The owner, who was 341 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 5: in the back grabs a shotgun and fired a shot 342 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 5: into the floor. And you know exactly when he does 343 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 5: this in the video that you say you watched over 344 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 5: and over again, because you just see these two thieves 345 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 5: start booking it. 346 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: And one of them dropped to the ground or tripped 347 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:58,479 Speaker 1: and fell to the ground. 348 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, So the owner fired another shot towards them. 349 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 5: One takes out a window as they're exiting the store, 350 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 5: and one of the thieves falls on their way to 351 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 5: a getaway car. It sounds like they did though despite him, 352 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 5: you know, the jewelry store owner successfully scaring these. 353 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: Two guys off. 354 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 5: They did make it off with thousands of dollars worth 355 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 5: of jewelry. They are still on the run. 356 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: That said. 357 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 5: Riverside Police officer Ryan Railsback tells me the store owner 358 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 5: has not been charged. He says store owners can't have guns. 359 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 5: He says, using guns requires the same requirements as police officers. 360 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 6: If you feel that your safety or the safety of 361 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 6: someone else's in that you're around as an immediate danger, 362 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 6: you know, and you use your firearm, you need to 363 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 6: make sure that you justify that and the facts and 364 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 6: the evidence will show that. 365 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 5: So just some speculation, these guys have had hammer. Investigators 366 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 5: are calling this a violent smash and grab. You have 367 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 5: two hammer acting violently scaring a customer who police say 368 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 5: was in danger. She could have been harmed. So I 369 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,959 Speaker 5: do think it's unlikely that down the road you're going 370 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 5: to see any charges brought in this to. 371 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: That guy was one hundred percent justified in firing the 372 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,360 Speaker 1: shotgun at them. I'm just sorry he missed. It would 373 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: have been great if he had taken the two of 374 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: them out. Oh and the these hoodie guys with their 375 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: with their stupid masks on. And I heard, uh, and 376 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: you know what, compliment you with, Blake, because you didn't 377 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 1: do that newsperson cliche. It's like and and police are 378 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: hoping that the video will play a key role in 379 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: capturing the suspects. It is not going to play a 380 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: key role because you can't identify them. They got a 381 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: hoodie and a mask on. You can't tell who they are. 382 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 1: Could have been me and you and there were waving hammers. 383 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: They're never good. Police aren't gonna wait for that. 384 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 5: Wait wait for the recorded reports to come out, John, 385 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 5: before you compliment me, I haven't even cut. 386 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: This thing saying that, But yeah, it makes me mad. 387 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: I'll make sure I'll make sure not to. Yeah. No, 388 00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: it's true. 389 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 5: There's really no way to tell who these guys. It's 390 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 5: even hard to tell if it's a man or a woman, 391 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 5: you know, just given the fact that they are so 392 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,919 Speaker 5: covered up. But again, this case, I do think it's 393 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 5: unlikely you'll see charges. And I do want to say John, 394 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 5: that this story is similar to a story that happened 395 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 5: in Riverside just in the fall. Two guys, at least 396 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 5: one of those armed, tried to rob a massage parlor 397 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 5: and a customer in that parlor open fire and critically 398 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 5: wounded one. 399 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 1: Of those robbers. 400 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 5: That guy that shot that bullet or that open fire 401 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 5: at those robbers. That customer has still not been charged 402 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 5: if piers police feel that person legitimately felt that they 403 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 5: were at risk of great bodily injury or death. And 404 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 5: again we saw this last in the fall as well 405 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 5: in el Moni, same thing, family owned jewelry store. Somebody 406 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 5: goes in, starts smashing up display cases and the owners 407 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 5: start beating that person with a stick and chase them 408 00:24:55,640 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 5: down the street. So we're really starting to see, well, 409 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 5: you know, business owners are starting to take things into 410 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 5: their own hands. And I remember when I was in Elmani, 411 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 5: these small business owners said we'd do the same thing. 412 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 5: We can't take these losses. 413 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: It's terrifying sitting there not knowing when the next guy 414 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: is coming in with a gun or a hammer and 415 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: he's going to clean you out, and maybe he'll shoot 416 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: you or stab you or something. What has to happen 417 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: is some of these robbers get get taken out themselves, 418 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: and then maybe they'll they'll back off and go go 419 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: find something else to do, Go and steal copper wire 420 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: or whatever's in vogue right now. Very good. 421 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, we have seen we have seen people be attacked 422 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 5: in the past. I'm mean, I do want to point 423 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 5: that out that there really is a threat to some 424 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 5: of these business owners. If you remember in Chinatown recently, 425 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 5: there was that woman who tried to get in the 426 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 5: way of that thief stealing I believe it was a 427 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 5: statue and she got punched in the face. 428 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, knocked to the floor. You're taking a risk, but 429 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 1: this guy had the right idea with the shotgun. All right, Blake, 430 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: thanks very much for the call, for the call for 431 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 1: the report, and thanks for the call. All right, thanks John. 432 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: That's Blake Trolley from KFI News. Smash and Grab. Well, 433 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: I saw that this morning. I was so pissed off. 434 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: I'm so tired. You're tired of seeing this? What happened 435 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: to the task for us? Right? I thought all everybody 436 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: had a task for us to take care of this. 437 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: And if they're caught, how much prison time do they get? 438 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: I know they're trying to write up a new bill 439 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 1: now or Newsom is pretending to push for a new 440 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:36,479 Speaker 1: bill and to make smash and grab a separate crime. 441 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: And it made me think, well, I guess it must 442 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 1: not be much of a crime right now, not much 443 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: of a sentence if you do it now, if they 444 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 1: need a new bill, or is just posturing virtue signaling 445 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:51,959 Speaker 1: more coming up. 446 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 447 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 4: six forty. 448 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: The Rebecca Grossman trial can continues. She is the she's 449 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: the woman who ran over those two young boys, brothers 450 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 1: in Westlake Village. Rebecca Grossman, who's the wife of doctor 451 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:18,959 Speaker 1: Peter Grossman, the founder of the Grossman Burns Center. They 452 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: were having a separation period in their marriage, and she 453 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:26,199 Speaker 1: was running around with former Dodgers pitcher Scott Erickson. And 454 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: even though she's got all this damage on her car 455 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 1: after kidding and killing the two boys, and the airbag 456 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: blew out, and it was a Mercedes, so the car 457 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 1: automatically disabled. Even with all that evidence, the defense is 458 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: trying to find some vegetables on the jury who will 459 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: believe that it was Scott Erickson who ran over the 460 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 1: boys and killed them. They were driving near each other, 461 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: they were racing home after spending some time at a 462 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: bar and drinking, and she had some thallium in her 463 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: system too. She's charged with a second degree murder two counts, 464 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: and we will talk with Carvin Carson because there was 465 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: a twist involving Grossman's daughter in the case. Did you 466 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 1: ever take take your kids to the library when they 467 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: were little for like a little mommy and me reading 468 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 1: sessions or I would go. 469 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,719 Speaker 2: I would go to libraries, and I'd also go to bookstores. 470 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. I remember taking my guys over to you know, 471 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: like ten o'clock in the morning. Yeah, you'd go there 472 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: and it would be reading time and they would do 473 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: a sing along. Maybe they would all, you know, sit 474 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: in a circle and then they'd all stand up and 475 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: do not a dance exactly, but I know they'd all 476 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: walk around the ring together. Well, the Antioch Library up 477 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: in northern California, that's Intra Coatra Costa County. They had 478 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: to shut down the library. Here's what's been going on 479 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: at the public library. There was a couple having sex 480 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: openly in the bathroom. A wanted criminal was using a 481 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: library computer. Gee, I wonder what he was watching. They 482 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: had a racist letter left on us at the service desk, 483 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: and drunk library patrons acting aggressively. I don't think they 484 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: were library patrons. But they're intoxicated and they were getting 485 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: abusive in the library parking lot, drug dealing, a burning mattress, 486 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: the carjacking of one of the aids, and a hit 487 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: and run accident that damaged the car of the library's 488 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: security guard. He must be a busy guyard. Does you 489 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 1: just stand there and watch all this mayhem? The library said, 490 00:29:56,120 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: the Contra Costa Library has made this difficult decision to 491 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: repeated dangerous incidents in the last few months. We apologize 492 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: for the short notice and the inconvenience. Why isn't the 493 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: city of Antioch or the county doing something to protect 494 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: this library? And because you know these are all drug 495 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: addicts and vagrants and you know, neighborhood criminals. It says. 496 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: The closure took many Antioch residents by surprise, including the Mayor, 497 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: Lamar hernandez Hythan Thorpe. I am shocked at the overnight 498 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: closure of the library. Antioch residents, at no point we're 499 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: given warning of this possibility. How come this guy wasn't 500 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: shocked at now the couple having sex, the guy downloading 501 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: the porno, the drunken library patrons, people listen upset about 502 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: the drug dealing the burning mattress, the carjacking, and they 503 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: hit and run. No, the library is closing so that 504 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 1: nobody gets killed. And Hernandez hyphen Thorpe wrote a letter 505 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: to some other administrator demanding to know why he wasn't informed. 506 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: Now here's some some details. December. First, the staff called 507 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: nine one one. They found one library patron who appeared 508 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: to be on an unknown substance that would be drugs. 509 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: He was shaking and he had white powder on his 510 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: face and mucus streaming from his nose. Imagine bringing your 511 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: kids for story time to this. But you know, the librarians. 512 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: Librarians really baffle me because you know, they were always 513 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: seen like kindly people, mostly women, and they were just, 514 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: you know, matronly. They were like everybody's mom, very civilized 515 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: and pleasant, unless you remember, if you made noise, I was. 516 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 2: Gonna say, if you were talking, you'd get scolded. 517 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: Right now. You could be on drugs with white pattern 518 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: on your face and mucus coming out of your nose, 519 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: and that's what it takes for them to react. And 520 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: then the librarian found a note that said I hate blank, 521 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: followed by a racial slur. This is all this stuff 522 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: happened December and January. Oh, here we go. January thirteenth, 523 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: staff found large amounts of blood pooled on the bathroom floor. 524 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I have to go to the bathroom. On 525 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: January thirty first staff closed the building. They found two 526 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: unresponsive people, one nude from the waist down. It's not funny, No, 527 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: it's not funny. But what I remember is the librarians 528 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 1: went from being nice, you know, maternal characters in life, 529 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: to they were all in favor of protecting the rights 530 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: of the homeless people to sit in the library, that 531 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: they should be treated just like anyone else, they shouldn't 532 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: be discriminated against. Even though these creeps in perverts spent 533 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: the day watching pornography in the library. Why and I 534 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: was shocked that you could access pornography in the library. 535 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: Then these guys watch it and nobody stops them and 536 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 1: throws them out, calls the police. This was going on 537 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: all over the place. Oh and then February sixteenth, couple 538 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: having sex in the bathroom asked to leave. Then they 539 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: found him in the walkway having sex again nude. The 540 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: Antjock library and the mayor is upset that nobody told 541 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: him that they were closing suddenly, and this is this 542 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: is a great one. Here, a spokeshole for the library, 543 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: Brooke Converse says that the librarians are not trained to 544 00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: deal with these types of issues. Well, no, I don't 545 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: think people in psychiatric hospitals are trained to deal with 546 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: all these kinds of issues. So they're going to close 547 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: it indefinitely until they figure out the security. Just you know, 548 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: if you see a creepy person approaching, throw him into 549 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:17,879 Speaker 1: the street, because I bet you it's regulars. I bet 550 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 1: you it's all the usual losers in the neighborhood. And 551 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: you know, just do what you have to do. Fire 552 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 1: a couple of warning shots in the air, kind of 553 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: fire hose out, zero tolerance. 554 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 3: It's not that hard. Oh no, but there, Why don't 555 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,879 Speaker 3: we go look for their root clauses as to why 556 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 3: somebody would take their clothes off and snart cocaine? And 557 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 3: are we come back? 558 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 1: What are we doing here? I'm gonna have We're going 559 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 1: Corbin right, Corbin Carson is coming on and we are 560 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 1: gonna talk about the Rebecca Grossman trial. It's in the 561 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: defense phase now. Deborah Mark Live the CAFI twenty four 562 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,840 Speaker 1: our newsroom. Hey, you've been listening to The John Cobalt 563 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 1: Show podcast. You can always hear the show live on 564 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 1: CAFI Am six forty from one to four pm every 565 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 1: Monday through Friday, and of course, anytime on demand on 566 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app.