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Speaker 1: Welcome to episode five oh five The Bobby Cast with

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Speaker 1: Mark Hoppus from Blank one Eddy two And I'm a

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Speaker 1: Blink one Eddy two fan, but Mike, you're a super fan.

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Speaker 2: I would say my favorite band of all time.

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Speaker 1: Dang, we got County Crows and Mark Hoppus from Blink

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Speaker 1: in the same week. That's crazy. So you read the book.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, mentioned in three days.

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Speaker 2: I haven't read a book in three years.

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Speaker 1: What'd you learn about him that you did not know

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Speaker 1: even though you're a super.

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Speaker 2: Fan that behind all the funniness and like him being

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Speaker 2: like so over the top, he had a lot of

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Speaker 2: anxiety and depression that you would never think about.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, it wasn't that kind of common for

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Speaker 2: But I mean Blink is like just known for their humor,

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Speaker 2: like on stage, off stage, and just to hear him

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Speaker 2: write about that stuff, what he was really going through,

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Speaker 2: and especially during the time when the band broke up,

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Speaker 2: like kind of losing his identity because he's like, I'm

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Speaker 2: not gonna be the guy from Blink one eighty two anymore.

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Speaker 1: He grew up a navy bratt, which I didn't know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, crazy things he saw as a kid. What do

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Speaker 2: you mean like like he saw a plane crash when

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Speaker 2: he was a kid that in order to avoid hitting

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Speaker 2: the school, like drifted off to the side so it

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Speaker 2: wouldn't hit crash into the school.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: That was like one of his earliest.

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Speaker 1: Memories from Blink one eighty two and his book, which

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Speaker 1: is called Fahrenheit one eighty two. Here is Mark Hoppis, Hey,

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Speaker 1: Mark books, awesome. Read the book. Didn't think I'd read

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Speaker 1: it all as quick because they did. We just got

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Speaker 1: a few days ago, thanks and jammed out. It was awesome.

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Speaker 1: I have some notes actually from specifically from the book

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Speaker 1: that I have listed here, and if you're okay, I

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Speaker 1: would just like to go through my notes about your

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Speaker 1: book totally. Let's go okay. First of all, First off,

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Speaker 1: Elton John kissed me on the mouth once, and so

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Speaker 1: it was awesome. And I was at a charity deal

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Speaker 1: and I was sitting with him and he grabbed me

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Speaker 1: at the end of a song and kissed me on

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Speaker 1: the mouth. And I was like, that was awesome. Melton

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Speaker 1: John just kissed me on the mouth. Now, when I

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Speaker 1: read your story, it felt a bit similar. So a

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Speaker 1: musical hero of yours kissed you on the mouth. Ture

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Speaker 1: or falsehoo, very true?

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Speaker 4: Do you want to reveal who it is?

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Speaker 1: Or shall I tell the story behind it? Please?

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Speaker 5: So when we were recording the untitled album back in

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Speaker 5: two thousand and three, we had this song that was

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Speaker 5: really cool and a little bit dark, and Tom said,

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Speaker 5: you know who would sound awesome on this song is

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Speaker 5: Robert Smith from The Cure.

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Speaker 4: And I was like, Oh, that'd be so cool. I

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Speaker 4: wonder how we get a hold of him.

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Speaker 5: And Tom's already on the phone making calls, and one

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Speaker 5: of our friends was managing The Cure at the time,

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Speaker 5: and so we got Robert Smith to sing on a

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Speaker 5: Blink one eighty two song and it was one of

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Speaker 5: the biggest coups of my whole career, just like a

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Speaker 5: hero of mine grew up listening to The Cure, hugely

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Speaker 5: influential on a Blink album. So we go to London

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Speaker 5: and we're performing a show and we say, hey, Robert Smith,

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Speaker 5: And he very graciously said yes, and he came to

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Speaker 5: Boys Don't Cry, And then afterwards we were hanging out

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Speaker 5: wife and I went to get him hug and I said, hey, man,

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Speaker 5: thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: It means the world to me that you were here

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Speaker 4: and you were on this song. And then he leaned

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Speaker 4: in and he gave me a kiss on the mouth.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome. That's an awesome story. And I tell people

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Speaker 1: in my Ole and John story, They're like really, I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was great and yeah. So I questions, So you're

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Speaker 1: a self taught bassis. How do you think that's affected

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Speaker 1: how you play? Meaning since you taught yourself, it's a

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Speaker 6: Like the sound Blink, I feel like my technique is terrible,

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Speaker 6: but I feel like I write from a place of joy,

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Speaker 6: and I write from a place of you know, growing

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Speaker 6: up literally playing the Cure.

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Speaker 5: Songs and playing descendant songs and bad religion. And the

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Speaker 5: way that I play bass in Blink is kind of

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Speaker 5: a combination between a bass guitar and a rhythm guitar

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Speaker 5: because we only have one guitarist. So when Tom would

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Speaker 5: go in noodle things, I was more almost a rhythm guitarist,

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Speaker 5: so I really like playing bass and what it does

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Speaker 5: in songs and what it does in music and what

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Speaker 5: it does in blink on to You.

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Speaker 1: Grew up as a navy brat, I'm going from a

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Speaker 1: notes here. You lived in a trailer. Your dad worked

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Speaker 1: for the next Department of Defense, designing missiles and balms.

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Speaker 1: So what would you see in the house was like

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Speaker 1: I just pictured as I was reading, like an architect's kid,

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Speaker 1: but it was about bombs.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, kind of my dad.

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Speaker 5: I remember one time my dad brought home a steel

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Speaker 5: plate that was about a half an inch thick and

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Speaker 5: it was They called it witness plates.

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Speaker 4: And what they would do is they would set up

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Speaker 5: In the middle of the desert, which is why I

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Speaker 5: lived in the middle of desert when I was growing up,

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Speaker 5: because the Navy would test missiles and bombs there and

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Speaker 5: I thought it would be so cool to take these heavy,

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Speaker 4: Art with them or put them in some kind.

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Speaker 5: Of an art display because they had seen they had

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Speaker 1: Your dad being Department of Defence, but you growing up

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Speaker 1: like you did musically, like having it. Where was he

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Speaker 1: in the Hey, I want you to do music or

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Speaker 1: I don't want you to do music spectrum.

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Speaker 5: He was supportive of me doing music. In fact, she

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Speaker 5: bought me my first bass guitar. But when I said

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Speaker 5: band and drop out of college, he was.

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Speaker 4: Like, that's cool, but make sure that you have a

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Speaker 5: He was a lot more practical than my mom was,

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Speaker 5: who said, absolutely drop out of college. You can go

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Speaker 5: to be in a band.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that is not really the answer I would expect

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Speaker 1: from the That sounds more like love than parents that

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Speaker 1: dependable job, Like that's yeah, and you what you liked

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Speaker 1: and what you did, there's nothing there. I mean, you

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Speaker 5: Yeah, my parents have always been really supportive, and I've

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Speaker 5: always come to shows, and in fact, my parents are.

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Speaker 4: Coming I'm doing this book to her now. My parents

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Speaker 5: So I think that would be really fun to perform

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Speaker 1: Whenever you and Tom met, you talk about I mean,

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Speaker 1: my favorite parts when you fell it not that it

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Speaker 1: was funny that you hurt yourself, but it's funny now

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Speaker 4: It is funny now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you guys me, would you mind telling that

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Speaker 1: story about climbing the light post.

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Speaker 5: So literally, the day that I met Tom was the

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Speaker 5: and sat down and said to my sister, well, what

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Speaker 4: Do I do now? And she was like, well, you

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Speaker 5: He's my boyfriend's best friend, and he plays guitar, and

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Speaker 5: he's skateable words and you guys have the same sense

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Speaker 5: of humor. So we drove over to Tom's house, went

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Speaker 5: crutches for six weeks. But the great part of the

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Speaker 5: was Tom saying, hey, how do you feel? And I said, well,

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Speaker 5: do you want to come over and write some more songs?

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Speaker 5: And then we have been writing songs together ever since.

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Speaker 1: I have friends that are in duos and you know,

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Speaker 1: and most of the hits are with one singer where

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Speaker 1: you guys actually split it out. We were kind of

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Speaker 1: going through it before you came on. How do you

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Speaker 1: manage what's the dynamic there of picking who does what?

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Speaker 5: Tom and I are very liberal with using one another's voices.

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Speaker 5: For instance, Tom will write a song and it'll say

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Speaker 5: I think that you should sing this part. Generally in

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Speaker 5: the past, when we were first writing songs together, if

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Speaker 5: Tom wrote the lyrics to the songs, he would sing

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Speaker 5: those songs, and if I wrote the lyrics, I would

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Speaker 5: write the songs. But there were parts where I'd write

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Speaker 5: something and I said, I think this would sound better

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Speaker 5: in your range, because Tom has a really cool, aggressive,

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Speaker 5: screamy voice that hits really great in kind of like

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Speaker 5: the upper mid section, and I think that my voice

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Speaker 5: is better suited to the lower mid section the deeper section.

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Speaker 5: So we'll write songs with one another in mind like that.

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Speaker 1: Whenever you guys got your deal, it was because a

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Speaker 1: record label's kid was a fan, Like how did how

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Speaker 1: did that come together? And how did you even know

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Speaker 5: He had come to a bunch of shows that Blink

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Speaker 5: and this kid kept showing up. And then we would

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Speaker 5: all the same spots and he would say he was

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Speaker 1: A couple other notes from the book that I wanted

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Speaker 5: Things that's happened since the book has come out, and since,

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Speaker 1: What role to Tril play with you guys's fame?

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Speaker 1: sound in pop, which that was what you guys weren't.

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Speaker 1: Now all of a sudden, you're not pop, you're punk,

443
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Speaker 1: and now you're pop. But because you've changed it, you've

444
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Speaker 1: changed what pop is.

445
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Speaker 4: Right.

446
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Speaker 1: Did you guys ever have the man maybe we should

447
00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,119
Speaker 1: just go so hard and make sure people don't know

448
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Speaker 1: that so they know we're not pop. Was there ever

449
00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:34,119
Speaker 1: an identity crisis with Blink?

450
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Speaker 5: I think that after anema of the state and how

451
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Speaker 5: popular we got and how we were on pop music

452
00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,080
Speaker 5: stations at the time, that came to us. And like

453
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Speaker 5: you said, I don't feel like we changed our music

454
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Speaker 5: at all, but music had come to us. And so

455
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Speaker 5: on the next record, Takeout for Pants and Jacket, we

456
00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,199
Speaker 5: were like, we are going to plant the flag that

457
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Speaker 5: we are a rock band, that we are not chasing

458
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Speaker 5: some kind of fame, that we are not chasing some

459
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Speaker 5: kind of sound. We want to do a post hardcore,

460
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Speaker 5: you know, a really dark, cool record and So if

461
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Speaker 5: you look at all the stuff for Take eff for

462
00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,320
Speaker 5: Pants and Jacket, we're like wearing all black, We're not

463
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Speaker 5: smiling at anything. We're looking straight to the camera or

464
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Speaker 5: rs crossed, like we are the serious rock band now.

465
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Speaker 4: So a little bit of that.

466
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Speaker 5: But I would like what Take it from Pants and

467
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Speaker 5: Jacket did to us and really focused us on wait,

468
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Speaker 5: what are we trying to do? Like I feel like

469
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Speaker 5: End of the State was kind of our party punk

470
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Speaker 5: rock record, and then take Effort Pants and Jacket was

471
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Speaker 5: like a lot more dark and viby.

472
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Speaker 1: So I have three extremely cliche questions and only have

473
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Speaker 1: a few minutes left, but three these are extreme cliche.

474
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Speaker 1: So number one is going to get what is your

475
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Speaker 1: favorite Blink hit?

476
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Speaker 4: Favorite Blink hit?

477
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Speaker 5: I'll go with Feeling This Feeling This was the first

478
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Speaker 5: song that we wrote for the untitled record, And if

479
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Speaker 5: Aliens ever came down from outer space and said, what's

480
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Speaker 5: a Blink on any two song? I would play that,

481
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Speaker 5: and I would play all the small things. But I

482
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Speaker 5: think that this really showcases each one of us in

483
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Speaker 5: a different way, and it's kind of an artistic take

484
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Speaker 5: on a traditional Blinquinity two song that pushes things in.

485
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Speaker 4: A new direction that we were really excited about when

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Speaker 4: we wrote it.

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Speaker 1: Second cliche question, what was the best part about fame

488
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Speaker 1: and what was the hardest part about fame?

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Speaker 5: Best part about fame is that, Okay, here's the coolest

490
00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 5: thing that I ever got to do by being famous.

491
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Speaker 5: When they launched the first Pirates of the Caribbean movie,

492
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Speaker 5: we got invited to the premiere at Disneyland, and they

493
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Speaker 5: shut down the whole park, so the red carpet, the

494
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Speaker 5: press line was all the way down Main Street and

495
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Speaker 5: then we turned left into Adventure Land and the whole

496
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Speaker 5: thing was closed off. And there were literally people at

497
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Speaker 5: Disneyland begging us to go on their rides because there

498
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Speaker 5: was nobody else there. So like Big Thunder Mountain and

499
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Speaker 5: Pirates of the Caribbean and all these great rides we

500
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Speaker 5: got to ride. And then they premiered the movie on

501
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Speaker 5: Tom Sawyer's Island on a huge screen, but we were

502
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Speaker 5: sitting out in front of Pirates of the Caribbean on

503
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Speaker 5: these cool bleachers. So we watched the movie and then

504
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Speaker 5: at the end of the show, at the end of

505
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Speaker 5: the movie, you walk out and they hand you a

506
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Speaker 5: video game. At the Pirates of the Caribbean video game

507
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Speaker 5: and you get in a limo and they drive you

508
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Speaker 5: down Main Street of Disneyland and then take you home.

509
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Speaker 5: That was rad the hardest part, the worst part about

510
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Speaker 5: being famous. Stalker. We had a stalker for a while.

511
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Speaker 5: That was a bum out.

512
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Speaker 1: You wrote it by that, Yeah that, Yeah, that sucks.

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Speaker 1: We've had that issue too, because it feels like you're

514
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Speaker 1: not in control. I didn't realize that until it just

515
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Speaker 1: feels like you're not. It's you stay your whole life

516
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Speaker 1: trying to control everything and then all of a sudden

517
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Speaker 1: you're not in control. Like that sucks.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yep, Okay.

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Speaker 1: My final cliche question, how important is it to you

520
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Speaker 1: the people do lowercase B and the dash in Blake

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Speaker 1: one eighty two.

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Speaker 4: It's important. I would say it's an eight out of

523
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Speaker 4: ten importance.

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Speaker 5: Wow, it's not necessary, but it's like it's like, yeah,

525
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Speaker 5: that's what it's supposed to be.

526
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Speaker 4: But you know how people can write it however they want.

527
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Speaker 5: You know, people overseas say Blink one eight two instead

528
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Speaker 5: of Blink one eighty two, and it's always a point

529
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Speaker 5: of contention we go over season like, well, what are

530
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Speaker 5: you supposed to say?

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Speaker 4: Blink one?

532
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Speaker 5: A two or one eighty two, and it's one eighty

533
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Speaker 5: two to us. But as long as you're talking about us,

534
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Speaker 5: that's all we care about.

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Speaker 1: My producer Mike, you're his favorite band of all time.

536
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Speaker 1: Mike has got a couple of questions. Mike, Hey, Mark,

537
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Speaker 1: huge fan.

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Speaker 2: I've only ever cried once in concert, and it was

539
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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three when I saw you guys play,

540
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Speaker 2: and it was the intro you did for Adams song

541
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Speaker 2: like that's my favorite bliek Man song.

542
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Speaker 1: Has that song kind.

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Speaker 2: Of changed for you from when you first wrote it

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Speaker 2: to now to kind of having a different meaning to you.

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Speaker 4: I mean, but it met the world to me when

546
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Speaker 4: I wrote it.

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Speaker 5: It was a song that I wrote it a very

548
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Speaker 5: dark point during the period of time between Dude Ranch

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Speaker 5: and and of the State where our band was starting

550
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Speaker 5: to get successful. But I would come home and I

551
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Speaker 5: would be totally alone and feel alone, and we go

552
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Speaker 5: out on tour and I'd feel fulfilled and whole, and

553
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Speaker 5: then I'd go home and I'd feel empty again. So

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Speaker 5: I wrote that song and it meant a lot up

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Speaker 5: to me because I was honest with pain and depression.

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Speaker 5: And then as I've gone through life and gone back

557
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Speaker 5: to that song, and especially when the band got back

558
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Speaker 5: together after I was sick and we were playing this

559
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Speaker 5: song that meant so much to me. I would walk

560
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Speaker 5: on stage and say, very honestly, like, this song saved

561
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Speaker 5: my life once and this band saved my life a

562
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Speaker 5: second time.

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Speaker 4: So it like it.

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Speaker 5: It's almost now like it means so much to me

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Speaker 5: that I don't want to play it and I always

566
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Speaker 5: find excuses to not play it because I get in

567
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Speaker 5: my own head when I do.

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Speaker 1: The other part that's I got to be able to

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Speaker 1: the book.

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Speaker 2: We talked about it earlier about you begging your dad

571
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Speaker 2: to get you a bass, like I did the same

572
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Speaker 2: thing because I saw Blinklin eighty two and I was like,

573
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Speaker 2: I got to play guitar with my brother. He's like,

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Speaker 2: all right, we got to convince our parents he got

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Speaker 2: a bass. So we learned playing guitar and bass by

576
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Speaker 2: getting tabs off the internet. For you, what are your

577
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Speaker 2: top four blank n eighty two bass lines?

578
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Speaker 5: Top four blank great two bass lines? I would say

579
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Speaker 5: the bass line in Mutt I Love. I would save

580
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Speaker 5: the bassline and feeling this that I love dysenteria. Gary's

581
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Speaker 5: a lot of fun to play and what's the forth? Oh,

582
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Speaker 5: wishing Well?

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Speaker 4: No Carousel. All.

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Speaker 5: Carousel's a good one, but that one. The intro is

585
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 5: hard to play, and I love that bassline. And it's

586
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Speaker 5: literally the song that Tom and I wrote the first

587
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Speaker 5: time that we got in a room together.

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Speaker 4: I'll bump with Carousel though too.

589
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 5: Sure, let's kick out, Let's kick out wishing Well and

590
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Speaker 5: we'll put Carousel in.

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Speaker 1: I like the mic change Mark's mind. That's the funniest thing.

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Speaker 1: Final two questions. Were you at all concerned that when

593
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Speaker 1: you were united people wouldn't come?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think always that, But it wasn't about the

595
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Speaker 5: people coming back. What it was important to us was

596
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 5: that the three of us were continuing to do what

597
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Speaker 5: we love, which is playing Blink oninty two songs and

598
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Speaker 5: writing new songs. When we got back together, there wasn't

599
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Speaker 5: even in talk about like we're going to tour and

600
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Speaker 5: play these songs. It was like, we're gonna get in

601
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Speaker 5: a studio and write a new record and keep doing

602
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Speaker 5: what we love and keep writing new things and keep

603
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Speaker 5: pushing forward.

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Speaker 4: So it wasn't so much about like.

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, we want a bunch of people to

606
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 5: come and watch us play shows. We do, obviously, but

607
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 5: we want people to come and listening to new stuff

608
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Speaker 5: as well as old stuff. So yeah, I think that

609
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Speaker 5: we were less concerned about the people being there and

610
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Speaker 5: more being true to ourselves.

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Speaker 1: My final question. You wrote about this in your book

612
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: as about you and Tom going from best friends to

613
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Speaker 1: being not even on speaking terms. So and you talked

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Speaker 1: about just communicating by email only, Like, what is the

615
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Speaker 1: communication like now between you two? On a personal level, we.

616
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Speaker 5: Text all the time, whether it be about you know, uh,

617
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 5: blink blink stuff or just jokes or memes or memories

618
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Speaker 5: or whatnot, talking about everything. Really, I'll just call Tom

619
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Speaker 5: up and I'll be like, what are you doing? And

620
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Speaker 5: I called him like last week, I'm like, what are

621
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Speaker 5: you doing right now? And it's like nothing, I'm literally

622
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Speaker 5: sitting in my yard watching my dogs run around. And

623
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Speaker 5: so then we just talked about dogs for a while.

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Speaker 1: So it's now it's just totally normal cool.

625
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, it's better than normal cool, like you know,

626
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 5: like all brothers again.

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Speaker 1: Books fantastic, hope everybody reads it. Fahrenheit one eighty two

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Speaker 1: with a dash, though, Fahrenheit Dash one eighty two. We

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Speaker 1: got to make sure that, Yeah, that's the Yeah, yeah, fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Hey massive fan, we're both massive fans. Thank you for

631
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: the time, Mark, congratulations on a wonderful book. And yeah,

632
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 1: just I don't know what else say except massive fan.

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00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: I guess I'm not gonna see you because you're not here,

634
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,360
Speaker 1: but massive fan. I'll just end with that. Mark, thank

635
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Speaker 1: you for your time, Buddy.

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Speaker 4: Thanks Bobby and I talk with you. Really appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: See Mark.

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Speaker 8: The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the

639
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Speaker 8: Bobby Cast.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 1: So bands that changed their lead singers for better or worse,

642
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 1: and it can be because somebody died because they got

643
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 1: in a fight. I can give you a couple examples

644
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: and why I actually am bringing this up and you

645
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: had no knowledge of this topic, which is my favorite

646
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: way to do music topics with you, because you have

647
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: a lot of music knowledge and I really just wonder

648
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Speaker 1: what comes to your mind. And I say that, so

649
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: give me a band that comes to your mind. Van Halen, Okay.

650
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 1: Van Halen started with.

651
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 3: David Lee Roth, then went to Sammy Hagar. Can you

652
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Speaker 3: name the third no clue? This singer for ext.

653
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Speaker 1: Gary Sharon, who is a singer of Extreme.

654
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Speaker 3: But yeah, and that was did they even do an album?

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Speaker 3: I have no idea. I don't even know how long

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Speaker 3: he lasted.

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00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: I think so, but not long.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So van Halen one of the ones on my list

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Speaker 1: for sure.

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Speaker 3: Which is funny because when stuff like that happens, especially

662
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Speaker 3: three lead singers, you start seeing like, all right, common denominator,

663
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Speaker 3: I know who the problem is here?

664
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: The third Sharon kind of doesn't count.

665
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 3: Though now, but but technically he.

666
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: Does, okay, And yeah, the common denominator is it? Oh,

667
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: must be Eddie van Halen.

668
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 3: That's difficult, totally yes. And David Lee Roth, I guess

669
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 3: was the last lead singer. Yeah, he came back and

670
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 3: he came out.

671
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that's just because the guys get

672
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: old and they want to tour, and nobody will come

673
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: with Gary Sharon as the lead singer. Who did you

674
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: like best? Because I think your older brother was a

675
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: van Halen guy. So you listen to a bunch of.

676
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 3: This is just me driving in the passenger seat listening

677
00:28:59,200 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 3: to his music.

678
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: Which van Halen did you like best?

679
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 3: Sammy Hagar? And I think that just is purely just

680
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 3: my age because Sammy Hagar was the one when I

681
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 3: was like in high.

682
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: School and I never listened to Van Halen, so I

683
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: only as I got older and didn't have an older

684
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: brother or an even pushing it down on me. Mine's

685
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: David ly Roth because I got it all at the

686
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: same time basically and just and I love that well

687
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: and that's his solos, but that's him ye solo. So

688
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 1: I was like in love with him. I thought he

689
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: was so cool. So then when it was like Van

690
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: Halen and the lead singer, I like the early stuff better.

691
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: I mean, those are that's just a jiggalo guy was

692
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: doing it.

693
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 3: That's why. I mean those dude, that was Van Halen's prime.

694
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 3: When David Lee Roth was the singer that was That's what.

695
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know.

696
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 9: I think I think David Lee Roth, yes, but who

697
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 9: I would argue that even though Roth David and I

698
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 9: don't want to do a whole Van Hammon podcast because

699
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 9: I'm not knowledgeable enough.

700
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 1: But Sammy Hagar has I think the better song.

701
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 3: You do like which one? Let's let's we can pull

702
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 3: on like right, that's davidly Roth. Oh really yeah?

703
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: So Panama let me read you tell me if you

704
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: can tell me who they are about it? Go okay,

705
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 1: I do like might as well jump jump David Roth.

706
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: Davidly Roth. Yeah, okay, that's That's one of my favorites,

707
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: is Panama? Is that Aily Roth and davidly Roth? Okay,

708
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 1: who did the whole nineteen eighty five album or whatever

709
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: that's called.

710
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 3: That's eighty four. Yeah, davidly Roth.

711
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: Okay, that's a good one.

712
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I'm telling you that that was the prime

713
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 3: Van Halen.

714
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: Okay, but Roth maybe, so maybe that's why I like him,

715
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: just because of all the songs.

716
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 3: I think it's hard for anyone to even name a hit.

717
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:46,239
Speaker 3: When Sammy Hayes, like Cofford Teacher was awesome. Yeah, the motorcycle, Well,

718
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 3: so what did Sammy higgen? What was his right here

719
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 3: right now?

720
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: That was good?

721
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 3: Why can't this be love?

722
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: Yeah?

723
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 3: If that kind of stuff? Okay, I don't know, like

724
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 3: maybe five songs, a handful of songs that were pretty

725
00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 3: Oh he did like the song that that played during

726
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 3: Twist the movie, remember the movie Twister? The first one

727
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 3: of the the first one. Oh yeah, no, I couldn't

728
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 3: even tell you how it goes.

729
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: Okay, I have a list. I'll tell you why this

730
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: comes up. We were putting together our million dollars show

731
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: that we did now it's been a couple of months ago.

732
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: We have a lot of acts that come in and

733
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: perform with us, and they kind of rotated it out.

734
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: And every year we look for bands that aren't country,

735
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: like this year we had O Town and they were

736
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: straight pop. In the past, though, we've done like better

737
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: than Ezra, We've done Three Doors Down, Licked Yes, Scott

738
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: stat So the Fray doesn't have their lead singer anymore,

739
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: but they're the bald guy he quit. I don't know

740
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: what the deal was, but I was watching an interview

741
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: where like the guitar players now the lead singer, and

742
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: I was considering reaching out to the Fray, and I

743
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: thought to myself, I don't know.

744
00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't know.

745
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: I was kind kind of unfairly turned off without even

746
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: giving it a chance, because I was like, if we're

747
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: going to reach out to the Fray and it's not

748
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: the lead singer that sang all the hits.

749
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 3: And I couldn't tell you his name or anything about him,

750
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 3: but bald a white ball. That's all I know. But

751
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 3: I would know if they showed up and it wasn't him,

752
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 3: I would know that.

753
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: And I was listening to an interview with the now

754
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: lead singer, but the guitar player going, you know, we

755
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: were nervous. I'm looking for a new lead singer, and

756
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: I was like, well, let me try it, and like

757
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: I admire all of that and nothing because you got

758
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: to pay the bills. Why I'd be the bills as

759
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: the fray if it's still the band. But I I

760
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: didn't even pursue the ask, and they probably would have

761
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: said no, or we can't or but I was like,

762
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: you know, if the pray shows up and it's not

763
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: the main guy, I think could will be disappointed.

764
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 3: Right, I agree, I completely agree.

765
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: I'd be disappointed me too, and unfair. So that's what

766
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: led me to this idea of bands that changed their

767
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: lead singers for better or for worse, and all my list.

768
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: Van Halen is at number two, oh good, okay, at

769
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: number one, well, it's Genesis, oh right, and the age

770
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: old story of Peter Gabriel was the original singer and

771
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: their drummer was Phil Collins, and it was they were

772
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: looking for a lead singer and Phil Collins just kept

773
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: singing basically behind the kit, and so they changed and

774
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: they arguably became a bigger band with Phil Collins as

775
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: the lead singer.

776
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 3: Interesting, yes, but I didn't know that. I didn't know

777
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 3: that he quit. I guess I never knew that part.

778
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 3: I thought the band broke up and Peter Gabriel they

779
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 3: just kept going with Phil Collins. I didn't know that.

780
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: I didn't listen quit or fired, don't know, but they changed.

781
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: So from what I read looking into this for this

782
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: this episode was they were openly looking for a new singer,

783
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: either if they broke up or not. But it ended

784
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: up being Phil Collins, who was behind the kit, who

785
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: really was never going to be a lead singer but

786
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,239
Speaker 1: could obviously sing and then turned into a massive one

787
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: of the biggest the solo stars of the eighties on

788
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: my list this is I'll give you a hint. Lead

789
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:15,760
Speaker 1: singer died uh a non American band. The lead singer

790
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: died in nineteen eighty got it? Who is it?

791
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 3: Queen? No lead singer died in nineteen.

792
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: Died in nineteen eighty. Uh. The lead singer was Bon

793
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: Scott oh a CDC and so Brian Johnson was there

794
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: and is their lead singer.

795
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 3: So was it the same sound? Did did? Did Bon?

796
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: Yes? So Bon Scott was very yes, but funny to

797
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 1: hear them both.

798
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 3: I do I need to do a deep dive in there.

799
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: Bon Scott definitely has that sound. And I heard an

800
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: old commercial with Brian Johnson, who's the lead singer who

801
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: was singing on a TV commercial before he got an

802
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: a CDC, and it didn't sound like the Brian Johnson

803
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: and we know as a CDC. So from my perspective,

804
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: if I have to speculate, I think his singing style

805
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: is very derivative of what Bond Scott's was because ac

806
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 1: DC sounded like that.

807
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 3: That's they were known for that.

808
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:16,919
Speaker 1: Yes, So the first album with Brian Johnson was Back

809
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: in Black, one of the best selling albums of all time.

810
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: So that wasn't that we're going to replace our guy.

811
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: That's like he died and let's find something and then

812
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 1: exploded with him the new guy as a lead singer,

813
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: but also sounded like the old singer. Journey's at four

814
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 1: on my list.

815
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that was a big deal.

816
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: So and and it's not always about it's succeeding. It's

817
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: like when I think of bands that replaced their lead

818
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: singer period and Journey had Steve Perry and they got

819
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: the guy from YouTube.

820
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. Was it an audition or does it?

821
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 3: Just like, let's try this guy.

822
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: Arnel Pineda was his name. Not sure how they came

823
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:59,240
Speaker 1: across his YouTube video, but he sounds just like Steve

824
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 1: Perry does, doesn't look like him. I think it's dark fella. Well,

825
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: his name is Arnelle Pinata. I think he's from a

826
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: Latin American.

827
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, he might be Filipino.

828
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: I think that's it.

829
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 3: Okay, right is right?

830
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: And as you as a dark fellow, only you could

831
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: say say that, yes, I can't say okay, I can't

832
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: go dark fellah, but yes, I knew he was. Uh,

833
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: what's his name is? Pinatas?

834
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 3: What's Latin? Right? Right? Which you know Filipino's Latin, same

835
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 3: same deal. But like, what's funny about about that? It

836
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 3: is like, you know big Head Todd in The Monster. Uh,

837
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 3: I saw him on YouTube just the other night, and

838
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 3: I'm like, that guy is not what I thought. He

839
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 3: looked like.

840
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:48,399
Speaker 1: He is also from a different I can't can't play

841
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: some right now. Okay, I don't know what.

842
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 3: He's but that was weird too, because we when someone

843
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 3: sounds like Steve Perry and he looks very different than

844
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:57,720
Speaker 3: Steve Perry.

845
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: That's a shock for those maybe if you stroubled into

846
00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 1: the podcast. Eddie is a dark fellow, so he can say.

847
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 3: That I'm hispanic.

848
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: Yes, he's lighter than you though.

849
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we're like the same couple.

850
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 1: Steve Perry was a white guy.

851
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a very white guy.

852
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: But Piet's voice is shockingly similar.

853
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 3: I know, man, he's so good.

854
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: Black Sabbath. Yeah, can you name the elite singer the

855
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: original Azzi? Right?

856
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:25,760
Speaker 3: But who took his place?

857
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: So Ronnie James Dio and who was also like a

858
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: rocker himself.

859
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 3: He was Hispanic, kidd, I have no idea. Oh I

860
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 3: did not dark fella, no idea. I see again, I

861
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 3: didn't know that Black Sabbath carried on. I thought Ozzie

862
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 3: just left and they broke up, and then Ozzy did

863
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:44,240
Speaker 3: his thing.

864
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 1: And they were critically and musically strong even after Ozzy

865
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 1: did his thing. Heaven and Hell was the album that

866
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: was kind of a reinvention. Hardcore fans love Ozzy because

867
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: he was Black Sabbath, but also do respect d O

868
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, in excess. Oh gosh, do you remember

869
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 1: the original he he died, right? I believe he was

870
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: like hanging. He like whacked off. Why hanging himself to

871
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: a phyxiation thing doing the thing? Yeah, you may google that,

872
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 1: that was the I choke it. Yeah, it's almost like

873
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: people pumping their stomachs, like we heard every art of

874
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 1: that to pump their stomach. Wait, so I don't know

875
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: if that's true. What do I google?

876
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:23,879
Speaker 4: Again?

877
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: Google Michael Hutchins in excess death death like how he died?

878
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: So I remember this TV show? So they did a

879
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: reality show to find a new lead singer, and j

880
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: D Fortune was the guy. J D Fortune very unsuccessful,

881
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 1: did not work at all. They never recovered from Hutchins's death,

882
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 1: and then reality TV didn't help the credibility of it.

883
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: But I have that on my list.

884
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 3: But a great idea, trying to find a new lead singer.

885
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: What do you see you read over there?

886
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 10: Yeah, he died from hanging, but does it say while

887
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 10: he was he didn't say specifics here, that's good enough.

888
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:05,479
Speaker 10: What was with hanging from Yeah, parents' suicide but doesn't

889
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 10: say anything.

890
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: Oh well, suicide's different though, because if it's suicide, that's

891
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:08,720
Speaker 1: not that.

892
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 3: Well right, right, That's what I'm saying. I think the

893
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 3: theory was just that he was doing that. But if

894
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 3: the I think the corner or whatever, the.

895
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: We're not questioning anybody. We don't care that much to

896
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: question the judgment of the correct read.

897
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 10: It also says they resulted from an act of auto eroticism.

898
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 3: That's it.

899
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 1: That's choking yourself all back.

900
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 3: And you have a good point though that if it

901
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 3: is that auto eroticism, whatever, then it's not suicide. Correct.

902
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 3: You weren't trying to kill yourself. You're trying to do

903
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 3: something else.

904
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: And there've got to be some factors because it's not

905
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,760
Speaker 1: like you never mind. We just got to move on because.

906
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 3: I've man, this is so interesting though. Hey, when we're

907
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 3: done with this, can we talk more about it? No?

908
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: Actually even weirder Alice in.

909
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 3: Chains, Yeah, Elaine Staley, he died, he died overdose.

910
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: Any chance you know they were replaced him with.

911
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 3: It wasn't Jerry control, was.

912
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: It William Duvall and that work They did fair but

913
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 1: and they made okay albums and.

914
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 3: And Jerry Kintrell had a pretty good career at that.

915
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: I think William Duvall is still touring with them.

916
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 3: Really, I didn't even know they toured. They probably do

917
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 3: a cruise or something right, who doesn't the Grunge Tour,

918
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 3: the Grunge Cruise, Stone Table Pilots, Yeah, Scott Wiland and

919
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,760
Speaker 3: then he dies and then who took his place?

920
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 1: Chester Bennington? Really and then Jeff gutt about that sounds familiar?

921
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: Mixed result, They kept going with the original Chrismon sound

922
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: never quite returned. I loved Stuontible Pilots, you did, Yeah,

923
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: loved them. They were to me top five I won't

924
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm doing the top my favorite,

925
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: but top five nineties alternative bands that remind me of

926
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: that era, Like if you were to go, who were

927
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: those bands that defined that time? Which was like for

928
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,439
Speaker 1: me right in a country and alternative it's STPs there.

929
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 3: Did you like Velvet Revolver?

930
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: No? I didn't.

931
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 3: Actually there is different, sounded very different than Stunt Tuble Pilot.

932
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: Speak and Velvet Revolver had as the lead singer Scott

933
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: Scott Island and so because that he left before he died,

934
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: Yeah he did, and it was they didn't have any

935
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: of my hits, so I guess not. It was just

936
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 1: like a band of other band members it.

937
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 3: I can't tell you that was never a guns and Roses. Guy,

938
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 3: did you know that Scott Wiland was a and I

939
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 3: might be saying it right, Scott Whalan Scott Wiland, Yeah,

940
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 3: he was a good football player.

941
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 1: I didn't know that.

942
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 3: Like, uh, I think he's just like a really good

943
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 3: football player.

944
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: On my TikTok, I'll get a bunch of nineties acoustic

945
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: alternative bands like man, you talk about a distinct, really

946
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 1: pure voice, but very distinct. Oh yeah, it is awesome

947
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,720
Speaker 1: and like you watch him do acoustic I am smelled

948
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: in like a rose at somebody Gabe or Plush was

949
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 1: so good as a studio song, but when they recorded

950
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: an acoustic it became a hit again.

951
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 3: They released an acoustic any song.

952
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 1: Called it is Awesome So good.

953
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 7: Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor,

954
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 7: and we're back on the Bobby Cast.

955
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 1: The Doobie Brothers, Oh god.

956
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 3: The only I only know Michael McDonald and he wasn't

957
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 3: the original. I couldn't really even tell you.

958
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have either. I wouldn't have known from Tom

959
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 1: Johnston to Michael McDonald.

960
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,760
Speaker 3: Was there any Doobie Jim Dooby.

961
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: I don't think that's the purpose of the name, that

962
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 1: it's like a Van Halen. I think it's a reference

963
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: to something else shifted from rock to like soul, like

964
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 1: the Doobie Brothers ended up with Michael McDonald and it

965
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,919
Speaker 1: being a bit more of what they would call yacht

966
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: rock ish now. Yeah, but the hits kept coming, so

967
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: they had hit so like in Dixie Land.

968
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 3: And uh those songs, that's the old Doobie Brothers before

969
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 3: they turn into a yacht rock gond takes.

970
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: If I weren't guessing, I would think a lot of that,

971
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: Oh sweet are yeah hippy?

972
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 3: Won't you keep on?

973
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 1: I would imagine that that's a lot of Tom Johnson.

974
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 3: But we could have reasons with that.

975
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 1: I think that's right because the seventies long haired hippie

976
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: sound feels to me like Tom Johnson.

977
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, different than what you see what you here.

978
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 1: Now Leonard Skinnard, Oh yeah, Ronnie van sent original Dina

979
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: Plane Crash, Johnny van Zent his brother, you know. As

980
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: a legacy act, it's been successful. It's not like they've

981
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: had other hits, but they have been able to continue

982
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: on and tour. And also because it's family, sure, it

983
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 1: feels more credible.

984
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 3: It does. It does, and they still dress the same

985
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 3: as Ronnie did, because I think that was Ronnie style,

986
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 3: that hat in the leather. But his brother sounds just

987
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 3: like him, you know, like when when I see them

988
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 3: now and like I've never seen him live, but you

989
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 3: think you watch them on TV or whatever do performances.

990
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 1: They do, they're on TV.

991
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, like you know how they'll be an Awards show

992
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 3: where like led Zeppelin plays or New York. I'm talking

993
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 3: about Skinner though specific I'm sorry, I'm sorry Skinner Skinner

994
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 3: and like even they played the New Year's uh the

995
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:19,879
Speaker 3: Nashville New.

996
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: Year's party Skinner did on TV.

997
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 3: Skinner played on TV. Yeah, and he sounds like his.

998
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 1: Brother, so creatively, it's not like that had any hits.

999
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,280
Speaker 1: But again, the brand and they've been able to tour

1000
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: and continue to make money.

1001
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:35,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty good.

1002
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 1: Audio Slave Chris Cornell, so yeah, it kind of reversed.

1003
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 1: But yeah, Chris Cornell, who is in Soundgarden, and that

1004
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: was a kind of audio slave to me is kind

1005
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: of like Velvet.

1006
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 3: Revolver though it was it was what a supergroup, that's

1007
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:57,720
Speaker 3: exactly what it's called. So so once he died, they

1008
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 3: they substituted someone else in there, another lead singer of

1009
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 3: audio Slave. Yeah, I don't understand because the whole thing

1010
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 3: is about like replaced lead singers, right.

1011
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: Yes, but this was kind of this was a reverse one.

1012
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 1: So so audio Slave and Chris Cornell who was in Soundgarden,

1013
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,439
Speaker 1: who went from sound Garden to audio Slave and then

1014
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: two the band and Rage against the Machine.

1015
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 3: That's audio Slave, that's part of right, that's audio Slave. Yeah,

1016
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 3: audio Slave was raised. Yeah whatever, yeah, yeah, yeah, there

1017
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 3: there were both of them.

1018
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: It was kind of a boat. One lost lead singer,

1019
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: one lead singer from another went to the lost lead singer.

1020
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: But they made a new band instead of it being

1021
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: what I would have called them, Sound against the Machine.

1022
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 3: Did anyone think of that?

1023
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: I'm sure they did. But but again, you have two

1024
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: brands pretty amazing. You have the lead singer from one

1025
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: big brand and the band from another, and then you

1026
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: pick a whole new name. And do you think they

1027
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: all were just lost in being so successful? They just

1028
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: thought it would just work, I guess.

1029
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 3: And it was cool because Chris Cornell again, unlike Velvet Revolver,

1030
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 3: which was so different, the STP's sound from Velvet Revolver

1031
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 3: was so different. Velvet Revolver was a lot heavier, but

1032
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 3: audio Slave with Tom Morello definitely different music sound, but

1033
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 3: once you have Chris Cornell because because Soundgarden was hard

1034
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 3: Black Holes Sun, some of their stuff like spoon Man

1035
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,399
Speaker 3: is heavy, So the transition from Soundgarden to Audio Slave

1036
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 3: wasn't too different, and it sounded almost the same, but

1037
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 3: with Tom Morello's like weird guitar sounds like rages.

1038
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: Yes, the only song that I really remember from Audio Slave.

1039
00:46:48,960 --> 00:47:02,760
Speaker 11: Is Knocker Loer Stone. No, yeah, that's a good one.

1040
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 1: Us. Let's see, I got a couple more here, queen.

1041
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: So Freddie Murcury died Paul Rodgers for a bit, but

1042
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: then Adam Lambert Paul Rodgers meant but Adam Lambert a success,

1043
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,399
Speaker 1: not so much in putting out new music, but much

1044
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: like Skinner did, except without the blood like the blood

1045
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: relative like they they had credibility and toured again one

1046
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: because Adam Lambert could really.

1047
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 3: Sash, he really could sounded just like him.

1048
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 1: So he modernized the live act and allowed them to

1049
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 1: keep touring, and people didn't feel like they had just

1050
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: put something together for just money, right, because Adam Lambert

1051
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:38,720
Speaker 1: was that good and.

1052
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 3: Weird at first, right, like weird at first because Queen

1053
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 3: was such a legendary rock band, but then after a

1054
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 3: while and got normal, like pretty normal, you're gonna go

1055
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,760
Speaker 3: see Queen. Yeah, not even mentioned that Adam Lambert is singing,

1056
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 3: just like, oh cool, let's just go see Queen.

1057
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 1: Well, I guess I don't know anybody that ever saw

1058
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,959
Speaker 1: Queen with him. No your house, Queen.

1059
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 3: No. But what I'm saying is like you would always

1060
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 3: be like, oh yeah, Queen with Adam Lambert from American Idol,

1061
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 3: to like just it being normal, Yeah, just Queen. You

1062
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 3: already know who the lead singer is. Obviously it's not

1063
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:09,959
Speaker 3: Freddie Mercury.

1064
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: Out of respect, I would always say Queen with Adam

1065
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: Lambert because Freddy deserved more, but something similar to that.

1066
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,879
Speaker 1: So this has happened a couple different ways. But so

1067
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:22,720
Speaker 1: Sublime originally with Brett oh yeah, and then he dies

1068
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: and then it becomes Sublime with Rome yeah yep. And

1069
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 1: so Sublime with Rome continued to tour relatively well, but

1070
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:38,720
Speaker 1: they didn't have, at least that I know of, many

1071
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:40,879
Speaker 1: massive or even big songs.

1072
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 3: News.

1073
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,320
Speaker 1: I don't want to speak for like all of alternative

1074
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 1: because I think I missed that. But now they've kind

1075
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,280
Speaker 1: of switched singers again, and now this is cool. Bradley

1076
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:50,439
Speaker 1: Nold's son is the lead singer.

1077
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 3: That's really cool. And who who sounds like him looks

1078
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 3: like him is pretty cool. Probably pretty cool for the

1079
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 3: band members too, to have something have that. I think

1080
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:04,760
Speaker 3: pretty for the band members because it gives a spark

1081
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 3: to touring again and for them to make money again,

1082
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 3: because how many time you're going to see.

1083
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: Sublime with Rome? Three times to watch Sublime with not

1084
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: even the original lead singer.

1085
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 3: But see, they never went to just let's go see Sublime.

1086
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:18,760
Speaker 3: It was let's.

1087
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: Always Sublime with that was their name though it was

1088
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: their name.

1089
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1090
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 1: Another one in my final one and read I want

1091
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 1: you to look up Doobie brother songs with the different

1092
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,760
Speaker 1: lead singers, because I at least want to be semi accurate.

1093
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 3: Before we.

1094
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: Hang up, I like, this is the phone before we

1095
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,760
Speaker 1: hang up the phone, thank you? Is the Bare Naked Ladies.

1096
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: So they had too, They had two. They had this

1097
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: singer Steven and they kind of also singer but the

1098
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: rapper Ed, and I think Stephen got some trouble want

1099
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: to leave the band that kicked him out. Ed's been

1100
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: doing it for the last over a decade, so.

1101
00:49:55,760 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 3: That it's been is different than the Jeopardy China, the China,

1102
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 3: He's chicken, two different guys. Yeah, I didn't know that.

1103
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 1: And so Steven was a really great pure singer and

1104
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: Ed was a good singer, but would do a lot

1105
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: of that goofy the rapping stuff. But now Ed does

1106
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: almost all the lead vocals. And you really and I'm

1107
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:16,919
Speaker 1: a Bear Naked Ladies fan, you can still really enjoy

1108
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 1: Bear Naked Lady show.

1109
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 3: I would think so like stuff.

1110
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 1: To like, uh, you know, went to the old apartment.

1111
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: This is where we used to live, Like that's all

1112
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 1: the old school.

1113
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 3: You're a big fan.

1114
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 1: I love Bear Naked Ladies. You do read what do

1115
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: you have for us?

1116
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 7: All right?

1117
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 10: So which song are you?

1118
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:35,720
Speaker 8: Are you talking about?

1119
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: So I don't know what do you have over there?

1120
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 10: So I mean we got uh, let's see what a

1121
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 10: full Believes. That's Michael McDonald, Okay, And then we got

1122
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 10: walk this Road is uh Mavis Staples.

1123
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: Mavis Mavis never an elite singer of the Doobie Brothers.

1124
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 3: No, I think that's maybe a feature.

1125
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 10: Maybe yeah, yeah, it's a feature, Okay, Yeah, talking it Yeah,

1126
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 10: taking it to the streets is Michael McDonald.

1127
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: Okay, we'll look for some Tom Johnson or Michael McDonald,

1128
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: one of the twos. See.

1129
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 10: Tom Johnson is China growth.

1130
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: There we go, whoa, whoa, China grow. That's more than seventies.

1131
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 10: Tom Johnson is a long train running, okay and listening

1132
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 10: to the music.

1133
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 1: Whoa, whoa listen to the music. We're right, yeah, Tom Johnson.

1134
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 4: Jesus is just alright.

1135
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 1: Jesus is just alright with me. Jesus is just alright.

1136
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, South City Midnight Lady is Patrick Simmons.

1137
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 3: Don't know that guy.

1138
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,479
Speaker 1: It probably one of the other Dudie brothers they give.

1139
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 4: A song to.

1140
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know any other Tom Johnson hits that

1141
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 1: you see there.

1142
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 10: Let's see pretty much just Michael McDonald after that, and

1143
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 10: then Patrick.

1144
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 1: Simmons, classic Patrick. Sometimes they just give another guy in

1145
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 1: the band a song, like Ringo, like Ringo, but Ringo

1146
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 1: at least wrote some of his like hits too for

1147
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 1: the which is cool of the.

1148
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 3: Beatles, right, yes, to be like none know, We're like

1149
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 3: we're the songwriters here.

1150
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 1: No.

1151
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:04,439
Speaker 3: They it's like, hey, did you write a song?

1152
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 1: Pretty cool and we like it and we're gonna record

1153
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: it and we'll make it a single, because singles they

1154
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: pressed on vinyl. One. Yeah, I used to go to

1155
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: goog Doll shows whenever they were close.

1156
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 3: I didn't know this about you.

1157
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: I love the Goo Dolls like loved and loved that

1158
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 1: Johnny never met him. Have probably been to conservatively speaking,

1159
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 1: eight Google. That's a lot conservatively speaking, yet wow. But

1160
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:33,359
Speaker 1: they would always have the best bass players sing like

1161
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 1: a song.

1162
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 3: Every record was that time to go to the bathroom.

1163
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 1: It was awful. It was not very good, and it

1164
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 1: would always be like a little harder and he'd be like,

1165
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,399
Speaker 1: it's just weird. So sometimes bands will just let other

1166
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 1: guys sing, uh, and we'll end in this and on this.

1167
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 1: Who have you seen the most in concert? Ever? And

1168
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 1: if we're just roughly guessing numbers, how many times do

1169
00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 1: you think you've seen them?

1170
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm trying to think. I'm only taking a

1171
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 3: second because I'm trying to see you. There's any more

1172
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 3: than think about it.

1173
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: I can do mine because I know who I've seen

1174
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 1: the most. So I would say at this point because

1175
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 1: for a long time it'll been my number two, but

1176
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:19,720
Speaker 1: I think John Mayer now is number one. Probably eleven

1177
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 1: or twelve concerts, but like an acl Live, like I

1178
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 1: would go to that taping. I count that as a

1179
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: show because he played right. It wasn't just bought ticket.

1180
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 1: I bought a bunch of tickets. I've been to a

1181
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: bunch of shows. John Mayer is at one at two

1182
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 1: in two A because I saw them twice together food Fighters,

1183
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 1: I would put food Fighters at two. I'm probably near

1184
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: ten food Fighter concerts.

1185
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 3: Wow, that's a lot. That's almost Google Google doll numbers. Well,

1186
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:48,760
Speaker 3: you know a little bit more than Google Google doll.

1187
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:50,760
Speaker 1: Right below food Fighters Chili Peppers.

1188
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:51,320
Speaker 3: Oh wow.

1189
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 1: And they toured together for a while, so that counts yeap,

1190
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 1: and then probably Google Dolls.

1191
00:53:58,960 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 3: That is so surprise.

1192
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 1: That's like eight.

1193
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 3: I've known you for a long long time and I

1194
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:06,439
Speaker 3: did not know that about you. We didn't see Google

1195
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 3: dolls together, did we know? Okay, because we went to

1196
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 3: that nineties I went.

1197
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 1: I took Nikita to see Google dolls because in Nashville. Yeah,

1198
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 1: because Nikita had just moved to play with us to

1199
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 1: the Raging Idiots, and I don't even think she kne

1200
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: who they were. That's and she didn't have any friends.

1201
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: And I was like I'm going to watch the Googoo

1202
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 1: Dolls by myself. I didn't bought a ticket yet, my

1203
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 1: favorite band, and so she was from Australia and she

1204
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 1: came and we went.

1205
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 3: You like it?

1206
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 1: I don't think she was.

1207
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 3: Liked it on the base of the bass playing.

1208
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 1: So that's the one song she liked was when the

1209
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: Bass Good? Yeah, in country acts. I don't know if

1210
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 1: that counts as much. Like, But I also don't think

1211
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 1: I don't have as many because I haven't paid. I

1212
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 1: just don't go to concerts anymore, almost never because either

1213
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 1: working or we're selling music that we don't really go

1214
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: to many shows. Yeah, but maybe Garth three or four?

1215
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,399
Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, I think I have three gross shows.

1216
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 1: Yeah my belt. Who would be the top of your list?

1217
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 3: It's got to be Pearl Jam. I've probably seen Pearl

1218
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 3: Jam ten good, maybe eleven.

1219
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, your number one should be ten or more. Yeah,

1220
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 1: at our age and for as long as they've been around, yeah,

1221
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 1: I think.

1222
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 3: And they're coming in May, so let's just make it

1223
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 3: twelve because I'm going, which if everything works out and

1224
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 3: I'm here in town. Like because for the for the

1225
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 3: past six or seven years, every time Pearl Jam has

1226
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 3: come to Nashville. I've been out of town, which is

1227
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 3: just makes me upset even I think Eddie Vedder played

1228
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 3: one of what's the one? He played the operation that that,

1229
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 3: but I wouldn't hear for that. The festival they do

1230
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 3: in Franklin, m Pilgrimage, Eddie Vedder played the Pilgrimage. I

1231
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 3: wasn't here.

1232
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: Do you ever want to go see just Eddie Vedder?

1233
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 3: Though, absolutely I've seen him. I've seen Eddie Vedder like

1234
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 3: three times.

1235
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: Does he do Pearl Jams songs?

1236
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 3: Yes, and he does them either acoustically or with a ukulele,

1237
00:55:58,800 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 3: but he does enough.

1238
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, hell, they'll do better man, He'll do the don't

1239
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 1: call Me daughter.

1240
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 3: No, I don't think he's done. He did daughter, He's

1241
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:12,399
Speaker 3: done like elderly woman behind the counter. He's done better man. Yeah,

1242
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 3: a few other.

1243
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 1: Yellow ledbetter probably yell led better on a ukulele.

1244
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 3: No, I think that one's on acoustic guitar.

1245
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 1: But like, Eddie Vedder's good dude.

1246
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 3: He does a really good live show, and he's got

1247
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 3: enough song I think he has like three four solo albums,

1248
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,879
Speaker 3: so like he's got good songs out there that are

1249
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:29,760
Speaker 3: not Pearl Jam.

1250
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I probably pass on going to Eddie Vedder show

1251
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 1: unless he's gonna do half pearl jam songs. What else

1252
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:34,399
Speaker 1: you got?

1253
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 3: And then probably behind him Bob Schneider in Austin. When

1254
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 3: we lived in Austin, I would go all the times. Honestly,

1255
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 3: I've probably seen Bob Schneider twenty times.

1256
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, he played a lot, he lived there.

1257
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:52,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's just because he's a local.

1258
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 1: Dude. Blue October seventy one times. And we were in Texas.

1259
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 3: Right like Bob Snyder every Friday night anthro like it

1260
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 3: was just a thing.

1261
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 1: Read. Who would you say you've seen the most in concert?

1262
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 2: Dude?

1263
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 10: Honestly, I can't even think of a band that I've

1264
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 10: seen more than once. I've seen a lot of bands

1265
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 10: live once.

1266
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:12,760
Speaker 3: Wait, take that back.

1267
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 10: I saw Kendrick Lamar in Dallas and then at the

1268
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 10: super Bowl.

1269
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 1: If that count.

1270
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 3: That doesn't count. It counts. It's the performance, doesn't con.

1271
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 1: You're not there for them, you're not there for ken.

1272
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: You've not seen anybody twice? Oh man? Who would you

1273
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 1: say your favorite artist of all time is.

1274
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 10: My favorite artist Dickey No Chris Tableton and I still

1275
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 10: haven't even seen him.

1276
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 3: Really, No, you never been.

1277
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 1: You need to get out more.

1278
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 4: No, I haven't.

1279
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 1: I do like he's your favorite of all time? He

1280
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 1: never been to a show?

1281
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 3: No, never been to When did? When did he take

1282
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 3: that crown as your favorite of all time?

1283
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 10: I think when I was in college, when I started

1284
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 10: like wanting to write songs more and I've started to

1285
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 10: appreciate songwriting more, I was like, dang, he is actually

1286
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 10: an incredible songwriter.

1287
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's what he yea, I both right,

1288
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 1: Like I was gonna say that's what he did before

1289
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 1: he made it, but he was trying to make it

1290
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 1: as a part of a band. So but yeah, okay, yeah,

1291
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 1: I didn't even know. Like he opened the door, bring

1292
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 1: him in. He's gonna play for you now here.

1293
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 7: He is Christ Chris, thanks for listening to a Bobby

1294
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 7: Cast production.