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Speaker 2: Welcome to I said, no gift time. I'm Bridger Wine girl.

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Speaker 2: You know that.

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Speaker 2: I hope you're having a nice day. I you know,

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Speaker 2: it's been an interesting morning for me. I've went to

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Speaker 2: The plan was to get my permanent retainer removed today.

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Speaker 2: This has been my post or vaccinated dream to go

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Speaker 2: that's not something they can just do during a dental appointment.

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Speaker 2: That's another appointment you have to schedule. So now I'm

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Speaker 2: So enjoy these last few episodes of me with a

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Speaker 2: permanent retainer because hopefully it'll be gone soon. And please

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Speaker 2: can we move on with the podcast. That's what I

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Speaker 2: just fantastic, none other than zachly Yama. Zach, welcome to

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Speaker 2: I said no gifts.

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Speaker 3: Oh, thank you so much for having me. Bridgart is

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Speaker 3: honestly a true honor to be here.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for being honored to be here. It's the

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Speaker 2: least you could do. Yeah, Zach, how are you doing?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing good. You telling me, You telling the story

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Speaker 3: dentist appointment by email so they wouldn't make me reschedule,

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Speaker 3: which is what happens every time I call or they

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Speaker 2: Wait, so you didn't want to reschedule.

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Speaker 3: I've just been kind of punting a dentist appointment for

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Speaker 3: I don't know about eight months, and I just knew

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Speaker 3: let's just take a little break. I'm brushing my teeth

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Speaker 2: How are you going twice a year?

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Speaker 3: I feel like I'm going seven times a year. But

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Speaker 3: say I thought that, like my my dentists had that

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Speaker 2: Four years. What do you wear it at night? Is

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Now I just wear it at night. But there

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Speaker 2: Right, you would just have a completely restructured skull.

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Speaker 2: So then this other person at the office has taken over. Yes,

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Speaker 3: And maybe that's normal, maybe not. But I really didn't

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Speaker 2: Right, as long as you embrace it, I think that's fine.

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Speaker 2: And I have been defeated, I know, as long as

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Speaker 3: But when I was in college, I broke my jaw.

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Speaker 2: Your jokin like people should know where your jaw is

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Speaker 3: Apparently this, like the doctor in charge of it was like,

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Speaker 2: You can just hear it sizzling in your skull, a

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Speaker 3: Shut? Yeah? I had to be wired shut for about

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Speaker 3: six weeks. Oh, They're like it was just like bracet

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Speaker 2: Oh that's terrible. But yes, it seems like you just

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, hopefully this is the end of that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, something I was going to mention. I saw you

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Speaker 2: I saw you and your wife Phoebe and totally didn't

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Speaker 2: But I want to hear about you.

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Speaker 3: Oh well, yeah. It was something that we had been

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Speaker 3: And yes, and he is like his world of karate,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I'll do. You can kill me, you can

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Speaker 2: What time did need me to be there? That's really wonderful.

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Speaker 2: That is so funny. By the way, Erica, when telling

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Speaker 3: It probably did that because famously, in kindergarten I or

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Speaker 2: Okay, well then she's gotten her revenge. I think that

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Speaker 2: I don't understand what the problem is. We you know,

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Speaker 2: And you walk out and you're holding a large bag,

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Speaker 2: no gifts. You know that. I know that. I assume

438
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 2: all of your neighbors that I interacted with on my

439
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 2: way towards your house know that. But I have so

440
00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 2: I have to ask, is this is a gift for me?

441
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 3: Bridge, that is a gift for you? And I did

442
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,439
Speaker 3: so as a threat at the time, just sort of

443
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:12,400
Speaker 3: something that it felt like a very powerful HBO drama

444
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 3: kind of threatening. I don't know there's some sort of

445
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 3: metaphorical subtext to it, but I was getting you off

446
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 3: my line with.

447
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 2: That is something that is this how you usually get

448
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 2: people off your property and just handing them kind of mysterious,

449
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 2: ominous bag.

450
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 3: Is there anything more ominous and threatening than a gift

451
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 3: handed on your own on your own line.

452
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 2: I don't think there is, at least in my opinion.

453
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 2: I mean, while we're here, should I open it?

454
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, you know, I've cooled down a little bit,

455
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 3: and I hope you can open it and we can

456
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 3: be friends.

457
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:59,400
Speaker 2: I mean I had cooled down, temperature rising again, I'm

458
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 2: going to try to keep things cool.

459
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,640
Speaker 3: Try to shave a memory of that fateful day.

460
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,679
Speaker 2: Yes, of course, Okay, I'm going to open it up.

461
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 2: It's some kind of as I described a wizard's bag.

462
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 2: It's gray, very soft, with some green ribbon. Very nice.

463
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 2: Let's open this up and see what's happening inside.

464
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 3: Hastily packed basically when I ran inside.

465
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 2: All right, let me reach inside here. Okay, I like

466
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 2: to just feel around initially without looking. It's just always

467
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 2: kind of a weird sensation. So I'm feeling like a

468
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 2: piece of cardboard or paper. Initially, I'm going to pull

469
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 2: this out, and is there any order I should? There

470
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 2: are multiple objects in here.

471
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 3: So I think that maybe I think that you can't

472
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 3: go wrong. I think the cardboards maybe first.

473
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 2: Cardboards first. Okay, I did the right thing as usual. Okay,

474
00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 2: Oh what this is so crazy. This is open, So

475
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 2: I swear I did not open this bag prior to

476
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:08,679
Speaker 2: this podcast. This is so weird. So I opened a

477
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 2: The piece of cardboard is like a calendar for world.

478
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 2: O Yama karate. I assume this is your dad.

479
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 3: Is a calendar of my father kicking with all the months,

480
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 3: and it has a few messages on there, because he

481
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 3: has a lot of philosophies he lives by and messages

482
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 3: he really desperately, I mean, he wants everyone to hear

483
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 3: me as his son. He really wants me to hear it,

484
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 3: and so I get a lot of things.

485
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 2: Like that, let me, should I read them? Or do

486
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 2: you want to read them?

487
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 3: Please read them? Yeah?

488
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 2: Okay. It says, so world, are Yama karate? And then

489
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 2: it says put down the cell phone. Just sweat. This

490
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 2: is a registered trademark.

491
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 3: Just sweat is a registered trademark. He almost tried to

492
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,199
Speaker 3: soon Nintendo for a wee game where they say just

493
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 3: sweat what? And I was like, Dad, I don't think

494
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 3: it's a good idea. I don't think it also, I

495
00:25:59,080 --> 00:25:59,919
Speaker 3: don't think it matters.

496
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 2: But what was the video? Kay?

497
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 3: I think it was like a wee fit exercise game

498
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 3: from right, like one of the you know, there's like

499
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 3: something for the Switch now, but this was like one

500
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 3: where you maybe stand on a platform and you do you.

501
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 2: Know the Switch game is frequently a topic of conversation

502
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 2: on this podcast. Oh yes, yeah, okay, So it says

503
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 2: just sweat. Your father is highly litigious. And then there's

504
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 2: one that says a beautiful day and ugly day. All's

505
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 2: up to you. Today is your day?

506
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, there's kind of a little sort of a

507
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 3: little bit of poetry about how you should live your

508
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 3: day and live your life.

509
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 2: That's a good philosophy, Yeah, I think it is. Wait,

510
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 2: so I want to know why you gave this to me?

511
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 3: Well, I really struggled with what would be my gift.

512
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:55,400
Speaker 3: I have right a few options that one thing i'd well, yeah,

513
00:26:55,440 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 3: some things I decided for various reasons. What and bedn't

514
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 3: be the thing? And I know that basically whenever I

515
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 3: wear or people see things of my dad's, they're like,

516
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 3: how can I get one? Should I get? Can? I?

517
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 3: Can you please get me one? And it's a curse.

518
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 3: It is truly a curse. If you're listening to this podcast,

519
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 3: I can't give you one just because my dad is

520
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 3: too obdue and strange about it, and you cannot order

521
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 3: them online. And I felt like this is one of

522
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 3: the gifts that when I give people something of this nature,

523
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 3: they usually like it. And now it's incredible. I thought

524
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 3: that this would this would be a good gift.

525
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 2: Do you have a few like a stack of these

526
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 2: at home?

527
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 3: I calendars. I have one more, but like whenever I

528
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 3: see my dad or when he's in town or whatever,

529
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 3: I usually end up with a few more. And so

530
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 3: that's so good. And I'm not actually not sure what

531
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 3: you're that calendar.

532
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 2: Let me look at it.

533
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 3: I don't think it says a year if I remember,

534
00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 3: so if you could probably like, you know, look up

535
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 3: what your head, you know, January first on a Wednesday.

536
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 2: Or whatever, right, whatever year New Year's Eve was on

537
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:06,400
Speaker 2: a Tuesday.

538
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 3: Got it? Got it?

539
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 2: Have to say my birthday. Let's see, it's probably two

540
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 2: to three years old. Yeah, I mean it's definitely not vintage.

541
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 2: It talks about cell phones, that sort of thing. So

542
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 2: we know that we're dealing with the last ten years totally. Yeah. Yeah,

543
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 2: your father looks great, looks like he's having the time

544
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 2: of his life as a kid. Did you take karate

545
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 2: from your dad?

546
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 3: I did. I grew up taking karate. It's like a

547
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 3: little weird, I think because I grew up in Alabama

548
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 3: where there are like four Asian people, right, and I

549
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 3: think I didn't quite embrace it as hard as I

550
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 3: could have for that reason. But so I'm not a

551
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 3: black belt, which is a lot of a disappointment to everyone.

552
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 2: I tell Is it a disappointment to your dad?

553
00:28:55,680 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 3: It probably is due, yes, And so you know, I

554
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 3: wish I could pause my life and go back to

555
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 3: Alabama and become a black belt. But I think there

556
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 3: just were other interests and other things that felt more important,

557
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 3: and you know, doing it over again, I probably would

558
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 3: have embraced it a little more and gave it a

559
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 3: real go. But for me at the time, a lot

560
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 3: of that like going up in belts. For him, he

561
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 3: was always compared to like other like taekwondo and other

562
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 3: karate kind of things around, you know, where there are

563
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 3: like children that are black belts. Like he just like

564
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 3: basically wouldn't allow it and was like you have to

565
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 3: really really really prove it. And I was just kind

566
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 3: of a little infrequent with how often I would go.

567
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 3: And I think that when I think of why I'm

568
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 3: not a black belt, that's a big part of it.

569
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 2: I played lacrosse, interesting.

570
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 3: Something that I was really glad I did in hindsight,

571
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 3: really glad I spent high school playing lacrosse.

572
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I with your father, am disappointed in you?

573
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I assul.

574
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 2: It is a funny thing because it's like karate is

575
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 2: like a cool thing, but it's like when your parents

576
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 2: do something, it's just like that's not what I want

577
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 2: to do, no matter how cool it is exactly.

578
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 3: And I think I was just like not trying to.

579
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 3: It was very difficult to not run into like stereotypes

580
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 3: right when I grew up basically around all white people

581
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,959
Speaker 3: and was like, I'm the same, and you know, it was.

582
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 3: It's a little sad to remember that being a reason

583
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 3: for not embracing it. But I think I think it's cool.

584
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 3: I feel like, I know karate is like how I

585
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 3: put it.

586
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:48,479
Speaker 2: I'm sure you're better than most someone who hasn't taken karate.

587
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think I'm I wouldn't go so far

588
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 3: as to say I at one point in my life

589
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 3: was good at it. I think I'm a little you know,

590
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,719
Speaker 3: I haven't a little out of practice and stretched as

591
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 3: much in the last decade as I should have. But

592
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 3: but yeah, like one time, one summer, I like went

593
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 3: to Japan for the whole summer to do karate and

594
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 3: like train on the cycles. I would say, I know karate, Yeah,

595
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 3: but where in Japan did you go to train with

596
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 3: for karate? I well, it was just like one summer

597
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 3: and I went, I stayed with you know, he's a

598
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 3: part of this like karate organization that has a couple

599
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 3: of branches in Japan, and so I trained with two

600
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 3: of his different Black belts. Like a guy he he

601
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 3: very often would bring people to the United States to

602
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,959
Speaker 3: train with him because he was like thought of as

603
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 3: a very good teacher. They would like amazing, Yeah, it's

604
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 3: a very interesting world. But he like would train these

605
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 3: like young Japanese guys in karate that would yeah, they

606
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 3: like basically would come a lot of them not knowing

607
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 3: how to do karate at all, uh and basically not

608
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 3: knowing English, and they would stay for a couple of

609
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 3: years and like get really good and learn English and

610
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 3: like just kind of learn how to like be adults

611
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 3: or whatever, and like you know, like the philosophy on

612
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 3: his calendar, uh, you know, grow grow up sort of.

613
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 3: And so that was kind of the idea was like, yeah,

614
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 3: Zach should go there and do something. And I honestly

615
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 3: at the time I really didn't want to do it,

616
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 3: but ended up being a very cool experience. And like

617
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 3: trained with a guy in Tokyo that like had trained

618
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 3: in Alabama, and then another guy in Yokohama who is

619
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 3: just another that's just a.

620
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 2: Way better summer camp. That's incredible. Wow, good for your dad,

621
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 2: I mean the fact that I brought him up and

622
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 2: then we're suddenly looking at his sclenar.

623
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 3: As he started talking about I was like, this is

624
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 3: gonna be fun. When we opened the.

625
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 2: I need some some warning. I almost passed out. Okay,

626
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 2: should I go deeper into the bag here?

627
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I think we should.

628
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 2: We can always circle back to your dad's karate.

629
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we'll circle back. I guess immediately with this your.

630
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 2: Father's merchants and helpful. This is it. You now have

631
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 2: a You've given me a sweatshirt. So this is when

632
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 2: I say exclusively about your tad.

633
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 3: It kind of you know, it's it's not hard to

634
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 3: just suddenly start talking about it the whole time. My dad. Yeah,

635
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 3: this is what I've mean when people ask me if

636
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 3: they can have one, because I have a bunch of

637
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 3: these sweatshirts. My dad over the years has consistently made

638
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 3: oh Yama karate sweatshirts. I have some pretty old ones.

639
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 3: This is kind of the newer crop where the graphic

640
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 3: design of the sweatshirt is I think all his own.

641
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 3: Where my dad, I'm sure just told someone to do

642
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 3: exactly this, even though they probably give them feedback of

643
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 3: you probably don't want three fonts on this, but it's

644
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 3: sort of just like comic sands, something that's like a

645
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 3: little more like watery, kind of like like a very

646
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 3: fun Font's fine. So the three things it says are

647
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 3: put down the cell phone and maybe comic sands at time,

648
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 3: right then this sort of comic sands, yeah, like kind

649
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 3: of like a wet ink pen says just sweat and

650
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 3: then at the bottom and sort of a small sharp

651
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 3: font that's like almost like when someone does a like

652
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:19,919
Speaker 3: Japanese character, you know, character font, but it's elish world

653
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 3: of Democrat.

654
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 2: I think that it works. I think if this was

655
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 2: just one font, it wouldn't work. But the fact that

656
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 2: you get three different the chaos kind of turns it

657
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 2: into something.

658
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 3: Well, it really separates the messages.

659
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 2: Yeah right, I mean you're like you're getting just maybe

660
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 2: put the put down the cell phone. Then you can

661
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,760
Speaker 2: just have just sweat, and then you've got the business.

662
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 2: So it's a little bit of everything. Does your dad

663
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 2: have like a lot of students or is it like

664
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,879
Speaker 2: because you know, like growing up in Utah, like and

665
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 2: especially during like the Ninja Turtles fad, every kindergartener wanted

666
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 2: to learn karate or whatever exactly, but you're not taking karate,

667
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 2: You're going somewhere in your pajamas and like truly running around.

668
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that was like I think he's like consistently

669
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 3: had like a good It's hard for me to really

670
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 3: gauge honestly, but like it always felt like people thought

671
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 3: he was the real deal to a degree that like

672
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 3: when people were choosing where to take karate or whatever,

673
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 3: they would at least try there, and maybe it would

674
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 3: be too intense for them and they would do something

675
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 3: like a Ninja Turtle party or whatever. But I think

676
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 3: like around the karate kid, like he had like a

677
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 3: boom in business for sure. I bet like it was

678
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 3: a lot of it's funny because that is so what

679
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 3: my dad hates and so of course, and so like

680
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 3: it's maybe not it was a lot of him being like,

681
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 3: don't do that like to people, and like making like

682
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 3: really coming down hard on people who liked it and

683
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 3: calling it bullshit all the time. But but yeah, I

684
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 3: think I feel like it's been a little weird obviously

685
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 3: with like in person stuff for the last year, but

686
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 3: they're still they're still doing it. I think they're about

687
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 3: to like be able to open up to a better degree.

688
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 2: Now, right, And does he have like employees who also

689
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 2: teach karate or is it just him?

690
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 3: Uh? Yeah, well he, like I think a lot of

691
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,240
Speaker 3: the Black Belts, once they hit that sort of status,

692
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 3: he has like kind of a weird thing where they

693
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 3: you know, they'll teach some classes too. And there's this

694
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 3: guy Carl who's like been teaching for a while. That's

695
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 3: sort of his like protege. A lot of Japanese people

696
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 3: that like were his like students for a long time

697
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 3: that would come here and train for years, but we

698
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 3: were the teachers for most of the time I was

699
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 3: growing up outside of him.

700
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: Uh.

701
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 3: And but a lot of them obviously end up just

702
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 3: going back to Japan because they that's you know what

703
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 3: I think their original goal was. Some people stayed in

704
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 3: the United States, but just like go to a you know,

705
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 3: go to a different part of the country to teach

706
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 3: and under his umbrella or like doing their own thing.

707
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and wait, what belt did you get to?

708
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 3: So I'm a Green Belt with the brown stripe? Okay?

709
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 2: What is the what is the levels? I want to

710
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:12,959
Speaker 2: I really want to know your level here?

711
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 3: Okay, So here's the deal. It's always different in every

712
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 3: kind of practice. But the Amacaradi was white blue. I

713
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,720
Speaker 3: think I forget if they have stripes in the earlier

714
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 3: levels sometimes that I think that changed over the years.

715
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 3: Yellow orange, I think orange with a green stripe, green

716
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 3: green with a brown stripe, brown brown with a black stripe,

717
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 3: another black stripe than black.

718
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 2: Wow. So you did get fairly far down the road

719
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 2: before turning your life to lacrosse.

720
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, before getting very mediocre at lacrosse, which arrived in

721
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 3: Alabama when I was in seventh grade. Not of sport

722
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 3: played there.

723
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, does your what's your mom do?

724
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 3: My mom is a nurse. I just kind of retired now,

725
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 3: but like she would, she was like a like labor

726
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 3: and delivery nurse.

727
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 2: Oh wow, well your parents are just really doing it

728
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 2: up in Alabama. Wow, this is incredible. I you know,

729
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 2: I'm always wanting a new sweatshirt, but it's the sort

730
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 2: of thing that I'll see at the store and I'll

731
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 2: be like, that's four dollars too much money. So it's

732
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 2: nice to just have a sweatshirt given to me. Sweatshirts

733
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 2: have made a big comeback. Oh yeah, A crew neck

734
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 2: sweatshirt very popular. Oh my god, it's I mean a

735
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 2: really coveted item, and even more so when it's from

736
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 2: your dad. I mean, I feel like people in your

737
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 2: life are going to be furious at me.

738
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 3: That people are going to be pretty mad. You got

739
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 3: to target on your back now, because it's also saying,

740
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:43,240
Speaker 3: you know, karate.

741
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 2: Also, it's like telling people how to live their lives.

742
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 2: I'm going out in public and telling them to put

743
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 2: their phone.

744
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 3: Down, being fully antagonistic. Yeah, all that's funny. I honestly

745
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 3: like I've become so numb to it. I forget that

746
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 3: people probably think I, like, I really care if they're

747
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 3: on their cell phone or not, when it's just something

748
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 3: my dad cares about.

749
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 2: I mean, we should all care on some level how

750
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 2: much we're on each other's cell phones. I mean, obviously

751
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 2: we don't want to be pushing each other around, but

752
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,919
Speaker 2: it's it's gonna get us all cancer, and so why

753
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 2: not you know, in this early on, I was on

754
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 2: the right path. Maybe he's been a little too grumpy

755
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 2: about it. I don't know.

756
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 3: He really does not connect with it. Yeah he's not.

757
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 3: He can't. There's no world where he looks at his

758
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 3: phone for longer than thirty seconds.

759
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 2: Oh God, bless him. Yeah, falling in love with your father.

760
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 2: It's just impossible not to do. Now you you're a

761
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,959
Speaker 2: Dungeons and Dragons player and you have a podcast about

762
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 2: Dungeons and Dragons. I do have like similar feelings about

763
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 2: Dungeons and Dragons as to your father has about karate.

764
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 2: Are you kind of like a no nonsense.

765
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think well, I do think that, like it

766
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 3: is the kind of thing where, like if you Dungeons

767
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,919
Speaker 3: and Dragons, very strange thing that I feel like I've

768
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 3: only started to do in the last like four or

769
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 3: five years actually, or probably four years. My buddy Brennan

770
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,280
Speaker 3: Lee Mulligan introduced it to me and some other comedy

771
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 3: friends and we we have like a little show that

772
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 3: we would do on a little show. It's like a

773
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 3: fun show that is a like actual play D and

774
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 3: D show, but he taught us how to play, and

775
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 3: it's like this thing that like requires a level for

776
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 3: it to be very fun. Like I think it does

777
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 3: require a level of immersion and like caring about your character,

778
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 3: and it's sort of just like gambling with a story,

779
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 3: you know, because you have the dice and stuff, and

780
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 3: it kind of takes the fun out of it if

781
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 3: someone is just sitting there on the phone the whole time,

782
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 3: for sure, but bother Yeah, Yeah, it's like it's tough

783
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 3: because everyone engages with it in their own way and

784
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 3: there's not necessarily a wrong way to do it. But like,

785
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 3: I think that is like a little bit of a

786
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 3: let down when someone's just on phone the whole time.

787
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 2: I feel like I've never played Dungeons and Dragons, but

788
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 2: it does feel like the sort of game that you

789
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 2: have to that requires similar level of sincerity or earnestness

790
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 2: that you have to kind of give up in front

791
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 2: of your friends because you're imagining together.

792
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 3: Yes, it's sort of like this weird like fever dream

793
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 3: where everyone's sort of imagining the same thing. Is it

794
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 3: difficult to get into in that way? Well, it's immediately

795
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 3: incredibly embarrassing, but once you cross through that and then

796
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 3: it's just sort of fun. It's sort of I guess

797
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 3: it's like the closest thing to improv I guess where

798
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 3: it's like you're just kind of doing that with the

799
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:39,720
Speaker 3: same people for a long time, over many sessions. Yeah,

800
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 3: and it's I think it is. It can feel less

801
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 3: embarrassing once you're into it, and then you're all like

802
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 3: doing a good job with it, you know, like where

803
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 3: it's like, you know, kind of like improv. Like good

804
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 3: improv is less embarrassing than bad improv.

805
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 2: Right, I mean improv is largely like listening to someone

806
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 2: tell you their dreams. So if it's bad, just like

807
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 2: this is, I don't I can't follow any of this

808
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 2: logic and it's not entertaining me.

809
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you can tell if someone's embarrassed, like this

810
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 3: guy's not committed. He's like he knows what he's doing

811
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 3: is stupid, which.

812
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 2: Is more embarrassing. Yes, like it just adds to the

813
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 2: embarrassment of all of it. Okay, well, I feel like

814
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 2: we should play a game now. I want to play

815
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 2: the game called Gift Master, because I feel like you'll

816
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 2: be good at this with you know, you're a D

817
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 2: and D player. This is kind of the D and

818
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 2: D of I said, no gifts. Okay, I need a

819
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 2: number between one and ten from you.

820
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 3: Oh, one in ten, how about seven?

821
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 2: Okay, I have to do some light calculating. Okay, I've

822
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 2: got to go get the game pieces. So in the meantime,

823
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,399
Speaker 2: you can promote something, you can recommend something, you can

824
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 2: you know, say some nice things. About your mom, who

825
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 2: has not gotten enough spotlight on this podcast.

826
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 3: She doesn't have her own merch. It's kind of a problem.

827
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:58,760
Speaker 2: That's a big.

828
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 3: I should just make my mom.

829
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 2: That's a great idea. I would buy your mom's merch.

830
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 2: So do whatever you want. I'll be right back.

831
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 3: Okay, gosh, well, hello everyone. What can I recommend? I

832
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 3: guess I'll recommend my podcast. I have a podcast on

833
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 3: Patreon called Rotating Heroes podcast that, as Bridger mentioned, is

834
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 3: a D and D podcast. On the show, it's sort

835
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 3: of just comedians playing D and D and it's called

836
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 3: Rotating Heroes because every arc just sort of rotates in

837
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 3: and out some friends of mine, you know, carrying on

838
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 3: a story in the larger world with new people. Currently,

839
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 3: I'm doing an arc with Victoria Longwell, Devin Field, and

840
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 3: Jacob Wisaki. They're trapsing through a you know, a magical forest,

841
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 3: and it's been very fun so far. Outside of that,

842
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 3: I will recommend not asking me for merch of my

843
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 3: father because I just he's too hard to nail down.

844
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 3: It's cold way to get Zach.

845
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 2: That was an excellent use of your time. I mean,

846
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 2: I think I think you really did a good explanation

847
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 2: of your podcast that people should go listen to. Sometimes

848
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,479
Speaker 2: when people are trying, they'll name the podcast, they don't

849
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 2: explain what it is. I'm not blaming any past guests,

850
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:21,720
Speaker 2: but I just feel like you did a nice, tight

851
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 2: promotion there, which I appreciate. This is how gift master works.

852
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 2: I'm going to name three gifts, three potential things you

853
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 2: can give away, and then three famous people, celebrities that

854
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 2: kind of thing, and you have to tell me which

855
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 2: person you'll give which gift. Does that make sense?

856
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes sense? All right.

857
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 2: So the gifts you're going to be giving today are

858
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 2: an airy tunic, so a tunic that's kind of a

859
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 2: light more of a summary tunic springtime. Maybe you know

860
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 2: you'd the length. The length is up to you. The

861
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 2: only descriptor I have here is an airy tunic, so

862
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 2: the rest is truly up to you. The next one

863
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 2: is a less conventional gift, and it it's the one Ring. Now,

864
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 2: the one ring is from Lord of the Rings, which

865
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 2: I believe was forged in the fires of Mount Doom

866
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 2: and so kind of allows the user some sort of

867
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 2: unlimited power but also can corrupt.

868
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:18,240
Speaker 3: So that's I see.

869
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:22,399
Speaker 2: You know, the Baggin's family had it that kind of thing.

870
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 2: And then finally, grapefruit spoons. So these are spoons, the

871
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 2: tiny little spoons you use exclusively for grapefruit eating grapefruit.

872
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:37,399
Speaker 2: They kind of have like a little saw edge, I believe. Hmm, okay, yeah,

873
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 2: I'll say it's an underappreciated utensil. Now the people you're

874
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 2: going to be giving them to are this first person.

875
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 2: I'm not entirely sure how to pronounce her name. I

876
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 2: can't remember the last time I heard it pronounced, but

877
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 2: Dina Lohan or is it Dinah Lohan?

878
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 3: It's Lindsay's mom, Yes, Dinasa, I think it's.

879
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's I know, Okay, so d Lohan

880
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 2: will call her uh. Tan France is the next one

881
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 2: of Queer Eye, so he's kind of I believe he's

882
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:17,720
Speaker 2: a Utah resident actually. And finally we've got the judge herself,

883
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 2: Judge Judy.

884
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 3: Hmmm, So those.

885
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 2: Are the three people you're going to be dealing.

886
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 3: Lohan, Tan France, and Judge Judy.

887
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 2: You know, I.

888
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 3: Wish I knew more about Judge Judy. I just know

889
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 3: the title of her book. Don't be on my.

890
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 2: Leg and tell me it's Rainy, your dad could have

891
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 2: had that, could have had that slogan.

892
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:46,760
Speaker 3: That could be his next one shirt. I really don't

893
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 3: know that. I really don't feel like I should give

894
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 3: the one ring to Dina Lohan. I worry about her presence.

895
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 3: I worry about both her parents' presence in her life.

896
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 3: It seemed like maybe they weren't the best influence my

897
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 3: from my limited understanding of it. So I think you

898
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 3: know that the power would corrupt her. We have, we

899
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 3: would have another Smiegel or or worse on our hands.

900
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 2: Her scurrying up mountains and raw fish at a waterfall.

901
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 3: Tan France, I think could appreciate the airy Tunic, but again,

902
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:30,280
Speaker 3: Utah's I would say, probably you don't want to airy Tunic.

903
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 3: You want a bit of a bit of a Patagonia

904
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:37,280
Speaker 3: or something in Utah you get, Yeah, but obviously travels

905
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 3: the world, so who knows. Maybe that's I'll put that

906
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:46,720
Speaker 3: in the maybe for Tan. And last, gosh, Judge Judy,

907
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 3: I think, I really hope I'm correct in saying that

908
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 3: she has a strong moral character as a judge. Again,

909
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 3: not one hundred percent sure where she really falls on

910
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 3: the spectrum of judges, because some judges can be, of

911
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 3: course really bad.

912
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 2: I think the fact that she judges on television really

913
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 2: says a lot about her wisdom.

914
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 3: Mm yeah, yeah, gosh. I think I think I'm going

915
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:19,760
Speaker 3: to give Tan the one ring. Oh okay, interesting because

916
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 3: I feel like it strikes me as a as a

917
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 3: nice person trying to help people all around the world

918
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 3: with you know, you know, on queer getting their life together,

919
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 3: and it strikes me as like a positive, nice person

920
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 3: that could hopefully resist the powers of the ring. I

921
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 3: think that with Judge Judy, we might have a bit

922
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 3: of a bora mirror, you know, a bit of a

923
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:52,720
Speaker 3: person who's trying to take it. You know, I really

924
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 3: feels like they know what's right with the ring, and

925
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:59,280
Speaker 3: so I'm going to give her the airy tunic because

926
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 3: I was You're used to wearing a gown, but you

927
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 3: can't really wear that out and so like you're probably

928
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 3: comfortable in that type of garb, and so maybe it's

929
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 3: like kind of like an off duty judge gown and

930
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:12,760
Speaker 3: airy ta.

931
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 2: A tunic is kind of the relaxed judge gown. That's

932
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 2: a great choice.

933
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 3: And you know that leaves Dino with the grapefood spoon.

934
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 3: I think that maybe we'll promote some some routine, some

935
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 3: healthy choices. And this is maybe I may be out

936
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 3: of pocket just in commenting on her life in this way,

937
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,240
Speaker 3: but I think having a great foot spoon and starting

938
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 3: your day with a grapefruit is probably a really nice,

939
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 3: relaxing way to start your day.

940
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like Dina rolls out of bed into

941
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 2: just eating beef jerky or something. So like a packet

942
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 2: of cigarettes.

943
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 3: And nine arts of coffee, I think, yeah, I'm like,

944
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 3: why am I jittery like that? That's the energy making

945
00:49:54,160 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 3: forty five phone calls before three pm.

946
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 2: All to her daughter.

947
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 3: Nobody's picking up with the phone.

948
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 2: Excellent choices. I feel like you really did it there.

949
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 2: The one ring could only go to in this situation,

950
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 2: truly could only go to Tan France. It's the only

951
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 2: person of those three that I would trust with that

952
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 2: sort of power and temptation. At this point, I mean,

953
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 2: judge Judy is almost a sar On level presence in

954
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:28,399
Speaker 2: the world, so to give her even more power could

955
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 2: be difficult. I think, you, Yeah, you nailed it. I

956
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 2: really appreciate a good gift giving session. So you did it.

957
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 2: Let's move on. We have to get to this part

958
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 2: of the podcast. This is called I Said No Questions.

959
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 2: People write into I Said No gifts at gmail dot com.

960
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 2: Every one of them could not be more desperate for answers.

961
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 2: So would you help me answer some questions? I'd love

962
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 2: to all Right, this first one says dear Bridger and

963
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 2: esteemed qualified gift giving guests. So they've really just gone

964
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:04,800
Speaker 2: out of their way to in the span of two months.

965
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 2: My boyfriend and I have a lot of gift giving opportunities.

966
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 2: In June we will be celebrating our third anniversary, and

967
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 2: in early August we will be celebrating his twenty seventh

968
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 2: birthday and his graduation with a PhD in physics. Okay,

969
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 2: so he's a boy wonder. Congratulations. Let's see, did I

970
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 2: mention we're moving cross country from my master's degree. We're

971
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 2: dealing with a couple of brainiacs here. They're going from

972
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 2: Florida to California via two week road trip in July.

973
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:35,280
Speaker 2: There are a lot of gift giving opportunities and exciting times. Okay,

974
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 2: well you already mentioned that, so we're falling apart here.

975
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 2: My boyfriend loves experiences thrill seeking sports, both playing and

976
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 2: watching Vinyl records, video games, and traveling. We have a

977
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 2: sweet Mini Schnauzer and lived together. This person's just living

978
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 2: this beautiful life before thirty.

979
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 3: It's sharp, guys, Slow down.

980
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 2: I was thinking of doing an experience for a day

981
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 2: for our anniversary skydiving. I'm absolutely stuck on his graduation

982
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 2: and birthday presence. I'm not sure about material goods being

983
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 2: in the middle of a move, or experiences with such

984
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 2: a big trip planned, I'm not I'm just not sure

985
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 2: about anything. Okay, any advice would be a delight. And

986
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 2: that's from Darby in Florida soon to be California. Darby

987
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 2: is sending some I'm just going to put it out there,

988
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 2: some conflicting messages here.

989
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's saying.

990
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:28,800
Speaker 2: Experiences, but they're not experiences and video games video games, right.

991
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:32,359
Speaker 3: Just that's an experience. So what were the three things?

992
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 3: It's an anniversary.

993
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 2: Anniversary, right, mister PhD in physics. So and then he

994
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 2: seems to be kind of a you know, he likes music,

995
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 2: he likes video games, he likes sports. He kind of

996
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 2: does it all this. She's really painting a beautiful picture

997
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 2: of this boyfriend here and they're going skydiving.

998
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they're going skydiving, so not including that, what

999
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:58,879
Speaker 3: are what are some opportunities? So this is an active.

1000
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 2: Person, it feels like, yeah, or at least posits themselves

1001
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 2: as an active person. I mean, look, they're going on

1002
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 2: our cross country road trip. There are so many experiences

1003
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 2: you can have when you hit Colorado. Why don't you

1004
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 2: go on a water rafting trip?

1005
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 3: Ooh, that is very fun and something I haven't done

1006
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 3: in many years.

1007
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 2: That feels like a good experience, right, Yeah.

1008
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 3: Well, there's this place called the Akoe River in Tennessee,

1009
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 3: and I think that's where they did the Olympics when

1010
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 3: they're in Atlanta, and we would go on a lot

1011
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 3: of church trips there and whitewater raft. I think that

1012
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 3: was the thing we did like maybe once a year

1013
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 3: growing up.

1014
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 2: That's very much a church trip activity.

1015
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 3: I briefly got into whitewater kayaking at that age and

1016
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 3: call it and going into high school, I think, and

1017
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 3: I was too scared to tell my friends that it

1018
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 3: was too scary for me and would just go on

1019
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 3: these horrible trips where I was frightened the whole time.

1020
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 3: But in their whitewater raft it's a little right.

1021
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 2: And you probably have a guide and you're kind of

1022
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 2: just the bumbling tourist flying down the river.

1023
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, yeah, that's but it would be very

1024
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 3: fun to do that.

1025
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 2: You saying Tennessee reminds me. I recently learned that the

1026
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 2: world's largest subterranean lake is in Tennessee.

1027
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,839
Speaker 3: What is it called? What do you mean by subterranean lake?

1028
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:22,879
Speaker 2: It's everything you could dream of. It's a lake under

1029
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 2: the ground. I mean, it's like something I can get

1030
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 2: to it. You can absolutely this is something that you

1031
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:31,760
Speaker 2: can apparently just go under the through a cavern or whatever,

1032
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 2: and there's a giant cave full of water and trout

1033
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 2: that are slowly going blind because just a bunch of

1034
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 2: like white eyed I believe. It's called the Lost Sea,

1035
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:50,399
Speaker 2: and it's the largest lake under ground in at least

1036
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 2: the northern Hemisphere. And so that feels like you're headed

1037
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 2: from Florida to the West Coast. I don't know what

1038
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:59,760
Speaker 2: the you know, the actual route is, but that feels

1039
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 2: like an experience.

1040
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 3: I think that would be great. I would love to

1041
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 3: see something like that. And when are you going to

1042
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 3: be back in that area again?

1043
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 2: Right out here going to Tennessee for any other reason

1044
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 2: unless you've got family or something, and once you.

1045
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 3: Move to California you kind of can't. Like, I feel

1046
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 3: like I never been able to go anywhere else in

1047
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 3: the Southeast other than where I'm from.

1048
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 2: I think that, I mean, yeah, yeah, it's like, why

1049
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 2: going anywhere else? I think, what am I saying?

1050
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:29,359
Speaker 3: I'm saying.

1051
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 2: I'm about to echo exactly what you said, except for

1052
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 2: about Utah.

1053
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 3: It does not matter.

1054
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 2: But if you're headed this way, swing through Tennessee, you

1055
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 2: can see the Smoky Mountains, go to Dollywood.

1056
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 3: Gurg is very fun.

1057
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 2: Have you ever gag.

1058
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 3: Gallin Burg is a little town where there's about fifteen Ripley's,

1059
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 3: believe it or not, museums.

1060
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 2: Wait, is that near Dollywood?

1061
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 3: I can't remember if it's near Dollywood or not, but

1062
00:55:56,719 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 3: it's gosh. I think it's in Tennessee, and you can

1063
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 3: buy I bet every other store sells like a Thomas

1064
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 3: Kincaid painting or knives. And you know, there's like a

1065
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 3: little I think you can ski there technically, but it's

1066
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,439
Speaker 3: one of those places that has almost exclusively like fake

1067
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,919
Speaker 3: snow because it's like not necessarily high up enough.

1068
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 2: I feel like there are a lot of mini golf

1069
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 2: courses there if I've been.

1070
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 3: I feel, yeah, it's a very touristy little area, but

1071
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 3: I think it's you could go there and you could

1072
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 3: get plenty of gifts.

1073
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 2: Right, I'm receiving a word from our engineer on a lease.

1074
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 2: She's saying they're twenty two minutes apart, So there you go.

1075
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 2: I certainly have been through Gatlinburg. I've been to the

1076
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 2: parking lot of Dollywood.

1077
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 3: So I went to Dollywood and I accidentally lost my

1078
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 3: duct tape wallet that I made, so it's kind of

1079
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 3: a sour subject for me. I left it at a

1080
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 3: claw machine where but I think I only had about

1081
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 3: two dollars in it on a church trip.

1082
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 2: But that's some heartbreaking.

1083
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, I made you make the wallet. Yeah, I made

1084
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,319
Speaker 3: the duct tape wallet. It was kind of the cool

1085
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 3: thing to do at the time, and it was too

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Speaker 3: heartbroken to ever make another one.

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Speaker 2: Well, there you go. I feel like, make a wallet

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00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 2: for the boyfriend or the what did we say here, Darby? Yeah, boyfriend, Okay,

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Speaker 2: I don't know that. I think we gave some experiences

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00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 2: there that fit into their little trip. I think, so

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Speaker 2: get him a you know you're dry also going.

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Speaker 3: On a trip.

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00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:27,439
Speaker 2: Get him a Nintendo Switch or something you can play

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Speaker 2: that while you're driving.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be great. I feel like or like

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00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 3: a full van life van could be fun like all

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00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 3: of those like converted vans that are about you know,

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00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 3: probably too much for what you're talking about, unless you

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Speaker 3: did all three gifts at once and you're also just

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Speaker 3: really rich. They're probably about eighty grand.

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00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:49,439
Speaker 2: But can you rent those?

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00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 3: I think you can. I don't know if you can.

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Speaker 3: I mean from what I have done a little bit

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Speaker 3: of quarantine research. Of course, I think it's probably to

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Speaker 3: take a cross country road trip in one. But okay,

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Speaker 3: I haven't priced that out.

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Speaker 2: Look into it, Darby, that's not my job. It's not

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00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:12,959
Speaker 2: Zac's job either. We're just wanting to give it inspiration. Yes, okay,

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Speaker 2: let's answer one more. This says, Hello Bridger and delightful guests.

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Speaker 2: You're getting a lot of compliments today. My nephew's thirteenth

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00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 2: birthday is coming up, and I don't know what present

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Speaker 2: to get him. Last year I got him a gift

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00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 2: of the month membership for science type things, and a

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00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 2: couple of years before got him a laptop. He likes

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00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 2: video games, okay, and outdoors the stuff like camping and biking.

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00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 2: We were much closer when he was younger, so apparently

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00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:40,439
Speaker 2: there's been some sort of rift. The pandemic hasn't helped

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Speaker 2: with that at all. Please help me figure out what

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00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 2: to get this soon to be teenager. Thank you. That's

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Speaker 2: sign from just aunt who has no clue what is

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00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 2: cool anymore. I can relate to that. I cannot relate

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00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 2: to the rift with a nephew who knows what happened,

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00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:56,959
Speaker 2: But apparently they're drifting further and further.

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Speaker 3: A fourteen a tumultuous age, and who knows what the

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00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 3: aunt did.

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Speaker 2: I mean, she could have betrayed him in a huge way,

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00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 2: and now she's reaching out to a podcast first to

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Speaker 2: heal this. You know, this wound, which is a little

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00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 2: tough for me to you know, it's a lot of

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00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 2: weight for both of us to carry.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I have a nephew around the same age.

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Speaker 2: Have you got any many gifts?

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00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 3: I got him a gift, And the problem with this

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00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 3: is that I have not followed up on the other

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00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 3: half of why this gift is good. And so it's

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00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 3: hard for me to say this and then admit that

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00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 3: I'm I have been a bad uncle here, But I.

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Speaker 3: You know, we talked about how I played D and D.

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00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 3: I think a D and D starter set is a

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00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 3: good gift for a kid that age because it's like

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00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 3: a fun, imaginative thing that that you know, kids can

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00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 3: play with their friends, and it's very creative and in

1143
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 3: the playing of it kind of lets people test out

1144
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 3: kind of the things you need to test out at

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00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 3: that age to like find out who you are and

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01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 3: in a safe place where you are like, you know,

1147
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 3: morally understand what you're who you are, you know, and

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01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 3: like teach teach like philosophical lessons to children.

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01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 2: Here's your you've become your father. Just mister, no fun.

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01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 3: No, I think it's to put down this cell phone,

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01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 3: you know.

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01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 2: No, this is I think a D and D. It's

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01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 2: D and D said, I've never played D and D,

1154
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 2: but it does feel like a nice natural evolution of

1155
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 2: a video game interest. Let's just put it out there.

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01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 2: The thirteen year old's a NERD. As a former and

1157
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 2: current NERD, I support this. Let's get this little geek

1158
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 2: playing D and D and enjoying himself, getting some friends,

1159
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 2: and imagine.

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01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 3: It being right. You know, it's never been it's never

1161
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 3: been cooler to be a nerd truly.

1162
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 2: I mean it's almost almost dangerous to be a nerd.

1163
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 2: At this point, you're cooler than I mean, nerds are

1164
01:00:58,320 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 2: now in control of everything.

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01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, and do an honestly upsetting degree, or sometimes I

1166
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 3: think of being lightly bullied is okay.

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01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 2: I feel like I benefited a little bit from that,

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01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 2: and I feel like I can say this as a

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01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 2: lifelong nerd, we maybe we could like go back into

1171
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 2: the shadows slightly. Yes, just like let cool people take

1172
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 2: a little bit more control over what's happening.

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01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 3: I think some people that are very loud on the

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01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 3: Internet could benefit from having their head put in a

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01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 3: toilet for fifteen seconds.

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01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 2: Absolutely no question about that. And so but that said,

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Speaker 2: I think this thirteen year old, it's a nice age

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01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 2: to start. You know, you're really using your brain in

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01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 2: that way. I think this is the perfect gift. I

1180
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 2: don't have any I don't have what am I going

1181
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 2: to say? I buy him a tent, well, I don't

1182
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 2: have any outdoor thing. Buy some rope to tie knots

1183
01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 2: I don't know, teach them some knots, yes, or take

1184
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 2: him on one of the trips we mentioned in the

1185
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 2: last answer. Those both feel like outdoorsy things. Take him

1186
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 2: to Tennessee ant nephew trip to the huge lake under

1187
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 2: the water. That also be something he never heard or

1188
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 2: not under the water, under the grounds.

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01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 3: It sounds like The Descent three The Descent.

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01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 2: Oh, I love that movie. I haven't seen the sequel.

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01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's probably not as good, but yeah,

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01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 3: the first one's incredible.

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01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you could kind of that feels an ant

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01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 2: in a nephew being chased by goblins through a cave.

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01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 2: I think that that fits perfectly. Buy him The Descent

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01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 2: on DVD.

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01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 3: I don't know the emotional arc of an aunt and

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Speaker 3: her nephew. We've all been waiting for that one.

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Speaker 2: We have, Zach. We've done an excellent dare I say

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01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 2: perfect job answering these questions. I now own some of

1201
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 2: your father's merchandise. I mean, this episode feels like it

1202
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 2: really came together in a beautiful way. Hopefully I've gained

1203
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 2: both your wife Phoebe and your father and your mother

1204
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 2: as listeners. We've we've spoken about them so much, hopefully

1205
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 2: that they're all now lifelong fans. Eventually they'll all be guessed.

1206
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll do a family where you.

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01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 3: Of course, well, my dad definitely knows how to find

1208
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 3: a podcast and he knows what it is. Yeah, and

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01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 3: so he'll for sure listen.

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01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, mister Oyama, you have a lifelong fan in me.

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01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 2: I'm happy to take sweatshirts whenever you want to send them.

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01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:34,440
Speaker 2: Nobody else gets a sweatshirt. Zach's been very clear about that.

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01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, not going to happen. I'm sorry. I have to

1214
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:39,160
Speaker 3: be a little rude about it. If you ask me,

1215
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:39,959
Speaker 3: I'm going to be mad.

1216
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 2: It's going to be a scene, a scene similar to

1217
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 2: what happened when Zach found me measuring his house, which

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01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 2: was not pretty.

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01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 3: I will intensely give you a gift that is not

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01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 3: a sweatshirt.

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01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 2: Zach, thank you so much for being here. I've had

1222
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 2: such a wonderful time.

1223
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 3: Oh this was incredible.

1224
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 2: And everybody go listen to zax pod and find him

1225
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 2: on the internet. He's on Instagram, he's on you know,

1226
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 2: Twitter is more and more causing. I think going to

1227
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 2: give us all work cancer. But he's very funny. Wherever

1228
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 2: you find him on the internet, So wherever you feel

1229
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 2: comfortable and isn't going to just send you into a spiral,

1230
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 2: go there or don't be on the Internet. That's also

1231
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 2: an option.

1232
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just kind of ponder on the idea of me.

1233
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 3: If you want, right, just think about Zach and zach

1234
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:26,440
Speaker 3: Oyama in your mind.

1235
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 2: When you're saying your prayers, just think at zach Oyama.

1236
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 2: But anyway, this is the end listener, So this as usual.

1237
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 2: The audio will eventually stop playing and you'll have to

1238
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 2: make some of your own life choices. And that's where

1239
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 2: I trust you to take control. I believe in you,

1240
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:47,919
Speaker 2: and I will talk to you soon.

1241
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 3: Goodbye.

1242
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 2: I said No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's

1243
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 2: engineered by our dear friend Analise Nelson and the theme

1244
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 2: song is by Miracle wor Amy Mann. You must follow

1245
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 2: the show on Instagram at I Said No Gifts. That's

1246
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 2: where you're going to see pictures of all these wonderful

1247
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 2: gifts I'm getting. Listen and subscribe on Apple podcast, Stitcher

1248
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Speaker 2: or wherever you found me, and why not leave a

1249
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:17,480
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1250
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:20,960
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Speaker 1: Hello invit, did you hear Funna mad? Myself? Perfectly clear?

1253
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 1: But you're a guess to me, you gotta come to

1254
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 1: me empty, And I said, no guests, your presences presents enough,

1255
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 1: and I'm already too much stuff. So how do you

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Speaker 1: dare to surbey me?