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Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 3: Martin Wise joined here with e from Salaam and Mark

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Speaker 3: Willard's normal seat. Appreciate Mark letting me fill in here

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Speaker 3: on this Sunday evening. Ephram, how are you doing that?

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Speaker 3: I'm fantastic brother. How you doing doing well? Doing well?

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Speaker 3: Glad to be here, August. There are a ton of

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Speaker 3: stuff do to people, and you know what's going on

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Speaker 3: in your life. It's no secret. There's no secret. I'm

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Speaker 3: getting married. By this time next week, I will be married.

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Speaker 2: He'd be a kept man. Ladies, this is over. He's

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Speaker 2: off the market. It'll be I've listened off the market.

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Speaker 3: I'll put it, Ladies, I've been an escrow for quite

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Speaker 3: some time, then if I if I'm just now going

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Speaker 3: off the mark getting them papers, I've been an escrow.

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Speaker 3: We've been going back and forth between the realtor and

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Speaker 3: the buyer for quite some time.

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Speaker 2: Closing cost is too high, right, there's.

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Speaker 3: Been several levels of negotiations, the problem with the bank's

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Speaker 3: interest rates.

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Speaker 2: No things are It's an exciting time.

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Speaker 4: It's a beautif man is love is needed and love

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Speaker 4: is appreciated.

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Speaker 2: Man. So if you can find somebody to spend your

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Speaker 2: life with. Then I'm all for it.

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Speaker 3: Do you know the other thing I'm very excited about

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Speaker 3: that you'll relate to, and I imagine those who are

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Speaker 3: married will relate to and those who are not.

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Speaker 2: What is he even talking about?

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Speaker 3: I am so very excited to not have to debate

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Speaker 3: or discuss or think about or listen to hear about,

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Speaker 3: like where is this person gonna sit? Should we get

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Speaker 3: this tabled? That table number chicken or fish? Yes, Like

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Speaker 3: I don't care anymore. I don't care anymore. Even I

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Speaker 3: don't care, I don't have to make a difference to me.

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Speaker 3: When I was thinking about how I wanted to do this,

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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. When I was like, I

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Speaker 3: want to get married, Let's spend the rest of my

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Speaker 3: life with this woman, I never once debated or thought

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Speaker 3: about whether or not I want to order seventy five

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Speaker 3: chicken meals or sixty eight.

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Speaker 4: Yeah that is ah, brother, you're not You're not in

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Speaker 4: that sentiment. But I say it like this. You know,

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Speaker 4: I don't know any little boys who grew up and

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Speaker 4: fantasized about their wedding. Sure, but you know I do

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Speaker 4: know your young ladies who grew ups, and they wanted

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Speaker 4: the special wedding, and they wanted it this way and

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Speaker 4: that way. So you carry those things over when you

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Speaker 4: get to be an adult, and it may not go

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Speaker 4: exactly like you envisioned it when you were younger, but it.

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Speaker 2: Is a special day.

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Speaker 4: I literally handed the keys over to my wife and said,

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Speaker 4: whatever it is you want to do, go ahead, because

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Speaker 4: I know how much it meant to her. I know

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Speaker 4: she wanted a perfect day, and so I did what

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Speaker 4: I could to help facilitate that.

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Speaker 2: And so you know, you're right after Saturday.

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Speaker 4: You don't have to worry about a seating chart chart

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Speaker 4: or the fishing or chicken option or the DJ or

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Speaker 4: the cake man.

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Speaker 2: Are you know any of that?

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Speaker 3: Auntie Darryl, I mean Uncle Darryl can't come anymore.

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Speaker 2: Auntie Wanda's late? Oh you know? Oh I woke up

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Speaker 2: from an app today.

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Speaker 4: My god, Where are you guys getting? Where are you local?

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Speaker 4: Are you going destination with other team?

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Speaker 2: Full?

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Speaker 3: So just far enough to not be able to stay

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Speaker 3: at my own? Are you guys going right into the honeymoon?

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Speaker 3: Are you taking your waiting first? I mean a couple

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Speaker 3: of days, couple days, a couple of days, so you

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Speaker 3: already got it picked out and all of that. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's all listen booked and mostly paid for booked and

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Speaker 3: mostly paid for it in terms of all of that.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, so it's it's a beautiful thing, man, it's

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Speaker 2: enjoy it.

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Speaker 3: I am looking forward to Look, technically, you're only supposed

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Speaker 3: to do this once.

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Speaker 2: That's kind so enjoy it why as much as you.

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Speaker 4: Can because it's supposedly not supposed to happen again, right,

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Speaker 4: And so I've only had one wedding and that's the

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Speaker 4: only wedding I'm going to have twenty two years in

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Speaker 4: so and enjoy it for what it is. Sometimes I

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Speaker 4: think back we watched the old video. It takes you

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Speaker 4: back to a place of of of.

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Speaker 3: Promise and excitement. So just chaerish it and relationship.

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Speaker 2: For what it is.

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Speaker 3: I mean, no, I'm definitely looking forward to it. I'm

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Speaker 3: also just definitely looking forward to it to be over,

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Speaker 3: to not having to talk about it. Guy, like I'm

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Speaker 3: looking forward to remembering it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, there you go. That's a good way to put it. Look,

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Speaker 2: that's a good way to put him.

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Speaker 3: Bring it and you know, much like I'm about to

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Speaker 3: get married, you've been married for twenty two years, the

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Speaker 3: Los Angeles Lakers and Luton Doncics. They signed up on

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Speaker 3: that legal document that same way. We together now for.

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Speaker 2: Three years, one hundred and sixty five.

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Speaker 3: Million dollars and Rob Polinka, you know, I'm a fellow

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Speaker 3: in Michigan, alum, and I have a soft spot a

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Speaker 3: little bit for Lincoln sometimes, especially just.

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Speaker 2: When I hear him that sometimes what he wears, like yo,

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Speaker 2: what are we doing?

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Speaker 3: But uh, he is he could be an author in

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Speaker 3: a different life. My man is not one to embellishment,

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Speaker 3: flourish howeveryone.

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Speaker 2: Is phrased it. He's good with his words.

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Speaker 3: And this is what he had to say as he

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Speaker 3: entered in to the press conference to welcome Luka Doncic.

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Speaker 3: Not welcome him, obviously, but you know, announced this, celebrate

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Speaker 3: this contract signing.

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Speaker 5: The Los Angeles Lakers chose Luka Doncic through a trade

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Speaker 5: where he came to our franchise. Today, Luka Doncic chose

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Speaker 5: the Los Angeles Lakers, and that is a monumental moment

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Speaker 5: in Lakers history. And we could be not more We

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Speaker 5: could not be more grateful for you choosing this partnership.

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Speaker 5: The best young basketball player in the universe for the

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Speaker 5: long term future, the best sports franchise on the globe.

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Speaker 2: You gotta love that. A monumental day in Lakers history.

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Speaker 2: Eat from Salam the best young player in the universe.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I mean, like Hyperbolics said, look, find somebody who

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Speaker 3: loves you, like Rob Polinka loves Luka Danta yesterday as

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Speaker 3: they signed up for that deal.

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Speaker 2: Now, I know you died in a big time Lakers face.

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Speaker 3: I am when you saw that news yesterday and you

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Speaker 3: saw this press conference, and you saw the smile on

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Speaker 3: Luka Donci's just face a man. Look, Men's health GQS

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Speaker 3: coming up next, all right, buddy, with that smile and

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Speaker 3: that suit he had on in that press conference, what

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Speaker 3: were your first thoughts?

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Speaker 4: I was excited because you know when a player, when

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Speaker 4: you receive a player in the trade, you never know

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Speaker 4: what their intentions are, especially if they didn't ask for

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Speaker 4: the trade or want to be here. It was such

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Speaker 4: a big shock to Luca, to the NBA world, to

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Speaker 4: everyone Laker fans alike that that trade happened. Now there

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Speaker 4: was uncertainty of will Luca signed the extension, does he

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Speaker 4: want to go somewhere else? So just waking up to

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Speaker 4: the news that he decided to not wait till next

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Speaker 4: offseason and signed a long, a longer deal. He opted

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Speaker 4: into the to the franchise. Now, to me, that was amazing.

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Speaker 4: I love that as a Laker fan, we know the

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Speaker 4: piece we're building around. This is ushering in the post

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Speaker 4: Lebron James era, even though they got one more shot

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Speaker 4: to see what they can do together. But at least

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Speaker 4: we know the direction we're going in the future for

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Speaker 4: as you know, as a franchise, which is always up

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Speaker 4: in the air when you lose an all time great

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Speaker 2: The plan is key, right, like will it work? Who knows? Right?

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Speaker 3: No one can know the future Dallas eighteen months ago,

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Speaker 3: nobody would have thought that this was ever been the case.

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Speaker 2: Right. If you're in Dallas right now, you're like, wait

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Speaker 2: a minute, like, my ex looks good. You know what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying. So you can't tell what the future holes.

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Speaker 3: But I think when you look at the first five

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Speaker 3: years of Lucas career, you see a guy who you

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Speaker 3: would I'm a betting man, I would bet he'll be

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Speaker 3: back in the finals.

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Speaker 2: I would I would.

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Speaker 3: Bet that he he is a type of guy that

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Speaker 3: turned your team from average to contending. He's the type

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Speaker 3: of guy turned your team from terrible to above average,

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Speaker 3: you know, maybe contented, because that's what the Mavericks were

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Speaker 3: and we're like a five hundred team before making those

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Speaker 3: trades with Washington and Charlotte and getting Daniel Gafford and PJ. Washington,

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Speaker 3: two guys who were just in NBA Siberia essentially who

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Speaker 3: and then got all the way to the finals.

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Speaker 2: Right, So you saw it like that.

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Speaker 3: We have proof of concept with Luka doncis here and

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Speaker 3: now according to men's health from he.

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Speaker 2: Started to work out.

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Speaker 4: Look, I know Luca worked out before, but he.

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Speaker 2: Didn't work out like this.

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Speaker 3: As you mature, as expectations rise, then there are different

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Speaker 3: levels to working out. Now you can work out to

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Speaker 3: shape I need, or you can go all in something

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Speaker 3: Lebron has done, something the greats have done. Kobe did it,

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Speaker 3: Jordan did it, all of the great Kevin Garnett did it.

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Speaker 3: They come in to the season ready to go because

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Speaker 3: they want to use that period where everybody's trying to

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Speaker 3: get themselves in shape. They want to separate themselves and

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Speaker 3: Luca working out the way he's working out now, new body,

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Speaker 3: new mentality, new contract. It bowls well for Lakers and

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Speaker 3: Laker fans alike, because the big knock on him was

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Speaker 3: he's talented, but you know, is he taking it serious

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Speaker 3: enough to keep his body healthy? Can he survive a

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Speaker 3: it's still good training camp still a couple months away,

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Speaker 3: but him coming into training camp already in shape allows

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Speaker 3: him to not only you know, start you know, ten

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Speaker 3: yards ahead of where he normally would start. But it's

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Speaker 3: a good message for all those guys in the locker room.

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Speaker 3: It's a message to Lebron James like he's gonna have

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Speaker 3: a real life running mate who's in it to accomplish

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Speaker 3: something this year. This isn't a we'll wait and see,

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Speaker 3: this is I'm in shape. I'm going to be playing

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Speaker 3: at the highest I've played in and if he if

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Speaker 3: he can do that, I mean, he's was twenty eight

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Speaker 3: points a game, last year twenty eight, seven and eight,

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Speaker 3: I leave. If we can get a Luca who shows

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Speaker 3: up ready like that, the Lakers will.

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Speaker 2: Be tough out. It'll be a tough out.

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Speaker 3: The thing that I find to be fascinating, and it's

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Speaker 3: one of the things I don't even know.

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Speaker 2: Not to say. If it's worth saying out loud, I'm

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Speaker 3: But like, if it's worth as a thought exercise, happening,

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Speaker 3: Luka Doncics gets traded, right, and then Nico Harrison and

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Speaker 3: the Mavericks go on, I'll turn it like a smear

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Speaker 3: campaign spin cycle, right, But like, the reality was, the

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Speaker 3: was so lopsided that everybody nobody stopped to think whether

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Speaker 3: or not the trade itself was a good idea. It

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Speaker 2: Guess what? I bought kettlebells this offseason? And so do

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Speaker 4: Oh I'm sure they would have wanted a motivated Luca.

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Speaker 2: So that's all he knew. When you come out of

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Speaker 3: were in Lakerland, Yes, especially here for Ephram Salaam.

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Speaker 2: Who you know? What you know?

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Speaker 3: Mary, Ephraim is really he's really I have to I

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Speaker 3: But I have noticed about every ten minutes, we've only

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Speaker 2: What you're talking about. I notice that.

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Speaker 3: I'm just like all I've noticed it gets darker and

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Speaker 4: Look, he has this whole portion of the grid on.

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Speaker 4: It's shining on him. But you know, I like to

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Speaker 9: Tripping when I've seen it get darker too.

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Speaker 10: What what you're talking about, because I had my head

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but this I don't need the spotlight just into

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Speaker 3: Step up to the stage, Mark Medina, Mark, how are

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Speaker 3: you doing today, my friend?

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Speaker 11: I'm doing well. I think you've mistaken me for Luca Dodgers.

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Speaker 3: I mean well, he's definitely getting paid like it three years,

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Speaker 3: In Lakers history, and also that the best young player

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Speaker 11: It's just a matter of how do they balance that

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Speaker 3: this what happened, And I'll put it like this, six

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Speaker 3: months ago yesterday when it did an intro press conference,

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Speaker 3: Luca looked like he was miserable. He looked destraught, looked

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Speaker 3: very unhappy. Right, I'm not saying he was unhappy to

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Speaker 3: be in LA. He just looked like despondent. In general,

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Speaker 3: he didn't look very happy, and I think it had

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Speaker 3: a lot to do with the shakra be traded and

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Speaker 3: so on.

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Speaker 2: You look at the.

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Speaker 3: One this year, I mean yesterday, it looks like when

447
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Speaker 3: they would have the president going in first term and

448
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Speaker 3: then after four years later, but the opposite, like he's

449
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 3: you know, he looks like LA has done great for him,

450
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Speaker 3: and you hear the reports of him recruiting Marcus Smart

451
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Speaker 3: through text message and so on. At what point did

452
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Speaker 3: it turn from oh my god, I can't believe it

453
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Speaker 3: just got traded to all right, this is home now

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Speaker 3: I'm going to lock in because there was a It

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Speaker 3: seems to me there's a clear point of turn.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, Luca Daccaa said it was basically the first game

457
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Speaker 11: he got, you know, a huge warm reception from the Lakers.

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Speaker 11: I think that you hit on the head that his

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Speaker 11: first intro press conference, he looked shell shocked, But I think,

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Speaker 11: in fairness being there had nothing to do with any

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Speaker 11: misgivings with the Lakers. He's just trying to get over

462
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Speaker 11: the fact that this team that guide to the guided

463
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Speaker 11: to the NBA Finals the season before, and was on

464
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Speaker 11: the verge of being a franchise player, all of a

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Speaker 11: sudden traded me and then on my way out poop

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Speaker 11: pood my conditioning and said, you know, it wasn't worth

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Speaker 11: the investments. I think that's what he was trying to

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Speaker 11: get over. Even in real time as he was processing that,

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Speaker 11: he gushed about the Lakers historical excellence, talked about you know,

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Speaker 11: Kobe Bryant and all the different luminaries wanting to win championships.

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Speaker 11: But I think really that first game back he started

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Speaker 11: embracing being a Laker because of the fan reception. While

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Speaker 11: there are questions about he and Lebron with, you know,

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Speaker 11: just the future, I think from a chemistry standpoint, it

475
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Speaker 11: was pretty seamless, and so that point on it was

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Speaker 11: then just about fine tuning things, most notably with his body.

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Speaker 11: But yesterday he looked stronger, he looked leaner, he looked

478
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Speaker 11: a lot happier. And I think this is what's scary. Guys.

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Speaker 11: He's already made I think six all NBA teams. He

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Speaker 11: guided Mavericks to the NBA Finals. He's just scratched in

481
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Speaker 11: the surface here. I mean, he's already been Top five,

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Speaker 11: He's an MVP candidate. He's going to just continue to

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Speaker 11: get better and better and better. And we have to

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Speaker 11: keep in mind he's still in the prime of his career.

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Speaker 4: Let me ask you this, and this is a big hypothetical,

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Speaker 4: but let's just say the Lakers put this thing together,

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Speaker 4: uh and Lebron James last year with the Lakers, they

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Speaker 4: make it to the finals, and they win the NBA

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Speaker 4: championship next year, which I would be elated. I mean

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Speaker 4: that would that would I almost would give up half

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Speaker 4: of one of my kids.

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Speaker 1: For the just put this on records.

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Speaker 4: And you know, and Martin gets to have the half

494
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Speaker 4: that I'm giving up. Hey, he and Luka Dancic was

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Speaker 4: the Finals MVP. What would that do to Lebron's legacy?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, it would be fascinating because part of me wonders,

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Speaker 11: does this think Lebron wants to leave right out on top?

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Speaker 11: He's made it clear that he's not going to continue

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Speaker 11: to prolong his career just for the sake of it.

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Speaker 11: He has to be an all SAR caliber level. And

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Speaker 11: if he's not Gay's Finals MVP, that's kind of a

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Speaker 11: signal that you know, this is the best time to leave.

503
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Speaker 11: But if he wins a championship, I can't help. But

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Speaker 11: wonder does he think, you know what, I'll sign at

505
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Speaker 11: a relative discount comeback just so I can add the

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Speaker 11: championship rings. I think, you know, if he doesn't win

507
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Speaker 11: finals MVP, it's obvious ammunition for people that you know,

508
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Speaker 11: obviously choose Michael Jordanova, Lebron James and the you know,

509
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Speaker 11: the discussion is on who is the goat, But it

510
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Speaker 11: also helps if he wins a championship, he adapts and

511
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Speaker 11: shows that he doesn't worry about whether he's the number

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Speaker 11: one or number two options. So I think it almost

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Speaker 11: kind of evens itself out. And then the next question

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Speaker 11: is does this mean it's his last season? And that's

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Speaker 11: what makes it very complicated because when you compare with

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Speaker 11: Kobe Bryant, I know, covering him in his final years,

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Speaker 11: it almost became easier for him to know when it

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Speaker 11: was his final year because the team wasn't good. He

519
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Speaker 11: was having the worst year of his career. He's dealing

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Speaker 11: with so many injuries that you know, a month into

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Speaker 11: the season, he knew, you know what this is going

522
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Speaker 11: to be. It that's uff the farewell tour, which is

523
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Speaker 11: something that he originally didn't think. Here much different context

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Speaker 11: because the Lakers have an outside chance to win a

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Speaker 11: title at least be a playoff contender, and Lebron's playing

526
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Speaker 11: all star caliber level, so it's going to be very

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Speaker 11: fascinating to watch and very unpredictable.

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Speaker 2: Mark last one. For me, that's kind of the thing

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Speaker 2: that I question.

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Speaker 3: There's obviously the Ridge Paul statement, and then Polinka in

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Speaker 3: the Luca you know parade yesterday going. You know, if

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Speaker 3: Lebron James chooses to retire a Laker, it was very

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Speaker 3: if and maybe and not very much. Oh, he'll be

534
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 3: here for sure. Lock it up. Sounds like Renten not buying.

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Speaker 3: And that's the thing I don't get. Lebron is playing

536
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Speaker 3: at an all star level right now. I think you'd

537
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Speaker 3: be hard pressed to find. Now, maybe the contract number

538
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Speaker 3: is one that you would debate, but you'd be hard

539
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Speaker 3: pressed to find ten fifteen better players to put us

540
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Speaker 3: alongside of Luka Donci. It's just from a basketball fit

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Speaker 3: and at forty years old, Yeah, he doesn't play the

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Speaker 3: same way he did when he was twenty.

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Speaker 2: Seven, but he's still in a lot better than a

544
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Speaker 2: lot of twenty seven year olds. Yeah, what's the deal? Like,

545
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 2: why is this?

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Speaker 3: Why does it feel like this is a little bit

547
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Speaker 3: more than just your average.

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Speaker 2: Lebron passive aggressiveness this offseason?

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Speaker 11: Well, I think it's because the nature of Lebron's relationship

550
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 11: with the Lakers, ever since the beginning, has felt more

551
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 11: transactional to anything else. I think the other thing is,

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Speaker 11: even though Lebron James is a way to play with

553
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Speaker 11: Luka Doncic because of where he's at in his career.

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00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 11: The Lakers clearly pivoted that they're making moves in mind

555
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 11: more for what's best for him than what's best for Lebron.

556
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 11: But it doesn't have to be an either or Both

557
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 11: Luca and Lebron want to win a championship next season,

558
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 11: and so they technically both sides have all this upcoming

559
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Speaker 11: season to find clarity to those answers. You know, I

560
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Speaker 11: think you hit a really good point that even at

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Speaker 11: his age level, it's hard to find a lot of

562
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Speaker 11: players that are better than him. I mean, I would

563
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 11: still say he's top ten in the league, at least

564
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Speaker 11: top fifteen, but given where he's at his age, he's

565
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Speaker 11: going to be. He's forty now, he's going to be

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Speaker 11: forty one December thirtieth. Things can change very quickly. There's

567
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Speaker 11: tough with father time, So I think by the time

568
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 11: June hits, April hits, maybe even before that, it's going

569
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Speaker 11: to be very clear how well Lebron's playing in the

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Speaker 11: now and what it could be in the future.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing.

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Speaker 3: I get father Time, But Lebron James at this point,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to he got to show me he can't

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Speaker 3: play anymore. Mark Medena, we know you still got a

575
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 3: lot of time left in you. So appreciate you coming

576
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Speaker 3: on and giving us that insight on the Lakers and everything. Lebron, James,

577
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 3: Luca doncis my friend.

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Speaker 2: Thanks man.

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Speaker 11: I appreciate you guys as always.

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Speaker 2: Absolute doubt coming up.

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Speaker 3: In just a moment, we'll go inside NFL training camp.

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Speaker 3: You have a few different conversations hold ends, injuries during camp.

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Speaker 3: We got somebody uniquely qualified to discuss.

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Speaker 3: Steve de Seger.

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Speaker 12: Hello, gentlemen, it's looking like a hold in in Buffalo

595
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Speaker 12: with their star running back James Cook. He sat out practice.

596
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Speaker 12: He wants a contract extension. That part's no secret. As

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Speaker 12: for not participating. He was asked about it, he said,

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Speaker 12: it was just business, very curt very short business. That's

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Speaker 12: the sentence. Buffalo wide receiver Khalil Shakire week to week

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Speaker 12: with a high ankle sprain. Eagles wide receiver AJ Brown

601
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Speaker 12: miss practice with a hamstring injury. The forty nine ers

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Speaker 12: signed veteran wide receiver Robbie Chosen. Most teams start the

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Speaker 12: exhibition schedule this week. Among the five WNBA games, New

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Speaker 12: York a winner at Connecticut eighty seven, seventy eight, Connecticut

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Speaker 12: five and twenty two. And there was the report yesterday

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Speaker 12: that they'll be sold for three hundred twenty five million

607
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Speaker 12: and in a couple of years moved to Boston. The

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Speaker 12: Boston Red Sox have won their fifth straight game today.

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Speaker 12: It was a six to one final over Houston, the

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Speaker 12: first place team in the AL West. Houston just two

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Speaker 12: and a half games over the Mariners. Seattle was a

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Speaker 12: five to four winner against Texas. Another save for Andres

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Speaker 12: Munoz is twenty fifth. The Mariners closer, has an ERA

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Speaker 12: of one point twenty six this year. Miami won its

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Speaker 12: fifth straight games, seven to three over the Yankees, who

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Speaker 12: were the third place team in the AL East. First

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Speaker 12: place Toronto was beaten in ten innings at home by

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Speaker 12: Kansas City. Seven to four wins for Pittsburgh and Arizona.

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Speaker 12: The Angels were down five nothing in the six but

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Speaker 12: won eight to five against the White Sox on a

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Speaker 12: three run homer bottom of the ninth by Taylor Ward.

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Speaker 12: The Cubs were winners at home on a two run

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Speaker 12: homer bottom of the ninth from Justin Turner five to

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Speaker 12: three against Baltimore. The cub still two games back of

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Speaker 12: the first place Brewers in the NL. Central Milwaukee won

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Speaker 12: fourteen to three at Washington, The Dodgers and Padres each one.

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Speaker 12: In fact, the Dodger winner was Yoshinobu Yamamoto, having a

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Speaker 12: great season. The ra two point five to one LA

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Speaker 12: three nothing winners at Tampa Bay. The Dodgers still three

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Speaker 12: games up on San Diego, which was a seven to

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Speaker 12: three winner against Saint Louis, San Francisco a twelve to

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Speaker 12: four victory at the Mets tonight. It's Phillies won nothing

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Speaker 12: going to the seventh against Detroit, and they finished the

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Speaker 12: Speedway Classic the ballgame at Bristol Motor Speedway today in Tennessee,

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Speaker 12: which much better weather today Braves over the Reds four

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Speaker 12: to two. The game was suspended by rain Saturday night

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Speaker 12: in the first inning, a nearly two and a half

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Speaker 12: hour rain delay at the start Saturday pick to you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that rain was not stopping last night.

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Speaker 3: When we were watching that delay live and it was

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Speaker 3: just like they were trying to get it in it.

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Speaker 2: It was like, no, no, not today.

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Speaker 8: No.

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Speaker 12: If they didn't take the teams off the field, the

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Speaker 12: shortstop would have been swing in the field. At one point,

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Speaker 12: it was coming down faster than that drying agent was

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Speaker 12: put down.

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Speaker 3: Steve was talking about a drying agent. I was like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: the dry drawing would be the only drying agent possible.

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Speaker 3: They would have canceled football games in that weather. Like

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Speaker 3: I was like, they're not playing baseball in this this

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Speaker 3: is ridiculous.

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Speaker 12: I've told I am told that that field that they

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Speaker 12: were on this week and of course they created this

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Speaker 12: whole field right field of a NASCAR racetrack in Tennessee

656
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Speaker 12: just for this one game, this one weekend. The yeah,

657
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Speaker 12: and it was terf I mean artificial, and but that

658
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Speaker 12: the field is going to East Tennessee State. They're making

659
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Speaker 12: good use.

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Speaker 3: Oh good for them, Well, it'll be well irrigated, it'll

661
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Speaker 3: be well, I.

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Speaker 12: Kind of work out.

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Speaker 2: Yes today, that's over to East Tennessee State. That is awesome.

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Speaker 3: So coming up next we'll dive into evil to some

665
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Speaker 3: of these training camp notes.

666
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Speaker 2: Is it just business?

667
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 3: And how much? What else are they hiding from us?

668
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Speaker 3: What else are they hiding from us? We uncover it next.

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Speaker 13: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Fox Sports Sunday watching

670
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Speaker 13: the Tigers with runners on the corners and two outs

671
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 13: try to score here the Phillies.

672
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 3: It made a lot of moves at the trade deadline

673
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,919
Speaker 3: getting the ran. That was big as the Tigers strikeout.

674
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 3: As Dan Dickerson would say, the Tigers threaten but do

675
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 3: not score. That's the radio announcer for the Detroit Tigers,

676
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 3: Dan Dickerson. Martin Whiz here with e from salon either

677
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 3: one of us, Dan Dickerson, that's a ball?

678
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Speaker 2: Okay? Cool? Uh? He from training camp? Oh so I

679
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 2: am not one I should say like this. My experience with.

680
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 3: Training camps is strictly from reading reports of training camp.

681
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 2: Okay, so very much like the way I studied history.

682
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 3: It's just about reading and contextualizing it all because I

683
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 3: wasn't there, you know, I ain't there What impact do

684
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 3: you think the hold d has, which is a relatively

685
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 3: recently new phenomena. Used to be hold out, then they

686
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 3: changed the fines in that CBA, and now you have

687
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 3: James Cook sitting up in wherever the Bills have camp,

688
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 3: sitting there saying listen, I understand this is a business,

689
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 3: but I'm a business and I'm not taking that field

690
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,240
Speaker 3: until business is handled.

691
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 2: I think.

692
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Speaker 4: And you said it right, the new collective Bargaining Agreement.

693
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 4: Before when guys held out, those fines would just be forgiven.

694
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 2: Right.

695
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 4: It's fifty thousand dollars a day for missing mandatory team

696
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:03,720
Speaker 4: functions and that's what training camp is, man, And fifty

697
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,399
Speaker 4: thousand dollars a day adds up. So what you don't

698
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 4: want to do is hold out and incur a two

699
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 4: million dollars fine, I mean, and not have it forgiven

700
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Speaker 4: just off the top of my head.

701
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 3: Now, no one will accuse me of being a mathematician,

702
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 3: but that sounds like a quarter of a million dollars

703
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 3: a week. Yes, yeah, If somebody find me like that,

704
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:30,760
Speaker 3: I just run for the border.

705
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 4: And so you have to find ways to still try

706
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 4: to keep your your your leverage and negotiations as a

707
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 4: player being at home and just hanging out. Remember Ezekiel

708
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 4: Ela was in Cabo, and you know a lot of

709
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 4: guys just just hang out. That's no longer the case.

710
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 4: So the whole d in is the new thing to do.

711
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 4: Everybody who had a grievance or wanted a new contract

712
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 4: is training camp because it costs real live dollars, not

713
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 4: imaginary dollars anymore. And so guys aren't willing to cough

714
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 4: up that type of money whether they get a new

715
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,280
Speaker 4: deal or not, right because there's a chance you won't

716
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 4: get the deal that you're looking for, but you still

717
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 4: have to pay out for missing that time. So guys

718
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 4: they look, I'm gonna come to work, but I'm not

719
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 4: gonna work. Essentially, I'm gonna show up. I'm gonna punch

720
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Speaker 4: the clock, but I'm not gonna put myself in a

721
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Speaker 4: position where i can hurt myself and jeopardize my long

722
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Speaker 4: term future.

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Speaker 2: In training camp at least.

724
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Speaker 3: Every so often from a reading article like in the

725
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 3: I'm an Apple News subscriber, so I forget I'm not

726
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 3: sure where I read it at May Vanity Fair, The

727
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 3: New Yorker, The Atlantic, something like that. But it'll be

728
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Speaker 3: somewhere along in that vein of places.

729
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Speaker 2: Right.

730
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Speaker 3: And I was reading about this a couple of years ago,

731
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Speaker 3: this concept of quiet quitting, which I was the most outrageous,

732
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 3: ridiculous concept of my entire life. You mean to tell me,

733
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 3: if I am not going above and beyond that my job,

734
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 3: it is now deemed as quitting.

735
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 2: Right. If all I'm doing is.

736
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Speaker 3: Going and doing the things that are lifted on the

737
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Speaker 3: job duties on the application, I am now deemed as

738
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,240
Speaker 3: a quitter. I hated it. This was wrong with this country.

739
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 3: This is quiet quitting, This is hold in is quiet quitting.

740
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 3: Like I'm not gonna I'm not participating in the drills.

741
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 3: I will sit here. Like you saw Michael Parson's walking

742
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 3: around with his hoodie on. He's in Oxnard, California. He's

743
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,919
Speaker 3: gotta work real hard to keep that hood on his head.

744
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 3: It's hot out there.

745
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. Like he's like this, I

746
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 2: kind of like the attitude of like, listen.

747
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Speaker 3: You will all will jerk me around with my contract

748
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 3: for years, Like Trey Henderson has been fighting for a

749
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 3: new deal, for even the old deal he had to

750
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 3: fight for.

751
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 2: He feels like he should be getting on this one.

752
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 3: Right. Yeah, so I don't necessarily dislike this, but it

753
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 3: feels like something that could just really sew a discontent

754
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 3: in a locker room.

755
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 4: Not because I think the guys in the locker room understand.

756
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 4: That's the one thing that that other players understand when

757
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 4: it comes to players negotiation and the value that that

758
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,760
Speaker 4: player brings to the team. Right, if you're the starter

759
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 4: and you bring a certain level of value at that

760
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 4: spot to your team, and your team feels that they

761
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 4: need you to win, then they don't have a problem

762
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 4: with the whole in They understand the business of it.

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00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 4: They understand that not all contracts are guaranteed and you

764
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 4: can get hurt permanently on every single play. The you know,

765
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 4: the percentage of or the chance of you being hurt

766
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 4: on a football player is higher than I believe any

767
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 4: other team sport that has to So they know, they

768
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 4: know when it's all all said and done, when the

769
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Speaker 4: regular season starts, that person will be James will be there,

770
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Speaker 4: He'll be available, Trade will be there, He'll be available.

771
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 4: Michael Parsons will be there and be available. And that's

772
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Speaker 4: because they understand that. Look, this is when the rubber

773
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 4: meets the road. Like you can posture in the offseason

774
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 4: when there's nothing on the line, but when those games

775
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 4: are on the line, then guys are gonna show up

776
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 4: in their play and they'll play out there last year

777
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 4: of their contract, and they'll play with the mindset of

778
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 4: this is my contract year. I'm going now because you

779
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,479
Speaker 4: didn't want to give me what I feel I owed

780
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 4: or what I think I've earned, then I'm gonna make

781
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Speaker 4: it impossible for you.

782
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 2: Now.

783
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,720
Speaker 3: So now I'm gonna go try to have a year

784
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 3: where you always talk here, guys in their contract year,

785
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 3: they want to have their best year ever because that

786
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 3: means those numbers go up when it's time for negotiation

787
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Speaker 3: in the offseason.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

789
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's more of a thing you hear about in

790
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 3: the NBA more. I think the contract here true. They

791
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 3: do have guaranteed money, which is especially now you.

792
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 2: Hear these old player podcasts being like take the money, now,

793
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 2: what are you doing? Uh? You said they leaders, hold in,

794
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 2: hold out, they understand. We'll see.

795
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 1: Don't listen to Fox Sports Radio.

796
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 2: That's right.

797
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 3: Martin wiss, Ephram Salam here and a Fox Sports Sunday

798
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 3: broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios, and uh,

799
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Speaker 3: you know, we see this play out just about every

800
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 3: single summer, you know, heat waves, summer storms, you know,

801
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 3: blockbusters at the movies and Jerry Jones and one of

802
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 3: his star players fighting over a contract negotiation.

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Speaker 2: By Groundhog's Day.

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00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 3: You know, this one part three of the three part

805
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 3: trilogy of this generation or this era. They'll probably have

806
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 3: a remake down the line of Jerry's up there long enough.

807
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 3: But he had it before with the Marcus Lawrence and

808
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 3: so on and so forth. Dak Prescott two years ago,

809
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 3: Ceedee Lamb last year, Michael Parsons this year. But you

810
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 3: said something to me in the last segment that I

811
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 3: was like, you know, this is the type of insight

812
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 3: that former athletes, especially the ones that are also also

813
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 3: great at media like yourself, can really truly provide. And

814
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 3: when it was everybody knows that it's a business, right, everybody,

815
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 3: both the players and the coaches and the GA. Everybody

816
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 3: knows that it's a business. And anybody who's not aware

817
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 3: of that or keeping that in mind is just.

818
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 2: Lying to themselves.

819
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 3: And so when Michael Parsons goes full notes app yes

820
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Speaker 3: or two days ago whenever it was, he requests the trade,

821
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Speaker 3: and he says, I came to you guys two years

822
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 3: ago when they were up doing it. Everybody knows that

823
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 3: it's a business, right. Everybody knows that is in that

824
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 3: locker room that if Michael went up there, it's like

825
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 3: essentially approaching two years ago. For a guy on the

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Speaker 3: Michael Parsons track at that time can be obstensibly viewed

827
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 3: as a pay cut.

828
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 2: Right.

829
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 3: If he plays out his rookie deal, he would be

830
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Speaker 3: getting more if everything stayed the same.

831
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Speaker 4: No, do you agree with that premise? Is that right

832
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 4: or wrong to you? I just know two years ago

833
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 4: teams very rarely do that.

834
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 2: Now.

835
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:43,760
Speaker 4: Jerry got bitten in the butt by painting someone early

836
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 4: two years prior to having to in Ezekiel Elliott right,

837
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Speaker 4: and he didn't improve any year after that, he got worse.

838
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 4: So I can see how Micah's like, hey, I'm on

839
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 4: this trajectory, pay me now, but go ahead. And there

840
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 4: were more pressing deals that needed to be done in

841
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:13,280
Speaker 4: terms of DAK, in terms of CD before MICHAEH.

842
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 2: Parsons.

843
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 4: So you have to understand, even though it sounds good

844
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 4: that Micah went in there and preemptively told him, hey,

845
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:25,240
Speaker 4: sign me to a longer term deal now and it'll

846
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 4: cost you less. Essentially, they weren't going to do that

847
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 4: because they knew they had them for the next two years,

848
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 4: the next three years, no matter what.

849
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Speaker 3: Right, I don't have to pay more for what I

850
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 3: already have right now.

851
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 4: Now, what they should have done, though, is they should

852
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 4: have paid him towards the end of the season or

853
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 4: at the beginning of the off season, and they would

854
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 4: have set the market, and then everyone else would have,

855
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 4: you know, been beating the market opposed to now them

856
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 4: coming in and the market's been set by TJ. And

857
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 4: now they got a pony up at least a million

858
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 4: more of whatever that number is for TJ. And the

859
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 4: second thing they could have done if they weren't planning

860
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 4: on signing him, is his trade value.

861
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 2: Was through the roof prior to the draft.

862
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 4: They could have got a king's ransom, right, but they

863
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 4: chose not to do that as well. And so I'm

864
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 4: just scratching my head. And now everybody says, this is

865
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 4: what Jerry does. He ends up paying his stars no

866
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 4: matter what. But at this point, if you pay three

867
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Speaker 4: players that amount of money, you don't have much of

868
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 4: a roster to compete with. So I don't know if

869
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 4: it's about are the Dallas Cowboys looking to compete and

870
00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 4: a division where Philly has run away with it? And oh,

871
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 4: by the way, there's another team and the Commanders that

872
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 4: is now poised to compete with Philly for that opposed

873
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 4: to Dallas being in the mix. Is Dallas going to

874
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 4: be third or fourth in that division? That's the thing

875
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:29,280
Speaker 4: that this type of negotiation and and and and procrastination

876
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 4: that Jerry has has has put his team in the

877
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 4: middle of.

878
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,919
Speaker 3: And I definitely think the first and if you look

879
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 3: division wise, Philadelphia is looking down at everything happening below them.

880
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 2: Absolute laughing but laughing.

881
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 4: I mean you got to remember who they played in

882
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 4: the NMC championship game.

883
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 3: Now, I'm not knocking that, but they are definitely looking

884
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 3: down from their ivory tower and being like ha ha ha.

885
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:54,399
Speaker 2: Right.

886
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 3: So, but to go back to the Micah and Jerry thing, right,

887
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,439
Speaker 3: you go through three years ago or two years ago,

888
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 3: both sides say. Micah says, I want a deal. Jerry

889
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 3: says no. Everybody can understand that. Everybody can understand that. Okay,

890
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 3: the next year comes. Now we're year four of this.

891
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, and it's like, hey, wait

892
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 3: a minute, Like generally these are when these kind of deals,

893
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 3: when you're top of the market, guys like the Justin

894
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 3: Jefferson's soul ones. These are like when we really start

895
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 3: to like we're having this conversation earnestly.

896
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 2: Now, We're not just turning you down regardless.

897
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 3: Maybe we can come to terms here, maybe we can't,

898
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 3: but like we're gonna have a real conversation here.

899
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 2: For whatever reason, it seems like from that moment to now.

900
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 3: That this one feels different to me, and it feels

901
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 3: different than the DAK negotiations. It feels different than the

902
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 3: CD negotiations because while we all had the feeling that

903
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 3: DAK was gonna get paid, CD was gonna get paid, right,

904
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 3: there was a little melody drama around it, but we

905
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 3: all kind of had the feeling, and we all again

906
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 3: agree that Michael Parsons probably will get paid when this

907
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 3: is all said and done. It feels to me that

908
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:15,839
Speaker 3: this is the first time that the Cowboys are in.

909
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 2: The position where this is both your.

910
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:22,720
Speaker 3: Best option and also a top two or three option

911
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 3: in the league. Right, you paid that because that's the

912
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 3: best quarterback you got and it's gonna be real hard

913
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 3: to find better than him. I like CD, lamb. This

914
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 3: is not a slight to him, but he's the best

915
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 3: receiver you got. He's not the best receiver in the

916
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 3: league right justin Jefferson, Jabar Chase, they all would like

917
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 3: to have a word, But CED's the best you got.

918
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 3: You're not gonna find any And CD's credit, he is

919
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 3: in the top three four. You're saying you're not gonna

920
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 3: find no better than the CD. Right, you know what

921
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 3: I'm saying, You can't. You know you're not gonna find

922
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 3: out done the market for it. Michael Parsons is arguably

923
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 3: in the under thirty division the best pass rusher in

924
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 3: the league, right up there with the I think t

925
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 3: wipe up in twenty nine, so under twenty nine to it, Like,

926
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. For that, how does Miles Garrett?

927
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 3: I think Miles Garrett is thirty Okay, yep, I'll put

928
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 3: it like this. For the guy goes he's the micl

929
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 3: what twenty five, twenty six six, He's the best pass

930
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 3: rusher going into the second contract. Those guys are on

931
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 3: their third deal.

932
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 9: Mis Garrett is twenty nine, by the way twenty nine.

933
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 9: All right, fex Crosby, I would add, I think he's

934
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 9: in the under twenty eight.

935
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 3: Oh, phrasy like this is fair, this is this is true.

936
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 3: He's the best pass rusher going into his second contract. Yes,

937
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 3: he's the best pass rusher who's in this spot. Yes, right,

938
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 3: that makes sense. Yeah, he's average, you know, well over

939
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 3: twelve sacks a year for the first four years. Fifty

940
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 3: two and a half sacks I think he has in

941
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:46,240
Speaker 3: four years. So he's on par with those that level

942
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 3: of talent coming off the edge. And to go with

943
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 3: the idea that it's a business, it makes sense to

944
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 3: haggle with the Dak Prescott, It makes sense to haggle

945
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 3: with the side Lamb even it to me, don't make

946
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 3: no sense to haggle with the Michael Parsons.

947
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I don't think. I don't think they have

948
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 4: the bandwidth to give Michael what he wants. That's why

949
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 4: either you sign him early or you trade them, because

950
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 4: now they can't I don't know if they can afford

951
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 4: to pay him TJ. Watt money. That's what it's gonna be, right,

952
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:27,399
Speaker 4: And so I mean that's a steep price tag for

953
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 4: an ed Rusher, and you have so much more money,

954
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 4: so much more of your cap allocated to two other guys. Like,

955
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 4: that's a situation where I liken it to what since

956
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 4: going on in Cincinnati with with Tray they opted to

957
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 4: go offense instead of defense. Now they finally got their

958
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 4: first round draft pick, Stewart signed to a guaranteed four year,

959
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 4: eighteen million dollar deal.

960
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 2: I believe it is. But you know they're all pro

961
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 2: d n Trey is.

962
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 4: They gave the money to the receivers, right, So if

963
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 4: three guys on the offensive side eating, including smoking Joe

964
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 4: and so where Cincinnati is a historically cheap franchise, So

965
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 4: even if Joe Burrow comes out like, hey, we need

966
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 4: him pay him his money, at a certain point, ownership

967
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 4: is gonna be like, I don't know, And I think

968
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 4: there's a little bit of a correlation there with Dallas

969
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 4: unless they know they can't compete in the division for

970
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 4: the next couple of years. If they understand that and

971
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 4: they want to keep Micah and keep them happy, then

972
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 4: they'll do something that really strips away any ability for

973
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 4: them to compete and build a roster that can compete

974
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 4: in a division that don't get better. But that's the

975
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 4: thing that I and again, as much as my training

976
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 4: camp experience is limited to reading the newspaper, you'll be

977
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:13,720
Speaker 4: shocked to find out my GM experience is credibly similar.

978
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:20,240
Speaker 4: But I just don't understand the idea of players as assets,

979
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 4: which is a little bit of an uncomfortable conversation I have.

980
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 4: But if you have, if you know like that last year,

981
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 4: these conversations at the at the you know, the year four, generally,

982
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 4: when these conversations are starting to happen, you know you

983
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:38,879
Speaker 4: don't have the bandwidth to give them what you want then,

984
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 4: or at least I put it like this, you should

985
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 4: know that you don't have the bandwidth necessarily give him

986
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 4: what he's looking for in that moment. I just have

987
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 4: trouble with the idea of like, why is he still

988
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:51,240
Speaker 4: a cowboy?

989
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 3: Why don't you trade him? Why don't you get two

990
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 3: first round picks? Why is that is that just Jerry

991
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 3: literally asleep at the eighty.

992
00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 2: Year old wheel.

993
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 4: I believe it is, like I said, if they were

994
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:06,439
Speaker 4: unsure about if they were going to do this, then

995
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 4: trading him right before the draft that I mean, that

996
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 4: would have been an all time high in terms of

997
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 4: value teams would have definitely given up first round draft

998
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 4: picks a couple of them to get a Micah Parsons

999
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 4: on their team, and you missed that window. So now

1000
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 4: you're kind of like in limbo. Now Mica is under contract,

1001
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 4: he has to play. But say he goes out and

1002
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 4: has an all Pro year and he leads the league

1003
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 4: in sacks, You've just now walked yourself into a situation

1004
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 4: where you almost can't walk away from. And so, like

1005
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 4: I said, if you're okay with just signing the guys

1006
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 4: that you drafted and the guys that you like, then

1007
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 4: go right ahead. Strain that cap as much as you can,

1008
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 4: but you're not going to be able to put a

1009
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 4: viable competing team around him.

1010
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:02,399
Speaker 3: And the well, you know, you wonder if they're how

1011
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 3: I mean, that's a team prior to last season. I

1012
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 3: think this it's up there with like thirty six regular

1013
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:11,760
Speaker 3: season wins.

1014
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,800
Speaker 2: I think the Chiefs were the only team that had more.

1015
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 3: And like prior to last year, the thirty six regular

1016
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 3: season wins at the Cowboys that had in the last

1017
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 3: three years twelve and five total and five twelve and

1018
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 3: five and then for five and twelve last year might

1019
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 3: without uh Mike McCarthy's last season, but that to the

1020
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 3: point the ross was talented.

1021
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and even.

1022
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 4: Which is a more glaring thing, the inexperience of the

1023
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 4: new head coach, like, we don't know what this iteration

1024
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 4: of the Cowboys will look like. So going into a

1025
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 4: season or into training camp with the Micah Parsons thing

1026
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 4: hanging over, a new regime taking over, who are the

1027
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 4: Dallas Cowboys and what are they aspiring to be?

1028
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,760
Speaker 2: Well, the good thing that we know is that Jerry

1029
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:07,760
Speaker 2: really took his time and really evaluated.

1030
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 3: A ton of possible prospects to go ahead and lock

1031
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 3: up that head coaching job.

1032
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 2: To make sure he really vetted everybody.

1033
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 3: You know, he left out of his office, knocked on

1034
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 3: the head coach's door that Mike McCarthy had just left

1035
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 3: and said, oh, he's not there anymore, locked the next door,

1036
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:25,879
Speaker 3: and then one door down and said, hey, Shoddy.

1037
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 2: What are you doing next year? Yeah you want to? Okay, yeah,

1038
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 2: you're parking in the head coach spot now, but we're

1039
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 2: gonna see you know.

1040
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,479
Speaker 3: Did you hear the like as in his quicker shot?

1041
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 3: Did you hear some of the stuff out of this

1042
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 3: some of the Cowboys press out of training camp about

1043
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:47,280
Speaker 3: Brian Schottenheimer, how they were having him called in for meetings,

1044
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 3: and then after a while Shottenheimer guy, I guess quote

1045
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 3: unquote caught on to the fact that these were like

1046
00:55:55,280 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 3: clandestine interviews and started dressing nicer at work. I'm telling

1047
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 3: it was reported that way, I promise, unless it was

1048
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 3: like one of those Adam Schefter with the one on

1049
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 3: Twitter that maybe I'm pretty sure I've seen that the

1050
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 3: transcripts with the press conference that he was just showing

1051
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 3: up the work with the I guess, with the backward

1052
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 3: hat visor on instead of the vibe.

1053
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 2: And then he's like, you know, hey.

1054
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 3: This is the fourth time in two weeks Jerry's called

1055
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 3: me down to the office.

1056
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 2: Maybe I should turn this visor front wace, put a

1057
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 2: button up on. I'll go get that, go over the

1058
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 2: great clips, get a haircut, like I'll tell you.

1059
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 3: You know what though, Dallas Will Dallas, you know that Jerry,

1060
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 3: and we're talking about I commend you my friend, not

1061
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 3: in a good way, but we're talking about.

1062
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 2: Him, you know what as a quick fifteen second moment.

1063
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 3: As more private equity and all this buys into sports,

1064
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:53,240
Speaker 3: and we lose more and more of these characters. Jerry,

1065
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 3: more power to you, my friend. Keep on doing you

1066
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 3: because I'd like to keep on doing my job, all right.

1067
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 3: Coming up next, one of those other competitors in the NFCS.

1068
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:07,240
Speaker 3: It was all roses last year. But do those rosies

1069
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 3: really smell the same or we have an outcast situation

1070
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 3: on our hands.

1071
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 2: We'll get to that, coming up next, Martin Wise.

1072
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 3: Ephram Salam coming to you live from the Fox Sports

1073
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 3: Radio studios.

1074
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 2: Ephraim.

1075
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 3: So, I didn't play college sports at all. Shocking nothing,

1076
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 3: I mean intramurals, So yeah, nothing at all.

1077
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 4: What's your what's your sports background? What's your sports journey?

1078
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 2: Like? High school? What? Yeah?

1079
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 8: I play?

1080
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 2: I was on the basketball team.

1081
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 3: I was on the varsity team as a freshman in

1082
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 3: Louisiana and then Hurricane Katrina happened, and then having to

1083
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 3: play sophomore year on JV which was backwards, right, But

1084
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 3: then I ended up getting back up to varsity as

1085
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 3: a junior and senior.

1086
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 2: And I was a high jumper. Okay, yeah, I could

1087
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 2: up and I could shoot the dribbling, you know what

1088
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 2: I'm saying. That was whoa. I got to bounce the

1089
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 2: ball and run.

1090
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 4: So what you're saying, is they have to put the

1091
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 4: ball down on the ground, it comes back up and

1092
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 4: move forward.

1093
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I was like a.

1094
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 3: You know if Marcus Smart was like a couple of

1095
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 3: inches taller, Yeah, you could like was just jumping through

1096
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 3: the Like that was me. I could jump, but like

1097
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 3: the coordination to then don't get yeah, and then the

1098
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 3: dribbling to go dun't get come.

1099
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 8: I just like that.

1100
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 9: They put you on on the freshman varsity team and

1101
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 9: then there and then after you're they're like.

1102
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 2: No, it was two different schools. It was two different Yeah,

1103
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 2: he was in Katrina. His school was probably gone. Okay,

1104
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 2: well now I feel bad.

1105
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,919
Speaker 3: Way to go in, way to go, and I will

1106
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 3: say historic catastrophe. You just piled on the division, I

1107
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 3: suppose whatever you would call it in high school division

1108
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 3: division right that I was in did have guys who

1109
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 3: played in the NBA. The best player I played against

1110
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 3: personally was DJ Augustine. Okay who Yeah, it was actually

1111
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 3: the guy who let me know that this wasn't for you, well,

1112
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 3: that this was for me, but anything else going forward,

1113
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 3: Like I could play high school, but like he let

1114
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 3: me know that I won't go play nothing else. Oh okay,

1115
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 3: but the blessed was told you, Oh, no, he had

1116
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 3: to tell He didn't have to tell me nothing. He

1117
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 3: just had to go out there and play. And it

1118
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 3: was like, oh, you got fourteen, you remember. I remember

1119
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 3: he wore fourteen, brother Martin fourteen red and white. And

1120
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 3: it was like, oh, I'll never forget that he had

1121
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 3: a broken finger on the right hand. Okay, it's a

1122
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:44,439
Speaker 3: summer league game, so there's a running clock, the forty

1123
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 3: minute running clocks. Who twenty minute has he had like

1124
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 3: fifty points and he didn't shoot any jump shots with

1125
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 3: his right hand. Oh gosh, he's right handed.

1126
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Oh, Man, when you see

1127
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 2: stuff like that, he's like, you know, it's like ooh.

1128
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 3: And the team I played for, we were a good

1129
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 3: a good team like Competer for state championships. Like it

1130
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 3: was a good team, had players who played division ie. Uh,

1131
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 3: most of the guys played football going forward. But the

1132
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 3: guys who played four years high SEC football what used

1133
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 3: to be pack twelve football, so like real athletes that

1134
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 3: were really out and no, no, it was he he

1135
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 3: let me know it was over, you know, But that

1136
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 3: was honestly, I looked at it as a benefit Okay,

1137
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 3: because like seriously I am. I am like at the time,

1138
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 3: like six three whatever you call me whatever, the same

1139
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 3: high I am now one hundred and sixty five pounds.

1140
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 3: And I'm going in practice against guys like Chris Marquis,

1141
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 3: who played running back at UCLA for four years. That's

1142
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 3: why I'm practicing against a running back who walked into

1143
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 3: US as a freshman and is starting. Chris Brown walked

1144
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 3: into Tennessee as a freshman and is playing on the

1145
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 3: offensive at full Formers Tennessee as a freshman. And these

1146
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 3: are the guys who have to like basketball training camp, wall,

1147
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 3: football season still going on. This is what I'm really getting.

1148
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 3: Minutes then fresh then they come and all of a sudden,

1149
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 3: I'm the seventh man, you know what I'm saying.

1150
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 2: But they it was it was beneficial to me.

1151
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 3: And you never played any football. No, my mom wouldn't

1152
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 3: let me. But honestly, you see them boys out there.

1153
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 3: I would have the athlete that I was mentally and

1154
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 3: the athletes that I was physically were two different things.

1155
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 2: I would have broken.

1156
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 3: Myself playing football because I would have been a crash dummy.

1157
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 2: That was a crash.

1158
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 3: I've been playing basketball that at least you were smart

1159
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 3: enough to understand that and be aware of that. You know, Yeah,

1160
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 3: I would have Yeah, there's no chance, man, I would

1161
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 3: have no way, no way, But that was the better

1162
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 3: for the hay I member Chris Brown boxing me out.

1163
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 2: I'd be in the street, you know what I'm saying.

1164
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 3: These type of things that you're watching people like you

1165
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 3: see the every so often you see a training camp

1166
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 3: video of a tight end just blocking somebody into the

1167
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 3: stands and knocking over the gatorade.

1168
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 2: Imagine it was basketball. We're not wearing pain, and he's

1169
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 2: backwards to me doing it before. So I saw the

1170
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 2: benefit of knowing.

1171
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 4: All right, So when we come back from from from

1172
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 4: this spectacular update from our very own Steve Ian, we're

1173
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 4: going to dig into your athletic background, since you have

1174
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 4: so much to say about Mart's here. Okay, we're going

1175
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:25,440
Speaker 4: to We're going to get in it and see what

1176
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 4: was going on in your high school. I think the

1177
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 4: spoiler is that none of the stuff that me or

1178
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 4: Ian was doing. Whatever makes Steve the Seger's update, no

1179
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 4: matter how slow, to be.

1180
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 12: Accurate, Yeah, likely, I think that's all of us in

1181
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:41,439
Speaker 12: the office. Actually, by the way, in case you didn't

1182
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 12: see it. The new Hall of Fame class for Pro

1183
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 12: Football wasn't shrine in Canton yesterday. Antonio Gates, Eric Allen,

1184
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 12: Jared Allen, Sterling Sharp. Possible Hall of Famers one year

1185
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 12: from now include Drew Brees, Larry Fitzgerald, and coach Bill Belichick.

1186
01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 12: Because coaches don't have to wait as long as players.

1187
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 12: Bill's running back James Cook sat out practice today he

1188
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 12: wants a contract extension. Steelers linebacker Alex Highsmith left practice

1189
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:10,760
Speaker 12: with a groin injury. Eagles wide receiver Aj Brown miss

1190
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 12: practice with a hamstring injury. The Dolphins gave defensive tackle

1191
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:17,320
Speaker 12: Zach Sealer a three year extension where forty four million

1192
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 12: dollars guaranteed. The forty nine Ers signed veteran wide receiver

1193
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 12: Robbie Chosen. Wide receiver of Buffalo Khalul Shakira as week

1194
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 12: to week with a high ankle. Spring Colts running back

1195
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 12: Savon Achmed suffered a severe leg injury at practice after

1196
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 12: a hip drop tackle by a teammate. His leg was

1197
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 12: put in an air cast and he left on a stretcher.

1198
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 12: Most teams start their exhibition scheduled this week. We already

1199
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 12: had the Hall of Fame Game Chargers over the Lions

1200
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 12: this past week. Five WNBA games today, including wins for

1201
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 12: New York and Indiana, even though superstars Breonna Stewart and

1202
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 12: Caitlin Clark are each out still due to injuries. In fact,

1203
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 12: the Indiana Fever without Clark had won five games in

1204
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 12: a row. The league is off on Monday. Trinity Rodman

1205
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 12: returned from a back injury to score the late game

1206
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 12: winner on the pitch as Washington defeated Portland two to one.

1207
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 12: She'd missed nearly four months. In the NWSL, NASCAR victory

1208
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 12: at Iowa for William Byron his first win since the

1209
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 12: Daytona five hundred and February, and he was this close

1210
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 12: to running out of gas. He ran out of fuel

1211
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 12: during the celebration. In fact, Cameron Young was the PGA

1212
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 12: winner in North Carolina, his first PGA title career.

1213
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 2: On this tour.

1214
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:28,919
Speaker 12: There, and yes, we do have a final from Philadelphia

1215
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 12: silently for this show well, bat Asilent is the Tigers

1216
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 12: offense tonight. The Tigers did not win on the road,

1217
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 12: Phillies two nothing.

1218
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:36,920
Speaker 2: The final.

1219
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 12: Kyle Schwarber with his thirty eighth home run of the season.

1220
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 12: Charlie Morton is still pitching in the Majors. Had six innings,

1221
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 12: six strikeouts, just one run aloud, but takes the loss

1222
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 12: for the Tigers. San Francisco was a twelve to four

1223
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 12: winner at the Mets, who were first place in the

1224
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 12: NL East to start the day, now a half game

1225
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 12: back of the Phillies and the standings at Bristol Motor Speedway.

1226
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 12: They finished up the game in Tennessee that had been

1227
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 12: suspended by rain Saturday night. In the first inning, Braves

1228
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 12: beat the Reds four to two. Today victories for the

1229
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 12: Dodgers and Padres wins for the Brewers and the Cubs.

1230
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 12: The Chicago win at Wrigley was five to three over

1231
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 12: Baltimore on a two run homer in the bottom of

1232
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 12: the ninth by former Dodger Justin Turner. The Angels were

1233
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 12: down five nothing in the six but did win in

1234
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 12: Anaheim eighty five against the White Sox on a three

1235
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:25,920
Speaker 12: run homer bottom of the ninth. The White Sox have

1236
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 12: a record of forty two and seventy, but the Rockies

1237
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 12: lost at home. Pittsburgh beat him nine to five. The

1238
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 12: Rockies record thirty and eighty one.

1239
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 3: Back to you You know Steve Charlie Morton, yes, still pitching,

1240
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 3: one of the Tigers' illustrious addctions that trade.

1241
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 2: That line, they were also win on au Hennio Suarez.

1242
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 12: Who slugger went to Seattle, you know, likely would to.

1243
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 3: Play you know, third base or shortstop, one of the

1244
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 3: two on this Tiger's roster.

1245
01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 2: You know.

1246
01:05:57,280 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 3: Interestingly enough, the Tigers who brought him up, developed him,

1247
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 3: got him into the league, and then made a trendous

1248
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 3: trade with Cincinnati to let Suarez go for a pitcher,

1249
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 3: infamously Alfredo Simone, who did not know they had the

1250
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 3: worst ra in baseball when he pitched for the Tigers

1251
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 3: for a single season.

1252
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 12: Well, you know, Suarez for all the thirty homer seasons,

1253
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 12: always looks like he can hit about ten every season.

1254
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 12: There is that danger, but I'll take the thirty homers.

1255
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 12: I mean, but the Tigers are in a division where

1256
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 12: they could sleepwalk the next month and maybe still win

1257
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:35,440
Speaker 12: the division by ten games.

1258
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 2: And I think that's what Scott Harris thought.

1259
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:38,920
Speaker 3: But like, if you want this team to be a

1260
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 3: real World Series competitor, between the outside of what is

1261
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 3: it from Andy Banya is at third today, Hobby Bias

1262
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 3: is shortened labor Torres at second one for eleven and

1263
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:52,000
Speaker 3: a game against the Phillies.

1264
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:54,439
Speaker 2: Do you know what, The Phillies are a really good team.

1265
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 12: Absolutely, The Phillies could be a team in the NL

1266
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:02,480
Speaker 12: that takes around by away from the Dodgers, for example,

1267
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:05,480
Speaker 12: just as the Tigers, if they sleep walk too much,

1268
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 12: won't be getting a first round by in the American League.

1269
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 2: And I get it, I get it. The Twins quit

1270
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 2: the Guardians half don't.

1271
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 12: Know what you just mentioned. With the baseball trade deadline

1272
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 12: this week, the Minnesota Twins literally traded about half their

1273
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 12: major league roster.

1274
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, they legit did.

1275
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 3: They did like a Charlotte Hornet's last month of the

1276
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 3: season type of move, like Washington Wizards last month of

1277
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 3: the season type of move.

1278
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 12: It was kind of like a Marlins we just won

1279
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 12: the World Series title, let's break up.

1280
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 2: The team time.

1281
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:41,919
Speaker 3: So the Twins just sold everybody. The Guardians are being

1282
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 3: indicted left and right. The White Socks are the White Sox.

1283
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 12: They Guardians cleaned out the locker of the closer who's

1284
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 12: on quote paid leaves.

1285
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:52,440
Speaker 2: Class right, who was again a guy who was like

1286
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:55,000
Speaker 2: a trade a gem.

1287
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:57,440
Speaker 3: People were thinking about a guy who was gonna move

1288
01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 3: this deadline likely and they were like, no, he's moving somewhere,

1289
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 3: all right, moving the hell out of here.

1290
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 12: Seemingly every other closer that was eligible to play was

1291
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 12: delt before the trade deadline this past week. The Padres

1292
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 12: have four relievers from the All Star Game this year.

1293
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:15,480
Speaker 12: Four if if we get to the playoffs, and the

1294
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 12: Padres are looking like they'll be at minimum the last

1295
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 12: wildcard team, they don't even need a starting pitcher to

1296
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 12: throw five innings.

1297
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 2: They have that go to bullpen.

1298
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:27,759
Speaker 3: And in today's baseball hell, they don't even want starting

1299
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 3: pitchers to throw five innings.

1300
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 2: That as the fact, they don't even want you to.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm surprised to see old Charlie Morton go

1302
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 2: back out there for the sex love. But he actually

1303
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:40,080
Speaker 2: pitched well the second time through the order today. And

1304
01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 2: they're Elijah Baseball Minute with.

1305
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 3: So even we were talking about the Cowboys and Michael

1306
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 3: Parston's earlier in this hour, and.

1307
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:54,800
Speaker 4: But what we really were talking about our producer, Let's

1308
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:58,280
Speaker 4: do it Ian and his athletic prowess.

1309
01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:03,880
Speaker 2: He did. He did have joke, He had some jokes. Jokes. Yeah,

1310
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:07,720
Speaker 2: I don't worry, I can go back rewind it a

1311
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:08,320
Speaker 2: little bit for the.

1312
01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:12,559
Speaker 3: Audience, because I told the people in my athletic history

1313
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:16,599
Speaker 3: of making the varsity basketball and track teams as a freshman.

1314
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 2: And then this is the part that Ian missed. I

1315
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:21,040
Speaker 2: switched schools.

1316
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 3: They put me on JV basketball as a sophomore in Michigan,

1317
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:29,679
Speaker 3: I was on the varsity track team. However, the fact remains,

1318
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:34,920
Speaker 3: I did letter in at three or four years in

1319
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:38,600
Speaker 3: high school, lettered in two sports, one of you know,

1320
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:41,920
Speaker 3: obviously lettered in track my sophomore year. So I'm sure

1321
01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 3: that Ian, your letter jacket still fits right.

1322
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:50,679
Speaker 9: No, No, I was not a varsity track or basketball athlete.

1323
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 9: I was a sailor actually all throughout high school sail

1324
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 9: what now, Yeah, competitive sailing?

1325
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 2: Where did you go to high school?

1326
01:09:57,680 --> 01:10:01,519
Speaker 9: Northern California, San Francisco Bay. There did a lot of

1327
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 9: sailing up there.

1328
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:06,760
Speaker 2: Okay, a competitive sailor. That is something I've never heard of.

1329
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 2: How was it? How did that? How'd that go? Fun?

1330
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1331
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 9: I haven't done it in a while now because it's uh,

1332
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 9: not something I felt I wanted to go or maybe

1333
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 9: even could have gone pro in.

1334
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 2: But can you go pro in?

1335
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:23,480
Speaker 9: There's the America's Cup, there's the Olympics, there's.

1336
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:26,439
Speaker 3: There's yeah, like a random you'll see it every so

1337
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 3: often June July. You turn on ESPN and there's people rowing.

1338
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:33,680
Speaker 3: I assume they're professional, But is there like, is there

1339
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 3: a pro rowing league?

1340
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:35,560
Speaker 9: No?

1341
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 2: Is there?

1342
01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:40,080
Speaker 9: Is it actually recently? I think they did not. I

1343
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:42,560
Speaker 9: don't know, you know what, I don't know.

1344
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 2: I don't know.

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01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:45,360
Speaker 9: Maybe it is lucrative, maybe it's not. But there actually

1346
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 9: is a sale GP. I think is like a recent

1347
01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 9: a recent development. There's like a league for it now

1348
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 9: and there's teams and I think it's by country.

1349
01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 2: Have you uh, oh, this might end badly if they

1350
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:01,679
Speaker 2: don't know what happened to me. Have you heard about

1351
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:04,639
Speaker 2: these people that tried to row across the Pacific Ocean?

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01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:08,919
Speaker 9: I am not They're not done a lot of rowing myself,

1353
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:14,760
Speaker 9: but I've heard it's super taxing physically, so across the

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01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 9: Pacific Ocean. Yeah, I don't know.

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01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 2: Yes, this these the McLean Brothers.

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01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 3: They are rolling across the Pacific Ocean to raise money

1357
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:27,240
Speaker 3: for clean water, and you could track where they are

1358
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:31,600
Speaker 3: and right now they are they're trying to get to

1359
01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:34,720
Speaker 3: Australia and they're a lot closer to Australia than they

1360
01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 3: are the last time I saw them.

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01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 2: But yeah, look, so they started in South America.

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01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 3: Oh wow, and what is that Peru? Probably yeah, all right,

1363
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 3: near Peru, Ecuador. I don't know, forgive me, but you

1364
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 3: look and they literally have rowed across the globe. So

1365
01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:58,759
Speaker 3: now they are near wherever Port Villa in the Pacific Ocean.

1366
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:01,200
Speaker 3: But they are a lot closer to Australia than it

1367
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 3: used to be. But like these people, they can't sleep.

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01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 3: You know, there's like four people on this boat. They've

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01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 3: got to sleep.

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01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 2: No, but like they sleep for like the uh I

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01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 2: listened to.

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01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 3: Ryan Roussillo did a like an in depth podcast you

1373
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:15,200
Speaker 3: could if you google it, did the Dune hits on

1374
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:18,360
Speaker 3: Good Morning American stuff. They sleep in ships, but they

1375
01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 3: can only sleep for like an hour at a time

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01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:21,680
Speaker 3: because they're in this rowboat. They're in the middle of

1377
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:24,640
Speaker 3: the Pacific Ocean. So it's like, you know, you know,

1378
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 3: I was sleeping then I hit my head on the

1379
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:30,799
Speaker 3: ceiling because a wave came. You know, that sounds awful.

1380
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:33,679
Speaker 3: I mean it doesn't sound like something I'd.

1381
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:34,719
Speaker 2: Like to do. That sounds awful.

1382
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:37,640
Speaker 9: Yes, good car.

1383
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 2: I respect the calls, but I'm gonna have to I'll

1384
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:43,680
Speaker 2: meet you all over there. Yeah, you know.

1385
01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 3: It kind of reminds me of my thought process generally,

1386
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:49,800
Speaker 3: when I can choose between a non stop or connecting flight.

1387
01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 3: It's like, when I'm in that connection, would I have

1388
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 3: paid the difference to skip this? If I'm like I'm

1389
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:58,639
Speaker 3: sitting in that Charlotte Airport, but I paid seventy five

1390
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:00,800
Speaker 3: dollars to just be where I want to go, I

1391
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:02,759
Speaker 3: would have paid a whole lot more than CENTI finalis

1392
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:06,080
Speaker 3: to not do this. But speaking of paying for what

1393
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 3: you want, the Washington commanders seem that they do not

1394
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 3: want to pay Terry McLaurin what he wants. And we

1395
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:13,680
Speaker 3: have these conversations all the time, Oh is he a

1396
01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 3: top five receiver? He's your top ten receiver. We're still

1397
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 3: workshopping the name of this thing, maybe spin the Wheel,

1398
01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:26,600
Speaker 3: Miss three box, whatever, But we're gonna go through the

1399
01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 3: wide receivers in the NFL and figure out exactly where

1400
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:33,640
Speaker 3: Scary Terry should be and if that money lines up,

1401
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:39,760
Speaker 3: we'll do that. Next Fox Sports Radio, Martin weiss E

1402
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:42,519
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1403
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:46,200
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1404
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:47,519
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1405
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:49,719
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1406
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:53,519
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1407
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:56,080
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1409
01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:00,640
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1410
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 3: iHeart apps.

1411
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 2: It'll pop up at the top of your screen.

1412
01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:07,840
Speaker 3: So if when we were talking about the NFC East

1413
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 3: a little bit, talking about how the Philadelphia Eagles are

1414
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:14,720
Speaker 3: looking down and just you know, just chuckling at the

1415
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:17,400
Speaker 3: everything that's going down.

1416
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:21,880
Speaker 4: They got a bird's eye view exactly right. See what

1417
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:22,760
Speaker 4: I've done there.

1418
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:29,680
Speaker 3: And we look at Dallas as an organization that, for

1419
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 3: whatever reason, I'll call it dysfunctional is.

1420
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:35,439
Speaker 2: A pretty good read. I think you know what I'm saying.

1421
01:14:35,439 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 2: They don't necessarily operate in the most efficient way historically.

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01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:46,439
Speaker 3: Another team in that division that's also been true of

1423
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:50,280
Speaker 3: is the Washington Commanders, who are now in this debate

1424
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 3: with Terry McLaurin. Are we sure that you think that

1425
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:57,720
Speaker 3: the Washington Commanders have turned a corner in like their organization,

1426
01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 3: because I know Jadon Daniels was really good last year,

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01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 3: and I know there's a lot of conversation about it,

1428
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 3: but you got to make this move for Deebo and

1429
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 3: now your wide receiver one from last year is not happy.

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01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:10,600
Speaker 4: Well I get that, but they have definitely turned the

1431
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 4: corner when when you look at new ownership and they

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01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 4: came in right away, brought in a stable coaching staff.

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01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:24,479
Speaker 4: They absolutely hit on the draft and found themselves in

1434
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:28,840
Speaker 4: the NFC Championship game running up against the division rival.

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01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:29,639
Speaker 2: I think.

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01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:36,000
Speaker 4: The fact that you know so much was put on

1437
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:40,760
Speaker 4: Jayden Daniel's plate and all he did was is really

1438
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:45,720
Speaker 4: excel and show why he is one of the top

1439
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 4: young prospects or the top young players in the league.

1440
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:55,720
Speaker 4: You know, as crazy as it seems, you know their

1441
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:59,840
Speaker 4: trajectory and their upside is enormous. Now the cliff on

1442
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:04,320
Speaker 4: the other side of that upside is also prevalent. It

1443
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:10,120
Speaker 4: likens to c J Stroud and Houston a year prior.

1444
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 4: But as bad a year as CJ and the Texans had,

1445
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:19,240
Speaker 4: they still made it the exact same place they did

1446
01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:23,360
Speaker 4: the second round of the playoffs and so and that's

1447
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:26,640
Speaker 4: what all their weapons being hurt. So in terms of

1448
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:30,840
Speaker 4: our Washington are the commanders the real deal. I believe

1449
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:33,720
Speaker 4: they're the real deal because I believe Jayden Daniels his

1450
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:37,720
Speaker 4: approach to the game is the real deal. And he's

1451
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:42,440
Speaker 4: shown nothing but leadership as a you know, rookie quarterback.

1452
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 4: And normally when you get that level of leadership out

1453
01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:51,679
Speaker 4: the gate, I think Andrew Luck, I think even Russell Wilson.

1454
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 4: When you look at that level of leadership out the

1455
01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:59,720
Speaker 4: gate as a rookie and that level of success, you

1456
01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:04,880
Speaker 4: know that that kind of paves the way for expectations.

1457
01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:08,000
Speaker 4: Now he's coming into the season with higher expectations, but

1458
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:10,559
Speaker 4: I don't think any of the expectations for him are

1459
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 4: higher than what he was able to put on himself

1460
01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 4: when he was coming out.

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01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:17,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think too. You look at his mindset, it

1462
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 2: seems to be.

1463
01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:22,800
Speaker 3: Right as what you'd like it to be. And if

1464
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:25,960
Speaker 3: it's not, I don't mean it's kind of funny. But

1465
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 3: his mom is right there to get him right back,

1466
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:30,639
Speaker 3: and we'll get him back in line. I can tell

1467
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:30,840
Speaker 3: you that.

1468
01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:32,120
Speaker 2: But let's go ahead and do this.

1469
01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 3: I personally think that, like top five list, a little

1470
01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 3: overrated at this point. I think I prefer the tears,

1471
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:41,439
Speaker 3: But also too, just like sometimes is this guy better

1472
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:43,880
Speaker 3: than that guy. Let's have a little bit of that

1473
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:46,560
Speaker 3: with Terry McLaurin right here. And why don't you go

1474
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:47,640
Speaker 3: ahead and set this up for us?

1475
01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:51,720
Speaker 9: Okay, so we're gonna start with a little bit of

1476
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:53,360
Speaker 9: NFL music just to set.

1477
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 2: The tone HEREO, tone setter.

1478
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:59,640
Speaker 9: Yeah, there we go, And essentially, I'm gonna name a

1479
01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:01,840
Speaker 9: bunch of receivers here, one after another for you guys,

1480
01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:03,439
Speaker 9: and you're gonna tell me whether you would rather have

1481
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:08,439
Speaker 9: that receiver or Terry McLaurin for your football team going forward,

1482
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:09,600
Speaker 9: for this, for this.

1483
01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:12,680
Speaker 3: Next for this next season, for this coming season, for

1484
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:13,719
Speaker 3: this upcoming season.

1485
01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:16,280
Speaker 9: All right, So let's start with this one. This would

1486
01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:18,400
Speaker 9: be a hot take if either of you took Terry

1487
01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 9: over this guy, I think. But how about Terry McLaurin

1488
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:25,759
Speaker 9: or Jamar Chase I'm taking, Yeah, Terry McLaurin or Justin Jefferson.

1489
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:27,920
Speaker 2: Jefferson, I'm taking Justin right.

1490
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:29,960
Speaker 9: Get the easy ones out of the way now, Terry

1491
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:32,000
Speaker 9: McLaurin or Tyreek Hill.

1492
01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:37,680
Speaker 2: You know, I take Tyreek. But again, let's take the

1493
01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:42,000
Speaker 2: microphone away. Just go run routes, buddy, Uh.

1494
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:44,839
Speaker 9: Terry McLaurin or Pooka Nakua.

1495
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:48,040
Speaker 2: I take Terry McLaurin.

1496
01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:52,240
Speaker 9: I think I take Terry first hesitation there, Yeah, I

1497
01:18:52,280 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 9: think I take Terry. How about Terry McLaurin or CD Lamb.

1498
01:18:57,160 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 9: I take CD Terry McLaurin or Malik Neighbors Special Terry

1499
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:08,759
Speaker 9: McLaurin or Nico Collins.

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01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:13,200
Speaker 2: Oh, I might have to go Terry has been more

1501
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 2: consistent with more quarterbacks. I go with Terry. Oh, I'd say.

1502
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:23,479
Speaker 9: Terry, Terry McLaurin, or Garrett Wilson.

1503
01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:28,559
Speaker 3: Now that Gary Wilson talking about consistency with a lot

1504
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 3: of quarterbacks, he blows that out of the water. I

1505
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:35,519
Speaker 3: go give me the old head from Ohio State, Terry

1506
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:36,800
Speaker 3: McLaurin over Gary Wilson.

1507
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:38,280
Speaker 4: But that one is a really close one for me.

1508
01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:41,519
Speaker 4: That is really close for me as well. But I'm

1509
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:43,120
Speaker 4: going Terry McLaurin.

1510
01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:47,479
Speaker 9: All right, How about Terry McLaurin or DK Metcalf, DK.

1511
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:51,479
Speaker 3: Really take give me Terry mcluy DK metcalf seems like

1512
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:52,760
Speaker 3: an unserious person to me.

1513
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:56,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't his catch radious?

1514
01:19:57,400 --> 01:19:57,439
Speaker 9: Is?

1515
01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:02,040
Speaker 2: I mean, it's crazy? His speed? Can't rady is his size? Oh?

1516
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 9: Yeah, you can't teach that and not teach that. How

1517
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:06,639
Speaker 9: about Terry McLaurin or T Higgins.

1518
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:11,720
Speaker 3: See, this is tough because if you just asked me

1519
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:15,320
Speaker 3: like T Higgins, I feel I want to say T Higgins,

1520
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:19,200
Speaker 3: but I've never seen T Higgins be the guy Capitol,

1521
01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:20,640
Speaker 3: T Capital, I got you.

1522
01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:24,679
Speaker 2: That's the thing. I seen Terry be the guy. I'm

1523
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:26,920
Speaker 2: going with T Higgins, though, I'll go with T Higgins.

1524
01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:30,960
Speaker 9: How about Terry McLaurin or Davante Adams for this coming season?

1525
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:35,960
Speaker 2: You go first.

1526
01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:44,280
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with Davante because he's got something to

1527
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:47,320
Speaker 3: prove right now. For one year, I take Davante. But

1528
01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:49,760
Speaker 3: if I'm going for like more than seventeen games, I

1529
01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:50,320
Speaker 3: want Terry.

1530
01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 9: Okay, I'm gonna spring a tough one on you guys,

1531
01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:55,160
Speaker 9: crunch for time. Terry McLaurin or DJ Moore.

1532
01:20:55,880 --> 01:21:00,320
Speaker 3: Ooh, Terry, I take Dj. I'll take Terry because Jo

1533
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:01,360
Speaker 3: walked up the field last year.

1534
01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:03,200
Speaker 2: You can't do that. That's bad.

1535
01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:06,439
Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio.

1536
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:10,839
Speaker 3: That's right, And we're broadcasting live from the Fox Sports

1537
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:14,920
Speaker 3: Radio studios here in Los Angeles, California, at seven o'clock

1538
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:18,960
Speaker 3: here ten o'clock Eastern as we rounding out the third

1539
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:21,839
Speaker 3: hour of this fine program. I'm in for Mark Willard,

1540
01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:25,720
Speaker 3: keeping the seat warm, joined here with Ephraim Salaam, who

1541
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:29,439
Speaker 3: you know is the true you know, the the athlete

1542
01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:32,720
Speaker 3: on the program. Here, I'm the talking jack hole who

1543
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:35,200
Speaker 3: pretends to know what he's talking about. But I will

1544
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 3: say this an athlete to listen, all athletes except for Ian.

1545
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:47,680
Speaker 2: I mean, I got you know, what is it?

1546
01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:53,320
Speaker 3: I don't say sewing sailing Failing definitely is a that

1547
01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:57,240
Speaker 3: feels like a hobby, not a skill. It's hard to sail,

1548
01:21:57,320 --> 01:22:00,560
Speaker 3: I will tell you that, but I mean, you know,

1549
01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:03,160
Speaker 3: it could be hard to play. But but do you

1550
01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:05,720
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, it's not you know anyway, I'm

1551
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:09,439
Speaker 3: just being funny. Sailing is also plus two. You could trown,

1552
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:12,040
Speaker 3: so that's no good scary.

1553
01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:13,000
Speaker 2: You guys wear live.

1554
01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:21,559
Speaker 14: Vests, yes, but like not particularly buoyant ones. Oh wait,

1555
01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:25,799
Speaker 14: lifevest in like just for going swimming, No, and sailing.

1556
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:29,439
Speaker 4: Oh man, I'm gonna need you to stay up during

1557
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:32,439
Speaker 4: the program. Okay, I'm gonna need you to just at

1558
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:34,639
Speaker 4: least try to follow along. We're doing a radio show

1559
01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 4: here a little it's live.

1560
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:39,439
Speaker 2: It's not a podcast. It's life. We're doing live.

1561
01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:44,479
Speaker 10: I'm sorry, I grew up like just swimming in Lake Michigan's.

1562
01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:46,040
Speaker 10: I was gonna say, no, why would I wear a

1563
01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:46,559
Speaker 10: life vest?

1564
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:50,040
Speaker 3: Like, well, if you were competitively sailing, as the guy

1565
01:22:50,120 --> 01:22:52,400
Speaker 3: next to you said he was an hour ago, then uh,

1566
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:54,320
Speaker 3: I still don't.

1567
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:57,360
Speaker 2: Think Wait he was on the sailing team I was.

1568
01:22:57,680 --> 01:22:59,240
Speaker 12: I don't think i'd wear one, though, I don't want

1569
01:22:59,240 --> 01:22:59,759
Speaker 12: to be different.

1570
01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:01,280
Speaker 2: No, I think.

1571
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:05,479
Speaker 9: I think if you're required to wear like a coast guard,

1572
01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:10,519
Speaker 9: approved to compete and stuff like people would trying to

1573
01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:14,080
Speaker 9: sneak you know, certain brands that weren't and they were

1574
01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:17,880
Speaker 9: you know, skinnier and less bulky and stuff like that.

1575
01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:20,560
Speaker 3: But I'll tell you what about it, A life A

1576
01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:23,040
Speaker 3: life jacket saved my life on my bachelor's trip.

1577
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 2: For real. Where were you swimming at though so recently?

1578
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:31,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, like a couple of weeks ago, like I legitimately,

1579
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:33,479
Speaker 3: it took me a minute to like get back into

1580
01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 3: the mode of having fun like I was. So it

1581
01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:41,120
Speaker 3: was I'm not joking, like, wow, it was. Uh, I

1582
01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:43,680
Speaker 3: forget the name of the place that we were, but

1583
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:46,000
Speaker 3: there's this cave that has you.

1584
01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:47,519
Speaker 2: Know, just deep water in it.

1585
01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:51,080
Speaker 3: So you you dump, you dive in, You go on

1586
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:53,519
Speaker 3: the ATV to the cave, You jump in the cave,

1587
01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:55,240
Speaker 3: you get wet, you get out, you get back on

1588
01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:55,679
Speaker 3: the ATV.

1589
01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 2: You're right back where you go. Right.

1590
01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:03,000
Speaker 3: So, buddy of mine's not a good swimmer. I am

1591
01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:05,600
Speaker 3: a good swimmer. I was on the swim team in

1592
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:11,240
Speaker 3: the second grade. Okay, but no, I should say I

1593
01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:13,680
Speaker 3: was in the swim team and then continued on through

1594
01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:14,519
Speaker 3: like junior high.

1595
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:17,400
Speaker 2: Okay, it doesn't count unless you swim in high school. Okay.

1596
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:19,160
Speaker 3: Oh, I mean the only reason I didn't swim in

1597
01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 3: high school because I was too busy letter in the

1598
01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:21,759
Speaker 3: other sports.

1599
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:23,760
Speaker 2: That's true, We've already gone down that hit.

1600
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:27,800
Speaker 3: And also, swim practice was at like four o'clock in

1601
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:31,000
Speaker 3: the morning and basketball practice was at four o'clock in

1602
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:31,559
Speaker 3: the afternoon.

1603
01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:34,240
Speaker 2: That worked out better for my parents. Okay, right.

1604
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:37,000
Speaker 3: Finally, the whole shaving of the arms and legs and

1605
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:39,000
Speaker 3: stuff too far. Now, I wouldn't do it all that,

1606
01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:42,880
Speaker 3: but I put it to you. I know how to swim,

1607
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:46,000
Speaker 3: and have swum competitively at certain points in my life.

1608
01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:50,519
Speaker 2: But get to a to B comfortably. So I'm swimming,

1609
01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:53,840
Speaker 2: I bring my boy over and he jumps in.

1610
01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:57,280
Speaker 3: He's literally and where are you guys in the Dominican

1611
01:24:57,320 --> 01:24:58,639
Speaker 3: Repoka dr al.

1612
01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:00,559
Speaker 2: Right, so he's done on a rifle.

1613
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:03,120
Speaker 3: He drops in and he's got He's just flopping around

1614
01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:04,400
Speaker 3: like he's the fish in the boat.

1615
01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:06,160
Speaker 2: So I grab him and.

1616
01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:09,000
Speaker 3: I'm doing a little rescue swim because again I know

1617
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:12,080
Speaker 3: to rescue swim. He can't swim, but you got a

1618
01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:14,040
Speaker 3: life jacket on. We all have life jackets on, ye,

1619
01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:16,720
Speaker 3: But no, he couldn't swim, all right, at least he

1620
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:18,880
Speaker 3: couldn't swim well enough to know that. He's like, I

1621
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:19,439
Speaker 3: need a hand.

1622
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:22,320
Speaker 9: Well, he should join the Ravens Lessons with Michael Phelips.

1623
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:25,120
Speaker 9: If you saw that, he's gonna be given Ravens players lessons.

1624
01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:25,639
Speaker 2: Listen.

1625
01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:29,160
Speaker 3: It's a valuable skill, very valuable skill, one that I

1626
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:30,679
Speaker 3: wish this jack hole had.

1627
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:33,120
Speaker 2: So I get my boy. I swing him over to

1628
01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:36,920
Speaker 2: the rock. Now at this point, I know how to swim.

1629
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:40,519
Speaker 3: However, I am terribly out of shape, all right, so

1630
01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:44,559
Speaker 3: I'm exhausted. I grab onto the rock to just hang

1631
01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:49,559
Speaker 3: there for a minute, catch my breath. Back A man

1632
01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:53,559
Speaker 3: the size what the size of a running back? He's

1633
01:25:53,600 --> 01:25:56,040
Speaker 3: built like a running back. So he's five ten but

1634
01:25:56,600 --> 01:26:01,160
Speaker 3: just muscles out of his ears, grabs my off the

1635
01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:05,280
Speaker 3: rock and pulls me back and then pushes me down

1636
01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:10,280
Speaker 3: on my shoulders to where I'm I'm submerged to use

1637
01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:11,519
Speaker 3: you to push himself.

1638
01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:11,760
Speaker 2: Right.

1639
01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:14,000
Speaker 3: Hey, I wasn't expecting none of this, So I'm in

1640
01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:17,080
Speaker 3: the middle. So all of a sudden, I just get

1641
01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:22,120
Speaker 3: a big gulp of water, so I realize, you know,

1642
01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:22,799
Speaker 3: first of all.

1643
01:26:22,720 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 2: Like who is this guy? Because now I have to

1644
01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:26,320
Speaker 2: kill him? And I was like, oh, he's drowning.

1645
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:30,920
Speaker 3: So I picked this running backsized man up out the

1646
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:34,560
Speaker 3: water and put him on this rock and I go

1647
01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 3: up and I.

1648
01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:35,920
Speaker 2: Tell you what.

1649
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:38,920
Speaker 3: He was African of some sort and didn't speak the

1650
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:41,719
Speaker 3: best English. And that's the best case for everybody, because

1651
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:46,760
Speaker 3: I cussed him out, so crazy boy, What.

1652
01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:48,920
Speaker 2: Did I say? Listen? What did he say? What did

1653
01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:51,080
Speaker 2: he say? He's just oh, you know, no.

1654
01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:54,080
Speaker 3: I let it have in Spanish a little bit too,

1655
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:56,120
Speaker 3: because I was he said, oh no, no, no, kind

1656
01:26:56,160 --> 01:26:58,360
Speaker 3: of put his hands up like this. I was like,

1657
01:26:58,439 --> 01:27:02,080
Speaker 3: you bleep and bleep you because he didn't have on

1658
01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:05,120
Speaker 3: a life jacket, and the life jackets was two dollars

1659
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:08,479
Speaker 3: at the top and man, the last day I said,

1660
01:27:08,479 --> 01:27:11,080
Speaker 3: he walked past, and I said, no, you don't need.

1661
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:13,000
Speaker 2: To walk past these life jackets no more. You need

1662
01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:15,559
Speaker 2: to buy one. Just lab with you forever.

1663
01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:19,120
Speaker 9: Dipping your toes into other languages while you're cussing them

1664
01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:20,760
Speaker 9: out is so funny, bro.

1665
01:27:20,840 --> 01:27:22,160
Speaker 2: Especially this guy. I'd been there a few day.

1666
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:25,479
Speaker 3: I'm really really pretty good at Spanish, especially if I've

1667
01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:28,120
Speaker 3: been there for Yeah, I was letting them have it all.

1668
01:27:28,040 --> 01:27:28,599
Speaker 2: Types of ways.

1669
01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:31,080
Speaker 10: That's pretty valid, though, Like I would wear a life

1670
01:27:31,160 --> 01:27:33,760
Speaker 10: jacket a friend of the dr and this is that's

1671
01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:35,200
Speaker 10: that's a no brainer.

1672
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:37,680
Speaker 3: They saved my life though, I tell you because I

1673
01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:40,840
Speaker 3: if I, if I hadn't had something to bring me

1674
01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:42,879
Speaker 3: right back up, I don't.

1675
01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:44,960
Speaker 2: Know if I would have done it, and we might

1676
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:51,560
Speaker 2: not have been here today. But I am and I

1677
01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:54,400
Speaker 2: don't look like what I've been through, and still I rise.

1678
01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:58,120
Speaker 3: What I was thinking about that it makes me think

1679
01:27:58,200 --> 01:28:01,240
Speaker 3: of the phrase that is is very There's a lot

1680
01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:04,560
Speaker 3: of stupid phrases in football. One of the ones I

1681
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:08,439
Speaker 3: find to be the stupidest is drinking out of a

1682
01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:09,200
Speaker 3: fire hose.

1683
01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:12,200
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, we're just gonna.

1684
01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:13,960
Speaker 3: Have him drinking out of a fire hose in training camp.

1685
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:18,800
Speaker 3: It's like, I conceptually I don't get with that. Like

1686
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:20,799
Speaker 3: I get it we're gonna overload with information.

1687
01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:23,000
Speaker 9: I think it's a good effect of saying gets the

1688
01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:24,439
Speaker 9: point across of what you're trying to say.

1689
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:29,840
Speaker 3: But I just visibly see Ben Johnson opening up a

1690
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:33,400
Speaker 3: fire hose and Caleb Williams just sitting there like, and

1691
01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:35,760
Speaker 3: it's like, maybe that's why Caleb got his haircut, so

1692
01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:37,720
Speaker 3: that way, just with the water, would you know he'd

1693
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:41,519
Speaker 3: be more streamlined. But anyway, some of these reports out

1694
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:44,120
Speaker 3: of Bears camp, right, they want a Bears camp. Ben

1695
01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:46,760
Speaker 3: Jonson gives the offense the boot off the field, right,

1696
01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:50,640
Speaker 3: and happens all the time, and so you hear all

1697
01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:56,080
Speaker 3: these back and forth today. If you have any level

1698
01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:59,320
Speaker 3: of social media, the Caleb clickbait is out of control,

1699
01:28:59,439 --> 01:29:03,960
Speaker 3: but the lips are such that it is kind of validated.

1700
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:06,280
Speaker 3: It looks rough. I'll just say that, it looks. It

1701
01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:09,920
Speaker 3: does not look like everything is up to snuff. Now

1702
01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:12,560
Speaker 3: it is August third, So the benefit is they have

1703
01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:15,160
Speaker 3: at least three or four weeks before it has to

1704
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:18,240
Speaker 3: be up to snuff, and they're playing in games that matter.

1705
01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:23,160
Speaker 3: But I wanted to hear from Ben Johnson after today's

1706
01:29:24,360 --> 01:29:28,080
Speaker 3: Bears practice, which was family day, so there was a

1707
01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:30,519
Speaker 3: ton only the reasons I say that is there was

1708
01:29:30,560 --> 01:29:33,160
Speaker 3: a ton more cameras there than normal they like at

1709
01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:37,760
Speaker 3: your average practice, saw a lot of Caleb Williams' mistakes.

1710
01:29:37,840 --> 01:29:40,280
Speaker 2: Quote unquote. This is what Ben Johnson had to say

1711
01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:43,360
Speaker 2: about this his team in general after the practice.

1712
01:29:43,479 --> 01:29:45,680
Speaker 15: Execution of the play wasn't what we wanted it to be.

1713
01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:47,960
Speaker 15: And I mean it's it's a credit to the defense.

1714
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:50,240
Speaker 15: I mean they came out and they can kicked the

1715
01:29:50,280 --> 01:29:54,200
Speaker 15: offense's rear in that drill. So that's what showed up

1716
01:29:54,200 --> 01:29:54,360
Speaker 15: to me.

1717
01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:55,439
Speaker 2: They wanted a little.

1718
01:29:55,240 --> 01:29:59,000
Speaker 3: Bit more in the drill he's talking about. The offense

1719
01:29:59,200 --> 01:30:02,120
Speaker 3: was backed up in their own territory deep, deep, deep.

1720
01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:05,840
Speaker 3: I don't know exactly what yard line, but it was

1721
01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:08,599
Speaker 3: close enough to where the drill resulted in two safeties

1722
01:30:08,640 --> 01:30:12,680
Speaker 3: in an interception like that was the end result of

1723
01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:16,240
Speaker 3: what the drill. So you pull your offense off the

1724
01:30:16,320 --> 01:30:17,080
Speaker 3: field day one.

1725
01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:21,440
Speaker 2: I get that. You'll say you do it all. I'm evaluating.

1726
01:30:21,479 --> 01:30:23,439
Speaker 2: I'm just taking it all in from Ben Johnson.

1727
01:30:23,439 --> 01:30:25,559
Speaker 3: I'm trying to drink all of what the fire Hose

1728
01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:29,000
Speaker 3: has to offer from these press conferences. But what do

1729
01:30:29,120 --> 01:30:32,479
Speaker 3: you expect to see from first year head coach Ben

1730
01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:37,439
Speaker 3: Johnson's second year quarterback Caleb Williams, especially considering some of

1731
01:30:37,520 --> 01:30:39,879
Speaker 3: what first year head coach has said, is that basically

1732
01:30:40,040 --> 01:30:42,479
Speaker 3: this is first year for quarterback two, even though he

1733
01:30:42,560 --> 01:30:44,519
Speaker 3: played the first year of his career.

1734
01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:45,760
Speaker 2: In terms of the offense and.

1735
01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:50,040
Speaker 4: Everything, it's a learning process. They're learning each other and

1736
01:30:50,120 --> 01:30:53,240
Speaker 4: it's just not for Caleb. It's mostly centered around Caleb

1737
01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:55,960
Speaker 4: Williams because he is the face of the franchise, but

1738
01:30:56,120 --> 01:31:00,920
Speaker 4: it's also about the entire team they're trying to figure

1739
01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:04,080
Speaker 4: out Ben Johnson. Ben Johnson is trying to come in

1740
01:31:04,280 --> 01:31:07,320
Speaker 4: and be a part of the change of culture that

1741
01:31:07,479 --> 01:31:10,040
Speaker 4: needs to happen, similar to what Dan Campbell was able

1742
01:31:10,120 --> 01:31:12,400
Speaker 4: to do in Detroit and Ben Johnson being on that

1743
01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:16,360
Speaker 4: staff and understanding what work goes into that and how

1744
01:31:16,479 --> 01:31:17,400
Speaker 4: difficult that is.

1745
01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:19,080
Speaker 2: You got to remember.

1746
01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:24,400
Speaker 4: Dan Campbell's first year, they were, you know, vying for

1747
01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:27,600
Speaker 4: the first picking the three I think was picking the draft.

1748
01:31:27,439 --> 01:31:30,200
Speaker 3: Three and thirty to the end of it the first year,

1749
01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:32,439
Speaker 3: and then the second year was that nine and eight

1750
01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:35,400
Speaker 3: season where they didn't qualify for the playoffs. But that

1751
01:31:35,560 --> 01:31:38,839
Speaker 3: was the famous Rogers and Cobb walking off of Flambeau

1752
01:31:38,920 --> 01:31:40,160
Speaker 3: Field thinking this may be the.

1753
01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:42,519
Speaker 2: Last time spoiler alert, It wasn't for either.

1754
01:31:42,800 --> 01:31:48,679
Speaker 4: And so I think Ben knows it's going to take

1755
01:31:48,760 --> 01:31:51,400
Speaker 4: some time now. What he doesn't want to do is

1756
01:31:51,479 --> 01:31:55,680
Speaker 4: get into the situation that Caleb was in last year

1757
01:31:55,720 --> 01:31:58,639
Speaker 4: when they drafted him. They were talking playoffs and a shot,

1758
01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:02,400
Speaker 4: real shot, and they just didn't have things in place

1759
01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:06,000
Speaker 4: as a team to even warrant that. There's so many

1760
01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:09,800
Speaker 4: holes all over the place and the team, starting with

1761
01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:12,680
Speaker 4: the leadership. Ben is just coming in and trying to

1762
01:32:12,960 --> 01:32:17,599
Speaker 4: get his quarterback to be the best version of himself

1763
01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:20,800
Speaker 4: in year two and then you'll go from there. Right,

1764
01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:25,640
Speaker 4: So there is a process here, and it's difficult to

1765
01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:28,599
Speaker 4: change regime regimes like that and then have your young

1766
01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:31,599
Speaker 4: quarterback just hit the ground running.

1767
01:32:31,640 --> 01:32:32,760
Speaker 2: Now they will be better.

1768
01:32:32,920 --> 01:32:37,080
Speaker 4: It will be better clock management, time management, better play calls.

1769
01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:43,000
Speaker 4: But the totality of how the team does just doesn't

1770
01:32:43,040 --> 01:32:46,560
Speaker 4: fall on Ben. It's also about that defense. And just

1771
01:32:46,680 --> 01:32:49,400
Speaker 4: like he said, yeah, offense sucked, but the defense had

1772
01:32:49,439 --> 01:32:51,600
Speaker 4: a great period and that's the thing you have to

1773
01:32:51,880 --> 01:32:55,799
Speaker 4: understand as a head coach in practice and training camp practice.

1774
01:32:56,560 --> 01:32:59,080
Speaker 4: If your offense isn't doing what they're supposed to do,

1775
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:03,519
Speaker 4: that means your defense is one step ahead of them.

1776
01:33:03,960 --> 01:33:06,640
Speaker 4: And as you're building this team to go compete with

1777
01:33:06,760 --> 01:33:10,240
Speaker 4: other teams, that's a positive within the negative all at

1778
01:33:10,280 --> 01:33:10,880
Speaker 4: the same time.

1779
01:33:11,280 --> 01:33:14,439
Speaker 3: And he did actually make reference to that point later

1780
01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:17,080
Speaker 3: on in the press conference, saying that you kind of

1781
01:33:17,160 --> 01:33:19,400
Speaker 3: want it to be that way. One day the offense wins,

1782
01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:22,040
Speaker 3: one day the defense wins. That's the mark of a

1783
01:33:22,200 --> 01:33:26,920
Speaker 3: good team. I do find it fascinating that this is

1784
01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:30,560
Speaker 3: the first time that Ben Johnson. I can't get this

1785
01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:31,800
Speaker 3: out of my head, and I think about it every

1786
01:33:31,840 --> 01:33:36,040
Speaker 3: offseason as we have the turnover that we have, feels

1787
01:33:36,080 --> 01:33:39,799
Speaker 3: like to me, the defensive coordinator's job. Stop the offense,

1788
01:33:39,960 --> 01:33:44,080
Speaker 3: get off the field, limit the penalties, good third down rate,

1789
01:33:44,360 --> 01:33:46,519
Speaker 3: try to force turn put your players in positions to

1790
01:33:46,600 --> 01:33:47,320
Speaker 3: force turnovers.

1791
01:33:47,439 --> 01:33:47,559
Speaker 2: Right.

1792
01:33:47,960 --> 01:33:50,559
Speaker 3: That's basically if you were looking at the job description

1793
01:33:50,680 --> 01:33:52,920
Speaker 3: on indeed dot com for a defensive coordinator, that's what

1794
01:33:53,040 --> 01:33:57,240
Speaker 3: it would be. Offensive coordinator, positive plays, no backwards plays.

1795
01:33:57,439 --> 01:33:59,800
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Get out of bad first,

1796
01:34:00,360 --> 01:34:03,360
Speaker 3: how quickly can you turn first and fifteen into second

1797
01:34:03,400 --> 01:34:04,840
Speaker 3: and seven right consistently?

1798
01:34:05,040 --> 01:34:05,320
Speaker 2: In that?

1799
01:34:05,680 --> 01:34:08,280
Speaker 3: How often are you avoiding first in fifteen or second

1800
01:34:08,360 --> 01:34:12,200
Speaker 3: and fifteen scoring points, getting first down, staying on the

1801
01:34:12,280 --> 01:34:18,920
Speaker 3: field right. The head coach's job is the only job

1802
01:34:19,000 --> 01:34:20,519
Speaker 3: that's only one word, and it's win.

1803
01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:22,599
Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm saying?

1804
01:34:22,600 --> 01:34:24,840
Speaker 3: That's the only person who has to answer for the

1805
01:34:24,920 --> 01:34:27,439
Speaker 3: wins and the losses as the head coach. It's the

1806
01:34:27,600 --> 01:34:30,880
Speaker 3: only person ultimately who gets these wins and losses on

1807
01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:31,599
Speaker 3: their resume?

1808
01:34:32,280 --> 01:34:35,479
Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? And when? How win?

1809
01:34:35,720 --> 01:34:39,400
Speaker 3: However, whether you win three to nothing, If you win

1810
01:34:39,600 --> 01:34:43,040
Speaker 3: a seventeen hundred games at a score of three to

1811
01:34:43,120 --> 01:34:45,200
Speaker 3: nothing every game, congratulations, you were the best.

1812
01:34:45,000 --> 01:34:46,559
Speaker 2: Coach of all time, all the fame. Right.

1813
01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:49,160
Speaker 3: If you win fifty seventeen hundred games fifteen to nothing,

1814
01:34:49,240 --> 01:34:52,840
Speaker 3: congratulations are fifty to forty nine, Congratulations, best coach of

1815
01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:53,280
Speaker 3: all time?

1816
01:34:53,520 --> 01:34:55,880
Speaker 2: Because it's about winning you And that's kind of the

1817
01:34:55,920 --> 01:34:57,160
Speaker 2: beauty of this in.

1818
01:34:57,240 --> 01:34:59,639
Speaker 3: This salary cap league and one that we don't really

1819
01:34:59,720 --> 01:35:03,320
Speaker 3: see and other sports, ironically enough, that have more salary

1820
01:35:03,360 --> 01:35:07,720
Speaker 3: cap leeway, is, however, the head coach thinks is the

1821
01:35:07,800 --> 01:35:10,400
Speaker 3: best way to win is generally what you see on

1822
01:35:10,479 --> 01:35:12,760
Speaker 3: the field, right, Like you know, like you see and

1823
01:35:12,800 --> 01:35:14,800
Speaker 3: you see all different types. Some teams run the ball more,

1824
01:35:14,920 --> 01:35:17,960
Speaker 3: some teams throw the ball more. Some teams are value

1825
01:35:18,040 --> 01:35:20,240
Speaker 3: the defensive side of the ball, Moore, somethings value the

1826
01:35:20,280 --> 01:35:21,200
Speaker 3: offensive side of the ball.

1827
01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:21,479
Speaker 9: Moore.

1828
01:35:22,800 --> 01:35:25,200
Speaker 2: I just want to remember, like we.

1829
01:35:25,280 --> 01:35:28,800
Speaker 3: Talked about this earlier, the Eagles playing the Commanders in

1830
01:35:28,840 --> 01:35:31,400
Speaker 3: the NFC Championship game and being like, you know, the

1831
01:35:31,439 --> 01:35:35,679
Speaker 3: Commanders got to that NFC Championship game. I always wonder

1832
01:35:35,800 --> 01:35:37,920
Speaker 3: what it's gonna be like when Ben Johnson has to

1833
01:35:38,040 --> 01:35:43,479
Speaker 3: answer for a game in which where a right tackle

1834
01:35:43,880 --> 01:35:48,400
Speaker 3: drops a first down or a wide receiver throws an interception,

1835
01:35:49,640 --> 01:35:52,479
Speaker 3: because those are the types of things that happened to

1836
01:35:52,520 --> 01:35:57,320
Speaker 3: the Lions under Ben Johnson that he didn't under Dan Campbell.

1837
01:35:57,360 --> 01:36:01,000
Speaker 3: I should say that Dan Campbell was the guy responsible

1838
01:36:01,040 --> 01:36:03,880
Speaker 3: for answering, but Dan Campbell was not the guy calling

1839
01:36:03,960 --> 01:36:04,360
Speaker 3: that play.

1840
01:36:05,479 --> 01:36:08,120
Speaker 2: I want to I just and I'm not Maybe it'll

1841
01:36:08,160 --> 01:36:10,320
Speaker 2: be nothing, maybe it'll be everything.

1842
01:36:10,560 --> 01:36:14,240
Speaker 3: But especially for a team that just felt like they

1843
01:36:14,400 --> 01:36:19,960
Speaker 3: had accountability issues out of their last head coach, I

1844
01:36:20,120 --> 01:36:24,479
Speaker 3: just we're in that honeymoon stage. Now, I just I

1845
01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:27,880
Speaker 3: am excited for that moment to happen, just to see

1846
01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:28,719
Speaker 3: how he reacts.

1847
01:36:30,840 --> 01:36:34,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's one of those situations where when you

1848
01:36:35,080 --> 01:36:37,920
Speaker 4: have coaches who are coordinators, are terrific coordinators, and they

1849
01:36:38,000 --> 01:36:40,639
Speaker 4: become head coaches, all.

1850
01:36:40,600 --> 01:36:41,599
Speaker 2: Eyes are on them as well.

1851
01:36:43,760 --> 01:36:49,120
Speaker 4: Like you said, every time something happens, are you know

1852
01:36:50,280 --> 01:36:53,519
Speaker 4: something bad happens, you lose a close game that the

1853
01:36:53,640 --> 01:36:58,800
Speaker 4: scrutiny in the spotlight is on you. Right, as a coordinator,

1854
01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:02,280
Speaker 4: you talk to the head coach, the head coach goes

1855
01:37:02,320 --> 01:37:03,799
Speaker 4: out and takes the bullets.

1856
01:37:04,280 --> 01:37:07,000
Speaker 2: Yep, Now you're the shield.

1857
01:37:07,920 --> 01:37:10,200
Speaker 4: Do you have to go out and you're have Do

1858
01:37:10,280 --> 01:37:14,200
Speaker 4: you have to be accountable for what happened happens on

1859
01:37:14,280 --> 01:37:16,360
Speaker 4: the on the field wins and losses?

1860
01:37:16,600 --> 01:37:19,080
Speaker 2: Right? You don't want to have a whole year of

1861
01:37:19,200 --> 01:37:21,519
Speaker 2: saying I got to prepare the guys better. It's on me.

1862
01:37:21,720 --> 01:37:24,519
Speaker 4: Like you don't want to go down that road as

1863
01:37:24,600 --> 01:37:27,519
Speaker 4: a as a young, you know, brand new head coach,

1864
01:37:28,000 --> 01:37:31,000
Speaker 4: but you also want to give yourself some leeway. And

1865
01:37:31,120 --> 01:37:34,679
Speaker 4: I know that's you know, an unpopular thing to say

1866
01:37:35,120 --> 01:37:39,080
Speaker 4: in a win now league, but you know it takes

1867
01:37:39,120 --> 01:37:43,439
Speaker 4: a minute to change the culture. I think Caleb Williams

1868
01:37:43,479 --> 01:37:46,400
Speaker 4: has the talent. I think Ben Jones is an excellent

1869
01:37:46,600 --> 01:37:51,840
Speaker 4: offensive coordinator. Is he an excellent head coach? I guess

1870
01:37:51,880 --> 01:37:52,680
Speaker 4: we're gonna find out.

1871
01:37:53,200 --> 01:37:55,280
Speaker 2: We absolutely will find out.

1872
01:37:55,320 --> 01:37:59,639
Speaker 3: And coming up next talking about messing around and finding

1873
01:37:59,680 --> 01:38:04,120
Speaker 3: out one NFL owner just might have met his match.

1874
01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:06,360
Speaker 3: We'll get to that in just a minute. Martin Wis's

1875
01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:12,479
Speaker 3: Ephram Saloon Fox Sports Radio. They say it's never been

1876
01:38:12,560 --> 01:38:15,720
Speaker 3: done before. Maybe that's because nobody ever really tried it.

1877
01:38:16,240 --> 01:38:17,400
Speaker 2: They missed any of today's show.

1878
01:38:17,439 --> 01:38:19,639
Speaker 3: You want to catch the podcast to search Fox Sports

1879
01:38:19,760 --> 01:38:22,519
Speaker 3: Radio wherever you get those podcasts. Right after the show,

1880
01:38:22,600 --> 01:38:25,880
Speaker 3: today's podcast will be posted. Be sure to follow the

1881
01:38:25,960 --> 01:38:28,439
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1882
01:38:28,520 --> 01:38:31,160
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1884
01:38:34,240 --> 01:38:35,679
Speaker 3: we get off of the air.

1885
01:38:36,360 --> 01:38:36,799
Speaker 2: Ephraim.

1886
01:38:37,840 --> 01:38:42,800
Speaker 3: I saw reports yesterday out of Jacksonville about their scrimmage

1887
01:38:43,400 --> 01:38:47,040
Speaker 3: in which you saw the very honestly kind of reminded

1888
01:38:47,040 --> 01:38:49,920
Speaker 3: me of watching high school football practices in which you

1889
01:38:50,040 --> 01:38:55,160
Speaker 3: saw the starting wide receiver change his jersey and then

1890
01:38:55,280 --> 01:38:58,759
Speaker 3: go to the other side. Of the field and play defense.

1891
01:38:58,840 --> 01:38:58,960
Speaker 2: Now.

1892
01:38:59,080 --> 01:39:02,280
Speaker 3: Deon Sanders said that the way that the Jacksonville Jaguars

1893
01:39:02,920 --> 01:39:05,479
Speaker 3: did this is also analogous to the way that they

1894
01:39:05,560 --> 01:39:07,960
Speaker 3: did at Colorado, where you had your number one offense

1895
01:39:08,000 --> 01:39:11,040
Speaker 3: practice against your number two defense, your number two offense

1896
01:39:11,120 --> 01:39:14,160
Speaker 3: practice against your number one defense. So therefore, Travis Hunter

1897
01:39:14,280 --> 01:39:17,760
Speaker 3: could be essentially in the right place at the same time,

1898
01:39:17,800 --> 01:39:20,400
Speaker 3: because as talented as he is, I don't think he's

1899
01:39:20,400 --> 01:39:22,320
Speaker 3: found a way to be in the same place at

1900
01:39:22,360 --> 01:39:24,960
Speaker 3: the exact same time. What do you think of the

1901
01:39:25,120 --> 01:39:28,000
Speaker 3: plan so far that the Jaguars have for Travis Hunter

1902
01:39:28,080 --> 01:39:31,200
Speaker 3: to implement him into this team, because you can't say

1903
01:39:31,280 --> 01:39:33,000
Speaker 3: him meant to the offense or the defense.

1904
01:39:33,040 --> 01:39:35,240
Speaker 2: It's and the defense. I think it's great. I think

1905
01:39:37,240 --> 01:39:42,440
Speaker 2: just to steal from another sport pitching and hidden.

1906
01:39:43,800 --> 01:39:48,080
Speaker 4: Show Hey and the Dodgers and what the Angels show, Hey,

1907
01:39:48,160 --> 01:39:50,160
Speaker 4: showing the league that you know, I can pitch and

1908
01:39:50,240 --> 01:39:55,200
Speaker 4: I can hit, even though it's frowned upon or are

1909
01:39:55,479 --> 01:39:58,040
Speaker 4: you know, after you become a pitcher, then you specialize

1910
01:39:58,080 --> 01:40:01,120
Speaker 4: in pitching and not so much at the play. But

1911
01:40:01,320 --> 01:40:04,040
Speaker 4: I love the fact that this is the evolution of

1912
01:40:04,120 --> 01:40:09,439
Speaker 4: the athlete. Most athletes, especially in pro sports, focus on

1913
01:40:10,160 --> 01:40:13,200
Speaker 4: and football focus on one aspect of the of the game,

1914
01:40:13,280 --> 01:40:17,360
Speaker 4: which is offensive defense. And I think Travis Hunter is

1915
01:40:17,400 --> 01:40:20,040
Speaker 4: a special individual. He's shown us he could do it

1916
01:40:20,160 --> 01:40:25,800
Speaker 4: in college at a high level consistently. And so I think,

1917
01:40:26,560 --> 01:40:29,400
Speaker 4: you know, as the third pick in the draft, you

1918
01:40:29,520 --> 01:40:32,800
Speaker 4: want to maximize that value or at second pick, second

1919
01:40:32,880 --> 01:40:35,240
Speaker 4: or third pick in the draft, you want to maximize

1920
01:40:35,240 --> 01:40:38,639
Speaker 4: that second pick. You want to maximize that value. Uh

1921
01:40:38,920 --> 01:40:41,080
Speaker 4: and and and let him be great, let him be

1922
01:40:41,200 --> 01:40:46,280
Speaker 4: who he is, and that's a dual uh, starting athlete

1923
01:40:46,640 --> 01:40:51,600
Speaker 4: who can who's capable of starting offensively and defensively and

1924
01:40:51,800 --> 01:40:55,439
Speaker 4: both so and until it becomes a problem for him,

1925
01:40:56,280 --> 01:40:59,640
Speaker 4: then I think it's great for them to explore that

1926
01:40:59,720 --> 01:41:03,560
Speaker 4: because that's what he wants to do, especially when you consider,

1927
01:41:04,240 --> 01:41:06,200
Speaker 4: I mean, that's what he wants to do. But I'm

1928
01:41:06,240 --> 01:41:08,920
Speaker 4: not saying, look, a lot of people want to do

1929
01:41:08,960 --> 01:41:11,400
Speaker 4: a lot, you know what I mean, Like, he's got

1930
01:41:11,520 --> 01:41:15,679
Speaker 4: to be great at both to be able to play

1931
01:41:15,760 --> 01:41:17,960
Speaker 4: both at a high level. I'll and I'll honestly be

1932
01:41:18,960 --> 01:41:20,879
Speaker 4: again the same way, I kind of have the curiosity

1933
01:41:20,920 --> 01:41:23,360
Speaker 4: to see how Ben Jonson's gonna respond when his first

1934
01:41:23,400 --> 01:41:24,360
Speaker 4: trick play doesn't work.

1935
01:41:24,680 --> 01:41:26,840
Speaker 3: I want to know how Jacksonville responds when he has

1936
01:41:26,880 --> 01:41:29,080
Speaker 3: a good wide receiver day or a bad cornerback day

1937
01:41:29,439 --> 01:41:32,439
Speaker 3: or vice versa. Right, like he's locked he locked up.

1938
01:41:33,200 --> 01:41:36,519
Speaker 3: You know, Jamar Chase had three catches for twenty seven yards,

1939
01:41:36,920 --> 01:41:40,160
Speaker 3: but he had three drops, or you know, he had

1940
01:41:40,880 --> 01:41:44,519
Speaker 3: seven for seventy seven and two touchdowns but gave up

1941
01:41:44,560 --> 01:41:47,679
Speaker 3: three touchdowns on the other side. Just interested to see

1942
01:41:47,840 --> 01:41:52,120
Speaker 3: how the response is because James Gladstone, who's younger than me,

1943
01:41:52,640 --> 01:41:54,840
Speaker 3: but speaks with the conviction of a man who has

1944
01:41:54,880 --> 01:41:57,360
Speaker 3: had a lot more success than either one of us

1945
01:41:57,400 --> 01:41:59,920
Speaker 3: have had going into his first job as a GA,

1946
01:42:00,439 --> 01:42:03,000
Speaker 3: and I commend him for it. But this guy's talking like, hey,

1947
01:42:03,600 --> 01:42:07,200
Speaker 3: Travis Hunter can change the calculus of football like that,

1948
01:42:07,320 --> 01:42:08,840
Speaker 3: and that's what they said about like a guy like

1949
01:42:08,920 --> 01:42:11,920
Speaker 3: sho hal Tani And to your point, yeah, but like

1950
01:42:14,720 --> 01:42:18,240
Speaker 3: hitting it makes that the violence of football just makes

1951
01:42:18,280 --> 01:42:21,519
Speaker 3: it to me seem so far fetched on its face.

1952
01:42:21,600 --> 01:42:23,200
Speaker 2: But who am I to say somebody can't do it?

1953
01:42:23,400 --> 01:42:26,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we saw Dion do it in Spurts,

1954
01:42:27,360 --> 01:42:33,280
Speaker 4: but I think athletic wise, and you know, guys aren't

1955
01:42:33,280 --> 01:42:37,080
Speaker 4: taking hilacious hits and stuff like that anymore. I think

1956
01:42:38,200 --> 01:42:42,040
Speaker 4: he's absolutely right. As a GM, you want to try

1957
01:42:42,120 --> 01:42:46,200
Speaker 4: to maximize your player's talent, and if that's on both

1958
01:42:46,280 --> 01:42:48,280
Speaker 4: sides of the ball, then you have to put your

1959
01:42:48,320 --> 01:42:51,920
Speaker 4: best players out there, especially for a franchise is trying

1960
01:42:52,000 --> 01:42:56,519
Speaker 4: to find a way to garner any type of success,

1961
01:42:57,640 --> 01:43:01,840
Speaker 4: any type of buzz, any type of movement, and I

1962
01:43:02,080 --> 01:43:05,160
Speaker 4: think this is an exciting pick for them and the draft,

1963
01:43:05,280 --> 01:43:07,600
Speaker 4: and I think people want to see just what he

1964
01:43:07,680 --> 01:43:11,400
Speaker 4: can do. And with that alone comes the notoriety in

1965
01:43:11,479 --> 01:43:14,120
Speaker 4: the buzz that a team like Jacksonville needs.

1966
01:43:15,040 --> 01:43:20,559
Speaker 3: Now you mentioned it, it's just like the Dull definitely

1967
01:43:20,640 --> 01:43:22,600
Speaker 3: notoriety in the buzz, and honestly.

1968
01:43:23,840 --> 01:43:26,439
Speaker 2: It's honestly, this is part of the reason why I

1969
01:43:26,600 --> 01:43:28,240
Speaker 2: just up heel back to curtain a little bit.

1970
01:43:28,320 --> 01:43:30,800
Speaker 3: I the day job, I'm producing a lot of the

1971
01:43:30,840 --> 01:43:32,719
Speaker 3: sports TV that you may be watching.

1972
01:43:33,520 --> 01:43:34,679
Speaker 2: This is the reason why.

1973
01:43:35,040 --> 01:43:39,160
Speaker 3: Everybody is focused on the backup quarterback competition in Cleveland.

1974
01:43:39,600 --> 01:43:41,919
Speaker 3: The number one overall pick in the draft was relatively

1975
01:43:42,040 --> 01:43:46,439
Speaker 3: unknown before he walked into Miami and then had the

1976
01:43:46,439 --> 01:43:49,479
Speaker 3: pleasure getting drafted by the Tennessee Titans and the Jacksonville

1977
01:43:49,520 --> 01:43:51,639
Speaker 3: Draft Wars drafted the most interesting player in the draft

1978
01:43:51,680 --> 01:43:55,920
Speaker 3: of Travis Hunter. And that's just, honestly the way Cookie crumbles. Unfortunately,

1979
01:43:56,720 --> 01:43:58,120
Speaker 3: it's just the reality of the situation.

1980
01:43:58,439 --> 01:43:58,680
Speaker 14: It is.

1981
01:43:58,800 --> 01:44:02,479
Speaker 3: If Travis Hunter played for the Giants, much different story

1982
01:44:02,560 --> 01:44:03,280
Speaker 3: the Cowboys.

1983
01:44:03,680 --> 01:44:04,400
Speaker 2: What are you talking about?

1984
01:44:04,400 --> 01:44:08,839
Speaker 3: We lead every single segment with a Travis Hunter update

1985
01:44:09,120 --> 01:44:11,680
Speaker 3: and just salivating for three and a half years from now,

1986
01:44:11,720 --> 01:44:13,760
Speaker 3: when Jerry was like, do we really want to pay

1987
01:44:13,800 --> 01:44:14,599
Speaker 3: Travis Hunter.

1988
01:44:14,439 --> 01:44:15,240
Speaker 2: For two position?

1989
01:44:15,439 --> 01:44:15,800
Speaker 8: The ball?

1990
01:44:16,000 --> 01:44:18,240
Speaker 2: He plays one? All right, let's kick it over to

1991
01:44:18,240 --> 01:44:20,200
Speaker 2: Steve Saga to bring some Uh.

1992
01:44:21,080 --> 01:44:23,519
Speaker 12: That's right, you'd be saying a few years tarning as salivating.

1993
01:44:23,600 --> 01:44:24,360
Speaker 2: They could have had.

1994
01:44:24,360 --> 01:44:26,760
Speaker 12: Hunter for fifty million a year. Now it's gonna cost

1995
01:44:26,840 --> 01:44:29,640
Speaker 12: him eighty, right, exactly probably what it's gonna be at.

1996
01:44:30,680 --> 01:44:32,519
Speaker 12: We'll get to football in a moment. But the Phillies

1997
01:44:32,560 --> 01:44:34,680
Speaker 12: are back in first in the NL East half game

1998
01:44:34,720 --> 01:44:36,760
Speaker 12: over the Mets, who lost it home twelve four to

1999
01:44:36,880 --> 01:44:40,360
Speaker 12: San Francisco. Then tonight at Philadelphia, the Phillies shutout Detroit

2000
01:44:40,439 --> 01:44:43,519
Speaker 12: two nothing. Kyle Schwarber with his thirty eighth home run

2001
01:44:43,600 --> 01:44:46,080
Speaker 12: that's tied for the NL lead. He has eighty eight

2002
01:44:46,240 --> 01:44:49,320
Speaker 12: RBIs that leads the National League. The Braves won for

2003
01:44:49,439 --> 01:44:52,160
Speaker 12: to two over the Reds at Bristol Motor Speedway in Tennessee.

2004
01:44:52,360 --> 01:44:55,080
Speaker 12: The game had been suspended by rain Saturday night in

2005
01:44:55,120 --> 01:44:58,040
Speaker 12: the first inning. They played the rest today. Official attendance

2006
01:44:58,160 --> 01:45:02,080
Speaker 12: ninety one thousand. Reds left twelve men on base and loss.

2007
01:45:02,360 --> 01:45:05,080
Speaker 12: The Dodgers were winners three nothing at Tampa Bay. There's

2008
01:45:05,120 --> 01:45:07,320
Speaker 12: still three games up on the Padres, who won again

2009
01:45:07,439 --> 01:45:10,200
Speaker 12: seven to three over Saint Louis. In the NL Central,

2010
01:45:10,320 --> 01:45:13,120
Speaker 12: the Brewers first place, still two games up on the Cubs.

2011
01:45:13,200 --> 01:45:17,200
Speaker 12: Milwaukee won fourteen to three at Washington. Nationals have lost

2012
01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:19,360
Speaker 12: five in a row. The Cubs were five three winners

2013
01:45:19,400 --> 01:45:22,240
Speaker 12: over Baltimore on a two run homer in the bottom

2014
01:45:22,280 --> 01:45:25,320
Speaker 12: of the ninth by pinch hitter Justin Turner. Kansas City

2015
01:45:25,400 --> 01:45:28,479
Speaker 12: won in ten innings at Toronto, seven to four. Boston

2016
01:45:28,520 --> 01:45:30,960
Speaker 12: won its fifth straight games six to one over Houston.

2017
01:45:31,280 --> 01:45:32,240
Speaker 2: Miami won its.

2018
01:45:32,200 --> 01:45:34,439
Speaker 12: Fifth in a row and swept the Yankees this weekend

2019
01:45:34,600 --> 01:45:38,080
Speaker 12: seven to three. Today's final, Seattle edge Texas five to four,

2020
01:45:38,200 --> 01:45:41,400
Speaker 12: beating Jacob de Grom. Wins on the road for Minnesota

2021
01:45:41,479 --> 01:45:44,639
Speaker 12: and Arizona Pittsburgh as well. Angels beat the White Sox

2022
01:45:44,720 --> 01:45:46,519
Speaker 12: in a comeback eight to five on a three run

2023
01:45:46,600 --> 01:45:50,280
Speaker 12: homer in the ninth NASCAR victory for William Byron at Iowa.

2024
01:45:50,520 --> 01:45:53,120
Speaker 12: Just three races left in the IndyCar season. The next

2025
01:45:53,160 --> 01:45:57,000
Speaker 12: event next weekend on Fox TV, again from Portland, Oregon.

2026
01:45:57,520 --> 01:46:00,799
Speaker 12: WNBA wins for Indiana and New York, even though Caitlin

2027
01:46:00,840 --> 01:46:04,479
Speaker 12: Clark and Breonna Stewart each out with injuries. Still, Buffalo

2028
01:46:04,520 --> 01:46:07,560
Speaker 12: Bill's running back James Cook sat out practice today. He

2029
01:46:07,680 --> 01:46:11,920
Speaker 12: wants a contract extension. Buffalo wide receiver Khalil Shakir is

2030
01:46:12,000 --> 01:46:14,760
Speaker 12: week to week with a high ankle. Spring Eagles wide

2031
01:46:14,800 --> 01:46:18,479
Speaker 12: out Aj Brown missed practice with a hamstring injury. Steelers

2032
01:46:18,600 --> 01:46:22,120
Speaker 12: linebacker Alex Highsmith left practice with a groin injury. The

2033
01:46:22,200 --> 01:46:25,200
Speaker 12: forty nine Ers signed veteran wide receiver Robbie Chosen, and

2034
01:46:25,280 --> 01:46:29,240
Speaker 12: the Dolphins gave defensive tackle Zach Seeler a three year extension.

2035
01:46:29,560 --> 01:46:33,120
Speaker 12: Where's forty four million dollars guaranteed? And now to the

2036
01:46:33,200 --> 01:46:36,120
Speaker 12: golf for the weekend. Well Live Golf was off. It'll

2037
01:46:36,160 --> 01:46:38,880
Speaker 12: be in Chicago next weekend on the PGA Tour. The

2038
01:46:38,960 --> 01:46:42,320
Speaker 12: stop was in North Carolina and an alum from Wake

2039
01:46:42,439 --> 01:46:46,839
Speaker 12: Forest was the winner. Cameron Young gets his first victory

2040
01:46:46,960 --> 01:46:50,280
Speaker 12: on the PGA Tour. He's been golfing four years on tour.

2041
01:46:50,400 --> 01:46:53,960
Speaker 12: This was his ninety fourth start, finally a victory, and

2042
01:46:54,120 --> 01:46:58,000
Speaker 12: he dominated this weekend a win at twenty two under par.

2043
01:46:58,600 --> 01:47:00,720
Speaker 12: The guy had been runner up seven times in his

2044
01:47:00,880 --> 01:47:03,320
Speaker 12: career and finally broke through. And by the way, the

2045
01:47:03,360 --> 01:47:07,479
Speaker 12: PGA Tour says, he is the one thousandth unique winner

2046
01:47:08,040 --> 01:47:10,920
Speaker 12: they've had on tour. They added up all the winners

2047
01:47:10,960 --> 01:47:13,320
Speaker 12: they've had since the eighteen hundreds. This is now one

2048
01:47:13,360 --> 01:47:16,679
Speaker 12: thousand different guys. And as far as the payout, Cameron

2049
01:47:16,760 --> 01:47:20,160
Speaker 12: Young wins nearly one point five million dollars today, the

2050
01:47:20,280 --> 01:47:24,000
Speaker 12: unknown second place golfer Mac Meisner nearly seven hundred and

2051
01:47:24,080 --> 01:47:26,760
Speaker 12: thirty thousand dollars. And this is the end of the

2052
01:47:26,840 --> 01:47:29,960
Speaker 12: regular season for the PGA Tour. The three weekends of

2053
01:47:30,040 --> 01:47:33,439
Speaker 12: playoffs start in Memphis with the Saint Jude Championship next

2054
01:47:33,479 --> 01:47:36,679
Speaker 12: weekend being a playoff event that's a twenty million dollar

2055
01:47:36,800 --> 01:47:40,800
Speaker 12: total purse, and then mid March mid August, i should

2056
01:47:40,800 --> 01:47:44,400
Speaker 12: say in Maryland, it's another twenty million dollar perse and

2057
01:47:44,439 --> 01:47:47,920
Speaker 12: then the Tour Championship in Atlanta, which will end three

2058
01:47:48,000 --> 01:47:49,160
Speaker 12: weeks from today.

2059
01:47:49,280 --> 01:47:52,720
Speaker 3: Back to you, Steve, thank you, Steve Penny for your

2060
01:47:52,840 --> 01:47:54,320
Speaker 3: thoughts on Happy Gilmore two.

2061
01:47:55,080 --> 01:47:56,600
Speaker 12: Did not see it, will not see it.

2062
01:47:57,000 --> 01:47:58,400
Speaker 2: Did you see? Happy Gilmore won?

2063
01:47:58,840 --> 01:48:02,240
Speaker 12: Many many, many moons ago? I cannot quote it. Unlike

2064
01:48:02,320 --> 01:48:03,240
Speaker 12: some people in the hallway.

2065
01:48:03,320 --> 01:48:04,840
Speaker 2: You won't watch Happy Gilmore too.

2066
01:48:05,120 --> 01:48:07,400
Speaker 12: I do not have that streaming package and will not

2067
01:48:07,560 --> 01:48:09,439
Speaker 12: buy it to watch Happy Gilmore too.

2068
01:48:09,560 --> 01:48:11,920
Speaker 2: You don't have Netflix, I do not, Steve. You have

2069
01:48:12,120 --> 01:48:15,479
Speaker 2: to move from the cave and come and get a condo. Somethhing.

2070
01:48:15,680 --> 01:48:19,280
Speaker 12: I've said this before. I hear people like during the

2071
01:48:19,320 --> 01:48:22,080
Speaker 12: week saying all these shows that they've gone through and

2072
01:48:22,160 --> 01:48:25,960
Speaker 12: they binge watched you know, this comedy that's twelve episodes.

2073
01:48:26,520 --> 01:48:29,400
Speaker 12: My first reaction is, how many hours are there in

2074
01:48:29,479 --> 01:48:33,920
Speaker 12: the day for you people? Football season especially, those hours

2075
01:48:33,960 --> 01:48:34,519
Speaker 12: don't exist.

2076
01:48:34,880 --> 01:48:37,400
Speaker 2: You're not in football season yet, Steve. This is the

2077
01:48:37,479 --> 01:48:39,000
Speaker 2: perfect time we are this week.

2078
01:48:39,080 --> 01:48:42,880
Speaker 3: Actually, I also, first of all, me and you sympatico

2079
01:48:42,960 --> 01:48:45,240
Speaker 3: here because I also agree like I don't know where

2080
01:48:45,320 --> 01:48:48,439
Speaker 3: the time is. Like I walk past like my fiance

2081
01:48:48,520 --> 01:48:51,519
Speaker 3: and well, just power through and I'll be like how

2082
01:48:51,960 --> 01:48:52,280
Speaker 3: me too.

2083
01:48:52,520 --> 01:48:55,600
Speaker 4: Are you so far into anyway? My wife and I

2084
01:48:56,320 --> 01:48:58,200
Speaker 4: that's you have to marry a partner who's down. We

2085
01:48:58,360 --> 01:49:02,839
Speaker 4: watch seventy hours of drive f ones Drive to Survive

2086
01:49:02,960 --> 01:49:08,520
Speaker 4: in five days, see like seven episodes, I mean seventh episode.

2087
01:49:08,200 --> 01:49:11,320
Speaker 12: Hired a babysitter and eat themselves.

2088
01:49:12,560 --> 01:49:15,840
Speaker 2: They're fourteen and eleven. Hey man, get out of here,

2089
01:49:15,920 --> 01:49:18,799
Speaker 2: go you on the fast flap? Will you make yourself

2090
01:49:18,880 --> 01:49:20,519
Speaker 2: a sandwich? That's exactly right.

2091
01:49:22,280 --> 01:49:24,320
Speaker 4: Do you have that You have no streaming services at

2092
01:49:24,320 --> 01:49:26,800
Speaker 4: all or just not yes, just not that one. In fact,

2093
01:49:26,880 --> 01:49:29,760
Speaker 4: win this a big one. You don't have the major one.

2094
01:49:30,439 --> 01:49:33,200
Speaker 12: Yeah, well I'm gonna miss two games on Christmas. Switch, well,

2095
01:49:33,280 --> 01:49:35,679
Speaker 12: you're gonna have to wit items which I did see

2096
01:49:35,800 --> 01:49:37,880
Speaker 12: last Christmas without having the services.

2097
01:49:38,280 --> 01:49:40,439
Speaker 2: It's just leg Steve got a new name.

2098
01:49:40,520 --> 01:49:43,800
Speaker 12: I didn't say that. That's not a reason for me

2099
01:49:44,000 --> 01:49:48,560
Speaker 12: to put it. Seems like twelve great months of entertainment. Congratulations,

2100
01:49:48,600 --> 01:49:51,120
Speaker 12: But as soon as years ago we were moving off

2101
01:49:51,160 --> 01:49:54,799
Speaker 12: the cable model and into streaming. Just as an American,

2102
01:49:54,880 --> 01:49:57,880
Speaker 12: I say, great options are great. Love this, but you

2103
01:49:57,960 --> 01:50:01,720
Speaker 12: could see where it's going that eventually, especially baseball and

2104
01:50:01,800 --> 01:50:06,519
Speaker 12: football with making deals with so many different services. You're

2105
01:50:06,560 --> 01:50:09,160
Speaker 12: gonna have to buy four or five, and no, I'm

2106
01:50:09,200 --> 01:50:14,479
Speaker 12: not buying four or five. Doesn't seem like Steve's it's funny.

2107
01:50:14,920 --> 01:50:15,360
Speaker 2: It is funny.

2108
01:50:15,360 --> 01:50:17,320
Speaker 9: I actually I found it funny too. I thought they

2109
01:50:17,360 --> 01:50:19,439
Speaker 9: did a good ChIL how good of a movie it is,

2110
01:50:20,800 --> 01:50:22,160
Speaker 9: but you know, it got some laughs.

2111
01:50:22,320 --> 01:50:26,080
Speaker 3: I wondered if it's it wouldn't have shocked me if

2112
01:50:26,320 --> 01:50:28,880
Speaker 3: if it was on whatever streaming service he has, if

2113
01:50:28,920 --> 01:50:30,599
Speaker 3: he would have flipped it on just for the sake

2114
01:50:30,640 --> 01:50:32,320
Speaker 3: of conversation because of the golf.

2115
01:50:32,240 --> 01:50:34,760
Speaker 12: Has been in conversation right. It was a huge in

2116
01:50:34,880 --> 01:50:36,080
Speaker 12: conversation last week.

2117
01:50:36,240 --> 01:50:39,559
Speaker 3: And honestly, I wanted Steve's thoughts regardless whether you see

2118
01:50:39,600 --> 01:50:41,240
Speaker 3: the movie or not, because I know you would have.

2119
01:50:41,760 --> 01:50:43,599
Speaker 2: I felt like you would add a figure. I think

2120
01:50:43,640 --> 01:50:44,599
Speaker 2: you'd enjoy it, Steve.

2121
01:50:44,960 --> 01:50:49,479
Speaker 3: I'll say this, Netflix to me specializes what I call

2122
01:50:49,640 --> 01:50:53,240
Speaker 3: laundry movies, Whereas as long as you are doing the

2123
01:50:53,400 --> 01:50:56,800
Speaker 3: laundry or something else as you watch the movie, you

2124
01:50:56,840 --> 01:51:00,560
Speaker 3: will really enjoy it as a laundry movie. Like I

2125
01:51:00,720 --> 01:51:03,400
Speaker 3: was playing the guitar. The entirety of watching Happy Gilmore.

2126
01:51:03,479 --> 01:51:04,280
Speaker 2: I thought it was great.

2127
01:51:04,479 --> 01:51:07,920
Speaker 12: So you're saying not Oscar winners. Is that what you're saying?

2128
01:51:07,960 --> 01:51:10,120
Speaker 2: In in other words, well, the first Happy Gilmore wasn't

2129
01:51:10,160 --> 01:51:11,040
Speaker 2: exactly the Godfather.

2130
01:51:11,360 --> 01:51:13,759
Speaker 12: I'm saying their whole lineup is what you're talking about.

2131
01:51:14,400 --> 01:51:17,360
Speaker 3: I will every so often they got some heat. Every

2132
01:51:17,439 --> 01:51:19,360
Speaker 3: so often they'll have something that was like that was

2133
01:51:19,439 --> 01:51:19,880
Speaker 3: really good.

2134
01:51:20,560 --> 01:51:24,280
Speaker 2: But it's it's kind of like, once you get to

2135
01:51:24,360 --> 01:51:26,040
Speaker 2: week thirteen of Thursday Night.

2136
01:51:25,960 --> 01:51:29,160
Speaker 3: Football, maybe one of the remaining games, it's gonna be

2137
01:51:29,200 --> 01:51:31,719
Speaker 3: a really good one, but we'll watch the rest.

2138
01:51:31,600 --> 01:51:33,640
Speaker 2: Of it just because for completion's sake. I guess I

2139
01:51:33,680 --> 01:51:34,799
Speaker 2: gotta watch Jack wars.

2140
01:51:34,680 --> 01:51:39,479
Speaker 12: Brown and eventually they'll pull out that uniform, so somebody's

2141
01:51:39,520 --> 01:51:42,599
Speaker 12: got to wear all red against a team oh yellow.

2142
01:51:42,800 --> 01:51:46,799
Speaker 12: It's the ketchup versus Mustard matchup on Thursday Night Football.

2143
01:51:47,120 --> 01:51:53,519
Speaker 2: Get into the color rush. Happy Gilmore too, I must watch.

2144
01:51:53,720 --> 01:51:56,200
Speaker 2: I can't. I can't think of a bigger split.

2145
01:51:57,040 --> 01:51:59,679
Speaker 3: First of all, Steve's got every light on any update

2146
01:51:59,760 --> 01:52:02,320
Speaker 3: a room and Ephim would love every let off in here.

2147
01:52:02,960 --> 01:52:05,599
Speaker 12: And just most Sundays, I cannot see that there even

2148
01:52:05,840 --> 01:52:06,880
Speaker 12: is somebody hosting it.

2149
01:52:07,400 --> 01:52:09,439
Speaker 2: Because he hides off in his corner too. So you

2150
01:52:09,560 --> 01:52:11,679
Speaker 2: really can't see. I'm in my own world.

2151
01:52:11,720 --> 01:52:16,000
Speaker 12: I've created a world as long as good radio is made.

2152
01:52:16,080 --> 01:52:18,160
Speaker 3: You know, I'm not mad at it, but it is

2153
01:52:18,880 --> 01:52:22,400
Speaker 3: slightly disconcerting as as we're coming back into the segment

2154
01:52:22,800 --> 01:52:25,200
Speaker 3: as a co host, the music is playing as well.

2155
01:52:25,400 --> 01:52:27,680
Speaker 3: The Netflix is still playing over here. He's got it

2156
01:52:27,800 --> 01:52:28,839
Speaker 3: chewed up on his iPad.

2157
01:52:29,520 --> 01:52:32,240
Speaker 12: Is the next F one episode?

2158
01:52:32,760 --> 01:52:34,840
Speaker 2: I'm watching that live now we've all caught up.

2159
01:52:35,560 --> 01:52:39,320
Speaker 9: Watched the golf one, the Full Swing. It's good too. Yeah,

2160
01:52:39,360 --> 01:52:40,560
Speaker 9: it'll get you into golf.

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Speaker 2: Got me in the golf.

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Speaker 12: So it's really it's really the Mark Willard influence on

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Speaker 12: the Sunday Night Show. There's a golfer four.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we love it, and Steve is great at it. See,

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Speaker 2: but it does end.

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Speaker 12: In three weeks golf and football begins, and that's that.

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Speaker 2: We got action. I tell you what.

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Speaker 3: In terms of sporting events that I've watched on TV

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Speaker 3: in the last five years, I can't really off the

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Speaker 3: top of my head. Watching Rory McElroy at the Masters

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Speaker 3: was like a top just five viewing experience. There was

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Speaker 3: a career element to that, of course, yeah, and I

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Speaker 3: wasn't I'm not into I am the definition of parachute

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Speaker 3: into golf, by the definition of like it's gotta be

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Speaker 3: I gotta see people tweeting about it Sunday afternoon for

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Speaker 3: me to turn on, you know, but watching him walk

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Speaker 3: down and then the in and outs on eighteen, and

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Speaker 3: then the playoff, and then I forget the guy who

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Speaker 3: at those stay warm, like just in case he gets

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Speaker 3: a shot to beat.

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Speaker 2: Him in the playoff.

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Speaker 9: Jim Nancy's call was just perfect too. McElroy has his masterpiece,

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Speaker 9: so goosebumps.

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Speaker 2: And Washington walking and walked down. I'm like, man, who's

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Speaker 2: cutting onions in here? This is awesome.

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Speaker 12: And golf does generally get good ratings for weekend sports

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Speaker 12: just for the record, of course. Then there's Chargers Lions

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01:54:02,160 --> 01:54:05,360
Speaker 12: this week that was over six million viewers to watch

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Speaker 12: backups play an exhibition game.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, Steve, I heard people, you know, reputable people

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Speaker 3: say Trey Lance is not done.

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Speaker 2: He is at his best game in his career.

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Speaker 3: He may have, but still, yeah, I think ultimately he's

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Speaker 3: got talent, will get an opportunity to show that talent

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Speaker 3: and cultivate it.

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Speaker 2: We'll see there's a lot of people with talent. Yeah.

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Speaker 12: Once the NFL goes to a twenty two game schedule.

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Speaker 12: Every quarterback's gonna get hurt.

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Speaker 3: So right that part I said when he got traded

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Speaker 3: to the Cowboys, I'll say it again, it's Trey Lance.

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Speaker 2: Better brush up on that, Saskatchewan because.

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Speaker 3: You're headed to the CFL coming up next though a star?

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01:54:48,800 --> 01:54:52,920
Speaker 2: If just gruntled, how will this end? If it does?

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Speaker 2: Is a gift coming to a new team. We'll get

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Speaker 2: to that in just a minute. Martin White's Ephram Saloon,

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: Martin Wis's Ephram Salaam, coming to you live from the

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio studio as we keep the seats warm

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Speaker 3: for another twelve minutes or so for Arnie and Plank.

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Speaker 2: That's the show sweeping the nation. Where should they start?

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Speaker 12: Right?

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01:55:19,480 --> 01:55:22,920
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying with the revenoumore rundown? Correct?

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Speaker 2: There you go? There you go?

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Speaker 3: Uh, they might start here Ephraim Micah Parsons goes full

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01:55:31,800 --> 01:55:35,560
Speaker 3: notes app and asks for a trade. Now, if this

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Speaker 3: plays out like the last two times we've seen just

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Speaker 3: gruntled player versus Jerry Jones, Michael Parsons will be suiting

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Speaker 3: up week one and rushing the pastor for the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: But just for a moment, you know, it's the weekend indulgement.

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Speaker 3: Envision a world where Michael Parsons does get traded. Is

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Speaker 3: there a team or what team do you think think

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Speaker 3: he could flip their fortunes.

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Speaker 2: Or is he that type of player?

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Speaker 3: Do you think he's the type of player that you

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01:56:09,760 --> 01:56:12,280
Speaker 3: plug in a spot and he can flip a team's fortunes.

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Speaker 2: I think that's a good question. I think if he

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Speaker 2: if he went to Cleveland, Okay, he can flip their

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01:56:29,520 --> 01:56:30,520
Speaker 2: their their fortune.

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Speaker 3: So because if you if you went to Cleveland now

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Speaker 3: and played the opposite of let's playing opposite Miles Garrett.

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Speaker 3: So it would be you have Michael on one edge,

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01:56:40,920 --> 01:56:43,160
Speaker 3: Miles Garrett on the other one, and this year's number

2233
01:56:43,200 --> 01:56:44,600
Speaker 3: five Picnation Graham in the middle.

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Speaker 2: That's tough. That's tough right there. You still don't have

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Speaker 2: a quarterback. Though. I think if he goes to New York, Okay,

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Speaker 2: play with Burns, Thibodeaux and Pittsburgh Lari So that was

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Speaker 2: to Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 3: That's interesting because that wasn't the team that I think

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Speaker 3: that are like, I think that he is a if

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Speaker 3: you take him and put him on this team, they

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Speaker 3: go from I guess they're slightly their favorites now.

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Speaker 2: I think Vegas is wrong.

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Speaker 3: But if the Buffalo Bills can put a package together

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01:57:18,640 --> 01:57:22,960
Speaker 3: and go get Michael Parsons to pair with Josh Allen

2245
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Speaker 3: over the next what's Josh twenty seven, twenty six, pair

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Speaker 3: with him over the next stretch, over the next four years.

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Speaker 2: That's it good. That's good.

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Speaker 3: I mean Josh twenty nine, twenty nine, all right, so cool,

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Speaker 3: next three years. Whatever you think Josh plays till the

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Speaker 3: that's really good. I think Josh probably has at least

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Speaker 3: until thirty two where he's still running in athletic and jumping,

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01:57:45,360 --> 01:57:48,160
Speaker 3: you know, jumping over buildings in a single bound type

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Speaker 3: of play.

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Speaker 2: That the style of player that he has. I think

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Speaker 2: he's got at least three more years of that in them.

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Speaker 2: You pair with Micah make Pike, and the Bill's not

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Speaker 2: paying I don't like the Bills are paying anybody like young.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I know they offered a lot of guys

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01:58:04,080 --> 01:58:06,040
Speaker 3: on their defensive big deals, but you tag them up

2260
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Speaker 3: there at Greg Russou like, and I thought that would

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01:58:09,560 --> 01:58:12,280
Speaker 3: definitely help them get over the hump. And they added

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Speaker 3: Joey Bosa. That's cool.

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Speaker 2: Joey Bosa might have ten sacks, but he might have

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Speaker 2: him in seven games.

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Speaker 9: He's already injured for them, right, Like, I'm not.

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Speaker 3: Expecting Wow, already Joey Bosa to like if he plays

2267
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Speaker 3: ten games, I think that's a win for Buffalo. Right,

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Speaker 3: And you kind of chase this dragon a little bit

2269
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Speaker 3: with von Miller before him, and now you did it

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Speaker 3: for joe Joey Bosa. If I'm Buffalo, if I'm Brandon Bean,

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Speaker 3: I'm picking up the phone. Listen, I'm picking with the

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Speaker 3: twenty seventh pick at best. Anyway, Jerry, what do you want?

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Speaker 2: I gave you two? Wolm. You know what I'm saying, Like,

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Speaker 2: what are we talking about here? What are we doing? If?

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Speaker 3: When the Chiefs won the Super Bowl against Rock Party

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01:58:50,680 --> 01:58:55,320
Speaker 3: and the Niners, Mahomes played well. Not taking anything away

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01:58:55,360 --> 01:58:58,880
Speaker 3: from it, they'll play if you drill it down. That

2278
01:58:59,040 --> 01:59:02,240
Speaker 3: won the Super Bowl was Chris Jones rushing brock Perty

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01:59:02,320 --> 01:59:05,800
Speaker 3: off the spot all day. That's the play that won

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Speaker 3: the Super Bowl. When Matthew Stafford and Cooper Cup went

2281
01:59:10,040 --> 01:59:13,520
Speaker 3: to the Super Bowl against Joe Burrow, offense play well.

2282
01:59:13,600 --> 01:59:16,360
Speaker 3: Cooper Cup played well. The play that won the Super

2283
01:59:16,400 --> 01:59:21,080
Speaker 3: Bowl was Aaron Donald tackling Joe Burrow because if he hadn't,

2284
01:59:21,160 --> 01:59:22,960
Speaker 3: Jamar Chase was wide open and I had to be

2285
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Speaker 3: a couple thousand dollars rich because I bettled Cincinnati, like

2286
01:59:28,400 --> 01:59:32,200
Speaker 3: you know, and just hell Buffalo, go back to Buffalo.

2287
01:59:32,400 --> 01:59:38,080
Speaker 3: If Chris Jones doesn't push Deon Thawkens into Josh Allen

2288
01:59:38,160 --> 01:59:41,440
Speaker 3: an AFT Championship game, forcing Allen to miss that deep throw,

2289
01:59:43,600 --> 01:59:46,280
Speaker 3: we might be having a whole different conversation about who's

2290
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Speaker 3: the real face of the league or who's the Kings?

2291
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Speaker 2: Right, you know what I'm saying, who's the Kings of THEFC.

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Speaker 4: He'd be a whole different story. That's a great point, seriously,

2293
01:59:54,600 --> 02:00:04,400
Speaker 4: And in that context, Dalla would be smart to try

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Speaker 4: to get maximum value. I don't know if they can

2295
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Speaker 4: afford him at the number that's out there, but I mean,

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Speaker 4: I don't if even if he stays in Dallas, he'd

2297
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Speaker 4: just be the highest paid d N just playing for

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Speaker 4: the money.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, to your point, like kind of the

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Speaker 3: same thing with Miles Garrett. When Miles Garrett asked for

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Speaker 3: the trade. There's a concept of like, ooh, are we

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Speaker 3: gonna see Miles Garrett in playoff? Games shortly after we

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02:00:35,120 --> 02:00:38,160
Speaker 3: found out the answers no right, and we've seen Mike

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Speaker 3: in a few playoff games.

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Speaker 2: But like

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Speaker 3: If I had to bet, I think the Cowboys aren't

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Speaker 3: dancing this postseason if I had to bet, Whereas Michael

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Speaker 3: Parsons will not be making plays in the playoffs because

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Speaker 3: Dallas will be sitting at home, just like I'll be

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Speaker 3: listening to Plank and Arnie coming up next.