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Speaker 2: Danny boy, how was it catching passes from him? Because

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Speaker 3: But I always joke about Danny and I always had

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Speaker 3: I said, Danny, Man, we we're on the same team. Now, man,

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Speaker 3: that was always a lot of fun Dan. You know,

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Speaker 3: Dan always said get your head around like Linda Blair,

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Speaker 4: Man, what up, everybody? I'm peanut to him.

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Speaker 2: And this is the NFL Player's Second Acts podcast and

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Speaker 2: with me as always as my trustee co host Roman Coovid.

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Speaker 4: Harper, I was trying to make us something.

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Speaker 5: So I was like, okay, I got admit, I think

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Speaker 5: this is the first time I love Peanuts shirt more

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Speaker 1: And it's beautiful, you know, And.

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Speaker 4: It's like the third compliment I got on my shirt.

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 5: And I'm really excited about our guest that we have

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Speaker 5: on right now. I know I hate saying this, but

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Speaker 5: I grew up big fan of this and loved watching

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Speaker 5: him play and compete, and he's some of Miami's own

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Speaker 5: and finest players of all time. So we talked about

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Speaker 5: eight year vet for the Dolphins. He's in the Dolphins

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Speaker 4: Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to the pot mister oh

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Speaker 1: Hey, thank you, Thank you man. I appreciate that now.

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Speaker 3: You guys know, though it's officially nine years when it

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, so I apologize single if you won't apology.

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Speaker 6: He got his nine years, don't. I'm sure it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: I mean he was I meant everything I said, though

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Speaker 4: He's I was like, I didn't.

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Speaker 3: So man, that's yeah, well you know what you see

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Speaker 5: There's more games played over there now than ever, and

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Speaker 3: But you know I didn't I didn't face No, I

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Speaker 1: That's the name of the school. How you said that?

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Speaker 5: Oh, Ducaine, Ducaine, Okay against the Cave, Yeah, okay Ca.

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Speaker 5: Congratulations that did not know that you had a great

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Speaker 3: Basketball is my fast We all think we can hoop, man,

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 1: And that worked out really well for me too, just

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Speaker 4: In college?

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Speaker 7: But when it was at that time, though, it was

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Speaker 1: That's really all his job was was the coach. Joe

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Speaker 3: You as a freshman, you're really really intimidated by Joe,

440
00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:27,800
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? I think, Yeah, I got

441
00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,840
Speaker 3: a story when I was a friend. What intimidate him though, Well,

442
00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:32,879
Speaker 3: just his stature in terms of you know, he's not

443
00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:34,840
Speaker 3: a big guy, but just you know who he is,

444
00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,199
Speaker 3: and like, you know, if he says something, you know

445
00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,760
Speaker 3: it's like, you know, it's the gospel really, and you

446
00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,159
Speaker 3: look at him, first of all, you look at him

447
00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,240
Speaker 3: those glasses and you know, you kind of get messm

448
00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:47,480
Speaker 3: rides a little bit. You know, we always joke about

449
00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,640
Speaker 3: that with Joe man. But when he starts talking, man,

450
00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:53,840
Speaker 3: it's like, you know, you don't want to you want

451
00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:55,680
Speaker 3: to make sure you do everything that Joe's asking you

452
00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,919
Speaker 3: to do, Like things like we had at Penn Stateles.

453
00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,359
Speaker 3: Everybody had to be at breakfast every morning, eight o'clock morning.

454
00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,199
Speaker 3: You could have an eleven o'clock class, but you have

455
00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,160
Speaker 3: to be at breakfast every single morning. And he said

456
00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:05,359
Speaker 3: a lot of you guys aren't gonna make it to

457
00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,760
Speaker 3: the pros, but you're gonna have You're gonna work, and

458
00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:09,440
Speaker 3: when you work, you're gonna get up every morning and

459
00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:11,159
Speaker 3: go to work. So that was always something that we

460
00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,200
Speaker 3: you know, he always always preached us. He also said,

461
00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,640
Speaker 3: you know you're going to class. We go to class.

462
00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:18,280
Speaker 3: If you found out you were a skipping class, he'd

463
00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,199
Speaker 3: have somebody follow you for two or three weeks. Make

464
00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,240
Speaker 3: sure you're going to every single class, you know, and

465
00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,360
Speaker 3: things like that. Study hall. Study hall was mandatory for freshmen.

466
00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,800
Speaker 3: If you're messing up in school as a sophomore, junior, senior,

467
00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:29,960
Speaker 3: you're going to study hall as well. You know, things

468
00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:31,639
Speaker 3: like that was all that the things that he had

469
00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:33,480
Speaker 3: to worry about, and you make sure you didn't want.

470
00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,640
Speaker 1: To cross him on any of that stuff, you know, because.

471
00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,400
Speaker 3: Joe would not play the best players that they weren't

472
00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,400
Speaker 3: doing the right things, you know, every day, going to breakfast,

473
00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,359
Speaker 3: going to class, having their grades up. Some of our

474
00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,840
Speaker 3: best players didn't even go on bowl trips because you know,

475
00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,359
Speaker 3: they were eligible, but their grades were not what he

476
00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:50,119
Speaker 3: wanted them to be. So that's that's some of the

477
00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,639
Speaker 3: things that he worried about, and we're more concerned about

478
00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,239
Speaker 3: than anything when it came to us.

479
00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:55,160
Speaker 1: And then when you know.

480
00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,359
Speaker 3: Then you look at I tell you one time, I

481
00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:01,000
Speaker 3: went to Joe's office my freshman year and I was

482
00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,119
Speaker 3: upset about lack of playing time, you know. So I

483
00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:05,840
Speaker 3: go and I say, I got I got all this stuff.

484
00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:07,800
Speaker 3: You know, I'm sitting outside his office. I got all

485
00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:09,439
Speaker 3: these things in my mind that I'm on tell him right.

486
00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:14,120
Speaker 3: And so finally is his secretary said, okay, coach, Coach

487
00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:15,320
Speaker 3: is ready to see you now. So I go and

488
00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,639
Speaker 3: I got all this stuff in my mind. Right, I

489
00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:22,119
Speaker 3: sit down. All I remember saying is thank you for

490
00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:22,720
Speaker 3: your time.

491
00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,840
Speaker 1: Coach, say. I didn't get one worded. I didn't get

492
00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:26,680
Speaker 1: one worded.

493
00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,080
Speaker 8: He told me, like, I know you upset about your

494
00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,000
Speaker 8: playing time. Yeah, I know that. You know you think

495
00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:33,920
Speaker 8: you should be playing right now. I know your grades

496
00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,600
Speaker 8: are good. But all this stuff he kept saying. I

497
00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,600
Speaker 8: didn't get anything off that I was going to say.

498
00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:40,800
Speaker 8: And all I remember saying is thank you for your time, coach,

499
00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:42,679
Speaker 8: And that was it. And so that was just you

500
00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:44,680
Speaker 8: know the relationship with Joe. But that was as a freshman.

501
00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,959
Speaker 8: As a senior, you know, once I decided to you know,

502
00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,240
Speaker 8: the hanging at Penn State, you know, played in the

503
00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,840
Speaker 8: Fiesta Bowl, had a great, great game there with the

504
00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:54,400
Speaker 8: Joe said, Joe, I want to come back.

505
00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:55,920
Speaker 3: He said, just wait a second, let me see what

506
00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:57,480
Speaker 3: we're going to go in the draft. You know, he

507
00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,240
Speaker 3: saw where I was going to draft his late first,

508
00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,880
Speaker 3: early second round. He said, You're welcome to come back

509
00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:03,400
Speaker 3: if you want. That's why I decided to go back

510
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,160
Speaker 3: my last year. It was just a relationship just changed

511
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,199
Speaker 3: over time with Joe, who was five years as at

512
00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:08,680
Speaker 3: Penn State.

513
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:13,200
Speaker 5: I love that now you went from Joe Paterno to

514
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:17,639
Speaker 5: Don Shula and then you went from Don Shula to

515
00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:22,760
Speaker 5: Jimmy Johnson, another great legendary name in good coaching ranks.

516
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,240
Speaker 5: So what was that like because that was a different

517
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,800
Speaker 5: experience too. Most people know Jimmy Johnson from the Cowboys,

518
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 5: the young people, as my Son would say, the new

519
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:36,440
Speaker 5: gen don't know Jimmy Johnson from the Dolphins.

520
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,200
Speaker 1: Trying to keep it a buck. Yeah, I hope you do,

521
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:39,640
Speaker 1: all right.

522
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not a big Jimmy Johnson fan, love it

523
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,720
Speaker 3: at all. You know, he and I never got along.

524
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,680
Speaker 3: We still don't get along, you know. Going from Shula

525
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,160
Speaker 3: to Jimmy Johnson was a huge downgrade for the Miami Dolphins.

526
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:57,200
Speaker 3: In my opinion, Don Shula was respected great coach. I

527
00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 3: think Jimmy Johnson got along on great talent, got great

528
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 3: town and him had great talent and Cowboys once he

529
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 3: got know, you know, the Hearschel Walker trade. But I

530
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 3: thought it was, you know, just an average coach at best,

531
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 3: you know, so and he and I never got along,

532
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,439
Speaker 3: you know, still to this day, like I said, uh,

533
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,200
Speaker 3: you know, so, he's not even in the same class

534
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,359
Speaker 3: as Joe Paterno and Don Shula.

535
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,920
Speaker 1: Man, he's a class way below those guys. And we'll

536
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 1: be right back. Dann Reno.

537
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 2: Let's talk about that, Danny boy, how was it catching

538
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,360
Speaker 2: passes from him? Because when you got here, you quickly

539
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:32,879
Speaker 2: became his favorite target.

540
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

541
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, thank goodness that I had that opportunity.

542
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 3: It took a little time. You know, Dupriank Clayton had

543
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 3: just left that same year, Irvin Friar, mark Ingram came

544
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,679
Speaker 3: in that year, and so I had an opportunity to

545
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,959
Speaker 3: really learn from those guys. Keith Jackson came the year

546
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,159
Speaker 3: before that, so I had an opportunity to learn from

547
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 3: all those guys. So I really came in as a

548
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,920
Speaker 3: return guy. Yeah for the most part. But I always

549
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,879
Speaker 3: joke about Danny and I always had a problem with

550
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 3: each other because, you know, he went to pitt I

551
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 3: went to Penn State, and we just didn't said, Danny, man,

552
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 3: we're on the same team. Now, Man, you gotta let

553
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 3: that stuff go. You know, you gotta start throwing me

554
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 3: the rock a little bit. And so halfway through my

555
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 3: rookie season, I got a little bit of opportunities with

556
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,119
Speaker 3: the team, and then that second year, man, it was

557
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 3: just like we were clicking.

558
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 1: And that was that was always a lot of fun Dan.

559
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 3: You know, Dan always said get your head around like

560
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 3: Lynda Blair, you know, like from the exorcistem because the

561
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 3: ball's coming, bro And it was, it was coming, man.

562
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 3: But in college I played with Kerry Collins for two years.

563
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:27,679
Speaker 3: He threw a ninety five miles out of fastball too,

564
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 3: so I was kind of prepared for Danny's fastball. But

565
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 3: it was it was just great, man. Like I talked

566
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 3: about earlier, being able to walk in that locker room

567
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 3: and see that man, you know, Dan and the man.

568
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,160
Speaker 3: You know, he was probably in a year thirteen at

569
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,919
Speaker 3: that point, maybe twelve at that point, still in his prime.

570
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 3: You know, it was just incredible. You know, we have

571
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,679
Speaker 3: like sixty lockers in the locker room. There's like eighty

572
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 3: guys on the you know, on the team, and Danny

573
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 3: still got two lockers.

574
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 1: That tells me he's the man, you know.

575
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 3: And the fact that you know, Dan Marino can sell

576
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,679
Speaker 3: Isotna gloves in South Florida, that really told me he

577
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,679
Speaker 3: was the And then once I got on the squad

578
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 3: with him, man, I realized that, yeah, Dan's definitely the man.

579
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 2: But what made him so war made him so good?

580
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 2: The way he threw his ball, Like what made him

581
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 2: Everyone talked I've talked to, We interviewed on Jim Kelly.

582
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,360
Speaker 1: He was like, no, I put like a nice little spar.

583
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,160
Speaker 2: I had this this nail on my my pinky nail,

584
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:17,959
Speaker 2: and I would just kind of like let it roll

585
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 2: off my pinky nail and get the nice spart. Like

586
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,400
Speaker 2: what what made Dan such a good quarterback? The way

587
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 2: he threw his ball?

588
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 1: Yeah?

589
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 3: You know, you know, if you ever look at Danny,

590
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,439
Speaker 3: you see some of these quarterbacks, now they got this

591
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 3: big wind up.

592
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,399
Speaker 1: You know, Danny never had a real wind up. He

593
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 1: threw right from the ear.

594
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 3: You know, he threw right from here, and it was

595
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 3: quick like a you know, a quick release. Danny tell

596
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 3: you this day he couldn't throw the ball with sixty yards,

597
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,399
Speaker 3: but he can throw it, you know, fifty on a

598
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,360
Speaker 3: rope because he brings them here and it's really tight.

599
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 3: So and one thing that Danny did that was better

600
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 3: than most quarterbacks. This anticipation was unbelievable. You know, if

601
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 3: you're not, like I said, if you're not out of

602
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 3: your break with your head around on a curl route

603
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,919
Speaker 3: or an out route, the balls on units or it's

604
00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 3: by you. So his anticipation is a bit bility to

605
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 3: recoverage was incredible, and his ability to hold his snap

606
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 3: count to dictate help us and help them on to

607
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 3: see what you know, roll with the defense is playing,

608
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 3: what coverage are they playing? So it hold his snapcount

609
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 3: just enough for those safeties to start rotating, going to

610
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 3: the middle, going to the numbers, whatever it might be.

611
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 3: And hell, we took advantage of that all the time.

612
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: Man.

613
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 3: So his knowledge of the game, you know, his fire,

614
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 3: his fire is unbelievable. Like how how competitive he was

615
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 3: was unbelievable. We get we're down in the game and

616
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 3: we need to go down there, maybe for a field

617
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 3: goal to win it. Danny said, no, no, we're not

618
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 3: bringing the kicker out here. We're gonna score a touchdown,

619
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,679
Speaker 3: you know. And once we got into that, that mode

620
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 3: of going out there, you know, with the game on

621
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 3: the line, we knew we had a great opportunity to

622
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 3: winning football game. So all those things about Danny, this

623
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 3: competitiveness is a natural ability. He had a sixth sense

624
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 3: in the pocket that you know, he's not the most

625
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 3: mobile guy, but hell he can move left or right

626
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 3: or up or back, and man, he just throw that fastball.

627
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 1: It was. It was just incredible to watch the times.

628
00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 5: He was always really fun because he'd get to the

629
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 5: top the drop kind of slide up because he was Yeah,

630
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 5: he wasn't very fast, but he had really good pocket presence,

631
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 5: I would say, and really stepping up. I gotta ask

632
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,360
Speaker 5: you one thing because this was you didn't wear gloves.

633
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 5: I did all the time. Yeah, I tried.

634
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 3: You know, I tried not to, but I did most

635
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 3: of the time because I wanted to try to control

636
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 3: the surface of my gloves. You know, because you're playing

637
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 3: cold weather, your hands are cold nicy. Playing hot weather,

638
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 3: you get all sweaty. So the gloves kind of kept

639
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 3: everything the same for me. So and plus you know,

640
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 3: I was a block and we blocked so much at

641
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 3: Penn State that I just you know, that's how you

642
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 3: protect your hands more than anything, because face mask to

643
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 3: face masks a rough deal. But yeah, I wore I

644
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 3: wore gloves most of the time.

645
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, good, I couldn't remember that if it

646
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 1: was I never wore gloves, and I didn't get it.

647
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 1: It was a couple of.

648
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 4: Guys back then.

649
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 2: Receivers don't wear gloves, so it just did not wear

650
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 2: it looked a little stink. They got zero swag.

651
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. We also like when it would rain down here.

652
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 5: I don't know if you guys had the good gloves

653
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 5: that could go through like now you got different.

654
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 3: Those scupa gloves back in the day, you know, but

655
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 3: those things they ripped. You get through you know, a

656
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 3: quarter and those things are all ripped. They had the

657
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,679
Speaker 3: ones that had to stick them on them.

658
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: Kind of deals.

659
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 3: You slide in the grass one time, is full of grass.

660
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 3: They're no good anymore. Nowadays, the gloves are absolutely incredible,

661
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 3: right right.

662
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,479
Speaker 5: They catch anything, They catch anything, everybody and everything, no

663
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 5: matter what the weather is. So was did you ever

664
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 5: feel any pressure as a wide receiver here because you

665
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 5: came here right after Duper and Clayton left.

666
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

667
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 3: I think the fact that we just picked up Urban

668
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,880
Speaker 3: Fryar mark Ingram free agency helped me out a lot.

669
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: You know.

670
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 3: I didn't have that first round pressure that most first

671
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 3: rounds would have for that position. So my gig really

672
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 3: was turn punts and return kicks, you know, So that

673
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,360
Speaker 3: helped me out a lot. Some of these other first

674
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 3: rounds they come in and they're like, you know, call

675
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 3: them bus already, and they haven't even you know, taken

676
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 3: a snap for the most part.

677
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 1: So uh, friar and duper, I mean Friar and Ingram.

678
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 3: Also, we had Tony Martin on the staff, you know,

679
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 3: so we had a bunch of receivers already where I

680
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 3: wasn't counting on too much to go in there and

681
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 3: make an impact as a receiver. Uh, so that pressure

682
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 3: was alleviated. Now there was a lot of pressure to

683
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 3: return kicks. Yeah, you know, and thank goodness, man, Like

684
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 3: my first kick I took uh preseason was in Atlanta

685
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 3: in the preseason game, and I took that one back

686
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 3: ninety four touchdown. And then I have two part returns

687
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 3: during the regular season for touchdown. So you know that

688
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 3: right there, you did your job. Yeah, whatever I did,

689
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 3: I did Yeah.

690
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you definitely did your job.

691
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 2: I think we all have a moment in our career

692
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 2: that we're most proud of or that just kind of

693
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 2: stands out. You know, when you get your eleven I

694
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 2: don't want to short stack years, right, Okay, I got

695
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 2: you got your eleven. You got that one player, I

696
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 2: got my thirteen. I got that one play, that one

697
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 2: moment out of your eight years that you played in

698
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 2: the national Sorry than out of the nine you got

699
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 2: in the National Football League, what's the what's the career

700
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 2: moment for you that you could just your your go

701
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 2: to player.

702
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 6: We're just like, oh man, this so and so, what's

703
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 6: that play for you?

704
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what, I think it's more of a

705
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 3: series of plays. You know, I talked about it sometimes

706
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 3: where you know, Dan Marino was sitting on three hundred

707
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 3: and ninety eight touchdown passes, right We're playing the Saints

708
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,959
Speaker 3: here at home, and and he comes up to all

709
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 3: the receivers like, yeah, he comes up to all the

710
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 3: receivers like, yo, once I throw my second touchdown pass,

711
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 3: I need that football. Like he already knew he was

712
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 3: going to throw at least two touchdown pass in that game.

713
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 3: That's the confidence that he had. And so I got

714
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 3: three ninety nine in a zone in the end zone,

715
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 3: and I gave that to min Cei, who just came

716
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 3: to her first football game down here to see me

717
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 3: living living in Ohio, living in Columbus, Ohio. Then we're

718
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 3: calling to play. We're down in the five yard line.

719
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 3: A play goes in Coach Robert Ford. Here's the play call.

720
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 3: He substitutes me in and it takes Lamar Thomas out.

721
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 3: It's a five yard out. I scored a touch down

722
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 3: right there and was able to give Danny four hundred,

723
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 3: you know, And so that was that was a special moment.

724
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 3: And then later in that game, I caught four to one.

725
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 3: I gave that one to my mom. Oh's.

726
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: So that was that. That that game right there.

727
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 3: Would always you know, be in my mind forever, just

728
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 3: because of all the different factors.

729
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 5: I know, they didn't have fantasy football, but you'd have

730
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 5: been a good pick up that had been great fantasy

731
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 5: you know.

732
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: Well, let me tell you this.

733
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 3: Me tell you the funny part about it, Broman is that, uh,

734
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 3: you know my wife, you know, she was she's ten

735
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 3: years younger than me, right, and they were doing for

736
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 3: math class, they were doing fantasy football and so so

737
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 3: on on Monday morning, their math teacher would have them

738
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 3: calculate fantasy football points, you know, to to you know,

739
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 3: for a grade basically, you know. And so once her

740
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 3: math teacher found out she was married to me, he

741
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 3: he let her know that you don't even know this,

742
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 3: but you were calculating this stats when you were in

743
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 3: high school, you know, And she's like, get out, she

744
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 3: didn't realize that I was a guy that you know,

745
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 3: she was doing her math project or math homework for

746
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 3: doing fantasy football on Monday after a Sunday game.

747
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: That is crazy.

748
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 5: That is crazy though, but like because back in the day,

749
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 5: that's how they had to do it. You had to

750
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 5: wait till Monday, all the paper, yeah, all the stats.

751
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 4: When life was so simple, right, all right, now so simple.

752
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: You know.

753
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 5: We call this the Second Acts podcast for a reason,

754
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 5: and so we'd like to hear everybody's journey in their

755
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 5: pathway and talk about that transition period of Okay, you're

756
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 5: didn't getting done with your career now, and then now

757
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 5: you announce your retirement because you maybe talk to us

758
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 5: maybe about your retirement process and then after that your

759
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 5: transition process and to what you started to do next.

760
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, both of you guys. Know, man, very few people

761
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 3: retire in their own terms. You know, most people you know, uh,

762
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 3: you know, you're not John Elway's or the Paydon Mannings

763
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 3: or those guys here where they can walk away from

764
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 3: the game whenever they want to. So yeah, unfortunately, injury

765
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 3: forced me into retirement my left foot, and it took

766
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 3: a little while to you know, to figure out that

767
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 3: I wasn't gonna be able to play again, multiple surgeries

768
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 3: on it, and so that pretty much led me into retirement.

769
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 3: That's why that, That's why, Peter, That's why that that

770
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 3: ninth year I was on staff, but I wasn't really

771
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 3: doing anything. I was really just the first guy in

772
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 3: line to get my check, you know what I mean,

773
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 3: because I felt like I earned that. You definite, you

774
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 3: definitely earned it. But yeah, so the first few years

775
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 3: for most of us, man, it's tough. It was rough man,

776
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 3: trying to figure out, you know, what'll we do because

777
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 3: every day of our lives for so long was so regimented.

778
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 3: Every single minute of your day was so regimented. So

779
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 3: I was kind of lost, man like, trying to figure

780
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 3: out what I wanted to do. I was doing some

781
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 3: some you know, off and on radio spots for some

782
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 3: radio shows down here, and and that was kind of fun.

783
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 3: And then I got offered a position to do some

784
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 3: radio down here, and so I started doing a mid

785
00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 3: day show down here for seven ninety to ticket it.

786
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 3: Did some work with five sixty w QAM, so so

787
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 3: radio became my gig then until I hated it, you know,

788
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 3: I hated it like I got to the point where like, damn,

789
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 3: you know, people on the radio was like, if you

790
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 3: do radio, it's like an all day thing. I might

791
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 3: be on from ten to two, but I got to

792
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 3: wake up early in prep.

793
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: For show going to ten.

794
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 3: Then I got to watch everything that night, you know

795
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 3: what I mean, every single thing that goes on, because

796
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 3: I don't want to get on the next day and

797
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 3: get stumped by some caller that says, you know, did

798
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 3: you watch the Heat, Marlin's, you know, Panthers.

799
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: I think that's why I love all those teams.

800
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 3: Those are my four teams, Heat, Marlin's, Panthers, and obviously Dolphins.

801
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 3: So I watched all that stuff just so I could

802
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 3: do radio. But it became a grind for me that

803
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 3: I didn't didn't enjoy. I dreaded going to work every day.

804
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: Oh that's not a good place to be.

805
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think a lot of people do. Man,

806
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 3: I get it. A lot of people don't enjoy it

807
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 3: where they work. But you know, I mean, it became

808
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 3: that for me, and so I try to figure out

809
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 3: other way. So then I started doing some TV for

810
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 3: the Dolphins. I did you know, I'm doing some radio

811
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 3: now form. But I only do pregame. I can't do

812
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 3: that same grind. Yeah, no, no, no, And so I

813
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 3: just do some things like that, and of course like

814
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 3: you guys do man podcasts. That's more what I enjoyed

815
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 3: doing than what I was doing that that that grind

816
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 3: the whole time, you know, you know, five days a week,

817
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 3: you know, ten to two watching everything. Uh so it was,

818
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,919
Speaker 3: it was That's why that's where I ended up doing

819
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 3: right now. So pretty much I'm just you know, doing

820
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 3: radio for the team. I do a podcast. I was

821
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 3: doing it for the team. I'm not anymore as of

822
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,879
Speaker 3: this year. But you know, I'm just being a part

823
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 3: of the team. I'm on our alumni advisory board.

824
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 5: We help out a lot of former players that might

825
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 5: be in a little need, a little.

826
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 3: You know, a little leg up and different things. So

827
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 3: just being a part of organization has been huge for

828
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 3: me since I think supports to some when you retire

829
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 3: h is huge.

830
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: I had a good one. You had a good one.

831
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 4: What was your support system like when you retired?

832
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: Yeah?

833
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,720
Speaker 3: I mean, for one, I had no kids at that point.

834
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 3: You know, I wasn't married at that point, so really

835
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 3: it was just me and my boys, man, my friends,

836
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 3: My mom was always she was always a huge part

837
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 3: of what I was doing.

838
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 1: Man.

839
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 3: She moved down here mid nineties to be with me

840
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 3: in terms of down here in South Florida. So she

841
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 3: was huge man up on my retirement. But still though, Man,

842
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 3: there's a lot of things man mentally physically that weren't

843
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 3: going right.

844
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: From my foot was still mess.

845
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 3: You know, I think you know a lot of us

846
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 3: and a lot of us this is keeping the buck too, man.

847
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 3: You know, drink a lot, hang out a lot, just

848
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 3: trying to figure out where we're going in life. And

849
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 3: so yeah, the support system was there. All my buddies

850
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 3: moved down here. You know, we're from Ohio or somewhere else,

851
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 3: so all they all end up moving down here. Anyways,

852
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 3: my best friend with Johnny Carter, you know, he's my

853
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 3: son's godfathers, you know. So you know, they all moved out,

854
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 3: they came down to visit, never left. That's the norm

855
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 3: down here in South Florida.

856
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 1: Forgot you and.

857
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 5: Kid Johnny Carter where yeah in the Penn State around

858
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 5: the city.

859
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my I'm the one that I hosted him

860
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 3: and you know I got him signed to stay at

861
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 3: Penn State. Hum and Bobby ingram My two dogs that

862
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 3: I had to go get and I got them. Yeah,

863
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 3: and we're very cool ever since.

864
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: Man.

865
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 3: So but you know, my best friends in college became

866
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 3: my brothers down here as well.

867
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 5: I can't believe you made it nine years in the

868
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 5: league and didn't get booed up. That boy made it

869
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 5: free and clear. That was a that was that. I mean,

870
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 5: you deserve a Super Bowl ring.

871
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 4: Off of that.

872
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 3: Well, you know it's South Florida, Florida.

873
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 1: Man, keep it keep it moving, Just keep it moving. Man.

874
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, that boy, that boy deserve a ring for that.

875
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 5: Uh, stupid bro, I'm sorry, you a fool.

876
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: Tell me this. Tell let's talk about the fish Tank podcast. Yes,

877
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 1: all right, so who what are you guys trying?

878
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 5: Uh tell the fans and the viewers all about it

879
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 5: because for those that have never seen it and would

880
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 5: like to know more about it.

881
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know the fish Tank Podcast. A buddy

882
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 3: of mine, real good friend of mine, Seth Levitt, who

883
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 3: used to work in our PR department back when I

884
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 3: was with the Dolphins. He came in when Jimmy came

885
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:08,280
Speaker 3: in ninety six. He came to me, approached me about

886
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 3: doing a podcast in twenty eighteen, and what happened was,

887
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 3: you know, we go to all these different charity events,

888
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 3: you know, and everybody's got a charity event. There's so

889
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 3: many golf events, whatever it might be. And you sit around,

890
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 3: you guys know this. You sit around and guy's just

891
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 3: telling all these stories, all these anecdotes. You know, him

892
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 3: self was like, you know what, why don't we put

893
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 3: that on a podcast? When't we have a guest and

894
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 3: have them come in and just tell a whole bunch

895
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 3: of stories. And so that's how our podcast started off. Like,

896
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 3: you know, we started off with like guys like Channing Crowder.

897
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 3: You know, we had Channing Channing know, he's got so

898
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 3: many stories, you know, overshare it too. Oh yeah, he

899
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 3: says a lot, he does a lot of some things

900
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 3: he might want to keep. Yeah he does, he does,

901
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 3: and it's working for him. But yeah, yeah that's different

902
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 3: for me. But you know, so that's how we started. Like,

903
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 3: you know, we get these guys in, you know, we'll

904
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 3: start telling these stories. And that's how we started the

905
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 3: fish Tank, you know, Dolphin Tales from the Deepest what

906
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 3: it's what the tagline is on that. And so these

907
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 3: guys were you know, coming in telling these stories. We

908
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 3: started off at my house on a pool table, you know,

909
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 3: with microphones, like we went on Amazon then, like you know,

910
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 3: three hundred and eighty dollars on a a couple of

911
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 3: microphones and a little little switchboard and everything like that,

912
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 3: and it's morphine what we have now to always you know,

913
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 3: actually being part of the Dolphins network for a while

914
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 3: and being on TV more. Of course now everybody's got

915
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 3: their podcast on TV or online live and things like that.

916
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 3: But that's where it started, man, because guys love to

917
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 3: sit there and tell stories, and we wanted to hear

918
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 3: the stories, but we want everybody else to hear them too,

919
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 3: the ones they were able to tell, and so that

920
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 3: was always a fun thing for us. And so bringing

921
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,240
Speaker 3: back the old guys. They love telling the stories. Seth

922
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 3: does a great job of research and we joked some guys'

923
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 3: memories and they say, oh, how do you know about that?

924
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 3: Where'd you hear that at? You know, and they love

925
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 3: telling those stories, and so it's just always fun for us.

926
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 3: And I always learned a lot, you know, when we

927
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 3: do the podcast. Some guys I play with, I learned

928
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 3: more you know doing the podcast, and I did when

929
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 3: I played with them for five years, you know, and

930
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 3: that's always a lot of fun. And then of course

931
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 3: the guys I never played with, I learned everything about

932
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 3: them through it too, man. So that's what that's what

933
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 3: we got the idea, and that's why we that's what

934
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 3: we're doing to this day.

935
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 2: So I'm real big in the community service. I know

936
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 2: Roman is too. You do a lot of things too.

937
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 2: Where did you get the philanthropic bug? Where did that

938
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 2: come from?

939
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, It's always been by mom. You know.

940
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 3: Mom's always like, you know, always give back, Always give

941
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 3: back to you know, you've been giving so much, make

942
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 3: sure you give something back. So we've been I've been

943
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,720
Speaker 3: doing that ever since I was in high school. Continued

944
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 3: at Penn State, and then once I got here, you know,

945
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 3: everybody had you know, the Marino had a foundation, and

946
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:47,720
Speaker 3: you know, Dwight Stevenson has a foundation.

947
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: All these guys have foundations. Make sure you continue doing that.

948
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 3: And then my mom, you know, and I we partnered

949
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 3: with Cissy fibrosis American Cancer Society started doing things like that,

950
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 3: and then we decided to start our own foundation, the O. J.

951
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 3: Mcduffiely Catch eighty one Foundation, and so we We did

952
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 3: that because we wanted to start given to some charities

953
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 3: that were near and dear to our hearts. Single parent homes,

954
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 3: you know, because my mom having shs fifteen years old,

955
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,760
Speaker 3: so we were always pretty much by ourselves from fifteen

956
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,720
Speaker 3: on and then you know, and things like that, giving

957
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 3: back to you know, some towns, some places like some

958
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:29,240
Speaker 3: small schools in Miami, Jack and Jill Learning Center, SOS

959
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 3: Children's Village. Those are things that we were more near

960
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 3: and dear to us. So that's when we created Catch

961
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 3: eighty one Foundation and started raising money for that.

962
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: We'll be back in a minute. I love that. I

963
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 1: love that.

964
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 2: So something we asked all our guests Mount Rushmore, Mount Rushmore,

965
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:51,760
Speaker 2: of of influence four people. You get four picks, okay,

966
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,760
Speaker 2: that have helped shape you, mold you into the man

967
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 2: you are today, the great man, the great man, a

968
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 2: man who what those four individuals be And it doesn't

969
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 2: have to.

970
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,280
Speaker 6: Just be related to football, just just in life.

971
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 3: Well, Mom's always at the top of Mount rushword for me.

972
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 3: My mom was, like I said, my mom had me

973
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 3: she was fifteen years old. She honestly could have. She

974
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 3: was one of thirteen children, So I really was like

975
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 3: the fourteen child in the house. And she really could have.

976
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 3: And she was the first person in my family to

977
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 3: go to go to college, had a full scholarship to college.

978
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 3: She really could have pawned me off on my grandparents

979
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 3: who were more willing to keep me and take care

980
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 3: of me while she went to school. My mom for

981
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 3: the school, she said, OJ's coming with me. Really me,

982
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 3: she said, OJ's coming with me. So the fact that

983
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 3: she when she went to school back then, you get pregnant,

984
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 3: they kick you out of school.

985
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:52,760
Speaker 1: What school?

986
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,760
Speaker 5: What school did she go to? She went to Ohio

987
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 5: Wesleyans Okay, yea, yeah, yeah.

988
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 1: And so she.

989
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 3: So she made sure that OJ was always with her,

990
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 3: you know, and so you know, she's always going to

991
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 3: be at the top of my Mount Rushmore. When I

992
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 3: went Hell, I was taking college courses at one and

993
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 3: a half years old, you know what I mean. So

994
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 3: I said, some of these people that think they're smart

995
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 3: and math, come see me, because I was taking them early.

996
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 3: And then we moved back to my hometown, and then

997
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 3: you know, she got a job in Cleveland, Ohio, and

998
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 3: you know, I said, Mom, I'm not going She said,

999
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 3: you know what, I'm gonna give you one year back

1000
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 3: down here and then you're coming up there with me.

1001
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 3: She could have went there. She's still young lady, you know,

1002
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 3: mid twenties, and she's like all right, because she just

1003
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 3: could have went to Cleveland and just kicked it.

1004
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: And she said, Nojay's coming with me.

1005
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 3: And so I moved to Cleveland reluctantly. And it was

1006
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 3: the best thing that ever happened to me. Man, you know,

1007
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:47,439
Speaker 3: it was the best move ever.

1008
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: Man.

1009
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 3: The town I grew up in was there's a bunch

1010
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 3: of guys that were going nowhere. She got me into this,

1011
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 3: you know, a great school, and then she moved me

1012
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 3: to a private school, which I hated. Again, another best

1013
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,919
Speaker 3: move she's ever made for me, you know. So she's

1014
00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 3: always gonna be number one on you know when it

1015
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 3: comes to my mouth rushmore man, it's uh, you know.

1016
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 3: And I lost my mom about fourteen years ago, and

1017
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 3: you know, there's not a day that goes by. You know,

1018
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 3: I got all my wrist that I don't think about it.

1019
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: And I love it. I love that. I love that. Yeah.

1020
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 3: And then then my uncle Homer, you know, like I

1021
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 3: grew up without my dad, but my uncle Homer, as

1022
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 3: you know, he was one of the fourteen siblings that

1023
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 3: we're talking about. You know, he's right behind my mom.

1024
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,399
Speaker 3: He taught me everything in sports and life about being

1025
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 3: a man. You know, everything every single sport I played

1026
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 3: growing up, Uncle Homer taught me everything about it, you know.

1027
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 3: So I was already ahead of the game. Whenever I

1028
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 3: got to any kind of coaches at any level, I

1029
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 3: was always just ahead of the game because of what

1030
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 3: Uncle Homer did. He played somebody pro ball, had a

1031
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 3: couple of coffee with the Browns.

1032
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: You know.

1033
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 3: He was just just a hell of an athlete, just

1034
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 3: a hell of a man. He's still he's still my guy,

1035
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 3: still in Columbus in Ohio.

1036
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 5: And he's Ohio State. Got too, man. They drive me crazy.

1037
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:00,720
Speaker 5: They ve me crazy.

1038
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 1: Man. My whole family's Ohio State. Still. I said, none

1039
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: of y'all went to Ohio State. I went to this

1040
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 1: day when y'all gonna jump ship.

1041
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 2: A whole bunch of family that in Ohio are the same.

1042
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the whole state.

1043
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: Run the whole state in life.

1044
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for sure, man, And uh you know those

1045
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 3: are those are my top two.

1046
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,399
Speaker 1: Man. Then it could be spread out for the rest. Man.

1047
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 3: You know, my best friends you know, they kind of

1048
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 3: handled the rest of my growing up man. Like I

1049
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 3: talked about the Kajana's, my boy Bo Brian O'Neil, my

1050
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 3: boy Eric Gudger, you all my brothers that I never had.

1051
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 3: You know, they kind of finished it off for me

1052
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 3: as influencers then, like I talked about a little bit too,

1053
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 3: you know, Joe Paterno, his influence from just you know,

1054
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 3: the boys to men thing was huge for us. You know,

1055
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 3: once I left Ohio to go to Penn State, I

1056
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 3: never went back to Ohio until, you know, just to

1057
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 3: see my mom every once in a while. But I

1058
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 3: stayed in school year round, you know, just taking classes,

1059
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 3: were working out, doing all that. And Joe was a

1060
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 3: big part of that, man, you know, from you know,

1061
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 3: keep my grades up to training to trying to hone

1062
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 3: my craft to try to get into the league.

1063
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 1: He was a huge part of all that. So I'd

1064
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: have to put him on there too.

1065
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 3: But you know, so I think that you know, my mom,

1066
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 3: my uncle, all my boys, and then probably Joe turn on.

1067
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: I love it.

1068
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 5: I meant you already do a great impression of Joe Paul.

1069
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 5: That was great, man, oj Man, Thanks Man, I really

1070
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 5: appreciate it.

1071
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: Man.

1072
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 5: You just don't know how big of a fan you know.

1073
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,280
Speaker 5: I know I said that earlier and I know how.

1074
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 2: But I just learned something about like we interviewed. We've

1075
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 2: interviewed a ton of players, a ton of former players.

1076
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 2: You might be the first that he was just like, yo,

1077
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:52,240
Speaker 2: I'm excited to So he's so excited. He you're making

1078
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 2: his day right now, you're making his day. We didn't

1079
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 2: interviewed all these He.

1080
00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 1: I was O J.

1081
00:45:58,600 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 6: Magnificent, big o J.

1082
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,919
Speaker 1: Yeah. I had never met you guys. Man, I've known

1083
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: you guys. Man.

1084
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 5: I just appreciate you guys having me on. Man, this

1085
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Speaker 5: is big time. It really is. Thank you, oh Man,

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Speaker 5: no doubt about it. Man. And another thing is how

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Speaker 5: much pride do you take still with the Miami Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: I see you rocking the gear, you got the shoes, like.

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Speaker 5: You know, anytime we have alumni that's still or able

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Speaker 5: to stick around their teams and you spent your whole

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Speaker 5: career here, and so how much pride do you take

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Speaker 5: in the Miami Dolphins. I know you've done a lot

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Speaker 5: of TV and some radio for them, and just sometimes

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Speaker 5: I just like to hear our veteran guys talk about

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Speaker 5: how much they represent and how much the NFL they

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Speaker 5: still try and stay involved with.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I am I'm definitely blessed to spend all

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Speaker 3: nine years here.

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Speaker 1: And you know, like I said, I'm from Ohio. I'm

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Speaker 1: not going back.

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Speaker 3: So I've been living down here since the day I

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Speaker 3: got drafted in April of ninety three. I yeah, yeah, so,

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Speaker 3: you know, and the Dolphins has been great to me. Man,

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Speaker 3: the community has been great to me. Mister Ross, our

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00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 3: owner has been great to us. We have an alumni

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Speaker 3: sweek that holds sixty the guys. You know that we

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Speaker 3: get every single game for fifty bucks. You know, you

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00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 3: get two tickets and you know, and you get a

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Speaker 3: parking pass, and you know another team in the league

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Speaker 3: does that. They really really take care of us down here,

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Speaker 3: you know, And it's like it's just amazing what this

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Speaker 3: community has been like for me. So I ride or

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Speaker 3: die with the Dolphins, man, you know, And it's been

1114
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Speaker 3: it's been a tough sled for.

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Speaker 1: A long time.

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Speaker 3: We haven't won to We haven't won a playoff game

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Speaker 3: since my last year, you know what I mean. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: So that's old one oh one. We haven't won a

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Speaker 3: playoff game since oh one, and it's just sad, bro,

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Speaker 3: it really is.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 3: But we still ride with them, man, because they ride

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Speaker 3: with us. They ride with the alumni, and I'm always

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Speaker 3: gonna ride with them.

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Speaker 1: I like that. I do too. Man.

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Speaker 5: Well, oj Man, thanks so much, Man for coming onto

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Speaker 5: the podcast. Man, I can't wait to share this episode

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Speaker 5: all of our viewers and fans.

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Speaker 1: Man. So I'm just thankful that the new gen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the new gen. This is for the new gen,

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00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 4: just for the new GM.

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Speaker 1: Yes, this is for my son and all the new gym.

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Speaker 6: OJ mcduffin is nine years yeah, all right, Man.

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Speaker 5: Well, thank you guys for always tuning in and listening

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Speaker 5: that follow button for sure, and you can also check

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Speaker 5: us out on the NFL page NFL's YouTube chap.

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Speaker 4: Yes, right, you got it, you got it. That was cool.

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Speaker 4: He keeps saying pages.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I try to stay away from that

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Speaker 1: word this time.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate y'all tuning in on Peanut that's Roman, that's Oja,

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Speaker 2: And this is the NFL Player's Second Act podcast, and

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Speaker 2: we out