1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Ketty, I'm Strong 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: and Jatati and he Armstrong and Hetty. 4 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 2: If confirmed, the former Independent White House contender would oversee 5 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 2: a one point seven trillion dollar budget, ninety thousand employees 6 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: and agencies including the FDA, CDC, NIH and Medicare and 7 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 2: Medicaid Services. Kennedy says his Make America Healthy Again pursuit 8 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 2: would prioritize nutrition and shift federal research away from infectious 9 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 2: disease towards chronic illness. 10 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 3: The first thing I've done every morning for the past 11 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 3: twenty years is to get on my knees and pray 12 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 3: to God that he would put me in a position 13 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,639 Speaker 3: and the chronic disease epidemic interesting. 14 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 4: That's RFK Junior is hearing arted yesterday and we're gonna 15 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 4: play with my lights and it continues today. 16 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: I don't want to take the fun out of this. 17 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 4: But my feeling on the whole thing in general is 18 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 4: if he gets approved, and he most likely is, if 19 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 4: he does anything super crazy, there will be a revolt, 20 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 4: including among Republicans, and they'll have to get somebody new. 21 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: That's what I suspect as well. 22 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 4: He's not going to declare no vaccines for schools, and 23 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 4: everybody else say, I guess we just have to go 24 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 4: along with it. That's not going to happen, right right, 25 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 4: And we could well, I mean, his reign could well 26 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 4: lead to a debate on a number of issues and 27 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 4: we come out at a better place. I'm not a 28 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 4: fan of the guy, but some of the Harem Scaram talk. 29 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 4: I mean, for instance, here in clip thirty two, Michael, 30 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 4: this is Jake Tapper's fair and balanced to lead on 31 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 4: the story. 32 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: Robert F. 33 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 5: Kennedy Junior, who's been spreading lies about vaccines for decades, 34 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 5: pressed on his reign of error. Luckily nobody heard that 35 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 5: because nobody watches CNN. 36 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I saw a club. 37 00:01:58,080 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 4: I should have had hands and grab it, but I 38 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 4: saw a pushback that RFK Junior had later in the day. Okay, 39 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 4: so here's three of my conspiracy theories that turned out 40 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 4: to be true. And he went through a number of 41 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 4: them that were things he had said that are now 42 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 4: adopted as true. That you could spread the COVID even 43 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 4: if you were vaxed. That was considered a conspiracy theory 44 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 4: for a long time. So do I think RFK Junior 45 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 4: has conspiracy theories that aren't true? Yes, he absolutely does. 46 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 4: But your own government, Jake Tapper, your side, spread all 47 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 4: kinds of stuff that was completely false, and they knew 48 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 4: it was false. 49 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: They weren't even just crackpots. 50 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 4: They were cynics who were saying the opposite of what 51 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 4: they knew to be true, and you gave him a 52 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 4: pass for it. 53 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: So give me a. 54 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 5: Break because the people were too stupid to handle the truth. 55 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:50,959 Speaker 5: The one aspect of JFK or RFK thing that I'm 56 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 5: troubled by, and I would like to discuss with somebody 57 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 5: who is an expert in this because I'm not, is 58 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 5: the fact that he believes one of the ways to 59 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 5: get real accountability out of the big pharma companies is 60 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 5: to sue the but Jesus out of them and to 61 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,959 Speaker 5: weaken the protections that they enjoy. There are a set 62 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 5: of laws that have to do with protecting the companies 63 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 5: for vaccine lawsuits, and then there's a federal fund to 64 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 5: pay damages. Because the perception was, or the decision was, 65 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 5: it's so important to vaccinate all kids against these awful 66 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 5: and some of them are just nightmares childhood diseases. 67 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 1: We can't ask. 68 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 5: The private companies to take on the ginormous risk of lawsuits, 69 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 5: and so the federal government is going to give them 70 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 5: a little protection and blah blah blahs, it's so important 71 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 5: to all of us. 72 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, same with the research. 73 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 4: Why would you spend all the money on research for 74 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 4: some vaccine for some new disease if you think you're 75 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 4: going to get the Bejesus suit out of you if 76 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 4: anything goes wrong, right, And. 77 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 5: They there is a point to that philosophy, there's absolutely 78 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 5: that's not crazy. 79 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: RFK is saying. 80 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 5: The way we bring the big pharma folks to heal 81 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 5: is in the style of say, the giant lawsuits against 82 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 5: the Sackler family and the oxy Conton and the rest 83 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 5: of it is through lawsuits, and so they're over protected. 84 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 5: Well wrinkle number two. RFK Junior makes scads of money. 85 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: On those losses. That's troubling. That's how he gets rich. 86 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, so conflict of interest, much as they used to 87 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 5: say a long time ago, and it was annoying then 88 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 5: and annoying. 89 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: Now anyway, does he needs scads of money? 90 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 4: He's a Kennedy don't they all just go home and 91 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 4: jump in a big pile of money like Scrooge McDuck. 92 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 5: I have no idea another outdated reference. I have no 93 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 5: idea what the finances of the arn't of the average Kennedy. 94 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 5: I don't know if they got fifty million dollars in 95 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 5: the bank, or if they're you know, like your your 96 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 5: classic rock star who didn't actually get make much money 97 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 5: and tours constantly because they have to pay their bills. 98 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't know anyway. One shocking revelation 99 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 5: from the RFK hearings was right here. Michael is thirty four. 100 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 1: Yeah. In terms of. 101 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 3: Addiction services, substance abuse services, I this is a priority 102 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 3: for me. It was a priority for me when I 103 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 3: was running for president. During my campaign, I was a 104 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 3: heroin addict for fourteen years. I've been forty two years 105 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 3: in recovery. I go to twelve seven meetings every day, 106 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 3: so I hear the stories every day. 107 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: Wow. A couple of interesting things there. 108 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 4: He does twelve step meetings every day after forty some years, 109 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 4: which is interesting. And he was a heroin addict for 110 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 4: a decade plus, almost a decade and a half. 111 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 6: Wow. 112 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: Presidential terms and half of the next. 113 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 4: Wow, man, if you got a loved one who's a 114 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 4: heroin addict for that long, you've given up on them 115 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 4: being alive at that point. Yeah, I gotta think you 116 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 4: think they're they're They're never coming back. I'm just going 117 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 4: to get a phone call someday. 118 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 5: And over there on the other side of wash d 119 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 5: see Pete Hagsith is saying, oh, and I got drunk twice. 120 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 4: Oh no, we have a report here that you once 121 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 4: got drunk at a bowling alley at a work function. 122 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 4: Arth K Junior was a heroin addict for fourteen years. 123 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: Wow, that's that is interesting. 124 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 5: And then there was quite the argument between Elizabeth warrenar 125 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 5: Just to go back to that before we move on. 126 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 5: There is something around that, for whatever reason, culturally that 127 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 5: if you're a if you're a drug addict, it's kind 128 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 5: of exotic and unique in a walk on the wild side. 129 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 5: But if you're very difficult, very difficult to handle jack 130 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 5: but all get But if. 131 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: You're drunk, it's just pathetic. You're a stupid loser. It 132 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: would be a drunk you're a stupid loser. Yes. 133 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 5: The heroin addict, on the other hand, it's highly addicted, 134 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 5: kind of cool when rock stars do it. 135 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: And he had back pain and took pills. Blah blah 136 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: blah blah. I'm not that all that stuff isn't true, 137 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: but you know, if you're drunk, you're. 138 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 5: Just kind of a weak, dumb loser. All right, But 139 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 5: enough about my hobbies. Elizabeth Warren K. 140 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: I saw an AI thing yesterday. 141 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 5: AI. 142 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 4: You know it's so good and believable as her. Yes, 143 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 4: they call on her and she goes oh. 144 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: In the AI phone. I don't think that happened. I'm 145 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: gonna have to that's not accurate. I saw a great 146 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: deal of hearing. She did not make an Indian war cry. 147 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 5: Let's let's get that dead out of the way, all right. Anyway, 148 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 5: she took a war hatchet in hand and went after 149 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 5: an r FK Junior. 150 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: This is what it sounded like. 151 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 7: And I'm asking you to commit right now that you 152 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 7: will not take a financial stake and every one of 153 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 7: those lawsuits so that what you do as secretary will 154 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 7: also benefit you financially down the line. 155 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 6: I'll comply with all the ethical gods. That's not the 156 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 6: question you and I. You have said you're asking me. 157 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 3: You're asking me not to vaccine prose companies. 158 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, you are, That's exactly what you're doing. 159 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 7: Hell, look, no one should be fooled here. I tear 160 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 7: of ahhs. Robert Kennedy will have the power to undercut 161 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 7: vaccines and vaccine manufacturing across our country. And for all 162 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 7: of his talk about follow the science and his promise 163 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 7: that he won't interfere with those of us who want 164 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 7: to vaccinate his kids, the bottom line is the same. 165 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 7: Kennedy can kill off access to vaccines and make millions 166 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 7: of dollars while. 167 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: He does it. 168 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 7: Kids might die, but Robert Kennedy can keep cashing in 169 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 7: the Senator. 170 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 3: I support vaccines, will I support the childhood schedule? 171 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 6: I will do that. The only thing I want is 172 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 6: good science, and that's it. 173 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 4: I also saw an AI thing where she used every 174 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 4: part of the buffalo there in the hearing room. Wow, 175 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 4: And I don't think that happened actually either a. 176 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 5: Bit of a distraction there, but to the substance of it, 177 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 5: I can't stand Elizabeth Warren. She's a liar and a 178 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 5: phony and a race baiter and the rest of it. 179 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 5: But there is a concern there. I'm doing this lawsuit 180 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 5: because it's the right thing. I get a referral fee, 181 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 5: and it's going to be paying me money. 182 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: Long into my old. 183 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 4: Well, let me read from Brit Hume, a Fox No 184 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 4: fan of Elizabeth Warren. The exchange devolved into a shouting match, 185 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 4: but Elizabeth Warren for once had a valid point and 186 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 4: asking Bobby K Junior to foreswear receiving money from the 187 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 4: trial law firm he's associated with. Her point was that 188 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 4: as HHS Secretary, he'd be in a position to influence 189 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 4: the outcome of lawsuits filed by that firm. Kennedy kept 190 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 4: saying she was demanding he not sued drug companies, but 191 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 4: that was not. 192 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: What she was saying. According to Brit Hume of Fox. 193 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 5: Right, I would agree that's the way I read it 194 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 5: too again and trust me, it's not comfortable being in 195 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 5: agreement with Liz Warren. 196 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 4: And then she jumped on her pony side saddle and 197 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 4: wrote out of there in the ais I saw, okay, 198 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 4: well excellent. And then what of the onesies? 199 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: Jack? 200 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 5: Another notable exchange between the always colorful bemitten socialist Bernie 201 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 5: Sanders an RFK Junior. 202 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: What about the onesies? 203 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 8: Now you're coming before this committee and you say you're 204 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 8: pro vaccine, just want to ask some questions. And yet 205 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 8: your organization is making money selling a child's product to 206 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 8: parents for twenty six bucks, which cast fundamental doubt on 207 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 8: the usefulness of vaccines. 208 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: Can you tell us now that you will, now that. 209 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 8: You are pro vaccine, that you're going to have your 210 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 8: organization take these products off the market? 211 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 3: Senator, I have no power over that organization, not you've 212 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 3: heard of it. 213 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 6: Resigned from the board that was just. 214 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 8: A few months ago. You founded that you certainly have 215 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 8: power you could make that. How you supportive of this? 216 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 8: I've had nothing to do with your supportive of these onesies? 217 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:02,119 Speaker 6: I'm supportive of vaccines. 218 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 8: Are you supportive of these this clothing which is militantly 219 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 8: anti vaccine? 220 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 6: I am supportive of vaccines. 221 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 3: Well, I want good science and I want to protect 222 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 3: But you will not tell. 223 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 8: The organization you founded not to continue selling that product. 224 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: Thank you, Chim. 225 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 4: That clearly will be part of the standards. That will 226 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 4: clearly be part of the clips of the year at 227 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 4: the end of the year. Are you supportive of these onesies? 228 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 4: And I think it's funny that even Bernard Sanders at 229 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 4: it is vancedage, UH realized that sounds silly. So the 230 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 4: second time he said it, he changed He changed it too. 231 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 4: Are you supportive of these clothing items? Because me saying 232 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 4: are you supportive of these onesies sounds ridiculous. 233 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:44,119 Speaker 1: These onesies? 234 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 9: Why are they all white? Everybody knows that baby will 235 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 9: spit up. They shouldn't be white. Do you support white onesies? 236 00:11:53,400 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 9: The onesies say, unvexed, unafraid or no vax, No problem? 237 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: Why onesies? Whose idea was this? How do you get 238 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: both legs in there? 239 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 4: I get one legging, then the other leg is squirmling 240 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 4: around and I'm kicking it in there. I remember doing 241 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 4: that in the middle of the night. 242 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: What the heck? Choice like wrestling an octopus? Anyway? Where 243 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: were we? 244 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 5: Ah r FK Junior. That's right, So we'll have to 245 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 5: see the way the Senate votes. There are aspects of 246 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 5: his act that troubled me a great deal. I got 247 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 5: to believe you could find somebody to advocate the things 248 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 5: he advocates who doesn't have those gigantic conflicts of interest. 249 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 1: But I don't know who that person is. 250 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 4: Though true, But like Elon, for whatever reason, you need 251 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 4: the lightning rod to get the conversation going. Somebody Elon 252 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 4: says stuff and we have the conversation that we wouldn't 253 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 4: if somebody else said it. And I think the same 254 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 4: thing with RK Jr. I don't like that it works 255 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 4: that way, but it seems to be true. 256 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, I if certain of Trump's nominees had or will 257 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 5: get the job, I would be really worried. I think 258 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 5: it's a terrible mistake. With RFK Junior, I think, yeah, 259 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 5: I better keep an eye on this one. But let's 260 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 5: see how it goes. Jay. 261 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 4: I had a little thing I wanted to say about 262 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 4: the confirmation hearings, is just in general, but I'll do 263 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 4: it later because they're going on again today with several 264 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 4: other controversial nominees and a whole bunch of other stuff. 265 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 4: So hope you can stick around sport of all these onesiesty, 266 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:21,719 Speaker 4: I didn't. 267 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 8: Do it on. 268 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 4: Bus driver one apparently didn't talk UNTI last eight and 269 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 4: the students screaming in the background. 270 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: We were scaring stop the bus stop, the bus stop 271 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 1: the bus. 272 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 8: I was scared because he didn't stop at any of 273 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 8: the first few stops, and I was scared that the 274 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 8: other kids weren't going to get to go home. 275 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: You were just like getting mad over little stuff. 276 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 4: He was getting mad over little stuff. That's the kids 277 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 4: in a nine one one call? Who called nine one one? 278 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 4: Did one of the kids called nine one one as 279 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 4: a school bus seventy two year old bus driver arrested 280 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 4: for driving drunk with the kids in the bus. 281 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 5: That's yes, they called nine one one because the drunk 282 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 5: ass bus driver wouldn't stop at any of the stop. 283 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 5: That's a pretty old bus driver to start with. Ah, 284 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 5: and you're getting up there, I mean twenty seven two year. 285 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 4: Olds and can drive fine, but they getting pretty up 286 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 4: there in terms of reaction time and all that sort 287 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 4: of stuff. Uh, and drunk and so you just wouldn't 288 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 4: stop at the stops. You had to be he had 289 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 4: to be really drunk, ragging it to kids and the 290 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 4: rest of it. And just yeah, he wasn't just I'm 291 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 4: gonna have a quick one because I can't handle the 292 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 4: nan and. 293 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: The kids today. He was hammered. 294 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, reminds me of when I riad the school bus 295 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 4: every single day for uh, like my entire school career 296 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 4: both ways, and uh, we had a gladys of telling. 297 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: The story from way back and what cars the harp cell, 298 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: thank you Gladys. Gladys went to school in a horse 299 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: drawn carriage, just like my dad. 300 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 10: Uh. 301 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 4: One time we had a school bus driver, like for 302 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 4: one day, maybe two, and he was like Otto. 303 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: From the Simpsons. I'm Otto, and I loved to get Blotto. 304 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 4: But there was this one like in a road and 305 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 4: he would hit it really fashioned. We'd all sit in 306 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 4: the back of the it's coming up and we'd all 307 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 4: moved to the back seat of course, no seatbelts, and 308 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 4: he sit in the back and he'd. 309 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: Hit it and we'd all fly like three feet in 310 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: the air. 311 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 4: Wow. We thought it was hilarious. But he was the 312 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 4: only bus driver for a couple of days. I think 313 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 4: I wonder if he was drunk, he might have been well. 314 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 5: And that speaks to a certain attitude about life, doesn't it. 315 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 5: Doing that that you know, might not square with being 316 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 5: the classic school bus driver. 317 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 318 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 4: Man, the school bus was so like Lord of the 319 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 4: Flies though, And I don't actually know if I think 320 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 4: that is better for me or it's I don't know, 321 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 4: but it was definitely Lord of the Flies. 322 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you had you had to learn to navigate. 323 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 4: Lots of different situations because it was it could be 324 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 4: scary and uh and very intimidating. 325 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, towards the back of the bus and nobody cared. 326 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: That's just the way it was. I know. 327 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 4: Christopher Hitchins in his memoir he was talking about how 328 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 4: there was so much bullying and beatings from the teachers 329 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 4: and everything like that when he went to private school 330 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 4: as a kid in England, and it's sexual assault, sexual assault, 331 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 4: And in his book he says he thinks that society 332 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 4: was better when they had some of that. 333 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: He hated it at the time. 334 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 4: I don't know that I'm willing to go there, but 335 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 4: I can kind of see the point, can kind of 336 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 4: see where you're going with that. 337 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a grim assessment and a difficult conversation to have, 338 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 5: but if it leads to a further discussion of the 339 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 5: nature of raising kids and the way we raise them 340 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 5: and what makes what sort of childhood makes for a strong, 341 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 5: resilient adult. 342 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: I'm not pro rape, certainly no, and I. 343 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 5: Despise bullying, but it's a conversation worth having. 344 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty darmn interesting. 345 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 4: Actually, we have some more stuff on the hearings, Tulsa 346 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 4: Gabbard being grilled and the guy who might run the 347 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 4: FBI being grilled today, and so we'll get to some 348 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 4: of that as it a folds throughout. 349 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 5: Cash Battel, as he's known among friends. Yeah, the whole 350 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 5: Hitchins thing. Sometimes a terrible idea is just one notch 351 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 5: off of a very very good idea. So we can't 352 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 5: be afraid to have these discussions Armstrong and Getty. My 353 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 5: colleagues have already asked your future boss, mister BONDI many 354 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 5: questions about this. 355 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: I think it's easy to see these attacks for what 356 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: they are. Guilt by association. Are you a follower or 357 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: promoter of q Andon? No, Senator. 358 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 10: In fact, I have publicly, including in the interviews provided 359 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 10: to this committee, rejected outright QAnon baseless conspiracy theories or 360 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 10: any other baseless conspiracy theories. They must be addressed head 361 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 10: on with the truth, and I will continue to do that, 362 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 10: and I will always continue to support Americans who support 363 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 10: law enforcement, our military, and want to secure border. 364 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: That's Cash Battel being grilled to by the senators. They're 365 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 1: advising consent role so he can run the FBI. Uh. 366 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 4: That was a Republican asking that question, Chuck Grassley, So 367 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 4: he was asking the questions. So Cash Grassley, who went 368 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 4: to to elementary school with Abraham Lincoln and is so 369 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 4: old he didn't realize mister Bondie is clearly miss Bondie, 370 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 4: and she's good at being missed Bondie. 371 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: I'd say yauser. 372 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 4: But Chuck Grassley, a Republican, was asking me that question 373 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 4: to give him the chance to get out the whole 374 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 4: I'm not quan on thing right off the bat as 375 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 4: opposed to a Democrat answering asking it where he'd say, ah. 376 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: You caught me. 377 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 4: I was gonna try to keep that chicke of but 378 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 4: since you ask me, I gotta say yes, I am, 379 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 4: and I'm proud of it, you know, like you're gonna 380 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 4: catch somebody on that. But I was watching the hearing 381 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 4: a little bit and this cash Betel dude is a 382 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 4: brown person, and what's his background Indian or whatever it is? 383 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: Indian? 384 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 4: And I was just thinking how if he was a Democrat, 385 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 4: the only thing we would need to be talking about 386 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 4: around this whole nomination would be it'd be the first 387 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 4: person of color to lead the FBI, and any criticism 388 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 4: of him, no matter how wacky he was on any issue, 389 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:11,360 Speaker 4: any criticism would be Republicans who don't like, who are 390 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 4: othering him, who don't like the idea of brown people 391 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 4: being in charge? 392 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 5: Would be the only thing one hundred percent correct. That's right, 393 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 5: And you know it's funny. Hadn't even occurred to me. 394 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,719 Speaker 5: The hell do I care? If he's Indian American are 395 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 5: the agents? 396 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: It makes no difference to me at all. 397 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 5: But if you were a Democrat, gosh that the Braezes 398 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 5: have changed on that. 399 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 4: If you were a Democrat and controversial at all, like 400 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 4: cashpatel is, it would be you're racist. You just can't 401 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 4: handle brown people taking over. Here's all I need to 402 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 4: know about Cash Battel. And if I turn out to 403 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 4: be wrong, I will manfully admit it. Trey Gouty says 404 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 4: he would be a terrific choice. Yeah, and I respect 405 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 4: the hell out of Trey Gouty. That's pretty good, pretty 406 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 4: good recommendation right there. 407 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 5: So a completely different topic, although related in that the 408 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:05,439 Speaker 5: craft which has now been cut cut the crap of 409 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 5: the recent years of the Biden administration and the wolf 410 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 5: crowd running things included such nonsense as you know, if 411 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 5: somebody's tanner than me and somebody criticizes them, it's clearly racism. 412 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 5: And then this, And I'm going to refer again to 413 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 5: a brilliant essay I mentioned the other day by Martin Gourrie. 414 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 5: He's writing in the Free Press, but he's talking about 415 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 5: the campaign against misinformation, disinformation, censorship, aggressive censorship during the 416 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 5: Biden administration. And he makes a point that I think 417 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:41,479 Speaker 5: is worth like etching writing down in ink, if not 418 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 5: etching into granite. 419 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: And he does so quite eloquently. 420 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 5: He lists a bunch of questions that were asked during 421 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 5: the COVID thing when each. 422 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: And every one of the answers to them. 423 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 5: And I won't go through the list, but it had 424 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 5: to do with the vaccines and closing the schools and 425 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 5: the stuff we've just cause many times. And the only 426 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 5: acceptable answer to every single one of those questions was yes. 427 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 5: But the administration and by proxy the social media, insisted 428 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 5: that you say no, and you must say no, and 429 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 5: you will be punished if you don't. And he goes 430 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 5: into not only the Biden administration, but do you remember 431 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 5: Jacinda Arderne, the rather attractive Prime Minister of New Zealand 432 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 5: during the pandemic. She was zealous about lockdowns and government policy. 433 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 5: She was like the Gretchen whitmer down under. But anyway, 434 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 5: as the essayist points out, she said out loud what 435 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 5: Biden's puppeteers only whispered behind the scenes. She said, quote, 436 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 5: we will continue to be your single source of truth. 437 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 5: Unless you hear it from us, it is not the truth. 438 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 5: And in the mattern manner of Ardern, the Biden administration 439 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 5: gave itself a divine attribute. Similarly, it was the single 440 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 5: source of truth and in its many error, as it proclaimed, 441 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 5: were the misperceptions of a diluted public. 442 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 1: And the debate was wh at an end. 443 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 5: Disgracefully, most of the NEWSVDA media went along with it. 444 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 5: They defended, they parroted. Academia went along, as did most corporations. 445 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 5: Many mainstream churches went along, placing a secular word of 446 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 5: a doddering president above their own received wisdom. The open 447 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 5: society was closed for repairs until further notice. And here's 448 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 5: the part that needs to be etched into granite. The 449 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 5: greatest danger in a closed system that shuts off debate 450 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 5: is an error, but the impossibility of correcting error, of 451 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 5: ever arriving at the truth. 452 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: And it goes into a fair amount of detail. 453 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 5: But the idea is we can absolutely deal with people 454 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 5: who are wrong or have bad ideas existed. We've been 455 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 5: dealing with that since the dawn of mans. They had 456 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 5: no starts, like the Almighty had no star. But it 457 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 5: will know no end people being wrong or misguided. But 458 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 5: the one thing we can't take is restricting people from 459 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 5: saying out loud I think you're wrong. That's the one 460 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 5: sin we must never ever commit, no matter how good 461 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 5: the excuse is. 462 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,199 Speaker 4: Well, having lived through it, which I didn't think I 463 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 4: ever would in my life, but having lived through it, 464 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 4: it was something to see how quickly it it could 465 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 4: go away, like really quickly, and how quickly people went 466 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 4: along with it. Oh, yeah, that's the way it goes away. 467 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 4: You have enough people who are out of being frightened. 468 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 3: I guess. 469 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: So I'm super in Just gonna. 470 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 5: Say it's the desire for safety, which is incredibly powerful. 471 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: And what is my side saying? 472 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, So I'm super into civilizations falling apart through history. 473 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 4: It's just something I'm really interested in. And I because 474 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 4: I think there's a chance I'm living through it or 475 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 4: may live through it in my lifetime, and I don't know, 476 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 4: I just kind of want to have a heads up 477 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 4: but like I'm currently reading this book becas I've mention 478 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 4: many times about France eighteen seventy, when they're many times 479 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 4: in France their civilization has falled apart, fallen apart, where 480 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 4: that just they go nutso and it's a lot like 481 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 4: what we did. 482 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: During COVID, where. 483 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,679 Speaker 4: You pick a side and your side can do no 484 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 4: wrong and you're completely immune to logic for a while, 485 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 4: and all kinds of things go out the window, and 486 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 4: it's just it's something to see that it has happened 487 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 4: so many times throughout history. That's why dudes are into 488 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 4: the fall of the Roman Republic, like how how does 489 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 4: something that was working go away? 490 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: And it's just troublingly easy. 491 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 5: As I've said many times, it was almost worth it 492 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 5: to live through it. Yeah, to see I mean, how 493 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 5: right mister Merrill who's writing this, or Thomas Jefferson was, 494 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 5: for instance, I'm about to quote Jefferson because Merril writes 495 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 5: about how in seventeen ninety eight, and Jack you've pointed 496 00:24:55,119 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 5: out and it's incredibly troubling and almost bitterly amusing because 497 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 5: it shows how human beings. 498 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 1: Are, the very founding generation. 499 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 5: Themselves past the Sedition Act President John Adams arm twisted 500 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 5: Congress into enacting this Edition Act, which is essentially through 501 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 5: citizens in jail for slandering the federal government, which is 502 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 5: to say bad mouthing him or you know, criticizing him. 503 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 5: Now Adams won or two years later in eighteen hundred, 504 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 5: and this is how he put it in his first 505 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 5: inaugural address. Quote, if there be any among us who 506 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 5: would wish to dissolve this union or to change its 507 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 5: republican form, let them stand undisturbed as monuments of the 508 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 5: safety with which error of opinion may be tolerated, where 509 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 5: reason is left free to combat it. The idea, it's 510 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 5: a restatement of one of his great guiding principles that 511 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 5: I'd much rather attend to the problems of too much 512 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 5: liberty than too little. 513 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 4: Yeah well, yeah, I guess that proves a point right there. 514 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 4: And if the founding generation could get that off track 515 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 4: that fast with free speech, then you can't blame the 516 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 4: current times because it's just it's it's easy to fall for. 517 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 518 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 4: Well, in this circumstance, you can't have free speech is 519 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:18,719 Speaker 4: always the thing. We've got a unique circumstance COVID. You know, uh, 520 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 4: we're just putting together the country and we got you know, 521 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 4: we got to worry about to England and France and everybody. 522 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 4: So now is not a time for people saying whatever 523 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 4: they want. There's always some reason why now is a 524 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 4: specifically unique time. 525 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: Just to join us. 526 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 5: Once you in the army of the lovers of liberty 527 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 5: in that whenever an excuse is given for censorship because 528 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 5: they're wrong or misguided or dangerous, the reply is, are 529 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 5: we free to say that that they're wrong and misguided 530 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 5: and dangerous? 531 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: Yes, well then we're good, We're fine. 532 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, reading this stuff about France or lots of different places, 533 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 4: popularism and mob ment is so frightening and unwieldy and 534 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 4: just completely unpredictable and happens out of nowhere, and once 535 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 4: it gets going, stopping it is incredibly hard. 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Wow. 568 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 4: Cash Pattel just said something really really interesting around the 569 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 4: J six pardonings and Telsea Gabbart is being grilled about 570 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 4: being the person who runs well the whole intelligence operation, 571 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 4: and then just hearings in general. I got something I 572 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 4: heard the other day I thought was really interesting and 573 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 4: all the stuff. I hope you can stick around Armstrong 574 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 4: and Getty. 575 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 10: Well, guys, Valentine's Day is just around the corner. 576 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: I saw an ad today that really caught my eye. 577 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: Take a look at this after. 578 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 11: This Valentine's Day, if you're planning to ask her that 579 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 11: very special question, make sure she knows you really care 580 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 11: by giving her something more valuable than all the diamonds 581 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 11: in the world, a single egg speckled farm's best because 582 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 11: she deserves. 583 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 5: It, very expensive eggs. 584 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 6: I get it. 585 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 4: I think you am I wrong, Katie. I think proposing 586 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 4: on Valentine's Day, most women would go you no. 587 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: Yeh, don't do it, don't do it? Not cool. 588 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, New Year's Eve, Valentine's for whatever reason, those are 589 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 4: off limits. 590 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm troubled by the performative nature of everything in 591 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 5: the modern world. You've got to have a giant performative engagement. 592 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 5: You've got to have a giant performative wedding. Well, somebody's 593 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 5: got to have their phone out and you have to 594 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 5: post it. Certainly, Well, you've got to have a giant 595 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 5: performative gender reveal. You've got to have a giant performative 596 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 5: here's me at the art museum, whatever happened to go 597 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 5: and place us and doing stuff exactly. 598 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: I'm making a TV production of it now. 599 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 4: Valentine Day this year is on a Friday, So forget 600 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 4: going out to eat. I remember one time, many many 601 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 4: years ago, only once in my life, that I try 602 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 4: to go out to eat. 603 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: On Valentine's Day, and it was awful, just awful. 604 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 4: I mean, if you like standing in a shoulder to 605 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 4: shoulder lobby of whatever restaurant for a half an hour 606 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 4: before you even get to your reservation in a very 607 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 4: crowded restaurant, go ahead. But oh, it's on a Friday 608 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 4: night this year. But here's the good news. Calendar wise, 609 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 4: Groundhog Day is Sunday. We don't have to deal with it. 610 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 4: This year, we missed out on Groundhog Day. Thank god, 611 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 4: America's stupidest day, clearly. 612 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: Boy, big worry of mine. 613 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 4: Well, every year we get a the CBS Early Show, 614 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 4: they're gonna have the The Today Show, They're gonna be 615 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 4: there in punk Satani, and they're gonna have the damn Rodent. 616 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 4: Just please, we're all grown ups there, all right, We're 617 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 4: not six years old exactly. 618 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: You're taking your weather forecast from a rodent? What else 619 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: are you doing? Eating your own fingernails? 620 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 4: I got a question that we're going to talk about 621 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 4: the hearings. Our three have some serious things to say 622 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 4: about that. Cash Ptel just said, and this is a 623 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 4: pretty big deal. He's the guy up for a FBI 624 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 4: director that a lot of people think it way too trumpy, 625 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 4: and he's just he's going to do Trump's bidding and 626 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 4: retribution and jail the people who don't like Trump and 627 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 4: that sort of thing. Cash Ptel said about the j 628 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 4: six pardon commutations. I do not agree with the commutation 629 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 4: of any sentence of anyone who committed violence against law 630 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 4: enforcement on January seven, breaking with his bulls. That's a 631 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 4: pretty big break. That's some independence right there. Yeah, I'd 632 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 4: say so, And he's right. Tulsea Gabbard, attractive Hawaiian woman 633 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 4: wants to be the d and I Director of National Intelligence. Uh, 634 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 4: she's wearing her white outfit that she's kind of famous for. 635 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 4: She's always got that gray streak. 636 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: In her hair. 637 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 4: And I don't know, maybe you know this, Katie, I 638 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 4: don't know, is that a is that an? Is she 639 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 4: just born that way where she's got dark hair and 640 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 4: but one streak of gray? Does she die it that way? 641 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 4: Because I know plenty of women who do the one 642 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 4: blue one. You know, he had a red streak or 643 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 4: a blue streak or whatever. 644 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 5: For the record, we're talking about the Director of National Intelligence, 645 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 5: And this is Jack's question. 646 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: Correct. Yeah, I don't know. Is an optional? I don't 647 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: know if she was. I know that that is a 648 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: condition people are born with. But the gray hair thing. 649 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 4: Is really in right now, the women letting it go gray, 650 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,479 Speaker 4: letting it go gray, or dying at gray before it 651 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 4: goes gray. 652 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: It's it. Oh yeah, friend of mine just went gray 653 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: or silver as she called it, at what age you mean? Right? Yes, 654 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: she's howled thirty nine or forty thirty nine, going early gray. Okay, 655 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: maybe that'll become a thing. She spotted a few and said, 656 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: I'm going to embrace it. 657 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 4: You know, when I run into a woman who's decided 658 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 4: to fully embrace the gray like men generally do, am 659 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 4: I shocked. 660 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: But you don't see that very often. 661 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 4: But Tulsa's just goes with the streak like a skunk stripe. 662 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 4: And I just wondered if that's justly or is that 663 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 4: now you think it's. 664 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 5: That's not the most flattering way to describe it. Yeah, 665 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 5: I suspect that that's just the way her hair grows. 666 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 5: I'm a little more concerned about her affection for the 667 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 5: Kremlin and her whack adodal half a cult spiritual beliefs 668 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 5: in their pyramid schemes, and her affection for Edward Snowden, 669 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 5: who did a hell of a lot more than simply 670 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 5: exposed some of the NSA's sins. On the other hand, 671 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 5: her hair color is fascinating and worthy of inquiry. 672 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 1: Yes, Katie, so she's actually commented on it. 673 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 2: I started to gray in that spot during my first 674 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 2: deployment to Iraq, so I've chosen to keep it as 675 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 2: a daily reminder of the terrible. 676 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:13,959 Speaker 1: Cost of war. 677 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 5: Awesome answer. That's a cool answer, That is very cool. 678 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:18,800 Speaker 5: I still think she's a crackpot. 679 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 4: Okay, well, I'll tell you what Joe is doing, because 680 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 4: she said in her opening statement before I close, I 681 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 4: want to warn the American people watching at home, you 682 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 4: will hear lies and smears like you just said from 683 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 4: Joe Getty that challenge my loyalty and love of our country. 684 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 4: Those who oppose my nomination imply I'm loyal to something 685 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 4: or someone other than. 686 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: God, said the trader. 687 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,359 Speaker 4: So Joe's part of the smear lizing, I guess said 688 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 4: she's claiming. 689 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 5: As I said in some of the fever pitch run 690 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 5: up to the hearings during the transition period. 691 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 1: I'm glad they have hearings. I got an idea. 692 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 5: How about we have the Senate advice and consent on 693 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 5: the president's appointees and we'll take a good, solid look 694 00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 5: at all this stuff. I'm very content with this process. 695 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 5: And if she gets through it and all the Republicans 696 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 5: say for a job this critical, If all the Republicans say, 697 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,359 Speaker 5: you know what, no, it seems that she's a good gal, 698 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:10,439 Speaker 5: and let's give her. 699 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: The job, man, all right with? 700 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 4: I want to talk about the whole process because I 701 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 4: heard a good podcast about it the other day, whether 702 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 4: it's outlived its uselessness. You know, most of our nation's history, 703 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 4: we didn't do this, even though it's in the constitution, 704 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,399 Speaker 4: we didn't do it this way, at least partially because 705 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 4: there were no TV cameras. There is no benefit to 706 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 4: grand standing alone in a room like there is now. 707 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 4: But senators would do a little research on their own 708 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 4: and then and they you know, they would, they would 709 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 4: they they would vote one way or another, or write 710 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 4: a letter asking a question or whatever. That'd be their 711 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 4: advice and consent. Now we do this show, and there's 712 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 4: only been one time, like in the last forty years 713 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 4: that anything has ever come out of one of these 714 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 4: hearings that anybody thought actually made a difference in terms 715 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 4: of how people were already going to vote. See, you 716 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 4: gotta wonder if it's actually doing anything. But the process 717 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 4: does lead to all the media stuff that happens leading 718 00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 4: up to it, and a number of people have been 719 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 4: out of the nomination by the media scrutiny before the hearing. 720 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 4: So maybe that's the real advice and consents going on. 721 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 4: Digging into Matt Gates before he even gets to the hearing, 722 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:11,359 Speaker 4: and he, you know, he pulls his name. 723 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 6: Oh. 724 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 5: Absolutely, it reminds me of you know, well, I don't 725 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,360 Speaker 5: have time to explain the metaphor, but I think it's very, 726 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 5: very useful. 727 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:19,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting. 728 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 4: If you miss a segment, get the podcast Armstrong and 729 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 4: Getty on demand 730 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 6: Armstrong and Getty