1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to the second hour of the Clay 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton Show, and we are continuing with 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 1: our last week of live shows for the year. 4 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 2: Very very much want to say, while I can, thank 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 2: you to all of you for helping us have such 6 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 2: a great year, or you are the reason. 7 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 3: We had such a great year on the program. I 8 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 3: know we're still in the news cycle. 9 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 2: We'll be getting into all this in a second, but 10 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 2: since I only have you for today and then Clay 11 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 2: is going to be throwing a Christmas keg party for 12 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 2: you for the next couple of days afterwards, We've had 13 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 2: a great, really, honestly a great year on this show. 14 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 3: It has been. 15 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 2: An honor to be able to spend time with you 16 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 2: all every day. For y'all, as I'm allowed to say 17 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 2: now because so many of you are Southerners and you've 18 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 2: given me permission. 19 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 4: Well you married a Southerner, so I think that's helped 20 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 4: us your ability to embrace the word y'all. 21 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 2: That's true, and so we just want to say thank 22 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 2: you to all of you. Honestly, it's been a phenomenally 23 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 2: You're our team in New York City is the absolute best. 24 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 3: Our audience is the absolute best. 25 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 2: And we all hope that we're doing a great job 26 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 2: and that Rush is smiling down on us from heaven 27 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 2: thinking that we're carrying on the legacy and holding the 28 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 2: torch as best as we can. 29 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 3: And I can promise you we do that absolutely every 30 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 3: single day. 31 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 4: And to build on that which is well said in 32 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 4: this will be when we come back in January together, 33 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 4: it'll be we're working on the fifth year. We added 34 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 4: eighty six stations this year. We have added, thanks to 35 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 4: you guys, over two hundred affiliate stations since we launched 36 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 4: this show in June of twenty twenty one. So that's 37 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 4: a testament to a lot of work going on behind 38 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 4: the scenes. I think we were around three fifty when 39 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 4: we launched ISH and now I know we are over 40 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 4: five hundred and fifty and added an absolute ton of 41 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 4: stations this year, and many of you are listening to 42 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 4: us all over the country on stations that work with 43 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 4: us in June of twenty twenty one, So thanks to 44 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 4: all those stations out there. Obviously, we want to be 45 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 4: on as many platforms as possible everywhere. Clay and Buck 46 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 4: podcast Network is rolling and we're going to have more 47 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 4: and more video for you as many people out there. 48 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 4: I never really really believe this is where we were headed, Buck, 49 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 4: but a lot of people consume audio on video. In fact, 50 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 4: it's more popular to consume audio on video now often 51 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 4: than it is just playing audio, particularly the younger you are. 52 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,839 Speaker 4: So we're going to be adding in more and more 53 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 4: video attributes of this program. It's a big part of 54 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 4: the twenty twenty six plans. So we would like for 55 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 4: you to be out there subscribing to us on all 56 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 4: those platforms, including YouTube, because there's going to be a 57 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 4: lot more video coming for all of you. 58 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 2: And I will say this, and this is definitely self serving, 59 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 2: but also one hundred percent true when any of you 60 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 2: come up and see me. Was jogging Clay yesterday who 61 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 2: listens to the show and stopped his jog for a 62 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 2: minute to come alongside me to chat a little bit. 63 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 2: Some ideas that I felt bats like I'm interrupting your job. 64 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 2: It's like, wellah, right, Buck Sexton, I got it. But 65 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 2: we always appreciate whenever you see any of us, and 66 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 2: you always should feel like you can come up and 67 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 2: talk to us and we feel like we know you, 68 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 2: and you feel like you know us. Because you do, 69 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 2: because you spend so much time with us over the 70 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 2: course of the year, and some of you even a 71 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,679 Speaker 2: couple of hours, two or three hours a day when 72 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 2: you have the time. I would also say that whenever 73 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 2: we meet somebody who listens to this show, I truly 74 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 2: immediately this little thing in my brain goes, oh, you're 75 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 2: one of the good, smart conservatives who doesn't waste his 76 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 2: time with nonsense. So I'm just saying that is honestly 77 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 2: what I think. So I think it is to your 78 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 2: tremendous credit to all of you that with I know 79 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 2: there's so much noise out there. There's so much stuff 80 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 2: that is online, in particular these days, and there's a 81 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 2: lot of sort of petty nonsense and people getting crazy 82 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 2: and getting a little reckless. And you stay with us 83 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 2: here and you stay with the mission, and we greatly 84 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 2: appreciate that. So I wanted to say thank you. And 85 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,119 Speaker 2: I do have a high opinion of each and every 86 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 2: one of you who listens to the show. So that 87 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 2: is from a bottom of the heart. All right, now 88 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 2: we can do some news you mentioned Mom, Donnie. Now 89 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you something. There are people who are 90 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 2: claiming now Clay that since Mom Donnie came into New York, 91 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 2: or rather since he won the election he becomes mayor 92 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 2: of January one, I believe since he won that election, 93 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 2: there have actually been some people moving to New York 94 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 2: to experience Mom Donnism. There has not been the flood 95 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 2: of residents to or new residents to Florida that even 96 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 2: some realtor friends of mine were expecting. People tested they 97 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 2: want to know that the lifeboat is there. They did 98 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 2: not get into the lifeboat, though overwhelmingly I have not. 99 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 2: By the way, if you happen to be somebody who 100 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 2: has left New York because of Mom Donnie and moved anywhere, 101 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 2: let us know. 102 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 3: The numbers show this is is a very small group. 103 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 4: I will say that I think most of those people, 104 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 4: if they leave Buck, they're gonna let Mom Donnie try 105 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 4: it out. Most people have kids, they have grandkids. Moving 106 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 4: around Christmas is hard to do. So I think you'll 107 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 4: see if people are gonna flee Mom Donnie's air in 108 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 4: New York, it will happen in the spring and summer. 109 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 4: So that's when I'm actually curious to see whether or 110 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,799 Speaker 4: not there will be any sort of mass movement because 111 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 4: you'll have a few months he gets inaugurated in January, 112 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 4: you'll have a few months to see how the process 113 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 4: of Mom Donnie is going, and then people's school years 114 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 4: get out and then they start to move. We'll play 115 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 4: the Mom Donni. By the way, new videos being released 116 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 4: now as we speak of a person of interest leading 117 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 4: the news on Fox News, leading the news on MSNBC 118 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 4: right now in that Brown University shooting. 119 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 3: So a little bit better visualization. 120 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 4: We'll try to share some of those videos from the 121 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 4: Clay and Buck account for any of you out there 122 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 4: that may be in that area or just trying to 123 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 4: figure out who that person of interest is. But you 124 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 4: were mentioning Mom Donnie, and I tease this buck. Mom 125 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 4: Donnie weighed in on how he thinks free buses are 126 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 4: actually going to make there be less issues on public transportation, 127 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 4: and it's a heck of a whopper that he told here. 128 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 5: Listen, we made five bus routes free in New York City. 129 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 5: When we made those bus routes free, after a year, 130 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 5: assaults on bus drivers dropped by thirty eight point nine 131 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 5: percent on the bus driver. With the bus drivers because 132 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 5: unlike the train, the act of fare collection on the 133 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 5: bus happens on the bus. It's the and bus drivers 134 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 5: and unions have shared anecdotally that about fifty percent of 135 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 5: assaults happen around the fair box. So when you eliminate 136 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 5: the fair you make for a safer experience for the 137 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 5: bus driver for everyone. 138 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 2: Can I can I take mom donnyism to its logical 139 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 2: conclusion here, you know where there can be scuffles in 140 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 2: drug stores and supermarkets and things like that by the 141 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 2: front door with security when people steal stuff. So you 142 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 2: know what we could do, Clay to eliminate scuffles with security. 143 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 2: Just make it legal for people to steal stuff. There 144 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 2: we go. That's another approach to this, right, just say 145 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 2: you know what, you can take whatever you want. 146 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 3: Now. 147 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 2: I understand public service, public transportation, they can change the 148 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 2: fee schedule. 149 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 3: But my point here is you are just. 150 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 2: Rewarding bad behavior and thinking that that's going to stop 151 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 2: the bad behavior. It's just not true. This is a 152 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 2: really stupid idea. And also he does not have the 153 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 2: funding for it, but he's going to stay with this. 154 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 2: I write, did you ever ride public buses very much? 155 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 2: When I've done a ton of subway in my life. 156 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 2: I mean, I was a real subway guy. For a 157 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 2: long time, I have done very little. The New York 158 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 2: City bus is a is a humbling and often depressing 159 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 2: experience void the bus we didn't have. 160 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 3: We don't have a subway in Nashville. 161 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 4: So as a kid and we did not have I 162 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 4: went to a public school in Nashville, but there were 163 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 4: no public school buses for my school from seven to 164 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 4: twelfth grade. Uh, Martin Luther King was a school downtown Nashville. 165 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 4: So if you rode the bus, you rode the city bus. 166 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 4: So when school got out, a lot of us kids 167 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 4: would go and we would get on the city bus 168 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 4: and we would ride the city bus all over the 169 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 4: you know city. 170 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 3: And it's I don't know. 171 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 4: I look back now and I'm like, man, I was 172 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 4: twelve and I was just getting on the city bus 173 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 4: and I was just riding into downtown and I was 174 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 4: just walking around the city streets. There's a zero percent 175 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 4: chance my wife would let our seventh graders do that. 176 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 4: I'm just saying I I think people have gotten more 177 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 4: protective of kids, and I think there are benefits and 178 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 4: disadvantages to it. There's a movement I know of parents 179 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 4: out there to have free range kids, to have kids 180 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 4: out and about in streets and cities more often. 181 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 3: My point on this is. 182 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 4: Getting on the bus and paying and having your token 183 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 4: or having your bus pass and then having your fare. 184 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 3: Is something that makes it way safer. 185 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,839 Speaker 4: And I just say, this is somebody who rode city 186 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 4: buses because otherwise vagrants when it's cold, if there is 187 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 4: no charge, we'll just get on the bus and they 188 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 4: will sit there and they'll never leave. And producer ally 189 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 4: has talked about this. There are people who get on 190 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 4: the subway and they stink, and they're homeless and it's cold, 191 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,559 Speaker 4: and they just stay on. I don't understand in any way. 192 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 4: I bet Buck they did that pilot program. I bet 193 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 4: they did it on the nicest routes that you run 194 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 4: in the New York City. I find it impossible to 195 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 4: believe that making all buses free is in any way 196 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 4: going to make it safer for the people who are 197 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 4: riding the buses, or that the environment's going to be better. 198 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 4: I just it does not comport with any element of 199 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 4: any experience that I've had as a city bus rider. 200 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 4: It's been a long time since I did it, but 201 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 4: the bus is not that expensive, and I cannot imagine 202 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 4: that there are that many people who would otherwise ride 203 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 4: that can't afford a bus fare in some way. 204 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 2: What kind of person do you think is physically assaulting 205 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 2: a bus driver. Do you think it's a person who 206 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 2: if only they had a free bus fare, they wouldn't 207 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 2: be laying hands on and becoming violent with a city employee. 208 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,719 Speaker 3: No, Okay, this. 209 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 2: Is a total misunderstanding from Mamdani or a really just 210 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 2: I think ignorance of what it's like for people who 211 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 2: live in low income, high crime neighborhoods where there are 212 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 2: people who are just going to get into trouble. They're 213 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 2: going to do things, they're going to break laws, they're 214 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 2: going to hurt people. Making the bus free, as I've 215 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 2: said all along, will turn them into mobile homeless shelters. 216 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 2: That's part one. So no one's now going to feel 217 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 2: like they want to be on the bus. And two, also, 218 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 2: how much more redistribution of wealth and how much bigger 219 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 2: a a debt does the City of New York water 220 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,439 Speaker 2: run ups? So now this will be another thing that 221 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 2: other people have to pay for in a city that 222 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 2: already has a huge welfare state, in addition to federal 223 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 2: benefits that people get and I just think that it 224 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 2: shows that it's totally wrongheaded in its approach. We need 225 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 2: a society where people have greater personal accountability. We want 226 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:52,719 Speaker 2: to promote a society where people are held responsible for 227 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 2: their actions and we are all treated as equals and 228 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 2: as adults, but we also have consequences for when we 229 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 2: viholate that trust. That's the only way to make things better. 230 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 2: To placate the people who break the rules, are violent, 231 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 2: break the law. It just encourages more of it. 232 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 4: Totally, And I again I think your point on hey people, 233 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 4: there's not been a mass departure from New York. In general, 234 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 4: I think people exaggerate what they are going to do 235 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 4: when someone gets elected that they don't like be here 236 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 4: all the time. If Trump wins, I'm moving to Canada. 237 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 4: And to her credit, Rosie O'Donnell is like the only 238 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 4: person that has been famous that has left the country. 239 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 4: She went to Ireland. I give her credit because she 240 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 4: at least stood behind her comments. She doesn't seem like 241 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 4: she's doing very well in Ireland, doesn't seem like the 242 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 4: Irish people like her that much, doesn't seem like her 243 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 4: family's doing that well, but she followed through on her promise, 244 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 4: which most people do not do. What I will say 245 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 4: is I do believe that in the spring and summer 246 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 4: when school year end, I think there are going to 247 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 4: be a ton of people in the New York City 248 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 4: era area that will kick the tires on potentially leaving. 249 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 4: With that in mind, you live through it, Buck, If 250 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 4: you were willing to stay in New York City through COVID, 251 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 4: I don't know how much worse things would have to 252 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 4: get for you to finally say this is my breaking point. 253 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 4: For a lot of people, the COVID restrictions was the 254 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 4: breaking point. 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No promo code needed, Rapid Radios communication redefined. 272 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 3: You don't know what you don't know right, but you could. 273 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 6: On the Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck podcast. 274 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 4: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We're going 275 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 4: to be joined by Senator Ran Paul at the bottom 276 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 4: of the hour. I was out yesterday. I wanted to 277 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 4: mention this. So many of you said nice things, and 278 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 4: I appreciate it. My uncle Kenneth died at the age 279 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 4: of eighty four, and I was at his funeral in 280 00:14:56,000 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 4: East Tennessee. And he was a Vietnam Vet and worked 281 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 4: for Buck thirty years for South Central Bell, going around 282 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 4: working on phone lines all over the Chattanooga, Tennessee area. 283 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 4: And he was just such an amazing guy. And I 284 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 4: know there are many also Vietnam or veterans out there 285 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 4: that are listening to us right now. And I know 286 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 4: somewhat that has changed in the past couple of decades 287 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 4: about how we've responded to the people who fought in 288 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 4: that war. But I actually think we should be doing 289 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 4: a better job of saying thank you to everyone who 290 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 4: fought in that war. Certainly when they came back, they 291 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 4: were not embraced. It wasn't their choice to go to 292 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 4: that war. It wasn't their choice to be putting their 293 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 4: lives on the line, but they were willing to answer 294 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 4: when the country called. And my uncle is representative of 295 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 4: that generation. You know, he worked on helicopters, served in Vietnam. 296 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 4: And as I was at his funeral yesterday, he was 297 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 4: supremely healthy for eighty three and a half years, just 298 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 4: got very sick in the last six months with cancer. 299 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 4: But I wanted as they had the flag at his 300 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 4: casket and as they were talking about his service there 301 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 4: at the funeral, I wanted to just think about that 302 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 4: say thank you for the responses that people have shared 303 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 4: out there in the audience. But bigger than that say 304 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 4: thank you to everyone out there listening to us right 305 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 4: now that is a Vietnam War vet, because I think 306 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 4: in many ways we have largely neglected saying thank you 307 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 4: for everybody out there who put their lives on the 308 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 4: line in that war. So thank you for everybody. He 309 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 4: had an amazing life, phenomenal guy. I feel honored that 310 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 4: I had the forty six years of my life to 311 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 4: be able to experience with him. He was as good 312 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 4: of an uncle as anybody could be. And it's a 313 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 4: holiday season comes up. I would just encourage all of you, 314 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 4: you know, hug and kiss as many friends and family 315 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 4: members as you can, because we don't know when the 316 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 4: holiday is going to be the last one that we 317 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 4: get to spend together. So hopefully we all have a 318 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 4: lot more. But last Christmas was our last Christmas with him. 319 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 4: Didn't know it, And just would encourage everybody out there 320 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 4: to say thank you to the Vietnam vets in your life, 321 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 4: and also to make sure that you don't neglect saying 322 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 4: thank you to anybody out there that is a member 323 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 4: of your family that you may not get to spend 324 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 4: another Christmas with all Right, Hopefully that wasn't too negative. 325 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 4: But I just wanted to say thank you Buck. 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We have a flotilla the likes of which 353 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,719 Speaker 2: the Caribbean has not seen in quite some time of 354 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 2: US naval and other military power. We have a effectively 355 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 2: an ultimatum from a duro. Is this regime change? 356 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:25,479 Speaker 3: What's going on? 357 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 7: It looks like it's going to be regime change. It's 358 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 7: sort of regime change in the process. Personally, I think 359 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 7: that war should be a last resort, that we should 360 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 7: try to attempt to avoid war, and that we should 361 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 7: act in a way that we have to go to 362 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 7: war when we have to defend our country. So war 363 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 7: should be in self defense. And this to me is 364 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 7: an offensive war. It's a war because we don't like 365 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 7: the government of Venezuela. You know, I don't like socialism. 366 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 7: I wrote a book called The Case against Socialism. In it, 367 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 7: I open in the beginning the book talking about gangs 368 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 7: in Venezuela looking for food because the economy's so desperate 369 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 7: under socialism. But at the same time, we could probably 370 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 7: list two dozen countries around the world that have either 371 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 7: authoritarian rule or authoritarian socialist rule. And I just don't 372 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 7: think it's the job of the American soldier to go 373 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 7: around and spread freedom at the point of a bayonet. 374 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 7: So now I'm not for this war, and I think 375 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 7: it ought to be voted on by Congress that presidents 376 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 7: under the Constition don't have the power to initiate war 377 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 7: without approval of Congress. 378 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 4: Where we're talking to Senator r and Paul, and there 379 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 4: are a ton of things going on out there as 380 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 4: we finish year one of Trump two point zero, what 381 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 4: would you if you were giving a letter grade, given 382 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 4: the fact that exams are going on all over the 383 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 4: country right now, what letter grade would you give President 384 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 4: Trump and his administration on year one two point zero? 385 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 4: And what do you think should be the top priorities 386 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 4: when Congress returns to action in in January of twenty twenty. 387 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 7: Six, Let's say a triple plus on controlling the border. 388 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 7: And in fact, they did so well and did it 389 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 7: so quickly that they've actually forgotten to tell the American 390 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 7: people they did it, so it's become accepted, you know, 391 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 7: just everybody expects now the border is controlled. But this 392 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 7: was a border that Biden was letting millions of people 393 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 7: cross unintended, many of them a danger to our community, 394 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 7: and a lawlessness at the border. He came in and 395 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 7: within three months controlled that. I think the mistake is 396 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 7: they've moved on to other things instead of promoting and 397 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 7: telling the people about what a good job they did 398 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 7: on the border, on maintaining the tax cuts that I 399 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 7: supported back in twenty seventeen, a triple plus, great idea 400 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 7: to continue those tax cuts. On spending and deficit, you know, 401 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 7: about the same grade that all parties get. You know, 402 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 7: Republicans and Democrats have historically been terrible with the debt, 403 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 7: and I think the debt continues to accumulate it an 404 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 7: alarming rate. We now have over a trillion dollars in interest. 405 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 7: So I think they can do much better on spending 406 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:09,199 Speaker 7: and debt. But on the taxation level, pretty good, and 407 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 7: on the border great. 408 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 5: Now. 409 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,360 Speaker 2: You have been very vocal, Senator Paul about these strikes 410 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 2: on suspected or alleged narco boats and mostly the Caribbean, 411 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 2: also some in the Eastern Pacific off the coast of Mexico. 412 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 2: Are there other senate colleagues on the Republican side who 413 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 2: share your concerns and what. 414 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 3: Would you like to see? 415 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 2: What would the administration have to do, this White House 416 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 2: have to do for your concerns to be allayed regarding 417 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 2: these strikes. 418 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 7: You know, one of the questions I've been putting forward 419 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 7: is are they armed? I mean, we have a long 420 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 7: standing tradition, not just here but around the world among 421 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 7: civilized people that we don't shoot unarmed people. So, you know, 422 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 7: some questions came out, do we shoot shipwrecked people when 423 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 7: people were clinging the wreckage, and it's actually part of 424 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 7: our military law that we don't. We also usually don't 425 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 7: shoot unarmed people. So these boats that are alleged to 426 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 7: curing drugs, probably a lot of them do have drugs. 427 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 7: I'm not disputing that most of these boats don't have 428 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 7: the capability to even get to the United States. They 429 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 7: can go about one hundred miles and after be fuel. 430 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 7: So a lot of these drugs, if they are drugs, 431 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,959 Speaker 7: are being distributed by unarmed people into some of the 432 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 7: Lower Caribbean islands. What we've done historically for crimes is 433 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 7: we capture you and prosecute you. It's difficult work, it's 434 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 7: not easy, but that's what we have always expected, and 435 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 7: Coast Guard interdicts these boats routinely, still does. And the 436 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 7: ratio of boats that have drugs to those who don't 437 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 7: is about one in four of every boat that's boarded 438 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 7: doesn't have drugs. So that's a pretty high airr rate. 439 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 7: To expect that we're going to kill unarmed people based 440 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 7: on an air rate of about one in four being 441 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 7: picking up the wrong people. So I'm absolutely opposed to this. 442 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 7: I think that you know, there are are some on 443 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 7: the Republican side who uneasy, but most voices have been 444 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 7: somewhat tamped down on the Republican side on any policy 445 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 7: they disagree with the president. But I think that makes 446 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 7: us weak as a country. I think we all need 447 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 7: to be big enough to be able to have criticism 448 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 7: even within the party. 449 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 4: What should happen on healthcare? I know you and the 450 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 4: President have been going back and forth on some disagreements 451 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:28,479 Speaker 4: and issues, but there's talk that maybe the government's going 452 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 4: to shut down again. In January, I saw where Chuck 453 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 4: Schumer refused to say that he would not shut down 454 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 4: the government again. Tell me if you think I'm wrong, Senator, 455 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 4: But it feels like to me that a big part 456 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 4: of the twenty twenty six Democrat plan as they get 457 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 4: ready to run in the midterms, is going to be 458 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 4: shutting down the government arguing that Republicans all want to 459 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 4: take away everybody's health care and they want everybody to die. 460 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 4: I mean, we all know how this is going to 461 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,439 Speaker 4: play out. It seems kind of clear to me what 462 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 4: should happen, what will happen in the world of healthcare. 463 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 7: On healthcare, President Trump and I have a great deal 464 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 7: of agreement. We work together in the first administration to 465 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 7: craft an executive order that the intention was to allow 466 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 7: people to buy insurance across state lines, and insurance as 467 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 7: part of a co op or a collective like Sam's 468 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 7: Club or Costco. The problem with the executive order is 469 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 7: the problem we all often have with executive orders is 470 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 7: the law's not changed. We try to bend the law 471 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 7: through an executive order, people sue in court. So all 472 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 7: the Democrat ag sued. They tied it up in court 473 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 7: and never really got to have its full effect. But 474 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 7: I've communicated with the President in the last couple of weeks, 475 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,479 Speaker 7: and he says he still favors this policy that I've 476 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 7: been pushing, and mine would basically cost nothing, didn't cost 477 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 7: the taxpayer or anything. Just makes it legal to buy 478 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 7: a cross state lines and makes it legal for anybody 479 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 7: that wants to collect people together, particularly groups that already 480 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 7: exist like Amazon, Costco or Sam's Club, to buy insurance 481 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 7: as a group. What would happen is and really have 482 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 7: no more individual market. So if you're an accountant and 483 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 7: you have three employees you buy insurance for, or maybe 484 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 7: you're a construction guid and you got one hundred employees, 485 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 7: why would you want to buy insurance on your own? 486 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 7: Why not join a private collective that negotiates better prices. 487 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 7: And I think we could really drive prices down if 488 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 7: you just take the subsidies that we're currently giving to 489 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 7: insurance companies and you give those subsidies to people's health 490 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 7: savings accounts. I think that's just a distinction without a difference. 491 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 7: You're still giving away money we don't have, and it's 492 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 7: still going to all wind up in an insurance company's pocket. 493 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 7: So my association health plans would bring prices down. The 494 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 7: other thing I would do is I wouldn't give taxpayer 495 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 7: money to health savings accounts, but I would let everyone 496 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 7: have a health savings account. Right now, only ten percent 497 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 7: of insurance plans sold. Is it legal to have health 498 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 7: savings account? People on Medicare cannot have health savings accounts. 499 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 7: I would let everybody in America have health savings account. 500 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 7: I get A thing I got to do to think 501 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 7: about this is think about how many kids have braces. 502 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 7: I had three kids that all had braces, but I 503 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 7: did it with pre tax money through my ol savings account. 504 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 7: It's not fair that only ten percent of the public 505 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 7: gets that. We should let that great benefit accrue to everyone. 506 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 2: It's being the Senator Ran Paul of Kentucky and Senator 507 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 2: Affordability is the big catchword for what is a focus 508 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty six policy and politics. People are already 509 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 2: projecting that the mid terms will take affordability into account 510 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 2: in a major way. And affordability is really just kitchen 511 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 2: table economics, right. This is a concept that we've been 512 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 2: dealing with for as long as American political parties have 513 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 2: been vying for attention and power. But what do you 514 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 2: see as the ways that the administration and to the degree Congress. 515 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 3: Well, I'm not sure Congress is going to be able to. 516 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 2: Do much on this, But what do you see as 517 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 2: the best way forward, especially on the housing issue, because 518 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 2: it's so complicated, so important, and it has gotten too 519 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 2: expensive for the average American family to be able to 520 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 2: afford the median. 521 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,679 Speaker 3: Home in this country. What can be done? What should 522 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 3: be done? 523 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 7: Well, pipbuf to realize, the price of things goes up 524 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 7: because of the value of your dollar shrinks. So part 525 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 7: of the reason that President Trump won this last time 526 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,439 Speaker 7: around was because it was becoming unaffordable to live Under Biden. 527 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 7: Biden had about twenty percent inflation in four years, and 528 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 7: wages rose less less rapidly. So if you add in 529 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 7: a little bit of inflation under Trump plus the twenty 530 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 7: percent under Biden, it's about twenty five percent inflation over 531 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 7: the last five years. That twenty five percent. Unless your 532 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 7: wages went up twenty five percent, you've all gotten four. 533 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 7: So people are being squeezed it. Things are less affordable 534 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 7: because of the value of the dollar. Why does the 535 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 7: dollar lose its value because of the debt. The debt 536 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 7: is bought by the Federal Reserve. They buy it by 537 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 7: introducing new dollars into circulation and devalues of the dollars 538 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 7: we have. That's what price inflation is. It's not a mystery. 539 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 7: It comes from debt and then the printing of money 540 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 7: to pay for the debt. So I think they need 541 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 7: to explain it better and explain where inflation comes from, 542 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 7: and then you combat it basically by introducing balanced budgets 543 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 7: and less debt. Now, the problem is both parties are 544 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 7: terrible with debt. You know, Biden was terrible with it, 545 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 7: but really the previous Trump administration added eight trillion, then 546 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 7: Biden added eight trillion. We're on target to add another 547 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 7: eight or nine trillion under this administration. So we have 548 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 7: to do a better job at controlling debt and affordability. 549 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 7: With housing. Part of it's the loss of the value 550 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,719 Speaker 7: of the dollar, but part of it also is controls 551 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 7: that forbid you from you know, raising or improving the 552 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 7: value of things like rent control in New York is 553 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 7: a disaster. It's why you have no apartments and none 554 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 7: of them get fixed up because if you can only 555 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 7: charge four hundred dollars to live in Manhattan, guess what, 556 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 7: there's no money left over to do any of the repairs. 557 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 7: And so these apartments are just decaying in New York. 558 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 7: But people need to I realize that rent control in 559 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 7: New York is the same thing they have in Venezuela. 560 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 7: That's why they have no food. So when you have 561 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 7: price controls, it's a variation of socialism. And they've just 562 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 7: elected a socialist mayor in New York. So I think 563 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 7: they're's going to have to get a lot worse before 564 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 7: it gets better, until hopefully the young people of America 565 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 7: will see socialism for the disaster that it is. 566 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 3: What is the one start? Yeah, no, go ahead. 567 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 2: I was going to say, what is the one thing 568 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 2: Senator Paul that if you could get President Trump to 569 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 2: really dial in and focus on, for him to spearhead 570 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 2: and try to accomplish next year in advance in the midterms, 571 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 2: what would it. 572 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 7: Be proposing a budget that balances, proposing to spend less money. 573 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 7: The hard and difficult part of that equation, though, is 574 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 7: that most of the money are entitlements. Two thirds of 575 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 7: the spending of governments entitlements, one third is military and 576 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 7: non military discretionary. That's what we vote on. The hard 577 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 7: part about the deficit is the deficit's about to trillion 578 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 7: and the budget that Congress votes on is about two trillion, 579 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 7: so you get actually zero out. And I'm not proposing this, 580 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 7: but if you had zero military spending and drough discretionary 581 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 7: welfare spending, you'd balance your budget, which means basically the 582 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 7: taxes that come in are equivalent to all the mandatory 583 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 7: programs without the discretionary programs. So we are really buying 584 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 7: the eight ball. And this gets worse over time. I mean, 585 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 7: it's going to become an escalating problem that will at 586 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 7: some point spiral out of control. And it's fixable now 587 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 7: if you do something, if we gradually start fixing the entitlements. 588 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 7: But the President, as many of his predecessors have said, oh, 589 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 7: I'm not going to touch entitlements. It's the third rail. 590 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 7: So we're going to stay away from that. And then 591 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 7: when we had the discussion over the Big Beautiful Bill, 592 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 7: some of us tried to fix Medicaid in that bill 593 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 7: and say, look, they got to at least have the 594 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 7: same formula for the states that we once had, where 595 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 7: the states pay part, federal government pays part. Instead Obamacare, 596 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 7: I had all these people to Medicaid and said, oh, 597 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 7: the federal government will pay the whole thing, and those 598 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 7: people are still on And because it was free or 599 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 7: virtually free to the States, the state said, sure, we'll 600 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 7: welcome more people in Medicaid, and more people join medicaid. 601 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 7: Everybody's gotten on food stamps. We served Coca cola to 602 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 7: people on food stamps. We served ding Dongs, Twinkies, donuts. 603 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 7: I mean, it's just candy. You can buy candy on 604 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 7: food stamps. So we've got to do more on having 605 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 7: government live within its means. 606 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,719 Speaker 2: Senator Ran Paul, appreciate you, sir. Merry Christmas, and we'll 607 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 2: talk to you in the new year. 608 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 7: Same you, guys. 609 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 2: There's no other nonprofit that I can think of that's 610 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 2: doing more day in, day out to save the lives 611 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 2: of babies in the womb than Preborn. Consider how their 612 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 2: staff at one of their clinics welcomed Victoria. Before she 613 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 2: got to a preborn clinic, Victoria had visited another clinic 614 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 2: in her neighborhood. 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Find them on the free iHeartRadio 636 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 6: app or wherever you get your podcast. 637 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 4: I saw this this morning as I was getting ready 638 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 4: for the show, and I absolutely loved it. 639 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 3: There is a one hundred and one. 640 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 4: Year old patriot who got up he's a World War 641 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 4: Two vet, and he was singing the praises of President Trump. 642 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,399 Speaker 4: And I thought to myself, we've got to make sure 643 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 4: that everybody out there here's this. 644 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,280 Speaker 3: This man's name is Bill Dillon. 645 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 4: This is the Champions for America second Annual Galas celebration. 646 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 4: He said he'd like to get back and return to 647 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 4: military service for President Trump. Listen to this enthusiasm cut one. 648 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 7: Than this. 649 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 4: A little bit difficult maybe to hear that. I don't 650 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 4: know why because I could hear it perfectly on my phone. 651 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 4: But he is up and he says, I'm one hundred 652 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 4: and one going on one hundred and two, and if 653 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 4: President Trump would let me, I'd put on the uniform 654 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 4: and go fight for him today. And so I just 655 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 4: thought that was awesome and wanted to make sure I 656 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 4: shared it before we rolled into the holiday. A lot 657 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,800 Speaker 4: of awesome things going on. I know, sometimes we focus 658 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 4: on some negative things, and there's a lot of awesomeness 659 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 4: out there. 660 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 3: Buck can we come back. 661 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,359 Speaker 4: Let's uh, let's dive into a little bit more on 662 00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 4: that Brown University shooter. What's going on there? And Scott 663 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 4: Bessen is pointing something interesting out that is as millions 664 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 4: of people have left the country who were here illegally. 665 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,720 Speaker 4: Something extraordinary starting to happen. Basic economics are at play. 666 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,320 Speaker 4: Rints are starting to come down across much of the country. 667 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 4: It's amazing how that works. We'll talk about some of that. 668 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 4: Plus we've got Katie Zachariah scheduled to join us at 669 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 4: the bottom of the hour, and it is Buck's final 670 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 4: hour of the year. 671 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 2: She's up next, Actually she's up until she's up in 672 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 2: a few minutes. You're talking about California and all the 673 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 2: good things going on or not so good things going 674 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:35,320 Speaker 2: on over there. Stick around.