WEBVTT - Changes To SummerSlam 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:02.840 Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition 0:00:02.880 --> 0:00:06.680 of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network. 0:00:07.840 --> 0:00:10.920 Right you ready, when you're ready, let's get it all. 0:00:14.440 --> 0:00:18.440 How's it going, everybody? Brian Alvarez here on Wrestling Observer Live. 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:21.320 We are here every day Monday through Friday, New Pacific 0:00:21.320 --> 0:00:24.840 three Eastern, Sunday three Pacific, six Eastern. And it would 0:00:24.880 --> 0:00:28.560 not be Observer Live if everything wasn't ready to go 0:00:28.680 --> 0:00:31.480 right when the show went on the air. I got 0:00:31.520 --> 0:00:34.479 no video right now, but you know what, it's my 0:00:34.600 --> 0:00:40.760 fault because I forgot. But it should be up right now. Hey, 0:00:41.080 --> 0:00:44.519 there we go. All right, Well, now we're ready to go, 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:48.400 and it is Tuesday on the show. We have lots 0:00:48.400 --> 0:00:51.080 to talk about here today. Last night was Raw and 0:00:51.159 --> 0:00:54.000 it was the go home show for Summer Slam, which 0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:57.040 is coming up on Saturday. And we have a full 0:00:57.080 --> 0:01:00.639 lineup for the Summer Slam show here today, which has 0:01:00.680 --> 0:01:04.679 at this point eight matches, and several matches that we 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:07.679 thought were going to be on Summer Slam actually are 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:09.959 not going to be on Summer Slam. They've made some 0:01:10.080 --> 0:01:14.920 changes and we'll tell you exactly why those changes were made. 0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:18.440 What's on the show and what is not. We've also 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:21.440 got the NXT show tonight, which is the follow up 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:23.520 from the Great American Bash. They've added a tag team 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:25.160 match to the show, so we'll give you that one. 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:30.400 Dynamite two hundred The two hundredth episode of Dynamite is tomorrow, 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:33.920 and we have seven matches for that show, and I 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:39.039 would presume, and I would pray actually that tomorrow we 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:42.039 start hearing a lot more about Wembley because we are 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:47.640 now four weeks away, and even Cmpunk on the Collision 0:01:47.680 --> 0:01:51.080 Show on Saturday asked, am I the first person to 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:54.440 actually talk about this show here? It is time to 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:56.680 start getting a card. It's been time for a while, 0:01:57.160 --> 0:01:59.880 and we do have an update on how you are 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:02.880 going to be able to watch both that show and 0:02:03.160 --> 0:02:07.120 all out. We've also got some rating notes. The Thursday 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:11.000 or the Saturday night Collision Show ended up doing a 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:14.720 great number, that of course being with the MGF and 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:17.679 Adam Cole versus FTR title match, so we'll tell you 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:19.519 about that. What the highest rated thing on the show 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:22.480 was same with SmackDown. Had a bunch of other news 0:02:22.560 --> 0:02:24.720 as well, So back in a moment to kick everything off, 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:30.000 Wrestling Observer Live. Sure, I kind of. 0:02:30.000 --> 0:02:40.640 See the range, but they. 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:48.480 Back in the show. Bright Elvarez here Wrestling Observer Live, 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:53.480 Mike siberbb also Wrestling Observer dot Com. Got a lot 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:56.600 of lineups to talk about here today. The NXT show 0:02:56.680 --> 0:02:59.960 is tonight, Everyone's favorite show. We have got a lot 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:03.920 hira of val Kaira versus j C. Jaane, Die Jack 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:08.560 versus Eddie Thorpe. The Schism is doing an interrogation segment 0:03:09.160 --> 0:03:12.200 those Maschism members. Man, We're gonna find out who those 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:18.200 guys are tonight and Ulyssa Leone and Valentina Ferraz versus 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:25.040 Lola Weiss and Electro Lopez. Now, granted, I expected that 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:29.680 pre show match on the NXT pay per view to 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:34.360 be bad, and apparently it was not. I heard nothing 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:37.200 but great reviews about it, So maybe this one will 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:42.080 surprise people. But if it does, I will be surprised, 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:45.400 won't put it that way. Then we have the Dynamite 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:49.080 two hundred lineup for tomorrow, Tony Storm versus A Karashida, 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:55.480 Ossi Open versus Ejdel Vikingo and Commander Jericho, and Takesha 0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:59.119 versus Samy Gabar and daliel Garcia. Jack Perry goes face 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:02.080 to face with the Jerry It is so bizarre. I've 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:05.400 been watching these old NWATNA shows and Jerry Lynn is 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:08.600 wrestling on every single show, and here I am twenty 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:11.400 one years later, Jerry Lynn is doing a face to face. 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:13.760 He's gonna beat some sense and to Jack Perry tomorrow, 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:17.360 he says, just like he beats some sense in a 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:23.720 young aj Styles twenty one years ago. What a stupid storyline. God, 0:04:25.080 --> 0:04:27.279 you know, I don't want to digress, but you know 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:33.680 I've never been a fan of Vince Russo you know, man, 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:38.560 I'm watching these old NWATNA shows that he is booking, 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:43.640 and like, I don't want to say anything bad about anybody, 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:48.880 but he's just like a dumb person. Like this stuff 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:53.760 is so dumb. It doesn't make any sense anybody with 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:58.560 a lick of sense, anybody with a like anything involving 0:04:58.600 --> 0:05:03.320 a working brain. Like I'll just give you one example. Okay, 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:05.200 you guys, remember Sonny Siaki. 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:07.160 I do all right? 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:09.880 Well, Sonny Seaki is one of the Flying Elvis's. Okay, 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:13.200 so like for the last three weeks, Sonny Siaki has 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:15.800 been doing commentary why the football the Flying Elvis is 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:19.880 wrestle and he's like, ah, these Flying Elvis is they suck. 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:22.719 You know anything they do that's good they got from me. 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:27.400 I taught them everything they know. I'm the best guy here. 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:30.920 And so then you know, he does this couple weeks 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:33.159 in a row, and then on the show that I 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:36.920 just watch, it's like he does an interview backstage with Goldilocks, who, 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:38.960 of course he has to bury and make fun of her. 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:42.919 He goes, are you checking out my butt? You're not 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:45.440 allowed to do that, and he just he cuts his 0:05:45.880 --> 0:05:50.359 total heel promo. Okay, three straight weeks, he's been a 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:55.000 total heel. He's cocky, he's arrogant. He's cutting this heel 0:05:55.160 --> 0:05:58.560 promo and he goes, I'm gonna be wrestling here tonight. 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:01.320 I meant I left those zelbs. This isn't home. I'm 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:05.000 gonna show y'all how it's done here tonight, Goldie Horrible 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:07.440 Lady or whatever. So he goes down to the ring 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:13.839 and his opponent comes out and it's whatever, I forget 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:16.359 the it's like Slash or whatever. It's Wolfy d. 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:18.880 Slash, a heel. 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:25.640 Yes, a member of James Mitchell's heel group. This guy 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:29.480 goes in and he gets the heat on Sonny Siaki. 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:34.200 Honey Sunday Sayaki is now a babyface in peril. It's 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:37.680 like the match is getting no heat because nobody knows 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:40.280 what's going on. It's like, wit, We're supposed to cheer 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:43.600 for Sonny Siaki now, and Sonny's trying to make these 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:47.799 babyface comebacks or whatever, and then of course he gets pinned. 0:06:47.960 --> 0:06:51.360 And I'm like, dude, I mean, God, like, of all 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:54.680 of this stupid stuff, you have to be so stupid, 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:59.320 so legitimately stupid to put something together like that. I mean, 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:02.120 I was just like, what is happening here? Why is 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:02.599 he a bit? 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:03.360 God? 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:06.520 Anyway, we'll review the whole show tonight, and that's not 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:08.400 even close to the worst thing on the show. 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:11.760 In fact, it's just going to get worse for you, you 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:13.760 know what I'm saying. It's just gonna get worse. At 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:17.120 some point. You're gonna see just go Inferno, Johnny Swinger 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:20.480 and David Young dancing around in coconut brawls. That's going 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:21.840 to happen at some point here. 0:07:23.280 --> 0:07:27.440 Just the stupidest psychotic I used to always tell Dave, 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:30.160 I'm like, dude, this show is so stupid. This show 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:33.880 is even dumber than than ww' nothing's dumber than W. 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:37.440 I'm watching a second time and I'm telling you this 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:42.600 stuff is way worse than w CW was. Yeah, anyway, it. 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:44.600 Gets a lot more offensive at times as well too. 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:48.680 Moxley, Penta and Trent anything goes match. We're back. We're 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:54.160 back to a real show now. Well, dude, whatever you 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:58.360 think about anything going on in in a e W 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:03.560 or WWE or even NXT, guys, you don't know how 0:08:03.600 --> 0:08:05.840 good you got it. You just don't know how good 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:08.680 you've gotten it. And all this anyway, Kenny Omega, the 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:12.000 Young Bucks versus Jared Jay Lethal and Suttenham sing, I. 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:14.200 Can tell you this is somebody that paid for those 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:16.880 weekly pay per views. I think I would rather pay 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:19.440 you and Vinnie and Craig and Sean to review them 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:22.080 as opposed to paying for them in real time again, and. 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:26.840 Watch, please do, I'm begging you. And then MJF speaks, 0:08:27.400 --> 0:08:29.600 and I presume Adam Cole will be out there as well, 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:33.640 and then we'll talk about collision ratings here in a moment. 0:08:33.720 --> 0:08:37.160 But Adam Cole, MGF and FTR, Yeah they did it. 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:40.800 And then SummerSlam. We'll talk about the Raw report here 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:43.840 later on as well, but this is the update on SummerSlam. 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:49.439 We have got the Tribal Combat match for the Beads 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:53.240 in the title, Roman Reigns versus Jayu, so Cody Rhodes 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:58.040 versus brock Lesner does not have a stipulation, so at 0:08:58.040 --> 0:08:59.839 the end of the day they opted against doing this 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:04.640 stipulation whatever it was gonna be. We've got seth Rawlins 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:07.760 versus Finn Baler for the World Heavyweight title. We have 0:09:07.880 --> 0:09:12.280 Gunther versus Drew McIntyre for the inter Continental title. We 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:15.680 have Oscar, Charlotte and Bianca triple threat for the WE 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:21.400 Women's title, Logan Paul versus Ricochet, Ronda Rousey versus Shana 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:25.720 Basler MMA rules, and we have a Summer Slam Battle Royal. 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:33.360 So there are eight matches. The Rhea Ripley match versus Raquel, 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:36.200 which was scheduled for the show, is not taking place. 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:40.720 They've done an injury angle with Raquel and she is 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:43.640 not cleared in storyline, but when she is cleared, she 0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:46.760 will be back. And I'm not sure all of the 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:49.840 circumstances beyond that one. Maybe there's just you know, they 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:52.040 don't want to do a rush to nothing happened in 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:54.160 match on this show, give them more time, put them 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:57.560 on the next pay per view, whatever. And also the 0:09:58.080 --> 0:10:01.400 plan and this one actually was planned, I think, like 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:05.120 before WrestleMania, Becky Lynch and Trish Stratus was planned for 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:09.120 WrestleMania and they shot a nothing happened in Angle last 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:11.560 night and then announced that the match is actually gonna 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:15.960 be taking place in several weeks in Winnipeg. And I 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:19.480 think that Trish is not ready to do a full 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:22.480 match because of her broken nose, and so I think 0:10:22.520 --> 0:10:25.120 that they figured she would be ready by Summer Slam, 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:27.760 but she's not gonna be ready, and they don't want 0:10:27.760 --> 0:10:31.720 to do a literally two second match at SummerSlam, and 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:33.640 so they're gonna give her another couple of weeks to 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:36.840 heal up and then do that match on TV as 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:41.120 a main event in Winnipeg. So that is the lineup 0:10:41.200 --> 0:10:45.360 on all of that, and I still expect this to 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:47.960 be a hell of a Summer Slam. I mean probably, 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:51.319 you know, Ray and Roman reigns and jay Uso is 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:54.559 going to be great, Cody Rose and brock Lester is 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:57.319 probably gonna be great. Seth Rawlins and finnbatt Baler is 0:10:57.360 --> 0:10:59.800 gonna be great, Gunthor and Drew McIntyre is going to 0:10:59.840 --> 0:11:03.160 be great, Charlotte and Bianca and Oscar. Whatever you think 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:04.679 of the build for this, I mean, it should be 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:07.480 a really good match. Logan Paul and Ricochet are setting 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:10.199 out to do like a series of the craziest things 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:14.440 ever seen in wrestling. The most vil yeah, though not 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:19.240 not just that, Mike the most viral match most and 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:23.600 then Ronda Rousey and Shayea Basler. You know, they had 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:26.640 a great series of video packages on Raw, and I 0:11:26.720 --> 0:11:30.200 will say that they did a brawl a couple of 0:11:30.240 --> 0:11:34.800 weeks ago and the brawl was great, and the stipulation 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:38.280 years it's going to be an MMA rules match, and 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:40.679 I don't know if they're going to go full MMA 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:45.679 and they're just gonna do like a fifty sparring UFC 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:48.400 style match or what they're going to do. Oh yes, 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:51.360 but this could be. This could be awesome. Yeah, so 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:52.319 we shall see. 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:55.960 I'm looking forward to I'm actually looking forward to that. 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:59.160 And maybe the two video packages helped. 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:00.560 Out a little bit. But I haven't big. 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:02.280 On Rondo, but I'm a big shanea fan, and I 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:03.640 would love to see them go at it. 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:06.040 On the back at the moment with more Observer Live 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:32.440 cats back of the show bright nowb is here wrestling 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:36.680 Observer Live except for VB also Wrestling Observer dot Com. 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:38.839 We had an old White WUF match airing during the 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:43.079 commercial break, and in fact, as somebody pointed out, that 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:48.320 was watching those children in that video there in the audience, 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:55.440 They're in their thirties. Now, oh, that was nineteen ninety five. 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:57.439 Why did you have to go and do that. 0:12:57.679 --> 0:13:00.880 Some of those some of those children have children. 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:04.040 Now, I was in thirteenth grade at that point. 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:09.040 All right, A couple of notes here. Brandon Thurston is 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:13.559 confirmed that Direct TV will be carrying the All in 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:17.120 pay per view. In Demand is as well, so all 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:19.320 of the major cable companies will be carrying it like 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:22.800 a normal show. They are listing a fifty dollars price tag. 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:25.280 None of this has been made official to the public, 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:28.800 but officials with Direct TV confirmed it to Thurston, and 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:33.160 those within companies have confirmed In Demand carrying it to us. 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:36.400 Nor have any of the companies advertised the show to 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:40.160 the public. It is amazing, It is amazing how secretive, 0:13:40.200 --> 0:13:43.360 this gigantic, gigantic show is here. 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:46.199 Well, this is about the time. I mean we're about 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:48.200 three weeks a month out. This is about the time 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:50.640 they start getting crankin on that stuff, which is one 0:13:50.679 --> 0:13:53.479 of the reasons that it was added to the Comcast schedule. 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:56.520 And for those who don't know, In Demand is actually 0:13:56.559 --> 0:14:01.000 owned by Comcast, Cocks and Charter Communication, and so it 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:04.200 is a was it fata compley that this show is 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:06.920 going to be airing into the exact same way all 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:09.200 of the other shows there. It's just a matter of 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:12.359 whether it will air on Bleacher Report or it somehow 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:15.520 again miraculously gets picked up and put on Max. But 0:14:15.880 --> 0:14:17.959 that is not looking like it's going to be the case. 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:20.480 And it is looking like you're going to have back 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:22.880 to back pay per views only what a week or 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:24.400 two apart. 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:27.880 I would say, barring a major, major, major change, this 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:29.960 is not airing on Max. It is probably gonna be 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:33.440 on Bleacher Report and uh yeah, probably one hundred bucks 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:35.760 over two weeks if you want to watch both of 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:38.520 these shows. Is the way it is looking right now. 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:44.640 And the other big note is Collision. The Collision Show 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:49.960 seven hundred and thirty nine thousand viewers for Adam Cole 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:54.520 and MJF versus FTR, up twenty percent from the previous week. 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:58.840 Highest audience total for the show since the premiere episode 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:03.800 a point two seven in eighteen to forty nine, which 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:07.000 was up fifty percent from the week prior. Best number 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:08.680 of the show is done since the point three to 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:11.000 one it drew for the premiere. Hey, you know the 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:14.560 thing is these premiers always they always do sky high 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:17.120 numbers and always falls from the premiere. It doesn't matter 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:19.680 if you're aw, it doesn't matter if you're WWE. That 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:22.400 first SmackDown on Fox had four million viewers. It's never 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:26.680 come close. But to go over a month later and 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:29.880 almost do what you did for the premiere is very impressive. 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:32.400 They went ahead to d with the UFC two to 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:36.800 ninety one prelimbs, which did a point thirty on ABC 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:41.440 and MLB on Fox which did a point three five 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:44.400 and eighteen to forty nine. So it was very very 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:49.760 strong competition and the biggest increases men eighteen to thirty 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:54.920 four up one hundred and eighty one percent. Wow from 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:59.000 last week. Collision's best viewership in the demo since the premiere, 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:03.280 but they were down sixty one percent in females, which 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:05.880 is the only demo the show had to a decrease in. 0:16:06.400 --> 0:16:11.280 So Brandon Thurston had the quarters out this morning and 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:15.760 sampunk streak of being the highest rated thing on Collision 0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:23.000 ended because of that main event and the MJF and 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:28.400 Adam cole versus FTR quarter did eight hundred and thirty 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:33.440 seven thousand viewers and four hundred and twenty six thousand 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:39.680 in eighteen to forty nine, which is a huge number 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:46.920 four Collision, and it grew tremendously. Really it was actually 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:50.960 it was it was long match, so the comparison would 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:54.640 actually be the ninth fifteen to nine thirty segment, which 0:16:54.840 --> 0:17:00.280 was six hundred and eighty two thousand viewers. They grew 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:02.200 to seven fifty six for the first part of the 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:05.439 match in eight thirty seven for the second part of 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:08.760 the match, so they almost added two hundred thousand viewers, 0:17:09.080 --> 0:17:13.600 which is a very very impressive number. And the opening 0:17:13.640 --> 0:17:18.720 segment seven fifty five, which was the Buddy Matthews Andrade 0:17:19.680 --> 0:17:23.119 ladder match, although that did lose viewers, and then the 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:29.120 cmpunk promo did about seven forty five averaging it out, 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:32.720 so he still did very well, but you know, the 0:17:33.000 --> 0:17:38.120 big thing was the tag team title match. And what's 0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:42.919 going to be interesting, as always is how are we 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:47.440 following this up? How are we following this up? Because 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:53.840 you know, we saw with WWE, I thought for sure 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:57.600 that Sammy should have beaten Roman, but he did not. 0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:01.640 And I thought that if he wasn't beating Roman, then 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:04.760 Cody had to beat Roman, and he did not. And 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:07.159 so you know, there was a lot of second guessing 0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:11.280 of these decisions. And now here we are. It's August first, 0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:14.480 and as I've noted before, you know, we'll never know 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:19.680 how things would have been if Cody had just won 0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:22.520 the title and Roman Reigns would have done the exact 0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:25.399 same stuff that he's doing now with the bloodline. But 0:18:25.480 --> 0:18:27.800 what we do know is it did not do any 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:33.159 sort of damage whatsoever because everything has been up substantially 0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:37.560 since WrestleMania. Everything has gone up since WrestleMania when Roman 0:18:37.560 --> 0:18:41.040 beat Cody, and that means that they did not make 0:18:41.160 --> 0:18:43.600 the wrong call. We'll never know if the other call 0:18:43.640 --> 0:18:45.400 would have been better, but we do know they did 0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:48.560 not make a bad call here. Now the question on 0:18:48.600 --> 0:18:51.760 this one is did they make the right call with 0:18:52.000 --> 0:18:54.359 Adam Cole and MGFF not winning the title, where are 0:18:54.440 --> 0:18:57.760 they going next? Are they going to do a rematch 0:18:57.800 --> 0:19:01.760 in Wembley? When the match, you know a lot of 0:19:01.760 --> 0:19:03.520 people thought, oh my god, you know they're going to 0:19:03.600 --> 0:19:06.159 do the rematch in Wembley, And the fact of the 0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:09.760 matter is, you know, FTR beat them, and if they 0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:12.720 were going to do a rematch in Wembley, I think 0:19:12.760 --> 0:19:15.040 that they might have done another finish. I am not 0:19:15.200 --> 0:19:17.800 sitting here telling you. If you had to put a 0:19:17.800 --> 0:19:20.040 gun to my head and I asked me, you think 0:19:20.040 --> 0:19:21.800 they're going to do this rematch in Wembley, I would 0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:24.520 say no, I think they're still going to be doing 0:19:25.119 --> 0:19:28.000 MJFF and Adam Cole. I don't know that. I don't 0:19:28.000 --> 0:19:30.080 know for sure what they're going to do, but you 0:19:30.080 --> 0:19:35.080 know that was that was the plan, and obviously to 0:19:35.119 --> 0:19:37.760 get to that plan, they were not going to beat 0:19:38.520 --> 0:19:40.600 FTR in the finals of this tournament and Tony is 0:19:40.600 --> 0:19:43.920 stuck with that. So you know, is the follow up 0:19:43.920 --> 0:19:45.879 going to be better? Is the bill to MGFF and 0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:48.120 Adam Cole or whatever they're going to do, is that 0:19:48.200 --> 0:19:50.960 going to be better? Because they had a lot of 0:19:51.119 --> 0:19:54.560 momentum going into that tag title match, and as you 0:19:54.600 --> 0:19:58.760 can see from the number and I myself personally, that 0:19:58.920 --> 0:20:04.119 was to me my most anticipated match on any television 0:20:04.160 --> 0:20:09.120 show in a long, long, long time, because I felt 0:20:09.359 --> 0:20:13.000 very strongly that they needed to go with this and 0:20:13.080 --> 0:20:15.840 put the tag titles on them. I was more interested 0:20:15.880 --> 0:20:17.720 in this match than any match on TV and I 0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:20.520 don't even know how long, and clearly a lot of 0:20:20.560 --> 0:20:23.119 other people were as well. So what's the follow up 0:20:23.160 --> 0:20:26.280 gonna be. We're gonna find out more tomorrow. Is the 0:20:26.600 --> 0:20:31.040 alternate storyline is going to be better than what they 0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:32.919 did leading into this? I guess we'll find out, but 0:20:33.320 --> 0:20:35.280 I think that's going to be a tough hill to 0:20:35.320 --> 0:20:38.720 climb because there was a lot of interest in this 0:20:38.840 --> 0:20:41.560 feud and in MGF and Adam Cole winning those titles. 0:20:42.080 --> 0:20:46.199 Well, let me ask you a question, then, a philosophical question, 0:20:46.359 --> 0:20:49.399 because you were very big on not only them getting 0:20:49.400 --> 0:20:53.720 the titles, but even more importantly than that, them staying together. 0:20:53.960 --> 0:20:57.040 What do you think is more important them winning the 0:20:57.080 --> 0:21:00.440 titles or them just staying together? Because off of this 0:21:00.600 --> 0:21:03.919 you could get Dax Horwood in MJF, which leads to 0:21:04.040 --> 0:21:06.199 MJF and cm PUNK. There are some things that you 0:21:06.240 --> 0:21:08.720 can do with it. But what was more important to you? 0:21:08.800 --> 0:21:10.960 The fact that they are together here? Do you think 0:21:11.000 --> 0:21:13.040 that or do you think they really needed to stay 0:21:13.040 --> 0:21:15.360 together and win those tag titles? 0:21:16.160 --> 0:21:20.880 Well, absolutely, without question, they need to stay together for now. 0:21:21.800 --> 0:21:24.119 And I'm not saying that they need to stay together 0:21:24.160 --> 0:21:27.359 for another year because obviously this thing is super hot 0:21:27.440 --> 0:21:30.280 right now. But you know, how long are the fans 0:21:30.280 --> 0:21:32.520 going to be into this? I don't know, But what 0:21:32.600 --> 0:21:34.280 I do know is they weren't ready for it to 0:21:34.320 --> 0:21:37.240 be over yet, and so on that day the more 0:21:37.240 --> 0:21:40.040 important thing. I mean, there's only two options. There's either 0:21:40.160 --> 0:21:43.000 they win the titles and then they split, which would 0:21:43.000 --> 0:21:46.800 be stupid, or they don't win the titles and stay together, 0:21:47.000 --> 0:21:48.760 or they win the titles. So I guess there's three 0:21:48.760 --> 0:21:53.159 options here. So obviously the stupid ones would be, you know, 0:21:53.720 --> 0:21:56.480 winning the titles and breaking up. That would be very dumb. 0:21:57.000 --> 0:22:03.000 That's Vince Russo yeah, you know, second, my most favored 0:22:03.040 --> 0:22:05.680 would be staying together and winning the tag team titles 0:22:06.160 --> 0:22:07.919 and then you know, at some point they lose them 0:22:07.960 --> 0:22:10.399 back to FTR and then break up then and then 0:22:10.440 --> 0:22:13.240 go to whatever they're doing. Or you know this option here, 0:22:13.280 --> 0:22:15.879 which is not winning the tag team titles and staying together. 0:22:16.640 --> 0:22:19.320 But they're still apparently going to have a match against 0:22:19.320 --> 0:22:22.080 each other, So, you know, are they gonna split in 0:22:22.119 --> 0:22:23.760 the match? Is one of them gonna turn against the 0:22:23.800 --> 0:22:25.639 other during the match. Are they gonna try and do 0:22:25.720 --> 0:22:28.480 just a babyface match for the world title. I don't 0:22:28.520 --> 0:22:30.679 know what they're gonna do, but they must have some 0:22:30.720 --> 0:22:32.960 sort of idea. So now I'm interested to see what 0:22:33.040 --> 0:22:33.679 the idea is. 0:22:34.520 --> 0:22:37.280 Well, you know, and this is very much a WWE 0:22:37.400 --> 0:22:40.200 thing because I'm kind of throwing the sporting point of 0:22:40.240 --> 0:22:43.080 view completely out of this now. I'm really just interested 0:22:43.119 --> 0:22:46.840 in what they do with MJF and Adam Cole, how 0:22:46.880 --> 0:22:49.120 they split them up, do they keep them together. I'm 0:22:49.119 --> 0:22:53.840 actually more interested in their psychology of working with each 0:22:53.880 --> 0:22:57.200 other and all that. I'm more interested in that aspect 0:22:57.240 --> 0:23:00.960 of it than I am, you know, over almost anything 0:23:01.000 --> 0:23:03.320 else in it. So I am interested to see where 0:23:03.320 --> 0:23:05.240 they go and how they decide to get out of this, 0:23:05.320 --> 0:23:08.960 and how they decide to maneuver because again, I mean, 0:23:09.200 --> 0:23:12.000 you know, what role will Roderick Strong play in this? 0:23:12.119 --> 0:23:15.800 It's just this is very very interesting. The only issue 0:23:15.840 --> 0:23:18.199 that I would have with them winning the titles or 0:23:18.200 --> 0:23:21.920 them doing a match at all in for the titles 0:23:21.960 --> 0:23:24.840 would be I think unless you have a slight of 0:23:24.920 --> 0:23:28.040 hand set up for mgf's title defense at all out, 0:23:28.720 --> 0:23:31.080 I think you may just be telegraphing it too much 0:23:31.119 --> 0:23:32.879 that one is going to turn on the other and 0:23:32.880 --> 0:23:35.840 then that is going to be the match for all out, 0:23:35.920 --> 0:23:37.240 the title match for all out. 0:23:38.160 --> 0:24:05.680 I can. I'm all with the more Observer Live talk 0:24:05.760 --> 0:24:08.800 in the show. Bryan Elbarez here Wrestling Observer Live, Micember 0:24:08.840 --> 0:24:10.680