WEBVTT - UFC Fighter Chris Weidman

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<v Speaker 1>This is cut to It with Steve Smith Senior at

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<v Speaker 1>production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Smith Senior and I and this is cut to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Good do it, Good do it. They's getting down to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. Good do it. We asked the questions you

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<v Speaker 1>always want to know, but no one ever asked, let's

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<v Speaker 1>cut to it. You ain't heard am about it? Then

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<v Speaker 1>we're about to let you know. It's all. Hey, welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to the cut to the podcast. We got Chris White.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. How are you you? F C former UFC

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<v Speaker 1>middleweight champion ranked number fifte Have you dropped down any

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<v Speaker 1>Are you still fifteen? Sleep don't even know the bank.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm guessing I'm fifteen, So that's code for he hope down.

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<v Speaker 1>But if I if I dropped down any more than that,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't see your name there anymore. So I hope

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't drop down all the way. But honestly, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't really care to be honest, I never cared about

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<v Speaker 1>rankings ever. Ever. We'll explore that a little bit later.

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<v Speaker 1>Middleweight Mixed Martial Arts signed to the UFC, and you are, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you have a wife and three kids, and for some

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<v Speaker 1>odd reason you decided to move down to South Carolina.

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<v Speaker 1>South Carolina. Welcome to the cut to a podcast, so

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<v Speaker 1>you'll care, Lenny. And now two years bro, He's like

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<v Speaker 1>you claimed, not two years Carolina yet, not two years yet?

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<v Speaker 1>I am you know, Long Island is in my heart.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll always uh you know, I love Long Island, but

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<v Speaker 1>I am I love it out here. This is this is,

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<v Speaker 1>this is home. Now. That sounds like he loved him.

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<v Speaker 1>Prices way different and that's for me right now. Southern

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<v Speaker 1>hospitality extends all the way into your into your pockets

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<v Speaker 1>to Yeah, he's gonna be some random questions. Lets nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to do with anything, but just the randomness to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of let you settle down. You seem Michael, you seem

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<v Speaker 1>a little nervous, very uptight' very nervous. Why are you

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<v Speaker 1>up type next to Steve Smith, you know in his

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<v Speaker 1>podcast room. I don't know what to do right now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>someone waked me up. Look you say that's all the

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<v Speaker 1>podcasts they call that Patroniz's patronized, right podcast, You're the

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<v Speaker 1>only one. Just be tutoy. This is my first podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>being honest. If your house was burning down, unfortunately and

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<v Speaker 1>you can only save one item, what would it be

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<v Speaker 1>and why? I mean, at the top of my head,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go with my my math book. I got

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<v Speaker 1>my math book. You know it's got my messages on

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<v Speaker 1>their uh you know, all my photos and videos. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that would have been That's probably what I

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<v Speaker 1>would do. Just no right answer. What about you might

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<v Speaker 1>be on something that you gotta grab. That computer's got

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<v Speaker 1>everything on there, your payment information even even if you

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<v Speaker 1>you can't there's some websites you can't go into, like

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<v Speaker 1>if you have to change identification, order new stuff. All

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<v Speaker 1>my crypto stuff is on there. That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't do it for me access to your phone

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<v Speaker 1>to some degree your card to say you don't here

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<v Speaker 1>he got what about you? Backstage? Though? Probably my kids

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<v Speaker 1>and my wife. But I thought that, I thought that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get you're trying to get Brownie trying You're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to I or it's the opposite. You're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>itemize your family like we assuming they already out. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>can I have a take to? Like this is the

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<v Speaker 1>dumb button? You don't get a take to? Okay, Hey Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>you got a little bit on your mustache A little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I gave it to him after being next question, Please,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the craziest thing you've ever done? Chris Um? This

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<v Speaker 1>is a family friendly show. You don't include me? Say

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<v Speaker 1>this doesn't include Joe's mustache? I mean this family feud.

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<v Speaker 1>Next you can pass come back, come back to me?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? Like that? See fighter, you didn't have an

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<v Speaker 1>answer right one of the minute times somebody as I

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna say, somebody out he got. That's my issues

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<v Speaker 1>with like adrenaline stuff, because it doesn't get crazier than fighting.

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<v Speaker 1>You're going to a pge with another like like legit

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<v Speaker 1>weapon and you know what could possibly happen to you

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<v Speaker 1>every time? I'm the weapon too, But there's another weapon

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<v Speaker 1>in there. You know someone's gonna go down and it

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<v Speaker 1>could be pretty bad, that really bad. What does that

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<v Speaker 1>have to do with, bro, what's the craziest thing you

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<v Speaker 1>ever did? Like walking into how about saying just it's

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<v Speaker 1>a little crazy? Okay, are you finished? I mean that's

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<v Speaker 1>a good going south quickly? I mean, goodness, gracious, he's

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<v Speaker 1>so like on his podcast he was ready to go.

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<v Speaker 1>He got my mom's if you want to vocabulary exam

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<v Speaker 1>right now, spelling, Look, I already know I can't, so

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<v Speaker 1>I guarantee you can't. All right? For all right, for

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<v Speaker 1>a high motor guy like yourself, what do you do

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<v Speaker 1>to slow down the world around you? Uh? Man, I

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<v Speaker 1>just I don't know. I go, I go chilled. My family,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. My wife kind of puts me to my

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<v Speaker 1>place when I got home, tells me what to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I do the honting to do list. Play video games.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just you know, Madden. Madden is probably my favorite. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been playing with the same group of guys since

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<v Speaker 1>high school, since since like oh one. That's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>how we stay in touch. Who are you run with?

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<v Speaker 1>Who are you playing with right now? Right now? Right now?

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<v Speaker 1>The Cowboys, Cowboys, Chiefs. You know you're not in the

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<v Speaker 1>playoffs though, right not the playoffs. I'm a quick play mode,

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<v Speaker 1>all right? How you being man? Highest things been going

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<v Speaker 1>for you? I'm doing good, man, life is good. Just

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<v Speaker 1>focused on rehab, working out. I'm talking about Are you

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<v Speaker 1>talking about rehab physical rehab from other rehab? No, just

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<v Speaker 1>just physical rehab. I do have a mental coach, though

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<v Speaker 1>you do. I do have a mental coach. Is good.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I just had my my pop guest why

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<v Speaker 1>do you have a mental coach? Because we always do

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<v Speaker 1>say of of it is mental, temper cent is physical.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like a lot of athletes say that. But

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<v Speaker 1>how much time do you actually put into the mental world.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of there's a lot of effort that

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<v Speaker 1>you should be putting into that that I think we

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<v Speaker 1>kind of skip over, and uh, we see it as

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<v Speaker 1>a weakness to have someone help get our head in order,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, But I think that's the most important part,

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<v Speaker 1>is to have a good mindset and to have your

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<v Speaker 1>your crapping over. How long have you had that coach?

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<v Speaker 1>Right before this last fight I got I have my

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<v Speaker 1>bachelor's degree in psychology. I always just kind of felt

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<v Speaker 1>like I was good mental wise, and I feel like, why,

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<v Speaker 1>what's up? Just because you said you have your back.

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<v Speaker 1>You have your bachelor's in psychology, So you know what

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<v Speaker 1>they say when you go you know what they say

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<v Speaker 1>when I got my masters in uh, you know, from education.

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<v Speaker 1>I got my doctorate in the medical field of some sort.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll play it AFTERR on television. Do you really know

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<v Speaker 1>so you've been doing it and so you've been just

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<v Speaker 1>doing this recently, then yeah, can you tell a difference already.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just you know what. It's not like I'm telling

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<v Speaker 1>him my you know, my inner secrets. It's not like

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<v Speaker 1>a therapy session, which I kind of expected it to

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<v Speaker 1>be that way. It's more it's more just like kind

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<v Speaker 1>of getting your life in order, like having you organize

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<v Speaker 1>your goals the right way, like if you if there

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<v Speaker 1>were certain things that you want to do in the morning,

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<v Speaker 1>making sure you're on top top of it, on task um,

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<v Speaker 1>and just having your y on why you're doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, oh, thirty seven, this may come across the

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<v Speaker 1>wrong way, but at thirty seven years old, you're just

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<v Speaker 1>discovering your why in such a dominant player in the

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<v Speaker 1>UFC or or sportsman. And then you have you've been

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<v Speaker 1>to school. You didn't go like, you didn't go to

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<v Speaker 1>a school where education was not up there, very high

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<v Speaker 1>end school, hosh University, School of Greatness, and I agree

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<v Speaker 1>it is one of those places where it's not known

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<v Speaker 1>to really be about sports. It's more about academic. Sports

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<v Speaker 1>is his secondary well, and it depends on the sport.

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<v Speaker 1>At the time when I was there, we were top

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<v Speaker 1>ten Division one, so I went there primarily for sport wrestling.

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<v Speaker 1>The wrestling team no, but you went there for sport.

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<v Speaker 1>But you have to have pretty good grades. I went

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<v Speaker 1>to a community college first, I went to junior college.

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<v Speaker 1>I yes, I went to Scenic Route. I stepped it

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<v Speaker 1>up and then I was Then I got into a

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<v Speaker 1>school that I wouldn't have been able to get to

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<v Speaker 1>UH without, you know, in out of coming out of

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<v Speaker 1>high school, man, I stepped it up. Well, what I

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<v Speaker 1>was saying is thirty seven years old. You know whether

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<v Speaker 1>the ranking is true. I'll if you're off by four,

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<v Speaker 1>off or add on too. You're pretty ranked high in

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<v Speaker 1>the UFC, and yet you're just figuring out to some

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<v Speaker 1>degree in a better capacity of what's your why. No,

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<v Speaker 1>that's you got a little wrong. So see, that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I was double checking A part of what my wire,

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<v Speaker 1>A part of dealing with a mental coach is to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out your why, to talk about it, and to

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<v Speaker 1>write it down. All this stuff. I've always had a

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<v Speaker 1>good idea of what my wires. I'm just saying, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>always looking to learn. As a champion, you never a

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<v Speaker 1>close minded slight flesh multiple time world champions, you never

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<v Speaker 1>you never are done learning. You're never done learning from

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm not a champion, but I'm not. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I've had but I've had time. I've been thinking sometimes.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm just always open to learning and uh and

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<v Speaker 1>and anybody who could teach me something. I'm always over.

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<v Speaker 1>What kind of movies do you there? What kind of

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<v Speaker 1>movies do I like? I like? I kind of like whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a big movie TV show guy. I watched

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<v Speaker 1>yellow Stone. I like yellow Stone, Dude that I haven't watched.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that. What is yellow Stone? Yellow Stone is

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<v Speaker 1>basically the mafia of cowboys, but the cowboys aren't from

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<v Speaker 1>back in the day. It is right now. And you

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<v Speaker 1>don't realize that living where we live, that there's legitimately

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<v Speaker 1>like ranches and there's families and it's been generations and

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<v Speaker 1>generations of like this dynasty that they created where they

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<v Speaker 1>only these ranches and there's other people nearby their own

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<v Speaker 1>different ranches, and there's these like family battles basically that

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<v Speaker 1>go down, and uh, it's pretty cool to find out

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<v Speaker 1>that this is going on right now, and it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>just basically like the mafia, the way they play power

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<v Speaker 1>and everything and start taking over and people getting killed.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, dirty things are happening. So it's fun. Where

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<v Speaker 1>are you from in a place you call your hometown,

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<v Speaker 1>It's called it's a town called Baldwin, Long Island, New York. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>how far is that from? What? What? I'm not in

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<v Speaker 1>New York City, so I'm like, it's a it's a

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five minute train ride, which I was like right

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<v Speaker 1>next to the train to get into Manhattan to Penn

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<v Speaker 1>Station to get to Queens is like, you know, ten minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>so you're right there? Any yes, sir, yeah, right there,

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<v Speaker 1>all right? What was your child? Uh? It was good?

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<v Speaker 1>Had an older brother, you know he was he was

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<v Speaker 1>a really good athlete. Whoa what do you consider a

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<v Speaker 1>good athlete? We're gonna get into that later. Um he was.

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<v Speaker 1>He was, you know, fast and strong. Whatever he did

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<v Speaker 1>was what do you consider strong and fast? I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get pretty granuly. He I just well, we've had some dialogue,

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<v Speaker 1>so I just want to see. It's kind of setting

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<v Speaker 1>up for some other questions. I think at his peak,

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<v Speaker 1>he was you know, he was mentioning to because he

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<v Speaker 1>was doing football. He did five times linebacker, so six

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<v Speaker 1>to oh yeah, he's not snot out of yeah, he

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<v Speaker 1>was not just I mean, wait a minute, it's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>I've only went seventy many times. You do one time,

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<v Speaker 1>probably that's pretty good. But what you said, that's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's why that's why I asked. Yeah, no, he was.

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<v Speaker 1>He was bigger, stronger, and fast, more athletic than me

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. So I was just kind of living in

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<v Speaker 1>the shadows, working hard. Okay, yeah when he rose. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you have growing up? Who alize you talking about your brother?

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<v Speaker 1>But whose did you adolize? You know, my dad? I

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<v Speaker 1>would say my dad was my idol. I didn't really

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<v Speaker 1>like have any you know, people on sports teams or

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<v Speaker 1>anything like that that I was super into. Maybe some

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<v Speaker 1>wrestlers as I got older. There was some college wrestlers,

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<v Speaker 1>some guys who wrestling the baby what about what about

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<v Speaker 1>like wrestling wrestling prest progress. Maybe when I was a

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<v Speaker 1>little little I was into it. But like woically he

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<v Speaker 1>tossed that aside, broking about rddy ddy pipers like that,

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<v Speaker 1>it's fake. Don't crush my dreams, bro, do not do that. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you go to those wrestling events. There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people that you don't want to crush your dreams. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>don't don't be in a dream crush. It's real, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>so condescending all right? So do you believe you rep

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<v Speaker 1>New York the right way? Because you know how you

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<v Speaker 1>meet people like Geez from Geez from North Carolina, he's

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<v Speaker 1>from Alection to my man will rep. He will tell

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<v Speaker 1>a about Lexington. I love he won't He want to

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<v Speaker 1>ask stuff about Lexton. I'm like, oh, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>about that one, but I'm using as an example of like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I love l A. I always always wrap

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<v Speaker 1>l A. So I just wonder going backwards living here

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<v Speaker 1>now in in in Charlotte, do you believe you rep

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<v Speaker 1>in New York? Yeah? Always? You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Why well born raised there, never left until a year

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<v Speaker 1>and a half ago. Um, you know, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>just what do I I think? New York people are

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<v Speaker 1>tough people, They're resilient. It's it's a very competitive atmosphere

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<v Speaker 1>because there's so many damn people and there's only so

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<v Speaker 1>much there's out there, so like, in order to survive

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<v Speaker 1>in New York is very difficult, and only the strong survive. Yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I try my best. I try my best for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you miss about it? I mean, it's all

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff that's not that good for me, like the

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<v Speaker 1>pizza bagels. That's the one thing in covid bro. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the one thing about traveling. I missed like we had

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<v Speaker 1>a New York Thursday night game and we did it

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<v Speaker 1>from the house, got off at like there was no

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<v Speaker 1>piece of slices waiting for me when I got off

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<v Speaker 1>just I do like j though, but nothing is better

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<v Speaker 1>than like uh for me, a Sicilian slice of pizza

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<v Speaker 1>late at night, that's good, that is good. Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>if I had to do I usually when I would

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<v Speaker 1>eat like crazy bad, I would have one regular slice

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<v Speaker 1>because that's how you kind of tell how good the

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<v Speaker 1>pizzaree is, and that's to be legit. Then you got

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<v Speaker 1>I got two specialty slices. Usually it'll be a ZD

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<v Speaker 1>slice slice. So it's basically like penny. You know, penny,

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<v Speaker 1>you said, Penny Abraham or Hardaway. That's only two pennies

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<v Speaker 1>I know. Um yeah, yeah, so yeah, I would eat.

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<v Speaker 1>I would I would eat half of the z D

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<v Speaker 1>off one side of the slice, and then you then

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<v Speaker 1>you then you can fold it in a half past

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<v Speaker 1>on the pizza pasta samaranara. Yeah, oh so good. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>yea chicken rolls. Do you ever have a chicken roll?

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<v Speaker 1>Do I look like I eat a chicken roll? I

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<v Speaker 1>can't judge. Nobody said roll right, Joe me here talking.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe wanted to say something might come off, is not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna come off? Well, that's awesome. Chris was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what these guys are doing. It's kind of stereotypical.

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<v Speaker 1>I like chicken, but I never had a chicken roll.

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<v Speaker 1>Chicken roll, it's fried chicken inside of bread that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>fried with so basically pizza dough that's wrapped the chickens

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<v Speaker 1>wrapped inside of with mozzarella and marinarrow, cheese, marinara and cheese.

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<v Speaker 1>Or no, it's not agg rolls, not an egg roll. No,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not Chinese food. It's real pizza, real pizza. No, man,

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta take a break in a minute. I love

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<v Speaker 1>cut to It, and I love it even more when

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<v Speaker 1>on social media to Smithie, where where at? That's at?

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<v Speaker 1>Cut to it on Instagram? What about Twitter? At? Cut

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<v Speaker 1>to It? Facebook? Cut to It featuring Steve Smith sing

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<v Speaker 1>I got all my answers questions. Um yeah, I got

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<v Speaker 1>all my questions answered. That's what I'm here for. A

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<v Speaker 1>brother cut to a podcast dot com, How the hell

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<v Speaker 1>did you get into UFC? So, like I was saying before,

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<v Speaker 1>my brother, like he would have me fight his friends

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. It was you know my parents. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>my parents weren't around that much. So you know, parents

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<v Speaker 1>were working, so my my my brother would be physical.

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<v Speaker 1>You just threw your parents New York streets. But they

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<v Speaker 1>let us kind of figure out a lot of stuff

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<v Speaker 1>on our own. So that old school, old school parenting, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much. Well they was actually working as well too,

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<v Speaker 1>they were working. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Um yeah, So I

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<v Speaker 1>just fought a lot as a kid. And so next thing,

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<v Speaker 1>I know when I started wrestling, which kind of put

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<v Speaker 1>me on the straight and arrow, and I started being

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<v Speaker 1>able to focus on something that goal. And then after

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<v Speaker 1>I was done wrestling, I was training for Olympics in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and eight, got injured right before Olympic trials,

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<v Speaker 1>So I was kind of at a crossroads. What I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to do for the rest of my life, and

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<v Speaker 1>fighting I saw it was a big thing and then

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<v Speaker 1>so I just always felt like I always even if

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<v Speaker 1>I lost someone in wrestling match, I was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>know I could definitely you know, beat him in a fight,

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<v Speaker 1>but uh and then ufuly start coming around. I was like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>this is my opportunity. And the people that like knew

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<v Speaker 1>me as from when I was a kid, and people

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<v Speaker 1>that knew me from the wrestling world, They're like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're literally like the perfect fit for fit for fighting

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<v Speaker 1>because of how you grew up and then with the

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<v Speaker 1>wrestling background and all these wrestlers are killing it in there,

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<v Speaker 1>like they just you know. I was like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're right. And that was it. I started

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<v Speaker 1>my my my road to uh into mixed martial arts.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you get into the wrestling, because I know

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<v Speaker 1>you wrestled in college, when you can do the wrestling

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<v Speaker 1>as a youth, I wrestled in second and third grade

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<v Speaker 1>and then stopped until yeah, yeah, elementary wrestling. Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I got my kids in wrestling. I recommend everybody get

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<v Speaker 1>their kids in wrestling. I don't think there's I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think there's a better sport, you know, you get into

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<v Speaker 1>it like middle school down here, Well you can't, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>my kids. Yeah, there's there's plenty of clubs out here.

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<v Speaker 1>You got dark Horse Wrestling in Charlotte Club Wrestling dark

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<v Speaker 1>Horse it's once terrible. So yeah, you've got a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of clubs around here. Yeah, you have plenty of options.

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<v Speaker 1>But wrestling is wrestling. Wrestling is one of those sports

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<v Speaker 1>is a one on one competition, you know, and you

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<v Speaker 1>get to go against someone your own size and your

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<v Speaker 1>own age when it's all on you. Yeah, it's all

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<v Speaker 1>based on weight class. So when you're getting thrown around

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<v Speaker 1>as a young kid in front of your dad, you

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<v Speaker 1>have no excuse other than to look at yourself and

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<v Speaker 1>to learn how to lose, learn how to win. You

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<v Speaker 1>have no excuse. Man, Listen, I remember in in middle

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<v Speaker 1>school and when you're losing basketball or football, you could

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<v Speaker 1>blame it on your teammate. There's way more one on one.

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<v Speaker 1>This is all on you, you know, and it's embarrassing.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you get thrown anybody get thrown around. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>getting man handled as as a man as more. It's

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<v Speaker 1>amistading and getting thrown around in a small tidy whitey. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>exactly in front of your family. In middle school, people

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<v Speaker 1>are already cutting to make weight, people wearing trash bags.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, yeah, not that that was good. That's it

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<v Speaker 1>was bad. Like a lot of the educational weight cutting

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<v Speaker 1>has got way better. But uh yeah, I know I

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<v Speaker 1>feel you. I wasn't one of those kids, but I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen it. Yeah, do you believe that the just random? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>You think the weight cutting all that stuff kind of

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<v Speaker 1>has a you know, maybe least possibly eating disorders or

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<v Speaker 1>or or body shame into some degree. No, not body,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say the only I'm just asking just because

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<v Speaker 1>I just think, as you're saying that, I'm going and

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<v Speaker 1>what could it look like a ten year old kid

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<v Speaker 1>who's just naturally big, who has to cut weight to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to participate in the sport that he only

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<v Speaker 1>figures out, Hey, I can participate in this. I'm good. Wait,

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<v Speaker 1>you know my size is not a deterrent anymore. But

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<v Speaker 1>being not being the deterrent, that's still that little gray

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<v Speaker 1>area where you know, five pounds too much or two

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<v Speaker 1>pounds too much for a kid and ten years old, man,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a lot. Yeah, I don't think any kids should

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<v Speaker 1>be cutting weight um, even in high school. I would

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<v Speaker 1>say the more of the issue with weight cutting has

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<v Speaker 1>been happening in high school a few years. Little kids,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope no little kids are cutting weight like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but there are some parents that you know, for whatever reasons,

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<v Speaker 1>they want this kid to be successful and then lived curiously.

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<v Speaker 1>It's crazy to watch, but yeah, for them to have

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<v Speaker 1>their kid cut way to win, you know, some little

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<v Speaker 1>elementary school tournament. But you no matter how big they

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<v Speaker 1>think it is, I think it's ridiculous. Yeah, but if

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<v Speaker 1>you just said it, you know, you get thrown around.

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<v Speaker 1>There's one on one right, you get the wrong parents

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<v Speaker 1>take it the wrong way. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I was. I mean, like this is this is

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<v Speaker 1>late nineties when I was in middle school. But I

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<v Speaker 1>can only imagine it's it's probably gotten worse. I would

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<v Speaker 1>imagine the ain't got better. I think the education on

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<v Speaker 1>weight cutting has been better, like getting passed you know,

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<v Speaker 1>down by professionals to the coaches, now to the athletes.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the education has got better to where it

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<v Speaker 1>it's definitely think it's definitely better than when I was

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<v Speaker 1>in high school. What do you think about how hard

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<v Speaker 1>is it to move up? And down in the different

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<v Speaker 1>weight divisions. I mean, it's it kind of depends. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>are you're talking about like specifically in the UFC or

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<v Speaker 1>just just well just in the UFC. I mean I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it is in Pop Warner weight, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just talking about where it's is. Wight is is weight limits,

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<v Speaker 1>but not not the moving up and down moving up

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<v Speaker 1>in UFC or boxing or wrestling. Yeah, I'm just I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just wondering because that's your that's that's your deal. Just wondering,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the different ship moving up. Have you ever

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<v Speaker 1>moved up in weight? I moved up in weight and

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<v Speaker 1>I lost. I lost explained that to us, Like what

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<v Speaker 1>what's the process and going and moving up in weight?

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're gonna do it the right way, you

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<v Speaker 1>would have to put a muscle and take your time

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<v Speaker 1>and go on up. I I kind of just did

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<v Speaker 1>it out of nowhere. I was like, let me just

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<v Speaker 1>go up and wait and see how I feel because

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<v Speaker 1>I won't have to cut any weight. But the difference

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<v Speaker 1>is like, so if I'm walking around about two fifteen, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and you fight at five, that's about normal. You fight

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<v Speaker 1>what you you you make the weight at one five

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<v Speaker 1>and then about thirty hours later you're gonna be fighting

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<v Speaker 1>at like two oh five to like to ten. It's

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<v Speaker 1>most middleweights. How do you do? It's so it's like

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<v Speaker 1>you that d pizza. No, So the way you cut

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<v Speaker 1>weight is uh, I want to know howcave to to

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<v Speaker 1>fifty in thirty hours? I mean up? So I remember

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<v Speaker 1>it's so hard. I mean no, it's not hard to

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<v Speaker 1>put it back on. Um, it's hard to make the weight.

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<v Speaker 1>Put it back on. It is the best thing ever

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<v Speaker 1>because it goes, it feels good. You could you how

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<v Speaker 1>do you? So? You're so you're telling me you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>make weight thirty six hours, thirty hours, thirty five hours

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<v Speaker 1>before you and then you're gonna fight in thirty six hours.

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<v Speaker 1>And what is gonna be your weight? I mean there's

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere between two oh four And how do you go?

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<v Speaker 1>How do you go after adding that much weight? How

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<v Speaker 1>do you go and move? Because? Bro, I mean normally

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<v Speaker 1>that's like going to a super Bowl party and then

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<v Speaker 1>going to fight. Yeah, like that item, that's like basically

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<v Speaker 1>what you're saying is you know, I'm gonna lose weight

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<v Speaker 1>to make weight, then I'm gonna go eat Thanksgiving meal

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<v Speaker 1>and then after thanks given a lunch, I'm gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>fight that night. How is that possible? So it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>just water manipulation and like sodium manipulation. So you so

0:27:05.119 --> 0:27:06.920
<v Speaker 1>in a training camp is about eight weeks when you

0:27:06.920 --> 0:27:09.960
<v Speaker 1>get ready for a fight, and uh so I'm I'm

0:27:10.040 --> 0:27:13.040
<v Speaker 1>naturally around like two fifteen ish when I'm eating healthy,

0:27:13.160 --> 0:27:15.200
<v Speaker 1>and when I start training super hard and I bring

0:27:15.240 --> 0:27:18.520
<v Speaker 1>the portion control a little bit and you know, be

0:27:18.720 --> 0:27:20.720
<v Speaker 1>very strict, my weight will drop to like two or

0:27:20.760 --> 0:27:24.440
<v Speaker 1>five is and then to get down it's a it's

0:27:24.440 --> 0:27:26.960
<v Speaker 1>really a sodium manipulation where you have tons of salt

0:27:27.040 --> 0:27:29.320
<v Speaker 1>leading up about two or three weeks with your meals,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the week of the of when you're cutting

0:27:31.600 --> 0:27:33.840
<v Speaker 1>the weight, you just take out sodium completely. So you

0:27:33.880 --> 0:27:35.760
<v Speaker 1>still have you still have your meals, they might be

0:27:35.760 --> 0:27:38.359
<v Speaker 1>a little bit smaller in portion, but the fact that

0:27:38.400 --> 0:27:41.560
<v Speaker 1>you have no sodium and you're drinking gowns and gallons,

0:27:41.560 --> 0:27:44.280
<v Speaker 1>So you drink on a week before the fight, I'll

0:27:44.320 --> 0:27:46.600
<v Speaker 1>drink two gallons and the you know, the day after,

0:27:46.640 --> 0:27:48.600
<v Speaker 1>it's three gallons and three gowns. Again the next day

0:27:48.600 --> 0:27:50.440
<v Speaker 1>and then you drop it to a gallon and then

0:27:50.480 --> 0:27:52.880
<v Speaker 1>twenty four hours before the winds you have no water

0:27:52.960 --> 0:27:55.080
<v Speaker 1>at all. And just from doing that, I'll be like

0:27:55.560 --> 0:27:57.520
<v Speaker 1>two or four to oh five and and dropped like

0:27:59.000 --> 0:28:01.960
<v Speaker 1>and then from one five you just have to do like,

0:28:02.040 --> 0:28:04.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, get your sweat, you get sweat out, so

0:28:04.400 --> 0:28:07.439
<v Speaker 1>you do so onta work, you do, rubber suits, whatever

0:28:07.520 --> 0:28:10.240
<v Speaker 1>people do, makeup removers, whatever you gotta do, open up

0:28:10.240 --> 0:28:14.200
<v Speaker 1>your pores, so makeup removers. It's like they have things

0:28:14.200 --> 0:28:16.240
<v Speaker 1>called sweet sweat. Now used to be albumating you get

0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:18.639
<v Speaker 1>from CBS. But sweet sweat it opens up your poor

0:28:18.760 --> 0:28:22.000
<v Speaker 1>so you sweat easier. So when you're so deep, sweet sweat,

0:28:22.080 --> 0:28:25.359
<v Speaker 1>you said, makeup remove. Makeup removers is one of active

0:28:25.359 --> 0:28:27.600
<v Speaker 1>in grease. Sweet sweat is a new Sweet sweat is

0:28:27.640 --> 0:28:30.840
<v Speaker 1>a new name. It's a brand. But basically basically what's

0:28:30.960 --> 0:28:32.879
<v Speaker 1>what sweet sweat can do is do it make is

0:28:33.000 --> 0:28:35.680
<v Speaker 1>be a makeup remover, so opens up your pores, gets

0:28:35.760 --> 0:28:37.640
<v Speaker 1>rid of the makeup I guess in the face. And

0:28:37.920 --> 0:28:39.760
<v Speaker 1>before sweet Sweat came out, you would have to get

0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:45.360
<v Speaker 1>makeup removers. Now that sounds dangerous, yea. So then to

0:28:49.040 --> 0:28:50.880
<v Speaker 1>you gotta you know, you got doctors with you and

0:28:50.920 --> 0:28:53.640
<v Speaker 1>it's really quick. You know, it's you're really dehydrated for

0:28:53.640 --> 0:28:55.360
<v Speaker 1>about three hours. You want to try to cut the

0:28:55.360 --> 0:28:58.480
<v Speaker 1>weight as close to the weight, as as close to

0:28:58.480 --> 0:29:01.280
<v Speaker 1>the way in as possible. About three hours you cut

0:29:01.280 --> 0:29:03.880
<v Speaker 1>that weight out and you have no water. You're dehydrated.

0:29:03.880 --> 0:29:06.440
<v Speaker 1>It's terrible. And then you're able to replenish. And when

0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:08.960
<v Speaker 1>you replenish, ela sodium and everything that you start having

0:29:09.040 --> 0:29:10.959
<v Speaker 1>just sticks to you. So that's why you can put

0:29:11.000 --> 0:29:12.520
<v Speaker 1>the weight on so easy and you can have like

0:29:12.560 --> 0:29:15.480
<v Speaker 1>a super insolent spite right afterday. Oh yeah, well you

0:29:15.520 --> 0:29:19.480
<v Speaker 1>gotta Now. Nowadays, the UFC has some really good nutritionist

0:29:19.480 --> 0:29:21.160
<v Speaker 1>and they have it all planned out where there's a

0:29:21.160 --> 0:29:24.480
<v Speaker 1>certain amount of liquid you're allowed to drink throughout the

0:29:24.600 --> 0:29:26.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, every like fifteen minutes you have another ship

0:29:26.880 --> 0:29:28.440
<v Speaker 1>and so you don't chuck it and have a messed

0:29:28.520 --> 0:29:32.120
<v Speaker 1>up stomach and all that. So what does that do?

0:29:33.200 --> 0:29:36.680
<v Speaker 1>Another on the spot question, what does that due to

0:29:36.720 --> 0:29:42.440
<v Speaker 1>your kidneys? Uh? With that much fluid and processing and

0:29:42.440 --> 0:29:46.200
<v Speaker 1>then sodium and then and then taken away. Yeah, I

0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:51.120
<v Speaker 1>mean there's have you thought about it until you're trying

0:29:51.160 --> 0:29:53.080
<v Speaker 1>to be funny, I'm just I get it. No, man,

0:29:53.120 --> 0:29:56.000
<v Speaker 1>because you know that no people are that kidney failure

0:29:56.160 --> 0:29:59.400
<v Speaker 1>from overdoing it. So it is something that you have

0:29:59.480 --> 0:30:02.120
<v Speaker 1>to you have to get your weight down. The way

0:30:02.160 --> 0:30:04.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm explaining to you is doing it the right way

0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:05.960
<v Speaker 1>and doctors that's like the safe way of doing it.

0:30:06.000 --> 0:30:08.880
<v Speaker 1>I know it sounds extreme. There's way more extreme ways

0:30:08.880 --> 0:30:12.840
<v Speaker 1>to doing it without dieting properly. Yeah, that that's how

0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:16.560
<v Speaker 1>you really shut down your kidneys and then you just

0:30:16.600 --> 0:30:19.440
<v Speaker 1>go punch somebody lights out and then you gotta be

0:30:19.520 --> 0:30:23.040
<v Speaker 1>in you know, the best shape of your life. You know, uh,

0:30:23.120 --> 0:30:24.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, every fight is always the biggest fight of

0:30:24.760 --> 0:30:27.040
<v Speaker 1>your life and you have to perform. But you know

0:30:27.080 --> 0:30:29.400
<v Speaker 1>what it's like the whole fight week you kind of

0:30:29.440 --> 0:30:32.040
<v Speaker 1>like it. It's so relaxing. By the time you fight,

0:30:32.160 --> 0:30:43.720
<v Speaker 1>you feel is not relaxing right now, So I am chilling,

0:30:43.800 --> 0:30:46.239
<v Speaker 1>like I mean, other than you're suffering with the wake up,

0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:47.960
<v Speaker 1>but as far as the amount of workouts that you

0:30:47.960 --> 0:30:50.600
<v Speaker 1>have to do, the fight week is so chill compared

0:30:50.640 --> 0:30:52.920
<v Speaker 1>to every other week in a training camp. Wow. So

0:30:53.080 --> 0:30:56.560
<v Speaker 1>we have something in common. We have Well, we used

0:30:56.600 --> 0:31:00.520
<v Speaker 1>to you you're training with a jail you, sir, and

0:31:00.560 --> 0:31:04.560
<v Speaker 1>so we used to train with. Why Jan was I

0:31:04.560 --> 0:31:07.160
<v Speaker 1>didn't know Ja was training guys like you. You know,

0:31:07.200 --> 0:31:09.880
<v Speaker 1>what is that? How does a guy who trained me

0:31:09.920 --> 0:31:12.600
<v Speaker 1>and you trained me and football follose years and now

0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:14.360
<v Speaker 1>he trains you? What? What are so many things that

0:31:14.400 --> 0:31:18.360
<v Speaker 1>you guys are doing to help you? Uh? I don't

0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:20.120
<v Speaker 1>even know if the word is a child? But like,

0:31:20.200 --> 0:31:22.040
<v Speaker 1>what what do you got? A better athlete? Is just

0:31:22.080 --> 0:31:25.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of making me strong? Whoa, whoa? Whoa? Rewind that?

0:31:25.120 --> 0:31:31.320
<v Speaker 1>What did you just a better athlete? Okay, I appreciate you. Yeah,

0:31:31.320 --> 0:31:34.520
<v Speaker 1>I think just kind of it's cross training, you know,

0:31:34.680 --> 0:31:37.880
<v Speaker 1>so when you fight and when you're training for fighting,

0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:40.200
<v Speaker 1>it breaks down your body so much. And I think

0:31:40.360 --> 0:31:42.360
<v Speaker 1>the most important thing for strength training and why I

0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:43.800
<v Speaker 1>think a lot of guys should be doing it and

0:31:43.800 --> 0:31:46.440
<v Speaker 1>now they are, is that they're when you wait lift,

0:31:46.480 --> 0:31:49.040
<v Speaker 1>it strengthens your joints and all the muscles intends around it,

0:31:49.120 --> 0:31:53.240
<v Speaker 1>so less chance of injury and just helps you, you know,

0:31:53.600 --> 0:31:57.200
<v Speaker 1>stay on the grind without falling apart. But jet Jet

0:31:57.320 --> 0:31:59.560
<v Speaker 1>does a lot of stuff where like the serratus muscle,

0:31:59.640 --> 0:32:02.160
<v Speaker 1>which is this muscle back here, which is your punching muscle,

0:32:02.520 --> 0:32:04.920
<v Speaker 1>which I didn't know until Jed told me that. But like,

0:32:05.080 --> 0:32:07.920
<v Speaker 1>so working specifically on that, working on lake strength where

0:32:07.920 --> 0:32:09.720
<v Speaker 1>your power comes from, working on your core, where your

0:32:09.720 --> 0:32:12.600
<v Speaker 1>power comes from. So, um, you know he helps. He

0:32:12.640 --> 0:32:15.120
<v Speaker 1>works with the old at plus he makes it very hard.

0:32:15.480 --> 0:32:18.120
<v Speaker 1>Uh and and and just like without a break and

0:32:18.320 --> 0:32:20.200
<v Speaker 1>in a in a fight there's really no breaks. You know,

0:32:20.200 --> 0:32:23.720
<v Speaker 1>it's just NonStop. The pace is hard to control. Um,

0:32:23.760 --> 0:32:27.560
<v Speaker 1>so he helps with just cardio. What makes you stand

0:32:27.560 --> 0:32:30.600
<v Speaker 1>out in the UFC? Like, you know you have martial arts.

0:32:31.800 --> 0:32:34.240
<v Speaker 1>The average fan or the or a person that watches

0:32:34.280 --> 0:32:39.120
<v Speaker 1>it here and there looks at it's just it's fist fighting, right,

0:32:40.280 --> 0:32:42.320
<v Speaker 1>What what do you bring to the table that's different

0:32:42.320 --> 0:32:46.600
<v Speaker 1>than maybe saying kind of McGregor. Well, first I'll answer, like,

0:32:46.760 --> 0:32:49.920
<v Speaker 1>so martial arts uh m m A is mixed martial arts.

0:32:49.920 --> 0:32:52.239
<v Speaker 1>So it's pretty much every single martial art that's ever

0:32:52.240 --> 0:32:54.720
<v Speaker 1>been around, you know, uh, some of the traditional stuff.

0:32:54.800 --> 0:32:56.320
<v Speaker 1>So what are some of the traditional because I have

0:32:56.840 --> 0:33:02.960
<v Speaker 1>jiu jitsu, taekwondo, you know, kempo wrestling, Brazilian jiu jitsu,

0:33:03.040 --> 0:33:07.840
<v Speaker 1>regular jiu jitsu, boxing, kickboxing, mutai, all those would be

0:33:07.840 --> 0:33:10.520
<v Speaker 1>considered martial arts. There was a time in the beginning

0:33:10.520 --> 0:33:13.680
<v Speaker 1>of the UFC, where everyone if you were a wrestler,

0:33:13.800 --> 0:33:16.040
<v Speaker 1>or you were a boxer, or you were you know,

0:33:16.080 --> 0:33:18.160
<v Speaker 1>a jiu jitsu guy, you felt like your art was

0:33:18.200 --> 0:33:20.160
<v Speaker 1>the best and only one that needed to be done.

0:33:20.160 --> 0:33:22.160
<v Speaker 1>If you did karate, you could kick everybody's ast. You

0:33:22.160 --> 0:33:25.160
<v Speaker 1>don't need to worry about wrestling because you nee, that

0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:26.840
<v Speaker 1>guy in his mouth is someone I had taken down.

0:33:27.800 --> 0:33:30.400
<v Speaker 1>What mixed martial arts did through the years is evolved

0:33:30.400 --> 0:33:32.120
<v Speaker 1>at the point where you realize that every single one

0:33:32.120 --> 0:33:34.480
<v Speaker 1>of those martial arts have has this place in some degree.

0:33:34.520 --> 0:33:37.200
<v Speaker 1>You gotta find which parts of that martial art is

0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:40.800
<v Speaker 1>actually usable in a true fight. And so that's what

0:33:40.920 --> 0:33:44.080
<v Speaker 1>mixed martial arts has have evolved to now. Now it's

0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:46.560
<v Speaker 1>the point where like I started with a base of wrestling.

0:33:46.560 --> 0:33:48.240
<v Speaker 1>I did karate and stuff when I was a kid,

0:33:48.280 --> 0:33:52.040
<v Speaker 1>but basically my base was wrestling. In order for me

0:33:52.120 --> 0:33:53.880
<v Speaker 1>to evolve as a martial arts I had to learn

0:33:53.920 --> 0:33:56.320
<v Speaker 1>every single other martial art in order for me to

0:33:56.400 --> 0:33:59.000
<v Speaker 1>be able to use it and utilize and like what,

0:33:59.640 --> 0:34:01.840
<v Speaker 1>you know what all the train Yeah, so Brazilian jiu

0:34:01.880 --> 0:34:04.000
<v Speaker 1>jitsu and black bell and Brazilian jiu jitsu slight flex

0:34:04.840 --> 0:34:07.200
<v Speaker 1>other Henzel Gracie, Matt Sarah and John Danaher Well, it's

0:34:07.240 --> 0:34:11.280
<v Speaker 1>more flexiing to them, like they're unbelievable. Oh, Henzel Gracie,

0:34:11.440 --> 0:34:13.480
<v Speaker 1>you know the grayceis ever bring a bell? Yeah that

0:34:13.640 --> 0:34:22.120
<v Speaker 1>does okay, So as he's as he's telling us to

0:34:22.200 --> 0:34:24.920
<v Speaker 1>jump in. So the Graces are a family that are

0:34:25.120 --> 0:34:28.799
<v Speaker 1>known for training in a certain style of martial arts,

0:34:28.840 --> 0:34:33.000
<v Speaker 1>so Brazilian jiu jitsu. So what happened is when the

0:34:33.040 --> 0:34:36.239
<v Speaker 1>UFC first started, it was you know, the Brazilian jiu

0:34:36.280 --> 0:34:38.880
<v Speaker 1>jitsu people, which was the Graces versus you know, the

0:34:38.960 --> 0:34:41.880
<v Speaker 1>wrestler versus a boxer versus a kick boxer. And it

0:34:42.000 --> 0:34:44.200
<v Speaker 1>was a contest to see which art was truly the best,

0:34:44.880 --> 0:34:47.640
<v Speaker 1>and the Hoyce Gracie was the one. He was the

0:34:47.680 --> 0:34:50.080
<v Speaker 1>one that was chosen by the Gracie family to represent

0:34:50.160 --> 0:34:52.440
<v Speaker 1>Brazilian jiu jitsu against these other fighters that thought their

0:34:52.520 --> 0:34:55.840
<v Speaker 1>art was the best, and they picked the smallest in

0:34:55.880 --> 0:34:58.200
<v Speaker 1>their family, this guy named Hoyce Gracie. He was small,

0:34:58.280 --> 0:34:59.960
<v Speaker 1>nothing to look at and he was gonna be fighting guy.

0:35:00.000 --> 0:35:01.520
<v Speaker 1>As I think one of the guys was like were

0:35:01.840 --> 0:35:04.840
<v Speaker 1>close to five hundred pounds. Is it on YouTube? I

0:35:04.960 --> 0:35:06.880
<v Speaker 1>think you can find all this on YouTube, thank you,

0:35:07.280 --> 0:35:10.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah you can get it or probably UFC Fight pass Actually,

0:35:10.239 --> 0:35:14.960
<v Speaker 1>to be honest, so passed memberships like that. Let me

0:35:15.040 --> 0:35:16.719
<v Speaker 1>jump going on the free stop. I don't I don't

0:35:16.760 --> 0:35:19.440
<v Speaker 1>want to glance over what he just said. Yeah, that

0:35:19.800 --> 0:35:24.480
<v Speaker 1>family took their so called air quotes weakest dude in

0:35:24.520 --> 0:35:30.040
<v Speaker 1>their family and put him in there five tens. Like

0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:33.319
<v Speaker 1>he's small, he's like a hundred seventy five pounds, five ten,

0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:37.480
<v Speaker 1>and he's finding some monsters. And what happened he finished

0:35:37.480 --> 0:35:40.680
<v Speaker 1>everybody sleep though he broke Well, so what it is

0:35:41.960 --> 0:35:44.440
<v Speaker 1>is the art. It's like a jet. It's considered a

0:35:44.480 --> 0:35:51.440
<v Speaker 1>gentle art, and so it's gentle knot very kind of mildly. Well,

0:35:51.480 --> 0:35:53.680
<v Speaker 1>there's no knockouts. That's the That's the crazy thing about

0:35:53.719 --> 0:35:56.200
<v Speaker 1>president jujitsu is it's you're not knocking the guy out.

0:35:56.600 --> 0:35:58.880
<v Speaker 1>You're using like it's actually meant for smaller people to

0:35:58.920 --> 0:36:05.600
<v Speaker 1>beat up bigger people. It's it's all the submission. So

0:36:05.640 --> 0:36:07.959
<v Speaker 1>it's like arm bars and stuff that you've seen that's

0:36:08.080 --> 0:36:09.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's putting one half of your body on

0:36:09.960 --> 0:36:12.040
<v Speaker 1>one side of his arm, one half on the one

0:36:12.080 --> 0:36:13.600
<v Speaker 1>half of your body on the other side of the arm,

0:36:13.960 --> 0:36:15.759
<v Speaker 1>and now you're you're pulling that arm and you're gonna

0:36:15.760 --> 0:36:18.040
<v Speaker 1>break it. There's not there's nobody who's big enough for

0:36:18.080 --> 0:36:21.480
<v Speaker 1>strong enough to curl in that situation. So even a girl,

0:36:21.600 --> 0:36:23.919
<v Speaker 1>if she learns correctly, will break someone's arm who doesn't

0:36:23.920 --> 0:36:26.480
<v Speaker 1>know how to defend it. Oh wow, yeah, which is crazy.

0:36:26.600 --> 0:36:28.479
<v Speaker 1>So that's what Brazilian just you brought to the table

0:36:28.680 --> 0:36:30.680
<v Speaker 1>and the way it's evolved over the years. At first,

0:36:30.880 --> 0:36:33.080
<v Speaker 1>when that came out, like no matter who was going

0:36:33.120 --> 0:36:35.480
<v Speaker 1>against this guy, you know, Hoyce Grazer, one of the gracis,

0:36:35.719 --> 0:36:38.280
<v Speaker 1>they were dominating and submitting them, choking people out, breaking

0:36:38.320 --> 0:36:40.560
<v Speaker 1>people's arms, and nobody knew how to defend it. They

0:36:40.600 --> 0:36:42.640
<v Speaker 1>started like realizing, no, I need to learn this stuff.

0:36:43.120 --> 0:36:45.800
<v Speaker 1>Night night. Yeah. Yeah, but you did start to go

0:36:45.880 --> 0:36:48.319
<v Speaker 1>down the path of you said, wrestling with your base

0:36:48.360 --> 0:36:50.239
<v Speaker 1>and then you evolve, you learn, you have you now

0:36:50.320 --> 0:36:53.359
<v Speaker 1>been able to evolve your fighting style now being um,

0:36:53.640 --> 0:36:56.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, multi time champion in the UFC, How how

0:36:56.480 --> 0:36:59.440
<v Speaker 1>did that fight style evolve when you as you're coming

0:36:59.520 --> 0:37:02.600
<v Speaker 1>up the ranking systems as just a wrestler with some boxing.

0:37:02.719 --> 0:37:05.200
<v Speaker 1>With some jiu jitsu, you could get by with taking

0:37:05.239 --> 0:37:08.080
<v Speaker 1>guys down. But as as the sport progresses and you

0:37:08.160 --> 0:37:11.120
<v Speaker 1>start going with higher talent, you have to start knowing everything.

0:37:11.239 --> 0:37:14.600
<v Speaker 1>So would you would you say that that's as you

0:37:14.680 --> 0:37:17.640
<v Speaker 1>get older, that's what's kind of you know, not to

0:37:17.680 --> 0:37:19.520
<v Speaker 1>put you on the spot by him. Is that what

0:37:19.760 --> 0:37:22.839
<v Speaker 1>has really slowed down kind of McGregor a little bit

0:37:22.920 --> 0:37:27.279
<v Speaker 1>because I don't really see him really, he doesn't. He's

0:37:27.360 --> 0:37:32.279
<v Speaker 1>not known for having the martial arts background, I mean

0:37:32.600 --> 0:37:35.040
<v Speaker 1>not to my untrained ID, but he seems like more

0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:38.279
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't really he doesn't really wrestle much. He's just

0:37:38.400 --> 0:37:40.759
<v Speaker 1>more of a punching he's so he's more of a

0:37:40.880 --> 0:37:44.480
<v Speaker 1>he started he started from a boxing base and karate,

0:37:44.640 --> 0:37:46.680
<v Speaker 1>so he's more of a stand up guy. He does

0:37:46.840 --> 0:37:49.600
<v Speaker 1>obviously train jiu jitsu and wrestling everything like that, because

0:37:49.760 --> 0:37:52.439
<v Speaker 1>the guy sees fighting, are you know, topnox world class dudes,

0:37:52.840 --> 0:37:55.480
<v Speaker 1>So he asked to, you know, but not to not

0:37:55.920 --> 0:38:00.680
<v Speaker 1>to not proficient and mastering is two different things things. Yeah,

0:38:00.719 --> 0:38:04.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't. He's not He's not going to dominate a

0:38:04.680 --> 0:38:07.319
<v Speaker 1>world class guy on the floor with jiu jitsu. He's

0:38:07.320 --> 0:38:09.400
<v Speaker 1>not going to dominate a world class guy in wrestling

0:38:10.360 --> 0:38:12.799
<v Speaker 1>and boxing. He can, you know, And so I think

0:38:12.920 --> 0:38:14.880
<v Speaker 1>that now if he could get his takedown defense to

0:38:14.920 --> 0:38:17.120
<v Speaker 1>the point where he could stop takedowns and finished keep

0:38:17.160 --> 0:38:20.040
<v Speaker 1>guys standing, that's kind of like how it how you evolved.

0:38:20.920 --> 0:38:24.840
<v Speaker 1>He's a martial artist, but he's primarily more of a

0:38:24.960 --> 0:38:27.319
<v Speaker 1>boxer inside the occagon. But now if he was fighting

0:38:27.360 --> 0:38:29.400
<v Speaker 1>a better boxer than him, he would definitely have the

0:38:29.440 --> 0:38:31.200
<v Speaker 1>tools to take the guy down and let kick him

0:38:31.280 --> 0:38:36.200
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. It is. Good, good, good, let's getting down

0:38:36.280 --> 0:38:41.200
<v Speaker 1>to good. Hey Gerard, why didn't you get that T shirt?

0:38:41.320 --> 0:38:43.680
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0:38:51.440 --> 0:38:55.759
<v Speaker 1>subscribe to us wherever you listen to podcasts. So what

0:38:56.000 --> 0:39:01.400
<v Speaker 1>is martial arts done done for you personally? I mean, shoot,

0:39:02.000 --> 0:39:05.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm I guess uh. You know, it gave me a goal,

0:39:05.560 --> 0:39:08.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, of becoming a world champion and something um

0:39:09.360 --> 0:39:13.200
<v Speaker 1>and you know taught me, you know, told me a lot,

0:39:13.320 --> 0:39:16.680
<v Speaker 1>told me you know, discipline and hard work and respect

0:39:17.000 --> 0:39:19.680
<v Speaker 1>and you know, being humble, A lot of that, A

0:39:19.760 --> 0:39:23.040
<v Speaker 1>lot of that, A lot of those, um, those attributes

0:39:23.239 --> 0:39:25.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of stem for martial arts. How do you balance?

0:39:26.840 --> 0:39:30.160
<v Speaker 1>Because you see guys that martial arts or m M

0:39:30.239 --> 0:39:36.279
<v Speaker 1>a UFC, they're so I don't even know the right word,

0:39:36.320 --> 0:39:39.239
<v Speaker 1>but they just kind of they're just quiet storms, right,

0:39:39.360 --> 0:39:42.880
<v Speaker 1>you see him and you see you'll see videos here

0:39:42.920 --> 0:39:47.000
<v Speaker 1>and there sometimes where someone at the bar is trying

0:39:47.080 --> 0:39:49.480
<v Speaker 1>the wrong guy who ends up being a martial arts

0:39:49.520 --> 0:39:57.439
<v Speaker 1>guy and just gets let me unfold this one for you. Yeah,

0:39:57.960 --> 0:39:59.879
<v Speaker 1>and you seem like one of those guys, Like even

0:40:00.000 --> 0:40:03.760
<v Speaker 1>and I met you, you're just kind of like just nonchalant.

0:40:04.440 --> 0:40:08.960
<v Speaker 1>But yet you know, watching some of your stuff like

0:40:09.600 --> 0:40:14.120
<v Speaker 1>get in that switch, right that switch and even just

0:40:14.239 --> 0:40:16.400
<v Speaker 1>me joking around with you, it's like you're joking but

0:40:16.480 --> 0:40:18.560
<v Speaker 1>then you're going like, hey, is this guy trying me?

0:40:18.680 --> 0:40:22.920
<v Speaker 1>And it's just that that balance, you know, that balance? Right?

0:40:24.080 --> 0:40:27.200
<v Speaker 1>How do you? How do you? How how does your

0:40:27.280 --> 0:40:32.840
<v Speaker 1>mind and your body decipher between that um, that calmness

0:40:33.000 --> 0:40:35.839
<v Speaker 1>and then that that that rage is in there? Um

0:40:36.760 --> 0:40:38.680
<v Speaker 1>because you have more days that you're not in the

0:40:38.719 --> 0:40:42.879
<v Speaker 1>octagon then you are in the octagon. Yeah, I think

0:40:42.960 --> 0:40:46.520
<v Speaker 1>I you know, I used to get to the point

0:40:46.560 --> 0:40:49.440
<v Speaker 1>if I felt like someone disrespect me, just just because

0:40:49.560 --> 0:40:52.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, that's the way I was raised. If someone

0:40:52.560 --> 0:40:54.800
<v Speaker 1>disrespects me, like I had to put them in their place.

0:40:55.480 --> 0:40:58.920
<v Speaker 1>And then as I got older and as I got

0:40:58.960 --> 0:41:01.800
<v Speaker 1>more confident in my self, as like, you know what

0:41:01.960 --> 0:41:04.239
<v Speaker 1>I could do to them and is it worth it? Uh?

0:41:06.239 --> 0:41:07.960
<v Speaker 1>But also find the interest because as you got older,

0:41:07.960 --> 0:41:12.759
<v Speaker 1>you acquired more steals. Yeah, but not to use them

0:41:12.840 --> 0:41:16.359
<v Speaker 1>on people like you know you want to. It's you're

0:41:16.360 --> 0:41:18.000
<v Speaker 1>being a bully at that point. So you know, it's

0:41:18.000 --> 0:41:20.080
<v Speaker 1>not like I'm gonna get anything out of unless I'm

0:41:20.080 --> 0:41:22.239
<v Speaker 1>protecting my family. You know, I'm not gonna put my

0:41:22.280 --> 0:41:25.520
<v Speaker 1>hands on anybody that that would be my goal? Even

0:41:25.640 --> 0:41:27.560
<v Speaker 1>what was that? What was I just saying? What we're

0:41:27.640 --> 0:41:31.640
<v Speaker 1>just saying basically basically is how do you how do

0:41:31.719 --> 0:41:34.680
<v Speaker 1>you basically manage that switch from where you are a

0:41:34.800 --> 0:41:38.200
<v Speaker 1>naturally you're a naturally some calm guy, but then when

0:41:38.200 --> 0:41:40.840
<v Speaker 1>you go into the octagon. I got to check somebody

0:41:41.680 --> 0:41:44.279
<v Speaker 1>even and even practice. Yeah, that's a great question, I know,

0:41:44.440 --> 0:41:47.480
<v Speaker 1>and I'm sorry I forgot. Um, it's just just one

0:41:47.480 --> 0:41:49.360
<v Speaker 1>of those like you know, I met you you know,

0:41:49.440 --> 0:41:52.239
<v Speaker 1>I met you and we've had some conversations even talking

0:41:52.280 --> 0:41:55.560
<v Speaker 1>on the phone. You're great then, you know obviously mean

0:41:55.600 --> 0:41:58.239
<v Speaker 1>you're a person even coming on here, I can see,

0:41:58.239 --> 0:41:59.759
<v Speaker 1>even me joking around with you, I could see a

0:41:59.800 --> 0:42:01.759
<v Speaker 1>little bit of like he he like all right now,

0:42:03.920 --> 0:42:06.120
<v Speaker 1>just a little bit. But it's and and and that's

0:42:06.200 --> 0:42:08.880
<v Speaker 1>part of just as being athletes are like, hey, you know,

0:42:08.960 --> 0:42:10.960
<v Speaker 1>what's the angle of this person? You know? And I

0:42:11.320 --> 0:42:15.600
<v Speaker 1>because we do get I believe sometimes as athletes, when

0:42:15.680 --> 0:42:21.480
<v Speaker 1>we come on stuff, sometimes people uh misrepresent themselves, right,

0:42:21.560 --> 0:42:26.160
<v Speaker 1>they misrepresent the authenticity of the concept of whatever the

0:42:26.239 --> 0:42:29.879
<v Speaker 1>interview is. They say some things that you're like, come on, man,

0:42:30.160 --> 0:42:34.040
<v Speaker 1>like we talked about this and and so that's why

0:42:34.040 --> 0:42:35.560
<v Speaker 1>I was asked because I saw a little bit because

0:42:35.560 --> 0:42:39.040
<v Speaker 1>I've been in that same position, like I'm waiting for it. Wait,

0:42:39.560 --> 0:42:42.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm waiting for the nonsense. And so I just picked

0:42:42.920 --> 0:42:46.120
<v Speaker 1>that up from you just because you're still in it

0:42:46.239 --> 0:42:49.080
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not in it anymore, and I don't have

0:42:49.360 --> 0:42:53.160
<v Speaker 1>anything that to some degree that's actually I feel like,

0:42:53.320 --> 0:42:57.640
<v Speaker 1>but it's not the truth of any value to that person.

0:42:57.760 --> 0:43:00.680
<v Speaker 1>But when you're doing sports and you been part of

0:43:00.800 --> 0:43:04.399
<v Speaker 1>that sport, especially now as retired players are almost coming

0:43:04.440 --> 0:43:08.000
<v Speaker 1>across like let me just feel the beans on everything now, right,

0:43:08.840 --> 0:43:12.279
<v Speaker 1>And so man, I mean every every now, every time

0:43:12.360 --> 0:43:15.960
<v Speaker 1>you turn on a former players talking about what they

0:43:16.080 --> 0:43:18.480
<v Speaker 1>experienced and how they experienced it with this team, and

0:43:18.600 --> 0:43:21.439
<v Speaker 1>let me tell you know how fraudulent this this coach

0:43:21.640 --> 0:43:24.960
<v Speaker 1>was or with this team or this organization. So that's

0:43:25.000 --> 0:43:27.960
<v Speaker 1>why I mean it just comes into now, is uh.

0:43:28.680 --> 0:43:33.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean clickbait. It's not anymore of authenticity of the individuals,

0:43:33.640 --> 0:43:37.200
<v Speaker 1>more of what is the individual? What can the individual

0:43:37.400 --> 0:43:43.120
<v Speaker 1>give me that people go oh, absolutely yeah, trying to

0:43:43.160 --> 0:43:44.719
<v Speaker 1>think what I said in this entity that's going to

0:43:44.760 --> 0:43:49.640
<v Speaker 1>be really good clu. It's it's it's it's authentic, it's you,

0:43:50.040 --> 0:43:53.840
<v Speaker 1>you know. Like I asked about McGregor, just in regards

0:43:53.920 --> 0:43:59.480
<v Speaker 1>of comparing he's not the he's he. First of all,

0:44:00.719 --> 0:44:04.320
<v Speaker 1>he's not nobody. He's someone that's big enough sport. However,

0:44:05.160 --> 0:44:09.560
<v Speaker 1>there are other guys who seem to have a more

0:44:09.680 --> 0:44:15.160
<v Speaker 1>wide range and just handle on the martial arts just

0:44:15.360 --> 0:44:19.360
<v Speaker 1>by how they conduct themselves. Some people may be better grapplers,

0:44:19.440 --> 0:44:23.120
<v Speaker 1>some people standing up, but but more I could you

0:44:23.239 --> 0:44:25.640
<v Speaker 1>can tell some of the guys how they conduct themselves

0:44:25.800 --> 0:44:30.480
<v Speaker 1>on and off off the field, and how they you know,

0:44:30.600 --> 0:44:33.680
<v Speaker 1>what they do and how they do it. It's just different. Absolutely.

0:44:34.239 --> 0:44:36.120
<v Speaker 1>And when you say that, do you do you remember

0:44:36.160 --> 0:44:38.759
<v Speaker 1>could be before? Could be? Did you watch that fight?

0:44:39.239 --> 0:44:41.200
<v Speaker 1>Kind of? I can? I can not my head, but

0:44:41.320 --> 0:44:46.160
<v Speaker 1>I know he's a very disciplined, humble dude. He's from Dagastan,

0:44:46.400 --> 0:44:50.000
<v Speaker 1>it's the outskirts of Russia. Yes, ye, Muslim country. He's

0:44:50.080 --> 0:44:54.680
<v Speaker 1>very disciplined. He doesn't drink, he's not he's not short. Yeah,

0:44:54.880 --> 0:44:58.640
<v Speaker 1>he's looked like he has woken up looking for as

0:44:58.840 --> 0:45:01.360
<v Speaker 1>as they say, you know, it's actually in our culture

0:45:01.400 --> 0:45:03.680
<v Speaker 1>black holds. You're like, man, I'm look. I hope somebody

0:45:03.760 --> 0:45:08.520
<v Speaker 1>trying me to do I wish him would you my seat?

0:45:08.640 --> 0:45:11.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't hope, I wish you know, you're walking. I

0:45:12.320 --> 0:45:15.120
<v Speaker 1>hope someone on my seat. Yeah, he's not the dude

0:45:15.160 --> 0:45:17.239
<v Speaker 1>you walk up in the bar like when you see him, Man,

0:45:17.239 --> 0:45:18.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't getting near that. Yeah, you're like, is that

0:45:19.040 --> 0:45:22.759
<v Speaker 1>my seat? There's videos of him wrestling a bear at

0:45:22.840 --> 0:45:31.840
<v Speaker 1>like seven years old. That a brother. So now you

0:45:32.080 --> 0:45:36.480
<v Speaker 1>you're you're veteran, your thirty seven you mentioned how do

0:45:36.560 --> 0:45:39.440
<v Speaker 1>you approach fights now being a more veteran fighter, what's

0:45:39.480 --> 0:45:42.120
<v Speaker 1>your approach now you know, as you're as you as

0:45:42.160 --> 0:45:48.799
<v Speaker 1>you send it into UFC ranks. Yeah, um, just work hard,

0:45:48.880 --> 0:45:50.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, there was there's just a lot of learning

0:45:50.719 --> 0:45:52.600
<v Speaker 1>I've had throughout my whole career, you know, through the

0:45:52.719 --> 0:45:55.400
<v Speaker 1>ups and downs of knowing what worked for me and

0:45:55.520 --> 0:45:57.560
<v Speaker 1>what didn't, and then just trying to be on the

0:45:57.760 --> 0:46:00.480
<v Speaker 1>on a consistent page of doing the things that have

0:46:00.640 --> 0:46:03.400
<v Speaker 1>worked for me, which is doing more and not less.

0:46:03.680 --> 0:46:06.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, when I was a champion for a while there, Um,

0:46:06.560 --> 0:46:08.759
<v Speaker 1>after my second title defense, I started again to the

0:46:08.800 --> 0:46:11.200
<v Speaker 1>point where, um, I started doing less. You know, I

0:46:11.280 --> 0:46:13.480
<v Speaker 1>was worried about getting injured. You know, so I figured

0:46:13.560 --> 0:46:15.719
<v Speaker 1>less training, less chance of getting injured, because there was

0:46:15.719 --> 0:46:17.560
<v Speaker 1>a couple of fights I had back out of due

0:46:17.560 --> 0:46:19.520
<v Speaker 1>to an injury. So there's a lot of criticism, always

0:46:19.560 --> 0:46:22.239
<v Speaker 1>injury prone and he's not gonna you know, he's not

0:46:22.320 --> 0:46:24.759
<v Speaker 1>defending his title enough, blah blah blah. So then you

0:46:24.800 --> 0:46:27.120
<v Speaker 1>get to the point where you want to, uh, maybe

0:46:27.200 --> 0:46:29.120
<v Speaker 1>I was doing less. I you know, I had, I

0:46:29.400 --> 0:46:32.000
<v Speaker 1>had money, I had you know, going out to nice dinners.

0:46:32.080 --> 0:46:33.719
<v Speaker 1>You know, for the first time, all the time, you know,

0:46:33.840 --> 0:46:36.000
<v Speaker 1>and I just I was loving that life. And so

0:46:36.800 --> 0:46:38.560
<v Speaker 1>it got to the point of I started doing less,

0:46:38.680 --> 0:46:40.800
<v Speaker 1>not more, and then I had my and then I

0:46:40.880 --> 0:46:43.240
<v Speaker 1>had a victory won, and I want a title defense.

0:46:43.320 --> 0:46:46.719
<v Speaker 1>Do like kind of having those habits and gave me

0:46:46.760 --> 0:46:49.680
<v Speaker 1>a positive reinforcement on that, and that's where I think

0:46:49.760 --> 0:46:52.760
<v Speaker 1>led to me starting to lose and having my first loss,

0:46:53.280 --> 0:46:55.440
<v Speaker 1>and um, and then since then it's got to a

0:46:55.520 --> 0:46:57.720
<v Speaker 1>point where like I had to be honest with myself

0:46:57.800 --> 0:46:59.680
<v Speaker 1>and acknowledge that and then get to the point where

0:46:59.680 --> 0:47:02.000
<v Speaker 1>I change that kind of go back to the old ways,

0:47:02.640 --> 0:47:05.440
<v Speaker 1>not obviously killing myself, not as young as I used

0:47:05.480 --> 0:47:07.600
<v Speaker 1>to be. I'm not training you know, you know, nine

0:47:07.680 --> 0:47:09.959
<v Speaker 1>hours a day, but doing in a smart way, working

0:47:10.000 --> 0:47:14.279
<v Speaker 1>on my techniques. Um. It's interesting with fighting and you know,

0:47:14.520 --> 0:47:17.560
<v Speaker 1>right now there's you know, two guys over thirty five

0:47:17.600 --> 0:47:21.640
<v Speaker 1>of that are champion. There's one guy's forty two as

0:47:21.680 --> 0:47:23.799
<v Speaker 1>a champion. And you don't really see that in any

0:47:23.880 --> 0:47:27.239
<v Speaker 1>other sports, including boxing. And it's because mixed martial arts

0:47:27.280 --> 0:47:30.760
<v Speaker 1>there's so many martial arts involved that experience is so important.

0:47:30.800 --> 0:47:32.439
<v Speaker 1>It's not like you could be you know that young

0:47:32.520 --> 0:47:34.800
<v Speaker 1>athlete that comes in. He's you know, super athletic, and

0:47:35.320 --> 0:47:37.040
<v Speaker 1>you know he has a good grasp of martial arts

0:47:37.080 --> 0:47:39.920
<v Speaker 1>and he's gonna do really good. But uh, that guy

0:47:40.040 --> 0:47:42.080
<v Speaker 1>is not. It's gonna be really hard and it's very

0:47:42.200 --> 0:47:43.920
<v Speaker 1>rare for that guy to become a champion, you know,

0:47:44.040 --> 0:47:49.680
<v Speaker 1>early on, because of because the lack of experience. Experience

0:47:49.800 --> 0:47:52.080
<v Speaker 1>is really so important how to deal with the nerves,

0:47:52.400 --> 0:47:55.160
<v Speaker 1>um and uh, and also all the different techniques that

0:47:55.200 --> 0:47:56.839
<v Speaker 1>you've gotta learn in order to be a martial arts

0:47:57.360 --> 0:48:01.400
<v Speaker 1>so almost like the the mental advantage, mental advantage, and

0:48:01.440 --> 0:48:03.560
<v Speaker 1>then when it and then when it comes to me. Um,

0:48:03.640 --> 0:48:05.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, I broke my leg in last April, you know,

0:48:05.520 --> 0:48:08.799
<v Speaker 1>so I'm just I'm recovering and just trying to get

0:48:08.840 --> 0:48:11.000
<v Speaker 1>myself back to where I need to be for this

0:48:11.160 --> 0:48:13.839
<v Speaker 1>next fight. How did you break your leg? I mean,

0:48:13.880 --> 0:48:17.160
<v Speaker 1>I know how you broke it, but like walking through Yeah,

0:48:17.320 --> 0:48:21.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna walk you through it. I can't walk. Thanks.

0:48:23.160 --> 0:48:25.040
<v Speaker 1>We have a Matt set up after this. He's gonna

0:48:25.080 --> 0:48:30.800
<v Speaker 1>work on in my contract. But you can take that

0:48:30.920 --> 0:48:33.000
<v Speaker 1>one all you want. It's a gentle art. I got

0:48:33.080 --> 0:48:37.480
<v Speaker 1>this thing after gentle. It's gentle bro, I got a

0:48:37.520 --> 0:48:46.319
<v Speaker 1>medical condition, you got picks, I got tags? Oh man, uh,

0:48:46.640 --> 0:48:50.440
<v Speaker 1>what was the question? I didn't ask one here? What

0:48:51.840 --> 0:48:54.800
<v Speaker 1>do you think about CT? Like sometimes when I lose stuff,

0:48:55.680 --> 0:48:59.400
<v Speaker 1>I like is this CT? Oh yeah? But then I'm like, no,

0:48:59.560 --> 0:49:05.560
<v Speaker 1>it's miss So I mean, what do you think? What?

0:49:05.760 --> 0:49:08.960
<v Speaker 1>What do you think? What do you personally think about

0:49:10.080 --> 0:49:15.800
<v Speaker 1>a sport where I mean it's pretty head contact is

0:49:15.960 --> 0:49:20.439
<v Speaker 1>it is pretty not as bad as of course, but yeah, yeah,

0:49:21.440 --> 0:49:23.640
<v Speaker 1>it is brutal. It is a brutal sport. And I've

0:49:23.680 --> 0:49:27.680
<v Speaker 1>seen guys who definitely have C T e UM and

0:49:27.760 --> 0:49:29.480
<v Speaker 1>it's sad. It's sad to see it. I'm sure you've

0:49:29.480 --> 0:49:32.960
<v Speaker 1>seen in football and you guys players. Now, I don't know,

0:49:33.400 --> 0:49:36.799
<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't really think right now where I'm at,

0:49:36.840 --> 0:49:39.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't really know if I would bump up against

0:49:39.760 --> 0:49:44.279
<v Speaker 1>the guy who has CT. Most men, and I would

0:49:44.280 --> 0:49:51.239
<v Speaker 1>say women to playing professional sports at even college high level, Well,

0:49:51.320 --> 0:49:54.160
<v Speaker 1>there's some folks they just off in general. Yeah, I

0:49:54.200 --> 0:49:57.560
<v Speaker 1>was gonna, how how do you know? Because they're like,

0:49:57.640 --> 0:50:00.360
<v Speaker 1>think about it. There's there's movies where we all like

0:50:00.760 --> 0:50:03.360
<v Speaker 1>when we laugh in joke, there's always that one family

0:50:03.440 --> 0:50:07.040
<v Speaker 1>member that is the black sheep or somebody that does

0:50:07.120 --> 0:50:10.600
<v Speaker 1>some things that just go man, cousin ge you know,

0:50:11.080 --> 0:50:14.359
<v Speaker 1>or cousin Ricky or you know, there's always that one

0:50:14.440 --> 0:50:20.800
<v Speaker 1>person who didn't play sports. It didn't play sports. So

0:50:20.960 --> 0:50:23.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm just wondering, you know. And I know in college

0:50:23.880 --> 0:50:26.279
<v Speaker 1>there was always one or two guys that were on

0:50:26.360 --> 0:50:29.600
<v Speaker 1>the team in college that you were like, like, not

0:50:29.800 --> 0:50:32.560
<v Speaker 1>that the brother got hit or anything. He didn't even play,

0:50:32.680 --> 0:50:35.760
<v Speaker 1>but there was reasons why they didn't go to class

0:50:35.920 --> 0:50:39.440
<v Speaker 1>or they didn't play. They were always in the way

0:50:39.480 --> 0:50:43.200
<v Speaker 1>of themselves. And so I'll just you know, I can't

0:50:43.239 --> 0:50:47.719
<v Speaker 1>really say that that individual the elevator didn't go up

0:50:47.719 --> 0:50:51.560
<v Speaker 1>to the top the way before he strapped on a

0:50:51.680 --> 0:50:56.480
<v Speaker 1>helmet and shoulder pass, that they just something was different

0:50:56.600 --> 0:51:00.800
<v Speaker 1>and unique about them before they play sports. Now, sports

0:51:00.920 --> 0:51:03.799
<v Speaker 1>maybe gave them my identity, but I wouldn't necessarily say, oh,

0:51:04.000 --> 0:51:06.720
<v Speaker 1>that was CT or that that was a head condition.

0:51:06.880 --> 0:51:10.600
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes people are just uh, you know, unique and different

0:51:10.680 --> 0:51:14.560
<v Speaker 1>and odd, and you know, there's I mean, there's some

0:51:14.640 --> 0:51:16.920
<v Speaker 1>people in the housing industry that me and G used

0:51:16.920 --> 0:51:21.359
<v Speaker 1>to work with that brother didn't play no sports, right,

0:51:21.560 --> 0:51:25.239
<v Speaker 1>and it just just something was missing in their life,

0:51:26.960 --> 0:51:28.520
<v Speaker 1>and I don't want to. I don't and I don't

0:51:28.640 --> 0:51:33.920
<v Speaker 1>like using like said, oh CT or this or you know,

0:51:34.239 --> 0:51:36.880
<v Speaker 1>that'd be like somebody you know, just like when somebody doesn't,

0:51:37.880 --> 0:51:40.400
<v Speaker 1>I can't pay attention to oh that that a d

0:51:40.520 --> 0:51:43.200
<v Speaker 1>D person without knowing if they have a diagnosis or

0:51:43.239 --> 0:51:46.440
<v Speaker 1>not exactly. So that's why that's why I asked. Because

0:51:46.520 --> 0:51:50.520
<v Speaker 1>of you know, head injuries. Like I was talking to

0:51:50.600 --> 0:51:54.760
<v Speaker 1>a doctor one time and they said, a concussion technically

0:51:54.880 --> 0:51:57.880
<v Speaker 1>is when you see that little you know, when you

0:51:57.960 --> 0:52:00.880
<v Speaker 1>hit your head, that little flicker, know how many times

0:52:02.040 --> 0:52:06.160
<v Speaker 1>like you didn't hit your head that technically that's considered

0:52:06.200 --> 0:52:09.000
<v Speaker 1>a concussion, right, or you leave the cabin open and

0:52:09.280 --> 0:52:14.239
<v Speaker 1>bunk right technically that you know, So you don't know

0:52:14.360 --> 0:52:18.239
<v Speaker 1>how many times one is has had a brain has

0:52:18.320 --> 0:52:21.320
<v Speaker 1>had a what they call a brain injury, or you know,

0:52:21.719 --> 0:52:26.640
<v Speaker 1>some sort of trauma, so something some sort type of trauma, right,

0:52:26.760 --> 0:52:30.360
<v Speaker 1>thinking how many kids have fallen right learning to walk?

0:52:31.080 --> 0:52:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Kids who have fallen out of chairs or falling off

0:52:33.960 --> 0:52:38.120
<v Speaker 1>a chair or uh, you know, falling down the steps

0:52:38.200 --> 0:52:40.960
<v Speaker 1>or whatever the case may be. You're making a good

0:52:41.000 --> 0:52:44.640
<v Speaker 1>point now, is what do you think though? Do you

0:52:44.719 --> 0:52:48.080
<v Speaker 1>think that there, you're just saying it's hard to diagnose

0:52:48.160 --> 0:52:50.560
<v Speaker 1>who really has CT and who doesn't Like this, we

0:52:50.600 --> 0:52:52.640
<v Speaker 1>don't They don't think they have a method right now

0:52:52.840 --> 0:52:56.560
<v Speaker 1>until you until someone and they test the brain afterwards,

0:52:56.600 --> 0:52:59.120
<v Speaker 1>and that's when you get But you also don't you

0:52:59.239 --> 0:53:02.040
<v Speaker 1>also don't know how many times, Like think about it,

0:53:03.239 --> 0:53:06.520
<v Speaker 1>if a kid has played football his senior year in

0:53:06.600 --> 0:53:14.120
<v Speaker 1>high school, but his play soccer from four years old too,

0:53:14.920 --> 0:53:16.840
<v Speaker 1>from four years all the way to his you know,

0:53:17.000 --> 0:53:22.200
<v Speaker 1>middle school days, and there's an excellent forward who's who's

0:53:22.239 --> 0:53:26.400
<v Speaker 1>had a thirty two goals, aheader does everything bicycle kicks,

0:53:27.520 --> 0:53:29.359
<v Speaker 1>and then he goes and it becomes a pretty good

0:53:29.360 --> 0:53:33.640
<v Speaker 1>football player. We don't know how many times those those

0:53:33.719 --> 0:53:37.839
<v Speaker 1>headers have impacted the brain. I agree with that, Well, yeah,

0:53:37.880 --> 0:53:41.280
<v Speaker 1>it's hard to get really like a good uh understanding

0:53:41.320 --> 0:53:43.960
<v Speaker 1>of what happened to anybody individually throughout their whole life.

0:53:45.520 --> 0:53:46.640
<v Speaker 1>At the end of the day, I think we know

0:53:46.840 --> 0:53:49.120
<v Speaker 1>that when you put yourself in situations that you get

0:53:49.239 --> 0:53:51.200
<v Speaker 1>hit in the head often it's probably not the best

0:53:51.280 --> 0:53:54.960
<v Speaker 1>thing for you. But I agree to diagnose it's not

0:53:55.840 --> 0:53:58.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, to diagnose it is like you know, it

0:53:58.239 --> 0:54:00.799
<v Speaker 1>is hard. I have seen guys that have changed though,

0:54:01.000 --> 0:54:02.920
<v Speaker 1>like you know, to the years for sure, like not

0:54:03.160 --> 0:54:05.400
<v Speaker 1>that many, not a lot at all. Just repeated trauma

0:54:05.400 --> 0:54:07.400
<v Speaker 1>that's gonna affect you. Yeah, just a little bit different,

0:54:07.440 --> 0:54:10.080
<v Speaker 1>you know. But I will say I could probably kind

0:54:10.080 --> 0:54:12.719
<v Speaker 1>of argument myself on almost every point though, because I

0:54:12.800 --> 0:54:15.160
<v Speaker 1>also seen them, you know, going out party and doing

0:54:15.200 --> 0:54:18.200
<v Speaker 1>certain drugs. But no one's gonna check their brain, so

0:54:18.320 --> 0:54:21.200
<v Speaker 1>we'll never know. What. Would you want your kids to

0:54:21.239 --> 0:54:26.120
<v Speaker 1>follow your footsteps? Man? Not really? Why not? I live

0:54:26.880 --> 0:54:31.680
<v Speaker 1>I've lived a very crazy, tough life, you know. You know,

0:54:31.760 --> 0:54:33.960
<v Speaker 1>I came out to the other side and it's good.

0:54:34.200 --> 0:54:36.840
<v Speaker 1>But I just wouldn't want my kids don't need to

0:54:36.920 --> 0:54:39.120
<v Speaker 1>do what I you know, what I put myself through.

0:54:39.320 --> 0:54:41.000
<v Speaker 1>And I've had twenty five surgeries, you know. I mean

0:54:41.040 --> 0:54:43.880
<v Speaker 1>I've been like my body is not the way I

0:54:43.960 --> 0:54:46.120
<v Speaker 1>came out of my mom, you know, like it's it's

0:54:46.160 --> 0:54:52.279
<v Speaker 1>it's changed. Yeah, I've been through a lot, So I

0:54:52.360 --> 0:54:57.400
<v Speaker 1>mean I was like, just a lot, a few because

0:54:58.480 --> 0:55:01.440
<v Speaker 1>my wife has them. But give it a shot, all right.

0:55:01.480 --> 0:55:09.120
<v Speaker 1>I got ten knee surgeries, surgeries, m C l p

0:55:09.200 --> 0:55:13.600
<v Speaker 1>C l old lateral meniscus. I'm bone on bone on

0:55:13.640 --> 0:55:16.480
<v Speaker 1>my right knee for sure. It's tin on both our

0:55:16.520 --> 0:55:19.800
<v Speaker 1>tin on not so eight on one two on the

0:55:19.960 --> 0:55:24.520
<v Speaker 1>other around old lateral, old lateral meniscus. I got him

0:55:24.560 --> 0:55:28.360
<v Speaker 1>repaired twice and then got the got old scopes. Just

0:55:28.480 --> 0:55:32.360
<v Speaker 1>cleaning out, just cleaning out, non stop scope scopes. You

0:55:32.400 --> 0:55:35.880
<v Speaker 1>can no more. It blows up now, huh. You know

0:55:36.000 --> 0:55:38.120
<v Speaker 1>what like my I have, I have my knee. My

0:55:38.360 --> 0:55:41.080
<v Speaker 1>right knee is freaking shot. I got osteo fights that

0:55:41.239 --> 0:55:44.160
<v Speaker 1>came up behind the knee. Osteo fights. So basically when

0:55:44.160 --> 0:55:47.040
<v Speaker 1>you have information for a while, when you get information

0:55:47.120 --> 0:55:49.640
<v Speaker 1>for a while in the area, it'll start calcifying and

0:55:49.760 --> 0:55:51.839
<v Speaker 1>it'll turn the bone. So I have some of those

0:55:51.960 --> 0:55:55.319
<v Speaker 1>that started coming behind my knee joint years and years ago.

0:55:55.320 --> 0:55:58.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about college. So for since then, I haven't

0:55:58.640 --> 0:56:00.279
<v Speaker 1>been able to go like full flesh and where you

0:56:00.280 --> 0:56:03.839
<v Speaker 1>bring your heel to your ass. So that's that's that's

0:56:04.160 --> 0:56:11.279
<v Speaker 1>the ass. Alrighty T knee, three hands. So I got

0:56:11.360 --> 0:56:16.080
<v Speaker 1>my hip bone and here my hip bone. So your

0:56:16.160 --> 0:56:23.080
<v Speaker 1>hip bonus connect to your thumbone exactly like it. So

0:56:23.280 --> 0:56:25.560
<v Speaker 1>your hip so it took out your hip and put

0:56:25.640 --> 0:56:28.440
<v Speaker 1>in your thumb. Because that's why my thumb just does this.

0:56:28.600 --> 0:56:31.120
<v Speaker 1>I can't move this part that's fused. That's fused with

0:56:31.200 --> 0:56:34.799
<v Speaker 1>bone infusible plate right there, and that's my hip bone

0:56:34.800 --> 0:56:37.239
<v Speaker 1>in the sand too. That That was my second and

0:56:37.320 --> 0:56:40.640
<v Speaker 1>third metacar bulls um that just kind of exploded in

0:56:40.680 --> 0:56:44.399
<v Speaker 1>the bow start. Bone started fusing, um started fraying on top,

0:56:44.440 --> 0:56:46.040
<v Speaker 1>and they had a shave roll away and fused this.

0:56:46.360 --> 0:56:47.920
<v Speaker 1>It was all over time and it wasn't like it

0:56:48.040 --> 0:56:50.879
<v Speaker 1>just happened this, This was over. This was the first

0:56:50.960 --> 0:56:53.480
<v Speaker 1>year of me fighting. Actually, I would throw my right

0:56:53.520 --> 0:56:56.360
<v Speaker 1>hand like a madman all the time, and your bone,

0:56:56.440 --> 0:56:58.400
<v Speaker 1>your hands aren't meant to be punching, you know, like

0:56:58.920 --> 0:57:01.399
<v Speaker 1>it's not designed for that. So eventually my bones started

0:57:01.480 --> 0:57:03.360
<v Speaker 1>kind of coming up like this, and then they started

0:57:04.120 --> 0:57:08.560
<v Speaker 1>man I started that started. No, it didn't come to

0:57:08.640 --> 0:57:10.680
<v Speaker 1>the skin, but it was coming up. It was coming up.

0:57:10.680 --> 0:57:13.520
<v Speaker 1>I had surgery before it came through the skin. This

0:57:13.680 --> 0:57:15.880
<v Speaker 1>one was a one time shot. It was in my

0:57:16.000 --> 0:57:19.600
<v Speaker 1>fight against Kelvin Gasolin, first first round through a left

0:57:19.640 --> 0:57:21.760
<v Speaker 1>hook as she was coming in and we don't boxing

0:57:21.800 --> 0:57:24.280
<v Speaker 1>gloves anything, so your thumb was exposed and so I

0:57:24.320 --> 0:57:26.040
<v Speaker 1>hate him. It's not like keeping your thumb in with

0:57:26.080 --> 0:57:29.760
<v Speaker 1>the boxing globe, and yeah, pop popped that. It popped

0:57:29.800 --> 0:57:31.960
<v Speaker 1>the bone off the tendon. And then you had to

0:57:32.160 --> 0:57:36.240
<v Speaker 1>keep fighting. Yeah did you you did you puncture that? Yeah? Yeah,

0:57:37.160 --> 0:57:39.439
<v Speaker 1>I punished. I won that fight. I didn't even feel,

0:57:39.520 --> 0:57:42.080
<v Speaker 1>to be honest, in the fight, you know, like was going.

0:57:42.760 --> 0:57:44.840
<v Speaker 1>I felt it afterwards and I thought I was all right,

0:57:45.360 --> 0:57:47.560
<v Speaker 1>but then I wasn't. I had to get I got

0:57:47.600 --> 0:57:49.360
<v Speaker 1>the X ray and the m R and all that stuff,

0:57:49.360 --> 0:57:51.400
<v Speaker 1>and then I got a surgery the next day. Then

0:57:51.400 --> 0:57:54.040
<v Speaker 1>I had to get another surgery um a few months

0:57:54.160 --> 0:57:57.120
<v Speaker 1>later because the bone didn't take. When they put the

0:57:57.200 --> 0:58:00.600
<v Speaker 1>hip bone in, UM there was so it was such

0:58:00.640 --> 0:58:04.360
<v Speaker 1>a concussive blow. They said that the bones alre deteriorating,

0:58:04.520 --> 0:58:06.320
<v Speaker 1>so there was no blood supply left in the bone

0:58:06.320 --> 0:58:08.280
<v Speaker 1>in my hand. So they had a white more bone

0:58:08.320 --> 0:58:11.080
<v Speaker 1>out and put more hip bone in there too to

0:58:11.200 --> 0:58:14.560
<v Speaker 1>heal that hand up. M I think it's more stiff

0:58:14.640 --> 0:58:18.120
<v Speaker 1>hips and it's thumb and take. He said, I need something.

0:58:18.400 --> 0:58:21.800
<v Speaker 1>I got a lighthead. I got one little lighthead, all right,

0:58:21.880 --> 0:58:26.720
<v Speaker 1>So you got hands? What else? Uh? Two neck surgeries does? So?

0:58:26.840 --> 0:58:29.640
<v Speaker 1>I did uh one artificial disreplacement and I did one.

0:58:29.840 --> 0:58:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Uh like a scope C five C six C six

0:58:34.000 --> 0:58:37.440
<v Speaker 1>C seven C four C four. You had surgery. Uh no,

0:58:37.600 --> 0:58:41.960
<v Speaker 1>I had natural heal burst fracture. Naturally, Oh bait birth fracture,

0:58:42.160 --> 0:58:47.320
<v Speaker 1>burst fracture, explode it that much left in college? Oh jeez.

0:58:47.560 --> 0:58:49.800
<v Speaker 1>So I had to harness, not drilled in my head,

0:58:49.840 --> 0:58:53.800
<v Speaker 1>but harness. But I have no natural bend damn. So

0:58:54.000 --> 0:58:56.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of you're saying, kind of fused. I didn't get

0:58:56.520 --> 0:59:02.720
<v Speaker 1>a fused at that time. I did in ninety ninety nine,

0:59:03.280 --> 0:59:06.560
<v Speaker 1>so they didn't do fusing. I was considered if you

0:59:06.600 --> 0:59:09.120
<v Speaker 1>got a fuse at that time, I considered knock you

0:59:09.200 --> 0:59:11.600
<v Speaker 1>out of being able to play. So it did natural hilly.

0:59:12.280 --> 0:59:17.080
<v Speaker 1>So I was like that for November, December, January, February, March, April,

0:59:17.600 --> 0:59:20.160
<v Speaker 1>so six months in that and then I couldn't do

0:59:21.240 --> 0:59:25.840
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't do any off season um hitting. And so

0:59:26.000 --> 0:59:32.120
<v Speaker 1>basically we find out in August September if I can play. Yeah, now,

0:59:32.600 --> 0:59:36.680
<v Speaker 1>and after that idea shrugs. Still doing shrugs to protect

0:59:37.000 --> 0:59:40.480
<v Speaker 1>my shoulder. So that's all. I will probably be eighty

0:59:40.600 --> 0:59:43.840
<v Speaker 1>years old and I'll still have traps like a mother.

0:59:44.760 --> 0:59:46.920
<v Speaker 1>I won't have anything else that I just had traps.

0:59:47.360 --> 0:59:49.720
<v Speaker 1>Here's a secret. I never told anybody for a long time,

0:59:50.720 --> 0:59:54.760
<v Speaker 1>probably for about three years after. When I would turn

0:59:55.240 --> 0:59:57.400
<v Speaker 1>side to side too quick, I would get a sharp

0:59:57.480 --> 1:00:02.480
<v Speaker 1>pain going up my neck. And he's like, but you

1:00:02.560 --> 1:00:05.800
<v Speaker 1>know you getting paid all that money? You don't that

1:00:05.960 --> 1:00:11.200
<v Speaker 1>is something. So I just did shrugs. That's all I did.

1:00:11.280 --> 1:00:14.439
<v Speaker 1>They said, just got shrugs. So, yeah, that is crazy

1:00:14.440 --> 1:00:16.360
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL, you guys kind of I did in

1:00:16.480 --> 1:00:19.960
<v Speaker 1>college though, which is crazy because you have But so

1:00:20.000 --> 1:00:23.200
<v Speaker 1>they knew about your neck injury, and so that's that

1:00:23.280 --> 1:00:27.040
<v Speaker 1>took me off some boards, some folks boards St. Louis Rams.

1:00:27.600 --> 1:00:31.960
<v Speaker 1>They got Tommy Polly linebacker instead of me and Travis Fisher.

1:00:33.000 --> 1:00:35.880
<v Speaker 1>I love that you remember that. So with all these injuries,

1:00:35.880 --> 1:00:38.560
<v Speaker 1>you got, Chris, like, do you know not all bro?

1:00:38.640 --> 1:00:41.560
<v Speaker 1>The twenty five injures, with all at ease? Do you do?

1:00:41.680 --> 1:00:43.520
<v Speaker 1>You do you worry about any of them? As you

1:00:43.560 --> 1:00:45.560
<v Speaker 1>get older? Like, what's what's your take now? Is you

1:00:45.800 --> 1:00:48.840
<v Speaker 1>as you are older, as you as you think beyond

1:00:49.880 --> 1:00:53.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm screwed in terms of be honest, bro, Like, don't

1:00:55.440 --> 1:00:57.640
<v Speaker 1>don't tell me, Like, yeah, I mean, at the end

1:00:57.640 --> 1:01:00.160
<v Speaker 1>of the day. I'm yeah, from wrestling my whole if

1:01:00.280 --> 1:01:02.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, playing every other sport I played into fighting.

1:01:03.000 --> 1:01:05.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, as long as I've been fighting, the damage

1:01:05.560 --> 1:01:07.360
<v Speaker 1>in my body is not going anywhere, you know what

1:01:07.360 --> 1:01:09.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean. Unless they come up with some stem cells

1:01:09.200 --> 1:01:11.040
<v Speaker 1>that cures the whole body and you get a new one.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be feeling pain, but I don't mind it. I

1:01:14.600 --> 1:01:16.240
<v Speaker 1>don't mind. I don't you know. I deal with pain

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<v Speaker 1>all the time, and me and pain are cool. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you believe USC is the greatest sport in the world? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>You know. To me, it is, you know, but everybody

1:01:25.600 --> 1:01:27.400
<v Speaker 1>has their opinion. Now who am I to push my

1:01:27.480 --> 1:01:30.400
<v Speaker 1>opinion on anybody? I like this. You know why I

1:01:30.520 --> 1:01:33.840
<v Speaker 1>think it is because no matter where, it's a worldwide

1:01:33.840 --> 1:01:38.960
<v Speaker 1>sport and I like it. No, no, no disrespect. But

1:01:39.200 --> 1:01:42.360
<v Speaker 1>there's no matter where you are in the world, whether

1:01:42.440 --> 1:01:44.680
<v Speaker 1>the richest country to the poorest country, everybody knows what

1:01:44.800 --> 1:01:47.600
<v Speaker 1>the fight is. Everybody circles around that fight and wants

1:01:47.640 --> 1:01:50.520
<v Speaker 1>to watch. So you get every single martial art that's

1:01:50.560 --> 1:01:52.280
<v Speaker 1>ever been around in the history of man. You get

1:01:52.320 --> 1:01:55.000
<v Speaker 1>to bring in with you inside of a cage against

1:01:55.040 --> 1:01:56.919
<v Speaker 1>other people that are doing the same thing. The most

1:01:56.960 --> 1:02:00.240
<v Speaker 1>world class athletes you could, you could, you could line

1:02:00.760 --> 1:02:04.040
<v Speaker 1>coming to come into a cage and see who who

1:02:04.120 --> 1:02:06.520
<v Speaker 1>could do it? Who could outsmart Who who could out tough?

1:02:06.600 --> 1:02:12.040
<v Speaker 1>Who who's the toughest, who's the baddest. All The closest

1:02:12.080 --> 1:02:14.400
<v Speaker 1>thing to the real, closest thing to a real fight

1:02:14.480 --> 1:02:18.240
<v Speaker 1>you could possibly get is the UFC And to to

1:02:18.520 --> 1:02:20.680
<v Speaker 1>put yourself and challenge yourself in that way. I don't

1:02:20.680 --> 1:02:23.080
<v Speaker 1>think there's anything greater, you know, I don't think there's

1:02:23.080 --> 1:02:26.840
<v Speaker 1>any sport like it. I think every every sport, most sports,

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<v Speaker 1>and most athletes, most athletes, I'll say, have that in them,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I think you have it in you. All athletes

1:02:33.680 --> 1:02:36.760
<v Speaker 1>are not. The majority of top athletes have that in them,

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<v Speaker 1>that that in a desire to show that they're the best.

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<v Speaker 1>And what is better than showing that you are the

1:02:41.920 --> 1:02:44.920
<v Speaker 1>toughest motherfucker in the whole on the whole damn planet.

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<v Speaker 1>And everybody knows the rules. No matter what socio economic

1:02:48.560 --> 1:02:52.200
<v Speaker 1>background you come from, you have the same opportunities everybody understands,

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<v Speaker 1>and you get to put it on the line and

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<v Speaker 1>there's no excuses. You don't get if you win, it's

1:02:57.280 --> 1:02:59.160
<v Speaker 1>on you. If you lose this on you. You don't

1:02:59.200 --> 1:03:01.720
<v Speaker 1>get to blame one of the person. And with that,

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<v Speaker 1>my friends, Chris, thanks for being on the Cut to

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<v Speaker 1>A podcast. Thank you. I appreciate it. Guess you are

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<v Speaker 1>a unique person. You are well worth it, you are

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<v Speaker 1>competent and most of all, your lovable. I'm Steve Smith, Singer,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Gerard Little John and this is cut to It.

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<v Speaker 1>Cut to It with Steve Smith Senior. That Is Me

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<v Speaker 1>is a production of Cut to It LLC, Baltol Creative Media,

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<v Speaker 1>The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. For more podcast

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<v Speaker 1>from I Heart Radio, visit the I Heart Radio Apple

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<v Speaker 1>Apple Podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows

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<v Speaker 1>from Cut to It, Executive producer Steve Smith, singr co

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<v Speaker 1>host Gerard Little John, talent in booking manager Joe Fusci,

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<v Speaker 1>Social media team Wesley Robinson and John and show from

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<v Speaker 1>Balto Creative Media. Cut to It is produced by Brian

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<v Speaker 1>Balta Chevic and Meredith Carter, with production assistance by Alex Lebrek,

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<v Speaker 1>Production Coordinator Taylor Robinson. Theme music by Alex Johnson, lyrics

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<v Speaker 1>and vocals by Anthony Hamilton. If you ain't heard about it,

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<v Speaker 1>then we're about to let you know, it's all