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<v Speaker 1>Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition

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<v Speaker 2>You are listening to Wrestling Observer Live with your hosts

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<v Speaker 1>How's it going, everybody? Brian Alvarez here on Wrestling Observer Live.

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<v Speaker 1>We are here every day Monday through Friday, New Pacific

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<v Speaker 1>and you know what that means, Well, you know, I'm back.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm back here today. Got a lot to talk about. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>Summer Slam was this weekend. I presume that was talked

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<v Speaker 1>about in depth yesterday. But last night night was the

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<v Speaker 1>raw after Summer Slam, which was significantly better than the

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<v Speaker 1>Raw after WrestleMania. They had a great, great show last

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<v Speaker 1>night and it's set up a ton of stuff for

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<v Speaker 1>the future, a ton of guys over a ton of

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<v Speaker 1>big matches coming up, lots of over babyfaces, which certainly

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't the case several years ago. So we're gonna talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the Raw after WrestleMania here today. We've also got

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<v Speaker 1>the Raw after Summer Slam today. We've also got to

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<v Speaker 1>the NXT Great American Bash Night two coming up here tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>We have Dynamite coming up on Wednesday. They are building

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<v Speaker 1>towards Wembley Stadium. And then of course we have got

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<v Speaker 1>all of the news the Luca Brothers likely leaving AEW,

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<v Speaker 1>likely heading to WWE. Nothing is official until it is,

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<v Speaker 1>but that is the belief. Roman Reign's next WWE AP

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<v Speaker 1>pearents have been announced as is coming Friday night. On Backdown,

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<v Speaker 1>Shane now, Brian Danielson talking about Shane McMahon, talk about

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<v Speaker 1>In the show, Brian Alvarez here Wrestling Observer Live like

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<v Speaker 1>simper vv also Wrestling Observer dot com. Yes, I have

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<v Speaker 1>returned finally.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you miss it?

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<v Speaker 1>Depends? I always miss part of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Here on Friday, I can tell you that.

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<v Speaker 1>What happened on Friday.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh nothing, nothing, nothing in the news that I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>want to cover that I ended up having to.

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<v Speaker 1>Cover that that happens every day.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, we got talking about the It does happen

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<v Speaker 3>every day.

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<v Speaker 1>The Luta bros. Maybe leaving AW, it says here Brian Alvarez, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's me, is reporting the internal belief within AW both

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<v Speaker 1>pent and Ray Phoenix will be leaving the company for

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<v Speaker 1>WWE when their contracts expire.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait a second, Wait a second. So we're saying, for

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<v Speaker 3>once on this show, we can tell the people. Brian

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<v Speaker 3>Alvarez reported this.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, here's what you can tell the people if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to, all right, you can tell the people that

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<v Speaker 1>the belief within AW is they're leaving, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>from multiple people, and until they leave, until they sign

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<v Speaker 1>with WWE, nothing is official. I can't tell you one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent they're going to WWE, but it is believed

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<v Speaker 1>that they are leaving, and it is most likely the WWE. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>how can I say this? We don't know, obviously, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you can't negotiate with the other side at

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<v Speaker 1>this point. But there have been several eluchadors that have

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<v Speaker 1>gone to WWE of late, you know, Andrade has gone back,

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<v Speaker 1>Dragon Lee has gone to WWE. Santo's Escobar is obviously

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<v Speaker 1>with w w E. Raymis Terio has been there for

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<v Speaker 1>years and they are making a lot of money. And

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<v Speaker 1>pent in particular is forty years old and he wants

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<v Speaker 1>to make a lot of money. Now maybe AW is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna throw a lot of money at him. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>but people there under the impression that they are leaving,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll find out soon enough. They've been there since

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<v Speaker 1>the very beginning, and you know, I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>much they really care about getting pushed. Getting pushed is

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<v Speaker 1>more important for some people than for others. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>A great example is you know, Shinsky, Nakamura, Okada. Actually

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<v Speaker 1>the best recent example is Okada. Okay, why did Okada

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<v Speaker 1>go to AW because they paid him seven figures and

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't have to do anything, okay, so he's happy

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<v Speaker 1>as a clam. Is he sad that he's not in

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<v Speaker 1>the world title scene wrestling? You know, he doesn't care.

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<v Speaker 1>He's done that and now he's making his money. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think that the Lucha bros, they want

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<v Speaker 1>to make their money, and WWE is thrown around a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of money, and we shall see what happens. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there could be other aspects of it. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you look at the Lucha Bros. I mean they're there,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they win titles every now and then they

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<v Speaker 1>you know, get hurt and disappear and come back. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>where are they now compared to where they were five

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<v Speaker 1>years ago? They were They're in the exact same spot.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, there are certain people in AW that

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<v Speaker 1>are in a much better spot now, but there's also

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people in AW that are exactly where

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<v Speaker 1>they were five years ago. And I talked about this

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<v Speaker 1>a while back. I mean, you know this idea where

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<v Speaker 1>everybody goes one direction. For a while, it was like

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's going to WWE to AW, and I said, the

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<v Speaker 1>day will come when people start going the other way.

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<v Speaker 1>And we've seen people choose WWE over AW. There will

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<v Speaker 1>be more. Obviously there will be some that will go

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<v Speaker 1>to uh, you know AW as well. But yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the update. Luca Bros. Probably heading to WWE.

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<v Speaker 3>I really don't have anything to add on that, although

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<v Speaker 3>right now would be the best time for them to

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<v Speaker 3>go now, wouldn't it With WWE being as strong as

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<v Speaker 3>they are and throwing around the money that they they have,

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<v Speaker 3>and I you know, I don't know. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>those guys, so I don't know what's in their mind

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<v Speaker 3>as far as what they want to do. But they're

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<v Speaker 3>not getting any younger, that's for sure. In WWE, you

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<v Speaker 3>don't have to do what you can do in aew

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<v Speaker 3>and what is somewhat expected of you when it comes

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<v Speaker 3>to the fans. So if it's time just to have

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<v Speaker 3>a bunch of moments where you know, he's not worried

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<v Speaker 3>about being booked on Rustlemania, but if he's hanging out

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<v Speaker 3>with George Kittle and doing different things like that, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>Penta will be happy. I don't know, but I mean

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<v Speaker 3>right now is as good of a time as any,

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<v Speaker 3>considering they're both healthy, which is always an issue when

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<v Speaker 3>it comes to especially Phoenix.

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<v Speaker 9>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>The other other thing to think about is, especially if

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking to make some money. Do you know how

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<v Speaker 1>much these two men will make unmerchandised sales in WWE masks, shirts,

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<v Speaker 1>Penta's glove, I mean they will make a killing.

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<v Speaker 3>Brian to be fair, to be fair, to balance that

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<v Speaker 3>out a little bit. The only guy who's made real

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<v Speaker 3>money off a mask in the last twenty years in WWE,

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<v Speaker 3>the only guy that they've actually pushed to a level

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<v Speaker 3>that people wanted to buy their merchandise, and that's Ray

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<v Speaker 3>Mysterio Junior. And if you are a fan of these guys'

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<v Speaker 3>matches and their catalog, make sure that you have all

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<v Speaker 3>that if they do decide to go to WWE, because

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<v Speaker 3>they won't be working like that, and it's possible that

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<v Speaker 3>they do end up in an LWO or something like that,

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<v Speaker 3>and they had and it's very possible that as characters

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<v Speaker 3>they spin wheels, because that's what it's been for everybody

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<v Speaker 3>else that's gone there. Now if i'm WWE, of course,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it's Penta and Phoenix. Look at Penta in

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<v Speaker 3>that mask. Look at the obviously the kittle thing which

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<v Speaker 3>they will play into. If they don't sell those masks,

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<v Speaker 3>then they're absolute idiots. But to jump in and say,

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<v Speaker 3>well boy, they're gonna make a lot of money off

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<v Speaker 3>of merch they should make a lot of money off

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<v Speaker 3>of me. But nobody has who's been in that position,

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<v Speaker 3>with the exception of Raymistereo.

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<v Speaker 1>Well and the Fiend. That guy sold a ridiculous amount

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<v Speaker 1>of masks.

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<v Speaker 3>I understand that I'm talking abouts.

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<v Speaker 1>Not well, we haven't really had a lot of masked

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<v Speaker 1>Lucidors with the exception of Dragon Lee, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know is done.

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<v Speaker 3>But also look at how they have treated those luchadors too.

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<v Speaker 3>When it comes to merchandise. It's not like you see

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<v Speaker 3>a bunch.

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<v Speaker 1>Of Actually, bro listen, there is a ton of l

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<v Speaker 1>w O merchandise and they sell a ton of merchandise.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I know, yes, when Vince was around, they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>do anything with the Mexicans, and yes you can you

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<v Speaker 1>can say, well where's Dragon Lee been? But if you

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<v Speaker 1>look at, like, you know, how it is now as

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<v Speaker 1>compared to before. I mean, they've done a lot with

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<v Speaker 1>the LWO. They've done a lot with Andrade since coming back,

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<v Speaker 1>not as much as you know, maybe he was doing

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<v Speaker 1>actually I don't even know he was doing better than

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<v Speaker 1>hey w to be honest with you. I mean he's

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<v Speaker 1>probably doing that Best of Seven with Carmel. And they

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<v Speaker 1>are treating the luchador significantly better now than they ever have.

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<v Speaker 1>And we'll see, I mean, we'll see Roman Reigns returns

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<v Speaker 1>on Friday to SmackDown. So they're looking to boost those

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<v Speaker 1>numbers and really There isn't much time left for SmackDown.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the final month of SmackDown on Fox. They're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be moving to the USA Network early and

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<v Speaker 1>Roman Reign is going to be there and we'll find

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<v Speaker 1>out if he's doing anything on the Berlin Show. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess we'll find out what his next match is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be. But he's gonna be back on Friday, and

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<v Speaker 1>it should be the best SmackDown number, even against the

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<v Speaker 1>Olympics in quite a while. SmackDown actually did fine against

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<v Speaker 1>the Olympics last week. It was actually up from the

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<v Speaker 1>week prior. Collision, Oh my god, Collision got murdered on

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday night. They moved early, and according to Brent and

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<v Speaker 1>Thurston here, Collision did one hundred and eighty nine thousand

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<v Speaker 1>viewers whoa and a point eight in eighteen to forty

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<v Speaker 1>nine I believe. I mean, the Rampage number was the

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<v Speaker 1>lowest Rampage number of all time. So if you remember

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<v Speaker 1>like Rampage being moved to like two o'clock in the

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<v Speaker 1>afternoon on the West Coast or whatever, the Rampage in

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<v Speaker 1>its normal time slot last Friday did the lowest number

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<v Speaker 1>they have ever done. And I have to check but

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I can't. I mean, I think, by far,

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<v Speaker 1>nine thousand viewers is the least number of people that

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<v Speaker 1>have ever watched any aw show all time ever. So

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<v Speaker 1>they got brutalized Saturday night. Back in a moment with

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<v Speaker 1>more Observer Live.

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<v Speaker 2>You were listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez

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<v Speaker 2>and Mike semperviv on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.

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<v Speaker 1>Back here in the show Bryan Alvarez here Wrestling Observer Live.

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Kahan commented on his meeting with Shane McMahon during

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<v Speaker 1>a recent interview with ESPN Radio. He was asked about

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<v Speaker 1>it on the Sodano and Cap Show, and he said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>as I understand, he's not doing anything with WWE, and

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<v Speaker 1>I had a really nice visit with him. I had

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<v Speaker 1>heard from a lot of people that he was interested

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<v Speaker 1>in talking and it became, frankly, a big media story

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<v Speaker 1>to the point where I was getting asked on the

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<v Speaker 1>record questions about it, and I answered them and just

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<v Speaker 1>like I'll answer you now. I had never met him

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<v Speaker 1>in advance of my first conversation with him. There was

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of buzz about this, so I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>would certainly be worth talking. I have a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>respect for him. I had never met him, but he

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<v Speaker 1>seemed like a really nice guy. I sat down with him.

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<v Speaker 1>He was fantastic. I really enjoyed talking to him, and

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<v Speaker 1>he is a very smart person about wrestling, and I

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<v Speaker 1>thought he was a great guy. And we have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of mutual friends, and we both happened to be

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<v Speaker 1>in Dallas. A mutual friend linked us up who was

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<v Speaker 1>one of the bigger names in pro wrestling, God, and

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<v Speaker 1>that friend put us on a group chat. We were

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<v Speaker 1>both in the same town at the same time. He

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<v Speaker 1>then stayed it. He then stated, yes, the picture that

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<v Speaker 1>leaked online leaked was taken by someone who just quote

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<v Speaker 1>busted it in and took a photo, busted it. So

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<v Speaker 1>we said busted it in somebody, he said, in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of talking at an airport conference room. Somebody just

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<v Speaker 1>busted in I guess and took a photo. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's fine. Oh yeah, I bet there's nothing wrong

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<v Speaker 1>with a couple of people getting together and talking about wrestling.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's part of what makes wrestling so great

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<v Speaker 1>is there is a lot of talk, and we're all

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<v Speaker 1>fans at heart.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody talks too much.

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Danielson would be open to working with Shane McMahon

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<v Speaker 1>again if Shane ends up coming to AW. He did

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<v Speaker 1>an interview and said, I'm open to working with anybody.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have beef with anybody, so yeah, one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 1>He said he doesn't have any inside information on what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on between AW and Shane, and if he did,

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<v Speaker 1>he would not disclose it publicly.

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<v Speaker 9>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>It was interesting because Tony mentioned to me after the

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<v Speaker 1>photo had come out. He said, oh, yeah, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to tell you this before, but I met with

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<v Speaker 1>Shane McMahon. I didn't say this, but I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know. The picture was everywhere. Although to be fair,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not aware of a lot of things because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't go on Twitter and I don't go on social

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<v Speaker 1>media and all that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Smart man.

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<v Speaker 9>So that's the story. That's the story.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a story.

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<v Speaker 9>It's a story, all right.

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<v Speaker 3>Although it is completely believable to me that a fan

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<v Speaker 3>would hear that Shane McMahon and Tony Connor in the

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<v Speaker 3>same place and kick opened a door at an airport,

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<v Speaker 3>considering the ass that these people show on a regular

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<v Speaker 3>basis with wrestlers at the airport.

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<v Speaker 1>He took that picture and they went running.

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<v Speaker 3>Now Tony was like, uh yeah, uh oh boy.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah that's what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>I was entertained by this story. So in SummerSlam they

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<v Speaker 1>did that logan Paul Man and he lost to l. A.

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<v Speaker 1>Knight and his foots under the ropes. Oh boy, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they are going to follow up on that. He has

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<v Speaker 1>filed a lawsuit. Okay, he's filed a lawsuit against LA

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<v Speaker 1>Knight accusing him of civil theft willful property damage, which

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<v Speaker 1>actually I can I can buy that when he stole

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<v Speaker 1>that truck and destroyed it. So I mean that's that's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>But my my favorite part of this is that his

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<v Speaker 1>his lawsuit that he filed, he has a demand for

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<v Speaker 1>a jury trial. I'm begging, I am begging for this

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<v Speaker 1>to go to trial, and we can cover this every

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<v Speaker 1>week on this program and on SmackDown as as we

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<v Speaker 1>have courtroom footage. Have somebody outside the courtroom.

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<v Speaker 3>My god, do we have any famous wrestling barristers we

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<v Speaker 3>can bring in for.

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<v Speaker 1>This a jury trial? Well, the barrister, I mean he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't work for WWE.

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<v Speaker 3>Well that's yeah, the actual one. Rd Evans No, No,

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<v Speaker 3>not him. We can't do that one, But is there

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<v Speaker 3>anybody else we can bring in here?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I not do it. NXT's going on the

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<v Speaker 1>road to kick off its move to the CW. Shawn

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<v Speaker 1>Michael's revealed on social media the October first premiere episode

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<v Speaker 1>of NXT in the network will air live from the

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<v Speaker 1>All State Arena.

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<v Speaker 3>Damn.

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<v Speaker 1>The brand will add to Saint Louis the following week,

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<v Speaker 1>although he did not mention a venue. So actually, if

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<v Speaker 1>if All Out ends up being in Chicago, that means

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<v Speaker 1>WW is running NXT two weeks later. Two weeks later

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<v Speaker 1>at the All State Arena, ce.

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<v Speaker 3>Him Punk there. Randy Orton at the show in Saint Louis,

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<v Speaker 3>So it's not going to be a small venue. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think Randy's coming out to the community college. But

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<v Speaker 3>be interesting to see how those shows are revealed and

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<v Speaker 3>what their plan is going to be for that show.

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<v Speaker 3>Are they going to return to the Performance Center mostly

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<v Speaker 3>or are they going to run some smaller sized buildings.

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<v Speaker 3>I wonder how that whole thing. It's gonna be interesting

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<v Speaker 3>to see how this whole thing ends up evolving and

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<v Speaker 3>playing out over time and what the ratings end up

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<v Speaker 3>being on CW and how it's received.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, they've got two weeks. Randy Orton's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>there in chicag in Saint Louis, c and Punk in Chicago.

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<v Speaker 1>They've already now, they've already released their first thirty second

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<v Speaker 1>ad five year deal with the ced W. My god,

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<v Speaker 1>five years of NXT on the CW.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm gonna have so much material.

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<v Speaker 3>Dear God, Are you gonna start watching some of the

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<v Speaker 3>other shows on the CW. No, of course, watch a little.

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<v Speaker 3>No Penn and Teller.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Have seen that show a few times when it's someone

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<v Speaker 1>that I liked, but.

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<v Speaker 3>It's their number one rated show. If I'm not, I

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<v Speaker 3>believe that.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that. The only thing, the only problem I

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<v Speaker 1>have with the show is you got to trust those two.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, Well, like you do it

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<v Speaker 1>well I were talking about the Magic Show. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well you gotta trust them because like some guy does

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<v Speaker 1>this big performance and then like you have to trust

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<v Speaker 1>whether Penn and Teller actually figured it out or not.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, ah, you know, we.

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<v Speaker 3>Know that one.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like I missed out on millions because of this.

0:23:36.520 --> 0:23:38.399
<v Speaker 1>But then every now and then they'll be like, you

0:23:38.520 --> 0:23:42.639
<v Speaker 1>got us. It's like, really, is this all for show?

0:23:45.480 --> 0:23:48.560
<v Speaker 3>If it's gotten executive producer, it's all for show.

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<v Speaker 1>M all right? The latest on the g one, which

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<v Speaker 1>is anyone watching all of it? Anybody?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a little behind.

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<v Speaker 1>I think everyone is. I've watched so night eleven, Sanata

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<v Speaker 1>beat Shingo, Nito beat Show to Umino, Zach Saber Junior

0:24:09.560 --> 0:24:13.600
<v Speaker 1>beat Evil, Jake Lee beat Gabe Kid, Great o'conn beat

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<v Speaker 1>Callum Newman. So Wednesday we have got the following matches

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<v Speaker 1>in the B block Goto and David Finley, yu Uimuran,

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<v Speaker 1>Red Narita, Yodas, Suji and hanare El, Fantasmo and Takeshta

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<v Speaker 1>and Olag Bolton and Jeff Cobb. So that brings us

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<v Speaker 1>to the final standings. At this point, Zach, Saber Junior

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<v Speaker 1>and Evil are now tied with ten points each. Sonata's

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<v Speaker 1>got eight, Nito's got eight, Gabe, Kid, Umino, Takagi, Great o'conn,

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<v Speaker 1>Jake Lee all have six, Calum Newman's got four. In

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<v Speaker 1>the B block, Jeff Cobb and David Finley are in

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<v Speaker 1>the lead, followed by Uimura, Takeshta, Hanare, Red, Narita, go

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<v Speaker 1>To Suji all with six points old Bolden Fantasma with four,

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<v Speaker 1>So like, I don't think there's any way Suji's winning

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<v Speaker 1>this thing.

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<v Speaker 3>It's possible, Actually, it's possible. I gotta see it's possible.

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<v Speaker 1>But then you we're talking ta keshas non in the finals.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, no, no. How they're doing it this

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<v Speaker 3>year is the winner of the regular block is going

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<v Speaker 3>to get a bye. The number one person at the

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<v Speaker 3>end of this thing, who's got the most points is

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<v Speaker 3>getting a bye, and then two and three number the

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<v Speaker 3>A Bloc two is gonna face B block three and

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<v Speaker 3>vice versa. What so, Yes, there are going to be

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<v Speaker 3>six people in play by the end of this thing,

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<v Speaker 3>which is why Nayato being the IWGP champion and limping

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<v Speaker 3>along here is you know, probably going to play into

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<v Speaker 3>the end. Same thing when it comes to a couple

0:25:47.920 --> 0:25:50.879
<v Speaker 3>of these guys like Suji, who's only at six points.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Thank god, I haven't been watching. I'd be so irritated,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, and perhaps confused.

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<v Speaker 3>No, that'll be at the end, but that's okay, explain

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<v Speaker 3>it all to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, say we got the text message you've

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<v Speaker 1>been We'll do raw after the break.

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<v Speaker 9>Let's see what we've got here.

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<v Speaker 1>They were playing up a whose side is yon? With

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<v Speaker 1>Roman having both Solo and Cody down. Okay, cool, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't read these Before I read them, What was the

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<v Speaker 1>point of that? Send me another text and explain what

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<v Speaker 1>the point of that was.

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<v Speaker 9>Let's see what we've got.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, is there anything good in this today? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>here we go. Give me Rush and the Beast Mortos

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<v Speaker 1>as a tag team that I am all for. They

0:26:43.119 --> 0:26:49.480
<v Speaker 1>should be the tag team champions and Kyle Fletcher Yeah, spears,

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<v Speaker 1>says Brian will Tony play round with going to different

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<v Speaker 1>places for special dynamites like the early days. I'm in Colorado.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love an aw event at Red Rocks. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they're not doing that now, but I mean, hey, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna know.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot more that money though, that's the problem with

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<v Speaker 3>some we're exotic like that. That would look incredible and awesome,

0:27:10.040 --> 0:27:12.760
<v Speaker 3>like one, logistically is it possible? And two do you

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<v Speaker 3>want to spend that money right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's the thing. Once the new TV deal comes in,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna know a lot more. If it's if it's

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<v Speaker 2>Alparez and Mike semperviv on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let's talk about maybe the best raw of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>It was awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>Baldemore, Oh, that's why it helped.

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<v Speaker 9>I don't know about that.

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<v Speaker 3>You're pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>So uh, Ludvig guy's her news his gun there and

0:31:24.200 --> 0:31:26.320
<v Speaker 1>he comes out and he's got a suit on and

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<v Speaker 1>his belt and he looks like a million bucks and

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<v Speaker 1>out comes Randy Orton, and Randy reminds him, I he said,

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<v Speaker 1>A'm the reason you're the champion in the first place,

0:31:38.320 --> 0:31:40.000
<v Speaker 1>because you won King of the Ring beating me. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, my shoulders weren't down, and I will

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<v Speaker 1>accept the referees decision is final. But you know what, everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>including Triple H, knows that my shoulders were not down,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I'm cashing in my rematch right now. He's

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<v Speaker 1>going to face him for the title at the Bash

0:31:57.320 --> 0:32:01.040
<v Speaker 1>in Berlin show and he vows to leeve the world

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<v Speaker 1>heavyweight champion. So Gunther accepts the challenge. They go face

0:32:05.960 --> 0:32:10.480
<v Speaker 1>to face and Gunther tells him nothing ever catches me

0:32:10.560 --> 0:32:13.320
<v Speaker 1>out of nowhere, and Randy says, that's fine. I don't

0:32:13.320 --> 0:32:15.000
<v Speaker 1>want to catch you out of nowhere. I want you

0:32:15.040 --> 0:32:18.720
<v Speaker 1>to see it coming they leave, there's no brawl. Two

0:32:18.760 --> 0:32:22.240
<v Speaker 1>professionals gonna have a professional wrestling match for the World

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<v Speaker 1>Heavyweight Championship.

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<v Speaker 9>I thought this was awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>You're not going to complain about the brand split or anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Nope, don't care. Good because they never pushed it. It's

0:32:31.920 --> 0:32:34.400
<v Speaker 1>like these people are on this show. These people are

0:32:34.480 --> 0:32:36.720
<v Speaker 1>on that show, but they never say they can't go

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<v Speaker 1>to the other show. They never say that when they

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<v Speaker 1>face each other. It's once in a lifetime. So great,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the way it should be.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's going to be a show where they're going

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<v Speaker 3>to be in Berlin anyway, so you're gonna have everybody

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<v Speaker 3>all mixed and matched in all likelihood. And I do

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<v Speaker 3>like the fact that they have announced this, gotten this

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<v Speaker 3>out of the way, let's go with it.

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<v Speaker 1>We add Seamus versus Ludwig Kaiser match was awesome. What

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<v Speaker 1>the heck's going on with Seamus? Like this guy? I mean,

0:33:05.640 --> 0:33:07.840
<v Speaker 1>he was always like good and everything like that, but

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<v Speaker 1>like the older he gets, the better the matches are

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<v Speaker 1>that he has. And it's mostly because he'll just beat

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<v Speaker 1>the crap out of the other guy and get the

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<v Speaker 1>crap beat out of him, and him and Kaiser just

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<v Speaker 1>pounded on each other, and the finish was great because

0:33:21.200 --> 0:33:24.560
<v Speaker 1>they're doing this striking battlers pounding on each other. And

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<v Speaker 1>Seamus ends up hitting a clothesine off the post to

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<v Speaker 1>the floor and he throws Kaiser in the ring, and

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden out comes Pete done with the shealey,

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<v Speaker 1>and he tries to hit Seamus, but he misses and

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<v Speaker 1>Seamus sends him into the announced table and then Seamus

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<v Speaker 1>flies into the ring and everybody knows what's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Distraction finish, Kaiser pins him, Nope, Seamus avoids it, kills

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<v Speaker 1>this dude with a brogue knee, kills him with a

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<v Speaker 1>brogue kick, pins him in the middle of the ring.

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<v Speaker 9>It was awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>So now we get Seamus and Pete Dunne coming up,

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<v Speaker 1>which also should be great.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what my big thought was coming out of

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<v Speaker 3>that boy, This Intercontinental title picture could be really awesome

0:34:06.880 --> 0:34:10.080
<v Speaker 3>because I like Kaiser, Seamus fits in that mix. Obviously,

0:34:10.120 --> 0:34:13.640
<v Speaker 3>you got brawn there, you know, Elia Dragonoff is lurking

0:34:13.680 --> 0:34:16.080
<v Speaker 3>around as well to Pete Dunn. You can have a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of guys, you know, fighting over that title and

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<v Speaker 3>making it something valuable. It's been with Gunther and Sammy.

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<v Speaker 3>They did a great job with that. But those old

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<v Speaker 3>days of people really mixing it up for it, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>all about that.

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<v Speaker 1>So then we had Damien Priest coming out and this

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<v Speaker 1>guy is so over as a babyface and he's a

0:34:35.680 --> 0:34:39.120
<v Speaker 1>great babyface, and he cuts his promo about how I

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<v Speaker 1>watched my own documentary. I didn't realize what people thought

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<v Speaker 1>about me. And you know what, you guys are my

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<v Speaker 1>new family, and I you know, I'm not happy I

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<v Speaker 1>lost the title, but I can win it back. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm unhappy about is I've disappointed my family,

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<v Speaker 1>and my family.

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<v Speaker 9>Was robbed of that title.

0:34:56.680 --> 0:35:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Therefore, Finn get out here for a beating. And Finn

0:35:01.000 --> 0:35:04.040
<v Speaker 1>appears on the big screen and he says, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>ain't I ain't coming out there tonight, But I got

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<v Speaker 1>somebody who's gonna take you out tonight, and it's j D.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm just gonna wait until you're safe and comfortable,

0:35:14.840 --> 0:35:17.400
<v Speaker 1>and then I'm gonna jump you from behind and stab

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<v Speaker 1>you in the back over and over again. And up

0:35:19.800 --> 0:35:25.719
<v Speaker 1>walks Carlito, JD Live and Dom. They're all laughing. The

0:35:25.840 --> 0:35:29.880
<v Speaker 1>new Judgment day, Priest is furious and he storms to

0:35:29.920 --> 0:35:30.320
<v Speaker 1>the back.

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<v Speaker 3>This was an aesthetically great deal with Priest the entire time,

0:35:36.360 --> 0:35:39.759
<v Speaker 3>rallying up the fans who responded to everything, and then

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<v Speaker 3>the promo with everybody coming in at the end just

0:35:42.880 --> 0:35:46.000
<v Speaker 3>to rub it in Priest's phase. I thought was awesome.

0:35:46.920 --> 0:35:49.080
<v Speaker 1>And we had Peers on the phone and Bronson walks

0:35:49.080 --> 0:35:51.319
<v Speaker 1>out and he goes, how come I beat Seamus last

0:35:51.360 --> 0:35:53.760
<v Speaker 1>week and Seamus gets a match nine I got nothing,

0:35:54.440 --> 0:35:56.600
<v Speaker 1>and pre says, well, you know the match was already signed,

0:35:57.600 --> 0:36:03.279
<v Speaker 1>and so Bronson says, well, it's clear. If I want

0:36:03.280 --> 0:36:05.319
<v Speaker 1>to get to the top, I got to create my

0:36:05.360 --> 0:36:11.360
<v Speaker 1>own path and he walks out Shana and Lyra. This

0:36:11.520 --> 0:36:13.560
<v Speaker 1>was like the only bad thing on the show. Actually no,

0:36:13.760 --> 0:36:16.719
<v Speaker 1>there was actually another match that nobody cared about, but

0:36:16.920 --> 0:36:20.759
<v Speaker 1>uh no real heat and then adiqu finish and then

0:36:20.960 --> 0:36:22.239
<v Speaker 1>damage Control made the save.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, this was pointless.

0:36:25.520 --> 0:36:28.640
<v Speaker 1>Then we had Ivy Nile meeting with the Creeds and

0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:32.799
<v Speaker 1>old Maxine walks up. She says and I quote, I

0:36:32.800 --> 0:36:35.560
<v Speaker 1>haven't seen you for weeks, and the Creed brothers have

0:36:35.640 --> 0:36:39.000
<v Speaker 1>been viciously attacking Tozawa and Oties.

0:36:39.520 --> 0:36:40.440
<v Speaker 3>Howled with laughter.

0:36:41.200 --> 0:36:43.920
<v Speaker 1>She gets dragged away by Gable. So they're playing up

0:36:43.960 --> 0:36:47.200
<v Speaker 1>that Ivy Nile doesn't want anything to do with these heels.

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<v Speaker 9>Just you wait.

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<v Speaker 1>See him. Punk came out, He's all happy. Why is

0:36:53.120 --> 0:36:57.320
<v Speaker 1>he happy? Well, he claimed that I was supposed to

0:36:57.400 --> 0:37:03.960
<v Speaker 1>be out for nine months and I made it back five. Well,

0:37:04.040 --> 0:37:09.360
<v Speaker 1>here we go anyway, So he wants to fight Drew.

0:37:09.440 --> 0:37:12.440
<v Speaker 1>It's not splitting hers, he said, every time, tell me

0:37:12.440 --> 0:37:15.799
<v Speaker 1>what I'm telling lies. So if you ask for people

0:37:15.840 --> 0:37:18.200
<v Speaker 1>to tell you when you're telling lies, he's telling a

0:37:18.239 --> 0:37:20.520
<v Speaker 1>lie here, and he told another lie later.

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<v Speaker 3>You know you said the same thing and you respond

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<v Speaker 3>kind of in this nevermind.

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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead, hey, tell me what I'm telling lies? He

0:37:27.920 --> 0:37:31.520
<v Speaker 1>told a lie. What's going on here?

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<v Speaker 3>God's hitting you with lightning?

0:37:35.080 --> 0:37:38.759
<v Speaker 1>That's something else. Oh okay. So then he calls out

0:37:38.800 --> 0:37:41.680
<v Speaker 1>Seth or actually no, he calls out Drew, but Seth

0:37:41.719 --> 0:37:45.560
<v Speaker 1>comes out instead and Seth no stupid outfit, no dancing.

0:37:45.960 --> 0:37:48.440
<v Speaker 1>He wants to fight, and he's about to get in

0:37:48.480 --> 0:37:50.000
<v Speaker 1>the ring, and all of a sudden, Drew shows up

0:37:50.040 --> 0:37:53.400
<v Speaker 1>in the crowd, and Drew starts trolling both of these nerds,

0:37:53.719 --> 0:37:55.680
<v Speaker 1>and they want to fight each other, but Drew's like

0:37:55.719 --> 0:37:59.040
<v Speaker 1>going on and on, and then finally Drew he holds

0:37:59.160 --> 0:38:01.839
<v Speaker 1>up the bracelet and now Punk can take no more

0:38:01.880 --> 0:38:04.600
<v Speaker 1>and he bolts out of the ring. He chases Drew

0:38:04.680 --> 0:38:07.920
<v Speaker 1>through the crowd, and then we had the greatest rob moment.

0:38:08.719 --> 0:38:12.839
<v Speaker 1>Maybe in years, this would have only been better if

0:38:12.840 --> 0:38:17.720
<v Speaker 1>Seth had been wearing a stupid outfit. Seth is alone

0:38:17.719 --> 0:38:21.000
<v Speaker 1>in the ring because Punk has gone after Drew. All

0:38:21.040 --> 0:38:24.520
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, he is blindsided by Bronson. Bronson runs

0:38:24.520 --> 0:38:28.560
<v Speaker 1>this dude over. Seth tries to fight back. Bronson kills him.

0:38:28.880 --> 0:38:32.640
<v Speaker 1>He hits two sentans and then he lays him out

0:38:32.680 --> 0:38:35.120
<v Speaker 1>and he goes up and he crushes him with the tsunami,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he gets up and he starts climbing again,

0:38:39.520 --> 0:38:41.200
<v Speaker 1>and he gets to the top and he hits a

0:38:41.239 --> 0:38:44.440
<v Speaker 1>second tsunami. So now all these nerds come down to

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<v Speaker 1>try to save Seth. He's been tsunami twice. And they

0:38:48.120 --> 0:38:50.880
<v Speaker 1>pull Bronson out of the ring and they're they're bringing

0:38:50.920 --> 0:38:53.360
<v Speaker 1>him up the ramp, and all of a sudden, Bronson

0:38:53.400 --> 0:38:55.680
<v Speaker 1>makes a break for it and he runs down to

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<v Speaker 1>the ring and he starts climbing, and all the dudes

0:38:57.920 --> 0:39:01.000
<v Speaker 1>are looking up like, oh no, like tending to Seth.

0:39:01.440 --> 0:39:03.880
<v Speaker 1>Bronson doesn't care. He jumps and they all go running

0:39:04.120 --> 0:39:09.200
<v Speaker 1>and he crushes Seth a third time. He tsunamied him

0:39:09.200 --> 0:39:12.000
<v Speaker 1>a third time. Now the crowd's like, this is awesome.

0:39:12.000 --> 0:39:14.480
<v Speaker 1>They're chanting, this is awesome. So he jumps up and

0:39:14.520 --> 0:39:18.319
<v Speaker 1>he starts climbing again. He hits a fourth one. Now

0:39:18.360 --> 0:39:21.880
<v Speaker 1>the place is going crazy. He goes up a fifth time.

0:39:22.320 --> 0:39:26.000
<v Speaker 1>He hits a fifth tsunami. So by the fifth tsunami,

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<v Speaker 1>like the crowds just they're chanting. One more time, so

0:39:29.440 --> 0:39:32.759
<v Speaker 1>he goes up a sixth time. He gives him a

0:39:32.840 --> 0:39:37.760
<v Speaker 1>sixth tsunami, and Seth is spitting up blood. He's gagging,

0:39:37.880 --> 0:39:41.360
<v Speaker 1>he's vomiting blood all over the place, and Bronson he

0:39:41.520 --> 0:39:44.160
<v Speaker 1>tries one more time, but this time everybody grabs Seth

0:39:44.200 --> 0:39:46.239
<v Speaker 1>and they pull his carcass out of the ring to

0:39:46.360 --> 0:39:51.680
<v Speaker 1>save his life. This was so great. This was so

0:39:51.880 --> 0:39:54.560
<v Speaker 1>great that, like, I think everyone's kind of liked Bronson

0:39:54.640 --> 0:39:56.759
<v Speaker 1>Reid and everything like that, and you know he'll have

0:39:56.800 --> 0:40:00.400
<v Speaker 1>good hoss matches and everything, but man, this was like

0:40:01.200 --> 0:40:03.640
<v Speaker 1>this guy was a main eventor they turned him into

0:40:03.680 --> 0:40:07.680
<v Speaker 1>a main eventor in one night, crushing this geek six times,

0:40:08.040 --> 0:40:10.439
<v Speaker 1>and Seth is like, he is at the top, He's

0:40:10.480 --> 0:40:14.839
<v Speaker 1>the top guy. And Bronson just ruined this dude. And

0:40:14.880 --> 0:40:16.719
<v Speaker 1>I think Seth will probably be out for a little while.

0:40:17.360 --> 0:40:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Played it up big, like it was a big time

0:40:19.040 --> 0:40:21.920
<v Speaker 1>injury angle. He should be out for a wild cat,

0:40:22.120 --> 0:40:23.560
<v Speaker 1>he should be out for the rest of the year.

0:40:24.680 --> 0:40:28.120
<v Speaker 1>Bronson was just the greatest here. This was awesome. So

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<v Speaker 1>then they go to break. They come back and Pierce

0:40:30.000 --> 0:40:32.360
<v Speaker 1>is trying to get an update and Punk walks up

0:40:32.400 --> 0:40:36.000
<v Speaker 1>and he's screaming and he wants to know where Drew is.

0:40:36.040 --> 0:40:38.279
<v Speaker 1>And Pierce says, I personally walked him out of the building.

0:40:38.280 --> 0:40:41.279
<v Speaker 1>He's gone, he's not here tonight, and Punk says, I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to talk to him. It's like, that's another one.

0:40:44.680 --> 0:40:46.879
<v Speaker 1>You are telling a lie. You do not just want

0:40:46.920 --> 0:40:50.080
<v Speaker 1>to talk to drewmic Attire. You want to murder him.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's best that you guys are kept apart aop

0:40:54.360 --> 0:40:57.360
<v Speaker 1>versus the New Day. It's another one here. I'm like,

0:40:57.520 --> 0:40:59.960
<v Speaker 1>who could possibly care? They've been trying to build the

0:41:00.160 --> 0:41:04.080
<v Speaker 1>feud for like three months, four months. Nobody cares about

0:41:04.080 --> 0:41:06.799
<v Speaker 1>this feud at all now we're watching AOP in the

0:41:06.840 --> 0:41:10.160
<v Speaker 1>New day, like, oh my god. And so it ends

0:41:10.280 --> 0:41:13.360
<v Speaker 1>up with the heels. They just keep interfering, interfering, carrying

0:41:13.400 --> 0:41:17.360
<v Speaker 1>Cross pushes Woods off the top. All of a sudden,

0:41:17.560 --> 0:41:22.520
<v Speaker 1>who should show up but Odyssey Jones. And Odyssey Jones

0:41:22.520 --> 0:41:27.280
<v Speaker 1>shows up, and man, he destroyed these heels and AOP

0:41:27.520 --> 0:41:32.040
<v Speaker 1>are big frickin' dudes, and he ruined these guys. It

0:41:32.080 --> 0:41:35.960
<v Speaker 1>was incredible and double side sup, I mean everything. He

0:41:36.040 --> 0:41:37.320
<v Speaker 1>looked like a million bucks.

0:41:37.680 --> 0:41:41.000
<v Speaker 3>AOP is huge. And for those people who haven't seen

0:41:41.040 --> 0:41:43.479
<v Speaker 3>Odyssey Jones and you have not in a long time,

0:41:43.560 --> 0:41:45.799
<v Speaker 3>since he's been on the main roster for months and

0:41:45.840 --> 0:41:49.280
<v Speaker 3>they haven't used him. He picks up one dude as

0:41:49.400 --> 0:41:54.000
<v Speaker 3>r I guess or whatever and uh whatever, both of

0:41:54.040 --> 0:41:57.080
<v Speaker 3>them under each arm, picks one up, then the other

0:41:57.120 --> 0:42:01.400
<v Speaker 3>one up, then delivers the sidewalk slams. It was visually

0:42:01.640 --> 0:42:03.680
<v Speaker 3>an incredible, incredible moment.

0:42:03.960 --> 0:42:06.399
<v Speaker 1>So he looks awesome and then they go backstage later

0:42:06.920 --> 0:42:08.439
<v Speaker 1>and Woods is like, I didn't even know you guys

0:42:08.440 --> 0:42:10.120
<v Speaker 1>were friends. Cobe He's like, yeah, we were at the

0:42:10.239 --> 0:42:12.440
<v Speaker 1>Performance Center together. I met him. I told him you

0:42:12.440 --> 0:42:16.400
<v Speaker 1>were having problems with this final testimony or whatever testament,

0:42:16.719 --> 0:42:18.480
<v Speaker 1>and and he came up to help, and you can

0:42:18.520 --> 0:42:21.640
<v Speaker 1>see Woods is like, I don't need this dude's help.

0:42:22.480 --> 0:42:25.040
<v Speaker 1>What have you got another friend for? But he smiles.

0:42:25.719 --> 0:42:29.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, Wow, this is a good storyline. He's about

0:42:29.600 --> 0:42:33.760
<v Speaker 1>to snap. JD cut the best promo of his whole career,

0:42:34.320 --> 0:42:37.480
<v Speaker 1>and he talked about Priest and he's had he's had

0:42:37.520 --> 0:42:40.000
<v Speaker 1>like eight months of anger at Priest built up, and

0:42:40.040 --> 0:42:43.480
<v Speaker 1>now he just cuts. He just slices and dices this guy.

0:42:43.520 --> 0:42:45.759
<v Speaker 1>You didn't want me in your cool club. I was

0:42:45.800 --> 0:42:47.719
<v Speaker 1>the only guy Finn would listen to. He listens to

0:42:47.760 --> 0:42:51.880
<v Speaker 1>me before you. Now I'm gonna get my revenge because

0:42:52.000 --> 0:42:54.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm in this group and you're out and I'm a

0:42:54.239 --> 0:42:59.440
<v Speaker 1>champion and you've got nothing. It was awesome, aytow him down,

0:42:59.440 --> 0:43:00.239
<v Speaker 1>an awesome true ruth.

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<v Speaker 9>Whatever who cares got too much to talk about.

0:43:03.600 --> 0:43:05.759
<v Speaker 1>Bron Breaker cuts the promo. It's gonna be him and

0:43:05.840 --> 0:43:08.879
<v Speaker 1>Sammy Zain in a two out of three falls match

0:43:08.920 --> 0:43:11.919
<v Speaker 1>next week, which I think very well could be two

0:43:11.960 --> 0:43:16.200
<v Speaker 1>straight falls for bron Breaker. Then Damian Priest and JD.

0:43:16.880 --> 0:43:19.080
<v Speaker 1>They had a bad finish when Finn ran in for

0:43:19.120 --> 0:43:22.760
<v Speaker 1>the DQ, but this post match was great. Priest tries

0:43:22.800 --> 0:43:25.160
<v Speaker 1>to beat these guys up, but it's four on one.

0:43:25.719 --> 0:43:28.440
<v Speaker 1>They're pounding him down the New Judgment Day. They're killing

0:43:28.520 --> 0:43:31.520
<v Speaker 1>him and he finally goes for the edge, but Live

0:43:31.600 --> 0:43:34.239
<v Speaker 1>makes the save, and so Priest and Liver are going

0:43:34.320 --> 0:43:37.239
<v Speaker 1>face to face and Dom Chop locks Priest and they're

0:43:37.280 --> 0:43:39.240
<v Speaker 1>beating on him, and all of a sudden, Rio Ripley's

0:43:39.320 --> 0:43:43.080
<v Speaker 1>music hits place goes crazy and she grabs Live and

0:43:43.120 --> 0:43:46.480
<v Speaker 1>she's destroying her. She goes to power Bomber through the table,

0:43:46.640 --> 0:43:49.799
<v Speaker 1>but Dom makes the save and they go running, and

0:43:49.840 --> 0:43:52.240
<v Speaker 1>then in the ring, Priest is like he's still getting

0:43:52.239 --> 0:43:54.759
<v Speaker 1>beaten down. So Riha gets in the ring and JD

0:43:54.920 --> 0:43:57.120
<v Speaker 1>goes face to face with her and she ends up

0:43:57.320 --> 0:44:00.000
<v Speaker 1>boom meeting him with a head butt. He stumbles backwards.

0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:03.120
<v Speaker 1>Priest hits him with this gigantic South of Heaven. This

0:44:03.400 --> 0:44:06.880
<v Speaker 1>building is shaking, and then Rhea and Priest do the

0:44:06.880 --> 0:44:09.240
<v Speaker 1>big hug and everybody's going crazy.

0:44:09.960 --> 0:44:11.280
<v Speaker 9>This was awesome.

0:44:11.560 --> 0:44:13.640
<v Speaker 3>They gotta do Rha and Tom. I know they don't

0:44:13.760 --> 0:44:16.640
<v Speaker 3>like the man woman thing, but come on Ria against

0:44:16.640 --> 0:44:17.520
<v Speaker 3>Dom please.

0:44:18.480 --> 0:44:21.719
<v Speaker 1>We had Eo Sky and Sonya Deville eo onon that

0:44:22.160 --> 0:44:25.239
<v Speaker 1>the Heels had beaten up to kodabackstage. I was told

0:44:25.800 --> 0:44:28.600
<v Speaker 1>is not hurt. I was immediately thinking she'd torn her

0:44:28.600 --> 0:44:31.399
<v Speaker 1>acl again, but she did not. And then the main

0:44:31.400 --> 0:44:35.000
<v Speaker 1>event was Joe Gacy, Dexter and the Vintnor against Chad

0:44:35.000 --> 0:44:38.400
<v Speaker 1>Gable and the Creeds. And it was a fine match.

0:44:39.000 --> 0:44:41.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there was no magic, there was no hocus pocus.

0:44:42.239 --> 0:44:47.279
<v Speaker 1>The Babyfaces beat up the Creeds, they pinned Gable. Everybody

0:44:47.400 --> 0:44:50.080
<v Speaker 1>was happy like it was a good little segment. We

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<v Speaker 1>can talk more about after the break Observer Live.

0:45:17.520 --> 0:45:21.040
<v Speaker 2>You were listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez

0:45:21.080 --> 0:45:24.800
<v Speaker 2>and Mike simper viv on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.

0:45:27.000 --> 0:45:29.320
<v Speaker 1>So yes, that was a quite enjoyable edition of Monday

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<v Speaker 1>Night Raw. Hell, we gotta follow up SmackDown coming up

0:45:32.840 --> 0:45:38.239
<v Speaker 1>on Friday with Roman Rains. He's gonna be on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>And we know anything else, but I do know, I

0:45:42.360 --> 0:45:45.120
<v Speaker 1>do know tonight is a great American bash Knight too.

0:45:45.400 --> 0:45:49.080
<v Speaker 1>We have got ethan Page versus Oromnsa, my main man

0:45:49.080 --> 0:45:53.080
<v Speaker 1>Oro Mensa for the next TA title, Nathan Frazer an

0:45:53.080 --> 0:45:56.480
<v Speaker 1>Acient versus Wes Lee, and Zach Wentz. That could be

0:45:56.480 --> 0:46:01.759
<v Speaker 1>a title change Colonniey Jordan versus Tatum Pack next to

0:46:01.920 --> 0:46:07.360
<v Speaker 1>Women's North American title. Joe Hendry versus Joe Coffee Battle

0:46:07.360 --> 0:46:11.320
<v Speaker 1>of Joe's. Do you realize the guy's name is Joe Coffee?

0:46:12.120 --> 0:46:14.560
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god. They should have a cup for that.

0:46:14.640 --> 0:46:16.720
<v Speaker 3>It could be the Coffee the Joe Cup.

0:46:17.960 --> 0:46:20.839
<v Speaker 1>Joe Coffee is his name, yes.

0:46:20.719 --> 0:46:22.360
<v Speaker 3>And then he can win it and it could become

0:46:22.600 --> 0:46:25.239
<v Speaker 3>the Coffee Cup. But his name is Joe. There's all

0:46:25.280 --> 0:46:27.719
<v Speaker 3>of these coffee meanings here. It's amazing.

0:46:27.880 --> 0:46:32.160
<v Speaker 1>Trick Williams versus Pete Dunn and Kendall Gray versus Wren

0:46:32.400 --> 0:46:36.160
<v Speaker 1>Sinclair they booked for us I think they did. And

0:46:36.200 --> 0:46:39.279
<v Speaker 1>then tomorrow on Dynamite we have Brian Danielson Jeff here

0:46:39.360 --> 0:46:42.120
<v Speaker 1>No d e Q with Ricky Steamboat as a special

0:46:42.120 --> 0:46:46.719
<v Speaker 1>guest referee. I like that MGF versus Kyle Fletcher in

0:46:46.840 --> 0:46:52.680
<v Speaker 1>a title eliminator, and Shamata versus Brian Keith because Brian

0:46:52.760 --> 0:46:55.279
<v Speaker 1>seeks revenge for his broken face against the man who

0:46:55.280 --> 0:46:58.840
<v Speaker 1>broke his face by threatening to break his face. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>we back tomorrow with more, everybody. I'll be back tonight

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<v Speaker 1>Brian and Me and Granny and Craig and Shawn show.

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<v Speaker 1>Prime Time wrestling will be covered tonight. That'll be a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of fun and that's it. I want to thank

0:47:10.440 --> 0:47:12.360
<v Speaker 1>everybody for listening. We'll talk to you next time Wrestling

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