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It is back September twenty 12 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: third and twenty fourth at T Mobile Arena in Las Vegas. 13 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: Two nights, one stage live performances by Avril Levine, Black 14 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 1: Eyed Peas, Halsey, Lionel, Richie, The Lionel Richie ll Cool, 15 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: j Luke Combs, Nicki Minah, so many more, The Black Keys, 16 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: Meghan d Stallion, Sam Smith. It is a wonderful lineup 17 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: including Pat Benatar. You can buy tickets at Axs dot com. 18 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: All the info is at iHeartRadio dot com, Forward Slash festival, 19 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: and I started with that because if you don't know me, 20 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: I know it's been many years at this point, but 21 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 1: I myself and also producer to Walla Sharp. We both 22 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: came from the music business. I worked on the label side, 23 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: working with labels like Capitol Records, Warner Brothers Records, Version Records, 24 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: Interscope Records, Los Angeles Chamber Orchestra, and Twalla. Sharp worked 25 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: in urban radio radio stations, putting hip hop and R 26 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: and B music on the radio. He's responsible for a 27 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: lot of hits that you may know over the years. 28 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: And so we come at this next subject from a 29 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: very distinct perspective. And I can say this unequivocally that 30 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: what we're about to tell you will be the most 31 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: in depth and earnest conversation of the recent sentencing of R. 32 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: Kelly that you would get anywhere on K five Barne Barnin. 33 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: I throw in some other stations, but I'm not sure, 34 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: but I'm pretty sure about this one. R Kelly, as 35 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: you know at this point, has been sentenced to thirty 36 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: years in prison for sex trafficking, and that's saying nothing 37 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: of his future trial in August second federal trial, and 38 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:22,399 Speaker 1: he also has a state trial coming up in Minnesota. 39 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: Long story short, he will die in prison. I can 40 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: say that confidently, and I don't say that to celebrate. 41 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: I don't say that with a hint of glee. I 42 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: think it's a very sad story, given what we're getting 43 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: ready to tell you R Kelly. And I say this 44 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: as someone who worked in the music business during his 45 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: height and heyday. I say this as someone who worked 46 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: with him against my own desire when he was coming 47 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: out with his own autobiography called Solo Coaster, which was 48 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: printed on Tavis Smiley's hay House print books. So he 49 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: did it with Tavis Smiley. And I was Tavis Smiley's 50 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: senior radio producer at that time, So I was dealing 51 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: with R. Kelly. Then you t Wallace Sharp, we're dealing 52 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 1: with R Kelly Winn during my time as the music 53 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: directors Lash assistant program director at then radio station ninety 54 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: two point three to Beat turned one hundred point three 55 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: to Beat, responsible for quite possibly every single record that 56 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 1: you heard from him in the city of Los Angeles 57 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 1: and any surrounding area. We broke those records. We were 58 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: the R Kelly station. You dealt with him directly, did 59 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: you not directly have done show promotions with R Kelly, 60 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:46,119 Speaker 1: have done any number of private club events that were 61 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: hosted by our featuring R Kelly, have been in his 62 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: presence multiple times. This is what we need to tell you. 63 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: There are some people who are going to say that 64 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: the sentence of R Kelly for thirty years for sex 65 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: traffic is unfair when compared to Guilay Maxwell's sentence for 66 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: twenty years for sexual track for sexual trafficking. Yes and no, 67 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: not going to do all that. Don't have time for 68 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: that analysis. But this is what I will say. R 69 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: Kelly was a known sexual predator for decades. Yeah, for decades. 70 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: He may have been sentenced in twenty twenty two, but 71 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: this goes back to the nineteen nineties. I can say 72 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: that confidently for certain without a fact. Well, MO, why 73 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: didn't you do something I did? I had a column 74 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: with euarweb dot com which I wrote consistently talking about 75 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: how R Kelly needs to be in jail. I even 76 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 1: said it during his original child pornography trial of two 77 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: thousand and eight, before I even came to KFI and iHeartMedia. 78 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: So I was the one who was on the front 79 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: lines fighting to get this guy put in jail because 80 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: it was known that he was a predator. It was 81 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 1: non that he was a groomer before they even applied 82 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: that terminology to anyone. He was that guy who was 83 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: literally combing junior high schools four victims. He was sending 84 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: out people in his entourage to find girls to bring 85 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 1: to him. I didn't say young women. I'm talking about 86 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: girls twelve thirteen years old. And when I was working 87 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: at Interscope Records, this was maybe nineteen ninety nine, two 88 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: thousand ish, there was a discussion if you already know this, 89 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: then you know where I'm going. There was this tape 90 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: which was circulating in the music industry, which allegedly was 91 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: a VHS tape allegedly depicted R Kelly having sex with 92 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 1: a young woman slash minor. There. It was unclear whether 93 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: the female in the video was of age or not, 94 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: but it had been circulating around the music industry. As 95 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: time went on, it came out that the girl was 96 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 1: under age, and when it came out it was she 97 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: was under age, R Kelly started publicly denying that that 98 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: was him in the video. When it was clear it 99 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: was him in the video, it was circulated everywhere. I'm 100 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: just trying to give you some time in historical context 101 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: that he was a known sexual predator for the better 102 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 1: part of a half a century. When that video was 103 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 1: first being rumored that it existed. The aunt of said girl, 104 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: an artist by the name of Sparkle, who we played 105 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: all the time on the beat. She was an artist 106 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: that had been discovered by R. Kelly. She came on 107 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: our station with air personality, a demo to break this 108 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: story and said the story that you were hearing, this 109 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: is my niece. It is true, every single thing. And 110 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:56,359 Speaker 1: this young lady caught hell for breaking this story. A 111 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: demo caught hell. Our station caught hell. We were all 112 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 1: the fingers. Everyone in the black music industry and the 113 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: city of Los Angeles came at our station. How dare 114 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: you this is alleged? This is that the other defending 115 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: R Kelly who was Kay, Yes, he was, he was. 116 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: This is I believe I can fly R Kelly right. 117 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: He could do no wrong. Okay. Then Sparkle brought the 118 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: tape to us and said, tell me, that's not R. Kelly. 119 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: Clear as day, without watching his actions, you could see 120 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: that it was him. That's my brother. Oh no, sir, 121 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: that is you, we stopped playing his music. When we 122 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: come back, we're want to tell you more about that 123 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: tape and how the community rallied to defend him, and 124 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: also the allegations of R. Kelly witness tampering and also 125 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: paying off members of the jury and other witnesses so 126 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: he could gain that acquittal in two thousand and eight 127 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: under child pornography Chargers, which set the stage for all 128 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: the events in between then and now and all the 129 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: other subsequent victims. You're not gonna be able to hear 130 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: about this anywhere else other than here on the Johnny 131 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: Kin Show. MO Kelly in for Johnny Kin k IF 132 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: I am six forty. We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 133 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: We have your chance to win more money when we 134 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: come back. Before the break, we were talking about R Kelly. 135 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: I was going to use my history working around and 136 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: with R Kelly to talk about his recent sentencing and 137 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: put it in a context you've probably not heard or 138 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: known for lack of a better word, And also to 139 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: Walla Sharp, who's producing the show today, I've asked him 140 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: to add his expertise as a former R and B 141 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: and hip hop radio programmer, broke just about every single 142 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: R Kelly hit an other words, if you heard R. 143 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: Kelly in LA, he had something to do with it. 144 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: For some perspective, not to gas ourselves, but just a 145 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: statement of fact. Going back to this videotape which depicted 146 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: who was thought to be R. Kelly and a girl 147 00:08:56,600 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 1: or woman it was not originally known, engaging in a 148 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: number of sexual acts. To bring you back up to 149 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: speed to all, I was telling us about an artist 150 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 1: by the name of Sparkle who had come to his 151 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:14,079 Speaker 1: station specifically to let everyone know on the air that 152 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: the girl was subsequently known the girl that tape, that 153 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: VHS tape was her niece, and yes was under age, 154 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: and yes, that was Robert Kelly in the video. And 155 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: from that many people in the music community, specifically the 156 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: African American music community. This is before R. Kelly was 157 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: the worldwide star or he was right on the precipice, 158 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: I would say, yea, and many people came to his 159 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: defense in the way that people came to the defense 160 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: of Michael Jackson, in the way that people came to 161 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: defense of other stars. We're going to tie all this 162 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: together eventually defending them because people were more caught up 163 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: in the music, in the artistry, and not looking for 164 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: looking at it for what it was the fact that 165 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: he was and still is actually a sexual predator of 166 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: the worst kind, praying on young girls. What happened after 167 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: that is because of that tape, he was indicted and 168 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: went to trial on child pornography charges. There have been 169 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: any number of published reports. You can verify this that 170 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: Kelly's people, including R Kelly, either paid off members of 171 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: the jury or paid off and threatened witnesses not to testify, 172 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: including the niece in question who was pictured in the video, 173 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: to not testify, and so he was able to get 174 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: an acquittal. And I wrote about this extensively, staying, you've 175 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: just opened the door for more victims. Now he is 176 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: virtually untouchable. And since that time, when we talk about 177 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: the thirty years sentence that he received and how it 178 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: is or is not unfair comparatively speaking with Gilay Maxwell 179 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: who got twenty years, Robert Kelly was not only the 180 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: Gilay Maxwell of his sex ring. He was the Jeffrey 181 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: seen as well. He was the financier, he was the participant, 182 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: he was the abuser. He was every facet of what 183 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: was going on. He was the one who was literally 184 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: the jailer of these girls, keeping them in like a 185 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: dungeon basement in his house, refusing to let them even 186 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: speak to their families, inflicting physical violence on them. The 187 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: stories are all true, They're numerous. There have been a 188 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: number of documentaries in later years which have helped. But we, 189 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: when I say we within the professional community and the 190 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: creative community, have known this for many years and we've 191 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: been screaming, I know you, and your station said we're 192 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: not playing his music. You know what's verses. Every single 193 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: person who is a fan of R. Kelly actually knows 194 00:11:54,000 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: this Halmo because of his what marriage to then recording 195 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:06,839 Speaker 1: artist Aliah, who was underage at the time of their marriage. 196 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: Let's be specific, she was fifteen years old. That's underage, 197 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:14,479 Speaker 1: except except they went to a county I can remember 198 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: where off the top of their head, where it supposedly 199 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: was legal there. But they also lied for that marriage 200 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 1: life they did. They did. So when we talk about R. 201 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: Kelly in the continuum of his behavior, you have to 202 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: talk about the fullness of his behavior. When he was 203 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 1: sentenced for thirty years, honestly, he should have been sentenced 204 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: for three hundred years and he may get that when 205 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: all is said and done. That's why there has been 206 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: such a I would say, this loud silence from his 207 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: supporters what changed the trajectory of this story. I would 208 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: say there's a man by the name of George Daniels. 209 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:57,439 Speaker 1: He is a record a music store owner called George's 210 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: Music Room in Chicago, where our Ellie's from, and George 211 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: Daniels was responsible for breaking, when I say breaking, making 212 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: him popular in the Star in Chicago selling his music. 213 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,319 Speaker 1: George Daniels had found out somewhere along the way that R. 214 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: Kelly was grooming George's daughter and somehow brought his daughter 215 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: into the fold. That's when George Daniels, who is highly 216 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: respected with the most respected people within the music industry. 217 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: So if you don't believe, just just google George Daniels 218 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: George's Music Room so you have some perspective. When he 219 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 1: came out specifically, I think it was an interview on KJLH, 220 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: a local radio station, where he told the story of 221 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 1: how R. Kelly was a sexual predator, came after his daughter, 222 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: and so forth. I think that's when it started to change. 223 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: Because George's reputation was above reproach is above reproach, and 224 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:00,040 Speaker 1: people began to see it for what it was and 225 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: could no longer deny it. And R. Kelly was on 226 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: the downside of his musical career in the sense of 227 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: being the moneymaker and paying for the lives of so 228 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: many people who could not pay off as many people 229 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:16,079 Speaker 1: as he once could allegedly so he did not have 230 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: the ability to keep this under control. And also the 231 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: polariferation of social media in the way that it took 232 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: a virality, the viral nature of social media for this 233 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: to turn into something Just like Bill Cosby. I think 234 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: this was a similar instance where he could no longer 235 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: control the message or his perception. Yeah, yes, and know 236 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: all you what about what about Harvey Weinstein? Well, yes, 237 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: Harvey Weinstein is going down too, So are you happy 238 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: when we come back? We're going to I would say, 239 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: juxtaposed the R. Kelly story with something which is going 240 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: on right now. We're trying to tell you now, take 241 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: a look at this right now, because it has all 242 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: the same ear marks of an R. Kelly or Bill Cosby. 243 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: We're telling you now so you don't have to wait 244 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: and find out. Oh my gosh, this has been going 245 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: on for years. We're telling you right now, and we're 246 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: looking at it through the lens of people. It's like 247 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: I've seen this before. I recognize the wallpaper. It's the 248 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: exact same frickin thing. It just a different name. And 249 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: you have a Hollywood corporate structure bending over backwards to 250 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: protect this money maker to the detriment of many victims. Allegedly. 251 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: This is the John and Ken Show, M kelly and 252 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: for John kN K if I am six forty, we're 253 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: live everywhere on the iHeartRadio at m'kelly in for John 254 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: and Ken. And if you go to my Twitter right 255 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: now at mister m'kelly rmok E l L Y. I 256 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: just tweeted out an article I wrote more than a 257 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: decade ago about R. Kelly, some of the history, how 258 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: his road manager and other people had come out against him. 259 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: This is more than a decade ago, more than a 260 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: decade so this is how much of an open secret, 261 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: if you will, his issues, his crimes now we can 262 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: say were and how it had gone basically unaddressed and 263 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: people were denying it and believed everyone believed R Kelly 264 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: at the expense of everyone else. Everyone else had to 265 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: have been lying. I have been saying this for the 266 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: better part of fifteen years. So when someone today says 267 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: it's unfair what they're doing to RK. Kelly, he gets 268 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: thirty years and Gilay Maxwell only got twenty. You have 269 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: no idea the depth of the depravity and the links 270 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: set at R. Kelly had gone to to stay out 271 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: of jail, including allegedly bribing witnesses and victims to avoid 272 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: going to jail for child pornography having nothing to do 273 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: with the actual having sex with a minor on camera. 274 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: It was just child pornography to get out of that 275 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: back in two thousand and eight. You have no idea 276 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: how evil this man is. The lengths that they went through, 277 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: allegedly even threatening individuals in Chicago mob style. There is 278 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: so many things that this individual went through, and I 279 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: get it the same way people try to rally behind 280 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: Bill Cosby when we started the Cosby Files and just 281 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 1: I've been talking different media individuals, different people within you know, 282 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: the black press NonStop. You're just trying to tear a 283 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: black man. It's like, how about we're telling the truth. 284 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: This many people can't be lying. If one of them 285 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 1: is telling the truth, it's enough for him to get 286 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 1: off of that soapbox and stop telling people to pull 287 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: their pants up when you're busy pulling girls pants down. No, sir, oh, no, sir. 288 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: This individual R Kelly. When we started talking about this man, 289 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 1: when it first started, when twala, why aren't you playing 290 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 1: this music anymore? And that's why as you're playing all 291 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: this other music from rappers and this then the other 292 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: sure are bad people for a bad packer. We yes, 293 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: you know, yes, all the gangster rap that we played 294 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 1: and all that. But you know what, when I all 295 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 1: the tape, that was enough for me. I don't care 296 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: what you do after that. Give this man a Nobel 297 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: prize if you want to. They can build a Gael 298 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: on top of him for all I care. Now that 299 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 1: we talked about R. Kelly, we want to tell you 300 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 1: about something that's going on in the news right now 301 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: which is eerily reminiscent of things similar to R. Kelly. 302 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 1: And if you allow this to turn into another R. 303 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: Kelly situation where we wait ten years from now to 304 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: say I had no idea, this is on you. When 305 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: you first start hearing about actor Ezra Miller. Ezra Miller 306 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: had been cast as the Flash in the Justice League movie. 307 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: He was cast in one of the Harry Potter spin 308 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: off films, The Fantastic Beasts, all these different things. He's 309 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: a rising star, and then you know, you start to 310 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: find out he acts badly on set. You know, he 311 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: likes to cuss people out. And then next you know 312 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: he's in Hawaiian he's getting into fights at karaoke bars, 313 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: at karaoke bars, and say, you know, he's a she's 314 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: a wild actors, not he, it's they, they respectful, a 315 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: wild actor. Yes, they are wild. They get into it 316 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: and they have an issue with their hostilities towards others. Okay, fine, 317 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 1: an actor behaving badly, We've seen that before, all the time. Whatever. 318 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 1: But when it comes out that they are accused of 319 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: grooming a young woman beginning at the age of twelve, 320 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: where we heard that before, cult like behavior, all of 321 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 1: these things, that's when you say they are tripping. But 322 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: then you hear another story, Keep going, keep going, yet 323 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: another story where also con finement if I'm not mistaken, 324 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 1: and weapons and weapons involved hosting a young woman at 325 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: their ranch where there were weapons. One child was said 326 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 1: to have been films with a bullet in their hand, 327 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: putting in their mouth all types of while stuff is happening. 328 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: If the parents of the first child had to serve 329 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 1: this individual to keep them away from their child, and 330 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: they ran from the police, they are still hiding. They 331 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 1: have still not been served. They are busy on their 332 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: social media thumbing their nose of authorities, then they need 333 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: to be stopped. The bigger issue is Warner Brothers. How 334 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: are you then going to have a film starring them 335 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 1: as a lead character for a superhero film. I don't 336 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: care how many millions of dollars you have put into 337 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 1: this film, and then, oh, let's give some backstory. The movie, 338 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: The Flash has been often delayed and they keep pushing 339 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: it back. It's done, but because of the issues of 340 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 1: Ezra Miller, it hasn't ever received an official release date. 341 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: They keep pushing it back. They're trying to save the movie. 342 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: They actually said they meaning Warner Brothers, have said that 343 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 1: they have two different options. One they will wait for 344 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: the drama to die down, as if all to go away, 345 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: It'll go away, you know, they will stop worrying about 346 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: they meaning you, the people will stop worrying about Ezra 347 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: Miller and this hubub or release it straight to the 348 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: app you need to release it to the garbage bid. 349 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: Why is Hollywood so so protective of this horrific behavior. 350 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: Here's the real answer. You know the answer, But here's 351 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: the real answer. And sometimes it's criminal behavior, sometimes it's 352 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: protecting the golden goose. I can give these specific examples 353 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: I was talking about, and I had witnessed firsthand. This 354 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: is not like thirdhand. Heresay, firsthand the drug dependency of 355 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: which Houston witnessed. It saw it, saw Whitney and Bobby 356 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: using drugs, getting high in person. I've seen it. And 357 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: even though she was on TV talking about cracking his 358 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: whack and she didn't have a drug problem, the industry 359 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 1: coalester around here and said, no, no no, no, no, that's Whitney. 360 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 1: And I should say Arista Records, a record company coalester 361 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: around her and protected her because she was making so 362 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 1: many people, so much money, into the point where the 363 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: drug problem got out of hand. I saw her high 364 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 1: at the Grammys, showing up for rehearsals late, high, hung over, 365 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: and I said, she's gonna put herself in the dirt. 366 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: And eventually when she does die, people wake up and say, 367 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, how did this happen? How did it 368 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: get to this point because they let it happen because 369 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: they're making so much money for that entity. Ezra Miller 370 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,719 Speaker 1: is not at that point, but they were at the 371 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: precipice Ezra Miller of making that much money for Warner Brothers, 372 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: a two hundred million dollars film, a film that was 373 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:03,959 Speaker 1: arguably said to relaunch Warner Brothers troubled Superhero universe. They 374 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 1: were going to use this film, the Flash to help 375 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 1: reset things with their version of the multiverse, a flashpoint 376 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: film that could reset everything and help to write the 377 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: train wreck that has been the DC Extended Universe. No, 378 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 1: this is the Johnny Ken Show. We have a little 379 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: bit more when we come back to finish up this hour. 380 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: Mo Kelly in for Johnny kN caff I AM six 381 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: forty Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. There is a 382 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: theme which we use all these subjects together that we've 383 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: been discussing. I started today talking about the Supreme Court 384 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: and how our opinions about the Supreme Court don't necessarily 385 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 1: dictate what it is or what it was meant to be. 386 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 1: And I also talked about some of the laws locally 387 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 1: which are going into effect and how many times we 388 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: may want things which are not necessarily for the good 389 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 1: of us all, or at least we back division to 390 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 1: see how what we want may not be good long term, 391 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: or we're not necessarily give us what we want down 392 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: the road, talking about like minimum wage. The reason why 393 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: we're talking about r Kelly the headline he was sentenced 394 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 1: to thirty years. He'll probably die in jail with his 395 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: other most likely convictions which are coming and sentences which 396 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:24,199 Speaker 1: will come subsequent to that. That's the easy discussion to have. 397 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: The hard discussion is telling the truth about how it 398 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: got to this point. And if we told the truth, 399 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 1: we would have realized that there was an opportunity missed 400 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight to convict him of child 401 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: pornography and if that were done. If that were done, 402 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:48,239 Speaker 1: then all these other victims would not have happened. And 403 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 1: part of the reason why he wasn't convicted is too 404 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: many people turned a blind eye trying to protect his 405 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: career as opposed to protecting the young girls. And I 406 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,199 Speaker 1: would submit to you today is that we don't do 407 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: that anymore. It's one thing to idolize someone's talent. It's 408 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 1: another thing if you are idolizing someone's talent because you 409 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: don't want to deal with the reality of the vulgarity 410 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: and criminality of who they are at their route. R 411 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: Kelly has been a criminal for decades and it could 412 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 1: have been prevented if someone tried somewhere along the way. 413 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 1: So bringing it forward, and I'm not saying that Ezra 414 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 1: Miller is guilty of anything. I'm not saying that he 415 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: has done anything that is criminal in nature. I'm saying 416 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 1: that they Ezra Miller is possibly exhibiting some of the 417 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: similar signs that we've seen in other celebrities who have 418 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 1: then gone on to done all sorts of criminal things. 419 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: And then we look back and say, how did it happen? 420 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: How did Bill Cosby happen? How did Harvey Weinstein happen? 421 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 1: Because is a mechanism. There is a machine, if you will, 422 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: you can call it the Hollywood machine, you can call 423 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: it powerful people whomever, rich people whatever, who are protecting 424 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 1: these individuals to the detriment of you and me. People 425 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: without power, people without fame, people who can't necessarily step 426 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: in and intervene. But because of social media, there is 427 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: more power to the people in that regard. And we're 428 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 1: telling you these are. This is a situation which is 429 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: exhibiting the same signs and symptoms. It's interesting how quickly 430 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 1: everyone forgets Kristin Kruk Chloe from Smallville, Ye, who was 431 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 1: an actress on a super popular television show, Smallville's one 432 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:51,199 Speaker 1: of the most popular depictions of the character Clark Kent 433 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 1: aka who would become Superman in television history. Right, this 434 00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: show was huge, the cast huge. This young actress, one 435 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,640 Speaker 1: of the co stars of the show, had been coercing 436 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: and grooming young ladies to be part of the Texium cult, 437 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: the sex cult. Whether these young actresses young fledgedly wanted 438 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: to be actresses, were being branded and all types of 439 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 1: other stuff is happening. What Ezra Miller is being accused 440 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 1: of is right along this same It's not even apples 441 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: and oranges. It's the same thing we're talking about Washington, right, 442 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,719 Speaker 1: you know, True Reads or whatever. All I'm saying is, 443 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: how can we as a society keep allowing this type 444 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: of behavior to happen. We have to call this out. 445 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 1: And I get it. He hasn't been convicted yet, but 446 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: we have. They haven't been convicted yet. At my apologies, 447 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 1: but at a certain point in time, when are we 448 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: going to call all individuals out the way that it is? 449 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,679 Speaker 1: How many roaches do you need to see before you 450 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: know you're invested? All right? And this is what it 451 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: also comes down to. We can either be of the 452 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 1: mindset that we're going to protect children. I'm not talking 453 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: about QAnon protect children. I'm just talking about people who 454 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,360 Speaker 1: have actually demonstrated that they are dangerous. I'm not talking 455 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: about conspiracy theories. So I'm talking about people who've been 456 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 1: arrested for all types of troubling behavior. We have to 457 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: be able to take stock of that and also be 458 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: willing to say, can't do this anymore. We're not going 459 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: to allow this to grow into something where it turns 460 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: into something else anymore. And it's not a particular party, 461 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: it's not a particular industry. It has to do with 462 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: power and money. And wherever you find power and money, 463 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: you will find a Jeffrey Epstein, you will find a 464 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: Harvey Weinstein, you will find a Bill Cosby, you will 465 00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: find and R. Kelly. It's power and fame and money. 466 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: That intersection is usually what opens the door for this 467 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: type of stuff. I'm actually surprised, shocked on a daily 468 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: basis that the music industry is still a thing. The 469 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: time that you and I spent in the music industry, 470 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: the things that we have seen, be it at conventions 471 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: that we've seen, you know, backstage at concerts that we 472 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: have seen time and time again. Hell that I've seen 473 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: in the radio station that I go Wow, I'm shocked 474 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: that there's even a music industry anymore. I can only 475 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: do what I do. I've spoken out against the sexual 476 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: harassment of women at the Grammys. I was a witness 477 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: for an FBI investigation for the Grammys and National Academy 478 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: Recording Arms and Sciences. They wrote right up in the 479 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: La Times. I was not mentioned, but it was around 480 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: the investigations that I was tied to. I've spoken out 481 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: at every portion and juncture of my care rear when 482 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: I could, and I just try to do the best 483 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: I can with what I have right where I am. 484 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: But it will never be enough, because we're talking about powerful, 485 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: influential and political forces to be frank, who are or 486 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: not going to allow certain people to be reached or touched. 487 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: And that's the sad reality of it all. There's too 488 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 1: much money in entertainment, there's too much money in politics. 489 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: There's too much money in power and these other aspects 490 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: their intersection, and that's why these individuals continue to victimize 491 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: other people in this industry, in this world. Unfortunately, I'm 492 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: not saying that Ezra Miller is the next I'm saying 493 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: that Ezra Miller again is exhibiting all the same signs 494 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: of the people we've already talked about, and we say, 495 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: when is that person going to go to jail? 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