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Speaker 1: my responsibility. But now he's taking it too far. I mean,

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Speaker 1: how far are we taken? As far as you can murder?

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Speaker 1: I seventy one female. Ooo, So grainny have a son

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Speaker 1: thirty nine male, whose wife thirty six female, gave birth

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Speaker 1: to their fourth child nine months ago. All of her

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Speaker 1: births have taken a long time, and she has been

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Speaker 1: induced the last two times, including this one. My husband

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Speaker 1: seventy two male, and I were babysitting the three older kids,

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Speaker 1: five male, four female, and two females. She was induced

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Speaker 1: at eight in the morning and by one in the

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Speaker 1: afternoon there was not much progress, if any at all.

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Speaker 2: Wow, yikes.

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Speaker 1: Since the kids are a handful, I told my son

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Speaker 1: he needed to come home to help for a few

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Speaker 1: hours since it looked like it would take a really

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Speaker 2: How to be in labor for a while. Yep.

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Speaker 1: Since they live half an hour away from the hospital,

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Speaker 1: he could go back if anything happened, so it's not

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Speaker 1: like he wouldn't be present when the child was born,

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Speaker 1: which I, of course understand is a big moment for

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I understand a little bit, but like, I don't know,

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Speaker 3: I'm kind of signing with the sun. Yeah, right now,

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Speaker 3: I'm signing with the son. It's like I would want

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Speaker 3: you've been watching them for I guess just the beginning

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Speaker 4: Yeah, how hard is it? Really?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 1: I think asking your parents to watch your kids for

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Speaker 4: The weirdest regress ever.

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Speaker 1: My son took a great offense to my request and

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Speaker 1: that ever worked for us, and that there was no

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Speaker 1: never knows how long birth will take, but that he

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Speaker 1: We offered a babysit for a few hours the next day,

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Speaker 1: my son came home. After this, they have not asked

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Speaker 1: us to babysit once and has hired a sitter instead,

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Speaker 1: which we feel is a waste of money since we

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Speaker 1: are available for free, but only for a couple hours.

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Speaker 1: Are only one or two hours max? Here book of

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Speaker 1: time on my calendar. I have a pretty busy schedule,

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Speaker 1: so they probably retired. We get to see the grandkids

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Speaker 1: if we visit them, but they very seldom visit us

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Speaker 1: compared to before. I mean, you complained about looking after

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Speaker 1: how do you know It's not like this woman is

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Speaker 3: Literally, And how is she so common to like, oh,

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Speaker 3: we know that the baby's not going to be born

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Speaker 3: Maybe something happens and they start and they like it go, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know who knows? Yeah, this is ridiculous. So am

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Speaker 1: Like my son says, I am for helping us with

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Speaker 2: I want to know what all of you think.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this seems cut and clear, but John, what are

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Speaker 2: There's a little bit of an edit.

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Speaker 3: The ahole, like how do you not go to support?

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Speaker 3: And here's my thing too, literally watch them for like

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Speaker 3: whenever I would go to visit my grandparents, it would

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Speaker 3: doing our own thing, like playing with toys, watching exactly like,

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Speaker 3: it's not that crazy of a thing.

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Speaker 1: So, yeah, it seems a little ridiculous. Seems a little ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: There is an edit. This is my first ever post.

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Speaker 3: I have nothing to do with the woman making weird

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Speaker 1: By a dog. I guess that's out of context. Okay,

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Speaker 1: my daughter in law was not an active labor When

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Speaker 1: We only wanted some relief. We were planning to continue babysitting.

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Speaker 1: Saying we only wanted to do five hours total is unfair.

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Speaker 3: So here's my thing. It's not that she wasn't like

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Speaker 3: I think it's okay to assume if you have a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is just too ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: And also it's the two of them, so one of

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Speaker 4: Hire another babysitter.

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Speaker 3: If the grandparents are like, all right, we need like

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Speaker 3: a break of a few hours, the grandparents can hire

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Speaker 3: a babysit, are like, you just like take them to

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Speaker 3: the park for a little bit, tire them out.

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Speaker 2: Of course.

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Speaker 4: Granted I'm not.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna be a great grandma though, Oh dude, I'm

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Speaker 3: going to be the biggest, baddest grandma you've ever seen

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Speaker 1: G i LF emphasis on the G. What does that

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Speaker 1: stand for? What does the stand for? Tell us Sley,

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Speaker 1: what does it stand for?

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Speaker 2: Lace?

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Speaker 4: Tension broken?

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Speaker 1: But you know what tension we never want to break?

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Speaker 1: Oh what the sexual tension we're having right now?

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, you and.

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Speaker 1: Me, the person looking into my eyes across that screen

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Speaker 1: a million miles away. Maybe I'm a hot guilt in

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Speaker 1: your area, ready to meet. So please tippity type into

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Speaker 1: the comments below if your grandparents are your parents would

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Speaker 3: That's true? And delivery room stories and I would love

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Speaker 3: to hear the stories. Let's hear it, and with that,

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Speaker 3: that's a wrap. We love you, guys, love you.

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Speaker 1: My husband told all his friends that he knows I'm

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Speaker 1: but ugly, but what he said next made it so

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Speaker 3: I mean, saying someone's but ugly is not just someone

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Speaker 4: I mean that's already pretty crazy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but just wait, just wait, okay, I.

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Speaker 4: Will just wait.

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Speaker 3: I am an unattractive woman. Damn, queen, queen, don't do

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Speaker 4: That's right, that's right.

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Speaker 1: Objectively, I'm unattractive. I've always been this way, and while

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to affirm it because I don't want to. Like,

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Speaker 3: if you affirm it, it's almost like a great Yeah

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Speaker 3: you're ugly.

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Speaker 4: Yeah you're crazy.

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Speaker 1: There were so many things that go into attraction though.

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Speaker 1: It's not just what you look like, it's how you are. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so you can be attractive but ugly. Hey, whoever wants

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Speaker 1: a day op, we'll make it happen. I met my

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Speaker 1: you're beautiful. That's great, And somehow it sounded honest without

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Speaker 3: No, you're you're you're ugly. Oh, you're you're beautiful. You're beautiful,

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Speaker 3: You're beautiful, not ugly. No, I would date you maybe.

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Speaker 1: Last night Saturday, he had a group of friends over

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Speaker 1: of the guys were teasing my husband about me, specifically

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, but what kind of friend is that?

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Speaker 2: Yo?

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Speaker 1: And also like she's getting you guys snacks and drinks and.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna be like, yo, your wife, your wife is uh.

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Speaker 1: Like yeah, I invited you to my home. We're playing

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Speaker 1: some games. You're calling life.

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Speaker 4: Oh, literally, get the fuck out.

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Speaker 1: They were specifically talking about my looks, and I could

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Speaker 4: Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: There was a point where one of them referred to

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Speaker 4: What that is?

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Speaker 3: H This was already like over the line, but that's yo, God,

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Speaker 3: God stop, and my husband blew up. We started shouting, listen,

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Speaker 3: shut the fuck up. I know that Op is ugly,

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Speaker 3: but shut up, which is tough.

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Speaker 1: Ugly, but he redeems himself a little bit. She makes

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Speaker 1: me happy. Does your bimbo of the week do that?

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Speaker 1: Jim Dave? How long has it been since we hung

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Speaker 1: out that you haven't bitched about your wife? He went

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Speaker 1: on for a while, defending me, quote unquote, Yeah. All

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Speaker 1: I could hear ringing through my head is I know

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Speaker 1: she's ugly. I know she's ugly. I know she's ugly

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Speaker 1: again and again and again in my head, and it

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Speaker 2: I don't know why.

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Speaker 1: I've always known I'm unattractive, but he isn't supposed to

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Speaker 2: Well. The other part wants to.

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Speaker 1: Run away and never talk to him again and acknowledge

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Speaker 2: Gosh, what do you think she does?

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Speaker 4: Dang?

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Speaker 2: What should he do? What should she do?

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Speaker 4: Plastic hurs are like Kylie Jenner, No, I'm just kidding.

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Speaker 1: Yea, But I've heard there's this like quote where it's like,

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Speaker 4: Ah, that's kind of hilarious.

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Speaker 3: When we look at the transformations of the Jenner Holy shit,

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Speaker 4: What shod she do? I think you gotta say, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I gotta tell husband how you feel. That's it. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's all you can do. Yeah, that's all you can do.

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Speaker 2: And so there is an update. First off, I'd just

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Speaker 1: Over the last two days, I've had literally hundreds of

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Speaker 4: You guys rock. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Seriously, look at that thread.

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Speaker 1: That's got to be one of the most best positivity

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Speaker 1: and sweetness to meanness and jerks ratio of all time

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Speaker 4: Let's go.

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Speaker 1: So yesterday, after getting a barrage to support from you guys,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you do.

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Speaker 1: I told him I'd overheard what his friends said. He

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Speaker 1: I thought that would make it sound like I was

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Speaker 1: Seeing him stand up for me again made me happy,

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Speaker 3: And this was before he sent it before or he

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 1: to give me this for Christmas, but that he'd get

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Speaker 1: me something else. I tried to say no, but he

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Speaker 2: He set up a trip.

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Speaker 1: Early January to a spa hotel resort thing in British Columbia,

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Speaker 3: What if he said like, oh, that came from my

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Speaker 4: The alternative story when I say.

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Speaker 1: That, sometimes I'm not sure I deserve him understand that

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Speaker 1: He's just amazingly awesome. He's taking me out for dinner,

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Speaker 4: Hey, A wholesome, whole, wholesome, red and ending. I was.

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Speaker 4: I was waiting for the floor to drop out. Oh,

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Speaker 3: Wow, that's I'm honestly curious if any of anyone watching

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would be curious to hear from you because

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Speaker 1: that is but amazing on the husband to like I

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, like he he did it.

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Speaker 3: Like the fact that he did it before she said

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Speaker 3: then it's like Okay, it doesn't it's kind.

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Speaker 2: Of it shows that it's actually coming from a really

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Speaker 1: Yes,