WEBVTT - Moment Live Show 0:00:24.320 --> 0:00:30.440 Hello everyone, Hello, Hello, Hello, Welcome, Don's coming. There's dumb 0:00:31.400 --> 0:00:37.120 Welcome to the Return to the Shadows. Live. Here we 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:40.360 are go into the Shadows live. Oh my goodness, let 0:00:40.320 --> 0:00:43.920 me get my comments upblicle you lovely people. Hi my lord, 0:00:44.280 --> 0:00:48.880 Hi everyone, We're getting there. Here we go now I 0:00:48.920 --> 0:00:55.000 found the comments by the angel. We are here and live, 0:00:55.200 --> 0:01:00.480 and there's Dan joining us the most special guests. Dam 0:01:00.560 --> 0:01:03.160 how does it feel here we are? It feels good. 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:05.360 It feels good. I've gotta tell you it feels good. 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:08.319 Um yeah, I made an espresso martini for the occasion. 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:10.880 I didn't do a good job. It tastes mostly like 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:14.440 Volka and coffee, but I gave it a stab. And 0:01:14.440 --> 0:01:17.520 this is where we're at. But without Magnu Spain, I 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:21.880 think all cocktails are subpar. Almost spilt it everywhere. That 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:23.360 would have been a nightmare start to all of this. 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:28.080 I agree. I agree. We need I need. I needed 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:30.520 Harry here. Also, by the way, we should start this 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:33.400 off with a massive congratulations to Harry. Oh my gosh, 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:36.640 that everything everywhere all at once? Team what an Oscar's 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:41.200 I mean that suits from the beginning of the end 0:01:41.240 --> 0:01:43.199 and then seeing him on stage I cried a little. 0:01:43.280 --> 0:01:46.440 It was awesome. I bawled my eyes out. It's our 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:49.920 you know, for a biscuit, it means a lot when 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:55.680 your warlock fairy godfather wins an oscar. It's a big 0:01:55.680 --> 0:01:58.840 deal for the Shadow Fam. But hey, you know what 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:02.480 else is a big deal? Tell me it has been 0:02:02.520 --> 0:02:06.120 a year since we started the podcast. There's like to 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:08.120 the day. No, I don't. I don't know if it's 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:10.560 to the day, I can't remember. But because when we 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:13.800 recorded versus when we're released, it's it's very near to 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:18.760 a year since we started podcast. And what a better 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:20.919 way to celebrate the anniversary than to do a live 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:24.840 show with you the Shadow Fam. No kidding. Our producers 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:27.000 came up with the idea. They suggested it to us. 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:30.239 We thought there was absolutely nothing better. We'll just start 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:32.239 with the round of appause to our producers as well. Honestly, 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:35.880 they've been the most fantastic team. They have been absolutely incredible. 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:38.840 It's been a pleasure working with you, and hopefully we 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:40.640 get a chance to work with each other again in 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:42.800 the future. But that's enough about you, because it's not 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:45.720 about you. It's about me and maybe Cat only a little. 0:02:46.720 --> 0:02:53.880 I think it's about the Shadow fam personally. Well, first thing, 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:57.800 why don't you tell me Dom, what is your favorite 0:02:57.800 --> 0:03:04.920 part about making this podcast? It's tricky. There's there's so 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:07.880 much that we have covered in this year. We did 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:13.480 fifty something episodes a lot, and we covered everything from 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:15.960 like how we started, how we got cast, all the 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:19.239 way through it, how it ended behind the scenes to 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:21.760 cast that we worked with, crew that we worked with, 0:03:21.840 --> 0:03:25.160 the weather, the elements, Toronto, all of the different things 0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:27.520 that we dealt with. I have to say, I think 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:30.720 my favorite thing has been bringing on guests and hearing 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:34.040 the different the different perspectives of how this show was 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:37.560 created and being able to sort of explain and welcome 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:40.120 people into a world of like this is how we 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:42.080 do this, Like this it's not just what you see 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:44.320 on the screen. There's a thousand people behind the scenes 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:48.240 who put this together. And being able to spences with 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:51.000 you guys listening and everyone else who is not on 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:54.880 the live um has been really special. So we really, 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:56.920 I personally have really enjoyed that and it's been my 0:03:56.920 --> 0:03:59.280 favorite thing. Yeah, I was going to say the exact 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:01.680 same thing. You know, it's so nice. We get asked 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:03.800 so many questions about how the show has made and 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:06.360 how we did certain things, and there's only so much 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:08.920 of that that we can explain from our perspective, and 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:12.720 getting to bring people on like Milesdale and Glenn Warner 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:16.200 and Drew Potter and all these amazing people who were 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:18.159 there every single day in the trenches with us, or 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:21.080 even you know, Darren McGuire, who were there every single 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:23.000 day and making a show with us and are such 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:25.640 experts in their field, but also getting to hear their 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:31.440 perspective on a personal level, but also getting to hear 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:34.280 their experience. He doesn't get what he wants and now 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:36.480 he's look at this. This is going to be happening. 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:40.440 The last time that I'm going to say it out loud. 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:43.960 This is not your shoe. This is my shoe. It 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:47.400 stands shoe, It stands to your boy, you're just borrowing it. 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:50.640 But it's, you know, getting to hear the perspective of 0:04:50.640 --> 0:04:53.320 these people that we've grown so close to and grown 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:56.839 to really love and respect their perspective on a personal 0:04:56.920 --> 0:04:58.280 level of what it was like to be a part 0:04:58.320 --> 0:05:01.320 of the show because they were so special us and 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:04.680 getting to hear you know that the experience was also 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:10.000 special for them means a lot. But speaking of special folks, 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:16.160 we have we have Our next segment is something I'm 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:19.120 so excited for. We've done the mail bag episodes, we've 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:21.520 done our Instagram lives, we've chatted with all of you 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:23.880 at conventions, but now we get to bring you into 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:27.320 the podcast. So we've our producing team have preselected a 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:31.000 few audience members to join in and chit chat for 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:33.159 a little bit and ask their questions live on the 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:37.560 show with us. Can't wait. People in the comments. But 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:39.680 before we sort of dive in, people in the comments 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:43.320 have been saying, my mike isn't loud enough. How is 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:45.200 that I've moved it a little closer to my face? 0:05:46.080 --> 0:05:49.200 Is that better for everyone? In a better microphone space? 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:54.560 Let's give it like ten seconds, see if anyone says anything. 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:58.560 By the way, I think a Dan fan club is yeah, 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:01.400 the Dan love is Yeah. It's on the way, It's 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:04.640 on the way. He's been he's been teasing an Instagram 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:07.560 account for the last like three years. He's four now 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:13.640 he's four. He's four. He's four years old. A little 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:20.160 baby under your little little I know, little little tiny 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:22.359 little thing that he was. Oh, it says better Okay, 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:25.320 everything's better, and now we know that the delays about 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:29.440 thirty seconds one, so they go, yes, well, um, our 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:32.839 magical Angel team, will you bring in our first color 0:06:34.279 --> 0:06:37.839 cooler number one? Roll on up. This is Caitlin from 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:42.640 Los Angeles. Hello Caitlin, welcome, Thank you. I'm so excited 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:44.839 to be here, so lovely to meet you. Guys. You 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:48.240 two you look like a saw special set up. Yeah, 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:49.760 it looked like a shadow and say you're on a 0:06:49.760 --> 0:06:53.880 blue screen. It's like one set. It's crazy. I know 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:56.680 for self tapes, I use it all the time. Yep, 0:06:56.920 --> 0:06:59.800 you're an actor as well. Yeah, actually that's part of 0:06:59.839 --> 0:07:01.800 my question here is um. First of all, thank you. 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:04.400 This podcast has been great, both, you know, as a 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:06.880 fan of the show and of this whole universe, but 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:09.360 also as a young actor who is just getting started, 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:11.600 just getting rolling. It's been really good to hear like 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:14.000 honest stories about what the industry is like and how 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:16.280 a show like this gets made. It's been so helpful 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:18.119 for me. It's been helpful for my mom, who feels 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:20.400 significantly better about all of this having heard you talk 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:24.320 about we are still normal people, or as normal as 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:28.000 we can have had our parents on the show is 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:29.400 what we should have done. We should have had one 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:31.280 of our parents, like we should have had our moms 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:36.080 on his guests, like Dom's a dick, like we're sitting 0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:41.920 in now. I think I think I think we should 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:43.960 arrange that, or at least try to for next season 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:46.440 of the podcast. If anyone would like that to happen, 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:48.800 let us know on the comments and we'll talk to 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:51.600 our producers. But Caitlin, we're taking up all of your time. 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:54.640 What is your question for us today? So my question 0:07:54.760 --> 0:07:57.240 is if you could relive any one day from the 0:07:57.240 --> 0:08:00.320 shadow Hunter set, which day would it be and why? 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:03.920 Oh I can tell you right now. I as sad 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:06.600 as it was, I would want to relive our very 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:09.560 last day on the set because I know we've talked 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:12.960 about the last day on set extensively on the podcast. 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:16.680 But having everyone there from cast to crew to people 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:19.440 who had worked on the show, people were still working 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:21.320 on the show and other people just came to hang 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:25.160 out and then our rat party was the best experience 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:28.640 I've ever had on any show. I just stayed and 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:33.000 really there was an odd reverence for the day because 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:35.320 we all knew that this was the last. It was 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:36.840 the end of an era as it were. You know, 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:38.360 it's the last day we were all going to ever 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:41.679 get to spend together on this project, in this space, 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:45.640 with this group of people and this story, and it 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:47.800 was such a beautiful way to celebrate it with the 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:55.880 spoiler alert Malik wedding. By the way, if anyone listening 0:08:56.000 --> 0:08:58.440 or watching live hasn't seen all the way through the show, 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:00.880 we're going to fucking ruin it, like thousand percent. We're 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:02.680 going to ruin what happens in this show. There's no 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:04.880 world in which we don't really the end of it. 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:09.400 Um yeah, kaylin, I'll tell you just to not be 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:12.320 because my aunts would probably be the same, but just 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:14.319 to not be repetitive and boring. And I'm going to 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:18.000 try and do that throughout. I was I found really 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:20.960 exciting was like the warm up for like the sort 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:23.480 of the week that we had warming up towards season two, 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:26.360 and we started seeing the changes they were going to 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:29.079 make with costumes and props, and then we met the 0:09:29.160 --> 0:09:31.720 Maguire brothers and we met Dean Copkov, the new stunt 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:33.440 teams and the stunt riggers for the first time, and 0:09:33.480 --> 0:09:36.400 we started working on different movements and fighting styles and 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:37.960 all of a sudden we were thinking like, wow, this 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:40.760 is actually a very different version of what we're going 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:44.240 to be pushing to achieve here, and that was very exciting. 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:47.160 So I would I would really live that, just not 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:51.120 I would relive that, because that it was it was 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:54.760 almost like restarting again with with sort of the experience 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:56.559 of knowing who a lot of these people were and 0:09:56.920 --> 0:09:59.320 having sort of a new fire put underneath us, which 0:09:59.400 --> 0:10:01.880 was which was very cool. So that and it was, 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:04.520 you know, like rejuvenating the whole thing, So it was 0:10:04.880 --> 0:10:06.560 that was pretty neat. So I would probably I would 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:09.000 go ahead and say that you know what, um, I'll 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:10.640 agree with you there. That's a really good answer. I 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:13.400 hadn't thought of that. I can't agree with me after 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:18.360 I disagreed with you. To be not repetitive. We can 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:22.199 agree with each other's opinions. Already halfway through my drink. 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:24.760 What am I going to do? Twenty minutes? Can never 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:29.679 win twenty minutes to make a cattail? Yeah, it was 0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:37.160 much Thank you for joining us, Good luck with everything. 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:40.000 Wishing you all the best, especially for me, because I 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:41.840 don't think we're ever going to be in direct competition 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:49.080 for break all the legs. I'm anyway, but she's like this, 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:57.319 there's another pretty blonde chick. That's enough. Good luck with everything, Kaylin, 0:10:58.080 --> 0:11:02.280 thank you so much of luck. The have fun. Bye. 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:09.240 All right, let's bring our next gut up to something 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:13.160 I don't know. Square here is like not Jaylor and 0:11:13.280 --> 0:11:17.800 welcome and you're a Missouri gala see yes, yes saying 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:24.079 that's amazings off now where you're from? Cat? Yeah, yeah, 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:34.480 knew it. Well, welcome to the thank you? Oh goodness, Well, 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:37.720 my dear, how are you today? First of all, I'm great, 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:41.920 are you? I'm fantastic? And what is your question for us? 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:46.600 My question is when you first began acting, what was 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:49.520 your first experience like was it what? Did it live 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:53.320 up to your expectations and or were you surprised by anything. 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:56.959 I'm so excited to tell this story. Cat, you go first, 0:11:56.960 --> 0:11:59.839 but I'm so excited. Okay, I think I know your 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:01.880 ordom and it's it's a it's a good one. So 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:06.360 I'm glad. I'm going, Oh my god, you're so right. 0:12:06.440 --> 0:12:08.320 Oh my god, Okay, this I forgot about that one. 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:10.880 I was thinking about a different one. Um gosh, what 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:15.400 was my first onset experience? I think, if I'm not mistaken. 0:12:16.280 --> 0:12:21.240 My first actual onset TV experience was I was living 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:23.840 in New York. A little night music had just closed 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:27.839 and I booked a two line part on Law and 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:30.960 Order SVU, as everyone who lives in New York for 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:35.640 long enough does, and I was so it was like 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:38.800 walking into Disneyland, you know that, just having these sets 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:40.960 that you've watched on TV for so many years, and 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:43.120 you're walking the first time walking into a sound stage, 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:47.040 you really are immersed into this entire world, and it's fascinating, 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:51.000 and it just a TV set ran like such a machine. 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:55.280 It wasn't anything like I expected, and it was very 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:56.840 you know, you get any dear thing, you get out 0:12:56.840 --> 0:12:58.640 and you're done, and suddenly you're going, wait, did I 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:00.760 just do it? What just happened? But that was, again 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:03.680 a show that had been in existence for fifteen almost 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:06.319 twenty years at that point, so it's a It was 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:09.400 very different coming into Shadow Hunters, but that was that 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:13.760 was quite the system that I bumped into for the 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:16.040 for the very first time. But dumb, why don't you 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:20.640 tell your story? Mine was a commercial. It was a 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:23.200 commercial or an advert depending where you're where you're from. 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:25.840 In the UK we call it an advert for skincare 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:29.440 for a skincare company, which I think has been well 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:31.280 I thought had been scrubbed from the internet, but I 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:35.880 think since since Luke Baines publicly mentioned that this was 0:13:36.040 --> 0:13:39.360 where I met him at the card I think we were. 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:45.240 We were seventeen or eighteen when that happened, so I 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:48.120 won't say how many years ago. That was quite a 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:51.360 few min years a day and we did, Yeah, we 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:52.920 did this commercial together and it was sort of a 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:55.760 fairly well oiled machine, and then also wasn't at all 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:59.480 or well oiled machine. I was wearing not very many 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:02.480 clothes at one point, very early in the morning, and 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:05.000 it was very cold, and I was on a trampoline, 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:06.760 and it was a whole it was a whole thing. 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:10.600 I think he was doing some equally crazy stuff and 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:13.080 that was my first experience. And I've been friends with 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:14.640 Luke ever since, which is nice. I was just talking 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:19.320 to Luke earlier today, so um, that's nice somethings I've 0:14:19.400 --> 0:14:23.240 known Luke for. I honestly, I don't I don't even 0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:25.600 know what the maths is. What's eight what's thirty three 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:31.080 minus eighteen? Anybody it's tough in it when it's live, 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:33.760 when the red dot's going and it's live, all of 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:35.760 that very simple maths just goes out of you ahead 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:40.320 fifteen years. It's fifteen years, hey, guante years. Sure, approximately, 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:44.160 it's not a math test. We're not doing math test today. 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:46.040 I'm so sorry. We're not putting it from that in 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:52.160 about thirty seconds comments idiots X amount of years. Um, yeah, 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:56.960 great question, great question, Thank you very much. I appreciate it. Stories. 0:14:57.240 --> 0:14:59.320 It's almost like we got the script and we were prepped. 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:03.280 Oh my goodness, this is something else. This is something 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:05.400 business for tomorrow. This is another thing that we're doing 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:08.160 tomorrow later on uh huh shalen. Thank you so much 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:11.440 for joining us to us meeting you guys, you two. 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:15.920 We really didn't get a bit of a spectrum of 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:20.600 answers here, which is interesting. I got so rounding is fifteen, 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:23.640 so I was correct. We got a nineteen and a 0:15:23.760 --> 0:15:31.960 twenty five. But you know, you make it good for you. Yeah, 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:35.960 yours our better number, so less dumb. That's not fair. 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:37.480 There were three of us who weren't good at maths. 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:44.520 Then Austin so, hey, you're from Chicago. I am suburbs. 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:48.600 Would you up would Chicago Pencer for me? Because I 0:15:48.600 --> 0:15:51.640 miss it so much. I would love to thank you. 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:56.200 I'm gone there. Yes, I will tweet you, thank you, 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:59.080 thank you. I'm so down. So it is such an 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:01.800 honor to me. Both of you guys are both my heroes. 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:06.400 And my question it's a bit more of a deep 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:10.960 one because I started watching Shadow Hunters last year. I 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:12.720 was going through a really really hard time in my 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:16.640 life and seeing how Clary and Jason everybody else dealt 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:19.680 with their traumas was just the most affirming thing to 0:16:19.720 --> 0:16:22.240 me going through mine, because I was like, I'm not alone. 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:26.360 I have these people who now feel like big brother 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:29.400 and big sister to me, and they're doing all this 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:34.440 supernatural stuff and Clary loses her mom and they're brothers. 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:38.360 They're not brothers. It's all crazy. And so you both 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:40.640 have helped me so much. You've been such a tremendous 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:44.280 part of my healing process, and Kat also watching you 0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:48.400 on Arrow and Walker independence you deserve all the awards 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:52.840 for that. It's such a magical performance. And so my 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:56.480 question for both of you is how has your characters 0:16:56.520 --> 0:16:58.920 helped you in the tough times and what do you 0:16:59.000 --> 0:17:03.840 draw on to portray that emotion because whatever clearly cries, 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:08.160 I don't want to cry. So it's just amazing. First 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:09.679 of all, I'm sorry because I cry a lot in 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:13.240 the show. There's a lot of cras like every other 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:15.920 day I was crying. I think also we should say 0:17:16.440 --> 0:17:20.800 just first off, Austin, it's a beautiful We would genuinely 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:22.640 really appreciate it. But what I think, and I've said 0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:24.119 this before and people will have heard me say this, 0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:26.639 but I'm going to reiterate it to you directly. The 0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:29.960 tough time you're going through and the fact that you 0:17:30.000 --> 0:17:32.359 came out the other side of that, we might have 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:34.440 helped who might have been in a happy little distraction, 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:36.679 but we're not responsible for that. You're responsible for that. 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:39.239 The strength from that came from you. It was inside you. 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:41.760 It is inside you. It's to everyone listening. That's strength 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:44.840 to overcome whatever the thing is, or if it's a 0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:48.639 few different things, whatever it is, that if we were 0:17:48.680 --> 0:17:51.080 able to maybe help you access that in some way, 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:52.959 then that's amazing because we're just doing our job and 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:54.960 that's connected with you in some way. But it is 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:57.440 important to note, and I always want to reiterate that 0:17:57.440 --> 0:17:59.919 that strength did come from you. I never forget that 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:02.680 because you were strong enough to do that. It's true. 0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:06.080 And we've been so lucky on this show and through 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:09.080 all the fandoms and conventions that we've done, to hear 0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:12.680 so many stories like yours, of these amazing angels out 0:18:12.720 --> 0:18:15.000 there in this fandom that have all gone through such 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:20.760 astronomical things, and it's it's really humbling to be a 0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:23.800 very small part of these amazing, heroic things that all 0:18:23.840 --> 0:18:25.840 of you have done in your lives. So thank you 0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:30.360 for sharing that with us. But as far as goodness, 0:18:31.680 --> 0:18:34.360 I think one thing I learned from Clary and from 0:18:34.480 --> 0:18:36.080 from a lot of my other characters, but Clary was 0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:37.760 the first one that sort of taught this to me 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:43.119 is she always she falls on her face a million times, 0:18:43.200 --> 0:18:47.159 she makes a millions intentional and unintentional, a bunch of 0:18:47.160 --> 0:18:50.080 things wrong. But she always picks herself back up. She 0:18:50.160 --> 0:18:54.720 always forgives herself, forgives other able to pick herself back 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:56.760 up by the bootstraps and move on and learn that 0:18:56.760 --> 0:18:59.760 it's okay that to not be perfect, and it's okay 0:18:59.840 --> 0:19:03.480 to make mistakes as long as you have good intentions 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:06.520 and are doing your best with the resources and information 0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:11.240 you have. That's that's the biggest thing I learned from Clary. 0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:13.760 But as far as the emotional scenes and dom and 0:19:13.800 --> 0:19:17.399 I've talked about this a lot. We different for every 0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:21.399 person and for me personally, it's different for every scene 0:19:21.520 --> 0:19:24.600 and every day you're on set because it's always depends 0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:27.400 on the mental and emotional place you're coming from. So 0:19:27.440 --> 0:19:32.119 sometimes it's a song, sometimes it's something from my Sometimes 0:19:32.440 --> 0:19:35.119 the scene itself. You can just be so immersed in 0:19:35.160 --> 0:19:38.400 the character relationships that you've built. It just comes from 0:19:38.440 --> 0:19:41.280 the story that you're telling. Um. But I always find 0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:46.840 it fascinating to hear what different people's sources of that 0:19:46.960 --> 0:19:52.040 kind of fatain are but dumb, what about you? I 0:19:52.080 --> 0:19:58.119 think I think I learned a lot of of ways 0:19:58.200 --> 0:20:03.080 not to make decisions through Jason. I think um learning 0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:06.199 that that being solo and a lot of these decision 0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:08.119 making processes is not the way I would like to 0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:09.560 do things. If it is the way you do it, 0:20:09.560 --> 0:20:12.040 then great. But for me, talking things out with a 0:20:12.080 --> 0:20:15.879 group of people and developing that and so that if anything, 0:20:15.920 --> 0:20:18.120 reassured myself that like this is the way I would 0:20:18.160 --> 0:20:21.520 like to I definitely learned that from him, sort of 0:20:21.600 --> 0:20:24.240 by by watching his mistakes and being like, that's right, 0:20:24.520 --> 0:20:28.479 this causes you pain and I don't want that. And 0:20:28.560 --> 0:20:31.120 I think as far as the more emotional stuff goes, 0:20:31.960 --> 0:20:35.080 it depends, like it really does depend because, as Kat said, 0:20:35.600 --> 0:20:38.120 some days you turn up on set and they go, great, 0:20:38.119 --> 0:20:40.160 we need a Hollywood tier, which is a tear from 0:20:40.160 --> 0:20:42.719 one eye, normally the eye closest to camera. We need 0:20:42.760 --> 0:20:44.800 a Hollywood tier. We need it in four seconds go 0:20:45.080 --> 0:20:49.760 and you're like, just not, that's not It just doesn't 0:20:49.840 --> 0:20:53.600 work that way. So sometimes you have to rely on externals, 0:20:53.800 --> 0:20:56.040 whether it's tear stick or a song or something from 0:20:55.920 --> 0:20:58.320 the past, whatever it is. The ideal way of doing 0:20:58.320 --> 0:21:02.320 it is you react to whatever the material is, and 0:21:02.440 --> 0:21:04.240 you react with the other actors with you, and that's 0:21:04.280 --> 0:21:06.199 where this comes in. This is very important that you 0:21:06.240 --> 0:21:08.840 trust and care and that the people around you care 0:21:08.840 --> 0:21:10.719 about you and care about your performance, and that you 0:21:10.720 --> 0:21:13.439 create it together as a group. And that's not just 0:21:13.480 --> 0:21:16.200 the other actors either, that's crew giving you the space 0:21:16.240 --> 0:21:20.040 to find that camera operators Drew and we had him 0:21:20.080 --> 0:21:25.360 on the on the Hey Buddy on the show, very 0:21:25.359 --> 0:21:28.000 clear at making the point of like, we will tell 0:21:28.040 --> 0:21:30.719 you when the camera is on is doing this, So 0:21:30.800 --> 0:21:33.879 save the tears until we're here, because this sort of 0:21:33.920 --> 0:21:37.440 strange anthropological thing happens. You run out of tears. It's 0:21:37.440 --> 0:21:40.360 a weird concept, but like your body will physically run 0:21:40.359 --> 0:21:42.960 out of you almost too dehydrated, your body just won't 0:21:42.960 --> 0:21:46.240 make them anymore. And God, almost every time it's when 0:21:46.280 --> 0:21:49.760 it's here and you're like, I got no more. There's 0:21:49.800 --> 0:21:52.280 no more clips, I got no more bullets in the chamber, 0:21:52.320 --> 0:21:54.520 like there's no tears coming out. So I think the 0:21:54.600 --> 0:21:58.320 key things are to rely on the people around you, 0:21:58.359 --> 0:22:02.200 rely on the material, and and um, yeah, I learned that. 0:22:02.359 --> 0:22:04.720 I've learned that. I learned that I need to rely 0:22:04.760 --> 0:22:09.160 on the people around me in my life as well. Absolutes. Yeah, 0:22:09.240 --> 0:22:13.600 thank you both so much for everything. Of course, Austin anytime, 0:22:13.680 --> 0:22:16.840 Thank you so much. Take care, have a good one. Right, 0:22:19.240 --> 0:22:22.800 this is your mind? Come here, Come here, he's are 0:22:22.840 --> 0:22:24.480 you going to see him? Pop right here? Look at this. 0:22:25.040 --> 0:22:26.359 Oh no, he's not done it. He's gone around the 0:22:26.359 --> 0:22:27.800 other way. He's got my other shoe. He's got the 0:22:27.800 --> 0:22:32.200 other shoe. Come here. I love good boy, Dan, good boy. 0:22:32.440 --> 0:22:38.160 So Next, we have Anna from the Ukraine. Hey, I'm 0:22:38.200 --> 0:22:44.560 so excited. In Neura's more excited. Hello are you. Oh, 0:22:44.640 --> 0:22:48.560 I'm fine, as you may know in our situation, but 0:22:48.640 --> 0:22:52.320 I'm fine. I'm great. And also I wanted to say 0:22:52.359 --> 0:22:54.800 thank you so much for everything you're doing for a 0:22:54.920 --> 0:22:58.440 CHAF fan, because, as you may know, in our situation 0:22:58.520 --> 0:23:01.000 in Ukraine, a lot of people can be home, but 0:23:01.400 --> 0:23:06.199 includingly but funny, it reverses a show and when I 0:23:06.320 --> 0:23:08.920 listen to podcast, I just feel like I'm at home 0:23:08.960 --> 0:23:13.480 at least a little a little. Oh that's good. That's 0:23:13.560 --> 0:23:17.359 so very glad to hear that, and we can and 0:23:17.440 --> 0:23:20.560 the rest of our team wishing love and happiness and 0:23:20.600 --> 0:23:24.560 safety to everyone in your situation. You know, I think 0:23:24.600 --> 0:23:27.440 everyone wants this to be over as quickly as possible, 0:23:27.560 --> 0:23:29.959 and a peaceful resolution to be found as quickly as possible, 0:23:30.000 --> 0:23:32.080 and for everyone to be you know, back in their 0:23:32.119 --> 0:23:35.000 own bedroom, being able to listen to this under their sheet, 0:23:35.040 --> 0:23:37.320 under their own sheets, you know, doing things. We're wishing 0:23:37.320 --> 0:23:40.040 that for you from the bottom of our hearts. But 0:23:40.080 --> 0:23:43.639 I will say that's that's such a wonderful sentiment, and 0:23:43.680 --> 0:23:47.800 that's something that I love about the Shadow family feel 0:23:47.840 --> 0:23:50.440 like a home, and the community has become a safe 0:23:50.440 --> 0:23:52.440 place and a home for so many people all over 0:23:52.480 --> 0:23:57.280 the world. And I'm constantly in our and fascinated and 0:23:57.400 --> 0:23:59.840 humbled by every single one of you that makes this 0:24:00.040 --> 0:24:03.440 community is so beautiful. So that is a perfect way 0:24:03.520 --> 0:24:07.080 to put it into perspective, my dear. That's your question 0:24:07.119 --> 0:24:10.520 for us today, and my aggression is if you could 0:24:10.720 --> 0:24:15.679 from once in one detail from your character's character's life, 0:24:16.080 --> 0:24:21.160 what would be and what consequences it would cost? Hmm, 0:24:22.600 --> 0:24:24.920 if I could take You're asking if I could take 0:24:24.960 --> 0:24:27.240 something from Jase's life and bring it into my life 0:24:27.760 --> 0:24:30.960 the ruins of thousand So if you could change one detail, 0:24:31.119 --> 0:24:34.720 if you could change one detail of Jason's life, Yeah, oh, 0:24:34.760 --> 0:24:40.760 I see what consequences would have I mean, poor Jason, 0:24:41.200 --> 0:24:43.800 so many, so many of the details in Jase's life 0:24:43.840 --> 0:24:46.040 I would change, Like, it's almost unfair to just pick 0:24:46.080 --> 0:24:50.760 the one. I think. Well, here's the thing. I think, 0:24:51.400 --> 0:24:59.480 if Jason's father was a more empathetic, genuine well, if 0:24:59.560 --> 0:25:01.960 Jase's if who we thought Jase's father was at the 0:25:02.040 --> 0:25:06.760 beginning was a more empathetic and caring and loving man, 0:25:07.840 --> 0:25:11.200 I guess the person who raised Jase. See, I still 0:25:11.240 --> 0:25:14.760 get confused with who who Jase's and where he came from. 0:25:14.800 --> 0:25:17.120 There are so many different storylines that happened I think 0:25:17.119 --> 0:25:21.800 we're talking about. I'm trying to I would like Valentine 0:25:21.800 --> 0:25:24.160 to have been a nicer guy in general. I think 0:25:24.160 --> 0:25:25.639 he could have been nicer to Jason, could have been 0:25:25.680 --> 0:25:27.400 nice to Clare, he could have been nicer to Jonathan. 0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:30.159 And in reality, what that would have changed is we 0:25:30.240 --> 0:25:34.280 probably didn't really have a show because so much of 0:25:34.320 --> 0:25:37.399 it was based on Valentine being the bad guy. So 0:25:37.440 --> 0:25:39.280 I think we probably didn't have a TV show, so 0:25:39.359 --> 0:25:42.480 this wouldn't have happened. So I guess Jase's pain and 0:25:42.560 --> 0:25:44.680 a lot of other people's pain kind of caused this 0:25:44.800 --> 0:25:49.680 to be a thing. So that's good, you know, silver lining. Yeah, 0:25:50.440 --> 0:25:55.760 so I guess that's where we're at. That's my answer. Well, 0:25:55.800 --> 0:26:04.760 that's you know, your Jason's sacrifice is everyone else's enjoyment? Yeah, yeah, 0:26:04.800 --> 0:26:06.840 I don't. I don't want to. I don't want to 0:26:06.840 --> 0:26:11.760 put it that way really, but um hmm. I think 0:26:11.760 --> 0:26:14.240 if I could change wen detail about Clarie's life, I 0:26:14.280 --> 0:26:18.520 would just I would want her to listen a little 0:26:18.520 --> 0:26:21.480 bit more to the people around her to know just 0:26:21.520 --> 0:26:23.600 a little bit more than she does about things, and 0:26:23.640 --> 0:26:29.560 maybe maybe for her not to go against the grains 0:26:29.600 --> 0:26:32.919 so much. But alternatively, it makes me wonder because so 0:26:32.960 --> 0:26:37.240 many things that happened happened because of accidents that she 0:26:37.320 --> 0:26:40.560 had or things that she did that maybe weren't what 0:26:40.600 --> 0:26:42.240 she was told to do, and some of those were 0:26:42.280 --> 0:26:49.480 good things. So you know, I'm not sure that. Yeah, 0:26:49.520 --> 0:26:54.760 I totally agree with your Sometimes changes it's not good, agreed. 0:26:54.880 --> 0:26:59.800 Sometimes yeah, sometimes change is negative. Absolutely, Yeah, thank you 0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:02.320 so much, and it was such a pleasure to media. 0:27:03.119 --> 0:27:07.320 Thank you, Thank you so much, sending love all the best. 0:27:09.960 --> 0:27:18.480 All right, Next we have Anya from Germany. Hi there, amazing, Anya, Hi, Hi, Hi, 0:27:18.800 --> 0:27:21.520 how are you. I'm good? Thank you for having me 0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:27.520 of course, our pleasure amazing. So, uh, what's your question 0:27:27.560 --> 0:27:30.439 for us today, my dear? Well, why is not like 0:27:31.040 --> 0:27:35.200 really a question, It's more a little mini brand I had, um, 0:27:35.400 --> 0:27:40.640 which was, how come every other shadow hunter that we 0:27:40.720 --> 0:27:44.760 have besides our, one of which has been a shadow 0:27:44.840 --> 0:27:49.600 hunter for maybe a minute, is basically useless at their job? 0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:58.320 I'm thinking, Umah, Jonathan going down into like the kind 0:27:58.359 --> 0:28:00.480 of dungeon thing and stealing the more to Rril and 0:28:00.600 --> 0:28:04.960 the Elite carriage just going down like immediately, I was like, oh, yeah, 0:28:05.040 --> 0:28:09.640 I know, you know, point off the show, but really elite. Yeah, 0:28:09.800 --> 0:28:11.640 we talk about this a yeah. Let me tell you, 0:28:11.800 --> 0:28:14.760 we talk about this all the time, all the time. 0:28:15.480 --> 0:28:20.200 Useless shadow Hunters as a breed are useless, completely useless. 0:28:21.359 --> 0:28:24.639 Let's do like seventeen backflips and throw like a weapon 0:28:24.720 --> 0:28:26.920 that is super useful throughout the rest of the story, 0:28:26.960 --> 0:28:28.800 but we use it one time, or like a ruin 0:28:28.840 --> 0:28:30.840 that got designed and we're like, y, yeah, let's do that. Well, 0:28:30.880 --> 0:28:33.480 let's pour to into Iddriss. Using this ruin that that 0:28:33.720 --> 0:28:36.000 Cats used one time, Claris used one time. Where does 0:28:36.000 --> 0:28:38.200 it get us underwater? Doesn't make any sense. We have 0:28:38.280 --> 0:28:40.480 warlocks everywhere that we're friends with who know how to 0:28:40.480 --> 0:28:42.160 get us to address doesn't make any sense. It's the 0:28:42.200 --> 0:28:46.240 stupidest thing. We make terrible choices all the time, all 0:28:46.280 --> 0:28:48.520 the time. But it made for an interesting show. So 0:28:48.680 --> 0:28:53.120 there's the real balance. Yeah, useless, completely useless. I agree, 0:28:53.160 --> 0:28:55.760 we really did it, really did. I will say the 0:28:56.360 --> 0:28:59.680 senior talking about I think the idea was that it's 0:28:59.680 --> 0:29:03.880 about Jonathan is so powerful that even the elite guards 0:29:03.920 --> 0:29:06.400 just go down Love writing center. But then how can 0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:08.959 we fight him? And it takes a minute. I don't know. 0:29:09.200 --> 0:29:12.120 I don't know. But he was supposed to be so good. 0:29:12.160 --> 0:29:13.800 Do you remember who doubled him? Do you remember who 0:29:13.840 --> 0:29:16.640 doubled him for that? Right? Do little Little Little Love? 0:29:16.720 --> 0:29:21.160 That's our stunt Cornet or Darren maguire. Yea doubled will 0:29:21.200 --> 0:29:23.680 Tutor for that scene. He doubled will Tutor for that 0:29:23.720 --> 0:29:28.640 fight scene. Yeah, because they needed such a such an 0:29:28.640 --> 0:29:32.920 elite kicker that only Darren could do it. Is that 0:29:33.160 --> 0:29:37.360 sun going to say it? I don't know, skilled masterful, 0:29:37.720 --> 0:29:40.200 You wouldn't see it. You probably wouldn't notice because he's 0:29:40.320 --> 0:29:48.640 they edited, edited, edited, edited it, edited it, say edited it? 0:29:49.600 --> 0:29:52.640 Edited it? Yeah, say it, but say it normally. Don't 0:29:52.680 --> 0:29:54.160 say it with you with your teeth. Just try and 0:29:54.200 --> 0:30:01.560 say it like in turn a phrase. Edited it. Oh yeah, okay, okay, 0:30:01.640 --> 0:30:08.800 I can see Wow. Um they did it together very well. 0:30:08.840 --> 0:30:10.840 So is it? You probably won't be able to notice. 0:30:10.880 --> 0:30:12.640 Hopefully you won't be able to notice. But go back 0:30:12.680 --> 0:30:14.480 and then and then tweet Kat if you noticed. I 0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:16.960 don't have Twitter anymore for this exact reason. So people 0:30:17.000 --> 0:30:18.560 can't be like, though, does it look like him anymore? 0:30:18.560 --> 0:30:21.880 And I'm like, I don't care. I will say Darren 0:30:21.920 --> 0:30:24.360 looks great as a blonde. I'm just gonna say it. 0:30:24.360 --> 0:30:26.160 It's gonna put it out there, Darren looks great as 0:30:26.160 --> 0:30:28.360 a blonde. Thank you to the person in the chat 0:30:28.400 --> 0:30:32.080 who said I'm an elite kicker. I appreciate that. How 0:30:32.080 --> 0:30:33.880 are you keeping up with the chat? It's there's so 0:30:34.000 --> 0:30:37.760 much of it, it's so quick. Someone said poor rage, 0:30:37.760 --> 0:30:39.800 and I agree with you, page. I really want a 0:30:39.840 --> 0:30:42.920 T shirt that says poor rage, but out of context, 0:30:42.960 --> 0:30:46.920 it probably is not a good idea. On ya, this 0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:48.360 is what it's like being in our life. How does 0:30:48.400 --> 0:30:51.760 it feel welcome? You ask a normal question and we 0:30:51.800 --> 0:30:54.400 answer that sort of somewhat, and then we just transition 0:30:54.480 --> 0:30:58.000 into useless nonsense tangents. Yeah, this is what our producers 0:30:58.000 --> 0:31:01.000 have to put up with, and so you do. Okay, 0:31:01.000 --> 0:31:02.920 Well that's good. That's good to hear. I'm glad that 0:31:03.000 --> 0:31:06.600 this is somewhat the norm for you. Yeah, I mean, 0:31:06.600 --> 0:31:08.360 this is what our producers have to put up with 0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:11.240 and edit. A'mia, thank you so much for being on 0:31:11.240 --> 0:31:13.560 the show today. We really appreciate you joining us and 0:31:13.680 --> 0:31:17.080 for such a wonderful conversation topic. I like your plans. 0:31:17.840 --> 0:31:24.800 Bye hy bye bye, Natalie. Welcome, Oh movies, you can't 0:31:24.840 --> 0:31:30.760 here's it? Hey, welcome. Hi, how are you guys? Fantastic? 0:31:31.320 --> 0:31:34.960 Thank you, I'm good, thank you. And I'm in very 0:31:35.080 --> 0:31:41.760 wet and cold Scotland. So oh no, I'm very similar 0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:44.360 to oh sorry, what are you guys? No, I was 0:31:44.400 --> 0:31:47.240 just gonna ask what your question was for today, and 0:31:47.640 --> 0:31:51.800 so very similar to Austin and your Your guys show 0:31:51.920 --> 0:31:55.520 is like my my comfort show. Um, so I tend 0:31:55.560 --> 0:31:58.360 to get maybe two episodes in the series two and 0:31:58.400 --> 0:32:03.680 I go, I'm depressed. That's what it. So I very 0:32:03.760 --> 0:32:06.080 much find it's a really really comfort and lovely show. 0:32:06.280 --> 0:32:09.920 But what I wanted to ask was everyone tends to 0:32:10.000 --> 0:32:15.440 have a dark or off pieced storyline and if there 0:32:15.560 --> 0:32:18.719 was one that you guys could take from another character 0:32:18.840 --> 0:32:21.280 storyline that you wish it been yours, what would it 0:32:21.280 --> 0:32:26.720 have been? Oh? Wow, it's an interesting one, a storyline 0:32:26.760 --> 0:32:31.440 that I wish I could have had. I mean we 0:32:31.560 --> 0:32:35.200 sort of had this from time to time in little 0:32:35.240 --> 0:32:37.120 moments like Dommy and I did this and he did 0:32:37.160 --> 0:32:42.680 it with Alberto Once. I loved the episode where Magnus 0:32:42.760 --> 0:32:46.680 and Valentine switched, just getting to watch Alan and Harry 0:32:47.360 --> 0:32:50.840 do that and really commit and just get they both 0:32:50.880 --> 0:32:53.280 committed so much and got so much of each other's 0:32:53.400 --> 0:32:58.560 nuances and voice, speech pattern, posture walk. It blew my mind. 0:32:58.640 --> 0:33:02.040 I mean, they're both so uber talented, but I'm not 0:33:02.120 --> 0:33:06.640 surprised it was such a high level of work. But 0:33:07.320 --> 0:33:09.240 that would have been so fun to have been paired 0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:11.480 with someone and had to kind of do that for 0:33:11.520 --> 0:33:17.320 a full episode instead of just in bits and bobs. Yeah. Yeah, 0:33:17.360 --> 0:33:20.160 I think we also sort of toyed with it for 0:33:20.200 --> 0:33:23.360 a second right towards we got given each other's powers 0:33:24.360 --> 0:33:26.200 from different elements of that, and I think, I don't 0:33:26.200 --> 0:33:28.280 know if there's another storyline I would have liked Jase 0:33:28.360 --> 0:33:31.520 to go through necessarily, But I think it's always an 0:33:31.520 --> 0:33:35.000 interesting concept to think, how would this person deal with 0:33:35.040 --> 0:33:37.640 the world if your background was entirely different, if you 0:33:37.680 --> 0:33:39.600 were treated differently because of who you were or what 0:33:39.680 --> 0:33:41.840 you were, who would that develop you into as a 0:33:42.000 --> 0:33:44.520 as a character, as a person, as you know, a being. 0:33:44.960 --> 0:33:48.680 Would Jay still be sort of the same, fairly obnoxious, 0:33:48.760 --> 0:33:53.920 you know, broken psychlonic character. Would he be that same 0:33:53.920 --> 0:33:55.880 guy if he was raised as a warlock, if he 0:33:55.920 --> 0:33:58.320 was raised exactly the same same people in his life, 0:33:58.440 --> 0:34:00.720 same treatment, the whole way through, but he was a warlock, 0:34:00.800 --> 0:34:04.240 so his external factors maybe changed. And that's that's always 0:34:04.240 --> 0:34:07.480 sort of an interesting conversation to develop within dialogue is 0:34:08.120 --> 0:34:10.719 U and an interesting sort of anthropological look at these 0:34:10.760 --> 0:34:12.560 characters and who they are and how they develop. Is 0:34:12.880 --> 0:34:15.360 we are products of our environment. Everyone is, everything is 0:34:15.360 --> 0:34:17.680 a product of his environment. We adapt and move and 0:34:17.719 --> 0:34:20.560 grow with our environment. So it would be interesting to 0:34:20.600 --> 0:34:24.680 think within that where these characters could and should and 0:34:26.320 --> 0:34:31.480 maybe would go. Were their situations different. I suppose I 0:34:31.520 --> 0:34:33.759 think we answered your question with a question, and I'm 0:34:33.800 --> 0:34:39.960 sorry about that. Yeah, but that's what happens. That's fain. 0:34:40.040 --> 0:34:42.880 Thank you very much, podcast, Thank you so much, thank you, 0:34:42.960 --> 0:34:53.359 great question. Thank you Natalie. Hello, just firing them. Yes, 0:34:53.560 --> 0:34:57.440 welcome to the show. Hi, Jess. If I'm going to 0:34:57.480 --> 0:35:00.279 be honest, I'm actually terrified because I don't normally do Yeah, 0:35:01.320 --> 0:35:05.359 So I'm like really, okay, Okay, I get it, don't 0:35:05.360 --> 0:35:07.560 worry about it. Kat told me right before that she 0:35:07.719 --> 0:35:11.680 was super nervous about my accent because obviously I'm from 0:35:12.200 --> 0:35:14.080 like Kat, you're like, I think you're American. If you do, 0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:16.640 you're English. But I'm terrified because I stutter a lot 0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:20.120 and because of my accent, I'm growing bright pint. I 0:35:20.320 --> 0:35:22.440 tend to go over my words and it's really am 0:35:23.200 --> 0:35:26.799 Thats fine. I promise you don't worry about it. And yeah, 0:35:26.960 --> 0:35:30.799 really don't worry about it. You sound flawless, You sound perfect, Jesse. Yeah, 0:35:30.840 --> 0:35:33.520 So my question was to you guys, if you could 0:35:33.520 --> 0:35:35.919 have one more episode where you both had complete, great 0:35:36.000 --> 0:35:38.080 freedom over it, what would you like to see happen 0:35:38.160 --> 0:35:42.120 in that episode? Oh? I always I thought about this 0:35:42.239 --> 0:35:45.640 to the entire pandemic. I would have loved to see 0:35:45.840 --> 0:35:49.560 shadow Hunters in lockdown, just in lockdown at the institute, 0:35:49.719 --> 0:35:55.839 going well, what how do we? What do we? Ah uh, 0:35:56.280 --> 0:35:59.719 and just so having to do such mundane things, or 0:36:00.080 --> 0:36:01.560 you know, having to try and do any of the 0:36:01.560 --> 0:36:04.520 crazy things that any of us did to stay entertained 0:36:04.600 --> 0:36:07.359 during the pandemic, or even you know, watching them try 0:36:07.400 --> 0:36:11.560 and develop a run an anti you know, COVID run 0:36:11.719 --> 0:36:15.960 or something, because I'm sure they would be experimenting. But yeah, 0:36:16.040 --> 0:36:19.600 after after like the first month, because I think it 0:36:19.640 --> 0:36:22.000 would be the same as same as like human beings, 0:36:22.000 --> 0:36:23.799 like this is gonna blow over. This is fine, it's 0:36:23.840 --> 0:36:25.440 going to blow over. Not a good deal. The month 0:36:25.480 --> 0:36:28.040 two rolls around and you're like a ship. This might 0:36:28.040 --> 0:36:29.759 be about for a while, like this is Then you're 0:36:29.800 --> 0:36:32.359 calling like R and D shadow Hunters R and D, like, hey, guys, 0:36:32.360 --> 0:36:34.520 we're gonna need you to get on on top of this, 0:36:34.680 --> 0:36:37.160 like the shadow Hunters version of Fiser. We're gonna be like, guys, 0:36:37.160 --> 0:36:39.480 I'm gonna need you to pump out a vaccine for 0:36:39.480 --> 0:36:42.800 this asa because we're we're like, there are two hundred 0:36:42.800 --> 0:36:45.400 shadow Hunters on the best of days, we don't know 0:36:45.440 --> 0:36:47.560 what we're doing, and we're now all crammed in the 0:36:47.600 --> 0:36:50.720 same place like I he's made herself the chef. That's 0:36:50.840 --> 0:36:54.239 not good. That's bad. Let us out, let us out 0:36:54.280 --> 0:36:58.040 right now. That's and then you have you know, like show, Yeah, 0:36:58.200 --> 0:37:00.799 you have Simon and Magnus who are quarantined in there 0:37:00.840 --> 0:37:03.839 with us, and you know, having to navigate that political atmosphere, 0:37:04.320 --> 0:37:08.760 and I don't know that would be fun. We always 0:37:08.760 --> 0:37:10.960 thought it would be fun. Matt and Alberto and I 0:37:10.960 --> 0:37:12.480 thought it would be fun to have an episode that 0:37:12.600 --> 0:37:14.440 wasn't about us at all. It was just about the 0:37:14.920 --> 0:37:18.440 supporting actors that we had come in the background shadow 0:37:18.520 --> 0:37:23.680 hunters or like or like um, the people like walking 0:37:23.719 --> 0:37:26.240 down the street and you follow like this one guy's 0:37:26.239 --> 0:37:30.000 story who bumped into nobody like shoulder checked nobody and 0:37:30.080 --> 0:37:31.880 spend the rest of his life being like, but I 0:37:32.040 --> 0:37:34.440 know I did, like I felt someone, and it's some 0:37:34.560 --> 0:37:37.000 shadow hunter who fucked up and like walked into someone 0:37:37.320 --> 0:37:39.879 and that like that's his little sub story. Like he's 0:37:39.880 --> 0:37:42.920 in therapy, like, no, I definitely bumped into someone. And 0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:44.719 they're like, you can't have done that. How does this 0:37:44.760 --> 0:37:47.600 relate to your past? And he's like, no, I definitely did. 0:37:47.000 --> 0:37:49.480 I bumped into someone and I felt it and we've 0:37:49.520 --> 0:37:52.600 just ruined that person's life. Yeah. See, it's always be 0:37:52.680 --> 0:37:57.160 interesting like side story. See then I can imagine like 0:37:57.440 --> 0:37:59.759 obviously if they look around check then the shadow hunt 0:37:59.800 --> 0:38:01.400 for a thinking, oh my god, you can see me 0:38:01.560 --> 0:38:04.239 just like obviously Clarie's first one of her first lines, 0:38:04.280 --> 0:38:08.439 and I would be absolutely hysterical. Yeah, I know there's 0:38:08.440 --> 0:38:12.160 another one, a rogue shadow hunter out there that doesn't 0:38:12.160 --> 0:38:14.520 know they're a shadow hunter. Oh boy, Alec just goes 0:38:14.640 --> 0:38:18.000 no no. I think at that point as well, I 0:38:18.000 --> 0:38:22.759 think Jays would bump into another yea no nopep me like, yes, 0:38:22.800 --> 0:38:24.399 I'm so sorry I did Sorry, I have a nice 0:38:24.440 --> 0:38:28.440 eving and then just me it was a pleasure to 0:38:28.480 --> 0:38:32.719 meet you both. Yes, thank you so much, thank you, Hi, 0:38:33.160 --> 0:38:39.760 thank you take talking to us. Hello, Hi, um so 0:38:40.080 --> 0:38:43.960 um hellove to me, Arena. Lovely to meet you as well. 0:38:44.360 --> 0:38:48.000 And um, I've also wanted to say I didn't even 0:38:48.040 --> 0:38:49.960 know any of you existed up till about a year 0:38:49.960 --> 0:38:52.440 and a half ago, and I saw a shadow of 0:38:52.480 --> 0:38:55.960 Hunters and I picked up quite a few good actors 0:38:56.000 --> 0:38:58.960 to watch what they're gonna do. Oh that's very sweet. 0:38:59.480 --> 0:39:03.640 Thank you. But I even liked your podcast more. It's 0:39:03.960 --> 0:39:09.680 really wow. I really enjoy your guys, and I was 0:39:09.719 --> 0:39:12.440 really impressed what a good host you are, and you 0:39:12.520 --> 0:39:15.759 always when you have guests, you always uh and during 0:39:15.760 --> 0:39:19.600 the show you always pointed out, um, good scenes your 0:39:19.960 --> 0:39:24.120 castmates made, and um you always keep saying like, oh 0:39:24.239 --> 0:39:28.920 they should include that in a there um promo reel. Yeah. So, 0:39:29.320 --> 0:39:32.160 but you never talk about yourself, and I think you're 0:39:32.239 --> 0:39:35.600 very good actors, so I know it's hard to just 0:39:35.840 --> 0:39:38.920 yourself in your own work. But now that you did 0:39:39.080 --> 0:39:41.680 rewatch and had a little bit time distance from when 0:39:41.719 --> 0:39:46.080 you did the thing, what are the scenes not necessarily 0:39:46.080 --> 0:39:48.239 the scenes that were best for you to make, but 0:39:48.360 --> 0:39:50.719 like the scenes that you look there. Oh that's a 0:39:50.760 --> 0:39:53.200 good acting I'm gonna put this in my resume or 0:39:53.200 --> 0:39:57.600 whatever you do as actors. Yeah. Um, good question, really 0:39:57.600 --> 0:40:01.880 good question, because I think, um, you're right. Normally, the 0:40:01.960 --> 0:40:05.040 question we get asked and the question we answered probably 0:40:05.080 --> 0:40:07.360 the most often is what was your favorite to what 0:40:07.560 --> 0:40:10.040 was the hardest film, to the hardest scene to film, whatever, 0:40:10.080 --> 0:40:12.479 so on and so forth. Which one do I think 0:40:12.640 --> 0:40:14.880 would be in my real I know one that's in 0:40:14.920 --> 0:40:18.319 my reel because I've I've obviously seen my real. Um 0:40:18.760 --> 0:40:21.160 my agents put it together. Kat, I'm sure you will 0:40:21.280 --> 0:40:24.759 do the same. But what's in it? The scene from 0:40:24.760 --> 0:40:30.200 the end of episode three in season two, Um, Parabatti 0:40:30.320 --> 0:40:35.719 lost alec Is dying and I do the Parabati oath 0:40:35.840 --> 0:40:38.279 to him bringing back that scene is in my reel. 0:40:38.680 --> 0:40:41.560 I know that scenes in my real Um So I 0:40:41.880 --> 0:40:43.920 sort of I cheaped out on the answer there a 0:40:43.920 --> 0:40:45.839 little because I didn't really answer it. I was like 0:40:45.920 --> 0:40:47.840 my team thought that was good, and They've put it 0:40:47.880 --> 0:40:50.600 in my reel, so I'm sort of washing my hands 0:40:50.600 --> 0:40:53.120 and I'm fantastic at that scene and I made sure 0:40:53.120 --> 0:40:55.600 it was real. No, I'm not doing that, um no, 0:40:55.800 --> 0:40:57.319 but I know that that scene is in my real 0:40:57.440 --> 0:41:01.040 And I will say, as far as performing, you do 0:41:01.120 --> 0:41:03.960 have days where you go home and go that felt good, 0:41:04.160 --> 0:41:06.120 that felt really good, and I did I think it 0:41:06.120 --> 0:41:07.759 was one hundred percent that I think it couldn't be 0:41:07.800 --> 0:41:11.360 any better. Absolutely not. But was it up there, you know, 0:41:11.640 --> 0:41:15.160 towards where I want it to be. Yeah. Absolutely. And 0:41:15.200 --> 0:41:17.840 I think part of being a performer or an artist 0:41:17.880 --> 0:41:21.800 really in any form, there's a version of perfections living 0:41:21.880 --> 0:41:23.719 you all times, so you're always sort of striving to 0:41:23.719 --> 0:41:26.480 be a little better and onto the next thing. I 0:41:26.480 --> 0:41:28.520 don't know any artists that would be happy to sort 0:41:28.560 --> 0:41:31.520 of sidestep job to job and placate themselves within their 0:41:31.560 --> 0:41:34.440 own sort of thing. There's always an element of sort 0:41:34.480 --> 0:41:38.640 of challenging nature within that. So I will say I 0:41:38.680 --> 0:41:41.839 was very happy with that. Absolutely, that's that was such 0:41:41.880 --> 0:41:46.880 a beautiful scene. I think I have to I have to. 0:41:47.200 --> 0:41:49.400 I two come to mind, and one is you know 0:41:49.480 --> 0:41:51.160 one that dam and I talked about all the time 0:41:51.600 --> 0:41:54.239 the end of season two when we did the whole 0:41:54.239 --> 0:41:57.440 bit at Lake Lynn with Angel coming in Valentine the 0:41:57.480 --> 0:41:59.600 model of instruments. I just know that again, that was 0:41:59.600 --> 0:42:01.600 one of those days that don talks about that we 0:42:02.160 --> 0:42:06.800 left set completely exhausted, but knowing that we'd given every 0:42:06.840 --> 0:42:09.759 piece of ourselves to it. But the other scene I 0:42:09.760 --> 0:42:13.320 would I would maybe bring up for me and simply 0:42:13.360 --> 0:42:17.479 because I I know, I've I've was really feeling those 0:42:17.520 --> 0:42:20.239 same emotions in that moment, and I don't think you 0:42:20.239 --> 0:42:25.400 can get much more reality captured on camera than This 0:42:26.080 --> 0:42:29.480 was the last scene I did with Luke when he 0:42:29.560 --> 0:42:33.560 was playing Jonathan on the Street of well, the Street 0:42:33.560 --> 0:42:36.239 of Toronto that we actually played for Toronto, where he's 0:42:36.320 --> 0:42:38.440 you know, killing all of the people and then Clary 0:42:38.680 --> 0:42:41.320 kills him at the end of it. That was Luke's 0:42:41.400 --> 0:42:44.200 last scene on the show. And I actually didn't realize 0:42:44.200 --> 0:42:46.759 it until that day in that moment that this was 0:42:47.080 --> 0:42:50.080 his final scene and his final day, because our serious 0:42:50.080 --> 0:42:54.680 finale was so you know, astronomically all over the place, 0:42:54.719 --> 0:42:57.640 and we were dealing with a lot at the time. 0:42:57.760 --> 0:43:01.000 But that scene was so beautiful written and it was 0:43:01.040 --> 0:43:04.920 such a wonderful moment to celebrate, you know, everything that 0:43:04.920 --> 0:43:07.480 we'd built in that character relationship and everything that we'd 0:43:07.480 --> 0:43:11.680 gone through together and making the show. And I will 0:43:11.719 --> 0:43:14.280 never forget because our crew again gave us the space 0:43:14.320 --> 0:43:16.799 and the time to do it in a way that 0:43:17.000 --> 0:43:20.200 was conducive to the emotional state that we were in, 0:43:20.480 --> 0:43:23.080 so that that would be the other one for me, 0:43:24.280 --> 0:43:26.759 and I agree with Kata, that's that's the one. I 0:43:26.800 --> 0:43:30.000 was thinking, like, it's so good because there was like 0:43:30.120 --> 0:43:32.120 you had to do something hard, but there was so 0:43:32.239 --> 0:43:34.239 much compassion in it. I just love how you did 0:43:34.280 --> 0:43:37.359 it there. And it's like I also liked I love 0:43:37.400 --> 0:43:41.879 that scene, but I also write your our presentation yea, 0:43:42.239 --> 0:43:45.319 every time you like totally different person, you can see 0:43:45.400 --> 0:43:49.640 like a devil or like demon in your eyes. Thanks, yeah, 0:43:50.360 --> 0:43:53.160 let him out, Thank you, Arena appreciate it. Thank you 0:43:53.239 --> 0:43:57.359 so much. It's so lovely. What a great question. All right, 0:43:57.880 --> 0:44:00.960 and this sorry for everyone asking a thirty second delay, 0:44:01.120 --> 0:44:04.200 but I something went wrong. I touched something on my 0:44:04.200 --> 0:44:06.279 computer that I shouldn't have touched. It stopped recording. I 0:44:06.320 --> 0:44:08.200 had to log off and log back on. If that 0:44:08.280 --> 0:44:10.920 happens again for either of us or any of us. 0:44:11.239 --> 0:44:14.480 That's why that's my run over. Sarah. Okay, Sarah, Sarah, 0:44:14.480 --> 0:44:18.920 how do I say? Name both the works? Welcome to 0:44:18.960 --> 0:44:24.600 the show. Hi, so nice to meet you both. So 0:44:24.680 --> 0:44:28.160 I'm actually just about to finish up and graduate with 0:44:28.200 --> 0:44:33.480 my bachelor's degree in a few weeks. Um, congratulations, congratulations. 0:44:34.160 --> 0:44:37.520 My question actually is for your or in your careers, 0:44:38.080 --> 0:44:40.560 was there ever a moment or a few moments where 0:44:40.560 --> 0:44:45.959 you had some hesitations, some doubts where you're questioning, like, 0:44:46.320 --> 0:44:49.000 is this really what I want to do? Maybe maybe 0:44:49.120 --> 0:44:51.440 the amount of work that you're putting in isn't like 0:44:51.520 --> 0:44:53.719 it's not acquainting to you the results that you want to. 0:44:55.480 --> 0:44:59.080 Let me tell you it, Sarah. I have a good 0:44:59.120 --> 0:45:00.760 example of this right now. So we're on my computer. 0:45:00.800 --> 0:45:03.040 I'm going to try and not accidentally close anything. I'm 0:45:03.080 --> 0:45:05.600 in my So all of the auditions that I've done 0:45:05.719 --> 0:45:09.080 over the last this is probably only six months because 0:45:09.080 --> 0:45:10.360 I have to kind of get rid of them, but 0:45:10.360 --> 0:45:14.080 the last six months I keep them all. Um, okay, 0:45:14.120 --> 0:45:18.920 all right, so here's a good answer, right, this is 0:45:19.160 --> 0:45:21.160 just the auditions that I've done over the last six months. 0:45:21.160 --> 0:45:24.719 So on an audition, everyone sort of knows knows. This 0:45:24.800 --> 0:45:27.080 about what we do is similar to a job interview. 0:45:27.680 --> 0:45:30.040 I've done one hundred and thirty five auditions in the 0:45:30.120 --> 0:45:35.040 last six months. Jobs wise, there is stuff going on 0:45:35.080 --> 0:45:37.240 which is great and very exciting, and I'm very lucky. 0:45:37.280 --> 0:45:39.720 But that's the ratio, like one hundred and thirty five, 0:45:40.239 --> 0:45:42.719 or like about one hundred to one, maybe fifty to 0:45:42.800 --> 0:45:45.440 one if you have a really good year. That's kind 0:45:45.440 --> 0:45:48.480 of the ratio. And the first time that happens when 0:45:48.520 --> 0:45:50.840 you first get into this industry and you get fifty 0:45:50.960 --> 0:45:53.080 nos in a row and they don't tell you why. 0:45:53.320 --> 0:45:55.320 They don't tell you that you weren't good enough for 0:45:55.440 --> 0:45:58.360 you were too tall or too small, or you stuttered 0:45:58.400 --> 0:46:00.719 on this word or your accent, and quite right, they 0:46:00.760 --> 0:46:02.880 give you nothing, They tell you nothing. They just say no. 0:46:03.000 --> 0:46:05.680 The answers no, we're going a different way. When you 0:46:05.880 --> 0:46:10.240 hit around that first fifty, your body, your brain tells 0:46:10.280 --> 0:46:13.840 you this might not be right, This might not be 0:46:13.840 --> 0:46:17.080 the right job for me. There's like making and what 0:46:17.120 --> 0:46:19.120 you need is good people around you. You need a 0:46:19.120 --> 0:46:22.120 good bad support family and friends obviously, but a good 0:46:22.160 --> 0:46:24.080 team as well. You need a good team. So my 0:46:24.719 --> 0:46:27.080 agents and my manager my agents here in the UK 0:46:27.800 --> 0:46:30.320 and my manager I've been with for ten fifteen years, 0:46:30.800 --> 0:46:33.279 and they are very honest with me. And if i'd 0:46:33.280 --> 0:46:35.719 send them an audition that shit, they'll tell me it's shit, 0:46:35.800 --> 0:46:37.319 and I'll go back and I'll redo it and I'll 0:46:37.480 --> 0:46:40.839 work on it. So much of what this job is 0:46:41.160 --> 0:46:44.120 doesn't come down to us. It comes down to, like, 0:46:44.640 --> 0:46:48.720 we wanted someone who lives six foot because we hired 0:46:49.080 --> 0:46:51.960 the girl opposite to be five foot ten, So if 0:46:52.000 --> 0:46:54.759 we hired someone who was five ten, they wouldn't look 0:46:54.880 --> 0:46:57.000 right next to each other on camera. But that's after 0:46:57.040 --> 0:46:59.399 your audition has already happened. So that's such a it's 0:46:59.640 --> 0:47:01.759 not a no, it's not a you weren't good enough 0:47:01.800 --> 0:47:04.480 to get this job. It's a technical thing that happened 0:47:04.560 --> 0:47:06.480 later on, you know what I mean. Or like they 0:47:06.560 --> 0:47:10.719 hire someone to play like an example from the show, 0:47:10.800 --> 0:47:13.719 you know, they hire someone to play Alec, they hire Matt. 0:47:13.840 --> 0:47:19.760 They have to cast someone with skin to play Izzy 0:47:19.920 --> 0:47:22.400 because their biological brother and sisters. They have to do that, 0:47:22.480 --> 0:47:24.480 like they have to look like brother and sister on screen. 0:47:24.800 --> 0:47:27.640 So if they'd hired either Emerald or Matt first, whoever 0:47:27.680 --> 0:47:30.400 it was, they have to match those two people together. 0:47:30.440 --> 0:47:32.319 So whoever was in the audition, then they can start 0:47:32.360 --> 0:47:34.560 whittling down and going, Okay, here are the ones. But 0:47:34.600 --> 0:47:38.359 there's definitely times during that where you go, yep, this 0:47:38.440 --> 0:47:40.920 is this is hard. It's hard to be told no 0:47:41.160 --> 0:47:43.760 over and over and over and over and over again. Definitely, 0:47:46.000 --> 0:47:47.800 And you know, it's one of those moments where I 0:47:48.040 --> 0:47:50.759 don't know that I've ever questioned whether or not I 0:47:50.800 --> 0:47:53.239 want to do this job and whether or not you know, 0:47:53.280 --> 0:47:56.160 I knew from the moment I stepped on stage the 0:47:56.200 --> 0:47:58.080 first theater show I ever did that I want to 0:47:58.080 --> 0:48:00.680 tell stories for the rest of my life. But there 0:48:00.680 --> 0:48:03.680 are moments where you are in this industry and and 0:48:03.800 --> 0:48:06.359 you sort of go, am I ever going to get 0:48:06.360 --> 0:48:09.160 another job? Am I? Is anyone ever going to see 0:48:09.200 --> 0:48:13.440 that I can do this job again? And that happens 0:48:13.880 --> 0:48:17.359 for most actors that I talked to, including myself. After 0:48:17.480 --> 0:48:20.040 just about every job that you do, you sort of 0:48:20.080 --> 0:48:22.239 just wonder. As every job's coming to a close, you're like, 0:48:22.920 --> 0:48:24.680 all right, well, I hope I work again. If not, 0:48:24.760 --> 0:48:27.120 this has been a really nice time and a great career, 0:48:27.160 --> 0:48:29.839 and thank you all for your time. But that's that's 0:48:29.880 --> 0:48:31.719 just part of it. And Tom's very right. You have 0:48:31.760 --> 0:48:33.920 to surround yourself with good people, and you have to 0:48:33.920 --> 0:48:37.560 remind yourself why you started, you know, and why you 0:48:37.800 --> 0:48:39.960 got into this in the first place, and why what 0:48:40.239 --> 0:48:44.239 sparked that passion initially for doing this job. And for 0:48:44.320 --> 0:48:46.879 me it happened at one point I was I'd been 0:48:46.920 --> 0:48:50.520 doing television just kind of it was the same thing 0:48:50.520 --> 0:48:53.520 over and again. And I read Sidney Lamet's book called 0:48:53.560 --> 0:48:56.600 Making Movies. Sydney that was an incredible director from from 0:48:56.640 --> 0:48:59.000 the earlier days of Hollywood, and just the way that 0:48:59.000 --> 0:49:01.279 he spoke about tell stories and the way that he 0:49:01.400 --> 0:49:05.800 spoke about bringing these things to life and all ways 0:49:05.840 --> 0:49:08.279 that he painted a story. It reminded me why I 0:49:08.360 --> 0:49:10.480 love what I do, and it's it's nice to be 0:49:10.520 --> 0:49:14.880 reminded of those things from time to time. Wow, that 0:49:14.960 --> 0:49:17.799 sounds great. Um, I feel like because I'm graduating, it's 0:49:17.880 --> 0:49:20.520 kind of like the end of something beginning of something else. 0:49:21.040 --> 0:49:24.040 So no, it's really great to hear your guys's opinions. 0:49:24.160 --> 0:49:26.319 Thank you so much, and those are always the most 0:49:26.320 --> 0:49:29.040 exciting times. So wishing you all the best, and I 0:49:29.080 --> 0:49:32.680 can't wait to see what you do thank you, bye, 0:49:32.719 --> 0:49:39.160 my dear. I have a great evening. And also, um, 0:49:40.120 --> 0:49:43.920 you have one more guest. I don't want to just 0:49:44.000 --> 0:49:48.080 before Hi, Vivian, how are welcome? Before before this, h 0:49:48.560 --> 0:49:51.200 before we start diving into this, I'm looking at the 0:49:51.280 --> 0:49:54.000 moment thing Kat, what is the what is the money 0:49:54.000 --> 0:49:57.440 at the top? What is this? I don't know above 0:49:57.440 --> 0:49:59.279 the chat. Yeah, I've seen it, but I don't know 0:49:59.320 --> 0:50:02.040 what the thing this is. And it's like donations or 0:50:02.120 --> 0:50:05.719 tips or whatever. Don't stop doing that. Start you can 0:50:05.760 --> 0:50:08.040 watch this. You know you've got your tickets already. This 0:50:08.120 --> 0:50:10.160 is this is You don't need to pay any more 0:50:10.160 --> 0:50:12.879 money to do this. You're all part of the same crowd. 0:50:13.000 --> 0:50:19.040 Stop stop donating money into this. I don't know, but 0:50:19.080 --> 0:50:22.680 like if it's if it's like tips, you don't need 0:50:22.719 --> 0:50:24.680 to do that. This is. This is free. We want 0:50:24.680 --> 0:50:26.440 everyone to enjoy it. Like, you don't need to be 0:50:26.480 --> 0:50:29.200 adding more money to this. It's very very sweet of you, guys, 0:50:29.280 --> 0:50:32.839 and we'll make sure it goes to someone who needs 0:50:32.880 --> 0:50:35.399 it and deserves it. In this case, it will help 0:50:35.400 --> 0:50:37.680 will work with moments make sure. But you guys don't 0:50:37.680 --> 0:50:40.919 need to be donating anything to us all to the show. 0:50:41.719 --> 0:50:44.720 We're good. This is for you, This is for free. Okay, sorry, Vivian, 0:50:44.760 --> 0:50:49.080 go ahead, don't worry. Hi guys, Um, thank you for 0:50:49.120 --> 0:50:53.759 having me. It's exciting as I actually grew up with 0:50:53.800 --> 0:50:57.479 the books already, so I'm Dum's age right now, and 0:50:57.520 --> 0:51:00.960 I started, I think early twenties around with the books 0:51:01.080 --> 0:51:03.560 and I was so sad that the film didn't have 0:51:03.680 --> 0:51:06.560 a second chance thought of, but I have to admit 0:51:06.640 --> 0:51:09.560 the series was just so lovely. You've done such a 0:51:09.600 --> 0:51:14.600 great job. It's been really incredible. Thank you. Yeah, you're well. Yeah. 0:51:14.719 --> 0:51:18.360 So my question for you would be if Shadow Hunters 0:51:18.360 --> 0:51:24.040 still does affect your daily life in ways of funny memories, 0:51:24.200 --> 0:51:29.120 emotional memories, funny sayings, maybe lessons learned, and if so, 0:51:29.840 --> 0:51:35.080 in which exact way and how often? Absolutely, I will 0:51:35.120 --> 0:51:38.520 say that, you know, this series and this story, this 0:51:38.640 --> 0:51:43.520 group of people completely changed my life and still continues 0:51:43.560 --> 0:51:45.520 to be a huge part of it every single day, 0:51:45.560 --> 0:51:49.600 you know it. For me, the biggest reason for that 0:51:49.680 --> 0:51:52.200 are the people, whether it's the people that we worked 0:51:52.200 --> 0:51:54.719 with every day, the friendships we made on set with 0:51:54.719 --> 0:51:58.120 our colleagues and our coworkers, and then with the fandom. 0:51:58.160 --> 0:52:00.160 You know it, was such a huge part of our 0:52:00.200 --> 0:52:02.000 lives still to this day. It's why we're doing this 0:52:02.040 --> 0:52:04.880 podcast is because of all of you angels that have 0:52:05.000 --> 0:52:08.600 created this beautiful community and continue not only to support 0:52:08.680 --> 0:52:11.719 us and the story, but to support each other. And 0:52:11.760 --> 0:52:14.719 that's you know, that's why I will always do anything 0:52:14.760 --> 0:52:17.960 for the Shadow fam because you have been so wonderful 0:52:18.000 --> 0:52:21.680 and so beautiful and so loving to each other. And 0:52:21.719 --> 0:52:25.000 there's so few places, especially on the Internet, that that 0:52:25.160 --> 0:52:29.480 sort of community exists anymore. And I think, you know, 0:52:29.520 --> 0:52:31.920 the fact that that we can keep giving life to 0:52:31.960 --> 0:52:36.280 this is a very beautiful thing. Yeah, it's lovely, agree, 0:52:36.400 --> 0:52:41.200 And it's lovely to be a part of it as well. Absolutely, Yeah, No, 0:52:41.239 --> 0:52:44.279 I agree, And I will say for my part, the 0:52:44.320 --> 0:52:48.840 people that I'm there obviously can't I do this. And 0:52:49.600 --> 0:52:52.880 Matt and Alberto especially are a huge part of my 0:52:52.920 --> 0:52:57.280 life and will be forever. I hope we'll be for 0:52:57.280 --> 0:53:01.040 forever and ever and ever. And we shared special occasions 0:53:01.040 --> 0:53:04.719 with each other. We I ask Matt and Alberto for advice, 0:53:05.280 --> 0:53:07.680 very different types of advice from each of them, but 0:53:07.840 --> 0:53:11.400 advice and those people are still a huge part of 0:53:11.400 --> 0:53:14.080 my life. I'm seeing Darren next summer or this summer, 0:53:14.120 --> 0:53:19.280 I guess now to do some crazy like Woodland Audio 0:53:19.360 --> 0:53:20.680 and live in the woods for a week, which I 0:53:20.719 --> 0:53:23.759 can't wait. You know, these people, these people a part 0:53:23.800 --> 0:53:25.040 of you and a part of your life, and I 0:53:25.080 --> 0:53:30.000 can't Yeah, I couldn't live without them, for sure, Lovely, lovely, 0:53:30.200 --> 0:53:33.080 But do you also maybe have some funny sayings you 0:53:33.239 --> 0:53:36.200 use in your daily life which come from set maybe 0:53:36.800 --> 0:53:40.000 or something like that, something that you know. Alberto and 0:53:40.040 --> 0:53:43.719 I still do the high five with these Yeah, the 0:53:44.400 --> 0:53:46.480 high five we used to do that was probably super 0:53:46.480 --> 0:53:49.840 loud in the microphone and apologize the high five that 0:53:49.880 --> 0:53:52.359 we did on the show we developed we started doing. 0:53:52.360 --> 0:53:54.239 I commem why why we started doing it, but we 0:53:54.239 --> 0:53:56.880 were doing it in our personal lives between us before 0:53:56.920 --> 0:53:58.560 it ended up in the show, and then it ended 0:53:58.640 --> 0:54:02.040 up in the show somehow. Yeah, and we still do 0:54:02.120 --> 0:54:04.839 that to this day. So there are definitely little sort 0:54:04.840 --> 0:54:06.880 of elements that we had in the show that are 0:54:06.880 --> 0:54:12.320 still in this show for sure. That's great, lovely, absolutely well, 0:54:12.320 --> 0:54:14.759 thank you so much for joining us today, Vivian, It's 0:54:14.840 --> 0:54:18.040 been so lovely to chat with you. Yeah to you too, 0:54:18.239 --> 0:54:22.440 thank you, thank you, and hey, folks who are watching. 0:54:22.960 --> 0:54:25.760 If anyone has questions that you want us to answer, 0:54:25.920 --> 0:54:29.200 just put them in the chat and we will answer 0:54:29.239 --> 0:54:31.319 a few of those as and we can write. As 0:54:31.320 --> 0:54:35.839 we're wrapping up here. We had so much planned and 0:54:35.880 --> 0:54:39.759 I don't know how we have done of it. This 0:54:39.880 --> 0:54:41.839 is good though we did the this like, we spent 0:54:41.920 --> 0:54:43.160 a lot of time on the bit that we wanted 0:54:43.200 --> 0:54:46.040 to spend time on, which is great, and I think too, 0:54:46.200 --> 0:54:48.040 we can take some of these other bits and put 0:54:48.080 --> 0:54:53.480 them when we can do them. With some of these 0:54:53.520 --> 0:54:55.399 we had some games planned for those of you who 0:54:55.400 --> 0:54:57.200 are watching, and we definitely want to get to some 0:54:57.239 --> 0:55:02.160 of those games, but we cannot. Oh, pocket cookies, how 0:55:02.160 --> 0:55:04.880 can we put a pocket cookies? Oh? Shoot, that's right, 0:55:04.960 --> 0:55:07.680 pocket cookies? I know Alberto stilled as pocket like right 0:55:07.719 --> 0:55:10.359 now it's not cookies. But I will show you right 0:55:10.360 --> 0:55:12.360 now in my pocket I have I have Dand do 0:55:12.360 --> 0:55:19.279 you want to treat pocket dan cookies? There's little what's 0:55:19.280 --> 0:55:23.760 this here? He comes there? You go come and get it. 0:55:23.800 --> 0:55:28.320 Sniff sniff, stif stiff. Oh my goodness, good boy, good boy? 0:55:30.680 --> 0:55:33.799 What okay? Hold on? If you go to any other 0:55:33.840 --> 0:55:36.000 institute in the world, which one would you go to? 0:55:36.160 --> 0:55:43.120 Don interesting. That's sort of yeah, fair enough, But I 0:55:43.120 --> 0:55:45.560 have started something now that's sort of assuming that there 0:55:45.560 --> 0:55:55.640 are like in the world what we're saying. Yeah, um, 0:55:55.680 --> 0:56:00.800 you know, Mmmm No, I don't know. Maybe um, maybe 0:56:00.840 --> 0:56:04.239 like Australia, like Sydney, like the Sydney Institute. I bet 0:56:04.280 --> 0:56:08.279 that'd be late. I bet they'd be like so chilled. Yeah, 0:56:08.320 --> 0:56:12.440 I think I think Sydney might be the way to go, honestly, Wallace, 0:56:14.160 --> 0:56:18.759 Yeah we met. Oh no, you were at the commit 0:56:18.920 --> 0:56:20.880 I met one of the next time. I did a 0:56:20.920 --> 0:56:23.800 different one, like a year before or after you guys, 0:56:23.800 --> 0:56:26.800 And I also met a cool they're very very slim, 0:56:27.400 --> 0:56:31.480 fun little animals. Um um oh. Someone someone asked, uh, 0:56:31.640 --> 0:56:38.120 books were reading currently? Um? I'm reading a Fitzgerald book 0:56:38.360 --> 0:56:41.280 called Flappers and Philosophers of a lot of his short stories, 0:56:41.360 --> 0:56:44.279 and it's brilliant because they're nice to read on set 0:56:44.320 --> 0:56:45.600 because he can kind of get in and out of 0:56:45.600 --> 0:56:48.319 it pretty quickly. What about you, dum, what are you reading? 0:56:49.320 --> 0:56:51.920 I'm not reading anything I should. Is anyone any recommendations 0:56:51.960 --> 0:56:56.239 I should? I should dive into a book for sure. Um, yeah, 0:56:56.280 --> 0:56:59.399 I'm really not. I've had a beautiful book recently that 0:56:59.480 --> 0:57:04.000 you might love. Um, it's called the Buried Giant. It's 0:57:04.040 --> 0:57:08.120 by issue ro Okay, it's really it's it's sort of 0:57:08.160 --> 0:57:10.319 half in the same way that The Alchemist is kind 0:57:10.360 --> 0:57:14.560 of half fantasy half human truth. It's it's sort of 0:57:14.560 --> 0:57:17.400 a similar tone, and it's really it's really well written, 0:57:18.520 --> 0:57:21.880 quite like it. Okay, I'll look into that. Let's see. 0:57:22.080 --> 0:57:28.120 Any what emoji do you use the most dumb I 0:57:28.120 --> 0:57:30.880 don't know. Let's see. I think I only really send 0:57:31.080 --> 0:57:34.920 emojis to my girlfriend, and it's like the heart one 0:57:35.040 --> 0:57:40.080 or the heart eyes one. Yeah, that's pretty much it. Um. 0:57:40.280 --> 0:57:41.640 We used to have a thing my girlfriend and I 0:57:41.760 --> 0:57:43.479 used to have a thing when I first started sending 0:57:43.520 --> 0:57:47.480 emojis to her, or sort of when we first send 0:57:47.560 --> 0:57:50.560 my heart emoji and I got it wrong and I 0:57:50.600 --> 0:57:54.000 sent the finger emoji, but then didn't. I didn't I 0:57:54.000 --> 0:57:55.680 hadn't noticed that I'd hit the wrong thing and just 0:57:55.720 --> 0:57:57.960 sent it and then didn't think anything of it. And 0:57:58.000 --> 0:58:00.000 then I think she was sort of a bit propled. 0:58:00.040 --> 0:58:01.720 It's like, it's really rude. Why would you send that 0:58:01.760 --> 0:58:04.760 to me? It doesn't really make sense within the pattern 0:58:04.760 --> 0:58:08.360 of what you've been saying. Um. And then for a while, 0:58:08.520 --> 0:58:10.520 instead of sending the heart, we would just send each 0:58:10.560 --> 0:58:13.080 other the finger instead of like just so we would 0:58:13.120 --> 0:58:15.160 never say it would just be this. So if anyone 0:58:15.160 --> 0:58:18.320 ever overlooks and saw our conversations, like these people really 0:58:18.320 --> 0:58:21.160 don't like each other, but it was quite the opposite. Goodness, 0:58:21.160 --> 0:58:22.919 it turns out we really like each other. He's being 0:58:23.000 --> 0:58:30.680 so good my microphone. Oh good boy, Dan, good boy. 0:58:31.160 --> 0:58:39.200 Oh high stand the cutest nugget leave it. Oh he's 0:58:39.200 --> 0:58:45.240 so cross good boy. Yeah, good boy. He's a sweet dude. Um. 0:58:45.280 --> 0:58:48.680 I think the of the emojis that I use the 0:58:48.800 --> 0:58:51.000 two that I use the most, or like the you know, 0:58:51.040 --> 0:58:55.120 the red heart or the face palm emoji, because there's 0:58:55.360 --> 0:59:00.880 so many times. Yeah, right, hearts and face palms. That 0:59:01.000 --> 0:59:06.160 makes sense. Well, Tom, without further ado, shall we yes? 0:59:07.320 --> 0:59:12.480 Shall we move on? Let's to the after party. Let's 0:59:13.280 --> 0:59:17.800 Is that what correct thing for us to be doing? Producers? Producer, Yeah, producers, 0:59:17.800 --> 0:59:20.640 somebody give us, give us a high sign. Is this 0:59:20.680 --> 0:59:22.280 what we're meant to be doing? Because I think I 0:59:22.480 --> 0:59:25.000 did I or did I not see something from our 0:59:25.040 --> 0:59:27.560 team that said we might oh we can go till 0:59:28.440 --> 0:59:32.760 I'm so sorry great, I just saw that texts of 0:59:32.880 --> 0:59:35.720 a lot of devices going on. Panic Dan, the panic. 0:59:36.520 --> 0:59:38.600 You are such a good boy. Where's your sister? What's 0:59:38.640 --> 0:59:44.400 she doing? They're causing some chaos. Oh, okay, how old 0:59:44.480 --> 0:59:49.120 is Rajah? So? Dan is four? Just just just just 0:59:49.200 --> 0:59:56.400 turned for So Rajah is seven? Rights? Almost? Yeah, Raja's seven, 0:59:57.400 --> 1:00:00.720 I think right at the beginning of season to right 1:00:00.880 --> 1:00:04.120 right right at the beginning of season two. U. So, yeah, 1:00:04.240 --> 1:00:08.439 Rajah will be seven. Wow, sweet girl, it's still going strong. Gone. 1:00:08.440 --> 1:00:11.320 What was your question? Well, the question that I have 1:00:11.520 --> 1:00:14.400 next here is have you listened to the soundtrack and 1:00:14.440 --> 1:00:18.880 do you have two favorite songs from it? The soundtrack 1:00:18.920 --> 1:00:24.520 from Charons? Yeah, that makes sense based on the topic 1:00:24.560 --> 1:00:27.280 of this podcast. That makes sense. Yeah, that's what the 1:00:27.360 --> 1:00:30.960 question was. Yeah. Mostly, I don't think I have listened 1:00:31.000 --> 1:00:33.840 to the soundtrack, you know, I think I Yeah, No, 1:00:33.880 --> 1:00:37.200 I don't think I ever have. It's possible that I've 1:00:37.240 --> 1:00:39.040 heard a song come up and been like, oh that's cool. 1:00:39.080 --> 1:00:42.280 I like this song and haven't really thought where it was, 1:00:42.760 --> 1:00:46.400 like where it's come from. But um, yeah, I don't think. 1:00:46.440 --> 1:00:48.880 I don't think I have. I don't think I've already 1:00:48.880 --> 1:00:52.920 sat down and listen to it to the soundtrack. I 1:00:53.000 --> 1:00:55.360 do have to two songs from the soundtrack that I 1:00:55.880 --> 1:01:01.000 quite love. Um one is fire Me's Fate by Ruel 1:01:01.560 --> 1:01:03.840 because Ruel did a lot of the songs for the 1:01:03.920 --> 1:01:07.200 show and she's fantastic. But Fireman's Fate is probably one 1:01:07.240 --> 1:01:08.920 of my favorites because it's got that real kind of 1:01:08.920 --> 1:01:12.240 epic like wolf that comes in and it's you know, 1:01:12.360 --> 1:01:14.560 I think someone in the thing just said, Ember, that's 1:01:14.640 --> 1:01:16.520 your song, and it oh yeah, that's my song. That's 1:01:16.560 --> 1:01:18.880 my song that was on the sun. And I was 1:01:18.920 --> 1:01:23.040 going to say, being good with current events and like 1:01:23.200 --> 1:01:28.000 social popularity stuff, Jesus, Like, my favorite grouping of songs 1:01:28.160 --> 1:01:32.040 is from like the Rolling Stones Beatles era from the 1:01:32.080 --> 1:01:35.160 last five years. It's super impressive for me. What was 1:01:35.200 --> 1:01:36.640 your saying? But the other one, the other one that 1:01:36.680 --> 1:01:40.560 I was going to say, was Nightshade, which is Alberto's 1:01:40.640 --> 1:01:45.600 songs on the Oh yeah, Alberto's songs. I really love 1:01:45.640 --> 1:01:49.360 that one. It's very good. It's been on several playlists 1:01:49.360 --> 1:01:52.320 of mine. Very good. What else we got questions wise, 1:01:52.440 --> 1:01:54.920 let's see here, what's time do we have? We got 1:01:54.920 --> 1:01:56.720 like another five minute? We also play a game if 1:01:56.760 --> 1:01:59.760 you want to pay the game. The game. I wonder 1:01:59.800 --> 1:02:02.680 if there's a game that we could play, do we 1:02:02.720 --> 1:02:05.040 do it? Would you rather? Because that's quick and simple? Okay, still, 1:02:05.120 --> 1:02:06.760 would you rather? Let's do it quick and you all 1:02:06.760 --> 1:02:09.400 can answer in the chat as well, because that's you know, 1:02:09.680 --> 1:02:13.680 we want to include you all, right, don would you 1:02:13.760 --> 1:02:21.840 rather be a steely or a vampire? Thousand really never eat, 1:02:21.920 --> 1:02:24.120 flood or drink anything else for the rest of your 1:02:24.120 --> 1:02:27.840 life for the rest of time because no, no no, because 1:02:28.000 --> 1:02:31.240 the rest of time. But that's also not true technically. 1:02:31.800 --> 1:02:35.560 First of all, all of these things are avoidable. Like 1:02:35.600 --> 1:02:38.160 if you if you if death were if you were 1:02:38.200 --> 1:02:41.800 to live your eighty years and decide this is the 1:02:42.040 --> 1:02:44.520 end of whatever, and you just wanted to watch the 1:02:44.520 --> 1:02:47.800 sunrise and that would be the end for you. I 1:02:47.800 --> 1:02:50.800 don't know, would get into sort of problematic talk about 1:02:50.800 --> 1:02:53.080 what that is. But I also think, like you were 1:02:53.200 --> 1:02:55.640 want human, you've become a vampire, and if you wanted 1:02:55.720 --> 1:02:58.680 this is this to be, you know, the the span 1:02:58.760 --> 1:03:01.520 of your life instead of seeing the people you love, 1:03:01.600 --> 1:03:04.920 dyeing whatever, then that choice is sort of their for you. However, 1:03:07.320 --> 1:03:09.640 I think I would also by the way, I will 1:03:09.680 --> 1:03:13.680 say that we've showed Alberto eating food. We showed Alberto 1:03:13.720 --> 1:03:15.520 eating tacos and he just had to put a little 1:03:15.520 --> 1:03:18.480 bit of blood on them. He could get them down. 1:03:18.480 --> 1:03:19.919 You can stand them, so you can still eat food. 1:03:19.960 --> 1:03:21.280 It just has to be with blood, which is kind 1:03:21.280 --> 1:03:26.959 of gross, But I digress. I think Sealy's first of all, 1:03:27.520 --> 1:03:31.000 like I have hay fever, I have seasonal allergies, so 1:03:31.040 --> 1:03:34.320 I think like flowers and my clothes and like always 1:03:34.360 --> 1:03:36.920 being out in the woods would just drive me fucking mental, 1:03:37.080 --> 1:03:39.960 Like my eyes and beg everywhere I go. That honestly 1:03:40.000 --> 1:03:42.320 would drive me. Like sometimes being in the sea Lee Glade, 1:03:42.400 --> 1:03:45.800 the sets would drive me nuts. Imagine the pussy willows everywhere, 1:03:45.920 --> 1:03:48.560 everywhere you will the pussy willows. Yeah, which, if you 1:03:48.600 --> 1:03:53.200 haven't ever go back to the podcast episode whatever, whatever 1:03:53.240 --> 1:03:58.400 season two episode might be, Season two episode eleven, all right, 1:03:59.000 --> 1:04:04.040 seen two episode one, yes, eleven, one of them, whichever 1:04:04.080 --> 1:04:06.080 one it is, go back and find us talking about 1:04:06.080 --> 1:04:09.600 pussy willows, because it's just an absolute nightmare. Vampire you 1:04:09.600 --> 1:04:12.720 get Vampi speed. You get to dress cool, although arguably 1:04:12.720 --> 1:04:14.560 you can dress call a zecilia as well, but like 1:04:14.600 --> 1:04:18.320 they have cool dress sense for sort for sure. You 1:04:18.400 --> 1:04:21.320 just have the sacrifice of being a sun which that 1:04:21.320 --> 1:04:24.560 would kind of suck. I don't know. I'm my gut 1:04:24.600 --> 1:04:28.160 is telling me vampire, so I'm staying with vampire. All right. Well, 1:04:28.200 --> 1:04:31.320 you know you have been a vampire before experience in 1:04:31.360 --> 1:04:34.520 the cent, so you know, so comfort zone for you. 1:04:34.560 --> 1:04:40.320 I guess what about you? I really would say, seriously, Yeah, 1:04:40.360 --> 1:04:42.560 I think there's something really interesting and we didn't really 1:04:42.560 --> 1:04:46.360 find out a ton about this in the series. We've 1:04:46.560 --> 1:04:48.760 learned a little bits, but we didn't really get you 1:04:48.800 --> 1:04:57.520 know much, you know, um also political atmosphere constantly. Yeah. 1:04:57.600 --> 1:05:01.000 I think I think very mysterious beautiful about them, and 1:05:01.000 --> 1:05:03.360 I'd love to and the fact that they moved through 1:05:04.200 --> 1:05:10.440 space so easily and so much would be very interesting. Yeah. 1:05:10.560 --> 1:05:12.720 I agree. Oh that's a really good point that they 1:05:12.720 --> 1:05:15.080 all just said. If I bait a shadow hunter a 1:05:15.120 --> 1:05:19.720 shadow hunter, yeah, a very specific type of shadow hunter, 1:05:19.720 --> 1:05:21.320 I will become a daylighter. Will I have to do? 1:05:21.320 --> 1:05:24.680 It's fine? One of Simon? Did it could be yea too. 1:05:24.720 --> 1:05:27.400 Would it exist in the entire universe though it won't 1:05:27.440 --> 1:05:30.919 be too hard to find? Yeah? Yeah, who's the other one? 1:05:31.960 --> 1:05:35.840 Clarie and Jays Clary has it as well, yeah, it's 1:05:35.840 --> 1:05:41.040 the angelic blood. I don't know that, yep. I mean 1:05:41.560 --> 1:05:44.400 shot sunlight out of my hand and make portals. Yeah, 1:05:44.520 --> 1:05:46.760 and you have the Golden eyes and stuff. It just 1:05:46.800 --> 1:05:51.919 manifests itself differently. People, no kidding. This is a good one. Okay, 1:05:51.920 --> 1:05:54.240 I got a good one. You're ready be friends with 1:05:54.280 --> 1:06:04.160 Clarie or be friends with Jayce? Both? Can't say both. 1:06:04.880 --> 1:06:07.200 I think it's a safer I think okay, I think 1:06:07.200 --> 1:06:09.400 it would be more fun to be friends with Clary, 1:06:09.600 --> 1:06:12.440 But I think it would be safer for your life 1:06:12.480 --> 1:06:16.400 to be friends with Jase. Probably your mental health as well. Yeah, 1:06:16.440 --> 1:06:18.520 because because Clary, I feel like, ends up a lot 1:06:18.520 --> 1:06:20.320 of our friends that up, you know, getting killed or 1:06:20.360 --> 1:06:24.840 turned various creatures. Um, but jas is kind of grumpy 1:06:24.960 --> 1:06:29.880 a lot. Jason's grumpy a lot. Yeah. Wow. It started 1:06:30.000 --> 1:06:32.480 very jay strong in the comments, and now it's gotten 1:06:32.560 --> 1:06:35.440 very mixed. It's gotten very who people who keep writing 1:06:35.480 --> 1:06:38.880 both don't understand how the game works. The game is 1:06:39.080 --> 1:06:43.040 would you rather? You can't say? I can't say both both. 1:06:44.840 --> 1:06:47.240 The answer, by the way, is obviously Jase. Like if 1:06:47.280 --> 1:06:51.320 it we're talking about with a world the story of 1:06:51.400 --> 1:06:56.040 shadow Hunts, these threats exist. Jase is the best soldier 1:06:56.040 --> 1:06:59.400 that has existed. Clary comes in and goes, yeah, I 1:06:59.400 --> 1:07:02.000 can take this on. I'll take this on on my own. Yeah, no, 1:07:02.120 --> 1:07:04.720 no big deal and just gets people murdered all the time. 1:07:05.160 --> 1:07:09.600 Obviously is the right answer? Who said Alex? That's somebody 1:07:09.600 --> 1:07:12.440 in the check So you know what, the real right 1:07:12.480 --> 1:07:19.760 answer to this quickness is Simon, because Simon is to 1:07:19.920 --> 1:07:23.000 anyone ever in the entire city, Simon is a good friend. Yeah, 1:07:23.080 --> 1:07:26.160 and maybe Alberto honestly, but that's not how the game works. 1:07:26.200 --> 1:07:28.800 I don't understand. I don't understand how it could be clear. 1:07:28.840 --> 1:07:30.760 The title of the game is would you rather? And 1:07:30.800 --> 1:07:32.440 then you get given two answers. You have to pick 1:07:32.480 --> 1:07:34.920 one of those two. It's not who would you be 1:07:34.960 --> 1:07:37.640 friends with in the Shadow Hunters, it's not who would 1:07:37.640 --> 1:07:39.600 you be friends within the world. It's would you rather 1:07:39.640 --> 1:07:41.920 one or two? It's very simple. I don't understand. We 1:07:41.920 --> 1:07:46.480 should move on. What's the next one? Oh, let's do one, 1:07:46.960 --> 1:07:52.520 and then I do put things up and give Alex's turn. 1:07:53.320 --> 1:07:59.840 How about this, h would you rather tell a new 1:08:00.120 --> 1:08:03.840 porter about the shadow World or Triumphant? That's what I 1:08:03.920 --> 1:08:05.960 was just thinking. That's the one I just read and 1:08:06.000 --> 1:08:07.480 I was like, Wow, I really don't know how to 1:08:07.520 --> 1:08:13.320 answer this. I feel like my instinct is telling me 1:08:13.720 --> 1:08:17.680 one way, but I feel like that's problematic in a 1:08:17.680 --> 1:08:21.000 lot of ways, encouraging people to do something they shouldn't do, 1:08:24.040 --> 1:08:26.400 and the other one sort of destroys the lives of 1:08:26.840 --> 1:08:33.000 hundreds and hundreds of people. So I think, I think, 1:08:33.280 --> 1:08:34.760 if I think for me, it would have to be 1:08:34.920 --> 1:08:37.920 in fam like, you'd have to do that to protect 1:08:37.960 --> 1:08:41.960 the people around you. Yeah, try it once, you know, 1:08:42.680 --> 1:08:45.160 do it with the supervision of people around you, and 1:08:45.200 --> 1:08:49.120 then lock yourself away and get yourself like off this train, 1:08:49.520 --> 1:08:52.640 and then know that you've kept the shadow world safe. 1:08:53.880 --> 1:08:57.400 I think that would be that would be the way. Well, 1:08:57.479 --> 1:09:02.000 it's it's gone very fifty fifty again become the comments 1:09:02.080 --> 1:09:05.760 that's wild. Now. I would I would actually tell a 1:09:05.840 --> 1:09:09.400 news reporter about the shadow World, because really, out of 1:09:09.479 --> 1:09:12.200 ten they won't believe you, and they'll just go, okay, 1:09:12.240 --> 1:09:15.559 crazy lady, have a nice day, you know, because that's 1:09:15.560 --> 1:09:19.840 again not really the game. It doesn't say, it doesn't 1:09:19.840 --> 1:09:23.360 seem tell a news reporter with evidence. It doesn't specify 1:09:23.400 --> 1:09:27.639 you're correct, it doesn't specify, But I think in the 1:09:27.680 --> 1:09:31.479 realm of this game, we're saying, the likelihood is that 1:09:31.520 --> 1:09:34.759 the news reporter is then going to tell the world. Okay, fine, 1:09:34.880 --> 1:09:38.360 then then the answer is then tell the world about 1:09:38.360 --> 1:09:41.719 the shadow world or try again. Then that's okay. Well, 1:09:41.760 --> 1:09:44.000 that's that's not that's not what's written on the paper, 1:09:44.080 --> 1:09:47.680 darm that's nothing. Rather, no, it's not. So that's one 1:09:47.840 --> 1:09:51.360 rules the game, according to your rules. The game rules. Fine, 1:09:51.439 --> 1:09:57.599 you're right, you're right, I'll take heed fair enough. Oh 1:09:57.640 --> 1:10:02.200 my goodness, Well, folks, this has been so amazing, and 1:10:02.280 --> 1:10:04.640 thank you so much for all of your questions, to 1:10:04.680 --> 1:10:08.080 our guests who came in such a wonderful new life 1:10:08.080 --> 1:10:11.320 to the show, and to all of you and our 1:10:11.360 --> 1:10:15.479 producers for setting this up and helping us to make 1:10:15.520 --> 1:10:19.640 all of us possible as well, supporting us through this 1:10:19.680 --> 1:10:23.080 and being fantastic. Um you're the best, and he'd thank 1:10:23.080 --> 1:10:27.200 you to our producers a propagate, to our radios on 1:10:27.240 --> 1:10:29.840 the air, and to each and every one of you 1:10:30.040 --> 1:10:33.280 for listening and tuning in and continuing this journey with us, 1:10:34.120 --> 1:10:36.880 and hopefully a lot of you are joining us as 1:10:36.920 --> 1:10:41.000 well for the after party. For the after party hosted 1:10:41.000 --> 1:10:43.920 by the one and only or or performed by not 1:10:44.040 --> 1:10:50.000 we're also hosting, but during it's it's all about Alex Kinsey. 1:10:50.080 --> 1:10:52.000 Let's just put it that way. It was our brilliant 1:10:52.040 --> 1:10:58.000 and tellented friend and the yeah, the I forget to 1:10:59.240 --> 1:11:03.080 completely always supposed to do. So let's go to you've 1:11:03.080 --> 1:11:06.160 got the papers in front, hold on, say it on 1:11:06.160 --> 1:11:11.960 the most Oh no, oh no, we're supposed to hide 1:11:11.960 --> 1:11:16.479 our cameras and mute. Yeah, and then and then there's 1:11:16.479 --> 1:11:21.320 a mic check and then yeah, now I'm with you. 1:11:21.560 --> 1:11:23.800 Now I'm with you. Thank good. This is what it's 1:11:23.840 --> 1:11:26.760 really like recording the podcast. It's just most of Dom 1:11:26.840 --> 1:11:32.479 and I are just figuring out technically this is a nightmare. 1:11:32.520 --> 1:11:38.000 Like our producers are saints. They're absolute, like popping bottles 1:11:38.040 --> 1:11:40.760 of champagne that this is the last episode for a while, 1:11:40.800 --> 1:11:43.000 so they don't have to be No, I'm kidding. It's 1:11:43.000 --> 1:11:44.639 been a pleasure. Okay. Now we are going to say 1:11:44.640 --> 1:11:46.080 goodbye and then I'm going to do the things that 1:11:46.120 --> 1:11:49.439 I was told to do and then we'll see party. 1:11:50.320 --> 1:12:33.000 Why Yeah, Alex, that's what it is. Welcome back everyone too. 1:12:34.280 --> 1:12:38.400 I was live. We have a new person. Look at 1:12:39.040 --> 1:12:44.120 you pour and I know, but it doesn't have you're 1:12:44.160 --> 1:12:47.920 supposed to be doing in the can it has the 1:12:47.960 --> 1:12:52.200 little canister in the bottles. It doesn't has something called 1:12:52.200 --> 1:12:54.760 widget and it means you don't have to pour it 1:12:54.840 --> 1:12:58.920 like that. No, but this doesn't do the thing. No, 1:12:59.520 --> 1:13:01.960 the widge it stops you from so you don't need to. 1:13:02.040 --> 1:13:04.400 But whenever you're pouring a point, you pour it that, 1:13:04.560 --> 1:13:07.000 you tilt the glass and you pour it down the 1:13:06.680 --> 1:13:10.080 side of the No, the whole way through. I'm sorry, folks, 1:13:10.120 --> 1:13:13.760 this is no longer the Shadows. This is obviously. Tom 1:13:13.800 --> 1:13:16.640 explains how wrong you have a fifty fifty mix of 1:13:16.680 --> 1:13:19.280 a Guinness there, which is wrong, which is maybe that's 1:13:19.280 --> 1:13:22.080 what he likes. Maybe that's what was my second one. 1:13:22.280 --> 1:13:28.680 So yeah, yeah, maybe that helps performance. Hi, everybody, welcome party, 1:13:29.000 --> 1:13:33.960 big round of applause to Kinsey, who, now some of 1:13:34.000 --> 1:13:37.160 you may know, the brilliant and wonderfully talented else Kinsey 1:13:37.720 --> 1:13:41.160 compose our theme tune for Return to the Shadows, So 1:13:41.240 --> 1:13:47.720 thank you. Before I know, it just has a has 1:13:46.360 --> 1:13:51.720 a British that is from a TV show that we 1:13:51.800 --> 1:13:53.720 used to have here, which but let's you guys know what, 1:13:53.840 --> 1:13:55.240 it doesn't matter. I don't know why I brought it up. 1:13:55.240 --> 1:13:58.600 Why what shows it from? It's called Little Britain. It 1:13:58.720 --> 1:14:01.519 was a very popular show. Well yeah, years and years 1:14:01.520 --> 1:14:04.160 and years ago, and then it is now being seen 1:14:04.200 --> 1:14:07.400 as very problematic, which sort of get um to be honest, 1:14:07.439 --> 1:14:09.240 and it kind of makes sense. So there you go, 1:14:10.120 --> 1:14:11.880 by the way. In case anyone is curious why I 1:14:11.920 --> 1:14:14.040 keep looking over here, it's because that's where the chat is. 1:14:14.160 --> 1:14:15.840 I don't want you to think that I'm just fully 1:14:15.880 --> 1:14:23.840 ignoring one very specific spot of something. Stuff slightly to 1:14:23.880 --> 1:14:27.520 the right, beautiful. It's like it might be the parakeets. 1:14:28.800 --> 1:14:31.680 It could be or it could be parakeets. Yeah, you 1:14:31.680 --> 1:14:34.479 don't know about the earl A parakeets. Oh the La parakeets. 1:14:34.479 --> 1:14:36.960 I thought you specifically had pet parakeets. And I was 1:14:36.960 --> 1:14:39.160 about to get very excited. I don't have pets. That 1:14:39.200 --> 1:14:42.840 means that I would have to have responsibilities. Oh I see. 1:14:45.200 --> 1:14:51.040 Oh my goodness, how that guinness taste mostly foam for me? Yeah, 1:14:51.920 --> 1:14:54.679 but no fomo, get out there and teach you. No fomo, 1:14:54.760 --> 1:14:57.720 that's true. No fomo, that's positive, right, little foamy, But 1:14:57.800 --> 1:15:00.400 no fomo, that's I think that's You're going to be 1:15:00.520 --> 1:15:05.280 my next album name. I think actually what was what 1:15:05.360 --> 1:15:07.240 was the one that I loved that I thought was hysterical? 1:15:07.280 --> 1:15:11.519 Slightly better than silence? Yep, that was the thing my 1:15:11.680 --> 1:15:15.479 entire life. Thanks you could listen to silence, this is 1:15:15.600 --> 1:15:18.240 slightly better. I would have learned to say that your 1:15:18.360 --> 1:15:21.720 music is more than slightly better than silence. That's just 1:15:21.760 --> 1:15:24.639 my personality. Kind of you. That is so kind. Thank you. 1:15:26.200 --> 1:15:29.639 So you know right, very hard. You you do very well. 1:15:29.920 --> 1:15:31.920 I mean this was sort of a no brainer for 1:15:32.000 --> 1:15:34.320 us when we were making this podcast and trying to 1:15:34.320 --> 1:15:35.880 figure out what the theme tune was going to be 1:15:36.160 --> 1:15:37.720 that we were going to, you know, come to you 1:15:37.800 --> 1:15:41.920 and ask ask for your help. Thank you appreciate that. Guys, 1:15:42.120 --> 1:15:46.360 you are I like theme tune, and I really appreciate this. 1:15:46.640 --> 1:15:49.160 It's very cool. I've seen I was watching you guys 1:15:49.200 --> 1:15:52.760 on the pre after party, which I guess is just 1:15:52.840 --> 1:15:58.800 the party, just the party. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I 1:15:58.840 --> 1:16:01.679 realized how I mean, I've always known that the show 1:16:01.880 --> 1:16:04.120 that Shadow Hunters has had a huge effect on tons 1:16:04.120 --> 1:16:06.840 and tons and tons of people, to the point where 1:16:06.920 --> 1:16:11.880 it's affected me as your friend, just because I'm your friend, 1:16:11.960 --> 1:16:13.360 you know, and I love that. It's so cool. I 1:16:13.360 --> 1:16:15.040 get to be a part of such a cool community 1:16:15.120 --> 1:16:18.200 because I just like you guys. But then hearing y'all 1:16:18.240 --> 1:16:20.040 talk about this and reading the chat and seeing how 1:16:20.120 --> 1:16:22.599 much the like just talking about the show and getting 1:16:22.640 --> 1:16:24.360 people back involved in I don't know, it's really cool 1:16:24.360 --> 1:16:27.000 that you guys were able to connect with a brand 1:16:27.040 --> 1:16:29.479 new group of people and the old group of people 1:16:29.520 --> 1:16:31.439 that you've had around for all this time. I don't know, 1:16:31.439 --> 1:16:33.519 you guys have done a really great job. Congratulations on 1:16:33.520 --> 1:16:37.240 the success and also being two beautiful, beautiful people. Oh 1:16:37.360 --> 1:16:40.920 thank you. We just get on microphones and just talk 1:16:40.960 --> 1:16:46.439 at each other. It's definitely nice for radio. Yeah, it 1:16:46.479 --> 1:16:51.120 was a very podcasting look to him, usting face. In fact, 1:16:51.160 --> 1:16:53.479 I was terrified when they said we're going to start 1:16:53.520 --> 1:16:56.320 using the cameras, and I was like, oh, usual, yeah, 1:16:57.400 --> 1:17:01.360 because that's definitely running for you ever right we wow, 1:17:01.600 --> 1:17:06.599 Well we love seen you running all unacceptable guys. All right, 1:17:06.680 --> 1:17:09.680 let's stick to the script, shall we. Fuckers What it 1:17:09.720 --> 1:17:12.040 says in the script that I got to see earlier 1:17:12.040 --> 1:17:14.799 and I got to vitos some stuff. Yeah, good good lord, 1:17:15.400 --> 1:17:17.920 I earlier too, and I got to re un vetos 1:17:17.960 --> 1:17:29.840 some stuff similar to the pre after party. Uh huh yeah, yeah, 1:17:29.880 --> 1:17:32.559 I like preafter part. Stop vamping you to stop. Now, 1:17:32.600 --> 1:17:34.479 this is just my job, This is my job. I 1:17:34.560 --> 1:17:37.599 just I just I'm slowly back to what we're supposed 1:17:37.600 --> 1:17:42.639 to be talking about that. Oh I know, Oh, I know, 1:17:43.760 --> 1:17:45.960 just slowly just wheeling him in a little by little 1:17:46.000 --> 1:17:48.479 pre Yeah, you will say it like it's a negative thing. 1:17:48.520 --> 1:17:53.200 I'm boring, would your lives? Yeah, that is true, That 1:17:53.360 --> 1:17:58.280 is very true. I always say this about shadow Hunters. 1:17:58.360 --> 1:18:00.559 I'm so glad I had all of view. And this 1:18:00.600 --> 1:18:03.320 includes you too, Kinsey, during that time in my life 1:18:03.320 --> 1:18:06.120 because I really needed someone in my life to push 1:18:06.160 --> 1:18:08.360 me a little bit, to try things new and step 1:18:08.400 --> 1:18:10.760 out of my comfort zone and you know, take some 1:18:10.880 --> 1:18:13.320 risks in life. And that was all of you, guys, 1:18:13.360 --> 1:18:16.000 because you created a safe space to take risks and 1:18:16.160 --> 1:18:19.240 have fun and live a little We make cat drink 1:18:19.320 --> 1:18:22.720 to say, did make cat drink drunk? Chas? Look at 1:18:22.720 --> 1:18:28.840 her now? Who knows? Now she well, Um, let's get 1:18:28.880 --> 1:18:35.360 back that we were talking about. Um before anyone says 1:18:35.360 --> 1:18:38.680 anything terrible, why don't you tell us what it was 1:18:38.720 --> 1:18:42.280 like writing the theme tune. I remember, I remember calling you. 1:18:42.320 --> 1:18:44.639 I was in Santa Barbara when I called you yeah 1:18:44.840 --> 1:18:47.479 and said, we've had this idea, Um, would you be 1:18:47.520 --> 1:18:51.640 willing to sit down and maybe write something? You know, 1:18:51.960 --> 1:18:54.160 my friends, of the people that I know who I 1:18:54.160 --> 1:18:57.120 could ask to do this, and arguably arguably of the 1:18:57.120 --> 1:18:59.519 people that I would ask in the world if I 1:18:59.600 --> 1:19:01.479 knew any body, you were on the top of that 1:19:01.520 --> 1:19:03.519 list too, because I've seen what you can do and 1:19:03.520 --> 1:19:09.200 how you can compose, compose and create very good computer 1:19:09.400 --> 1:19:12.160 develop things that are very thematic to what you know 1:19:12.479 --> 1:19:15.599 the sources. So um to me that you were the choice, 1:19:15.640 --> 1:19:17.800 you were graciously accepted, and then tell us what the 1:19:17.800 --> 1:19:20.519 process was after that. Thanks, man, that's really kind. It's 1:19:20.520 --> 1:19:23.400 funny that you say composer because a lot of people have, um, 1:19:23.960 --> 1:19:25.200 not a lot of people, but a lot of people 1:19:25.240 --> 1:19:27.080 that I've worked with have sort of asked, you know, 1:19:27.120 --> 1:19:30.080 are you artist? Are you writer? Are you producer? And 1:19:30.120 --> 1:19:32.240 I don't. I mean, I'm definitely all of those things 1:19:32.280 --> 1:19:35.120 to some degree. But then I realized, I guess I'm 1:19:35.160 --> 1:19:37.439 more of a composer than anything, because like that creation 1:19:37.640 --> 1:19:40.200 of a sound and figuring out what needs to happen 1:19:40.439 --> 1:19:44.120 sonically and to emote, like to get you to emote 1:19:44.160 --> 1:19:47.640 the right feelings and to sort of connect in the 1:19:47.720 --> 1:19:49.240 right way. That's always been the thing that made me 1:19:49.240 --> 1:19:52.920 feel really good, was that part of music making. So 1:19:52.960 --> 1:19:54.320 when you guys asked me to do this, it was 1:19:54.360 --> 1:19:58.799 really Honestly, I've never done anything with such little lyrics, 1:19:59.320 --> 1:20:01.759 and also I never done anything that was like, hey, 1:20:02.080 --> 1:20:04.040 you know, it's very this is a very thematic show. 1:20:04.120 --> 1:20:08.080 It's very very specifically this so if you could kind 1:20:08.080 --> 1:20:09.880 of follow that theme, I don't know that it was 1:20:09.960 --> 1:20:12.920 an interesting ask, but I was really excited to get 1:20:12.960 --> 1:20:15.600 into it, and I don't know, I listened to a 1:20:15.640 --> 1:20:18.960 lot of what was played on the show. I listened 1:20:19.000 --> 1:20:22.520 to a lot of honestly, just the type of instruments 1:20:22.640 --> 1:20:24.400 was that. That was a big part of it, is 1:20:24.439 --> 1:20:27.400 finding the right synth sounds and the right bass sounds 1:20:27.400 --> 1:20:29.400 and getting the guitar to sound right because it's a 1:20:29.479 --> 1:20:32.640 very ethereal type vibe, you know. So yeah, I don't know, 1:20:32.640 --> 1:20:34.479 it was it was fun to find that and tweak 1:20:34.520 --> 1:20:37.280 it and get the right sounds. And then, honestly, I 1:20:37.320 --> 1:20:39.960 listened to a bunch of podcast themes songs as well 1:20:40.200 --> 1:20:42.400 prior to doing that, and I was like, why do 1:20:42.479 --> 1:20:46.479 we say anything other than return to the shadows? Right? 1:20:46.479 --> 1:20:49.040 And then Kat, you came over, and I mean, honestly, 1:20:49.040 --> 1:20:51.519 what we do three takes of return? But yeah, we 1:20:51.560 --> 1:20:53.800 spent a total of thirteen minutes recording it. That's what 1:20:53.840 --> 1:20:55.160 I was gonna say. I don't even think we've spent 1:20:55.160 --> 1:20:57.559 thirteen minutes recording it. I think you spent thirteen minutes 1:20:57.600 --> 1:20:59.439 from getting out of your car to getting back into 1:20:59.479 --> 1:21:05.280 your car. That's true, in your house so quick, which 1:21:05.360 --> 1:21:07.400 was great. Honestly. It made it so easy because then 1:21:07.400 --> 1:21:09.280 we had like a bunch of things to choose from. 1:21:09.320 --> 1:21:10.840 I didn't have to go and tune and edit. No, 1:21:11.000 --> 1:21:12.800 it was great. It was right there. I got to 1:21:12.840 --> 1:21:15.560 pull from it, and you nailed it first try. And 1:21:16.200 --> 1:21:18.720 you did nothing. You just sat back and you came 1:21:18.800 --> 1:21:23.320 up with the idea of having me. You actually you're 1:21:23.360 --> 1:21:27.920 in the cho have known each other without me. You 1:21:27.920 --> 1:21:30.720 wouldn't have a show without me. You're my friend. This 1:21:30.760 --> 1:21:34.040 is how we connected you it. Yeah, and and now 1:21:34.080 --> 1:21:36.759 I'm so knowledgeable, dude, I know everything about the show. 1:21:36.960 --> 1:21:39.960 It's true. Everything you read all the books, right, and 1:21:40.640 --> 1:21:47.240 just such a I've wanted the last scene of every 1:21:47.240 --> 1:21:54.160 episode like four times. The very last scene, you guys 1:21:54.320 --> 1:21:58.000 are all together for one final moment, and then it 1:21:58.000 --> 1:22:01.680 cuts to black. No, no, wrong, Well, well if he 1:22:01.760 --> 1:22:06.040 means all actually Kinsey, by all, you mean all here, 1:22:06.160 --> 1:22:08.920 like the two of us, right, all I only know here, 1:22:08.960 --> 1:22:12.840 guys say, oh, I don't think of Alberto and what 1:22:13.040 --> 1:22:16.120 I don't even know their other names? Honest, Alberto, the one, 1:22:16.200 --> 1:22:22.760 the other one your friends with Matt. I think involved 1:22:23.920 --> 1:22:30.120 set lots of mats. Yeah, at once was in it. 1:22:30.439 --> 1:22:33.679 Yeah that again, we did it very d We should 1:22:33.680 --> 1:22:39.360 have put that again. Wonderful, wonder very well done. Um. 1:22:39.520 --> 1:22:41.640 But actually so since we're on the theme and on 1:22:41.680 --> 1:22:44.120 all of that, if you guys want, I can show 1:22:44.160 --> 1:22:49.559 you just a quick breakdown of like stuff. Yes, please, yeah, everything. 1:22:49.680 --> 1:22:53.080 He just Alex Kinsey Master's class. This is what we want? 1:22:53.520 --> 1:22:57.559 Is it? Hold on one second while I get it working. 1:22:58.960 --> 1:23:01.040 I took a stab with the tech. We took a 1:23:01.160 --> 1:23:02.920 We took a real stab that the tech was going 1:23:03.000 --> 1:23:06.360 to be on our side. We really really did. Okay, 1:23:06.680 --> 1:23:09.439 hold on, We're gonna try this and you might get 1:23:09.439 --> 1:23:11.400 a little look behind the curtain, but we're gonna try 1:23:11.400 --> 1:23:13.240 to not let you have a look behind the curtain. 1:23:15.120 --> 1:23:19.280 All right, let's see. Are you guys seeing the screen? Nope, no, 1:23:20.680 --> 1:23:25.160 anyone is anyone on the stream seeing the screen? What 1:23:25.160 --> 1:23:29.360 about the yeah? Hey, well it's hey, look at that. 1:23:29.360 --> 1:23:31.719 It was a quick scroll too far. We're gonna scroll 1:23:31.760 --> 1:23:36.679 back now we're good, so good, I'll I'll just show 1:23:36.680 --> 1:23:38.160 you guys a quick So this is this is what 1:23:38.200 --> 1:23:41.720 a basic production thing looks like, if you guys are 1:23:41.760 --> 1:23:44.519 ever getting into it. I don't know what you're seeing. Cat, 1:23:44.520 --> 1:23:47.919 what are you seeing right now? I'm seeing your screen? 1:23:48.760 --> 1:23:52.439 That is a riverside? Oh you are okay, that's not 1:23:52.479 --> 1:23:54.240 what I clicked. Oh well, that is not at all 1:23:54.280 --> 1:24:00.640 what I clicked. Let's stop that. Yeah, that was a 1:24:00.640 --> 1:24:05.120 lot of seventeen screens within screens with us. It's we're 1:24:05.160 --> 1:24:07.680 trying something new. Why we decided to do this on 1:24:07.800 --> 1:24:09.920 live not a single person. We all knew this was 1:24:09.960 --> 1:24:12.120 going to happen, Not a single person. When there's much 1:24:12.520 --> 1:24:15.080 more time. Now what now, what are you seeing? It's 1:24:15.120 --> 1:24:20.200 loading loading? Yeah, that's the one, great, great, great great great. Okay, 1:24:20.280 --> 1:24:23.479 So now this is what it's supposed to look like. 1:24:23.560 --> 1:24:26.120 This is a basic sort of logic. This is like 1:24:26.160 --> 1:24:29.000 all the sounds, everything that you're seeing here. All these guys, 1:24:29.080 --> 1:24:31.920 these are all sounds, and uh, I have everything muted 1:24:31.960 --> 1:24:33.400 because I wanted to kind of break it down a 1:24:33.400 --> 1:24:36.360 little bit quickly. I'm going to turn the mic over 1:24:36.600 --> 1:24:39.800 over toward the speaker so you can hear it better. 1:24:39.880 --> 1:24:42.920 But right, I think that I'm pretty sure. I started 1:24:42.920 --> 1:24:45.040 with this sounds, so this is a synth sound. And 1:24:45.120 --> 1:24:54.000 we did like so like when we were talking about 1:24:54.000 --> 1:24:57.559 ethereal and kind of spooky, that's you know, yeah, that's 1:24:57.560 --> 1:25:00.200 about as ethereal and spooky as we can get. And 1:25:00.240 --> 1:25:02.559 then we went with a little bit yeah, right, you 1:25:02.600 --> 1:25:04.320 know what I'm saying, and then with a little bass. 1:25:05.560 --> 1:25:15.320 I don't know what that was. I really did build 1:25:15.320 --> 1:25:17.680 the track sort of from start to finish. So we 1:25:17.760 --> 1:25:20.040 started with less and then as we went we got 1:25:20.080 --> 1:25:21.760 a little bit more. So all fast forward a little 1:25:21.800 --> 1:25:24.479 bit here and you can see that, like, you know, 1:25:24.640 --> 1:25:26.599 now we've got a few more colors happening, a few 1:25:26.600 --> 1:25:30.240 more sounds happening, and this was sort of the next progression, 1:25:30.280 --> 1:25:32.720 the next normal progression for what should happen. So there's 1:25:32.720 --> 1:25:34.920 a little bit of a build and the music, you know, 1:25:34.960 --> 1:25:38.120 because there has to be something that builds and starts 1:25:38.160 --> 1:25:43.400 small gets bigger. So the storytelling right, like storytelling exactly, 1:25:43.600 --> 1:25:45.800 it's not even a version of storytelling. It is storytelling 1:25:45.800 --> 1:26:03.800 on um. So here we go. So here's just some 1:26:03.920 --> 1:26:09.040 like percussion that's in the background, and then it starts 1:26:09.040 --> 1:26:11.080 getting bigger and bigger. So then we're going to fast 1:26:11.080 --> 1:26:12.960 forward a little bit too, like when it all kind 1:26:13.000 --> 1:26:17.080 of picks up here and uh now this is like, 1:26:17.160 --> 1:26:19.280 this is all of it together. This is basically the 1:26:19.439 --> 1:26:23.320 entire track without Cat's vocals, all put into one thing. 1:26:23.439 --> 1:26:27.920 So here's kind of the build up and essentially the apex, 1:26:28.000 --> 1:26:40.120 the crescendo. You might say, that's sort of lean melody 1:26:40.320 --> 1:26:44.200 with these sounds. That's guitar and just like messed up 1:26:44.240 --> 1:26:48.880 and tweaked. And then it gets even bigger here with 1:26:48.920 --> 1:26:51.280 some more drums. Let's see, I think these are some 1:26:51.360 --> 1:26:56.639 drums down here. So we've got all that going. It's 1:26:56.680 --> 1:27:06.040 at it all in. Then let's do let's do the 1:27:06.600 --> 1:27:10.280 best part of it all. Here's what we can do 1:27:10.280 --> 1:27:12.200 is you guys just want to hear Cat first before 1:27:12.320 --> 1:27:25.439 all the sound it sounds. Let's do it. Yeah, oh yeah, 1:27:25.439 --> 1:27:27.840 we did harmonies. I forgot some harmonies I threw a 1:27:27.880 --> 1:27:29.360 low one in there just so we had a nice 1:27:29.439 --> 1:27:33.000 full sound, but then with everything so that you guys 1:27:33.000 --> 1:27:35.600 can kind of hear how it goes. Here's how it 1:27:35.680 --> 1:27:50.880 all sounds together. Not that you haven't already heard that, 1:27:50.960 --> 1:27:53.280 I know, but it is nice to kind of see 1:27:53.280 --> 1:27:56.120 it all come together like that, right, But honestly, yeah, 1:27:56.920 --> 1:27:59.840 brilliant minding to see. Yeah, no kidding, Like, there's so 1:28:00.040 --> 1:28:04.040 many elements of that that I without you picking them out. 1:28:04.080 --> 1:28:06.160 I think I'm sure the song is would sort of 1:28:06.160 --> 1:28:08.519 sound empty without like the bassline in it, But until 1:28:08.520 --> 1:28:10.120 you picked it out, I didn't know that was in there. 1:28:10.400 --> 1:28:12.880 And it's fun, dude, as a musician, That's honestly like 1:28:12.920 --> 1:28:14.920 what I do most of the time when I'm listening 1:28:14.960 --> 1:28:17.400 to music, which it kind of makes music tough to 1:28:17.439 --> 1:28:21.080 listen to sometimes because I'm consummate. I'm sure sure you 1:28:21.120 --> 1:28:24.920 guys are watching it's a fucking nightmare watching TV with me, 1:28:25.160 --> 1:28:26.720 like that was a green screen. You're like, how do 1:28:26.760 --> 1:28:28.280 you know when? Why did you just ruin that for me? 1:28:28.439 --> 1:28:30.920 Like point right? Need to know that? Come on, well, 1:28:30.920 --> 1:28:33.160 because you pick out so many elements when you've been 1:28:33.200 --> 1:28:36.040 behind McCurtain, you know how it works. You know how 1:28:36.040 --> 1:28:38.639 the sausage is made, and it's I always know when 1:28:38.640 --> 1:28:43.120 i'm watching a good film because I forget. I didn't 1:28:43.160 --> 1:28:45.599 love that idiom that I didn't like the sausage. How 1:28:45.600 --> 1:28:50.479 the sausage is made like that. Okay, I'm sorry, but 1:28:50.479 --> 1:28:53.360 I offended. It just weirded me out. How the vegan 1:28:53.479 --> 1:28:58.559 sausage is made. Um, You're welcome, but I've got an issue. 1:28:58.640 --> 1:29:01.000 I don't know how that's made. Isn't it an issue 1:29:01.000 --> 1:29:03.519 though that you say that that I mean that that's 1:29:03.560 --> 1:29:06.439 like a phrase how the sausage is made to say, like, oh, 1:29:06.520 --> 1:29:11.519 you don't want to know about things That sausage gross? Exactly, 1:29:11.520 --> 1:29:13.200 I don't because I don't know how it was made. 1:29:13.800 --> 1:29:15.360 Way to go. I'm very proud. I know how it 1:29:15.360 --> 1:29:17.600 was made, and I generally don't eat it. Um No, 1:29:17.720 --> 1:29:19.439 But I always know when I'm watching a good film 1:29:19.520 --> 1:29:22.720 or good TV show because I forget and I don't analyze, 1:29:22.720 --> 1:29:24.160 Oh what kind of shot was that? I wonder what 1:29:24.240 --> 1:29:26.800 lens that was, or oh this person clearly did this, 1:29:26.920 --> 1:29:29.960 or that wardrobe's interesting, or yeah, you know whatever it 1:29:30.040 --> 1:29:33.920 is exactly, and I think that and it probably happens 1:29:33.920 --> 1:29:36.720 with you guys in acting too, because you guys will 1:29:36.760 --> 1:29:39.559 act in a very specific genre, if not for your 1:29:39.560 --> 1:29:41.479 whole career, at least for a small portion of it 1:29:41.520 --> 1:29:43.559 here and there, and you'll do like roles that seem 1:29:43.640 --> 1:29:45.519 to kind of I don't know you guys specifically, but 1:29:45.600 --> 1:29:49.200 you guys as actors seem to take roles that you know, 1:29:49.280 --> 1:29:53.960 complement each other. Yeah in some cases, and yeah, not 1:29:54.000 --> 1:29:56.120 always of course, but in some but and then in music, 1:29:56.240 --> 1:29:58.080 and it's getting less and less this way, but we're 1:29:58.080 --> 1:30:01.679 all very genre based, and then listening to something outside 1:30:01.680 --> 1:30:05.160 of our genre sometimes makes is like the best way 1:30:05.439 --> 1:30:08.120 to not analyze it. And I'm curious like you guys, 1:30:08.640 --> 1:30:12.679 you know, like watching comedic movies, because the few things 1:30:12.680 --> 1:30:14.600 that I do know about Shadow Hunters, I know that 1:30:14.640 --> 1:30:18.120 it was not like hilarious all the time, No, no, 1:30:18.400 --> 1:30:23.639 very few elements. So did mostly cry. Yeah, I did 1:30:23.680 --> 1:30:25.920 notice a lot of crying and like a lot of 1:30:25.960 --> 1:30:30.240 like very serious whisper talking. It's like, oh yeah, yeah, 1:30:30.880 --> 1:30:32.519 shadow on the voice close to the mic, and you 1:30:32.520 --> 1:30:34.000 gotta talk like this if we're gonna talk like a 1:30:34.000 --> 1:30:36.720 shadow Hunter, damn it, this kind of shu. Yeah, it's 1:30:36.720 --> 1:30:39.040 pretty close. Yeah, you go really seriously and you just 1:30:39.080 --> 1:30:41.400 like squint and you just you need like a little 1:30:41.400 --> 1:30:43.479 more intensity, like you've been yelling for a lot of 1:30:43.479 --> 1:30:46.040 your life, you know what I mean. Sure, Like that's 1:30:46.040 --> 1:30:47.880 where a lot of Jas's came from. It came from 1:30:47.920 --> 1:30:49.640 like a guttural like it was the sound in the 1:30:49.640 --> 1:30:52.320 back of his throat. It was like a dangerous like 1:30:52.360 --> 1:30:55.120 he was the front lines for most of his life yelling. 1:30:55.200 --> 1:30:57.280 He was telling people where to be, and that's where 1:30:57.320 --> 1:31:02.439 that came. Oh my gosh, wow, that's why it's switch. Sorry. Sorry, yeah, 1:31:02.560 --> 1:31:07.559 good apologies. Yeah, but I'm here. The first time. The 1:31:07.600 --> 1:31:09.639 first time I heard that voice was in my screen 1:31:09.720 --> 1:31:12.639 test and I'd never heard Dom do an American accent 1:31:12.680 --> 1:31:14.759 before and he flipped into that and I was like, whoa, 1:31:15.120 --> 1:31:20.880 whoa You had known him as the British darm Yeah, yeah, 1:31:22.920 --> 1:31:29.479 I am curious though. I am curious, though, are you Guys? 1:31:29.520 --> 1:31:34.679 Like when you watch a Seth Rogan movie, and it's 1:31:34.720 --> 1:31:37.920 easier than to a movie, like especially a comedy. I 1:31:37.960 --> 1:31:41.160 think it's easier to escape because you're like a lot 1:31:41.200 --> 1:31:45.960 of these comedies are based on what these characters do. 1:31:46.080 --> 1:31:48.880 Like if you're watching a Kevin Hart movie. You know, 1:31:49.080 --> 1:31:53.120 certain yut this like he's going to hit certain points. 1:31:53.840 --> 1:31:56.559 So that's quite interesting to watch because you're like, I'm 1:31:56.600 --> 1:32:00.519 not necessarily expectant of anything, so I can just sort 1:32:00.560 --> 1:32:02.120 of sit back and relax and know that I'm on 1:32:02.200 --> 1:32:04.360 like a Will Ferrell ride or a Seth rogen right 1:32:04.520 --> 1:32:07.000 or Keevin heart right or whatever. But then, interestingly, when 1:32:07.040 --> 1:32:09.000 one of those people switches it and subverts it and 1:32:09.040 --> 1:32:11.960 does something quite dramatic. I just watched I can't remember 1:32:12.000 --> 1:32:14.599 what it was cool, but Kevin Hart plays a single 1:32:14.680 --> 1:32:17.800 father in it. I god, what was the name of 1:32:17.800 --> 1:32:21.600 that movie? I can't remember, but and it's on the 1:32:21.640 --> 1:32:23.400 way through. But then he has these moments where like 1:32:23.720 --> 1:32:25.400 and I was like bawling my eyes out, and it 1:32:25.439 --> 1:32:28.240 completely took me away from that and I wasn't analyzing 1:32:28.240 --> 1:32:29.840 it at all. It was actually like a shock to 1:32:29.880 --> 1:32:32.479 my system, which was quite I think it's the same 1:32:32.520 --> 1:32:35.840 as you're saying when you're switching genres and then they 1:32:35.880 --> 1:32:39.240 throw something in there that they know is within their realm, 1:32:39.600 --> 1:32:42.880 but you didn't know that sure, like, oh wow, this 1:32:42.960 --> 1:32:46.320 is an interesting thing. Like I'm seeing shades of red 1:32:46.520 --> 1:32:48.120 in a painting that I thought was going to be 1:32:48.240 --> 1:32:53.559 predominantly blue, and it's it's entrancing. That's cool. That's a 1:32:53.600 --> 1:32:56.800 really cool thought that it's someone maybe that isn't doing 1:32:56.840 --> 1:33:00.400 a different genre, but you're just expecting you're not expect, right, 1:33:00.560 --> 1:33:03.640 that's a cool thought. Yeah, it's like when does a 1:33:03.720 --> 1:33:05.160 rap and you're like, oh, that was actually kind of 1:33:05.200 --> 1:33:09.040 sick totally Yeah, similar sort of thing. Anyway, what have 1:33:09.080 --> 1:33:11.880 we got on next? I think we should unless this 1:33:11.960 --> 1:33:15.120 is something that's supposed to happen later on. No, do 1:33:15.160 --> 1:33:16.320 you want to do you want to sing a song 1:33:16.360 --> 1:33:20.760 for us? Dude? Yeah? We would love for you. Yeah. Performance, 1:33:22.320 --> 1:33:26.880 This is why I'm here. That's why we stick around, 1:33:27.200 --> 1:33:28.880 all right, So why we came to the after party, 1:33:28.880 --> 1:33:34.080 that's for sure why I'm here. That's right. Can you 1:33:34.120 --> 1:33:40.080 guys hear this? Yeah? Cool? So I don't know, do 1:33:40.080 --> 1:33:42.040 you guys wanna dom? I know that hot Mess is 1:33:42.040 --> 1:33:44.120 like one of your favorites, but I love that song. 1:33:45.040 --> 1:33:46.640 Should I do hot Mess? But there is also a 1:33:46.640 --> 1:33:50.439 new one that you did mention. It's your call, so 1:33:50.680 --> 1:33:52.600 but you know what, it's up to you. What what 1:33:52.640 --> 1:33:54.360 do you want people to hear? Hot Mess? People have 1:33:54.439 --> 1:33:57.360 heard and people have requested hot mess in the chat. 1:33:57.680 --> 1:34:00.120 But the new one if we want to hear, like, 1:34:00.240 --> 1:34:04.240 is it out yet? The new one is? It's a 1:34:04.320 --> 1:34:09.880 world premiere performance, world premiere, a world premiere public. All right, well, 1:34:09.880 --> 1:34:11.920 why don't we will vamp for a couple of seconds. 1:34:12.439 --> 1:34:15.400 Guys listening? We have two choices. We have hot mess 1:34:15.680 --> 1:34:17.720 and then we have a song called straight No? Is 1:34:17.720 --> 1:34:20.240 it called straight No? It's called the Death of Me, 1:34:20.400 --> 1:34:22.400 which is the most We have a song called the 1:34:22.439 --> 1:34:24.880 Death of Me which has never been heard before. It 1:34:24.960 --> 1:34:27.040 is very intense, but it's a very it's actually a 1:34:27.120 --> 1:34:32.320 very lovely song. Most people are just saying both yea. Again, 1:34:32.560 --> 1:34:35.200 that's not what we were. That's not how the game works. 1:34:35.400 --> 1:34:41.360 This was a would you rather guys? This? He was 1:34:42.320 --> 1:34:44.880 I don't know what what you guys were talking about? Yeah, 1:34:45.880 --> 1:34:51.600 what's the first s? What's the sely like that? XI? No? 1:34:52.680 --> 1:34:56.280 I don't know, but that sounds kind of nice. Yeah, 1:34:56.520 --> 1:34:59.439 the new song is one for sure? You are you 1:34:59.479 --> 1:35:02.600 happy to play the new song? Mmm? I would love to. 1:35:02.760 --> 1:35:05.800 There are some interesting iterations. People type really quickly in 1:35:05.880 --> 1:35:07.960 comments because they want to get what they're saying across 1:35:08.000 --> 1:35:10.800 really quickly, So there's some interesting iterations. Of like there 1:35:10.800 --> 1:35:13.519 were a couple that were just death. I'm assuming that 1:35:13.600 --> 1:35:18.120 meant death of me. We're going to take something drasticum. 1:35:18.560 --> 1:35:21.520 They're like, Alex, get off the stream. We hate you 1:35:21.560 --> 1:35:25.400 no more likely to one of us. They've overheard us 1:35:25.479 --> 1:35:28.639 now and they're done. Yeah, no, okay, Well then okay, 1:35:28.680 --> 1:35:30.599 I'll do that. I'll do death of me. And this 1:35:30.680 --> 1:35:32.919 is not This isn't a sad song. This is honestly, 1:35:33.439 --> 1:35:36.080 I genuinely think that this is my favorite song I've 1:35:36.080 --> 1:35:39.680 ever written, only second to Parakeets, which just recently came 1:35:39.680 --> 1:35:42.800 out last year. Definitely go and check out Parakeets, by 1:35:42.800 --> 1:35:45.360 the way, it's beautiful. Thanks buddy. Yeah, I really love 1:35:45.400 --> 1:35:46.880 that song, But this is kind of I don't know. 1:35:47.000 --> 1:35:49.200 This song is very special to me. It means a lot, 1:35:49.240 --> 1:36:07.519 and I hope that you guys like it. You commit 1:36:07.640 --> 1:36:12.600 deep with your eyes when we speak about nothing in particular. 1:36:12.880 --> 1:36:17.760 It's amazing, killing me quick with a look that you give. 1:36:18.240 --> 1:36:22.519 I'm calling it quits at the end the party. You 1:36:22.880 --> 1:36:26.960 who got me on my knees. I don't believe in 1:36:27.040 --> 1:36:29.920 any God, but I can keep you in my prayers tonight. 1:36:30.400 --> 1:36:35.400 You who everything I need, who needs help when I 1:36:35.439 --> 1:36:39.160 got it every time I got your hand in mind. God, 1:36:39.200 --> 1:36:43.639 this feeling about you, who they being without you would 1:36:43.640 --> 1:36:48.280 be the death of me. God, this feeling about you, 1:36:48.439 --> 1:36:52.360 who they being without you would be the death of me? 1:36:53.000 --> 1:37:03.800 And I over my got this feeling about you, the 1:37:04.040 --> 1:37:09.320 being without you be the death of me. You give 1:37:09.439 --> 1:37:14.000 me high on your analysts supply of the Subchius got 1:37:14.080 --> 1:37:19.240 touched my skin, and I'm you who got me on 1:37:19.360 --> 1:37:22.240 my knees. I don't believe in any God, but I 1:37:22.280 --> 1:37:26.960 can keep you in my prayst tonight. You boooo everything 1:37:27.040 --> 1:37:30.360 I need? Who needs heaving? When I got it every 1:37:30.400 --> 1:37:33.719 time I got your hand in mind, got this feeling 1:37:33.880 --> 1:37:38.600 about you, they being without you be the death of me. 1:37:40.400 --> 1:37:45.000 Got this feeling about you, the being without you will 1:37:45.080 --> 1:37:51.840 be the death for me, and I over my head, 1:37:53.400 --> 1:37:59.160 my head, got this feeling about you, that being methought 1:37:59.320 --> 1:38:06.759 you would be the death of me. Something along those lines. WHOA, 1:38:08.560 --> 1:38:15.160 oh my gosh, Alex, that was beautiful, unbelievable. I'm glad 1:38:15.160 --> 1:38:18.960 we went with me too. I really like that song. 1:38:19.200 --> 1:38:22.840 It's yeah, that's a really beautiful song. It's so beautiful. 1:38:22.960 --> 1:38:26.560 I just I just think you're great, and I don't know. 1:38:26.640 --> 1:38:29.960 It's great. There's there's something amazing about seeing your friend 1:38:29.960 --> 1:38:33.040 and somebody really care about doing something amazing and doing 1:38:33.080 --> 1:38:35.960 what they love, and it's it's just well, that's how 1:38:36.000 --> 1:38:38.000 I feel about you guys. Honestly. I get to watch 1:38:38.040 --> 1:38:40.320 you guys do what you love anytime I want on 1:38:40.360 --> 1:38:44.920 Netflix currently, So yeah, yeah, yeah, Kat, You're also on 1:38:46.120 --> 1:38:52.280 CW right, yes, yea yeah, Walker Independence. We just finished 1:38:52.320 --> 1:38:59.200 our first season, just finished airing, soiting, exciting. It's by 1:38:59.240 --> 1:39:01.080 the way, no idea. We can talk about this later 1:39:01.200 --> 1:39:04.759 before it's just about to give away so much industry 1:39:04.760 --> 1:39:06.160 ship and I'm like, wait, no, no, no no, no, no 1:39:06.160 --> 1:39:08.280 no no no no no no no no, we should 1:39:08.280 --> 1:39:14.479 do we can't cut things out. Is I don't know 1:39:14.600 --> 1:39:17.439 any information. I don't know anything new, genuinely, it sounds 1:39:17.479 --> 1:39:20.599 like I'm backtracking now, which I am a little but 1:39:21.240 --> 1:39:24.720 an information. It's more just like we know how the 1:39:24.720 --> 1:39:28.280 industry has worked this year, and we have sort of assumptions. 1:39:28.320 --> 1:39:31.160 We have assumptions based on how the industry has been 1:39:31.320 --> 1:39:37.599 flowing this year. Predictions are assumptions, predictions, fictions, predictions and assumptions. Indeed, 1:39:37.760 --> 1:39:43.400 now I have a question for you because we get Tom, 1:39:43.439 --> 1:39:47.120 I've asked so enough questions tonight, I'm gonna do you 1:39:47.160 --> 1:39:49.439 really bother that she was asking you one more question? 1:39:50.439 --> 1:39:53.160 My god, Oh dam I have like twenty thousand more 1:39:53.280 --> 1:39:55.840 questions for you. So just you, just you and my 1:39:55.920 --> 1:39:59.800 mom and Decay can get together and try and figure 1:39:59.800 --> 1:40:01.960 me out out. I would love to get together with 1:40:02.000 --> 1:40:04.519 your mom anytime. I think she's brilliant. I love getting 1:40:04.520 --> 1:40:07.439 together with your mom. I'm gonna punch you in your mouth. 1:40:09.200 --> 1:40:11.120 She said a nice thing, and you made it such 1:40:11.120 --> 1:40:19.280 a horrible brotherly thing to say. Anyway, Kinsey, do you 1:40:19.360 --> 1:40:21.519 have any advice because Tom and I get asked all 1:40:21.560 --> 1:40:24.559 the time for advice for people coming into the industry, 1:40:24.560 --> 1:40:27.120 and but from your perspective, do you have any advice 1:40:27.479 --> 1:40:29.640 for anyone listening who wants to pursue music as a 1:40:29.680 --> 1:40:34.120 career or songwriting or composing or anything of the like. Yeah, 1:40:34.200 --> 1:40:37.360 I do. I think that this is going to probably 1:40:37.360 --> 1:40:40.680 be not the most uplifting thing that you've heard initially, 1:40:40.880 --> 1:40:45.680 but be prepared to, like not always be stoked. And 1:40:45.720 --> 1:40:48.080 then every once in a while you get something incredible 1:40:48.080 --> 1:40:50.080 that happens and it makes up for all that, and 1:40:50.120 --> 1:40:52.800 that's really what you live for. But like people I 1:40:52.840 --> 1:40:55.479 think moved to LA and get into acting and getting 1:40:55.520 --> 1:40:58.200 to singing and songwriting and all that stuff, expecting it 1:40:58.240 --> 1:41:01.040 to just be like the most fun thing all the time. 1:41:01.360 --> 1:41:03.040 And let me be the first person to tell you 1:41:03.360 --> 1:41:05.760 that it can be. It can be the most fun 1:41:05.840 --> 1:41:08.439 thing all of the time. But sometimes it just isn't. 1:41:08.760 --> 1:41:11.519 Sometimes it is a job. Sometimes it's something that like hurts, 1:41:11.560 --> 1:41:16.160 and sometimes it's something that is incredibly elating, and it's 1:41:16.200 --> 1:41:19.719 just like this insane, beautiful moment, and sometimes it's this awful, 1:41:19.800 --> 1:41:21.599 terrible moment, and you just have to be okay with 1:41:21.640 --> 1:41:25.920 those without going like I think I'm done, you know, 1:41:26.280 --> 1:41:29.920 like that's that's my most that's my actual, like real life. 1:41:29.960 --> 1:41:32.320 If I meet you on the street and I'm not 1:41:32.360 --> 1:41:37.320 on camera, advice this next bit, I'm not laughing you, sorry. 1:41:37.360 --> 1:41:39.719 I just read one of the comments then it made 1:41:39.720 --> 1:41:43.440 mean chuckle. It says it says Alex is funnier than Dominum. 1:41:43.640 --> 1:41:51.960 Doesn't like it. Kelly Kaylin kaylin ka kay I think Kaylyn, 1:41:52.120 --> 1:41:56.360 I got through twenty buckets after this. Don't you worry yet? 1:41:56.640 --> 1:41:59.280 That actually is my mom. That's actually my mom who 1:41:59.320 --> 1:42:03.599 posted that she was watching saying a thing. But yeah, 1:42:04.080 --> 1:42:08.840 that's that's I'm she knows what's but so then my 1:42:08.920 --> 1:42:11.160 other good advice. I think that this is like happy advice, 1:42:11.160 --> 1:42:12.479 because I don't want to let end it on a 1:42:12.520 --> 1:42:14.800 sad note after a song called Death of Me. I 1:42:14.840 --> 1:42:17.599 want to also say that as long as you do 1:42:18.040 --> 1:42:21.920 the thing in your craft that makes you the happiest, 1:42:21.960 --> 1:42:24.760 as long as you're constantly creating because you have to, 1:42:24.920 --> 1:42:27.479 because you love it, because there's no other option for you, 1:42:27.520 --> 1:42:30.479 because the only way to express the things that are 1:42:30.760 --> 1:42:33.320 destroying your insides is to get them out of you, 1:42:33.920 --> 1:42:37.000 then you're on the right path. Do that every time always. 1:42:38.000 --> 1:42:40.559 That's my happy advice is stick to your gut, stick 1:42:40.560 --> 1:42:42.840 with your heart, and make whatever it is that you 1:42:42.960 --> 1:42:48.080 need to create to get it out. Yeah. That's agree 1:42:48.439 --> 1:42:53.839 very much, say absolutely. I second that wholeheartedly. Yeah, well, gentlemen, 1:42:53.880 --> 1:42:56.400 should we play one more game before we go? Yeah? 1:42:56.960 --> 1:43:00.000 I haven't gotten to play anything play a game with us, 1:43:00.200 --> 1:43:03.920 So I I love this game and I thought this 1:43:03.960 --> 1:43:05.479 was a great idea. We sort of have died this 1:43:05.520 --> 1:43:07.479 on the show one day, and I think it would 1:43:07.479 --> 1:43:11.599 be fun to continue. So you're familiar with the concept 1:43:11.600 --> 1:43:14.160 of parabetide. There are two brothers in arms who are 1:43:14.200 --> 1:43:18.160 bonded together on a on an emotional, physical, metaphysical level, 1:43:18.640 --> 1:43:22.000 who go forth and kind of amplify each other's powers. Um, 1:43:22.040 --> 1:43:24.280 you've got a couple of examples immediately after. By the way, 1:43:24.280 --> 1:43:27.040 I really am very appreciative. You didn't get an opportunity 1:43:27.080 --> 1:43:30.559 to go right. She knew, she goes. You are familiar 1:43:30.600 --> 1:43:34.879 with parabetites obviously this Yeah, yes, of course. So Batman 1:43:34.920 --> 1:43:37.479 and Robin is an example. Or you know betaf Like 1:43:37.640 --> 1:43:40.400 and Matt Damon would be another example. Or you know 1:43:40.439 --> 1:43:43.320 two people at Mario and Luigi, Shrek and Donkey. All 1:43:43.360 --> 1:43:47.320 these examples of folks that work really well. That's so unfair. 1:43:47.680 --> 1:43:53.960 This is a cheat sheet capes on the chee. I 1:43:53.960 --> 1:43:57.519 didn't I have it too. Sorry I didn't list all 1:43:57.560 --> 1:44:02.040 of them. I left a coup there's two more is 1:44:02.080 --> 1:44:06.040 one I don't agree with. Okay, but you're smart enough 1:44:06.160 --> 1:44:08.960 you can come up with your own I believe in you. 1:44:09.520 --> 1:44:13.000 I'm trying. I'm doing the best. Someone said dom and Alberto, 1:44:13.080 --> 1:44:17.080 and that's really cute. There you go. See. I would 1:44:17.080 --> 1:44:19.800 say I would say I should read the books. I 1:44:19.840 --> 1:44:22.280 should read you know Gus, Gus and Jacques, the two 1:44:22.280 --> 1:44:25.439 little mice from Cinderella the animated movie. They get along 1:44:25.479 --> 1:44:28.120 and they work well together and amplified and empowers world. 1:44:28.479 --> 1:44:32.360 In no world would I have picked that. So they 1:44:32.400 --> 1:44:35.519 have to amplify each other. I like about you. You 1:44:35.520 --> 1:44:38.559 have to make each other better. You have to explore 1:44:38.600 --> 1:44:41.559 and like, yeah, wait, what's the game? I'm thinking about things. 1:44:41.600 --> 1:44:43.240 I don't even know what the rules are yet, ye, 1:44:44.000 --> 1:44:47.719 any things in the real world, or like two fancasty characters, 1:44:47.840 --> 1:44:52.720 or like peanut butter banana, perfect example, peanut butter and 1:44:52.800 --> 1:44:54.479 jelly is a good one. Peanut butter and banana. I 1:44:54.520 --> 1:44:57.200 don't know if I agree. Well, then I think that 1:44:57.240 --> 1:45:00.360 I'm going to go. Now, Abby and Katie has come 1:45:00.439 --> 1:45:06.120 up a lot, and what does that mean? No, this 1:45:06.160 --> 1:45:10.000 is this is Walker independence so my character, and there's 1:45:10.040 --> 1:45:13.599 a there's a woman on the show who's Kate, and 1:45:14.280 --> 1:45:18.479 their their partners in crime, and you know it. Yeah, Laura, 1:45:18.600 --> 1:45:21.280 thank you very much for putting Abby Walker and Kate 1:45:21.960 --> 1:45:24.519 just after I said that, too fucking late, already made 1:45:24.560 --> 1:45:27.439 a fool of myself. It's too late, already happened. It 1:45:27.560 --> 1:45:29.640 was also I appreciate Dom and Dan has come up 1:45:29.680 --> 1:45:34.840 a lot which is very sweet. Yeah, that's Simon. Pumba 1:45:34.880 --> 1:45:39.040 is a great one. Such a good one, Simon and 1:45:39.120 --> 1:45:43.679 Raphael pretty good. Yeah, put nutella and banana. Oh my god, 1:45:43.680 --> 1:45:46.400 did you stella? Did you see me say new teller? 1:45:46.479 --> 1:45:48.640 Have you? And I had this teller? Like an American? 1:45:48.880 --> 1:45:54.679 Did you say? Yeah? I said nutella? Yeah, like an American? 1:45:54.760 --> 1:46:00.280 They say metella? Who tell everyone else Americans say tella? 1:46:00.640 --> 1:46:05.000 I say ntella? Never? Never, one time in my entire 1:46:05.040 --> 1:46:07.519 life have I made a U and O this is 1:46:07.560 --> 1:46:10.599 why we never I've never done that that. It doesn't 1:46:10.640 --> 1:46:12.759 make any sense. And I'll tell you for why. Because 1:46:12.800 --> 1:46:18.800 it's a nut based spread. Ah, that makes a good explanation. 1:46:19.880 --> 1:46:24.880 It's not a new face bread photo. And Sam Stephen 1:46:25.000 --> 1:46:28.679 Lucky is a great one. Stephen Bucky is a good one. 1:46:28.880 --> 1:46:34.360 That one actually, Oh, Steve Rogers and Bucky Yeah, what 1:46:34.439 --> 1:46:36.960 was that one? Did you get? Ben? And Ella? I 1:46:37.000 --> 1:46:42.280 liked and Ella like? Nutella's pretty good? And and Deck 1:46:42.360 --> 1:46:44.360 we've got some British guys in here, and and Deck 1:46:44.880 --> 1:46:48.080 appreciate you guys. Yeah, you guys won't know what that is. 1:46:48.120 --> 1:46:49.840 But their talk show hosts over here that have been 1:46:49.840 --> 1:46:53.439 doing it since. I was like, they be like the 1:46:53.560 --> 1:46:57.200 two Han and Chewy sort of, Han and Cheese is 1:46:57.200 --> 1:47:00.720 the game one that's from the chat. That's not me 1:47:01.080 --> 1:47:07.120 pretty much. Notice Sonia and Harriet, thanks for saying that. 1:47:07.120 --> 1:47:09.720 That's a Maze Runner thing. That's me and Um. I 1:47:09.760 --> 1:47:12.200 don't know if you know, Natalie Emmanuel. Our characters were 1:47:12.200 --> 1:47:14.920 like together in the maze and we were the only survivors. 1:47:14.920 --> 1:47:20.200 And it's a that's yes. I like Kermit and Fozzy. 1:47:20.280 --> 1:47:23.560 That one makes me feel. I like people get and 1:47:23.600 --> 1:47:29.160 they write the first one and then and and then nothing. Listen, 1:47:29.520 --> 1:47:35.160 shit fuck Um. I like Ben and Jerry, by the way, 1:47:35.240 --> 1:47:38.880 that's I second Ben and Jerry. Tom and Jerry's pretty 1:47:38.920 --> 1:47:41.759 good as well, tom Ry. What about Judy and Bird 1:47:42.200 --> 1:47:46.639 Cat and puns Judy and Bird You guys don't watch 1:47:46.680 --> 1:47:54.920 Judge Judy. Oh no, Merlin and Arthur. That's a good one. Wood, Buzz, 1:47:55.360 --> 1:48:01.040 Wood and Buzz. They are Dan and Raja. Okay, I 1:48:01.120 --> 1:48:03.400 have to call it quits on Dan and Raja. They 1:48:03.400 --> 1:48:06.519 are not parabatized. I've just learned what a parabatize and 1:48:06.600 --> 1:48:12.600 Dan and Raja are not that this puzz Oh my gosh, 1:48:12.000 --> 1:48:14.560 I'm sure they move. I'm so sure they move. I 1:48:14.600 --> 1:48:16.200 don't know if anyone can hear me because the microphones 1:48:16.200 --> 1:48:22.240 too far away. But I'm so sure they move. I 1:48:22.320 --> 1:48:25.479 knew that at least Pinky and Brain. Romeo and Juliet. 1:48:25.600 --> 1:48:27.679 Someone just put Romeo and Juliet. Now we're just listing 1:48:27.720 --> 1:48:29.759 pairs of people. Let me tell you about a question. 1:48:29.840 --> 1:48:33.080 But see, they can't they catch romantically? Yes, I have 1:48:33.439 --> 1:48:41.160 Can it be three people? No? Yeah, I don't think yes. 1:48:41.760 --> 1:48:45.800 Why I don't think it's just the rules. Well, because 1:48:45.800 --> 1:48:49.280 he's making the rules the clave, and they're very just 1:48:49.280 --> 1:48:52.120 said Mason Pollard, which is my character in a race. 1:48:52.360 --> 1:48:59.240 But then with no one man just and Scooby such 1:48:59.280 --> 1:49:02.880 a good one. Um. Yeah, and they also can't be 1:49:03.000 --> 1:49:06.439 romantically involved, because that's good. Well. But also, if we 1:49:06.439 --> 1:49:08.280 want to talk about people who make each other stronger, 1:49:08.400 --> 1:49:10.320 Romeo and Juliet, let's talk about Romeo and Juliet for 1:49:10.360 --> 1:49:13.599 a second. Romeo and Juliet was Jeff Murphy in itself. 1:49:13.640 --> 1:49:17.040 That's pretty funny. Um. Romeo and Juliet is heralded as 1:49:17.080 --> 1:49:18.960 maybe one of the greatest love stories of all time. 1:49:19.240 --> 1:49:22.480 The truth is Romeo and Juliet is about two underage 1:49:22.520 --> 1:49:28.160 people three days and caused the death of six people. Yeah, 1:49:28.200 --> 1:49:30.479 that's Romeo and ju Yeah they did emply to the powers. 1:49:30.760 --> 1:49:35.600 I like C three PO and R time anyone. I 1:49:36.240 --> 1:49:40.880 can't pay attention. It's so crazy one I just my 1:49:40.920 --> 1:49:44.280 brain goes, I'm gonna buy you. I'm gonna buy you 1:49:44.640 --> 1:49:51.360 the four works, the complete works. Fine, the folio that 1:49:51.720 --> 1:49:54.040 I'm going to read it to you with a Floridian 1:49:54.080 --> 1:49:57.519 translation as well. Oh okay, now we're talking. And then 1:49:57.520 --> 1:50:00.599 the gator came on out of the swamp and stared 1:50:00.680 --> 1:50:02.240 himself in the heart right at the very even So 1:50:02.320 --> 1:50:04.960 did you know this is interesting? You know? So there 1:50:05.000 --> 1:50:09.240 would be no then this happened. Then whatever Shakespeare won't 1:50:09.439 --> 1:50:20.240 won't Shakespeare? Shakespeare wo Shakespeare every time Shakespeare. Shakespeare wrote 1:50:21.840 --> 1:50:25.040 direction in all of his place ever one stage direction. 1:50:25.120 --> 1:50:29.080 Everything else is dialogue. And what was it? Do you 1:50:29.120 --> 1:50:31.280 want to know? It's mental? Do you want to know? Yeah, 1:50:31.880 --> 1:50:35.680 I know what it is, and it is mentally. Go on, 1:50:36.760 --> 1:50:39.519 I'll be very impressed if you get it. Isn't it 1:50:39.560 --> 1:50:43.559 excits pursued by bear. It's excellent pursued by bear. But 1:50:43.680 --> 1:50:47.040 so close? Yes, correct, it's excellent. You could have given 1:50:47.040 --> 1:50:53.120 her that. No, like like you could have given her that. No, 1:50:53.360 --> 1:50:57.679 dam doesn't give me anything that's true, anything for any 1:50:57.680 --> 1:51:02.080 of us. Do you just call me John's been ten years, 1:51:02.080 --> 1:51:05.439 we've been friends, John. I said it like I said, John, 1:51:06.280 --> 1:51:13.400 like tube that John letters, that's so fast. Just wrong, 1:51:13.479 --> 1:51:17.200 that's just fully wrong. We got on this show for 1:51:17.280 --> 1:51:24.519 Alex and Alana. That's all. That's very sweet together. Christian 1:51:24.640 --> 1:51:28.479 and Rose from Vampire Academy. I don't know what movie 1:51:28.520 --> 1:51:34.080 you watched. I don't think so. I disagree fervently. Christian 1:51:34.320 --> 1:51:37.960 and Lissa. I get that. Christian and Rose probably not 1:51:38.000 --> 1:51:41.080 so much. Somebody said Christian and Fire, which I thought 1:51:41.240 --> 1:51:44.800 was My fashion has been to quote Hamlet, Act three, 1:51:44.920 --> 1:51:49.840 scene three, line eighty seven. No, I'm gonna start texting people. 1:51:50.680 --> 1:51:55.439 That's pretty that's really fun. It's pretty good. Yeah, oh yeah, 1:51:55.439 --> 1:52:01.840 oh man, for sure. Well, folks, this has been so fun. 1:52:02.360 --> 1:52:06.080 Is there anything else we want to do? This this 1:52:06.120 --> 1:52:10.120 has been Is there anything else we'd like to do 1:52:10.520 --> 1:52:13.479 or discuss, or talk about or say before we wrap 1:52:13.560 --> 1:52:15.800 up the seve I think we should say thank you. 1:52:16.439 --> 1:52:18.240 I think you're right. I think collectively we should say 1:52:18.280 --> 1:52:21.080 thank you to each other. We've been on this journey together. 1:52:21.880 --> 1:52:25.479 Thank you Kinsey a love Cap, my co host, my 1:52:25.560 --> 1:52:28.800 co producer, to our fellow producers, thank you for being 1:52:28.800 --> 1:52:30.760 with us on this. Like we said, we've been doing 1:52:30.760 --> 1:52:34.679 this for almost, if not just over a year. Yeah, 1:52:34.920 --> 1:52:36.880 and it's been a real pleasure. It's been a real 1:52:36.920 --> 1:52:40.280 pleasure to revisit something that was such a defining moment 1:52:40.280 --> 1:52:42.559 in my life, and it has been a real pleasure 1:52:42.600 --> 1:52:44.479 to share that with so many people who care about 1:52:44.479 --> 1:52:47.160 it as well. So thank you to all of you, 1:52:47.880 --> 1:52:50.320 and thank you to a moment. Thank you too, my 1:52:50.520 --> 1:52:53.920 heart to Propagate, to everyone who made this possible, and 1:52:54.040 --> 1:52:56.400 all of you for joining us. It's it's been such 1:52:56.400 --> 1:53:01.400 a lovely journey and we so appreciate love and the questions, 1:53:01.560 --> 1:53:04.160 and uh, we're gonna keep doing it if you'll have us. 1:53:05.240 --> 1:53:11.839 I'm just happy to be here. Okay, Can I propose 1:53:11.960 --> 1:53:16.160 something I would love to do? You can't propose. You 1:53:16.160 --> 1:53:19.759 can't propose over zoom. No, you can't propose over zoom. 1:53:19.800 --> 1:53:24.040 I tried it with Nell. It's not how it happens. 1:53:24.200 --> 1:53:29.439 I keep posting. Yeah, it's like I'm on like time twelve. Yeah, 1:53:30.280 --> 1:53:32.960 I like texted. She was like, nah, I texted I 1:53:33.040 --> 1:53:35.840 wanted to just the ring emoji and a question marks. 1:53:37.800 --> 1:53:40.320 She's like, no, no, but I would I would like 1:53:40.360 --> 1:53:43.600 to suggest. Yeah, I'd like to suggest something. If you 1:53:43.640 --> 1:53:45.880 two are open to it, please, I think it would 1:53:45.880 --> 1:53:47.960 be fun one of these days for us to pick 1:53:48.000 --> 1:53:52.040 an episode or a compilation of best up clips of 1:53:52.080 --> 1:53:55.639 a few episodes and bring you kinsey on to watch 1:53:55.680 --> 1:53:59.080 it and do a someone who's not involved and hasn't 1:53:59.120 --> 1:54:02.360 seen every episode doesn't one hundred percent of the world commentary, 1:54:04.560 --> 1:54:10.160 Oh shit, I have a secondary proposal, not proposal, because 1:54:10.160 --> 1:54:12.920 weren't allowed to do that's a secondary suggestion. Why don't 1:54:12.920 --> 1:54:17.040 we also do the bloopers? Yes, that's how you get 1:54:17.040 --> 1:54:20.040 to figure out like real like in my opinion, that's 1:54:20.040 --> 1:54:24.000 always how you figure out like that person, like that 1:54:24.040 --> 1:54:25.920 person's good fun or like oh that person had a 1:54:25.960 --> 1:54:27.680 real tough day, or what you can really see, like 1:54:27.920 --> 1:54:29.599 you know, like you want it seem like you want 1:54:29.600 --> 1:54:34.240 to expose somebody, like like I'm in them so much 1:54:34.320 --> 1:54:37.280 from being like anymore who you don't like and it's me, 1:54:37.520 --> 1:54:40.800 like I'm always the one who's like breaking. Are there 1:54:40.840 --> 1:54:45.160 any sprinting? No? They cut all of those out. They 1:54:45.160 --> 1:54:47.800 actually took the reels and burnt them because of you. 1:54:48.000 --> 1:54:52.040 Thank God. Yeah, thank greates come out at some point, 1:54:52.160 --> 1:54:55.360 but not today. We've got nothing to leave. Something out 1:54:55.400 --> 1:55:03.440 there that's something to the imagination that said deathbed confession 1:55:03.680 --> 1:55:05.960 is like I have an SD card. It's buried six 1:55:06.000 --> 1:55:10.000 feet in the yard behind stepping stone number four. It's 1:55:10.960 --> 1:55:16.200 dom running. It's just slow mos of zoomed in Donmouth, Wally. 1:55:16.320 --> 1:55:20.920 That is the death of you right there. It's titled 1:55:20.920 --> 1:55:26.680 the Death of don Yeah. Oh man, gentlemen, this has 1:55:26.720 --> 1:55:29.120 been so wonderful. Thank you so much for making my 1:55:29.200 --> 1:55:33.200 evening just light up. Thank you guys. And it's only 1:55:33.240 --> 1:55:37.280 like three o'clock. This is great. We will reconvene fairly soon. 1:55:37.320 --> 1:55:38.680 I have to make a phone call after this and 1:55:38.680 --> 1:55:42.680 then we should. You know what I'm saying. I do, 1:55:43.040 --> 1:55:47.000 but I don't know that anyone else does. Dames. Video games. 1:55:47.040 --> 1:55:49.640 I'm hoping everyone got it was either video games or 1:55:49.720 --> 1:55:58.760 going We're gonna go milk our cows wrong, just incorrectly. 1:56:00.040 --> 1:56:04.920 We just got to guess all of the new it's 1:56:04.960 --> 1:56:13.280 we're new to new to moving to move as you 1:56:13.440 --> 1:56:24.760 milked so funny I'm into it now. I'm not going 1:56:24.800 --> 1:56:28.440 to play a cow. No. Well, if they were speaking English, 1:56:28.440 --> 1:56:32.280 you'd probably be a little more inclined, wouldn't you maybe, 1:56:32.320 --> 1:56:33.800 But I don't know. If I can be then it's 1:56:33.920 --> 1:56:38.280 very true. Greg, can you milk? He's like, yeah, cats 1:56:38.640 --> 1:56:46.880 of the things that have milked me. Yeah. Yeah. All right, 1:56:49.240 --> 1:56:55.720 it's enough. We're gonna go the podcast. I love you guys, 1:56:55.720 --> 1:56:58.920 Thank you so much for everything. Have a good evening. 1:57:05.680 --> 1:57:08.360 Return to the Shadows is hosted and an executive produced 1:57:08.360 --> 1:57:12.040 by Me, Katherine McNamara, and Dominic Sherwood. Our executive producer 1:57:12.160 --> 1:57:15.560 is Lingley. Our senior producers are Liz Hayes and Diego Tapia. 1:57:15.880 --> 1:57:18.680 Our producers are Hannah Harris and Kristin Vermillia, and our 1:57:18.720 --> 1:57:22.160 intern is Sam Katz. Original music by Alex Kinsey and 1:57:22.240 --> 1:57:39.040 performed by Alex Kinsey and Katherine McNamara.