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Speaker 1: is Thursday, July eighth year of our over twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: We're jam packed tonight. I'm back in Nashville. We have

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Speaker 1: these things. Darre Rosenthal is probably headed to Kentucky, so

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Speaker 1: We've got media day's announcements. How about Demetris Robertson, former

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Speaker 1: There are two kinds of college football fans out there.

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Speaker 1: One of you you just like any game if they're

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Speaker 1: Just what I mean when I say next, Nick Saban,

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Speaker 1: that includes fill in the blank the names you're saying

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Speaker 1: Twenty twenty one, as you know, has already been labeled

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Speaker 1: and P plus defense, but then they were one hundred

427
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Speaker 1: and eighteenth then tackle success rate, which essentially means this,

428
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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if you find where the freight train

429
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Speaker 1: is if you hop in front of and just get

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Speaker 1: run over. So there are a lot of things, a

431
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Speaker 1: little tweaks, I would call them, but things that are

432
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Speaker 1: needed in terms of execution and better tackling on the

433
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Speaker 1: defensive side. But then the other thing is just from

434
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Speaker 1: an overarching standpoint, I ask about USC for better or

435
00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,200
Speaker 1: for worse? Are we just gonna get a definitive answer

436
00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,679
Speaker 1: this year with them? Because that's what USC fans keep

437
00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:09,240
Speaker 1: talking about. I got a couple of buddies I talk

438
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Speaker 1: about this all the time. They're Southern Calfans, and they've

439
00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,040
Speaker 1: gotten into that Kevin Sumlin territory. Once upon a time

440
00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:16,640
Speaker 1: at A and M, they used to say the same thing,

441
00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:20,640
Speaker 1: and it was we're tired of floating in no man's lamb.

442
00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,679
Speaker 1: No man's land for an elite college football program is

443
00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:27,000
Speaker 1: eight or nine wins. It's not good enough for you.

444
00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,639
Speaker 1: You expect more, but it's certainly not bad enough. To

445
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Speaker 1: make a move and get a new staff in there.

446
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,040
Speaker 1: And so the last thing Southern Calfans want this year

447
00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,040
Speaker 1: is an eight or nine win season. They either want

448
00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:37,840
Speaker 1: to win the Pac twelve and be in the playoff

449
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:39,800
Speaker 1: or they want the bottom to fall out. So there

450
00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,000
Speaker 1: is absolutely no doubt what has to happen. So again,

451
00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:47,840
Speaker 1: whether we're talking Clemson or LSU, or Florida or Oklahoma, Georgia, USC,

452
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Speaker 1: if it is a storyline you need, I got about

453
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Speaker 1: ten of them. For every one of those programs, and again,

454
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Speaker 1: these are the mainstay, current modern day blue blood programs

455
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Speaker 1: in college football, and every single one of them you

456
00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,960
Speaker 1: get that little nervous scratch the next sort of feeling

457
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,520
Speaker 1: about because it listen, it could turn out great. Every

458
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Speaker 1: one of those teams I just mentioned. It could at

459
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Speaker 1: least contend for a playoff spot, I would say, but

460
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,600
Speaker 1: it could go sideways for him too. Really fun to watch.

461
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Speaker 1: That is one of many reasons we love this sport.

462
00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,680
Speaker 1: All right, let's move it on. It was a big day.

463
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Speaker 1: It's been a big month. I mean, I'm looking I'm

464
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Speaker 1: about to talk about him in a second. You know,

465
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Speaker 1: Penn State's had six commitments this month, and the eye,

466
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Speaker 1: Josh tells me it's only July eighth, so a long

467
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Speaker 1: way to go. We looked at the recruiting calendar, Colin,

468
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Speaker 1: here's your d cut. When we looked at the recruiting calendar,

469
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Speaker 1: and we looked at when the dead period was gonna end,

470
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Speaker 1: and we saw that a lot of official visits were

471
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Speaker 1: being lined up in June. Remember what we thought on

472
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Speaker 1: the show, and it's been validated, was there was going

473
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Speaker 1: to be a wave of official visits in June, and

474
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Speaker 1: then we thought the commitment wave would come in July

475
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Speaker 1: and August. Well, here we are in July, and sure enough,

476
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Speaker 1: we got one of those good old fashioned commitment waves

477
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Speaker 1: on our hands just today alone. Several big time commitments

478
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Speaker 1: earlier today, in the last few hours. Jeremiah Alexander, five

479
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Speaker 1: star linebacker out of Alabaster, Beautiful Alabaster, Alabama, the house

480
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Speaker 1: that they say Tim Watts built, Well, he committed to Alabama.

481
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Speaker 1: Not Tim Watts, that's Juco at best. But Jeremiah Alexander

482
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Speaker 1: does commit to Alabama. He de committed a little while ago.

483
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Speaker 1: The thing I take away from this, I'll get to

484
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Speaker 1: the player himself in a second, is there's this dichotomy,

485
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 1: and there's this huge gap between the way that fans

486
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Speaker 1: handle the commitments and the way coaching staffs handle the commitments.

487
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Speaker 1: And I think it has a lot more to do

488
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Speaker 1: with wisdom and long term perspective on things. Fans. It's

489
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Speaker 1: torch and pitchfork time when you get a de commitment.

490
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 1: Alexander was committed Tobama. He decommitted Carl Scott, I think

491
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Speaker 1: was his lead recruiter at the time. Now Freddy Roach

492
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Speaker 1: took over his recruitment, and you got a hat tip

493
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Speaker 1: Freddy Roach for this thing. And the entire Alabama staff

494
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 1: because they stayed on him, didn't pressure him. They understand

495
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Speaker 1: the long game. They play it there every year, and

496
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Speaker 1: so Jeremiah Alexander commits back to Alabamaday. Now my question

497
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 1: is the folks who go full torch and pitchfork mode.

498
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,159
Speaker 1: They disappear, they disappear, and they show up only to

499
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Speaker 1: question coaching decisions in the third quarter in the fall.

500
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Speaker 1: And I just wish that we could have a screenshot

501
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 1: function to where every statement that you've made you're at

502
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 1: least held to account for, not on Twitter, but maybe

503
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 1: on a message board. Let's say, because there was a

504
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:22,679
Speaker 1: lot of it. I remember there was a lot of it,

505
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 1: and so he recommits to Alabama. Physically, very advanced. He

506
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Speaker 1: plays at Thompson High School. Mark Freeman's got a team

507
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,120
Speaker 1: there right now that has multiple five star kids, both

508
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 1: from this class and the next class, and they got

509
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 1: a really good it's a really good program there at Thompson.

510
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 1: They've been pumping them out for a long time. But

511
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Speaker 1: I would expect Jeremiah Alexander along with ty Simpson, the

512
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Speaker 1: quarterback they already have committed at Alabama, those are two

513
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Speaker 1: guys that can kind of alpha their class. You always

514
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 1: have those sort of leaders amongst highly rated kids. Certain

515
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 1: leaders rise to the top, and Alexander's one of those guys.

516
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 1: Ty Simpson has been one of those guys at the

517
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Speaker 1: quarterback position, and that's how you like to see it

518
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 1: happen now. LSU just a few hours ago too, de

519
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 1: Mario Holand committed. That's a four star linebacker. Not from

520
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: end state though, So I want you to think about this.

521
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,679
Speaker 1: D R. Phillips is a high school down in the

522
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 1: Orlando area and that's where this young man currently attends.

523
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Speaker 1: I think he transferred there recently. This is a four

524
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Speaker 1: star linebacker. He's probably going to play eventually at around

525
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Speaker 1: two twenty five. He's got all the characteristics LSU wants

526
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Speaker 1: at the linebacker position. But Blake Baker was the lead

527
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Speaker 1: recruiter here. Most of you don't know that name. That's

528
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,920
Speaker 1: a former assistant Miami. He is now the linebacker's coach

529
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Speaker 1: at LSU. And this one stung a little bit if

530
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Speaker 1: you're a Miami Hurricane fan. They were none too pleased

531
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Speaker 1: at the fact that they felt Baker, with his fair

532
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 1: share in his time in Coral Gables, goes to Baton

533
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 1: Rouge and all of a sudden, he's just reaching into

534
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 1: Florida plucking kids out. And if you didn't already know it,

535
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,640
Speaker 1: Blake Baker himself'll let you know on Twitter a little

536
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 1: while ago he had that one teed up. He had

537
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 1: it ready to go. Like I said, I'm not mad

538
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 1: at him because I would have done the same thing

539
00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 1: or worse. LSU with thirteen commitments right now, that's the

540
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Speaker 1: number four class in the country, average player rating ninety

541
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Speaker 1: three point three to eight. That is among the very

542
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: best in America. LSU. What's most impressive right now for

543
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: the Tigers is you would think if you don't pay

544
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 1: attention to recruiting. That all this off the field noise

545
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 1: and the disaster that was twenty twenty, you would think, oh,

546
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 1: that must be a snowball of fiery damnation for their recruiting, right. Nope,

547
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 1: not at all. They keep rolling along. I don't know

548
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,439
Speaker 1: how it all ends, but I'll tell you there's a

549
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 1: lot of skill in quieting and easing those concerns when

550
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 1: you get into the living room and when you get

551
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 1: on zoom or Skype with a kid and you convince

552
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 1: him and mom and dad and coaches and mentors and whatnot,

553
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 1: this is the place for you. Because, like I said,

554
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,159
Speaker 1: that's not an instinct kid. They're competing nationally for guys,

555
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 1: and they're winning their fair share. Oregon is as impressive

556
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 1: a recruiting machine right now, all things considered as any

557
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 1: program in America this side of maybe like Tuscaloosa or Columbus.

558
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 1: But what Oregon's doing is you week even in and

559
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: of what the programs I just mentioned are doing, because

560
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 1: Oregon's doing it by necessity. You know, Alabama, they don't

561
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 1: have to recruit nationally. They choose to. Ohio State's kind

562
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 1: of the same. Oregon doesn't have that luxury, they have

563
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 1: to recruit nationally. They know it. So what did they

564
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 1: do this past week since we last spoke. All Oregon

565
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 1: did was march right into humble, Texas home of Kenny Kirschoffer,

566
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,360
Speaker 1: if you know, you know, and they took a five

567
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 1: star offensive tackle by the name of Kevin Banks out

568
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: of there. And I remember, not too long ago being

569
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: told and reading from several different sources that Texas felt

570
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,360
Speaker 1: really good about where they were. I saw Mike roach

571
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 1: over on Horns twenty four to seven talking about this

572
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 1: the other day. Texas felt really good about where they were,

573
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 1: which is why you can understand my surprise when I

574
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 1: see mister Banks commit to Oregon. That in and of

575
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 1: itself is big, a five star in state Texas product

576
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: all the local schools want. He chooses to take his

577
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: talents to the Pacific Northwest. But not only was that

578
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Speaker 1: the case, he said, it was Oregon and then Texas

579
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 1: a and m finishing number two. It's very early on

580
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: in the staff's tenure and regime at Texas. I get that,

581
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 1: but still a little bit of a tough pill to

582
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: swallow for Steve Sarkisan, A little bug in my throat

583
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 1: there Oregon is how do I want to say this?

584
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: All right, I'll just say it. Look, people are rubbed

585
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: the wrong way by Oregon right now because they're doing

586
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,959
Speaker 1: what people think they're not supposed to be able to do,

587
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: and that's recruited at national level, not taking backup options.

588
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,439
Speaker 1: They're coming into your backyard and they're taking your A

589
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: list options. Oregon is a threat anywhere they show up

590
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: in America right now, any high school, any state they

591
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,199
Speaker 1: walk into, they're a threat. They've got a brand that

592
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: sells across the country. They are very attractive, it's unique,

593
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 1: it's an established product at this point. It's a product

594
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: that's on the rise. It is universally viewed as a

595
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: program of tomorrow rather than let's say, a program of yesterday.

596
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,360
Speaker 1: Kids love the culture, kids love Mario Cristobul. They've got

597
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 1: a great staff up there. A lot of people think

598
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 1: they've only scratched the surface, and Nil is right in

599
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,439
Speaker 1: their wheelhouse. And so this is one of probably not

600
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: the last time that we're going to see a kid

601
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: of this caliber choose to leave a geographical region of

602
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: the country you normally don't see kids leave. And he's

603
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 1: going to do it. And he's going to go all

604
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 1: the way to Eugene, Oregon to play his college football.

605
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 1: So that was a really big deal. Oregon I think

606
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 1: top ten. I think they're number nine right now in

607
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 1: the overall team rankings. So keep an eye on the Ducks.

608
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: They're not done. There was a big running back on

609
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 1: I think this is around July fourth. Nicholas Singleton was

610
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 1: from Retting, PA. So he's an En State kid, four

611
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 1: star running back. He commits to Penn State. This is,

612
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: as I said, Penn State's sixth verbal commitment this month.

613
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: And it's really key because if you've watched Penn State,

614
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: you may see some areas of deficiency. Running back has

615
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: not been among them. They have hit and hit and

616
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 1: hit some more at the running back spot. And this

617
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: is a guy that some of our folks here at

618
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: twenty four to seven believe could eventually be rated the

619
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Speaker 1: top overall running back in the country ten and a

620
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: half yards per carry average right now in high school,

621
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Speaker 1: and if you watch him, it's not hard to understand

622
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 1: why a lot of people would say physically he's already

623
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: college ready. Rising senior in high school but already college ready.

624
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: But it's exciting because he's got the size and the speed.

625
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 1: You don't have to sacrifice one for the other. And

626
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: that is a guy again helpth assumed that continues that

627
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: lineage of big time tailback production that you get at

628
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: Penn State. So those are just some of the names.

629
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Speaker 1: There's also another name. I'm not going to go in

630
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: depth on him because he hasn't committed anywhere. CJ. Williams

631
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: is a recruitment to watch. I was talking to some

632
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: well some of our folks about him today. CJ. Williams.

633
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 1: There's a lot of Notre Dame smoke with him. This

634
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: is a high four star wide receiver out of I

635
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: think Modern day out in southern California, and Notre Dame

636
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: is trending big time. I saw Greg Biggins put a

637
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: crystal ball pick in level six I think for CJ.

638
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 1: Williams potentially to Notre Dame, and Notre Dame is number

639
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Speaker 1: three in the country as of this moment. When we

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Speaker 1: made the graphic, I told our folks down in Fort Lauderdale,

641
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: let's wait as late as possible to make this graphic

642
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: for tonight. Why Because I was scared someone was going

643
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: to commit thirty minutes before the show. So as of

644
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: this moment, could change by the end of the broadcast.

645
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: There are the twenty twenty two team recruiting rankings. You

646
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: notice Michigan just kind of sneaking around down there at

647
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: number ten, just no one talking about them a whole lot.

648
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: But we'll see. There's a lot obviously still to unfold here.

649
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: But I also it's not gonna happen this cycle, but

650
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: in future cycles. One of the things I've told you

651
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 1: I'm going to track is how many kids push their

652
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: announcement deeper in the cycle. It used to be the trend,

653
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: Now it's the current trend to get as much of

654
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: your class locked up in the summer as you can.

655
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 1: And I wonder, because it would benefit you in the

656
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 1: long run to grow your social media followings, which benefit

657
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: you in the nil game. I wonder how many kids

658
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: are going to push their commitment dates back further and

659
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: further to maximize the exposure, maximize the impressions, maximize the

660
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: headline push, maximize the follower count. That makes you squirm

661
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 1: if you are of a certain age or a certain mentality,

662
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: let's just say, and I understand it, but I do

663
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: think that may be a reality. Not this cycle, but

664
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Speaker 1: in coming cycles the end for recruiting today. Now. A

665
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, I made a statement about Ryan Day,

666
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: which I thought was common sense, but it got really

667
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: twisted and miscontextualized, so I wanted to revisit it tonight.

668
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: I wondered where Ohio State's head to the next five years,

669
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: and to me, I don't really wonder. I think I know,

670
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: but I said something the other day and it turned

671
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: into this heated debate on Twitter and Instagram. So I

672
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: wanted to bring it on the show because I talked

673
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: about it on the Extra podcast. But I wanted to

674
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Speaker 1: bring it on the show as promised. Here's what I said,

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00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: if Pate State had an opening at head coach, and

676
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: of course we can get whoever we want to because

677
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: we just roll like that. And I was making a

678
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: hire for the next five years. Notice next five years,

679
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: there are only two guys I'd have on the list.

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00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: One is Nick Saban and then the next one is

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Speaker 1: Ryan Day. And then I just cut off the list.

682
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Speaker 1: And my real point was to emphasize Ryan Day would

683
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Speaker 1: be next up right now behind Nick Saban for me. Obviously,

684
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: I got a lot of pushback on that. Half of

685
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: it was from people who didn't understand what I was saying.

686
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: They just thought I was power rating head coaches. And obviously,

687
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: if I were doing that, I wouldn't be listing Ryan

688
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: Day number two based on achievement. But we're not running

689
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: an awards banquet here. It's not a lifetime achievement award.

690
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: It's not a celebration of a career. If it was,

691
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: then Dabo Swinny would rightfully be parked in that number

692
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: two spot, behind only Nick Saban. That's not what we

693
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: were doing. I'm projecting forward here, so I'm going to

694
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,479
Speaker 1: ask you to do the same. Just play along with

695
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: me here, project forward next five years. It's not like

696
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: I'm disparaging one to prop up the other. Dabos Swinny

697
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: is a very competitive number three on this list for me,

698
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: just for the record, but I'd have Ryan Day above

699
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: all of them other than Nick Saban. The next five

700
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: years is what I'm focused on. I don't know how

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00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: you don't buy into Ryan Day's next five years. What

702
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: does he not have? Because everything, to me, he's a

703
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: B plus or betteran When it comes to the elements,

704
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: it takes characteristics, it takes to succeed at the highest

705
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: level an assassin as a recruiter, got a whole staff

706
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: of assassins as recruiters. Phenomenal development at Ohio State, the

707
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: ability to evolve, the ability to adapt. He understands the

708
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: formula for success. And I'll tell you what else. He

709
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: understands the formula for long term sustainable motivation. It doesn't

710
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: come out of preaching disrespect and using bulletin board material.

711
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: Case and point last year, going into that semi final

712
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: game when they played Clemson, and there was some of that,

713
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: some of that, yeah, have been coming from down near Clemson.

714
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: Ohio State. Not only did they steam roll them, they

715
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: had every reason after that to find the nearest live

716
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: microphone on that field and say everything they talked about

717
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: all week and all month and whatnot. That's what fueled us.

718
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: They never even mentioned them. They just talked about worrying

719
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: about ourselves. We focus on a process. It's all about

720
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: internal intrinsic this and that. Man. That's not coach speak.

721
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: That's a philosophy. That's sustainable too. When you don't rely

722
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: on anything else and you know the fuel sources inside

723
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: your own program and inside your players, and you can

724
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: get them to believe that that's elite leadership. It's hard

725
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: to do that. That's why so many people don't achieve it.

726
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: Ryan Day commands authority, never had a track record as

727
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: a head coach, and yet immediately day one, the moment

728
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: he's announced, he's got everyone's attention. I'll circle back to

729
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:12,720
Speaker 1: that in a second. Calls that in and of itself

730
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: is big. He's just elite in every aspect of leadership.

731
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: Ryan Day is elite. So I keep asking people who

732
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 1: I get pushed back on on this particular topic, especially

733
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: on I just ask what is it he lacks? And

734
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: you can point to the trophy case. I'm not a

735
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: believer that you always have to see it achieved before

736
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: you believe it's possible. I go back to the old

737
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: Roger Banister four minute mile thing. Roger Banister first got

738
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: to run a sub four minute mile. Was he incapable

739
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: of it till the moment that his chest broke the

740
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 1: tape at the finish line? Or was he capable of

741
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 1: it before and then the result happened. I believe Ryan Day,

742
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 1: an Ohio State under Ryan Day is capable of winning

743
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: multiple championships. I believe they're capably mean parked right at

744
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,240
Speaker 1: the top of the sport for a prolonged period of time.

745
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 1: I think they're capable of it now. I think he's

746
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: at that level now and it will come to fruition

747
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: in the future. If we're just doing that thing where

748
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,760
Speaker 1: we wait until it's accomplished to believe that someone's capable

749
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: of it, then what are we doing. A blind monkey

750
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 1: could operate this thing at this point. I saw Colin

751
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:19,439
Speaker 1: and I were talking about this. I will not mention

752
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 1: the outlet, but I saw someone put out a list

753
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 1: the other day top twenty head coaches in college football,

754
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: and this dude not on them. I counted four or

755
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 1: five Big Ten head coaches listed above Ryan Day. I'm

756
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: telling you right now, I didn't even waste time reading

757
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: what the criteria was, so forgive me if I'm misunderstanding it.

758
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: Any of you who want to endorse that ideology, decide

759
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: how much money it's going to take to make you uncomfortable,

760
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: and then we'll bet on it. You want to take

761
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 1: Fleck over Ryan Day. You want to take all due respect,

762
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: James Franklin's next five years over Ryan Day. Pick any

763
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 1: of them in the Big Ten. You want to take

764
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 1: their next five years over Ryan Day any amount that

765
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 1: it takes to make you uncomfortable, and if you can

766
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: outbid me, I'll go find investors because this is one

767
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 1: of the smartest bets and one of the safest investments

768
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 1: that anyone out there could make. This dude is lapping

769
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 1: the Big ten. I don't understand how anyone sees it

770
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,800
Speaker 1: any other way, but again that's between you and your diary.

771
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 1: But consider how amazing this process was. I think history

772
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 1: will accurately judge it. But since we're still in the present,

773
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: I don't think people properly understand and appreciate what just

774
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,959
Speaker 1: happened there over the last couple of years. You've got

775
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 1: one of the all time greats in Urban Meyer, who

776
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: is currently coaching an NFL team. You got one of

777
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: the all time greats there in Urban Meyer, and then

778
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:44,240
Speaker 1: he steps down, and they don't conduct what you expect

779
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: them to do, which is a national head coaching search.

780
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: They promote from within Ryan Day. Hardcore college football fans

781
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: knew who he was. If you're just a casual fan

782
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: who lives in Boulder, Colorado, you said, who Ohio State

783
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: announced who as hoomst as a head coach? Coach Ryan

784
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 1: Day and not only did that happen, they didn't hesitate.

785
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: That should be signal number one that guy's different. But

786
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: if that didn't convince you, then consider this. You know

787
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 1: how good that coaching staff is. Brian Hartline, you know

788
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 1: how good he is? You know how good Larry Johnson is?

789
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: You know how loaded that roster is. Do you know

790
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: how good their player personnel and development department is? Mickey Marriotti.

791
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: Guys like that. All of these guys could have their

792
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: choice of about ninety nine percent of equivalent jobs in America,

793
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: and none of them left. They looked universally inside that program,

794
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 1: looked at a guy who had never been a head

795
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: coach of day in his life, and collectively said, yeah,

796
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: we got no problem following this guy. We got no

797
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: problem blindly casting our lot with him. The secret is

798
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: it wasn't blind at all. If you've ever been around greatness,

799
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: you don't have to guess. If you've ever been around it,

800
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: it stands out. It stands out like a pumpkin in

801
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: a cherry orchard. You don't have to wonder, I wonder

802
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 1: if that guy's great. It emanates, You understand it immediately.

803
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: You can't believe it if you spend a day with it,

804
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: you go home and you tell your friends about it.

805
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: You will never guess who I hung out with today.

806
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,479
Speaker 1: You will never guess what this guy or this girl

807
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: is like. That's the way it is. There aren't many

808
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 1: of them out there. That's why they stand out like that.

809
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: Ryan Day's generational. He's just next level. I'm not telling

810
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 1: you he's overtaken Nick Saban tomorrow. I'm telling you outside

811
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 1: of Nick Saban, there is not a head coach that

812
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 1: I believe in more over the next five years than

813
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: Ryan Day. People with options when you're still unproven in

814
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 1: terms of result, and a bunch of people with options

815
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,280
Speaker 1: to go elsewhere, don't think a second about going elsewhere.

816
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: That should tell you all you need to know about

817
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,479
Speaker 1: what you have as the head coach at Ohio State.

818
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 1: They're set at quarterback for the next several years. They

819
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: are a destination for everyone, both players and coaches. Nil

820
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:50,879
Speaker 1: is going to be a gold mine for them. How

821
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: anyone looks at Ohio State and thinks anything other than

822
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 1: they're going to be right there every year, and Ryan

823
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,399
Speaker 1: Day is going to be right at the front as

824
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 1: they are right there every year. I don't get it.

825
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 1: I've asked people to explain it to me multiple times.

826
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: I don't get that. I don't need a feeling out process.

827
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: In other words, I don't need to see the trophy

828
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 1: case fill up before I know what he's capable of.

829
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: So I will gladly buy all the stock you want

830
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: to sell me if you got some in Ryan day.

831
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 1: The last thing I want to do is talk about

832
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: a new head coach, because there was a lot made

833
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: of the entire Auburn coaching search. You know what, Actually

834
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 1: we haven't spoken about that in a while, So let's

835
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 1: just let's take ourselves back to December. Remember there was

836
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: that whole mess down there at Auburn. Gus Malson's fired.

837
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: It's my opinion, in any other generation what he was

838
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: doing would be good enough, because you know, there were

839
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: times where you looked at those blind resume comparisons and

840
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: what he was doing was trending very comparable to a

841
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: guy they named the field after down there in Pat died.

842
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,879
Speaker 1: But it wasn't good enough because you are judged fair

843
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: or not against the backdrop of Nick Saban's Alabama in

844
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: today's college football, especially if you are Auburn and so

845
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: Gus Malson's out. I'm not here to relitigate that. But

846
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,879
Speaker 1: then it looks like Kevin Steele's going to get the job.

847
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: And then you got a bunch of other names that

848
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 1: are thrown in there, and Brian Harson was not among them,

849
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 1: and he comes out of left field. Literally, he's all

850
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 1: the way up in Boise. And so a guy who,

851
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,240
Speaker 1: as Brandon Marcelo wrote today on twenty four seven spports

852
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: dot com, a guy who's never lived east of the

853
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: Mississippi River, is all of a sudden the head coach

854
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,439
Speaker 1: at Auburn. So kind of the same way when Ryan

855
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,479
Speaker 1: Day was hired at Ohio State, a lot of people

856
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: looked at Auburn hiring Brian Harson and said, hoopst they

857
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: hired him as what coordinator? No, he's gonna be the

858
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: head coach there, the head coach. Why they couldn't do

859
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 1: better than that? Well, that was the initial impression. And

860
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 1: so I just want to a lot of you don't

861
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: understand Auburn because Auburn is a very unique place. So

862
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 1: if you've never been there, you don't really get it.

863
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 1: And they'll be quick to tell you that if you

864
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: haven't already heard that but they're right about it. It's

865
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,959
Speaker 1: a very special town. I grew up very close to it.

866
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: It's a unique culture. The game day atmosphere is second

867
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: to none. There's a spirit there. The people are very,

868
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: very proud, they're very invested. It's kind of in the

869
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 1: context of college football. It's got a very high school

870
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: football field to it, the way that once you get

871
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: inside that bubble, you understand it. But if you're not

872
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: inside that bubble, it makes no sense. So again, Marcelo

873
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: writes a piece over on twenty four seven sports dot

874
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: Com today that I would encourage you to go read

875
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,479
Speaker 1: because he spoke with Brian Harson. I mean, I remember

876
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: when he did this piece. He sat there in the

877
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 1: office with him, so he got a lot of really

878
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: good access to Brian Harrison. And Harson was very open

879
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,240
Speaker 1: about saying at the very beginning of this whole process

880
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: he didn't know a whole lot about Auburn, and over time,

881
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 1: Alan Green, the athletic director there, who he really let

882
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 1: him hang. Just to be honest with you, in this

883
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: whole process, Alan Green's a right guy for the job

884
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: at Auburn because he had some people kind of figuratively

885
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: try and shove him. But Alan Green's the wrong guy

886
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 1: to try and shove, and the wrong people tried to

887
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: shove him, and he just stood there kind of dead

888
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: panned him, and then they cowered, as those kinds of

889
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: people tend to do. And then you get the president

890
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 1: on your side, and you can go make your hire.

891
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: Instead of making a typical Auburn higher, they got to

892
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: make the right higher and they used the right process

893
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 1: to go the higher. So books will be written about

894
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: that one day. But now you've got Brian Harson on campus. Well,

895
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 1: here's the follow up question. How's he going to win

896
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: in the SEC? How's he gonna win at Auburn? What

897
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: does he know about Auburn? How's he going to assemble

898
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: a staff? How does he know how to recruit in

899
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: the Southeastern Conference. There are a couple of things I'm

900
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: sure of. Number One, I'm sure of the fact that

901
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: I think the Auburn job is the hardest in America.

902
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 1: Number Two, I think Brian Harrison doesn't really care about that.

903
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,439
Speaker 1: So both of those things can be true. But what's

904
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 1: the blueprint? That was the entire premise of this article

905
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: Marcelo wrote today, and the Boise State blueprint is what

906
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,720
Speaker 1: we're talking about. So the big question on the table

907
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: for Brian Harrison is will the Boise State blueprint work

908
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: at Auburn. The short answer from this kind of semi

909
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 1: informed person's opinion is yeah, I think it will. What

910
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 1: is the Boise State model though, Well, there are two

911
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: things you need to know about the Boise State model.

912
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: Number one, it's boring, and so number two, it is

913
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 1: absolutely what Auburn needs. It's boring because there's not this

914
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: one secret It doesn't really look cool and a bumper sticker.

915
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: There's no ultra proprietary scientific technology that goes into it.

916
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,959
Speaker 1: It won't win you any press conferences. You won't watch

917
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 1: SEC Media Days in two weeks and say what, Brian

918
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: Harson really won this thing. That's not how you win

919
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: football games to begin with. Though. What it will be

920
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:20,760
Speaker 1: is just mastering the mundane, the little boring everyday tasks

921
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 1: that you have to do as a normal person, or

922
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 1: you got to do as a left tackle if you're

923
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: playing for an SEC West power. You got to do

924
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: those every day at a certain standard in order to

925
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: achieve at a high standard. Now that sounds boring. That's

926
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,919
Speaker 1: why people don't get into it. It's why so many

927
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: people get fooled in the hiring process to going to

928
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 1: someone who promotes their system and who's all about the one, two,

929
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: and three, and we do these things and we'll be

930
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,439
Speaker 1: there in two years and it's all flash and it's

931
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: no substance. This is going to be boring when you

932
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: hear him talk about it, but then when you get results,

933
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: it's not boring anymore. You may ask, though, well, if

934
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,240
Speaker 1: it's that simple, if Brian Harson just needs to implement

935
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: this simple day to day's strategy to win at Auburn,

936
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: well how come everyone doesn't do that. Well. Exercise and

937
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,280
Speaker 1: proper diet is about all it takes to be in shape.

938
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 1: You see. One of the biggest epidemics in our society

939
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: is so it's one thing to be easy in theory.

940
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: It's a totally different thing to have not only the

941
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 1: individual discipline, but here's where it's really hard to be

942
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: a head coach the organizational discipline to implement it and

943
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: have people adhere to that when you're watching them and

944
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 1: when you're not watching them, Which brings me to really

945
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 1: the crux of this entire question at Auburn. It's not

946
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: whether Brian Harson gets it. It's not whether his model works.

947
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 1: Of course it works. Multiple guys have implemented it himself,

948
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: included at Boise. It's worked, so you don't have to

949
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: question whether the approach works. What you have to question

950
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 1: is whether he gets enough buy in from his roster,

951
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: from his coaching staff, from the entire organization at Auburn,

952
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: because that's the key, and there's a certain kind of

953
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 1: guy who can accomplish that, and they're few and far between,

954
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 1: and that's what Alan Green was looking for when he

955
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 1: went out to find his head coach. He wanted a

956
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 1: guy with a proven process, but then he wanted a

957
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: guy who was going to come in, in this case,

958
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 1: to totally unfamiliar territory and not let that shake him.

959
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 1: And he's gonna get in, roll up his sleeves, go

960
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: to work. Get you a staff that knows the back

961
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: roads and recruiting territories in the SEC at least to

962
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: start off with. But then you talk about your player.

963
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: Auburn's had a little recruiting run of their own right now,

964
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 1: but they haven't been flashy about it. It hadn't been

965
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: a bunch of five star guys committing to Auburn. But

966
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: what that staff will tell you is it's our guys. Now,

967
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: This is not me just baselessly spouting off propaganda for Auburn.

968
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: What I'm telling you is I'm giving you a fair

969
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: shake of how things are viewed at Auburn, and that

970
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 1: may be a little bit different than how they're viewed

971
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 1: outside of Auburn. What Auburn folks, that staff most importantly

972
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: is going to tell you right now if you were

973
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 1: to talk to him, is it don't really matter. Like,

974
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 1: we got our guys in here. We got guys that

975
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: we want. We got what we would call Auburn guys

976
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 1: in here, and so if we got them, then we

977
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: don't really care how many stars are next to their name.

978
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 1: All due respect, we don't really care necessarily who we

979
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: had to beat for this guy, who we had to

980
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 1: beat for that guy. What we know is we got

981
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 1: a development system in place. It's already tried and sure

982
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: it's proven, and so we don't have to worry about that.

983
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: We've got every step of this process laid out. What

984
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: we have to do is we have to get buy in.

985
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: But what you're gonna find what Brian Harson will find,

986
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 1: and he already knows it long before I say it is.

987
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 1: In this conference and in the division they play in,

988
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 1: there is a minimum baseline of talent that they're gonna

989
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,280
Speaker 1: have to have, even if every part of that process

990
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: is adhered to. Because of how good the teams you

991
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: play are, how talented they are, and how good at

992
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: developing a lot of those talented teams are too, you're

993
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: gonna have to have a certain baseline of talent. So

994
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: you can't. You can't Michigan State or Iowa State your

995
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,760
Speaker 1: way through the SEC and achieve at an SEC championship

996
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 1: caliber level. Let me put it that way. The theory works,

997
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: The principle works. The big question about this whole Boise

998
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,280
Speaker 1: State approach at Auburn is not will it work in theory?

999
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: Is do you get enough buy in? Collectively? Do you

1000
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 1: get enough buying? Because there's a lot of noise that

1001
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 1: sometimes you have to deal with when you get higher

1002
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,919
Speaker 1: caliber athletes, when you get a higher profile program, when

1003
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: the heat of the spotlight gets turned up a little bit,

1004
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 1: there's just a little more noise that you have to

1005
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 1: deal with sometimes, and there's a little more convincing you

1006
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 1: have to do sometimes that what you know works works.

1007
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,359
Speaker 1: You're convinced of it. They got to be convinced of it.

1008
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: That's the only question I have with Brian Harrison at Auburn.

1009
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: How quickly can he get full community and organization will

1010
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 1: buy him. If he gets that, there'll be a thorn

1011
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: in the side of the SEC for years to come.

1012
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 1: So we had a little glitch there. I think Colin

1013
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 1: made a diving stop in there and he saved the

1014
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: stream there for us. So I appreciate you being tuned in.

1015
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: Here's what I was saving for last. As some of

1016
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: you have noticed, a few of you very influentially, is

1017
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: that a word have noticed over the last couple of shows,

1018
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: I've put out a little chum in the water at

1019
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: the end of the show, and I've told you we

1020
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: don't have any sponsorship on the show. We could change that.

1021
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: It took a grand total of one or two times

1022
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 1: saying that for some really big fish to come. I'm

1023
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 1: right to the email inbox, actually, and so I say

1024
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: all that to say it's been a very good week

1025
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: for us. However, if you are in the ad sales world,

1026
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 1: you'll know what I'm about to say. And if you don't,

1027
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 1: don't worry. The show's almost over. If you got some

1028
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: Q three discretionary still left and you want to do

1029
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,280
Speaker 1: some business and you think it's the right fit, Josh

1030
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: pat sven zero six at gmail dot com. There's not

1031
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: a lot of room left, but there's still some room.

1032
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 1: So again, if it's the right fit, we'll make it happen.

1033
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 1: If it's not, we won't worry about it. But some

1034
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 1: opportunity is there, I'll just leave it at that. Our

1035
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: salary looks the same either way, but I would love

1036
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: to have partnerships if they are the right partnerships. And

1037
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: with that, we are done for tonight. It's good to

1038
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 1: be back in the studio for Direct Colin for our

1039
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 1: entire crew down in Fort Lauderdale. I'm Josh Pate. Have

1040
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: yourselves a great start to your weekend. We'll see your

1041
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,839
Speaker 1: right back. You receaved time Sunday night. Until then, God

1042
00:48:50,840 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 1: bless three TI