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Speaker 1: On today's episode of I didn't know. Maybe you didn't either.

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Speaker 1: I have a question, what was the first HBCU. I

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Speaker 1: didn't know.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you didn't. No, I didn't know.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I did. No, I didn't know.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you didn't.

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Speaker 1: No, I didn't know.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know. I didn't know.

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Speaker 1: If you said Cheney University in eighteen thirty seven, of

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Speaker 1: course you're correct. It was the Institute for Colored Youth,

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Speaker 1: the absolute first institution in the United States to provide

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Speaker 1: higher education specifically for African Americans her perspective. The University

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Speaker 1: of North Carolina that yat Will Hill was founded in

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Speaker 1: seventeen eighty nine, almost fifty years and although they didn't

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Speaker 1: start enrolling students until seventeen ninety five, forty two years,

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Speaker 1: is a mighty large head start.

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Speaker 2: See.

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Speaker 1: Cheney was founded by a Quaker, a white man, Richard Humphreys,

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Speaker 1: because he had the bread to do so, which is

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Speaker 1: why Wilberforce is very significant now, although it was founded

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Speaker 1: nineteen years after Cheney in eighteen fifty six.

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Speaker 2: Here's something that I didn't know. Maybe you didn't either.

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Speaker 1: Wilberforce University is in Wilberforest, Ohio, a town of about

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Speaker 1: twenty four hundred folks.

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Speaker 2: Area code there is four five three eight.

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Speaker 1: Four, and it was named after a white Englishman named

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Speaker 1: William Wilberforce, who was a notable leader of the movement

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Speaker 1: to abolished slavery over there in Britain. However, even though

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Speaker 1: Wilberforce was named after a white man, what makes Wilberforce

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Speaker 1: special is it was the first HBCU owned and operated

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Speaker 1: by black folks. The African Methodist Episcopal Church.

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Speaker 2: AMEME to be exact.

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Speaker 1: So Shangey was founded earlier and began as a vocational

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Speaker 1: and teacher training institute, whereas Wilberforce was the first HBCU

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Speaker 1: controlled by black folks with an emphasis on liberal arts education.

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Speaker 1: Both were very pivotal to the history of HBCUs. Now,

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Speaker 1: when you ask what's the last HBCU built, if you

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Speaker 1: said American Baptist College, you'd be correct. Here's something else

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Speaker 1: that I didn't know. Maybe you didn't either. It was

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Speaker 1: founded in nineteen twenty four as American Baptist Theological Seminary,

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Speaker 1: and it wasn't recognized as an HBCU by the US

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Speaker 1: Department of.

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Speaker 2: Education until twenty thirteen.

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Speaker 1: ABC is known as Holy Hell and was founded by

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Speaker 1: an unprecedented collaboration between the all black National Baptist Convention

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Speaker 1: USA and the all white Southern Baptist Convention. The goal

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Speaker 1: was to educate rural black clergy for leadership in their communities.

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Speaker 2: See ABC was pommited in the sixties. You'reing the civil

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Speaker 2: rights movement.

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Speaker 1: Stop See look, black boys wasn't growing up trying to

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Speaker 1: go to Yale or Stanford or No.

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Speaker 2: Look, black boys wanted to go to ABC and learn

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Speaker 2: how to preach.

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Speaker 1: How yes t They wanted to be like doctor King Shabauta.

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Speaker 1: And ABC got some very notable along too, for nol Lafayette,

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Speaker 1: who was Dan. You're the founder of the civil rights movement,

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Speaker 1: Congressman John Lewis active as ct Vivian and.

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Speaker 2: Civil rights leader James Belvil.

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Speaker 1: But when I asked you what was the last HBCU built,

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Speaker 1: you might have said UVI And that.

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Speaker 2: Would have been correct too, because it was.

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Speaker 1: Founded in nineteen sixty two, the University of the Virgin Islands.

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Speaker 2: I see it serves a.

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Speaker 1: Dual role of a land grant university and an HBCU

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Speaker 1: over in the Virgin Islands. Now, whereas all LGUs land

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Speaker 1: grant universities and HBCUs are both types.

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Speaker 2: Of land grant universities.

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Speaker 1: HBCUs are extremely underfunded compared to PWILGUS. But that's a

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Speaker 1: whole other conversation for a whole other episode.

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Speaker 2: This was just a little something that I didn't know.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you didn't either, about Cheney wilwerd Force, ABC and

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