WEBVTT - 7/1/25: DEPORT ELON? Trump GOES NUCLEAR Over ‘Big Beautiful Bill’

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<v Speaker 2>good morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Had a whole bunch of tech issues which I can

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<v Speaker 1>not do a full show for you, but I did

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<v Speaker 1>want to bring you some updates on the one Big

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<v Speaker 1>Beautiful Bill, and in particular on Trump and Elon back

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<v Speaker 1>at full blown war against each other. The very latest

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<v Speaker 1>of this morning is Trump is now floating deporting Elon Musk.

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<v Speaker 1>So he got asked about this by a reporter and

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<v Speaker 1>he said, I don't know. We'll have to take a

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<v Speaker 1>look about deporting him. We might have to put Doge

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<v Speaker 1>on Elon. You know what Doge is. Doge is the

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<v Speaker 1>monster that he might have to go back and eat Elon.

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<v Speaker 1>Ask further about Elon, he said he's upset that he

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<v Speaker 1>is losing the eed mandates, he can lose a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more than that. So that's the very latest this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>But this comes you guys know the backstory here. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>Elon is Trump's biggest supporter, comes in dogeous like this

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<v Speaker 1>tremendous disaster, completely unpopular, Elon himself becomes politically toxic, and

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<v Speaker 1>he starts aggressively criticizing Trump over this one Big Beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>Bill in particular, there were other things as well, In

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<v Speaker 1>particular the NASA guy that Elon wanted, Trump pulls him.

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<v Speaker 1>So Elon goes completely nuclear. He'll remember, he accused Trump

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<v Speaker 1>of being an Epstein pedophile, sort of walk that back.

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<v Speaker 1>Also said that Trump was going to destroy the economy

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<v Speaker 1>cause a recession. Also said that Elon himself was the

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<v Speaker 1>only reason that Trump won, which that was an interesting comment.

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<v Speaker 1>So after that all happened and Elon kind of walks

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<v Speaker 1>things back a little bit. He's been read relatively quiet.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he's gone back in on the one Big Beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>Bill and has been aggressively criticizing it. So he said this,

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<v Speaker 1>if this insane spending bill passes, the America Party movie

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<v Speaker 1>before the next day. So now Eland once again actively

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<v Speaker 1>threatening to create this third party. Now if he does it,

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<v Speaker 1>do I think it's going to be particularly impactful. No,

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<v Speaker 1>but you have to keep in mind when you have

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<v Speaker 1>this very evenly split fifty to fifty kind of a system.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have that party take even let's say, five

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<v Speaker 1>percent of the vote, this becomes a big problem for Republicans.

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<v Speaker 1>And Lord knows, Elon's got all money on the planet

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<v Speaker 1>to do whatever he wants with it. Which is interesting

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<v Speaker 1>as well, because Trump is threatening a primary challenge against

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas Massey looking for a candidate. By the way, the

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<v Speaker 1>cannon's so looking at our complete and total psychos. Not

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<v Speaker 1>that Thomas Massey and I are aligned, but at least

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<v Speaker 1>respect to the fact that he has some principles, is

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<v Speaker 1>willing to stand up for himself and his values.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump is funding a primary challenge against him.

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<v Speaker 1>Elon has now come in and said he is going

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<v Speaker 1>to back Thomas Massey in that site, so directly taking

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<v Speaker 1>on Trump in this one race that is becoming a

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<v Speaker 1>sort of a focal point. Trump has also hit back

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<v Speaker 1>at Elon. He said, Elon must knew long before he's

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<v Speaker 1>so struggling and joins me for president, that I was

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<v Speaker 1>struggling against the ev mandate.

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<v Speaker 2>It's ridiculous was always a major part of my campaign.

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<v Speaker 1>Electric cars are fine, but not everyone should be forced

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<v Speaker 1>to own one.

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<v Speaker 2>No one was being forced.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever, Elon may get more subsidy than any human being

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<v Speaker 1>in history by far.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that might actually be true.

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<v Speaker 1>Between Tesla and SpaceX and all of the massive government contracts,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no doubt. I mean actually, under Obama he helped

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<v Speaker 1>to rescue both Tesla and SpaceX and moved the space

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<v Speaker 1>program away from being you know, house inside the government

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<v Speaker 1>to private contractors. I eat, SpaceX and Elon Musk. So

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<v Speaker 1>there is some truth to what Trump is saying here.

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<v Speaker 1>In any case, he says he may get more subsidy

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<v Speaker 1>than any human being in history by far. Without subsidies,

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<v Speaker 1>Elon would probably have to close up shop, head back

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<v Speaker 1>home to South Africa, no more rocket launches, satellites or

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<v Speaker 1>electric car production, and our country would save a fortune.

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<v Speaker 1>Perhaps we should have doge to get a good heart.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at this big money to be saved, That is

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<v Speaker 1>what Trump is saying. So they are back at full

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<v Speaker 1>on war. Maybe Elon is going to tell us more

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<v Speaker 1>about what he said before about the Epstein files and

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<v Speaker 1>how Trump was in them. Not that literally anyone should

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<v Speaker 1>have been surprised by that, since you have Jeffrey Epstein

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<v Speaker 1>out there saying, Hey, me and Donald Trump, we were

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<v Speaker 1>besties for a full on decade.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got pictures, we know he was.

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<v Speaker 1>On the Lilait to Express multiple times, so no one

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<v Speaker 1>should be completely shocked by this. However, you know, Elon,

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<v Speaker 1>they're really threatening to pull the pin. And it's been

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<v Speaker 1>interesting how originally how meek Trump was in the face

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<v Speaker 1>of Elon Musk, and how even after Elon said all

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<v Speaker 1>of that stuff, Yeah, he counseled Jane Vance to be diplomatic,

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<v Speaker 1>to not go aggressively against Elon. Trump really tried to

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<v Speaker 1>cool things down, and ultimately Elon does back up, and

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<v Speaker 1>now things have flared up again. I suspect this is

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<v Speaker 1>going to continue to be the dynamic where there's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like a quiet period and then things explode because

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about too gigantic narcissists who think they're like

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<v Speaker 1>the only people that matter in the entire world.

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<v Speaker 2>So that is the Elon piece of this.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a few other pieces that are really important to

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<v Speaker 1>note this morning, so just adapting you on where things are.

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<v Speaker 2>This is eight fifty three.

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<v Speaker 1>Am on Tuesday, morning is when I'm recording this July first,

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<v Speaker 1>and they've been voting in the Senate all night in

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<v Speaker 1>what they call a quote unquote vote rama on all

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<v Speaker 1>of these amendments to the one biggest beautiful bill. This

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<v Speaker 1>is like the longest vot rama in history or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that that I saw. And the way this works,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, is this bill has to get through the Senate,

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<v Speaker 1>which continues to be in doubt. Republicans can have ford

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<v Speaker 1>no Debacarty's going to vote for it. Republicans can afford

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<v Speaker 1>to lose three right now, they've got four in danger.

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<v Speaker 1>So Rand Paul is a no over deaths of concerns.

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Tillis is a no over a variety of concerns.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know they covered yesterday how he is just

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<v Speaker 1>he's not running for reelection and he is just going

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<v Speaker 1>full like nuclear on Trump in this bill, etc.

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<v Speaker 2>So Tillis is a no. Ran Paul is a no.

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<v Speaker 2>That means you can lose one war.

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<v Speaker 1>The two that are still out there are Susan Collins

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<v Speaker 1>and Lisa Murkowski, who are the quote unquote moderates in

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<v Speaker 1>the Republican caucus in the Senate. It looks like they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to work in particular on Lisa Murkowski. She represents Alaska.

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<v Speaker 1>They try to harve out these provisions in the bill

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<v Speaker 1>to basically buy her off, to say, the Medicaid cuts,

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<v Speaker 1>the food stamp cuts, they're not going to really apply

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<v Speaker 1>and Alaska. In the same way, the parliamentary who comes

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<v Speaker 1>in and says what things could be in the Reconciliationavielle

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<v Speaker 1>and what things can can't be in the reconciliation bill

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<v Speaker 1>said you can do this with regard to food stamps,

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<v Speaker 1>but not with regard to Medicaid. Why I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>but in any case, so she's not getting all of

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<v Speaker 1>the car bounce that had originally been promised to her.

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<v Speaker 1>So I suppose her vote is still in doubt. This morning,

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen all sorts of talk from Jake Sherman and

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<v Speaker 1>others about she's haddling with John Thune and having this

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<v Speaker 1>meeting and the side office and people are gathering around her,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's got a patent paper.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know what's going on there.

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<v Speaker 1>But keep in mind, even if they get their votes

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<v Speaker 1>in the Senate, it still has to go back to

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<v Speaker 1>the House and they have to This is where it's

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<v Speaker 1>called a Reconciliation Bill. It has to be reconciled with

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<v Speaker 1>the House version, which is different from the Senate version.

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<v Speaker 1>The House version passed by one vote, one vote, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's squeaked by to start with. You have similar balancing

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<v Speaker 1>act going on in the House between quote unquote motors

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<v Speaker 1>you're concerned about the Medicaid cuts, concerned about the food

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<v Speaker 1>stamp cuts, and the HARDMA budget hawks who are concerned

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<v Speaker 1>about how much this is adding to the debt and

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<v Speaker 1>the deficit. The Senate version as war to the debt

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<v Speaker 1>and the deficit. Is my understanding. The House version in

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<v Speaker 1>any case, I don't know. I think ultimately they probably

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<v Speaker 1>figure out some way to get this through, that is

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<v Speaker 1>my guess. But you can understand why Republicans are not

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<v Speaker 1>excited to vote on this because it is so profoundly unpopular.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this legislation, it is truly insane. I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>other people describing it as effectively like committing national suicide,

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<v Speaker 1>because not only do you have this massive upward transfer

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<v Speaker 1>of wealth, possibly the largest upward transfer of wealth in history,

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<v Speaker 1>from the cuts to social safety net programs, and that

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<v Speaker 1>money being funneled directly to the top in the form

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<v Speaker 1>of a gigantic, gigantic.

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<v Speaker 2>Tax cut to the top.

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<v Speaker 1>So you have that dynamic going on, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>also have this attack on energy production at a time

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<v Speaker 1>when energy production has perhaps been more critical, and specifically

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<v Speaker 1>an attack on the new clean forms of energy production

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<v Speaker 1>that certainly seem like the direction of the future and

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<v Speaker 1>an area that China is investing massively in. They're already

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<v Speaker 1>kicking our ass in solar in particular, and this bill

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<v Speaker 1>would destroy our ability to innovate and to build in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of solar, in terms of wind. Also, the aforementioned

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<v Speaker 1>EV credits, so a lot of work has been done

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<v Speaker 1>to do EV battery development in the United States is

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<v Speaker 1>some of the successful work that actually did happen under

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<v Speaker 1>the Biden administration.

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<v Speaker 2>This would cut all of that, So that's insane.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the other piece that you layer on top

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<v Speaker 1>of this is a massive expansion of the police and

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<v Speaker 1>surveillance state, specifically in the form of huge funding moving

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<v Speaker 1>to ICE, expanding these private prison contracts for detention centers,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know the raids that we've been seeing home

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<v Speaker 1>depot and whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>This would add so supercharged that.

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<v Speaker 1>So you've got a tax kept for the rich, massive

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<v Speaker 1>cuts of the working class of the poor, and then

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<v Speaker 1>a huge expansion of the defense budget and the surveillance state.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's kind of There's a bunch of other stuff

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<v Speaker 1>with this bill too, but that's like the big picture

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<v Speaker 1>of what's in here.

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<v Speaker 2>Low and behold, it is profoundly unpopular.

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<v Speaker 1>Harry antin dis did a big piece breaking down the

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<v Speaker 1>approval rating of the bill on all the different polls

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<v Speaker 1>that are asked people the question, Hey, how do you

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<v Speaker 1>feel about this thing? It's underwater anywhere from like twenty

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<v Speaker 1>to thirty points, and with independence, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Underwater more than forty points. Again, not a surprise. Just

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<v Speaker 2>ask Steve Bannon.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been warning about how incredibly unpopular this thing is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be. I think Republicans have just number one

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<v Speaker 1>decided that they're probably going to lose the House in

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<v Speaker 1>the midterm, so they've like it's sort of like a

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<v Speaker 1>lost cause at this point too. For Trump, as in

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<v Speaker 1>his first term, this giant tax cut is just a

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<v Speaker 1>massive priority for him, and it's something that really unites

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<v Speaker 1>the Republican caucus. They want to do this giant tax

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<v Speaker 1>cut for the rich, and so I don't think they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be shaken off of that this is one

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<v Speaker 1>of the key promises that he made to his billionaire donors,

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<v Speaker 1>that this tax cut would get extended from the original

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<v Speaker 1>Tax Cut and Jobs Act that he passed in his

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<v Speaker 1>first administration. So this is a key priority for him.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not backing off of it. I think Republicans ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>will probably find some way to get it through, but

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<v Speaker 1>as of this morning, it is in doubt, and you

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<v Speaker 1>can see it's creating all kinds of all kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>tentions with him and Elon Musk and various parts of

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<v Speaker 1>the coalition. Last thing that I'll mentioned here is the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that there is polling that indicates that a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of Americans don't actually know what is in this bill,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a profound failure on the part of the

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<v Speaker 1>Democratic Party. You know, you've got Kirsten Jilibrand out there

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<v Speaker 1>who's too busy attacking zoron Mom Donnie in this incredibly

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<v Speaker 1>racist way to effectively communicate on any other issue.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, she has now declined.

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<v Speaker 1>To do any other interviews because she can't figure out

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<v Speaker 1>how to I guess not be She's afraid of getting

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<v Speaker 1>asked about Zoran and doesn't know how to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>keep the donor class happy and apac happy in particular

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<v Speaker 1>without apparently getting you know, being like just outrageously islamophobic

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<v Speaker 1>in her comments. So she's off the table. Not that

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<v Speaker 1>she's anything wonderful in terms of communicator to begin with,

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<v Speaker 1>but because you've have so many Democrats who are busy

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<v Speaker 1>attacking Zoran, Mum Donnie and focus on these other things,

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't had the messaging on.

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<v Speaker 2>This bill really breakthrough. I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>The other piece of this is that, of course there's

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<v Speaker 1>been a lot of focus on the fact that Trump

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<v Speaker 1>started a war with a ron so that has also

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<v Speaker 1>sucked up a lot of the oxygen the attention in

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<v Speaker 1>the room in terms of being able to tell people

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<v Speaker 1>what is in this bill. But very few people actually

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<v Speaker 1>even realize the dire cuts to Medicaid, the millions of

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<v Speaker 1>Americans who will be cut off of health insurance, cut

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<v Speaker 1>off of Medicaid that this bill entails.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's very possible that.

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<v Speaker 1>Even as bad as the polling is on it right now,

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<v Speaker 1>that after it passes, it gets even worse as people

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<v Speaker 1>realize just how damaging this thing is. You know, rural

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<v Speaker 1>hospitals are going to close, so many people are going

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<v Speaker 1>to lose health insurance, going to lose access to food stamps.

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<v Speaker 1>There's all sorts of things in here that are going

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<v Speaker 1>to cause problems for people. So it may be one

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<v Speaker 1>of those things where this horror show passes and then

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<v Speaker 1>people continue to realize just how horrible and politically toxic

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<v Speaker 1>it is. Again, largest upward transfer of wealth in history.

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans now at war with each other over this elon

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<v Speaker 1>and Trump fully back at it. And that's where we

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<v Speaker 1>are Plaza this morning,