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Speaker 1: Katie, can I see you in my office for just

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Speaker 1: a minute. It's one more thing. I'm strung, one more thing.

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Speaker 2: Before we get to Katie's story. Yes, Joe, I was

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Speaker 2: gonna say, you know, I'll wait, you got something. I'll

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Speaker 2: use this as a prelude to Katie's tale of Okay something.

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Speaker 3: So yesterday we got on the topic of the fact

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Speaker 3: that I take my coat off like a woman. As

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Speaker 3: my son said, you take your coat off like a girl. Confirmed.

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Speaker 3: I checked with a friend who's known me for twenty

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Speaker 3: five years who said, yeah, you do take your coat

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Speaker 3: off like a girl. Thought, really, okay, that's interesting. Then

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Speaker 3: yesterday took off my coat during the show for Katie.

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Speaker 3: She said, you absolutely take your goat. It's the way

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Speaker 3: I rolled my shoulders, apparently. So we made a video

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Speaker 3: of it and put it up for a vote, and

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Speaker 3: we posted on Twitter, and it's running sixty about two thirds. Yes,

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Speaker 3: I lack authority and otherwise in other words, I take

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Speaker 3: my coat off like a girl, or know about a third.

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Speaker 3: So most people seem to agree a lot of comments

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Speaker 3: on the video. For instance, Dave, who weighed in he

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Speaker 3: may take his coat off like a lady, but he

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Speaker 3: takes his pantyhose off like a man. Okay, thank you

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Speaker 3: for that. It's the way he puffs out his boobs.

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Speaker 3: That's what my son said. It's like you're trying to

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Speaker 3: push out your boobs but you don't have any. Okay,

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Speaker 3: you're like a Ponzi hairdresser. This person said, Oh, Karen Henriddy,

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Speaker 3: who's the insults?

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Speaker 2: Huh?

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Speaker 3: Karen Henriady a fabulous human being in a long time.

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Speaker 3: A friend of the Armstrong and Getty Show said, Michelangelo

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Speaker 3: is a national treasurer. That's for Michelangelo's participation in the

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Speaker 3: video in which he takes his jacket off like a

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Speaker 3: man compared to my taking it off like a girl.

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Speaker 3: I went into this wanting to back you, Jack, But

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Speaker 3: yet you do huh.

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Speaker 1: Big popular vote that your jacket's too small?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well it wasn't when I bought it.

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Speaker 2: Did you see Jamie's comment, our beloved former newswoman Jamie Coffee,

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Speaker 2: I did not, She said, not sure. It's like a girl,

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Speaker 2: but definitely more fluid and more flair than Michaelangelow's cave

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Speaker 2: man esque disrobing of his coat. So and you do

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Speaker 2: you boo boo? She writes, that's a very Jamie thing

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Speaker 2: to say. Yeah, so Michael coming in for a little criticism.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know why I rolled my shoulders like that.

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Speaker 3: It's really made me think a lot about a lot

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Speaker 3: of things, giving you a caplex.

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Speaker 2: I have been a flaming heterosexual since early in my life.

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Speaker 2: I just knew it's girls for me from a very early,

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Speaker 2: you know, point in my life, and I have observed

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Speaker 2: girlishness and femininity in many, many different pursuits.

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Speaker 3: I've never thought about there being.

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Speaker 2: A feminine way to take off one's coat.

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Speaker 3: Now until people started posting gifts of women taking off

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Speaker 3: their coats. And that's the way I take my coat off. Huh, Jack,

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Speaker 3: He is an effeminate man who seeks recognition and approval

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Speaker 3: from others, especially the opposite sex, for self esteem fulfillment.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, good psychoanalysis.

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Speaker 3: That's no charge either. It's the shoulder roll, everybody says,

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Speaker 3: a shimmy. I don't know what to do about that. Okay,

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Speaker 3: So tell us your story, Katie or Joe has a

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Speaker 3: prelude to Yes, Joe had something.

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Speaker 2: Well, I was just gonna say we, uh, I'm not

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Speaker 2: even sure this person's with us anymore. Are our first agent.

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Speaker 2: We were not thrilled with the job he did, and

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Speaker 2: indeed we asked him to take his leave in favor

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Speaker 2: of Eric, the world's greatest agent. On the other hand,

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Speaker 2: he'd say, guys, call me, it's urgent. It's a good thing. Yes,

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Speaker 2: So he would always make it clear, hey, I got

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Speaker 2: to see you. Don't worry. Everything's cool, because he knew

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Speaker 2: that anybody who gets that summons is.

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Speaker 3: Like, holy crap. So, bosses, I've always wondered this, when

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Speaker 3: you say I'd like to see in my office at

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Speaker 3: them being freaked out, you should say, as our agent

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Speaker 3: used to say it's a good thing, yeah, or.

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Speaker 2: It's no big deal. We just got to deal with something.

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Speaker 2: Of course if they were going to sack you and

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Speaker 1: But if you call your agent, he says it's a

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Speaker 1: good thing, and he says, guess what, guys, I got

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Speaker 1: a new car.

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Speaker 3: That doesn't help you.

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Speaker 2: I'm watching the video. I hadn't watched the whole video yet.

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Speaker 2: I had a crazy busy days. Michael taking his that's

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Speaker 2: not cave vanaged. That's a man taking off his coat. Michael,

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Speaker 2: I apologize for even report repeating that that idiotic criticism.

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Speaker 2: Jack is going to take off his coat. It's uh,

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Speaker 2: it's it's PONSI. It's hard to describe why, but it's.

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Speaker 3: I know, I'm wondering how I picked that up. Weirdly deliberate,

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Speaker 3: that's exactly that's funny. That is really weird. Let me

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Speaker 3: seen me take a jacket off in twenty five years.

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Speaker 3: And I ask them, I mean, it's just weird that

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Speaker 3: texted me and said, do I take my jacket off

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Speaker 3: in an effeminate way, I would say, what the hell

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Speaker 3: are you talking about? What I said? Yeah, you're very

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Speaker 3: particular and intentional when removing your jacket, very feminine. They

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Speaker 3: use the very word that you used. That's so strange.

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Speaker 2: I know it is. This is this is a topic

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Speaker 2: I have never spent a single second thinking about. No

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Speaker 2: agreement with two thirds of people. Okay, whatever, you know.

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Speaker 2: But she was insanely busy yesterday and we never got

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Speaker 2: so it's probably more normal. But I'm also totally aware.

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Speaker 2: Now I'll be hyper aware I won't be able to

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Speaker 3: I wonder if I've ever ce blocked myself. If you'll

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Speaker 3: part in the expression having met a woman who's kind

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Speaker 2: And maybe she's not even conscious of why. She's like,

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Speaker 2: I'm not a lesbian.

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Speaker 3: There's probably a dozen beautiful women out there, Jack that

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Speaker 3: this has happened. It was like, I can't be with

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Anyway back to Katie, this is this is just a

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Speaker 1: silly story that I had actually forgotten about until this

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Speaker 1: conversation came up. One of my top favorite bosses of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, Paul.

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Speaker 2: What a good dude.

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Speaker 1: So I get off the air in San Francisco and

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Speaker 1: he comes into the into the studio and he goes, hey, Katie,

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Speaker 3: What did I do? Whatever?

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Speaker 1: So I go into his office and he sits me

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Speaker 1: Exactly my reaction. I'm like, what what are you talking about?

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Speaker 3: You get out of your car like a dude, and

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Speaker 3: it's just weird. Yes, it's off. Yeah, that was it.

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Speaker 1: And he goes, you're the pictures on your car and

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Speaker 2: So in the license plate.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So we walked down to the garage and we

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Speaker 3: Of the magazine.

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Speaker 3: On the back of my car. Oh okay.

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Speaker 1: So I go into my text messages because I hadn't

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Speaker 1: I call him and I start, you know, fake crying.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, Ryan, dude, my boss, really, my boss would

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Speaker 3: Really. Oh my god, this is the appropriate vengeance. This ismfortable,

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Speaker 1: So Paul has him on speaker phone and he goes, Hi, Ryan,

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Speaker 1: this is this is Katie's program director here in San Francisco,

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Speaker 1: and I just wanted to discuss the images that you

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Speaker 1: hear Ryan going no, no, no, and then Paul start busting

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Speaker 1: up laughing. But anyway, that that's pretty good. The reason

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Speaker 1: this story came up is because we were talking about

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Speaker 1: the weirdest reasons we've ever been called into our boss's office,

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Speaker 1: and my brain went, oh, my god, that happened.

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Speaker 3: Oh that is that is a good way to get

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Speaker 3: back at somebody though. That's good.

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Speaker 1: God, Oh it was mortifying.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, if you are doing this job and you get

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Speaker 3: Right. It was a short walk to Paul's office.

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Speaker 1: But I'm going, Okay, what did I I did this

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Speaker 1: news story a common I'm like, I had no idea

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Speaker 1: at all.

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Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, we've like had serious stressful

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Speaker 2: issues with people completely freaked out and pissed off some

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Speaker 2: of them performatively about things we've said. And I'd say

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Speaker 2: two of the three I never saw it coming.

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Speaker 3: No, I was gonna say every time I've gotten in

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Speaker 3: trouble for saying something. It's like something I didn't even remember.

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Speaker 3: I say edgy things sometimes and they go, oh boy,

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Speaker 3: that might get me in trouble. That's not the one.

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Speaker 3: It's the thing I didn't even think of for some

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Speaker 3: reason that usually ends up with the TV cameras outside

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Speaker 3: the radio station.

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Speaker 2: And then there is I need to come up with

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Speaker 2: a name for it. It's like my white whale. It's

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Speaker 2: the one thing I said once that I thought, that's it.

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Speaker 2: I've been in my career. I shouldn't have said that. Whoops,

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Speaker 2: And I was.

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Speaker 3: I was.

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Speaker 2: I was virtually certain it would be devastating and nothing

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Speaker 2: ever came of it. And you can ply me with booze.

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Speaker 2: You can put me on the rack, give my boy,

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Speaker 2: you can, or a handy or the other thing. Well,

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Speaker 2: the other thing might get me. I don't know. Try it,

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Speaker 2: but I gotta go to church. I need to get

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Speaker 2: to go to church and have my ears washed out.

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Speaker 2: And I will never admit it. I will never repeat it.

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Speaker 2: It will not be repeated.

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Speaker 3: Had one time we angered the Asians, and every TV

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Speaker 3: station sent their Asian girl reporter to the radio station too,

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Speaker 3: and that was.

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Speaker 2: The funny part of it. And we've seen that sort

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Speaker 2: of thing. If you say something insensitive about like affirmative

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Speaker 2: action for black people or something like that, all of

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Speaker 2: a sudden you find out every every station in town

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Speaker 2: happens to have a black reporter too. Wow, and they're

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Speaker 2: reporting on this story. It's hilarious once you become aware

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Speaker 2: of it. It's it's like a hundred percent Italian Americans

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Speaker 2: are angered at the cancelation of the parade.

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Speaker 3: We go to Luigi Praconi for a report. Come on, well,

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Speaker 3: I guess that's it.