WEBVTT - Who's Down for the 2023-24 Season?

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<v Speaker 1>Breaks breaking down all the biggest NBA storylines or tilled

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<v Speaker 1>in so the heat Check. The Heat Check was just

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<v Speaker 1>a crazy, the best podcast covering all the drama around

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<v Speaker 1>the association.

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<v Speaker 2>So if the Magic, the Thunder, the Pacers, and the

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<v Speaker 2>Jazz are all on the move, then who's fallen off

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<v Speaker 2>the cliff? That's the question, because that's this is a

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<v Speaker 2>lot easier to predict, in my opinion, than the teams

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<v Speaker 2>that are on the rise, to be honest, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>for a lot of different reasons. Number One, we gotta

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<v Speaker 2>go with the number one most obvious team the people

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<v Speaker 2>think is actually a contender, but they are not a contender,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is the La Clippers. They are a team

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<v Speaker 2>at a crossroads. They have one of the more talented

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<v Speaker 2>deep rosters in the NBA, and it doesn't matter because

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<v Speaker 2>their players don't play. Their players are never healthy. You

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<v Speaker 2>have nine guys on the roster with at least seven

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<v Speaker 2>years of NBA experience under their belt, including seven with

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<v Speaker 2>a decade or more of wear and tear on that trend,

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's fine. I'm like, oh, you want to a

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<v Speaker 2>veteran team, Yeah, but like those tires are getting a

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<v Speaker 2>little bald. And the Winter's coming. You add you have Westbrook,

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<v Speaker 2>but Toom played fifteen years, Paul George has played thirteen,

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<v Speaker 2>Kawhi Leonard twelve, and that right there, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 2>is the problem. They're not a healthy team. Kawhi has

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<v Speaker 2>played just forty nine percent of the games in the

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<v Speaker 2>past six seasons. Paul George has missed forty of his

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<v Speaker 2>games as a Clipper. Even Norm Power has missed one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred games in four years. That's just too much. That's

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<v Speaker 2>just too many games to miss if you think you're

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<v Speaker 2>a contender. I am not convinced that any of these

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<v Speaker 2>players can play even close to eighty two games. And

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<v Speaker 2>now you add in the new low management rules. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>there's problems, problems. This is an old team that lacks

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<v Speaker 2>true point guard and has very little depth. kJ Martin's

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<v Speaker 2>fine player. I like them a lot right way. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>bones Hiland can develop, maybe he can be useful, but

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<v Speaker 2>I don't. I don't love this roster at all, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think they have much time to fix it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to play this. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>overplay this too soon. But there were rumors last season

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<v Speaker 2>about discord in the locker room and discord with Tylou.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you give Michael Winger the clips GM who

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<v Speaker 2>bolts for the Washington Wizards, it doesn't give you much

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<v Speaker 2>confidence that things are being run in a productive and

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<v Speaker 2>healthy fashion. Sometimes sometimes you figure maybe the rumors were true, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe something miss going on. It's like NASCAR driver ditching

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<v Speaker 2>Coca Cola as their main sponsor and then they replace

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<v Speaker 2>them with Starry, which I think is like what if

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<v Speaker 2>it used to be? I don't even remember Sierra missed

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<v Speaker 2>something like that. Something is up uh and that's not

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<v Speaker 2>done unless there's a reason for it. And the other

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<v Speaker 2>problem for the Clippers is they just don't have any

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<v Speaker 2>trade capital. There's nothing they can do. You want Harden,

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<v Speaker 2>who gives a fuck? How are you gonna get it? They

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<v Speaker 2>gave it all away and shake Yojes Alexander for Paul George,

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<v Speaker 2>which could be and probably is the worst trade in

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<v Speaker 2>NBA history. Their draft class Kobe Brown at thirty I

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<v Speaker 2>don't hate. I guess six to eight small forward has

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<v Speaker 2>a little hitch in his shot, like Jordan Miller from Miami.

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<v Speaker 2>Neither are altering franchise altering players. Let's be real and

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<v Speaker 2>with the west On the rise, like even Utah. Utah

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<v Speaker 2>has a better roster than the La Clippers. I know

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<v Speaker 2>that's crazy to say, but top to bottom, I'd rather

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<v Speaker 2>have Utah's team. The Clippers are one of those teams

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<v Speaker 2>that's just gonna drop off of a cliff and unless

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<v Speaker 2>something goes significantly differently than the last years that Paul

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<v Speaker 2>George and Kawhi have been there moving forward, Brooklyn, that's

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<v Speaker 2>another team that you have to expect is gonna decline.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a bit unfair because they were the sixty last year,

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<v Speaker 2>but a lot of those games that they won came

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<v Speaker 2>when Kyrie Irving and Kevin Duramer on those teams. So

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<v Speaker 2>they skated into the playoffs and they were running on

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<v Speaker 2>fumes playing the Philadelphia seventy six ers. Mckel Bridges is

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<v Speaker 2>a nice player. Cam Johnson's a nice player, but hey,

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<v Speaker 2>what are you gonna do? That is the way the

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<v Speaker 2>cookie crumbles. They lost two Hall of Famers within a

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<v Speaker 2>week lass season, a third made his way out in

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<v Speaker 2>the preseason h last year, and we shouldn't have much

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<v Speaker 2>of an expectation for this year. Right There's a real

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<v Speaker 2>chance that the Nets might be bottom three. That's that's

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<v Speaker 2>with the healthy Ben Simmons. I'm not sure Ben Simmons

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<v Speaker 2>is even himself ever. Again, they have nice pieces. I

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<v Speaker 2>like they have mckel bridges. Like I said, Nick Claxton

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<v Speaker 2>is a nice piece. If he could shoot free throws,

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<v Speaker 2>he'd be really good. Royce O'Neill is a nice player

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<v Speaker 2>off the bench. But like I like Spencer Dinwiddie too.

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<v Speaker 2>No shade the Spencer DINWIDDI hm hmm. That's pretty much it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's kind of it. You lost Utah Wattenabe, your one

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<v Speaker 2>of your better three point shooters who could do a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of everything, because he decided to go play

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<v Speaker 2>with Kevin Durant and they lack depth. And fortunately, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're a Nets fan, you now have assets again to

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<v Speaker 2>go and make stuff happen. And you drained the cupboard

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<v Speaker 2>for a decade to get Hard and Katie and Kyrie.

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<v Speaker 2>But now after this year, you'll have five first rounders

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<v Speaker 2>in the following five years. Kind of prime for a rebuild.

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<v Speaker 2>If you ask me, maybe you want to try to

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<v Speaker 2>trade for Dame. I don't hate that. Go ahead, have them,

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<v Speaker 2>go get them, go go make a deal for him.

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<v Speaker 2>We then turned to Philadelphia. We talked about a lot

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<v Speaker 2>in the off season. They are. They are also headed

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<v Speaker 2>for a very tumultuous season. Let's be real. Anytime Hardin

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<v Speaker 2>is on your team in the preseason at trading camp

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<v Speaker 2>and he he doesn't want to be there, then I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>what are you gonna say. It's just you're headed for

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<v Speaker 2>You're headed for drama. I don't think big game James

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<v Speaker 2>is going to decide to play for Darryl Moray anytime soon.

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<v Speaker 2>He already said it twice. Let me say it again.

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<v Speaker 2>I will never play for this team as long as

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<v Speaker 2>Daryl Moury is there. So as long as Daryl Moury

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<v Speaker 2>is there, you've got fat suit James to be worrying about.

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<v Speaker 2>And given the fact that he was supposed to be

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<v Speaker 2>your starting guard, You've got Tyree s Maxi there, who's

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<v Speaker 2>a fine player, but definitely isn't I don't think ready

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<v Speaker 2>to step into James Harden's shoes. You have Montres Harrow

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<v Speaker 2>who tore his acl and is out for the full year.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's tailspin city, really. They finished fifty four and

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<v Speaker 2>twenty eight last year, right third place. A lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people were high on their chances in the playoff to

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<v Speaker 2>be a real contender. A lot of people also forget

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<v Speaker 2>that Joel Embiid is always hurt in the playoffs. But hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I digress, But why do I think that this team

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<v Speaker 2>is headed for a big falloff? Best case scenario, the

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<v Speaker 2>Sixers train discreuntel star for a boltload of assets, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's not happening. The only place he wants to go

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<v Speaker 2>to is the Clippers, and like I said, they don't

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<v Speaker 2>have enough assets to go and get him. Some of

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<v Speaker 2>that has to do with Hardens not the same Hardened

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<v Speaker 2>as he was in twenty nineteen. Most of it's due

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<v Speaker 2>to the fact that no team is dumb enough to

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<v Speaker 2>risk valuable assets on a player who is on an

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<v Speaker 2>expiring contract and has been known to be an asshole

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<v Speaker 2>when he doesn't want to play for that team. He's

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<v Speaker 2>now forced his way off of three teams in three years.

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<v Speaker 2>No shade to James Harden. That's just math school. Maury

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<v Speaker 2>may be waiting for a star player in return, but

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<v Speaker 2>that's not happening, which leaves these other three scenarios. These

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<v Speaker 2>other scenarios, First, Harden gets moved for nothing bag of chips,

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<v Speaker 2>which is probably a realistic call for a discrentold star

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<v Speaker 2>who's probably not even play in shape. But then you

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<v Speaker 2>don't have really any point guard to fill your roster

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<v Speaker 2>with unless it's Tyreves Maxi. Second, Sixers say, Harden, you

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<v Speaker 2>need to play basketball for us playing hardball. There's no

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<v Speaker 2>other way, And that can end in two ways. Harden

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<v Speaker 2>decides he's going to act my neck, my beat my neck, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>my bet, and then just sit on the sidelines and

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<v Speaker 2>street clothes until you trade him. That's one scenario. Or

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<v Speaker 2>he can just dip set on you and play for

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<v Speaker 2>China and decide because they've already embraced him in his

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<v Speaker 2>new brand of alcohol, and then the Sixers still have

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<v Speaker 2>a massive hole in their lineup. The other scenario is

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<v Speaker 2>that Harden gets forced to play for a team that

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<v Speaker 2>he now actively hates, and we know how that goes.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I said, he fakes an injury and that's pretty

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<v Speaker 2>much it. Or actually there is one more scenario that

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<v Speaker 2>people are not talking about. Just fire dearral Morey. Just

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<v Speaker 2>fire him, get rid of them, and then maybe, maybe,

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<v Speaker 2>just maybe James Harden plays out the rest of his contract,

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<v Speaker 2>see how he looks. He trade him maybe at the

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<v Speaker 2>deadline to a team he wants to go to or

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<v Speaker 2>that he'd be okay with and then at least his

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<v Speaker 2>values higher than it is right now. When he's telling

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<v Speaker 2>everyone he's not going to play for you, Joel Embiid

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<v Speaker 2>already saying that he's unhappy, or at least alluding to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Scotto reported this summer that the Knicks are watching

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<v Speaker 2>the situation because they're trying to get Joel Embiid. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>let's be honest. Everything I'm saying is making me out

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<v Speaker 2>of breath because it's a shit show. We all know

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<v Speaker 2>that the Warriors got absolutely derailed last year by external issues.

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<v Speaker 2>If you think Draymond Green punching Jordan Poole in the

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<v Speaker 2>face was bad enough to deroyl a title contender that

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<v Speaker 2>just won the title the year before, guess what, it's

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<v Speaker 2>even worse than Philly, with those fans, with that ownership,

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<v Speaker 2>and with the players involved. Philly is this year's wish

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<v Speaker 2>version of Golden State. All of that brings me to

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<v Speaker 2>the team that I think is going to be primed

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<v Speaker 2>for a massive fall off, a team that I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even know why people think is a real contender this year.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been in a knockdown, drag out war folks with

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<v Speaker 2>Heat fans online not real ones. People thought maybe it

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<v Speaker 2>was real. I'm not into violence, but I had the

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<v Speaker 2>bravery to say, Hey, your team sucks. Okay, your roster sucks,

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<v Speaker 2>and Blazers don't want any of your roster. Honestly, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't have the assets to trade for a top three

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<v Speaker 2>point guard in this league, no matter how old he is,

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<v Speaker 2>no matter how much he gets paid, and no matter

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<v Speaker 2>how much you tell us that you do, no matter

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<v Speaker 2>how much Dame's agent tells us that you do, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't have it. And you would think I murdered a

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<v Speaker 2>school bus full of Miami Dade County orphans. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>they came for me in the streets. It was blood.

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<v Speaker 2>The fan base is delusional. Uh, It's like you're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to convince now the world that Tyler heroes better than

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<v Speaker 2>ogn Andobi because why because now Toronto looks like they're

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<v Speaker 2>in the sweepstakes for Damian Lillard, and so you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>come after Ogn and Nobi's caliber of play when Memphis

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<v Speaker 2>was trying to trade for him for three first round

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<v Speaker 2>picks and Toronto said no, that's how crazy they are.

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<v Speaker 2>The Heat are primed for a fall off. The cliff

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<v Speaker 2>why they were a playing team last year, they were

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<v Speaker 2>an eight seed. They caught fire, They were lucky. They

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<v Speaker 2>were constructed in a way where Jimmy Butler took this

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<v Speaker 2>team to a place that they probably shouldn't even gone.

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<v Speaker 2>You had injuries to the Bucks, Joannice Middleton, em beat.

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<v Speaker 2>You got carried on the back of Jimmy Buckets right.

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<v Speaker 2>You had some unbelievable performances, nice story, nice run. But

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<v Speaker 2>guess what, you can't steal Damian Lillard for nothing, because

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<v Speaker 2>we still know that those players aren't very good. This

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<v Speaker 2>team went out, they lost Max Streus, they lost gave Vincent,

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<v Speaker 2>very critical players to what they did in the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 2>They want to get Damian Lillard to take and then

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<v Speaker 2>take on Kyle Lowry's our Albatrosh contract when he's thirty

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<v Speaker 2>eight years old, and that Portland should be happy. You're

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely insane. And don't even get me started on Tyler Hero,

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<v Speaker 2>who is of absolutely no use to Portland at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Considering that they have one too many guards on their

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<v Speaker 2>team right now, they don't need another one. But they

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<v Speaker 2>do lose starters from an eighth place team, well, a

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<v Speaker 2>seventh place team, But then you know the whole play

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<v Speaker 2>and thing. They lose Victor Oladipo and Cody Zeller And

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<v Speaker 2>before you say, oh, that's no big loss, Oladipo averaged

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<v Speaker 2>eleven three and four in one half of the season.

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<v Speaker 2>Zeller had seven to four in one and fifteen minutes,

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<v Speaker 2>and that wasn't terrible either. So who did they replace

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<v Speaker 2>Max Strue and Gabe Vincent with at this point Josh Richardson,

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<v Speaker 2>which Keith fans think is is like the second coming

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<v Speaker 2>of Jesus and Thomas Bryant. Okay, sure, I love HEIMI

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<v Speaker 2>hack he's a great player. Is he ready to contribute

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<v Speaker 2>right now, right the second to a title team? I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. I think he's going to need time to adjust.

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<v Speaker 2>I think teams are going to be hunting him too

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<v Speaker 2>because of this lack of size. Here is what one

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<v Speaker 2>scouting report said about Heimi Hawkins. Hawkes struggles to create contact,

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<v Speaker 2>often fading away and maneuvering around defenders. His twenty four

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<v Speaker 2>point nine free throw rate percentage is seventy ninth of

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<v Speaker 2>one oh nine Division wing forwards Division one wing forwards, yuck.

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<v Speaker 2>Despite his size, Hawkes tends to play small in the post.

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<v Speaker 2>He allows defenders to easily alter his shots. Although he

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<v Speaker 2>is an excellent offensive rebounder, this may cause issues at

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<v Speaker 2>the next level, where players are quicker and stronger. If

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<v Speaker 2>he struggles, they have perimeter shots and score on the post,

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<v Speaker 2>he may be unable to make the most out of

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<v Speaker 2>his hybrid size and his unique skill set. In other words,

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<v Speaker 2>we know he's no Max Strews, Like stop with that.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is a team that's counting on major minutes

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<v Speaker 2>from Kevin Love and Josh Richardson. Who The last time

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<v Speaker 2>that Josh Richardson was productive, really in any meaningful way

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<v Speaker 2>was when he played for Miami and Miami flipped him

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<v Speaker 2>to get Jimmy Butler and they fleeced the Sixers. What

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<v Speaker 2>are they don't really want him back? No. Seventh place

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<v Speaker 2>to the finals was the surprise. Okay, that was the surprise.

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<v Speaker 2>What would not surprise me is if this team is

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<v Speaker 2>a lottery team, when if they can't get Dame. See

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<v Speaker 2>I almost said when if they can't get