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Speaker 1: and Derek Eagleton. It is Monday, October fifteenth, twenty eighteen,
Speaker 1: season fourteen, episode number sixty. Welcome to a very special
Speaker 1: edition of The Break, live from SBWBC Mortgage Studios at
Speaker 1: the Star, and we're so excited to talk Cowboys football today.
Speaker 1: Cowboys get a huge win, probably the most dominating performance
Speaker 1: they've had. Nick, I think your article said in the
Speaker 1: last four years? Is that right? At least at least
Speaker 1: four years? But the Cowboys win forty seven at home
Speaker 1: against the Jacksonville Jaguars made that Jaguars Jaguars defense look
Speaker 1: pretty pedestrian. We'll get into that and talk about what
Speaker 1: the Cowboys did well, not only on offense but also
Speaker 1: on their defense. It was just a dominating performance all
Speaker 1: the way around. Welcome to show. Thank you guys for
Speaker 1: joining us. Let's jump right in Let's first start off.
Speaker 1: There were so many different things that happened in that game,
Speaker 1: so many different moments in that game. So we'll go
Speaker 1: around the table on when everybody tell me what moment
Speaker 1: sticks out to them, what they came away from that
Speaker 1: game with as a big picture view. Let's start with you, Dave,
Speaker 1: what did Okay? I'm glad. Okay, I'm glad the way
Speaker 1: you phrase that, because my main impression from this is
Speaker 1: all right, Well, we'll get into the offense. That's great.
Speaker 1: Good for them, they played a really good game. I
Speaker 1: can't trust that it's for real until I see it
Speaker 1: on a more regular basis. What I come away from
Speaker 1: is once again, this defense, because that is six times
Speaker 1: that they have been very good borderline elite they held
Speaker 1: and Jacksonville's offense is anything to get excited about. I
Speaker 1: understand that, but seven points they're allowing seventeen point two
Speaker 1: per game. They are just now over a d They
Speaker 1: got David Irving back. He looks like he's going to
Speaker 1: contribute to the pass rush. Shaun Lee is presently as
Speaker 1: we sit here, he's outside working out despite the fact
Speaker 1: that it's raining. Totally greatness of that scene, though it's
Speaker 1: rain came steady out there. It's it's forty degree. We
Speaker 1: were shooting a film right now, that would be a
Speaker 1: pretty epic, like, yes, great shot, but there's no need.
Speaker 1: Do you got an indoor field where it's warm and
Speaker 1: good for you to practice in? There no need to
Speaker 1: get wet. It's forty degrees and storming here in Dallas,
Speaker 1: by the way, it feels like thirty two because of
Speaker 1: the wind. Like, it's pretty cool, it's raining. It's switched.
Speaker 1: Shawn Lee is out on the outdoor practice field working
Speaker 1: out his hamstring trying to get right, probably because he
Speaker 1: thinks he's got a good shot to play against the Redskins.
Speaker 1: So my point being, defense is only going to get better,
Speaker 1: and it's dominant already anyway, and they proved it again.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that really is what I come away from
Speaker 1: because I need to see more from the offense. The
Speaker 1: defense just keeps doing its thing. Amber you know, this
Speaker 1: isn't even the highlight of what the game was, but
Speaker 1: I was pretty happy to see Jordan Lewis on the
Speaker 1: field and making some place and reminding us what he's
Speaker 1: capable of. And he felt nice to be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: well I didn't just imagine that he could actually play.
Speaker 1: He actually made it, came out there and made a
Speaker 1: name of himself. Also, David Irving coming back again. It's
Speaker 1: very clear and evident why this team is putting up
Speaker 1: with what they've been putting up with. David Irving. He's
Speaker 1: an absolute beast and he showed it the moment he
Speaker 1: stepped on the field, pressured the quarterback, didn't get a sack,
Speaker 1: but man, he is a beast. So that's exciting to see. Man.
Speaker 1: We'll get into the offense in a little bit. Yeck, well,
Speaker 1: I mean it is the offense. I mean, no offense
Speaker 1: to you guys, But you guys aren't really surprised that
Speaker 1: the defense played well, you have to be surprised with
Speaker 1: forty points on the offense. I think that was the key. There.
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter what they're gonna do next week or whatever.
Speaker 1: The point is is that they went out played what
Speaker 1: was the number one defense league, which I don't know
Speaker 1: if they still are now. Yeah. He asked what I
Speaker 1: thought it meant in the big picture, which, yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: the offense was the story of the game, for sure,
Speaker 1: But I think it is the big picture because I
Speaker 1: think it shows you what they're capable of doing and
Speaker 1: that this offensive line is really where it started. It
Speaker 1: could get back to that type of football where they
Speaker 1: can kind of dictate things. Now. Jacksonville's defense is still
Speaker 1: pretty good because they had some issues in the red
Speaker 1: zone and all that stuff. But I thought they're finally
Speaker 1: showing that, you know, you don't have to have a
Speaker 1: pocket passer. You can play the game the way Cam
Speaker 1: Newton plays it. This is the type of game that
Speaker 1: Dat needs to play. He needs to play this type
Speaker 1: of game right here where he doesn't matter he throws it,
Speaker 1: he gets two hundred and sixty yards. That's a good
Speaker 1: offense right there. It doesn't matter how you're doing. It's
Speaker 1: about two hundred and sixty yards and three touchdowns. That's
Speaker 1: a good day. Yep. All right, So let's jump in.
Speaker 1: Let's talk some more specifics. Cowboys offense, which you started
Speaker 1: talking about, Nick. They scored on their first four possessions.
Speaker 1: They got out to a quick start, three touchdowns, one
Speaker 1: field goal. They had three hundred and seventy eight yards
Speaker 1: of total offense, forty points. They were seven or seventeen
Speaker 1: that's forty one percent on third downs, which is a
Speaker 1: really good number for them. Twenty three first downs in
Speaker 1: this game, four or five red zone efficiencies. That five
Speaker 1: of the times they were in side of twenty four
Speaker 1: those times they got touchdowns and time possession was completely
Speaker 1: on their side. Thirty eight minutes and fifty five seconds.
Speaker 1: Talking to me about the differences, what were the differences
Speaker 1: and what they did yesterday offensively from what they had done.
Speaker 1: I guess, really, if you look at the entirety of
Speaker 1: the season, what was so different yesterday allowed them to
Speaker 1: score so so quickly and to score consistently throughout the game. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean there's there's a lot of things you can
Speaker 1: you can start with. First of all, penalties. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's three penalties in the game overall, and that's how
Speaker 1: many usually are on offense. They were able to They
Speaker 1: weren't really behind the chains that much. They did a
Speaker 1: nice job and Beasley got open a lot. You know,
Speaker 1: they they found the mismatches there with Beasley. You know,
Speaker 1: as good as Jacksonville, they have weak spots. And those
Speaker 1: weak spots used to play for Dallas. And if you
Speaker 1: watch Tyler Patman was bad and Dad called him out
Speaker 1: and Barry Church was borderline horrible yesterday. How many times
Speaker 1: did you see Barry Church whiffing on stuff. So you
Speaker 1: obways see the hand clappy they found the mismatches there.
Speaker 1: I mean stay away from Ramsey, which that was pretty
Speaker 1: awesome after the game, by the way, because that guy
Speaker 1: hadn't shut up in two years and he didn't he
Speaker 1: had nothing like what can you say? When you what
Speaker 1: are you going to say? I thought it was hilarious
Speaker 1: because before we got into the game last week, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you you made a comment about Ramsey. How oh you
Speaker 1: know he talks to talk, but then he he still
Speaker 1: will talk if he plays bad and stuff and we'll
Speaker 1: stand up. I was very great. I love guys that
Speaker 1: don't shut up. I love trash talk. I admired even
Speaker 1: more when you back it up after it doesn't go
Speaker 1: your way and yeah, that's a that's a bad look.
Speaker 1: Well that was the theme of the whole day. A
Speaker 1: guy that actually had gotten his ass kicked in the
Speaker 1: last in the last month, but comes to town and
Speaker 1: it's like, oh my god, God showed up, you know,
Speaker 1: and Connor McGregor, Oh yeah, I was like, drop the presses,
Speaker 1: like Connor McGregor's here, you know, and and and he
Speaker 1: created this Oh my god, that was unbelievable. Seeing Jeff,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I might really seeing this Jeff doing that walk.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that up, because that's guy. The
Speaker 1: thing that the thing that I thought made the biggest
Speaker 1: difference switch. This is easier said than done. They obviously
Speaker 1: they attacked like right off the bat. And more important
Speaker 1: than that, I thought they kept the Jags on their
Speaker 1: heels like they were. They were not predictable. Shocker. Uh.
Speaker 1: They what they ran the ball once on their opening possession. Uh.
Speaker 1: And no, I'm sorry they ran the ball twice and Zeke,
Speaker 1: but Zeke only got one carry. The other thing miss direction.
Speaker 1: You have a quarterback who can run, and it confuses
Speaker 1: defenses when you use him that way sometimes. Okay, let
Speaker 1: me throw this this at you though. And I started
Speaker 1: thinking about this last night because I was trying to
Speaker 1: figure out what the differences were, and I talked to
Speaker 1: Brian a little bit about this morning. Some of it
Speaker 1: he kind of saw as well. But when you think
Speaker 1: about it, from the way Jacksonville plays, this is a
Speaker 1: really good defense and I don't think anything that happened
Speaker 1: yesterday changes the fact that they're a really good defense.
Speaker 1: It has a lot of talent, But I think that
Speaker 1: the way that they played defense and the fact that
Speaker 1: they're probably so arrogant about how they played defense could
Speaker 1: have contributed to why the Cowboys had so much success,
Speaker 1: particularly in the first half, because really, if you go
Speaker 1: back and watch that game, by the second half, Cowboys
Speaker 1: offense wasn't moving the ball at will like they were
Speaker 1: in the first half. And there were two significant things.
Speaker 1: Number One, I think that the fact that they thought
Speaker 1: that Tyler Patman could handle in man coverage, could handle
Speaker 1: Cole Beasley, and they were arrogant about the fact that
Speaker 1: they stick with man coverage most of the time and
Speaker 1: they were okay with the idea of him covering him.
Speaker 1: That was a problem, and they acknowledged that by the
Speaker 1: second half when Aja Booyer started and Booya started, Karen
Speaker 1: started covering him in the second half. The other thing
Speaker 1: is the fact if they don't blitz, they only bring
Speaker 1: four guys pretty much the entire game. When you start
Speaker 1: talking misdirection and stuff like that. I think that's factors
Speaker 1: in just as much because we didn't see a lot
Speaker 1: of situations yesterday where if you're singing, sitting an extra
Speaker 1: guy a lot of times when that quarterback tries to
Speaker 1: boot out, there's a guy usually in his face because
Speaker 1: they've got more guys coming than just four. I think
Speaker 1: both of those two things factored into why the Cowboys
Speaker 1: were so successful in the first half and maybe not
Speaker 1: as much in the second half when they started to
Speaker 1: adjust a little bit. What you guess think, I absolutely
Speaker 1: think much like the Cowboys have done in the past,
Speaker 1: I think the Jags came in and said, are eleven.
Speaker 1: Are way better than you're eleven, and we can play
Speaker 1: the way we want to play. We talked about a
Speaker 1: little bit of it. To your point, I don't understand
Speaker 1: how you can look at this, and I'm happy they
Speaker 1: played it this way, but I don't understand how you
Speaker 1: can look at this Dallas receiving corps and not have
Speaker 1: it be part of your game plan that either Ramsey
Speaker 1: or Buoye is gonna follow Beasley wherever he goes, Like wet,
Speaker 1: we can't have him down in the slot with Beasley
Speaker 1: because we need him out here. Hearns who's got eighty
Speaker 1: four yards all year? Like really, that's the hill you
Speaker 1: want to die on? H thank thank thank you, Jaguars,
Speaker 1: Like I appreciate that, um, but they couldn't do it.
Speaker 1: And even more so than that, I think they they
Speaker 1: loaded up and said, you know, we got Telvin Smith
Speaker 1: and Miles Jack and we're gonna stop you from running
Speaker 1: it up the gut. And the Cowboys were like, okay,
Speaker 1: thank you very much. I'm gonna pull this and run
Speaker 1: it right around the left side for seventeen yards. And yeah,
Speaker 1: it looked like it took him some time to adjust
Speaker 1: to it, which it's kind of surprising. And Miles Jack
Speaker 1: to me, I mean as good as they are like
Speaker 1: in pass coverage, I mean, those guys are like big safeties,
Speaker 1: you know. In fact, my Miles Jack was a guy
Speaker 1: that they thought maybe was going to be a safety.
Speaker 1: So when you could run at them, they are very fast,
Speaker 1: but they're not guys that I mean. I saw Rico
Speaker 1: Gathers and Telvin Smith going at it all all game
Speaker 1: like blocking was I thought Rico did a nice job
Speaker 1: on him, so yeah, I mean he's again it had
Speaker 1: another nice nice catch and um, you know it was
Speaker 1: it was just it was a dominated effort. And I
Speaker 1: think it starts with that offensive line. I really do
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys offensive line had had a really nice
Speaker 1: game and Zeke, you know ran the ball hard. I mean,
Speaker 1: it was just they just were one step ahead of
Speaker 1: them all over the place. You mean, when you want,
Speaker 1: when you want a team to do a complete game,
Speaker 1: you want them to run the ball well, receivers, get
Speaker 1: open quarterback, make plays on defense, fly to the ball,
Speaker 1: make turnovers, you know, get pressure, cover your guys, don't
Speaker 1: have penalties on special teams. And it was just probably
Speaker 1: just the most perfect game you could actually play. Yea.
Speaker 1: And credit to the play calling too, you know, the coaches.
Speaker 1: I think they did a really nice job, specially because
Speaker 1: we've seen far too often where certain plays that work,
Speaker 1: they'll just stop doing it, And this time, I mean
Speaker 1: they were able to keep it going and keep sending
Speaker 1: out making those right calls to that would work, especially
Speaker 1: with Dad, you know, running the ball, finding Cole Beasley.
Speaker 1: That's what I've been saying all year long. Why can't
Speaker 1: you just find coal? Which is hard to do when
Speaker 1: he's being covered and stuff. But a lot of times
Speaker 1: we've seeing how he is open and they haven't been
Speaker 1: able to utilize him well enough. And this time obviously
Speaker 1: worth and I think the energy was outstanding the fact
Speaker 1: that you could tell they were having fun on the field.
Speaker 1: That helps a lot. When you're averaging twelve yards per play.
Speaker 1: Football's a lot of fun. That's what Beasley said it
Speaker 1: like five times last night. He was like, this game
Speaker 1: is a lot more fun when you win, and you know,
Speaker 1: when you're part of the everything's clicking. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: the thing. It's it's rare in an NFL season when
Speaker 1: everything is clicking like like it was yesterday. That's fun
Speaker 1: when everything's clicking for your team. But most teams experienced
Speaker 1: it that. At the best, there are two or three
Speaker 1: games in a season where everything's clicking like that. It
Speaker 1: just it just makes me wonder. And all credit to
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, like they played great. They I mean they
Speaker 1: were basically flawless. But even okay, you saw a matchup
Speaker 1: you liked, and clearly they did, like they knew Beasley
Speaker 1: was going to eat on Patman because that said, Beasley
Speaker 1: knew from two day that he was going to have
Speaker 1: a chance to do this. Even still, even if you
Speaker 1: like that matchup, like, is that all it is? That
Speaker 1: you can do this against the best past defense in
Speaker 1: the NFL. But you know, the Houston Texans, who are
Speaker 1: are awful by any objective standard. I mean, twenty seventh
Speaker 1: in the league. Even if they're making a concerted effort,
Speaker 1: you still can't find ways to make it happen. I mean,
Speaker 1: is it really that easy. It's just like, well, the
Speaker 1: matchup was more favorable, right. I do think in today's NFL,
Speaker 1: I think teams are a lot closer than everybody gives
Speaker 1: them credit for, which means that those slight differences is
Speaker 1: where you can sometimes find. And that's why I talked
Speaker 1: earlier about the arrogance of which, yeah, they do it,
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys the same way Gol was getting too,
Speaker 1: that mole of our eleven is better than you're eleven,
Speaker 1: and that arrogance can sometimes lead them to not take
Speaker 1: advantage of other opportunities or try to extend themselves beyond
Speaker 1: just what they think they do best. And I think
Speaker 1: that was clearly, in my opinion, that was clearly the
Speaker 1: Gate yesterday. It's it's and I really I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to take any credit away from Cole Beasley or Dak Prescott.
Speaker 1: They were both great, and I was happy for Cole
Speaker 1: that he kind of got the chance to shut some
Speaker 1: people up. But it's I mean, it's crazy to me that,
Speaker 1: like the Houston Texans can take away Cole Beasley just completely,
Speaker 1: and then like the Jags, the Mighty Jags, it's just
Speaker 1: like they didn't have an answer. Look at his numbers
Speaker 1: first half and second yeah, and it tells you all
Speaker 1: you need to know. Like in the first half, he
Speaker 1: was having his way on that field. By the second half,
Speaker 1: it all kind of screeched to a halt, like the
Speaker 1: offense just wasn't moving a lot, and the turnovers made
Speaker 1: a big difference, which when you get in that kind
Speaker 1: of game, the defense can create some of those turnovers
Speaker 1: for you. If that, and there's a lot more that
Speaker 1: goes into it. They ran the ball well, and I mean,
Speaker 1: da Dak until he proves that he is a more
Speaker 1: consistently good pocket passer, he needs to be carrying the
Speaker 1: ball like that every week. I think man eleven carries
Speaker 1: is a lot, but at least six, if not eight,
Speaker 1: You know that needs to be an element in this offense.
Speaker 1: I think, if you're gonna be balanced and successful. But
Speaker 1: we see how much better this thing looks when Cole
Speaker 1: easily is part of it, and you just, I mean,
Speaker 1: you gotta do more to get him involved, even if
Speaker 1: it's not always going to be that easy. Clearly, it
Speaker 1: just makes so much difference. Let's take our first break.
Speaker 1: When we come back, I do want to talk about
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville I'm sorry. I want to talk about the
Speaker 1: offensive line for the Cowboys, how they performed yesterday, and
Speaker 1: then we'll get into the Cowboys defense. Was that when
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Speaker 1: Slash Football. Back to the Break, Welcome back. It is
Speaker 1: the second second of the Break live for the SWBC
Speaker 1: Mortgage studios. At the start, we're talking about the Cowboys
Speaker 1: big win yesterday, forty to seven. They blasted Jacksonville Jaguars.
Speaker 1: It was their first win like that in a very,
Speaker 1: very long time. We're breaking it down for you guys.
Speaker 1: Let's talk now about this offensive line. I made the
Speaker 1: point last week that I believe that the offensive line
Speaker 1: was part of a big part of the reason why
Speaker 1: this team had not been as successful early in the year. Yesterday,
Speaker 1: I think they did a lot to kind of go
Speaker 1: the opposite way. They were pretty good most of the game.
Speaker 1: I still think they had some areas where it wasn't
Speaker 1: quite the same. I'm still a little bit concerned about
Speaker 1: Tyren Smith we're all just he's not as dominant as
Speaker 1: he once was in my opinion. But all that being said,
Speaker 1: I think they did far more than necessary yesterday to
Speaker 1: get a win. They were, they were pretty dominant. What
Speaker 1: do you guys think? I thought Tyrn Smith had a
Speaker 1: good game. Um, you know, I'm the other guy over there.
Speaker 1: I don't know ninety one. He's a good player. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't even know how to pronounce his name. Jannick
Speaker 1: and Gagway. He's a pro bowler and he plays like one.
Speaker 1: And I mean it was it was a tough battle there.
Speaker 1: But but I mean for the most part, I mean
Speaker 1: that that offensive, that defense up front for Jacksonville. You're
Speaker 1: not gonna face a front better than that. So for
Speaker 1: Connor Klai Campbell was pretty quiet. Most yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: the league. I mean, I I we're doing a top
Speaker 1: ten list of of performers that played in the game.
Speaker 1: What would do every Monday. I don't know what Brian
Speaker 1: and Rob will vote, but I know that that Dave
Speaker 1: and I put um Lyle Collins on there. I thought
Speaker 1: Lyle had a really really nice game, and Connor Williams obviously,
Speaker 1: I mean they did a good job. You seen holding penalties.
Speaker 1: Really was there a holding? Lyle had a block in
Speaker 1: the back which on Fairy Church, which was not necessary.
Speaker 1: The play was pretty much done anyway. But but just
Speaker 1: I thought the offensive line that was as good as
Speaker 1: game as they've played. And I think I don't know
Speaker 1: if they'll face a defensive front seven that's better than that.
Speaker 1: I don't know that one next week we'll get into that.
Speaker 1: I mean the one coming up against the Redskins. That's
Speaker 1: a pretty good defensive front that quietly has become a
Speaker 1: pretty good I haven't time since the Breeze put up
Speaker 1: fifty on them, So I don't I don't know. Maybe
Speaker 1: they're good. I know that, yes, can't put up that
Speaker 1: that kind of firepower. But I'm just saying I watched
Speaker 1: them play against New Orleans and yes, we'll see, Yeah
Speaker 1: they got some players. Well, I'll just say they got
Speaker 1: some players. They will break it. Alabama. I don't think
Speaker 1: Washington's as talented as Jacksonville. No, No, but I don't
Speaker 1: have that pretty good the Texans. I think they're pretty good.
Speaker 1: I think they're pretty good. We'll see, Yeah, we'll see. Um.
Speaker 1: I it's it's felt like Tyron Smith is not bad.
Speaker 1: He's a good player, and he's been way more good
Speaker 1: than bad throughout the season, but maybe he's just not
Speaker 1: the world erasing you just can't beat him left. I mean,
Speaker 1: I really think like from fourteen to sixteen, I don't
Speaker 1: think there was a better left tackle. I include like
Speaker 1: Joe Thomas and that um he was amazing, Like it
Speaker 1: was staggering to watch how easily he just kicked people
Speaker 1: around the field. And no matter how great the opponent
Speaker 1: he was going up against, they still didn't get around him.
Speaker 1: That's the part. And I again, I hope nobody took
Speaker 1: day no and that that was one play where and
Speaker 1: it didn't end actually ended up in a positive play
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. Cowboys completed a pass off of it.
Speaker 1: But Ba would whatever his name is and got twenty
Speaker 1: two career sacks. Guys, I know, I just gotta don't
Speaker 1: have no his name. But anyway, he just went like
Speaker 1: right around Tyron on one play and it was it
Speaker 1: was it was just like wow, I can't believe he
Speaker 1: beat Tyron like that. But again, this is not saying
Speaker 1: that Tyron is a bad player. It's saying I'm not
Speaker 1: used to get beat at all. This is a guy
Speaker 1: that's that great. That is exactly the point I was
Speaker 1: trying to make. And I mean we saw Frank Clark.
Speaker 1: Frank Clark had plenty of success against him. Granted that's
Speaker 1: on the road. Uh. And obviously you know Watt and
Speaker 1: Clowney are a handful for anybody. But that's that's the point.
Speaker 1: Is like, I'm just I'm used to being like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: Tyron's just gonna do this for three hours and it's
Speaker 1: gonna be laughable. And and he might not be that
Speaker 1: guy anymore. That doesn't mean he's not a great left tackle,
Speaker 1: but it is. It's weird trying to kind of adjust
Speaker 1: your expectations verse like this is the best Like me
Speaker 1: and Nick argued as recently his last year, I was like,
Speaker 1: Tyron's the best player on this roster, no doubt about
Speaker 1: it at the end of discussion. For me and I
Speaker 1: certainly I don't feel that way through five six games
Speaker 1: this year. Uh. That's not to say he's not a
Speaker 1: good player. It's just something that I'm adjusting to and
Speaker 1: keeping an eye on this year, right. Um. And that's
Speaker 1: kind of how I feel about the entire offensive line,
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, Like they're obviously capable of dominance.
Speaker 1: I mean, run for two hundred yards against this defense
Speaker 1: and and eat, you know, just chunk yardage, and and
Speaker 1: Dak got sacked three times, but that doesn't tell the story.
Speaker 1: But so that's still really good, but just again maybe
Speaker 1: not on that world beating level that we got used
Speaker 1: to seeing for a few years. I think the big
Speaker 1: picture take out of this is just kind of what
Speaker 1: we had said earlier, is that you know, you you
Speaker 1: you have it out there now of what this team
Speaker 1: can do um and you know that every game is
Speaker 1: going to be different with different challenges. But you know,
Speaker 1: if you try to make two runners out back there
Speaker 1: with Dak and Zeke and kind of if you're gonna
Speaker 1: if they're gonna blitz like that, you got a big,
Speaker 1: strong quarterback that can get away from it and run.
Speaker 1: And you know these some of these eighty two yards,
Speaker 1: some of it was designed, some of it was just
Speaker 1: Dak being a good athlete. So I just think that
Speaker 1: you know, they they are gonna have different challenges every week,
Speaker 1: but this this shows you right here that they can
Speaker 1: put up some big time points, especially at home. We'll
Speaker 1: see what happens on the road, but you know, I'm
Speaker 1: not really I'm not one to say that this is
Speaker 1: even an issue yet people A lot of people are,
Speaker 1: But I don't really think it is versus not yet
Speaker 1: road me too. It's the same way. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: something to be it's something to be aware of. I
Speaker 1: don't know if I necessarily think it's yet that. I
Speaker 1: think only because if Dad doesn't get that fumble against Detroit,
Speaker 1: they probably lose to the Lions at home. They need
Speaker 1: seven more yards for Maha to get a field goal
Speaker 1: on the road. Very one play here and there, and
Speaker 1: then we could have had a different thing. But it's
Speaker 1: not getting lasted on the road, and they're winning big
Speaker 1: at home. I just think it's kind of how things
Speaker 1: are falling a little bit that don't go they don't
Speaker 1: go on the road for a while, because I mean,
Speaker 1: it's account they winn this game in the home. This
Speaker 1: is a home crowd for them. I love Nick. Nick
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, no, that's the way it's gonna be.
Speaker 1: Because I said so, Well, i mean remember that game
Speaker 1: that you went to that they lost in Washington. Remember that? Nope,
Speaker 1: remember that game too? Honestly different. Well, we'll we'll get
Speaker 1: into that later. In the week, just plenty to discuss
Speaker 1: ild I'm I was going to pick them to beat
Speaker 1: the Redskins even if they lost to Jacksonville fifty to nothing,
Speaker 1: like they beat the Redskins. But that's what I think.
Speaker 1: I can't just act like I know that's going to happen.
Speaker 1: Good will change. They really no, Like I'm comfortable like
Speaker 1: I'm picking the Cowboys to beat the Redskins today Wednesday, Friday.
Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't do the past experience just it.
Speaker 1: I mean, they yeah, basically, and I think that matters
Speaker 1: indivisional rivalries. It doesn't matter when you're like, oh, last
Speaker 1: time they played the Texans five years ago, when the
Speaker 1: two teams like that is ridiculous. But these teams know
Speaker 1: each other really well. The main reason to do it,
Speaker 1: it might seguay into what you're about to say, is
Speaker 1: defense is nasty defense, which really good. And that's the
Speaker 1: point that I That's why I made that point at
Speaker 1: the top of the show, is like I don't know
Speaker 1: how this is going to translate to FedEx Field, Like
Speaker 1: I had offense next to no confidence that they can
Speaker 1: do that again. I need to see it again, I
Speaker 1: even again. I mean even when they beat Detroit at home,
Speaker 1: they scored two touchdowns like they had you know, they
Speaker 1: were kicking field goals left and right. I gotta see more.
Speaker 1: But the defense has basically kicked ass. They were pretty
Speaker 1: sloppy in the first half again Carolina first half of
Speaker 1: the season opener, and after that, it's been really impressive
Speaker 1: every single I mean, I mean, I know that this
Speaker 1: team doesn't always make good decisions all the time. I mean,
Speaker 1: no one does. But you talk about a couple decisions
Speaker 1: that have been questioned a lot around here. April drafting
Speaker 1: Laton vander esh in first round. Okay, so far he
Speaker 1: looks like a really damn good player, cutting Dan Bailey,
Speaker 1: and getting Brett Maher. I mean, there were people in
Speaker 1: this room that didn't know if that was such a
Speaker 1: good idea. Yeah, but hold on, and I want to
Speaker 1: speak for you guys a little bit. Please don't honestly
Speaker 1: don't think that you guys were against the move. I
Speaker 1: think you guys were against how it went down. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I don't think anybody I don't think there were
Speaker 1: a lot of people that said, oh my god, you
Speaker 1: cannot do this, because there's no way Brett Maher is
Speaker 1: going to be better than Dan Bailey. I just think
Speaker 1: people were upset that it went down the way that
Speaker 1: it did. You were upset, particularly that it was no
Speaker 1: competition in your opinion. Yeah, but either way, either way
Speaker 1: we had They thought that Bailey was going to struggle,
Speaker 1: and they didn't want three million dollars on the hook
Speaker 1: if he did, and so they thought this guy also could.
Speaker 1: It was a machine like and even so far as
Speaker 1: been a rest in the league. Right now, will you
Speaker 1: were telling me? For he's got the best percentage among
Speaker 1: kickers who have attempted as many field goals two miss
Speaker 1: one first kick. You know, it sounds like Dan Bailey,
Speaker 1: doesn't it. Kansas City, Kansas City's Guy Butcker and Graham
Speaker 1: Gano and Carolina and Matt Bryant and Atlanta are all
Speaker 1: still perfect, but they haven't they haven't kicked as nearly
Speaker 1: as many field goals. And he's also three or three
Speaker 1: from fifty plus, which that that puts him in very
Speaker 1: nice company. Um. I agree. I appreciate you saying that,
Speaker 1: Like I never had a problem with him being the kicker.
Speaker 1: I had a problem with the way they did it.
Speaker 1: Even still, if I'd known how he'd looked through six weeks,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have been I would be like, whatever, sorry, Daniel,
Speaker 1: when you got you gotta go, I mean, and and
Speaker 1: looking at what Dan has done too, I think it
Speaker 1: kind of just reaffirmed the fact that what they believed,
Speaker 1: which is they didn't think he was quite right right,
Speaker 1: and what he's done so far in Minnesota suggests he's
Speaker 1: not quite right. And going back to the linebacker thing,
Speaker 1: it started before that they had they let go of
Speaker 1: a really good player and Anthony Hitchens, And yeah, they
Speaker 1: would have had to pay the money for that, but
Speaker 1: you know, they probably knew they were gonna cut DEAs anyway,
Speaker 1: so they had it. But you know, drafting Vanderesh and
Speaker 1: now I think they've got probably two of the best
Speaker 1: inside backers in the league. It's really you know, this
Speaker 1: is something that I've thought a lot about over the years,
Speaker 1: just with how the game has changed. But like a
Speaker 1: lot like running back, like you could at least try
Speaker 1: to make an argument that linebacker is becoming obsolete, at
Speaker 1: least the way that you think of linebacker play. But
Speaker 1: then you see what these two guys can do, Like
Speaker 1: if you have the right linebackers like super freaks, like
Speaker 1: Laton Vanderesh and Jalen Smith who can who were fast
Speaker 1: enough to do things in coverage and physical enough to
Speaker 1: handle the run. It makes a difference. And I mean
Speaker 1: we see that with Jacksonville too, That's part of what
Speaker 1: makes their defense so good. But if you can get
Speaker 1: your hands on those guys, you can do a lot
Speaker 1: of fun stuff. And I like that's easily one of
Speaker 1: the top two or three storylines of the season, is
Speaker 1: how it's good those two look. We will talk about
Speaker 1: it later in the week, maybe tomorrow, about what you
Speaker 1: do with shan Lee when he comes back and how
Speaker 1: he integrates back into that. But you look at how
Speaker 1: these two guys have performed since he's been out. I
Speaker 1: think it's been remarkable. It's a stark contrast to what
Speaker 1: we've seen in past years when when you lose Shawn
Speaker 1: Lee and the defense just goes to hell. And it
Speaker 1: has not been that this this year. This last game,
Speaker 1: Jalen had nine tackles and a fumble recovery and Layton
Speaker 1: had ten tackles and a pass defense. And by the way,
Speaker 1: that pass defense was as good a pass coverage as
Speaker 1: you'd see from a defensive back. It looked like Byron Jones. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was classically good. Our friend of ours, Jeff Sullivan,
Speaker 1: tweeted this morning, I didn't realize this. Layton leads the
Speaker 1: team with fifty one tackles, sixth in the league, and
Speaker 1: since the NFL started tracking tackles, a rookie has never
Speaker 1: led the Cowboys. Yep. So that just gives you an
Speaker 1: idea of I mean, he'd see he's for they are balling,
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be interesting to see. I don't think
Speaker 1: that you can city the one of them down. So
Speaker 1: at the best case scenario for Sean, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a rotation, I would think, And that's a great rotation
Speaker 1: to have when you got three guys that caliber being
Speaker 1: able to play and maybe just maybe less less reps
Speaker 1: for Shan means he can stay a little more healthy
Speaker 1: and you can keep him around. Sean would be okay
Speaker 1: with that. Yeah, Honestly, I don't think Sean's the same
Speaker 1: as like what Jason was. What Jason was like literally
Speaker 1: they maybe try to send somebody on the field, and
Speaker 1: Jason's like, get off the field. Yeah, I don't think
Speaker 1: Sean's that guy. I really think Jason would have ever
Speaker 1: allowed the training camp thing to happen like that where
Speaker 1: you miss so much in training camp and hold back.
Speaker 1: I mean, there are ways to do this. This isn't
Speaker 1: like tight end. This definitely isn't like quarterback. There's ways
Speaker 1: to you know, Dave, you always say three guys to
Speaker 1: play two, you've got Nickels situations, there are there are
Speaker 1: spots to do that and rotate these guys in. And
Speaker 1: let's not forget I mean it's a physical position for
Speaker 1: those two young guys as well. They are very physical players.
Speaker 1: I mean I know Layton. I saw three or four
Speaker 1: times he was something's wrong with his hand or some issue.
Speaker 1: He kept shaking it after every play. He kept making tackles,
Speaker 1: but he's got some kind of issue there. So you know,
Speaker 1: I think it'll be good on all of them to
Speaker 1: kind of rotate in there. There were also moments yesterday
Speaker 1: when Jacksonville would go three wide and the Cowboys stayed
Speaker 1: in their base defense. So that's also something to consider
Speaker 1: because they got two linebackers or really three in this
Speaker 1: instance that they think cover really well. Sometimes they can
Speaker 1: stay in base and deep offenses can't dictate to them.
Speaker 1: You gotta go to Nickel when you get to three wide.
Speaker 1: They can actually keep their base defense on the field
Speaker 1: and feel like they can probably handle it pretty well.
Speaker 1: All right, let's go ahead and take our final break.
Speaker 1: When we come back, we do want to dive in
Speaker 1: a little bit more with defense and talk about some
Speaker 1: of the things they were able to do yesterday. Well
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Speaker 1: Let's get back into a Cowboys defense yesterday. Listen to
Speaker 1: some of these numbers they were. They only gave up
Speaker 1: two hundred four total net yards only three of twelve possessions.
Speaker 1: They allowed the Jacksonville offense past midfield. Think about that,
Speaker 1: twelve times they had the ball, only three times they
Speaker 1: even got past mid feel they only allowed first downs
Speaker 1: on nine I'm sorry, they allowed one or a few
Speaker 1: or first downs on only nine of the twelve possessions.
Speaker 1: And there was only one possession in the entire game
Speaker 1: of the twelve possessions they had or the Cowboys allowed
Speaker 1: them to have two first downs. Think about that, not touchdowns,
Speaker 1: not field goals, like two first downs. That's what the
Speaker 1: Cowboys allowed only on one of twelve possessions. Dominating, absolutely
Speaker 1: dominating performance by the defense. I'll say it again, like
Speaker 1: that's that. If the Cowboys are going to turn this
Speaker 1: thing around, they obviously need that. Well turnaround sounds harsh
Speaker 1: since they're three and three now, but if they're going
Speaker 1: to play better more consistently, their offense obviously has to
Speaker 1: keep doing that. But the defense being what it is
Speaker 1: is what really gives me the most confidence. Defenses travel,
Speaker 1: like people like to say, and they have been consistent
Speaker 1: over six weeks. They have not let a team score
Speaker 1: more than twenty four points six weeks into the season. Yep,
Speaker 1: that's pretty impressive. There are a few guys I want
Speaker 1: to point out individually. We talked about David Irving a
Speaker 1: little bit. He returned yesterday, had two tackles, one tackle,
Speaker 1: four loss when QB hit. How much did he play
Speaker 1: and what was your assessment of his play overall in
Speaker 1: those snaps he played twenty two snaps. He well, obviously
Speaker 1: much more that you would probably expect for a guy
Speaker 1: to have. Yeah, actually I asked him. I asked him
Speaker 1: about that after the game and he was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: they told me ten to fifteen, but I knew that
Speaker 1: was a lie. Which. Yeah, he showed a lot, he
Speaker 1: had the juice. Um Amber brought it up, but it
Speaker 1: seemed like he tapered off. You know, I'm sure he
Speaker 1: was amped. I'm sure he was excited. He you know,
Speaker 1: we were talking about it before the show. He might
Speaker 1: have blocked a punt if he hadn't gotten held. I
Speaker 1: think it was their first punt of the game. He
Speaker 1: broke right through the line, so I'm sure he kind
Speaker 1: of got worn down. He hadn't played football in a year.
Speaker 1: But if that's your first impression after a year off,
Speaker 1: I'm more than happy with it. Yeah, yep. Let's talk
Speaker 1: about about Randy Gregory. Yesterday he had a sack, three tackles,
Speaker 1: two tackles for loss. That was really the first game
Speaker 1: in my opinion, that he kind of showed up in
Speaker 1: a way that was tangent. What did you guys think
Speaker 1: and what do you think that maybe means for the
Speaker 1: future here? Well, I mean, you're right, he hasn't been
Speaker 1: that consistent. Um he got a chance to play a
Speaker 1: little bit more with Um DeMarcus Lawrence kind of limited
Speaker 1: with it with an injury, So you know, I thought
Speaker 1: I thought he was really active. That's all that you're
Speaker 1: really looking to do there, Especially in the run game.
Speaker 1: You think he's gonna get around the edge and create
Speaker 1: some pass rush. But I thought he did a decent
Speaker 1: job in the run game. Running laterally, I thought he
Speaker 1: did a nice job. Cheeto didn't play much that Cheeto
Speaker 1: did not play, did not play at all. No, Okay,
Speaker 1: but that being said, yeah, I mentioned Malie Collins too. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get to him. I'm jumping around. Well, you're
Speaker 1: in the lines. It might as well just I'm jumping
Speaker 1: around ghetting everybody. Okay, but but talk to me about
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis. Talk to me about Anthony Brown. How they performed,
Speaker 1: I guess without Cheeto being in the lineup. I talked
Speaker 1: to Jordan last night too. I said, is it fair
Speaker 1: to say that this has been a frustrating month for
Speaker 1: you leading up to this? And uh, you know, he
Speaker 1: did his best to downplay it, and you know, he said,
Speaker 1: he said, Chris Rahshard calls him the relief pitcher, is like,
Speaker 1: we know you can play, but we need you in
Speaker 1: case when these guys go down. And that's what happened.
Speaker 1: Chido hasn't been able to go in the last six
Speaker 1: or so quarters, and I thought, he's he's played great
Speaker 1: and I'm yeah, he recovered the fumble, but he was
Speaker 1: making tackles in space and had great coverage. Absolutely got
Speaker 1: them off the field on a drive that otherwise would
Speaker 1: have kept going. So m he was. He was pretty
Speaker 1: shaky in the preseason and obvious, you know, had the
Speaker 1: bad play against Detroit, but the way he has rebounded
Speaker 1: from that is very very impressive. Talk about Malik Collins
Speaker 1: amber One tell us how how Malik played yesterday. I
Speaker 1: think they did really good. Uh, taking into consideration the
Speaker 1: time that he's been out and coming off from an injury.
Speaker 1: He's had something wrapped around his knee since we got
Speaker 1: here pretty much, I think I've seen him every day
Speaker 1: with a thing wrapped around there. So it was really
Speaker 1: nice to see him get his first attack and helping
Speaker 1: the line. I think when you put all those guys together,
Speaker 1: even including David Irving back in there, you could really
Speaker 1: see the difference that makes on the line. As well
Speaker 1: as Randy Gregory. I think that had a lot to
Speaker 1: do with his performance last night and how that affects
Speaker 1: everyone on the line. It creates a different kind of
Speaker 1: energy and he gets everyone going. And obviously you can't
Speaker 1: focus as far as their offensive line. You can't put
Speaker 1: all your focus on one person when you have so
Speaker 1: many great guys there. That's going to create opportunities and
Speaker 1: holes for some of your guys to break in and
Speaker 1: get to the quarterback. Yeah, Jeff, he got the first
Speaker 1: interception of the season for the Cowboys, and it was
Speaker 1: a pretty I'm sorry season Yeah, yes, the first yesterday,
Speaker 1: but the second for the season second. Sorry, but but
Speaker 1: it was a I think a needed thing that we
Speaker 1: needed to see them get some interceptions. It was a
Speaker 1: good play by Byron Jones to get to get the ball.
Speaker 1: I had this conversation last night with another be writer,
Speaker 1: like live live in the moment, You're like, what a
Speaker 1: play by Byron Jones, And I think it was late
Speaker 1: and vander esh Or it was a linebacker, Like, what
Speaker 1: a play by Byron Jones to back that up for Heath.
Speaker 1: Then you look at it again and you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: way to go, Heath, You're in the right spot. And
Speaker 1: by the third time I watched it, I was like,
Speaker 1: cash the ball, Byron, Come on, man, that should have
Speaker 1: been yours. Which no, I mean, great play, Heath. It
Speaker 1: probably doesn't get returned if Byron picks it off, but
Speaker 1: like cat catch the ball. I mean, that's all good,
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, is on to
Speaker 1: somebody intercepted it? Really don't care. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean that's just right, But usually don't have three
Speaker 1: guys around the ball. So what if it's just one
Speaker 1: on one you turn around and it hits you in
Speaker 1: the face and goes down to the ground. I mean,
Speaker 1: then it's now it's a come on, man, it's it is.
Speaker 1: It's a nitpick. Especially, I mean Jeff had a fifty
Speaker 1: yard return. It was great and like I said, it
Speaker 1: put him in better position. But Byron probably should have
Speaker 1: had it. And that's also what you expect from your
Speaker 1: safeties is being able to be in the right place
Speaker 1: at the right time. Is about most of the interceptions
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Most of them happened because there's a
Speaker 1: tip pass and somebody's in the right spot. Most of
Speaker 1: the time, it's a say it's not forget that Layton
Speaker 1: Vanderish was also down the field, like his hands up.
Speaker 1: And I mean people think people think I'm kidding when
Speaker 1: I call Jeff Heath the goat, and I don't know
Speaker 1: how to explain it, but like that is a that
Speaker 1: is a talent, and I don't know how to explain it.
Speaker 1: But like he's always where he needs to be when
Speaker 1: that happens, he's just one step away from being great.
Speaker 1: I feel that he he's always close to being at
Speaker 1: the right place. At the right time. And again when
Speaker 1: you come when you talk about interceptions and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: usually it's Jeff Heath making those plays. It's always Jeff Keith.
Speaker 1: So I don't know, but he's always right there. Borderline,
Speaker 1: he's he was pissed that Woods got on the board first.
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm not giving up my crown as reigning
Speaker 1: interception king just yet. Like people can laugh all they want.
Speaker 1: He's always there when when when that opportunity arises. We'll
Speaker 1: take some calls to you, guys, give us a call.
Speaker 1: Numbers eight eight eight eight five five two two nine seven.
Speaker 1: Again it is eight eight eight eight five five two
Speaker 1: two nine seven. I will take this one. Comment from Twitter,
Speaker 1: Antoine Ferris says they were up thirty something points by
Speaker 1: mid third. They clearly took their foot off the pedal
Speaker 1: and pressed cruise control. The Jacks didn't stop them. I
Speaker 1: feel like the Dallas media today is throwing cold blanket
Speaker 1: on this win. I'll ask you, guys, do you think
Speaker 1: that in the second half, or do you make much
Speaker 1: of the second half that the Cowboys weren't scoring as
Speaker 1: easily or as frequently, or do you think it was
Speaker 1: just one of those situations where you kind of play
Speaker 1: the game that's given to you. Get to the second half,
Speaker 1: you're up by a lot, you just play that game.
Speaker 1: You play a little more conservative, Maybee maybe in order
Speaker 1: to ensure that you don't mean give them the opportunities.
Speaker 1: They managed the game perfectly. I had a couple of
Speaker 1: people on Twitter say that to me that it helps
Speaker 1: when you don't have to manage the game. That's not
Speaker 1: true at all. I think Garrett managed the game perfectly.
Speaker 1: They only say that though in a loss. But the
Speaker 1: only way you're going to lose that game is if
Speaker 1: you let Jacksonville's defense make a lot of plays. It's
Speaker 1: not about being conservative, it's about being smart. But Lake
Speaker 1: Bortles is not going to drive the ball down the
Speaker 1: field consistently and get you back in the game. So
Speaker 1: don't do anything stupid. Just keep running the ball, being
Speaker 1: a little bit exotic at times, make field goals, and
Speaker 1: keep adding on to the lead. I mean, I heard
Speaker 1: the same thing they let their foot off the gas.
Speaker 1: If you can outscore someone sixteen to seven in the
Speaker 1: second half and that's that's with your foot off the gas,
Speaker 1: that's pretty impressive. It just shows how much you were
Speaker 1: speeding in the first half. Yeah, perfect win. Who's throwing
Speaker 1: a cold, wet blanket on the win? Like, I haven't
Speaker 1: heard that anywhere? I think, if anything, what does that mean?
Speaker 1: Like people aren't giving the Cowboys enough credit? Like you
Speaker 1: throw a wet blanket on a fire to put it out,
Speaker 1: helping you out with this? You know idioms if you will, um.
Speaker 1: I If anything, I think people are just confused. I mean,
Speaker 1: like you know, I mean like the way you say that,
Speaker 1: confused to go from twenty sixth in total offense and
Speaker 1: really like not looking great in any game you've played,
Speaker 1: even your smashing the best defense. I think people are confused.
Speaker 1: But I haven't seen anybody downplaying it. And yeah, like
Speaker 1: get out of here with that, taking your foot off
Speaker 1: that you won forty to seven in the NFL. This
Speaker 1: ain't college where you know ls you played Southeastern and
Speaker 1: you wish the backups had played a little better after halftime,
Speaker 1: Like this is pro football. The starters are gonna play
Speaker 1: until the very end of the game. Dak didn't come
Speaker 1: out until there were less than five minutes left in
Speaker 1: a thirty three point win. I yeah, I thought, I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously you're not going to be going for the throat
Speaker 1: the same way when you've got a twenty four point
Speaker 1: lead in the second half. But they scored two touchdowns,
Speaker 1: they forced takeaways, and then the best part, you know
Speaker 1: it kind of it looked a little dicey the third quarter.
Speaker 1: There what Jacksonville had their best drive of the day.
Speaker 1: They hit DD Westbrook on play where you know they
Speaker 1: got the Cowboys out of it. You know, they were
Speaker 1: in a bad coverage for that call. And then the
Speaker 1: Cowboys buckled down, went back, answered with a fuel goal,
Speaker 1: picked off Bortals on the next Jacksonville possession, and had
Speaker 1: a thirty to seven lead five minutes after the fact. Like,
Speaker 1: I don't buy that at all. I thought they played
Speaker 1: great all the way through. I will say this, I
Speaker 1: think that maybe what he's referring to when he says
Speaker 1: that is that I don't know that there's anybody that's
Speaker 1: committed to the fact that this means that the Cowboys
Speaker 1: offense has found its rhythm and they're ready to roll.
Speaker 1: I think there's still some caution and some optimism. I
Speaker 1: am cautiously optimistic that they will find that they will
Speaker 1: be better as we keep going, But I do think
Speaker 1: there were some things in this game that were unique
Speaker 1: to this game that they may not see when they
Speaker 1: get to Washington. So I'll be interested to see how
Speaker 1: well the offense plays against the new challenges. Nick, you said, Ali,
Speaker 1: every game's gonna have as different challenges. I think the
Speaker 1: arrogance of this defense was that they were willing to
Speaker 1: try what wasn't working, and they stuck with it so
Speaker 1: long that the Cowboys just got out to such an
Speaker 1: insurmountable lead that they really weren't gonna They don't have
Speaker 1: the offense that's going to come back from something like that.
Speaker 1: I don't know that you're going to run into that
Speaker 1: with the next defense that you again, that's it's still
Speaker 1: crazy to me that, um, you know, I mean we've
Speaker 1: been on this show, Nick's, we've all said it, like
Speaker 1: the I mean, the blueprint for stopping this team is
Speaker 1: bracketing Cole Beasley and stuff in the box to stop
Speaker 1: the run, right, and the Jags have a better cornerback
Speaker 1: duo than anybody in the NFL. And it's just if
Speaker 1: really that's all it is. They're so arrogant that they're like,
Speaker 1: our fifth guy can handle it. Like then they're stupid.
Speaker 1: I mean, well, they did for the first half. They
Speaker 1: were like Patman's good, He's all right, keep it going,
Speaker 1: let's go whatever. You know, we talked about talking about
Speaker 1: these five plays. We don't have to get to all
Speaker 1: of them, but I do think the number one, the
Speaker 1: one that I put on here was the early past
Speaker 1: the gallop. I think changed a lot of things because
Speaker 1: number one, it kind of put them in a mindset
Speaker 1: of you know what, yeah, we can move the ball,
Speaker 1: we can make some plays here. And also it opens
Speaker 1: things up for bees when you start doing things like that,
Speaker 1: when you're like, at least you have it in there
Speaker 1: to know that gallup can go make a play or
Speaker 1: somebody down the field. I thought that was a key
Speaker 1: play for confidence for the fans, for everybody to kind
Speaker 1: of get in the game and wonderings this team ever
Speaker 1: gonna score. Yeah, yeah, they're gonna they're gonna drive the ball,
Speaker 1: and then they're not afraid. And I thought that passed
Speaker 1: right out there really set the tone for a lot
Speaker 1: of things that happened the rest of the game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know the interesting part yesterday I thought there
Speaker 1: was some really really and that actually they're showing it
Speaker 1: right now for you guys that are watching that that
Speaker 1: play to Gallop book that should have been a touchdown.
Speaker 1: It was amazing that he hung in the hairs down right,
Speaker 1: but imagine how long that meant. He just hung in
Speaker 1: the air for an extra for an extra moment where
Speaker 1: your foot should come down. This is what said, NA,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay up on him though, right, No, it's
Speaker 1: absolutely on him. All I'm saying, though is All I'm
Speaker 1: saying though, is And I think that was an example
Speaker 1: of it. There was some moments yesterday when Dak made
Speaker 1: some really great throws. I mean some really great throws,
Speaker 1: and I talk about it a lot on this show
Speaker 1: that I'm not seeing enough of those, so I would
Speaker 1: give him credit. Yesterday he made some really really great
Speaker 1: throws that a NFL quarterback has to be able to
Speaker 1: make if you're going to be success. He did. His
Speaker 1: receivers also made some plays. I mean, obviously Gallup didn't
Speaker 1: catch that, but that was an amazing effort. Beasley. I
Speaker 1: don't think it was a touchdown. I think it was
Speaker 1: a third down conversion, but like the ball was above
Speaker 1: him and behind him and he just went up and
Speaker 1: got it. Yeah, you got it. That's a part of
Speaker 1: the game. People. Everything's not gonna be perfect, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: And it wasn't even a completion, but Alan Hearns did
Speaker 1: a great job forcing Jalen Ramsey out of bounds on
Speaker 1: that would be pick like you. I mean, the stat
Speaker 1: line doesn't reflect it because Beasley was the only receiver
Speaker 1: that really had a day. But I thought they played
Speaker 1: as well as they have all year. I agree, Nick,
Speaker 1: you got into it. Let's get to some of those
Speaker 1: other plays. The five plays that people might miss that
Speaker 1: they should not miss. That that passed the gallop was
Speaker 1: the one that started in the first quarter. Going back
Speaker 1: into the first quarter, Cowboys led three nothing. Jacksonville punted
Speaker 1: from their own twenty eight holding penalty because David Irving
Speaker 1: is probably gonna block it. It was a bad punt,
Speaker 1: just thirty yards. Then I don't I hate this rule,
Speaker 1: but you can add the ten yards to the punt.
Speaker 1: I think you should get one one or the other.
Speaker 1: But whatever, the Cowboys punted. The Jacksonville punting from the
Speaker 1: twenty eight, they ended up starting at the forty eight,
Speaker 1: so just a twenty yard net. Cowboys took that and
Speaker 1: went and scored. I thought that that holding punt holding
Speaker 1: on the punt with a with a really you know,
Speaker 1: short punt. That was that gave the Cowboys a good
Speaker 1: position there. Um Dax double dribble for a first down.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 1: The ball doesn't just bounce up to you, but it
Speaker 1: did for a time twice. That was it was about
Speaker 1: to be a five yard loss. He gets seven yards
Speaker 1: for a first down. They go and get a touchdown
Speaker 1: on that. Later in the second quarter. This this was
Speaker 1: a huge play. Seventeen to nothing. They're about to punt
Speaker 1: twelve minut on the field for the jack for the Jaguars.
Speaker 1: I forgot about fourth. That was fourth and one. Enormous
Speaker 1: Cowboys get that five yards to go down. Score beasily
Speaker 1: twenty four to nothing at the half. I mean that
Speaker 1: that right there was a play of the game. And
Speaker 1: then after Jacksonville score twenty four seven, you're kind of thinking,
Speaker 1: all right, they're gonna go three and out the crowd,
Speaker 1: you know, the Jaguar was about to get into this.
Speaker 1: Dak goes for twenty eight yards on that scramble. That
Speaker 1: changed everything. They went down and kicked a field goal. Um.
Speaker 1: I did watch the game last night, and I remember
Speaker 1: that Dede Westbrook had a dropped pass that Bordles was
Speaker 1: kind of flipped it out there. Yeah, and that was
Speaker 1: have been a first down. He dropped the first possession
Speaker 1: of the game. It was the second quarter. Okay, it
Speaker 1: was second quarter, but still it was like seventeen nothing.
Speaker 1: They needed to do something there, So that that was
Speaker 1: kind of big. But those six plays right there were ones.
Speaker 1: I thought it kind of changed things. Hard to find
Speaker 1: him when you're forty to seven. I really love that.
Speaker 1: Obviously there was an element of designed run in the
Speaker 1: game plan for Dak, but I love that he did both.
Speaker 1: And I mean, it just it needs again, it needs
Speaker 1: to be I think. I mean that his career high
Speaker 1: before this game was only forty five, which is surprising.
Speaker 1: Then what did it just the other day? I mean
Speaker 1: went against the Giants. Yeah, it was three weeks ago,
Speaker 1: four weeks ago. Um, so who who has the record
Speaker 1: for rushing yards? And I mean, I know it was
Speaker 1: second was still ninety or nine to something like that.
Speaker 1: I just you know, and he doesn't mean he's amazing
Speaker 1: for back in that day. For him to still hold
Speaker 1: that record, it's pretty pretty interesting. He he doesn't need
Speaker 1: eighty two, but you know, if he has thirty five,
Speaker 1: that's a couple key first downs and maybe a touchdown,
Speaker 1: and it keeps defenses guessing. I just I think it
Speaker 1: needs to be part of what they do weekly. Even
Speaker 1: if defense is key on it, they still need to
Speaker 1: try to get it to, you know, get it started.
Speaker 1: One thing that hasn't really been talked about and is
Speaker 1: the injury to Tavon Austin. He left the game with
Speaker 1: the joint injury. I don't know it because of was
Speaker 1: it because of score or what? Did he have to
Speaker 1: leave the game? He looked, I mean doesn't look They
Speaker 1: haven't given us much of an update. Jason Garrett didn't
Speaker 1: have a lot to say about it. Surprised to be place.
Speaker 1: He wasn't injury, he was. He was on the ground
Speaker 1: for a while, like he I mean, he wasn't. He didn't.
Speaker 1: He didn't look like he was in a good way
Speaker 1: and he went to the locker room right after. And
Speaker 1: for a guy who's that's that's that's what he does. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would guess it might be Bryce Butler time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that bye week coming up a help, Yeah, it helps.
Speaker 1: And it's kind of also just it's really easy to
Speaker 1: say all right, let's justify this week, which I know
Speaker 1: we touched on this a minute ago, but were people
Speaker 1: were talking about that on Twitter last night and I agree, um,
Speaker 1: bye week coming up. I know he was just out here,
Speaker 1: but like, I'm not in a huge hurry to put
Speaker 1: Sean Lee on the field if I don't have to,
Speaker 1: and I don't know, you don't have to like the
Speaker 1: way these guys are playing, you really feel like you
Speaker 1: could you could give him another week to get right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's not. These guys aren't track guys like like Tavon Austin,
Speaker 1: but you know, the Jets sweep. I mean you can
Speaker 1: do things with guys. I mean Michael Gallup can run that.
Speaker 1: I mean there are guys that can run that type
Speaker 1: of play. I don't think it has to be just
Speaker 1: out of the play the playbook. I don't know if
Speaker 1: I want Bryce doing it, but I mean somebody like
Speaker 1: that continues to work damn near every time they pull
Speaker 1: it out, even though they don't like to. Yep, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they I mean they've they've done it with lesser
Speaker 1: guys in the past, so I think you can get
Speaker 1: away with that. I mean, there's a way to diference
Speaker 1: used to run it. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. There's
Speaker 1: a way to do it. And the thing about it
Speaker 1: is it just keeps it just keeps the defense off balance.
Speaker 1: So even if you pick up five six yards. I
Speaker 1: saw the Patriots last night in their game, they'd use Edelman.
Speaker 1: I think he got six yards on it, like he's
Speaker 1: not a speedster. But the point is it just keeps
Speaker 1: the defense. Bounce's one extra thing that yeah, I agree with. Yeah,
Speaker 1: fast guy and get him around the edge. The blueprint
Speaker 1: is going to be load up and stop Zeke from
Speaker 1: here into eternity. So anything I can do to create
Speaker 1: even a smidgeon of misdirection and second guessing, I want
Speaker 1: to do it. Yeah. And I will say this too, Nick,
Speaker 1: I want to go back to that play that you
Speaker 1: were talking about, with that punt, without that that penalty,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys give the ball back, that would have been
Speaker 1: the first time in that game. It's weird to believe,
Speaker 1: but that would have been the first time in that
Speaker 1: game the Jacksonville defense would have stopped the Cowboys from
Speaker 1: scoring on a drive. Instead, the Cowboys going to a
Speaker 1: sixteen play drive that took up seven minutes and fourteen
Speaker 1: seconds and ended in a touchdown that gave them the
Speaker 1: three touchdowns and a field goal for the entire for
Speaker 1: all four possessions that they had there in the first half,
Speaker 1: that was, in my opinion, that was may have been
Speaker 1: the play of the game that nobody remembers. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you know what I've been doing this twenty years that
Speaker 1: I haven't had assistant coach that I like as much
Speaker 1: as Jod Camillis. He's my favorite assistant coach of all time.
Speaker 1: And you know, it was a tough day for him
Speaker 1: for the Jaguars. He's over there in Jacksonville, and you know,
Speaker 1: to have the twelve men on the field, and then
Speaker 1: I also have that holding penalty that changed things. I
Speaker 1: mean that that was a rough day for them, and
Speaker 1: the Cowboys did not have any penalties on special teams.
Speaker 1: There's another play too. He tried to a little trick
Speaker 1: play reverse verse and they blew that up. Not only that,
Speaker 1: but but the guy got hurt, the returner, Mickens, Yeah,
Speaker 1: got hurt. And then we'll chart. I mean, he didn't
Speaker 1: get hurt on that play, but got hurt later. The
Speaker 1: guy good Goodwin CJ. Good Yes, they brought him in
Speaker 1: because he's a good gunners and he blew up the
Speaker 1: freaking you know, that could have been a big return
Speaker 1: if he hadn't blown it up. So funny how that works.
Speaker 1: We've talked about pretty much everybody on this team. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to think of I was just thinking of, speaking
Speaker 1: of penalties. I'm like, man, it is really crazy how
Speaker 1: literally everything was working for the Cowboys, the offense, Dak,
Speaker 1: the running game, the receivers, the offensive line, the defense,
Speaker 1: and the penalties, which we know that the Cowboys offense
Speaker 1: have made their fair amount of penalties, which have definitely
Speaker 1: affected the game in the worst side of things for them,
Speaker 1: Especially when you you're facing a defensive line like this,
Speaker 1: you just expect somebody to get called for holding. You
Speaker 1: expect that to happen, holding, false start, like all those
Speaker 1: things factory in when you're playing a defense that's that good.
Speaker 1: Typically it's funny. I mean, we've talked. We talked about
Speaker 1: it on the show, we've talked about it off the air,
Speaker 1: just like you know, I mean, Nick, how many times
Speaker 1: has he brought up eight and eight, Like, well, this
Speaker 1: is how you get to eight and eight? And I
Speaker 1: don't I think ninety I'm sure you know there's some
Speaker 1: guy out there who picked forty four to seventeen, like
Speaker 1: he knew this was coming. I want to meet that guy.
Speaker 1: I know. I haven't heard that he knew all along. Jerry.
Speaker 1: He's his office up there, and I don't think even
Speaker 1: in his I don't think Jerry saw that coming. But
Speaker 1: so I'm sitting there. You know, if they got out
Speaker 1: like a twenty four to twenty win and the offense
Speaker 1: pretty much looks the same, like, I think, you probably
Speaker 1: get a whole lot of sarcastic applause, like a cool
Speaker 1: and that's that's how you get to eight and eight.
Speaker 1: But like, if they can do this to that defense,
Speaker 1: it at least gives you cause for optimism that it
Speaker 1: really could be a turning point, which I can't believe.
Speaker 1: I'm saying that because I really I had my mind
Speaker 1: pretty firmly made up about what this team was until
Speaker 1: yesterday at about five o'clock. I think Sunday Sunday's game
Speaker 1: in Washington is really going to be the turning point
Speaker 1: of the entire season. One way or another. You want
Speaker 1: to stay on the eight and eight train, you go
Speaker 1: lose that game because then you got a week off
Speaker 1: and Tennessee comes in and I think you'll win that
Speaker 1: game on Honey Night and you'll be at four and
Speaker 1: four at the break and all that good stuff. But
Speaker 1: you want to get off of that train and actually,
Speaker 1: you know, be a team that's gonna compete for the
Speaker 1: division and all that. You got to go to Washington win,
Speaker 1: you'd be the I think they would be the only team.
Speaker 1: They would be the only team with two wins in
Speaker 1: the division if they can do that, right, and you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know one would have more of the victories
Speaker 1: than them at four, which quite frankly, that's the most
Speaker 1: important thing in a division like this that's so close
Speaker 1: to me, and it doesn't look like any of the
Speaker 1: teams are running away to the point where wildcard's going
Speaker 1: to really be an option. So you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: win this division. That means that division games become the
Speaker 1: most important games, not that they're not most seasons, but
Speaker 1: this season especially, it's going to be extremely important. All
Speaker 1: credit to them. No, no wet blanket here, like this
Speaker 1: was a resounding but yeah, but I gotta see it again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know what it means for the future. You
Speaker 1: just know yesterday they were dominant, as dominant as we've
Speaker 1: seen in a long time. Ye all right, we appreciate
Speaker 1: you guys joined us. We're back tomorrow. We'll look to
Speaker 1: take a big picture look at this team, how they
Speaker 1: look around the NFL, what's happening in the NFC East.
Speaker 1: Till then, for Nick Even, Dave helm At, Amber Garcia,
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